I think they should give a cut to photographers who could have their pictures burned to one of those CDs or DVDs. And while we're at it, let's tax paper just in case someone photocopies a book that's copyrighted.
- Chantal
Same pig, new lipstick. I have no loyalty - even tho I have 10 yrs worth of pre-gmail email saved there.
- Penelope Mudd
there are so many wildly smart people there. hope they are able to focus.
- michael sean wright
The soviet union had wildly smart people as well, but the wrong framework...
- James Watters
ahhh. thanks Robert. Hadn't actually tried it from there. shows you how much I come around. making an effort, I do enjoy the concept here - almost like a collaborative IRC on steroids. @Robert
- Omar
nicefishfilms: it took Microsoft six years to get Bing.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Yahoo is irrelevant to me. It gives me nothing I can't get elsewhere.
- Jim Connolly
Compuserve has new page.. yay.Wait looks like AltaVista changed something too. in other words- meh! But that is from a techie- general public still uses it and AT&T DSL subscribers use it.
- Alyx
They're still a traffic juggernaut thanks to the SBC|DSL deal. Millions and millions of SBC (Now AT&T) home DSL users have Yahoo set as their homepage and have no idea how to switch it and in most cases don't want to because their e-mail is run through there too.
- Adam Turetzky
I don't even use the yahoo weather feed on my iPhone. The hack putting the temp next to the battery is lovely though. @ Jim !! That's exactly the crux... imho
- Omar
RS: but I said I care =] i mean i am one of those 300 million i mean several of them =]
- Özgür D. Cyric
I stopped using Yahoo because the home page had too much crap on it. Google kept theirs simple.
- Chris Mayer
Flickr became irrelevant once I started using webspace more. Am an oldschool member though.
- Omar
There is an important strategic difference between no longer growing and dead. Yahoo is no longer growing; they own the wrong market segments.
- James Watters
And I don't know why people would knock them. Yahoo!'s homepage and the my.yahoo.com page have so much more to offer than what Google gives you. The search results are only mildly different, at least in my limited testing.
- Adam Turetzky
I never said Yahoo is dead. I said I don't care.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@Robert; yeah, just reacting to a few, they are toast comments and people talking about a few apps they still have left as if that matters.
- James Watters
I think there are still many who care abour Yahoo, as Robert said over 300 million page visits a month. I just think there is room for improvement.
- wiredgnome
from iPod
Hoop: nothing is there that makes me care. My friends and news are elsewhere.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@jamesurquhart had an interesting twitter discussion today asking how many comcast people use their provider as their homepage; Apparently comcast has stats saying many many do. I think I'm very out of touch with the average internet user, as are most of my friends out here.
- James Watters
Scoble: You probably shouldn't. For some reason when I read you saying you don't care I infer it as an implication that you don't think other people should. Truth be told I'm not sure how much time I'll spend there but if Yahoo's homepage turns out to be a better FriendFeed, I'd give it a week try-out
- Hoop
I guess one or two of us here will peek at Yahoo tomorrow to see what they're up to....
- Gus
@Hoop, their new homepage will emulate FF?
- James Watters
Not really. I stopped using Yahoo! in 2001.
- Chantal
I just looked at their home page for the first time in years...ick!
- James Watters
@James, only in the sense that it seems to let me pull content from lots of other sites togeter. That's the main value I get from FriendFeed, pulling together multiple social networks including my friend lists. FriendFeed is fantastic but far from the ultimate experience
- Hoop
@Rutger - just from my perspective, and most people who have been online for a good period. It's still a solid offering, just not as innovative as it was in the early days vs comparative products. It stood on its own then...
- Omar
@Hoop, if they made it primarily about social feeds that would def be big news, esp in an innovative way. But I doubt they will go that far, their existing users would bark.
- James Watters
@Hoop - I still want to find a team to build c0nnected.net into an intelligent intake mechanism - what I'm calling the neural extentive internet, in my head.. I do not code however. wrote a short abstract on it, would be happy to email the concept if requested. Intelligent metrics, full customization, etc. . .
- Omar
@hoop - Abstract topic - Topic: true data singularity or the neural extentive humanistic content management system, [considerations leading eventually to "the neural extensis," a proposed eventual website.]
- Omar
Omar: please explain data singularity?
- James Watters
@James, agreed but if they found a way to bridge that it woudl be huge news. The FriendFeed experience with really simple UX and heavier weight on Yahoo's own content feeds woudl be huge. Alas that's not what I'm seeing on the new homepage and like Scoble, I don't care about anything I see so far.
- Hoop
I am another of those that hasn't looked at Yahoo's home page in years so I couldn't care less about there homepage changes.
- russellcoleman
@James - well I'm not a CS head, so the terminology isn't a declarative absolutism, just what I decided to call it.. this is an abstract developed in a vacuum, thus far. All your data, encapsulated and delivered to a single point. Much like we do google reader for RSS (those that do), however every source in your social media net and ALL your other browser based http traffic can be drawn in. . .
- Omar
YHOO and AAPL both issue earnings Tuesday .... any guesses ???
- Charlie Anzman
Just posted the neural extensis concept (what I've typed formally thus far) as a blog entry:::
- Omar
Omar: slightly OT but my dream site has a little of "my" data and a lot of data for other sources. I'm not as fascinated by the site as I am about the liberation of my data, what Doug Purdy calls the infobus. maybe it starts with a more federated/open FriendFeed. But eventually I do want an app to show me all the data in one place and organized and it will come down to the App with the best experience. Owning my data shouldn't be an advantage. If Yahoo gave me that, I'd care.
- Hoop
@Hoop - You've given me some interesting things to think about. The beauty of the idea I am proposing is you can pull other data you'd read regularly,, or for a short time into the offering. Completely customizable. Think of it as a fully customized scraper of sorts, for things that don't already have a feed, or an API, that you're interested in reading and or keeping track of. And yes, it'd be pulling in things like google calendar, etc of course! Please elabourate a bit on "owning data," ?
- Omar
I cant tell the difference to be honest. Is it really different or am I being punked?
- Ron George
Yahoo's web presence is done IMHO. The only people that care are your grandma who hasn't changed her default home page that Dell specified.
- Alex Knight
I guess I'm in the minority here, but I still like (and use) my MyYahoo page. Granted I spend more time in Google Reader than probably anywhere else, but I still use MyYahoo (and I'm not even a grandma or grandpa ;p )
- Michael Pardee
from iPhone
Is Yahoo still around? I thought they were bought by Mattel.
- Ernie Oporto
from iPhone
I stopped using Yahoo years ago. Yahoomail has a pretty incompetent spam blocker. The Yahoo page is much too busy. I went All Gmail/Google but of late, Gmail's been pretty flaky. Yahoo search is probably pretty good, but we're past the Good Enough stage, now. For something new to elbow in, it's got to be very significantly better or different (and engaging).
- Murli Nagasundaram
You just compared a content portal refresh to two social networks and a search—nay: decision—engine. Pretty sure you're way off base Robert.
- David Chartier
Also, I'm no fan of it myself, but according to the last stats I heard a couple months ago, Yahoo's home/start page had about 250 million monthly uniques. Pretty sure that's still slaughtering the competition.
- David Chartier
Robert - its 2009, are hompy's still important ?? Think of it !!
- Peter Dawson
Does Yahoo have a page. They have more traffic than any site in the world.
- Stephen Pickering
I don't use Yahoo that much anymore but to they will not become irrelevant until someone else provides the same services they do. Anyone who thinks FriendFeed and twitter do that for people like my mom and my grandma doesn't get it.
- Hoop
I don't see Bing or Yahoo as a threat to Google. Bing is a great product but it doesn't seem like anything that Google couldn't create with less effort.
- Hugh Isaacs II
Hoop: Thanks for the link! Tried to see new homepage earlier and wasn't prompted by Yahoo, as I expected. My first take is that the redesign is cleaner and more flexible. The bad thing -- and I mean *really* bad -- is that they have now dedicated even more room to display advertisements. That's a deal breaker for me; no way would I use the redesign. But I'll still hit My Yahoo daily.
- Larry Hawes
I stopped using Yahoo for my home page a long time ago. Rarely use it these days, so no I don't care.
- Kirk Bryan
yahoo! is still around? Oh yea, they own Flickr. :)
- Kreg Steppe
Yes cuz I have to use them everyday and my service provider partners w/em!
- polou/indigo_bow
Except for Delicious, MyBlogLog, Yahoo Pipes, and occasionally Flickr, I don't have much of a use for anything else that is Yahoo.
- April Russo
I'm more interested in Gmail's new changes.
- wiredgnome
It's never a bad idea to be prepared by installing a virus scanner, even if you don't feel the need to use it on a regular basis. Just don't forget to update the virus definitions.
- Chantal
RT @pcnerd37: This is retarded, you can't wish people a Merry Christmas on PlayStation Home because the Christ part of Christmas is censored out. Fail.
The Vatican calling something immoral? What a joke. When their priests stop diddling little boys, maybe their opinions will matter a bit more.
- Chantal
Divided: why do you want to read a newspaper made by people you don't know? Or buy a car from people you don't know? Or eat a meal made by people you don't know?
- Robert Scoble