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Just realized today that life is C.R.U.D, Create, Read, Update, Delete
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That's deep.
- Charles Ju
Will FriendFeed Forever Be a Niche Service? - http://mashable.com/2008...
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I looked at the title and I just knew it was one of Steven's posts! :)
- Mark Dykeman
oh oh .. getting to predictable
- Steven Hodson
Liked the piece Steven. I think there's more mainstream potential than you do. Commented on the blog.
- Hutch Carpenter
Steven!!! Funny, I just did a Qik video about comment duplication and Kevin Fox stuff and it hits on this big time. FriendFeed needs a new UI. I keep trying to spread it and I keep getting pushback I never got with Twitter. The people who run FriendFeed aren't delivering noise-reducing tools, either, and insist that the noise is good (duplication from one micro-node of friends to another). I don't think they've done research with real users.
- Robert Scoble
FF should steal some ideas from Digg on commenting. It should also steal some of Digg's recommendation features. I think an interesting addition would be to have most popular threads and discussions for the global FF network, among other types of recommendations.
- Charles Ju
Fragmentation and duplication are serious ills of FF - oh how I wish we could tag a conversation so we could have unified conversations around a topic; but just think how LONG the comment thread would be...wow. Rich convo but too long?!
- Susan Beebe
Robert, you "don't think" Kevin's done user research, or you asked him and he told you he didn't? Kevin, what do you say?
- Jason Wehmhoener
I agree with Robert, Friendfeed needs a new UI if it wants to go mainstream. Maybe some sort of homepage like the new facebook profile. More noise-reductions tool would be good too.
- Alejandro
Well, considering most people I talk to still wont use a feed reader, you may be right. I think part of the mainstream problem is that there are so many different services out there and friendfeed can potentially pull all of it together for them. For me, I want to be able to read blog posts, shared google reader items, digg articles, etc right here, I mean heck - there's an awful lot of screen real estate there to the right-hand side....let's have some AJAX-y fetching going on of the actual content.
- Rob Neville
I think you're incorrect, Robert: mainstream people are not as interconnected as people are in early adopter communities. I think Kevin's got a point: let's say you remove the early adopter audience. Do you think one person's friends really cares what you, or me, or potentially 50 to 100 strangers think about something? They care about what they're friends are doing. Just look to real...
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- Mark Trapp
To my point, I really don't care that 500 other strangers shared a story, or that there were 80 comments with people I don't know talking about it. I care about the people I'm following. I want to have a discussion with people I care about, not strangers. I think the reshare and fragmentation facilitates that. If say, James Ferguson shared a story, I'm interested in that, because it...
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- Mark Trapp
well then we need a feature that locks out superconnectors who have, say, more than 50 friends. Or at least locks them out for, say, a day so that a micronode conversation can happen first.
- Robert Scoble
I was watching Michael Arington's Stanford Startup School presentation and I think a good point he made was that after your site gets to critical mass, the comments start to become trolly and the community loses its close connection. I can foresee this being a huge problem for FF as it grows.
- Charles Ju
Robert, maybe even if there was a way for the content producer to say "Do not allow friend of friend on this post." So, it becomes sorta like an on-demand private feed. You can still see it, but your like and your comment doesn't expose it to 15,000 other people. And of course, there'd be some visual indicator: could even use the lock icon like it does for full private feeds.
- Mark Trapp
Mark: point taken...I suppose what I was getting at, although not articulating quite well now that I read it again is that I think the key for taking FF beyond us abnormal folks is to make it a one-stop-shop to remove the confusion of so many social interactivity services and feed readers, etc. I think FF has the capacity to do that with some tweaks.
- Rob Neville
I agree with you Robert Neville; I apologize, my response was directed towards Robert Scoble. There's a few assumptions that I think we take for granted that's lost on most people: 1) privacy is an illusion, 2) we're all interconnected, 3) we spend an acceptably large amount of time online. No matter how true those sound to us, for most people, there's a lot of pushback. Which is why,...
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- Mark Trapp
I think Kevin (and FF as a whole) is correct in realizing the value of fragmented conversations. The issue here is that super-connectors with 20K subscribers are bound to expose those fragmented conversations (that otherwise would go unnoticed by the masses, as intended) quite often - all they need to do is 'Like' whatever random item that shows up in their feed. Not only that -...
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- Aviv
Best two lines in this conversation: "We're abnormal" [Mark Trapp] & "we need a feature that locks out superconnectors" [Robert Scoble]. The rest is just noise. :P
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
a more compelling UI would truly elevate FF...but then, that could be said about many Web apps
- .LAG liked that
on the contrary, i would much rather have a service that is up and running all the time than a fancy prettified site that is virtually useless. the past few days, facebook has crashed my browser SO many times, the only time i go on is via phone. myspace? every since their overhaul i NEVER go there anymore
- Mona Nomura
some of my favorite services are niche!
- Ross M Karchner
I actually like the FF interface in its current form. It's lightning fast ( damn facebook is getting irritatingly slower these days ) and its UI is simple much more Googlesque. It's quite unique that its social graph is not bi-directional (like many other social networks), and it gives me tons of useful links and is gradually becoming where i come for personalized information discovery....
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- Krishna Gade
Friendfeed will go mainstream when the applications that fuel it go mainstream (which might be a while). Whoever mentioned that people don't even get feed readers was right. Even among tech-savvy types (non-web), concepts like RSS and Social Bookmarking are still completely foreign.
- Steve Spalding
*sigh* niche tools are so important both digitally and in meatspace - why does everything need to become mainstream to be viewed as a success - the majority of businesses and products in the world would be considered niche and in aggregate far out weight the aggregate of what would be considered mainstream - no disrespect to you steve for writing this post but anytime i see "this will never be mainstream" sentiments i can't help but think that its a myopic view
- mike "glemak" dunn
FF depends on a whole lot of users using open services like Twitter Flickr etc. I know no one outside of tech who uses them. Most people are locked into the privacy world view and wouldn't dream of openly sharing their stuff. FF is SV/tech niche only. Sadly.........
- Sean Kelly
The well rounded website is the weakest specialist. Why try to be all things to all people with mediocre success?
- Geoff Schultz
The facebook re-design is the right step forward. I think its well thought out and is designed with scalability in mind.
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Agreed.
- Charles Ju
@nezzr it is interesting that you don't know about a car charger for cell phones. That is a must have a ccessory for the iPhone.
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i find that many peoples issues with the batteries in their devices would be solved if they would just charge them when they have an opportunity
- Kyle A Koch
When are they going to be powered by solar energy? 3rd, 4th generation?
- Fernando
I'm looking forward to iPods powered by kinetic energy. Like those watches that power themselves through everyday normal wear.I wonder if there is enough power in that to run the shuffle though...
- Charles Ju
Couldn't survive without my Belkin transmitter. Charges, mounts and transmits to fm.
- Gez
Microsoft Developing Zune Phone http://truemors.nowpublic.com/...
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It seems like Microsoft is always a year or two too late into new field this decade.
- Charles Ju
Maybe a year after the launch of the zune phone they will have an SDK? WHO knows..
- Akshay Dodeja
3yrs from now...zune launched app store!
- kamesh
@pop17 Those Playboy polls are insulting and demeaning. Most people put up with them for the publicity - good on you for protesting.
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Leo is also insulted that he wasn't selected to be on the list! :snickers to himself:
- Geoff Schultz
Just curious, I don't want to start a potentially ugly debate, but how exactly is it insulting? Thanks.
- Randy
Randy: It's not, not in general. But I can think of any number of reasons why an individual might *feel* insulted, and they're entitled to their feelings.
- Roger Benningfield
So it insulting and demeaning for playboy to post a head shot of Sarah Austin, for a poll and she wants it taken down. Fine it is her image and that is her right. Though is it also insulting and demeaning that Sarah spent todays entire episode of Pop17 playing the Wii fit girl video over and over? http://www.viddler.com/explore.... Will she pull down that episode if the Wii fit girl ask her too?
- Charles Dick
Um, settle down, Beavis. :) The "insulting and demeaning" thing is Leo's. I asked Sarah here on FF if she was offended by Playboy's offered opportunity, and she said she wasn't. It's possible that she's just not comfortable being put in a competitive position with these other women... not everyone loves a contest. Don't project Leo's bias on to her.
- Roger Benningfield
I'm happy whenever a decent guy defends women's rights to not be objectified. Go, Leo!
- kiwinerd
Yeah, I don't know the whole situation, but this is *Playboy*. I think we all know what their motives are. And in the interest of full disclosure, I'm a male, but I think it's all about the way in which it's presented. Some women may feel as though this is akin to walking down the street and running into a bunch of guys going ga-ga and saying, "Whip out dem tits baybee!" But unlike real life, if you don't like what you're seeing in the Internets, you can close the window/tab and ignore it.
- Randy
From what I understand and, have read quite a few of those women (if not all) were made aware by Playboy that their pictures and bios were going up in the poll. Although, apparently they weren't aware the winner may be asked to pose nude. Given that and, the fact a commenter here said she wasn't offended, I wonder why she wants it taken down?
- The Geek Media
I also can appreciate and respect her desire to not have her "brand" associated with that one. Insulting may be a little strong however. After all PB is not exactly triple X material.
- Robert
It's totally insulting. Playboy values women only for their looks. "Win" the poll and get an invite to pose nude. Yick. Would you ask Einstein to pose nude? I would hope that Sarah is more interested in being valued for what she knows than how she looks. If you think Playboy's vah vah voom attitude isn't demeaning to women you might want to examine your values.
- Leo Laporte
To tell you the truth, I hope that the winner chooses not to pose (especially if it's Brigitte, because I follow her video blog). Somehow something important would be lost IMHO, whether it's a perception of innocence on the part of her followers or something else. Somehow it seems wrong to me, it's hard to explain
- Thomas B
from NoiseRiver
"If you think Playboy's vah vah voom attitude isn't demeaning to women you might want to examine your values" Luv ya, Leo, but couldja show me your "I'm a middle-aged guy entitled to speak for women" certificate? I believe these legal adults made their own decisions - and some had "poser's remorse" afterwards (posus interruptus?)
- Dean Barnett
Well that's a good question. Did Playboy ask permission? They certainly don't have to - all the women are public figures. If Playboy did, that's great. If Sarah said yes and then regretted it, I can certainly understand, but at that point Playboy has no obligation to take it down.
- Leo Laporte
Yeah, wow Leo. Tone down the snark a bit. Oh, and I wouldn't ask Einstein to pose nude because 1) He's *dead*, and 2) He isn't sexy to me. It's as simple as that. Playboy isn't drugging up runaways on Sunset Boulevard, they're saying, "Hey, flat out--we think you're attractive and some people may want to see you naked. Cool? It's not? That's cool too."
- Randy
Unsure about the Playboy thing. After all, @shelisrael and @Scobleizer posed topless. Maybe if more male bloggers--never mind!
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Now seeing someone only for their looks is one thing. But this started based off their jobs.. AND, its saying that they have the brains to be in this position, and yet also have amazing looks. It's hardly insulting unless someone takes offense to what most would consider a compliment, or a dream offer.
- InsaneNinja
I agree with Leo. Its simply an opinion poll. The only thing they could possibly be asked to take down is the picture, and that was probably taken by their own photographers anyway, so no take-down there. The Funny part I think is what is it with Mothers taking their 8 year olds, to go to a signing for Playboy Models.... Please someone explain that. But besides that, it brings and interesting question of how companies deal with polls. Do you think its right for things like that, be put live without consent?
- Tyler (Chacha)
Well they are meant to be fun. But i was wondering if they ask for the Bloggers to agree to be on it or not? I don't know that.
- Jorge
I think that just the simple fact that they're objectifying these women can be construed to be both demeaning and insulting. However, on a personal basis, I wouldn't mind Playgirl putting my ugly mug on a poll. Further, since they are public figures, I don't think Playboy has to ask to do anything with their faces and bios.
- Charles Ju
Leo: I have so many problems with what you're saying that I scarcely know where to start. :) Saying that Playboy only values women for their looks is like saying that ESPN only values Kobe Bryant for his athleticism... um, yeah, so? If Einstein were hot and alive in 2008, we would have already seen him at least half-naked via Perez. And since when is life a series of binary options? Why can't a woman be valued for what she knows *and* how she looks? *And* how she can belch the Constitution's preamble?
- Roger Benningfield
Leo: But most of all... "examine your values"? That's an awfully high horse you've got there, Mr. Laporte. Beware the steeplechase. :)
- Roger Benningfield
Roger: I am kinda with you on that one. I mean if we can not value someone for their looks than Hollywood should just shut down, modeling should become illegal and teeth whitening the subject of tabloids. Also all of those old oil paintings in the Louvre? Confiscate them. I think people took their clothes off for a lot of them. PB is about as Americana as Elvis by many people's estimates. To be sure a lot of extreme adult stuff is distasteful to a majority of people. Not sure that I see this in that light.
- Robert
I don't much care for Playboy either, but seriously don't get why the intelligentsia is so anti-beauty. It's weird. I'd just reiterate what I said more extensively in this conversation: http://friendfeed.com/e... , which is: beauty is just as valid a way for the world to unfold as is anything else. Kinda agreeing with Roger and Robert here.
- Anthony Citrano
I'm an adult woman and a loyal member of the "TWiT army", and I back Leo strongly here. Leo's defence, on air and off, of women's and girls' rights - like the right to not be objectified - is way admirable. Leo Laporte is the Chief TWiT for a reason, and it's not just for his technical, journalistic, and teaching prowess and friendly demeanour. Leo's a fundamentally decent person, a role model, which is why it matters that he exerts leadership. Leo, you're my hero!
- kiwinerd
Well said @kiwinerd! I believe that is why so many good people are drawn to Leo.
- Jim Bednarz
I don't know why you people are criticizing Leo for openly protecting the liberties of another human being. It's pretty ridiculous that Leo has to defend his stance, you guys are immature and should be ashamed. Just think if your wife, gf, sister, or mother was put into a Playboy poll, would you be ok with that? If not, then you're a hypocrite.
- Charles Ju
Doesn't the poll just boil down to "Who would you rather see naked?" That seems like a pretty crude and immature question to me.
- Mark
So, Mark, once one "matures", they don't like to see girls naked? I'm also not getting what's "crude" about naked women. I dislike Playboy, too, but because of their unapologetic tack and ordinariness, not that they aspire to worship at the altar of women they find attractive.
- Anthony Citrano
Ask yourself why it's important to get female bloggers naked, and yet nearly everone wants to keep the male bloggers fully clothed. It doesn't strike you the least bit odd that only guys can be noteworthy simply for the work they do? I've been playing around on the net for 15 years, and I learned quickly not to let people know I was female. No one asks for pictures if he thinks you're a guy; it's what you say that's important. Reveal your gender, and the request for pictures -- clothed or sans -- begin.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I was trying to say that the concept of the poll, any kind of poll like this, seems just kind of stupid. I agree with those that say these kind of layouts make women objects - I think MiniMage makes this point very well. As a man, I know I have to fight the temptation to see women only in terms of their appearance. I think things like Playboy and this poll play to almost a caveman instinct. Is this really what being a man is all about - voting on which woman I would rather see naked?
- Mark
Examined values, don't think it is demeaning. We've seen the emails asking permission. They didn't even need to do that.
- matthew
I see what you mean Mark. I'm just saying I don't get why saying a woman is sexy/beautiful is objectifying. Pointing out one asset of a person in no way diminishes the others. I mean, if someone says to me "that's a great article you wrote" or "what a great picture you took", I don't stomp my feet and get indignant and whine, "is that all I am to you? just a string of words?! what about my heart, my soul, my cooking, my business skills??"
- Anthony Citrano
@MiniMage - the reason men ask for pictures of women is because men are far, far more visually motivated than women. Guys care what women look like more than women care what guys look like. I also disagree with your premise; women can be noteworthy simply for the work they do - plenty are. But if one is beautiful, I just don't see why that's a bad thing. The world gives everybody certain gifts - and beauty is no more or less a gift than athletic ability, speaking skills, or being a good programmer.
- Anthony Citrano
@Anthony Citrano (acitrano): The premise isn't mine; it's the message I get from Playboy. I get that guys have the visual "on" switch. Furthermore, I'd be lying if I claimed my eyes only looked at my beloved technology. However, I think this goes beyond (beneath?) "this blogger is an excellent combination of functionality and form." Can't women be beautiful without looking like they're about to cater to a fella's, ah, reproductive instinct?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
from NoiseRiver
@Mini - understood. And I'm not sticking up for them; as I said, I'm not a fan. Just was exploring our reaction to the broader issue of beauty. I think sometimes people have this knee-jerk reaction that's weirdly anti-beauty, or at least anti-beauty-appreciation. And you're right that they're not pitching the whole product, no. But they're in "entertainment," so what can we expect? :)
- Anthony Citrano
Interesting discussion on a provocative subject. The double standard in political correctness bothers me. PB bad but XYZ thing good. Males are visual I get that too and who would apologize for biology? My wife has had a net presence for years and she gets a lot of interesting emails to say the least, most are pretty poor attempts but some are rather funny and creative in a non-threatening sort of way. It is simply nature.
- Robert
Cool! My interview by Robert Scoble is on FastCompany.tv http://www.fastcompany.tv/video...
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Congratulations!
- Charles Ju
Bharti Group's Sunil Bharti Mittal on Lessons of Entrepreneurship and Leadership - http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/india...
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This man is one of the richest Indians in the world and is running the largest mobile telecom company in India.
- Akshay Dodeja
This guy seems like such a badass
- Charles Ju
Google's Android platform: not so open after all - http://arstechnica.com/news...
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"Non-disclosure agreements and selective access to development tools are hardly emblematic of an open ecosystem. Google has intentionally disadvantaged many developers and kept the broader Android community in the dark about the progress of the platform. Google's failure to fulfill its commitment to openness has eroded one of the principle differentiating factors that made Android a relevant alternative to Apple's iPhone operating system. If Google cannot change course, the lack of transparency in the development process will likely push disenfranchised developers towards other mobile platforms."
- Ionut
This is a shame. I hope Google sorts this out.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
Apple released its iPhone in2007, with no SDK whatsoever. No developers on the platform. Only in March 2008, it did so giving developers four months of development until the Apple App Store would be launched. Even then it was limited and not open to all. Google launched the preview release of their SDK in November 2007, which would allow developers approximately one year of development.
- Hayk H.
People have been pointing this out for a while :-) so I'm not sure why it's news *today.* Google is touting Android as an "open" platform, when the SDK isn't. The apps that Google writes for Android (like, for MAIL) also aren't open source. Not that making it open makes it an automatic win, but it does seem wrong to advertise it as "open open open" with an asterisk leading to some important fine print.
- Karim
*sdk not open. apps not open. batteries not included.
- Karim
VNC is now available for the iPhone - FREE! http://www.ustream.tv/flash...
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This is so totally awesome!
- Adam Turetzky
Really good stuff - nice free client ...
- Patrick Jordan
VNC!..No...must resist IPhone purchase *sigh*
- Mo Kargas
Now if we could only get SSH coded.
- Matt Devost
Very cool
- Eric Haber
from twhirl
SSH is included in jailbreak. No background services allowed in 2.0 though.
- Hao Chen
Amazon Kindle 2.0 Arriving Around October http://truemors.nowpublic.com/...
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Only in the US ? Too bad...
- Jean-François Amadei
from twhirl
Yes, why is there still no kindle in Europe?
- Benjamin Kohler
I love my Kindle, but it needs to open its platform.
- Charles Ju
At Tapulous - no. 1 iPhone game. Come watch live at http://qik.com/scobleizer
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Fun looking game... reminds me of 1980's Tempest arcade game
- Jim McCusker
The Apple App Store seems to have a popular ranking system. They just said they are the #9 overall app and #1 game.
- Jim McCusker
most downloaded free iPhone game.
- Andru Edwards
And no. 9 right now and rising.
- Robert Scoble
This Entitlement of Free Needs to Go Away ( http://mashable.com/2008... )
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Yes. At some point this will have to change. Not necessarily go away. Premium service models are always a good place to start. However, you need to offer some level of FREE in order to get users engaged and invested. :)
- Miguel23
I like microtransactions, as opposed to a full blown subscription model.
- Charles Ju
i have to concur, i should only pay when i'm fully engaged, although that doesn't help with reliable revenue flows for any of these companies
- Jeff Woelker
from twhirl
[Looks into crystal ball] I predict an ad slowdown from the recession will push content providers back to a Pay for Premium model. Which would be fine by me. I don't mind paying for services.
- Sprague D
The freemium model works but only for products where there is a real value proposition for the premium version. Flickr is a good example, where lots of us have paid to upgrade because we wanted more photo albums, etc. But it's really hard to do with services like Twitter, where heavy users use the same capabilities, just in higher volume. Sure, you could charge for the ability to follow...
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- Barry Graubart
from twhirl
Interesting article. I have worked for two different companies that embraced the walled garden and both those companies 'went free' to compete. It was also interesting that although those companies had subscriber fees, they also had ads.
- gregory
I'm someone who benefits from all of these great web services and wouldn't mind if I had to pay for some of them, (like Flickr before I paid for it) wanted me to host my own content. I have tons of web space that I'm not even using. I think I'm drifting from the point, sorry. The point is that I don't like monthly subscriptions but I'm happy paying for Flickr and Quicktime Pro. I don't mind microtransactions either. I'd probably pay for a big set of Friendfeed filter and thread management tools too.
- sergiooo
I remember writing on this topic a while ago...ah, here it is http://franticindustries.com/2007... ...and yeah, good article. Not an easy topic, though.
- Stan Schroeder
Seems like new Macbooks and Macbook Pros are coming around end of summer
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Hopefully...
- Charles Ju
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