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Sarah Palin Can't Name a Newspaper She Reads
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September 30 at 5:06 pm - Link
"alaska isn't a foreign country" - peter
I love that Katie Couric cannot hide her look of contempt at 35s. - Erica Baker
I can't name a newspaper I read. - Amit Patel
Saying she reads the Internets might have helped. - Chris White
I can name 2 newspapers I read in Alaska. The Fairbanks Daily Newsminer and the Anchorage Daily News. That was 4 fricking years ago and I can still name them. - Erica Baker
A weekly paper in Alaska: http://www.petroleumnews.com - peter
There are no words...I mean like gee...she's all like...WTF - RAHwsomeSHEENsauce™
(A) Honesty: "I read the Wasilia Moosehumper, but usually just have time for Family Circus and Dear Abbey". (B) Lying: "I read the Journal, Harper's, the Economist, and the Harvard Law Review". (C) Cluelessness: "Um. All of them." - Steve Weis
Maybe she didn't want to give free advertising to the papers???? Or maybe... just maybe.... she's out of touch with her state and the other 49 - Anthony K. Valley ©
Couric: "What about blogs, do you keep up with any blogs?" Palin: "Yes, I read any of the ones put in front of me. I read all of them Katie." - Jason Shellen
Why are you all so hard on her? She said she reads most, all, and any put in front of her. Oh, and a vast variety of sources. How can you argue with that?! I mean, personally, I've only read a "bunch," so she has me beat - I think. - Vince DeGeorge
I read a bunch too. Google News. Memeorandum. FriendFeed. Between the three all the world's newspapers come into my view. But at least I could tell you something about them. How can we get her to go away? Please make it stop. I really hope this helps the Republican Party purge themselves of all the Religious Right jerks who've destroyed that party in the past 20 years. - Robert Scoble
"I also read all the internets." - Chris Messina
I can't name a newspaper I read cause I don't read newspapers. I get all my news from the screen in front of me or a little bit from the TV. - Mathew Ballard
What's a newspaper? - /(bb|[^b]{2})/ (Kamath)
I think the important thing to remember is we are not 'picking on her', we are trying to hold her to the high standard the office she is applying for demands... - John Worthington
Why does it feel like, the worse Palin appears, the more likely she's actually going to get voted into office? Oh, I remember now. That's what happened in the 2004 election. - Victor Ganata
I tell you one thing, she has really made me appreciate Hillary... - Vince DeGeorge
She should NOT have said she "reads them all". WTF kinda answer is that. I'm trying not to be on the Palin hater bandwagon, but she just won't work with me... - RAHwsomeSHEENsauce™
Wasn't it like this with Quale too? - Dave Saunders via twhirl
she reads "all of 'em. any of 'em." she's very entertaining! god bless her - Cee Bee
Alright, that's it - Palin has officially entered "un-parody-able" territory. Any joke about how uninformed she is only pales in comparison to the reality of how uninformed she is. SNL has got nothing on this Katie Couric footage. - Adam Kazwell
Gonna say it again... Principle from South Park - John Worthington
good god help us. This is it. I'm utterly disgusted at the joke that McCain and his campaign have made out of our election process and our government as a whole with this woman (sure, there are people there I'm sure who don't like her, but this nonsense was allowed to happen). - Chieze Okoye
I saw this mentioned this weekend, but I agree. It's cruel to put her in this position. She clearly isn't knowledgeable enough to answer these questions. She also clearly freezes up when challenged. They had to have some clue these were traits of her's before putting her up there. - Andrew Burd
more shit...this has got to go AWAY now dammit!! this is sooo stuoooopid! - Susan Beebe
this is a totally different stage than she's used to. they might not have known she would be like this under these conditions. <trying to give benefit of the doubt> - Jon Price
You know what I take away from this? That she reads and believes anything put in front of her. Let's hope the Taliban aren't sending her spoofed articles. *removes tongue from cheek* - Lindsey Smith
So you think she could name a newspaper and not get in trouble? Saying you read them all is a polite reply without picking favorites. - Dan Nimtz via twhirl
No, say "I'm not gonna give them free advertising", say anything that doesn't sound totally random and moronic - RAHwsomeSHEENsauce™
Just say "Time" or "People" any thing at all.... Well; any thing except what you did say. - J. Abdul-Qahhar
she gave the same exact answer W gave, except he also tossed in 'the Google'. - Faboo Mama
What's the shortest book in the world? The Sarah Palin book of Political Philosophy - Ivan Pope via twhirl
Not judging perspective, but Bush was proud not to listen to news and katrina happened under his nose. They had to basically put a You Tube style of clips in front of him so he could figure out what was happening. I am very concerned about someone who doesn't expose themselves to news that doesn't filter through their handlers. They should not be so easily controlled. - Eric @ CS Techcast
Dan: "get in trouble"??? with who? even if she said National Review Online, Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, she still would have covered her ass on the right-wing side. Hell, I'm not running for anything (yet) and read those all the time. I wouldn't even expect her to read them everyday, but at least be able to list something. - Faboo Mama
Has anyone bothered to check if she can read at all? Illiterate VP overcomes diversity..wins election and hearts of Americans. Interesting strategy. - Matt Musgrave
I just brought myself to watch this clip. My God. Seriously? Seriously? Are they for reals? Seriously? How Katie didn't just stop the strolling and say point blank "Please, just name one newspaper you read.", I'll never know. Although, the look on her face was awesome. Your face said it out loud Katie. - Yolanda
I'm sick of giving her the benefit of the doubt. She's had how long to prepare and CAN'T NAME A SINGLE NEWSPAPER IN THE US?? Any other position where she's this clearly mismatched (scratch that, unqualified) for the role, ANY OTHER POSITION, and she would have been laughed out of the room. This is completely ridiculous. - Chieze Okoye
w. Sadly Tina Fey's excellent parody is straight up. She doesn't need to presenhy wouldst a caricature, just the real thing... she get into trouble for naming a newspaper. That's ridiculou - Tim Wolters via twhirl
"all of em" she read all of them. - MG Siegler
Palin is a near Dubya-grade imbecile :( - Tim
Ok, we all agree. Not smart. Perhaps the title should be: "Sarah Palin Can't Name a Newspaper She Doesn't Read." What would your alternate video title be? - Jason Shellen
"I think the Onion has some great insight" But seriously, say WSJ, NYT, Washington Times - heck you'd even get points for USA Today. - AJ Kohn
If she says 1 particular newspaper, then people will drill down on that paper and assume that is the only place she gets her information from... and if she says 1 newspaper, the moment she has an opinion about something all media will be able to link it to one newspaper and its potential biases. She answered the question strategically here. I don't mind the answer. - Mike
She is totally in touch with the "microcosm of America" -- who actually reads newspapers or magazine anymore anyway? Reading is for lefty wimps. - Pete Delucchi
c'mon, she pretty much said she only reads what is put in front of her (at this point by Republican party handlers), which to me is actually worse than not saying "all of 'em" or "getting in trouble" for name dropping the wrong ones. basically it says she reads only what someone tells her too. I could never support someone that has this little curiosity about the world. - Jon Price
This reminds me of a sign here in Austin, http://www.flickr.com/photos/r... :) - Tim
I think a bird that makes on a newspaper could name it. - Steve Rubel
I think it's amazing that people are actually trying to explain this away. Seriously, you guys? - Chieze Okoye
Wow, people still use newspapers to keep in touch with what's going on in the world? - Michael Pick via twhirl
WOW! Did she name names after this clip? Or was this the end of the question ? - Sumit Chachra
C'mon, people, she reads all of them! Any of them! - Dror Shimshowitz
the hilarity just doesn't stop. fun fact: sarah palin got her degree in... journalism! - Leonard
Thinking that PT Barnum is wishing he could charge for the spectacle coming up on Thursday. Wow. - Casey
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3M Launches first Pocket Projector
September 12 at 9:24 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
"In a dark room, it could project a big enough image to be the ultimate cheap-o home theater. The projector will sell for a mere $359. It doesn’t have a speaker, so you’ll have to get that separately. But really, how good could a microscopic speaker jammed into this thing sound, anyway?" - Cee Bee via Bookmarklet
Ooooooh!!! DO WANT!! - Lindsay Donaghe
Want! This could be especially helpful in intimate performance venues! - Mavericks of Troy, NV!
resolution? - RAPatton
WANT!!! - Brian Norwood
3M’s projector shows full-color, standard def video at a rate of at least 60 frames per second—television quality. Its 10 lumens of brightness make it powerful enough to overcome bright room lighting to project an image about 15 inches across. When we took it into a dark room, it could easily do 50 inches. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... - Cee Bee
I suspect the figures they talk about are in optimal conditions. - Amit Morson
I'm thinking it would be perfect for impromptu podcast shows... or even a little bit of on the fly protest movie reel. - alphaxion
++WANT - Chris Kim A
Until 3M makes it right with Scott Abelman (the Post-It Notes Car Guy) I am trying not to buy anything new from them. http://www.whatsnextblog.com/a... - RAD Moose
At first pass, I thought it said pocket protector and I was confused. - Yolanda
I got your pocket projector right here, buddy! :-) Seriously, that does seem to be quite handy. - Peter "that one" Ghosh
awesome! want! - .LAG
I'll take one when they get embedded in mobile phones - http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/... - Slippy Lane
Also LOL@Peter G - Slippy Lane
yet another thing to hide from my husband, though i think the baby would do that handily. - Faboo Mama
WANT - Aaron Krug
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With a BS in Plant Physiology & Biochemistry, I'm very excited about this breakthrough. Plants FTW! - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Those gases are potentially very volatile. They don't really speak about how they've solved the storage of those gases since they don't provide the energy per volume or transportability of petroleum. As they say in the article, they will have years to solve that one. - Ernie Oporto
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What Every American Needs to Know (and Do) About FISA Before Tuesday, July 8th
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July 7 at 10:02 am - Link
Right on. Couldn't agree more, but I should point out ours is NOT a democracy. It is a republic. Big difference. Ours is a rule by law, not by the majority. That's why we need to stand up for our 4th Amendment rights, and call up our Congressmen and Senators right now, today, to ask them not to support the FISA bill. - Raoul Pop
Thanks for this. Very informative. A good kick in the pants to take action. - Larry Kless via twhirl
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“Maryam says "stop screwing around with FriendFeed and come and feed yourself." Dinner is ready!”
July 3 at 7:57 pm - Link
The dinner doesn't exist unless you show us via Qik. - Louis Gray
I already had dinner, so I can stay and play. :) - Sonciary Honnoll
I hope her message was via a Tweet. ;-) - Jeff P. Henderson
No service will ever replace GutFeed. - Vince DeGeorge
My wife hasn't said that yet, but that's mostly just because dinner isn't ready. - Ryan Kuder
Louis: hmmm, no Qik of the meal, sorry. But it was yummy! Jeff: no, but she does SMS me sometimes when I don't listen. :-) - Robert Scoble
there was spam? - directeur via NoiseRiver
So the time elapsed between the first note and his first comment was 15 minutes. So Robert, did you gulp it down and ask her to do dishes? Were paper plates involved? :-) - Louis Gray
He never said he wasn't using his iPhone under the table. - Andrew Feinberg
Sounds like our dinner conversations - my wife has to pry the iphone away from me during dinner - Jesse Stay
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Another example of Governmental intrusion in the name of "security", and big business simply dying to oblige them... (As an aside, I wish FF included a link to the actual Reddit post, too, so that I could vote it up over there...) - Andrew Terry
wow this is the most bizarre invasion of privacy I have seen, but you know it could have some benefits to the goverment?? - Josh Chandler
gu-u-u-uys, wake up, it is XXI century out there and privacy had been augmented from you significantly when you voted (or not rebelled against voting) last time :) - silpol
So, buy more open hardware, with open firmware and open software running on it. Or have your tech disabled when govt sees fit. - 9000
Scary. Dystopian Sci-Fi is cool....dystopias are not.... - Abby Martin
Open source hardware is a great idea, but tough to pull off unless we want to reverse the miniaturization trend. Moore's law pretty much requires some fairly expensive tooling combined with large numbers of highly specialized professionals. I'd be all too happy to sacrifice some on the spec sheet for the sake of broader understanding, but I suspect I wouldn't have a lot of company in that sentiment. - Jason Wehmhoener
Simply fighting kill switch legislation is probably a lot closer to being possible, but then again, democracy does seem to be as challenging as electronics engineering for many people. - Jason Wehmhoener
When do we get kill switches for authorities? - Jim Norris
Dude, if you buy a new Zune you'll get to experience the awesomeness of this first hand. Thanks, NBC and Microsoft! - Jennifer Dittrich
Miniaturization does not need to be sacrificed. That is, Taiwanese factories would gladly produce non-killswitch-conformant hardware, *if there's enough demand*. E.g. I've never bought a region-locked DVD drive, ever; all of them came region-free with region lock settable programmatically (which nobody in his sane mind uses). Also, there are open ARM and Sparc CPU designs at least, quite fit for gadgets. - 9000
wrt open hardware, see also: http://www.boingboing.net/2008... - 9000
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Kevin Rose and Gary Vaynerchuk talk wine on Mahalo Daily
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July 1 at 9:12 am - Link
love the back to basics - Stefan Hayden
I love the 'trick' on how to remove the foil... Thanks Gary! - Steve Garfield via twhirl
ha! gary, cracks me up. good show - sean percival
Lighting a bit dark but, heh, whatever: it's Gary with Kevin!! :) - Barbara K. Baker
Love these guys! They make me laugh no matter what words come out of their mouth. Good points about the wine fridge, but I still want one. - Rachel Rubin
damn he's passionate - Zee from WeDoCreative
This was a lot of fun. I'd love to see more of these. - Chris Miller
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June 30 at 2:35 pm - Link
So, if my FriendFeed on this is embedded on my blog, will it be considered a comment? Blog posts are daily journals that are dead, until comments bring them back alive and keep them living! - Michael Sheehan via twhirl
sorry Robert but you're wrong - Steven Hodson
"Trying to control where comments on your blog posts are displayed is fruitless" would be be my version of your post - Brian Sullivan
Heheh. Already more comments here too. - Robert Scoble
Isn't the web meant to be "hyperlinked" at first? - directeur via NoiseRiver
Dead? No. Being re-invented as we speak? Yes. - Mike Doeff
So Robert...where are you more likely to respond to a comment? Here on FF or over on your blog? - Jerry Chacon
If FriendFeed would just partner with Disqus to handle comments, we'd have a comment system that cut across all the channels, no? - Ken Sheppardson
I'm against "centred" things. Look at twitter. The most distributed things are, the best it is. - directeur via NoiseRiver
Jerry: I'm equally likely to respond to a comment here as well as on my blog. Ken, Disqus can help, but not really. I still like commenting on FriendFeed better than on people's blogs. For a whole lot of reasons. Much of which has to do with UI and iPhone accessibility. - Robert Scoble
It's because people want to OWN their own comments. You can store your own comments wherever you like because they belong to you. I wonder how many people started blogging because they wanted to join the conversation on their own blog rather than just replying on other people's blog? - Chris Paton
@Robert - I commented here strictly based on your headline as I am in the middle of a post and your post hasn't shown up in my reader yet (yes I could have clicked the link but I'm busy - post reading can wait) - I very often comment on the blogs if the post is *sufficently interesting* enough to entice me to post a comment. - Steven Hodson
directeur: cool. My experience shows that most people don't care about those issues. Including on Twitter. When it's up I still see a Tweet every second coming into my account. - Robert Scoble
Robert, I'm clearly quite visible here, but even for me, I still get more comments on the blog than on FriendFeed, in most cases. See my article about that here: http://www.louisgray.com/live/... - Louis Gray
Heh...I commented on your blog Robert, but I'm seeing a "waiting moderation" message. Score 1 for FriendFeed (you're seeing this comment immediately). - Hutch Carpenter
I second that comments are being reinvented. I also agree with people wanting to own their comments. I've just become so used to Disqus and FriendFeed that I couldn't believe that some blogs still had the old Wordpress commenting mechanism. - possible248
Louis: I still am getting a lot of comments, but I'm definitely seeing the tide switching. I bet that much of your audience doesn't know you are on FriendFeed all the time yet. - Robert Scoble
I'm thinking that the "latest" section on my homepage should just be my brand's Ffeed - Tom Beardshaw
Cool. And the comments are all here on FriendFeed.. Very cool. Of course, for Joe.Blogspot the thesis is incorrect. But maybe it's a trend. - john conroy
FF allows us to cross-post back to twitter when responding to tweets in our FF feed here. Wouldn't it be possible to send our FF comments to Disqus comments back to the blogs? - sedgewick
If it's a blogger I know is on FF, I'll comment on FF. - Tom Landini
I think he's right...if not dead, they are close - George Gray
We've had several very useful discussions on scripting.com recently. - Dave Hussein Winer
the-iBlog doesn't get many comments, and I'm not commenting on other blogs as much either. - Oli from the-iBlog
gee i never got many blog comments in the first place - Andy Sternberg via twhirl
A bit premature but inevitably I think you will pan out to be right. It seems like more of a chore checking my own blog's comments lately, and I seldom leave blog comments for lack of patience with login/typekey/captcha lameness. The ease and speed of commenting here has made blog comments seem downright stale. - Steve Isaacs
Not totally dead but getting there! You should add FF comments to your blog, I just did and love the integration: http://www.seanpercival.com/bl... - sean percival
Your post does have some merit, Robert. Before FriendFeed (and still currently), people's actual visits to blogs were diminishing, while reading through rss readers and such was increasing. This is especially true for tech blogs. I think people were longing to be able to comment via their feed reader without having to go back to the blog. FriendFeed seems to solve this, and I think will only get better as they improve. - Jesse Stay
I don't want blog comments to die... I love receiving them! - Paul Stamatiou
I want to also add that there's nothing wrong with people not coming back to your blog if you have a way for them to still build community around your blog, outside of the blog itself. If you can still monetize that audience or turn that audience into some value as a blog owner, traffic on blogs themselves will decrease even more in the future, while community around those blogs will only increase. - Jesse Stay
Mine have always been pretty dead... - Fraser Smith
FF/Disqus are disruptive technologies but if they prevented blog owners from getting at comments on their writings and integrating them back into the page, you'd better bet that bloggers would work around that. - Andy Murdoch
I've noticed most blogs don't get many comments, and the ones that do tend to get comments of a spammy sort (people pimping their own blogs in Techcrunch comments, for example). For the most part, real discussion still takes place on forums, or various incarnations of the such (which I'd classify Friendfeed and even Twitter as). People that like to have conversations tend to gravitate towards places where they can decide what to talk about - people's blogs don't really offer that. - Eric
Depends on the blog, however, on the majority of blogs comments are dead. - Dave Martin
Here is the comment that I left on your blog: "Robert, you are a master at baiting, I’ll give you that. :) On a separate note, clearly people weren’t wrapping their heads around the car post. Perhaps it’s because automobiles are outside of your perceived areas of expertise?" - Mark Dykeman
It's more than just comments that are changing. Comments aren't dead but they are 'moving' . Clearly a sign of both Friendfeed's appeal. It's happening faster than this guy expected. Most users will still go directly to the blogs and websites they like for a long time. I had several blogs with the comments turned off and they still were relatively easy to SEO. The dialog is clearly better here. Go Disqus and FF! - Charlie Anzman
Claiming that "XYZ is dead is dead". I think FF comments and the like are interesting, but unless it's easier to create the intersection for the average user, this is going to be an inside joke. Maybe that's why people like it. - tim
Now... can I replace my commenting system on my WP blog with Friend Feed? I mean, I'd be sad to see ID go away, but it seems there's more activity here. Edit: Found this: http://wordpress.org/extend/pl... - Adam C.
Comments are definitely in a state of change, not dead though. Maybe once Friendfeed gets more mainstream we'll see more blogs using the FF plug-in, along with Disqus and Seesmic to enable more conversations between platforms. David Risley has an interesting perspective on this: http://www.davidrisley.com/200... - Larry Kless
Wait till the spammers start targetting FriendFeed - Peter Reavy
I for one accept our new commenting overlords. - David Cohn
Over the last year, we've seen an increase in the number of comments on our Boulton & Co. blog, but not an increase in their quality. I see, however, that the Huffington Post has a loyal band of "commenters". I think you're more advanced in this area in the States than we are in the UK. - Miranda Richardson
not sure if i fully agree with you (even your 2/3 dead posted elsewhere), but this is exactly why i love reading your blog and why i'll follow your conversations wherever you have them. and so my thought: comments aren't dead, they are just simultaneously getting more dispersed (friendfeed+twitter) and easier to follow (disqus). however, commenting is still the domain of the few. i think new and very different forms of interaction around content will come soon (i'm working on one myself). - mike
Really ;-) - sachin sawant
When I comment on a blog, I take my time to write a thoughtful and researched response. On twitter or ff it is more a quick opinion or thought. Different medium, different use. - Tamara Gruber
Not dead maybe, just evolving. Always evolving. - Sonciary Honnoll
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June 30 at 9:24 am - Link
Cool. Loved that talk by Sir Ken Robinson. - John Jarvis
The Robinson talk was amazing...and there are so many other amazing TED talks as well. - Jerry Chacon via twhirl
a big +1 to the Robinson talk and Jill Taylor talks - Edwin Khodabakchian
Not on this list but still a great TED talk - http://www.ted.com/index.php/t... - Andrew Smith
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June 30 at 1:58 pm - Link
Count me in as well. Our 2005 Hybrid is serving us well and I'm hypermiling to get about 15% higher than EPA estimates, but I'm all for alternatives like this. - Kevin C. Tofel
Dude. If you can afford it, then I want a job working for FastCompany, too. :) - l0ckergn0me
Robert -- Is there a pre-order site up yet for Tesla S? I sent them an RFI on how to get on the wait list, but I have not yet heard back. - Jerry Chacon
Chris: you shouldn't talk. You and Ponzi always have the coolest cars. :-) - Robert Scoble
I fear that by supporting Tesla we're only contributing to the West's endless dependence on electricity. - Dan Kaplan
Awesome car. I'd buy one if I could afford $60K. Wonder how much your home electric bill will go up? - Josh Bancroft
Are you planning to generate your own electricity with small scale wind/solar/etc? Otherwise the savings you'll make on gas prices won't be great (as oil goes, energy follows). But electric cars are a step in the right direction, Congrats - Cains
"I like keeping my money in the state" ? Come on Robert... :-) - directeur via NoiseRiver
Does anyone know how the Tesla cars handle heating? My dad is really interested in electric cars, but he always worries about how they will generate heat. - Tracy Hurley
Tracy - I believe the battery pack has a giant aluminum heat sink attached to it, and luckily since the car drives around, there's lots of air cooling ;) - Phil Glockner
We'll be in the market for a new car in about 2 years as well. I hope these things materialize. - Jeremy Brooks
It is a shame the price is so high. They have probably priced out the people who would most like to get one. - Rob Diana
Josh: Elon Musk, chairman of the board of Tesla, told me you can go about 225 miles for about $3 worth of electricity in California (at today's rates). Compare to nearly $5 gas for our BMW, which goes 24 miles on just $5. Rob: if these are successful, they say there will be a $30,000 model out within four years. - Robert Scoble
I always find Americans talking about motoring hilarious. In America, 30 MPG is some sort of impossible Holy Grail. If you're not doing that in Europe, and I mean ina big vehicle, then either you're driving a Bentley or you've got a hole in your petrol tank. Far as I'm concerned, car technology begins with the Japs and ends with the Germans. I wouldn't spend $50 on a car from any other nation. - john conroy
For electric cars to truly take off we need to find ways to lower the prices sooner, whether by subsidies or whatever. Lower income families are the ones most affected by energy costs and are more likely the ones driving energy inefficient vehicles. - m.0
If I were old enough to drive, I would want one. Then I wouldn't have to pay those outrageous gas prices - Grant
John: I have a two-year-old BMW and it only gets 25 mpg average. And it's the smallest BMW they sell (with the least power possible). - Robert Scoble
[Warning! European High-Horse alert in my comment above] - john conroy
John: US uses a lower RON rated petrol making MPG comparisons difficult - Cains
I just came back from a short spin with a friend of mine (in Ireland). He drives a 1.4l, 2008 Honda Civic. A modest but beautiful car. His display shows the MPG, and we were talking about MPG in general. It was doing 44.5, and he reckons he gets 46 as the norm. Over here, 1.4l is the typical engine displacement for family saloon/hatchback. 1.1 - 1.3l for a small town car. - john conroy
They also announced a 30k model coming in 4(I think) years today. - Jason Massie
apologies-- no more noise from me -- but @Cains -- this I did not know (about the RON rating). This changes things... - john conroy
John: also, most cars in Europe are diesels which supposedly pollute more, but get much better mileage. California, for instance, has much stricter smog laws than most places (just head to China to see how bad it can get). - Robert Scoble
How does one sign up or the Tesla S? - Jerry Chacon via twhirl
Robert: John's pretty accurate on the average engine size. While diesels are popular here I don't think they're over 30% market share. The main reason for the Us Vs Euro discrepancies is the differing octane rating and problems associated with that (larger fuel tank/etc). For example, BMW's start at 2.8L in the US Vs 1.8L in Europe - Cains
Robert: I'm not sure if modern diesels do pollute more. They are more efficient but, in the recent crisis (in the UK at least) the price of diesel has risen more than that of unleaded so the efficiency advantage has been eroded. - Fraser Smith
John: it's not just the RON ratings that affect the mileage - the engines are dreadfully inefficient too. In Europe 45mpg is the norm, I really notice it in hire cars when I go back home. Americans should demand the fuel efficient engines too, they make a huge difference to consumption. - Sally Church
Sally: good point. Americans have not cared about gas efficiency until now. They like their powerful engines and big SUVs. Marketing of cars is often about how fast they can go, not how fuel efficient they are (Prius and gas prices are changing that). - Robert Scoble
If you want popularly priced electric, the EV smart is on the way: http://tinyurl.com/6yrwus - Chris Baskind
We are definitely getting one as well. This is a no-brainer. - Andru Edwards
Where do I sign up to get on the waiting list? - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
ok, call me an 'old guy' (cue will smith), but the tesla is listing at more than i paid for my first house! [sheesh]. i think i'll keep riding the bus to work. - MikeAmundsen
The whole concept of a $60k automobile being a "no brainer" purchase puts you all in a very different tax bracket than many of us. The payback on this kind of purchase will take a long time and no one can predict the maintenance costs. - Dave Ploch
110k for a car that I don't really like that much, I don't think so. It's like buying a Prius: it makes a statement, but that's about it. Until I can drive it cross-country I really couldn't care. But someone has to buy them to get the idea started, so good for your Robert! - xero
xero: the sedan is $60,000. Expensive for most people, but not unusual in Silicon Valley. - Robert Scoble
Robert: they are paying you too much. ;) - ron k jeffries
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June 30 at 12:45 pm - Link
It's about time, that museums came to their senses :) - Shivanand Velmurugan via twhirl
Thats great and we have tickets to the Frida show on the 15th of July, just in time. - Jon Erickson
An improvement. How rare... - Håkan Dahlström
Great news. - Mike Doeff
Congratulations! - Daan
Jon: It specifically says photography will be restricted in special exhibits (i.e. Frida). - Justin Korn
This is really good news! - Justin Korn
Does anyone know the NY MOMA Photography Policy? I searched both their site and google and could not find anything. - Espen
Espen, the NY MOMA allows photography in their permanent galleries. - Thomas Hawk
great news! I once got dinged for secret shooting with my split-frame. Guess it wasn't so secret! - lisa-k
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