"Nexus One is not about the phone, it's about the business model. Google introduces a $199 unlocked device to the market, that is 15x less money on the table compared to signing 2-year contracts on any of the existing devices."
- Charbax
"OLPC is 100% a success. The whole point was to force the worldwide laptop industry into making cheaper lower power less bloated laptops. This is exactly what has happened. Also, 1.4 million kids use the XO-1 laptop everyday, it consumes 10x less power than your netbook, costs half the price, is sunlight readable, works using WiFi meshing and is the first laptop to have popularized Linux on laptops and it basically kick-started Linux on consumer laptops."
- Charbax
"OLPC made XO-1, Pixel Qi low power low cost sunlight readable LCD screens, WiFi Mesh networking, DCON motherboard instant standby/resume, Linux on consumer oriented laptops, advanced anti-stealing security platform, millions of kids in the developing countries have it and the whole Netbook revolution happened because of it. They have a track record of actually realizing on complete amazing revolutionary technologies. It's the main people from the MIT doing it! XO 1.5 is coming next month based on the VIA processor. XO 1.75 will come in the next few months based on ARM processors."
- Charbax
specially the iphone's screen so fragile.. :(
- Nelson Mateo
Great format. Leo + Dvorak + hipster Blogger + Super smart guy = Win! (maybe get more people in studio. studio drinking is funny.)
- echostreamer
This is the first time they talk about Archos on twit, of course it's not as popular as it should be
- Charbax
I'm in total agreement with Lisa, i barely have enough money for an iphone, let alone buying every new shiny thing. We're normal, not the ones who buy every new shiny thing.
- Chris Heath
The iphone is $2500 for the 2 year contract, you must be rich if you have one of those
- Charbax
yeah...i agree with chris...as long as you have something that works for ya.. :)
- Nelson Mateo
hey, i'm not saying that i don't want to have all the coolest gear, but the reality is that i can't afford it. Same as most people.
- Chris Heath
hook me up with one of those tickets Leo :P...i wanna go
- Nelson Mateo
the world is moving towards 1 gadget for everything not the other way around (E reader) my opinion
- echostreamer
spot on there Chris. trouble with proprietary stuff like ipods and kindles is that they are not upgradeable. when new ipod comes out only way to upgrade is to buy a new one!! can't afford that every 2 or 3 years i want something that will last i can get my money's worth out of
- Andy
it's ok as long as you can override the filtering if you so choose
- Andy
I knew I would hear Johnny Worthington on TWiT one day...Yay! it's about time
- Bill Heslin
it's wrong for parents to offload parenting to the govt imho
- Chris Heath
Filtering adult websites is totally ok. Just let adults access everything if they want through a registry. People that go around the main DNS can easily get detected and parents can be contacted by email (that DNS circumvention or packet encryption is happening)
- Charbax
can someone tell me what good iphone app i can use to use FF and comment and stuff?
- Nelson Mateo
Charbax - yes, it's needed - but by the *parents* - not the government
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
It was just a matter of time...I'm very happy...as I'm sure Johnny is...Congrats Johnny and FFundercats...Great segment Johnny...
- Bill Heslin
Government must provide free broadband Internet access to all. Monopolistic private enterprises are the ones blocking innovation and no I would not want to leave it to AT&T to do the DNS filtering
- Charbax
just watched it two hours ago....ITS AMAZING!! :)
- Nelson Mateo
i like this andrew guy... i like the cut of his jib
- Chris Heath
The parents need one tool to do the filtering, simply DNS filtering and instant email alerts if DNS is circumvented or Encryption is used on a Child-only ADSL/Cable connection
- Charbax
software filters are BS and you cannot require parents to understand how to setup private filtering on their Windows/Mac crap-PCs
- Charbax
best theater experience is the Mugar Omni Theater in boston at the science musem the IMAX dome screen is just crazy. you're so close to it and it wraps around you if you're able to sit in the middle http://www.mos.org/exhibit...
- Chris Heath
sky in the uk are supposed to be lsunching a 3d channel in the next year or so that you don't need glasses for. I heard something about it and can't find any info now. any links anybody?
- Andy
Having a hardware filter is fine Charbax but it should be opt-in.
- ralphsaunders
Nah, it should be standard and Adults should be able to opt-out
- Charbax
They provide barf bags with the 3D glasses. This whole 3D movie business is BS
- Charbax
Why? People should be able to view what they want.
- ralphsaunders
Yeah, adults can decide to unlock an ADSL/Cable/Fiber internet connection opt-in. Even parents could decide to opt-in to unlock it completely or to unlock it only through a password
- Charbax
Charbax. you're a star. I heard about this when channel 4 had a 3d week the other month and then lost the link. thanks for that!!
- Andy
It would be a mammoth task to impliment though charbax.
- ralphsaunders
mind you, i don't have a hd tv yet so I could hold out a bit longer if i thought it would be worth it
- Andy
Nah it's just an upgrade of the DNS servers. And the Government could enlist a few thousand volunteer adults who can help tagging un-tagged adult sites and stuff using a browser plugin
- Charbax
it could be that simple. I'd be ok if the Government simply ask Google to host the DNS server using Google Safe Search filters and unlocked through a parents-only password
- Charbax
they should just get set up with opendns
- Chris Heath
if you circumvent the main DNS, it is instantly detected so an email could be sent to the parents saying something like "your children might be circumventing DNS or using encryption "
- Charbax
Not sure how well that would scale...
- ralphsaunders
well something like this needs to be done. Seriously, kids just 10 years old even younger are faced with this and child psychologists say it's really not healthy
- Charbax
what's not healthy is parents not being involved in their children's lives and the raising of their children... that's what's not healthy (imho as usual)
- Chris Heath
They could easily filter TV programs for adult-only stuff if all TV was IPTV
- Charbax
Neil Gaiman rules! (Leo mentioned Coraline) also the sandman
- echostreamer
But TV monopolies wouldn't want that to happen. Real IPTV everywhere would mean people would get Youtube, Twit and all those decentralized shows directly onto their tv
- Charbax
i don't think i'll go 3D for a long long time... if at all
- Chris Heath
Hes right. I just got rid of TV. I dont have a TV or Cable (or even an antenna.) Twit.tv + Hulu + online sports = all you need
- echostreamer
I want it the other way round. i want the freedom of the internet but in the comfort of my armchair on my big screen tv
- Andy
i don't want to be sitting at my computer all night
- Andy
What you need to do is bring an armchair into your office
- ralphsaunders
lol @ralph it's just not comfortable watching on a computer. if i had a way of getting full internet access on my tv i would do it
- Andy
"smoking kills" on side of every fag packet in uk. nobody notices them anymore
- Andy
Don't you think people who want to smoke know its bad for them anyway?
- ralphsaunders
true. my mum in law smokes like a chimney even though her husband had a triple heart by-pass caused 80% by smoking all his life. she knnows danger but "needs" to smoke (her words)
- Andy
squarespace, plez add a drag and drop flash player (so i can post vid), thank you
- echostreamer
hey bill. i don't smoke but part of me wants to start just to cock a finger at all the nanny state warnings and political correctness around leading a healthy lifestyle. anyone else feel like that?
- Andy
LOL...Johnny...congrats again...even though Leo doesn't realize it's not late in Australia...it's midday eh?
- Bill Heslin
Andy...I wish I could quit...It's a love/ hate relationship....I've smoked for almost 20 years now...I quit for about a year when a boyfriend wanted me to...but then he left...so it's more about the boyfreind than the smoking.... :) Counting on my genes to get me through....
- Bill Heslin
"I also think that the high unlocked phone prices have to do with cell phone manufacturers making deals with telecom companies where it's actually the telecom companies that kind of get an exclusivity to distribute the devices, and based on that, the telecom purposefully puts a huge margin on the sale of unlocked devices precisely because the telecoms are not interested in people buying unlocked devices, so telecoms prefer selling the subsidized devices tied with long subscription contracts. Yet, all the rumors on the Nexus One point towards Google disrupting this business model by not selling through carriers but instead selling the unlocked device directly through retail stores and through its own website."
- Charbax
"It doesn't matter what price phones are sold at today. The fact is the price for manufacturing the phone is 100€. So if Google decides not to make profit on selling the hardware, they can sell it at that price. Keeping the price high, would be taking part of continued price fixing."
- Charbax
"They manufacture the cheapest smartphones for $30 over in China. If HTC doesn't want to make it, then Google can go to any other of dozens of manufacturers to have those cheaper Android phones done."
- Charbax
"Google can sell it for 100€ unlocked because that's what it costs to manufacture it. Google doesn't need to profit on hardware, they plan to profit on mobile ads."
- Charbax
"I've been posting thousands of 720p videos on the web since 2005 at http://techvideoblog.com from consumer electronics tradeshows and tech conferences mostly. Before Youtube HD I would upload DivX HD files to my http server and stream them at 3.5mbit/s using the DivX Web Player browser plugin. Here my best videos filmed at LeWeb in 720p http://www.leweb.net/blog...... I'm using my Sanyo HD1000 since January 2008 and before I was using my Sony HC1 HDV camcorder. Sure the optics on your $4000 Canon is impressively awesome, may be the closest one can get affordably to Cinema HD kind of quality (cheaper than the Red Cam). Though I also think all those 720p and 1080p pocket cams have pretty good quality, as long as they have acceptable microphone quality, preferably external mini-jack microphone input. I'm also looking forward to HD Youtube on my HDTV. I can play it back right now with the Archos 5 Internet Tablet with Android which I think is the first pocketable..."
- Charbax
"Google just bought AdMob for $750 Million, they wouldn't have done it if they didn't believe they can make huge profits on Internet connected mobile phones. Selling unlocked $199 Nexus Ones, Google would not loose any money. My suggestion for subsidy by Google would only be by Google only giving that online rebate to long-time and very active Google users. Estimates I have seen show that Google makes more than $40 or $100 per very active user of its online services. That is just on basic ads. What you do is you divide Google's yearly revenue by the number of very active users. How you calculate that is just compare the number of times you use Google servers and load Google pages per day with the number per day of the average Google user."
- Charbax
"The Google SIM card will work accross all compatible networks. All of course only depending on the deals Google will sign with AT and T-Mobile and any other compatible HSDPA carriers in the world. My guess is Google will negociate huge bandwidth deals on 3G networks and give or sell that back to Android users. You could get 100mb free usage per month, enough for as much Google Voice, Gmail, web browsing (with easy disabling of images and other bandwidth intensive things), and with upgrades of 1GB for $10 or 5€, the extra GB which you can use anytime you want, so not a monthly fee. Unless you will want 5GB in the US or 10GB in Europe for $29 or 20€ that expires after 1 month and has to be renewed each month."
- Charbax
"Here's another good guess, it comes unlocked with a Google SIM Card, which provides unlimited free VOIP calls, Gmails, Gtalk, Gmaps and basic web browsing and other low bandwidth Android app pings. For higher bandwidth stuff, Google will partner with T-Mobile and AT and sell packages of Gygabytes to use either per month or to use whenever you want."
- Charbax
"Last I saw an isupply thing for bill of material on the iphone was below $150 for the basic lowest storage capacity model.. Google doesn't look for making profits on hardware, they will make their profits on ads over the several months or several years that the hardware is being used. So obviously Nexus One comes with 8GB built-in storage and with MicroSD for storage expansion."
- Charbax
"My guess is $199 in retail stores unlocked, but with rebates as much as $100 if you order using your Google Account and that Google determines you to be having a long enough and active enough Google account. For example, if you have something like at least 2 years old Google Account and you use many Google services, then Google should be providing you with the $100 online rebate. My guess is that the online rebate could either let you pay $100 less to buy it online, or it could provide you with $100 in credits that you could use on carriers for data access on free pre-paid SIM cards. My guess is T-Mobile and AT will provide 5GB data sim cards for $29 per month pre-paid only. So you could get a bit more than 3 months of that free from Google included in the $199 phone. Other places to use your $100 credit could be on any Google Checkout stores, on Google Android marketplace apps and services, on Google services such as Picasa, App Engine, Gmail and others."
- Charbax
"My guess is $199 in retail stores unlocked, but with rebates as much as $100 if you order using your Google Account and that Google determines you to be having a long enough and active enough Google account. For example, if you have something like at least 2 years old Google Account and you use many Google services, then Google should be providing you with the $100 online rebate. My guess is that the online rebate could either let you pay $100 less to buy it online, or it could provide you with $100 in credits that you could use on carriers for data access on free pre-paid SIM cards. My guess is T-Mobile and AT will provide 5GB data sim cards for $29 per month pre-paid only. So you could get a bit more than 3 months of that free from Google included in the $199 phone. Other places to use your $100 credit could be on any Google Checkout stores, on Google Android marketplace apps and services, on Google services such as Picasa, App Engine, Gmail and others."
- Charbax
Tease: Did Google responds to controversial results, what wave needs to win, and why Leo thinks it's ok for Google to own the world.
- Leo Laporte
http://mediafly.com/Browse... you should be able to download from there but it looks like they've only got the audio versions right now. they will eventually get the video versions (over the next week?) so you could subscribe there... or as leo said subscribe/download from the twit.tv website when the video goes live there (which will be soon also)
- Chris Heath
Super cool, how long does it take before the video is up on mediafly? Anyway that a version could be released within minutes after the live show?
- Charbax
doubt it charbax, they do some post editing to cut in the intros and the cold opens etc
- Chris Heath
It'd be cool also if mediafly could somehow let people stream on-demand not only in real-time but as a DVR, so people can watch it from the start if they tune in a half hour late
- Charbax
yeah that would be cool... they will have the live stream at least... that leo has said is in the works
- Chris Heath
Wish I had a better method to get TWiT videos on my TivoHD! Leo, you worked something out with Roku - talk to TiVo, please!
- David Gallo
It was a great show Leo. Cashmore is a keeper.
- Thom Kennon
I really don't understand what do people asking "should Google own the scans?" mean -- they want Google's data to be nationalized, or do they advocate preventing Google from acquiring the data in the first place? It's the same with people who are bitching that Google's book scans are too low quality. Google probably calculated the cost and profit of the whole exercise and are doing it in such way as to make the project possible at all. If you think the world needs better quality scans, go ahead and do it.
- Michal Tatarynowicz
hey colean good show grom a dreary rainy day in georgia
- daveccorey
Adi, there isn't an official wave, there are waves though... search for twig with:public there are a bunch of waves available to surf on with the twig tag (and the with:public attribute)
- Chris Heath
Jim, the deal was with MediaFly, and they have a deal with Roku. Making the deal with MediaFly is good for TWiT since MediaFly then goes and makes the deals with roku, and makes the apps for the blackberry, android, etc, and makes deals with xbox and ps3 etc... and leo only needs to deal with the mediafly people... anyways, just and fyi
- Chris Heath
Michal, i'm of the opinion that this endeavor should be undertaken by the library of congress or some other organization (with companies like google helping out) ... google asserting copyright on derivative (the scan) of a public domain work is just laughable and doesn't make any sense at all
- Chris Heath
Just finished listening to TWIG. IMHO: Leo please give us more objectivity. This is like a bible class - no questioning of whether God exists but just a mild debate of the literal nature of the message. Example: you gave Apple a harder time for snow leopard update than you did Chrome and all of the obvious issues it creates. No debate about the failing just mild justification for how...
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- Colin Bruce
Balance isn't always what's needed, IMHO you get farther sometimes by pushing in one direction and not being pulled in the opposite - TWiG is more technical and doesn't really seek to opine on the news (like TWiT) but explain it
- Chris Heath
"The Google device costs less than $100, it basically is made by Archos, with a 4.8" WVGA resistive touch screen, WIFi for free unlimited VOIP calls but even comes with built-in optional 3G modem sim card emplacement. You choose if you want to buy a SIM card from a provider or not. Without the 3G sim it can also do 3G calls through Bluetooth tethering and through a Mifi adapter. In certain countries that allow it, Google will even provide unlimited free VOIP calls on 3G and even free 3G data services through a Google sim card. If not free, then very cheap, $10 pays for 100 hours of Google Voice calling worldwide. So my expectation is Google gives unlimited free calling and monetizes it through ads in checking ones voice mail and through selling extra services like charging other carriers for connecting to Google Numbers unless that other carrier does a roaming agreement with Google for essensially free voice roaming. Most important thing is you have no contracts at all and the device..."
- Charbax
"You can edit stuff offline on Google Chrome OS as well. That's the feature of HTML5, all the apps work offline, but when you go online, you get the power of the cloud, you could for example encode a HD video in seconds instead of hours, you can also publish the final edit instantly in HD instead of having to upload after editing."
- Charbax
"You can store and cache files locally and view them offline as well. Loading a PDF is just as fast as a website, through Google's instant "view PDF as HTML" feature."
- Charbax
"A larger screen and keyboard maximum ads about 30 dollars to the cost even less. You can source a 15 inch screen on the open market for not much more than 30 dollars more than a 10 inch screen. And the larger keyboard is basically the same price. The only reason Intel+Microsoft "netbooks" are small, is cause Intel+Microsoft are so very scared to take away all of their existing profit margins from larger sized laptops."
- Charbax
"You can download Chromium OS today and install it on your current netbook using a USB stick. No problem. It just is, Google is planning for 50-100 dollar netbooks to be available with Chrome OS pre-installed. That will be better."
- Charbax
"It works offline. Read up on HTML5 specifications. Any web app with HTML5 offline capability such as email, documents, even photo and video editing will work fine for that."
- Charbax
"I'd like to test Chromium OS off of a USB stick and have it automatically update itself as updates are released until we all use it as the main OS when it's ready."
- Charbax
"Smaller screens are ok and they are cool too because the device is smaller. Though, ARM laptops can have 12", 13" and 15" screens too, since what you want is just a full screen full resolution web browser. Put the full Chrome browser within Android and you've got all of what most people need."
- Charbax