"Two weeks ago, we launched version 2 of the FriendFeed API in beta. Since then, we've watched how developers have been using the API and collected a lot of their feedback. We've implemented some changes, and now, we're ready to remove the beta label!"
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
A two weeks beta in the 2.0 era sounds almost blasphem! Congrats!
- Simone Ruffilli
Congrats to Ben and Gary for all their hard work getting this out the door. And thanks to all the developers who have been sending us great feedback the past couple weeks.
- Bret Taylor
Can you remind me again where to find those stats?
- Brian Johns
Brian, go to "Me" link (http://friendfeed.com/brianjo...) which defaults to the Feed tab. Look at the sidebar on the right, below Discussion.
- Micah
0.75 (926/1226) - still relatively new here
- mikepk
I only see my stats for the last week (17/14 = 1.21) Please tell me your 670 number is for more than just a week!
- Brian Johns
1.44 (566/391) for brianjohns (after week tally you should see a comma then 'all time' count - I can see it on your page)
- Micah
OK, sorry. I'm a total dumbass. I stopped reading after the weekly totals...
- Brian Johns
3.74, which seems way off of everybody else's. I wonder what that says. I comment a lot more than I like.
- Cyrus Lendvay
FFers use FF with their own strategy or simply default tendencies. The ratio is an interesting snapshot of behaviour. Thanks for joining in everyone, hope more keep flowing in.
- Micah
from twhirl
0.66 - I tend to 'like' things without needing to comment further, I guess, and I notice I usually like the things upon which I comment. Well, frequently.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
.39 (2457/6242) I guess I don't comment much. I do 'like' a lot of things, it would seem.
- Bren
0.62 then again i have over 11,000 comments
- Cee Bee
1.23 (5287/4229) - I am put to shame by Cee Bee's participation, good grief!
- Lindsay
So far: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81 ... (if you average 1 comment per like, you'd be 1.0 ... if you're 0.xx you might herd content more than discuss ... if you're whole numbers above 1 you may not 'like' much or discuss plenty or both)
- Micah
InPerpetualMotion(Gina k), I really liked this 'Like' of yours (in a series of pics, so I flickr fav'd it): http://friendfeed.com/e... and commented. Thanks!
- Micah
.68 6986/10194 Someone wrote a great article on the comment-like ratio a few months ago. Search on FriendFeed is crashing on me... I'll try to get the link.
- Mitchell Tsai
Thanks Mitchell (btw, search crashing on me too - lots)
- Micah
1316 comments/20221 likes (0.06), according to Windows Calculator, although I probably screwed up.
- Tyson Key
A recent change in FF: now the comment count shows total number of comments (previously multiple comments in one thread only counted as one) http://friendfeed.com/e... so all the numbers above are from the old methodology....
- David HC Soul
My new ratio: 0.76 all time (old methodology .52).... this week 1.39
- David HC Soul
Looks like my ratio as flipped again (comments back to dominating again). Seems to match my own awareness I've lately been commenting without Liking (commenting is my inherent recognition of value to me and the additional Like is when it merits an extra bump to help discovery by others).
- Micah
Rick, you mean that face with glasses I photoshopped tint into with an apparently disembodied arm which is actually very much attached to my eldest son? It's mostly just me :)
- Micah
Thanks, Michael. Yes, you have a rising tide of comment percentage (oh, wow, you were one of the originals from January - cool!)
- Micah
Yeah, that's a decent upward rise in comments, Nicholas.
- Micah
.6 (6,000/10,000) 3rd update - Now it's time to flip this on its head. My goal is to have (16,000/16,000) next time I post here. Regardless of what happens, I'm just looking forward to the next 10,000 comments, likes, posts, and new relationships I make here. It's all good!
- Michael Fidler
1.76 (7539/4290) My commenting habits haven't chanced much, but it felt like I clicked Like a lot less, and this ratio confirms that for me.
- Micah
.82 as of right now. edit: on January 8th it was 0.39 -- when I saw that, I decided to make more of an effort to comment. When I hit 10k "likes" I decided I wouldn't "like" anything else until I also had 10k comments.
- Bren
Jimminy, I'm copyrighting every single number. It's kind of a honeypot ;) Actually, it was curiosity mostly, but I also hope to build a sampling (small and self-selecting as it may be) for anyone who might want to analyze it.
- Micah
Wow I didn't realize I was so out of whack!! 12.23 that's got to be a record (and I don't even import my feeds with the summary as a comment)!!
- Chris Myles
Thanks JA, Chris (wow, 12+ is unusual :), Serkan and Nine!
- Micah
Micah.. I told you I take my likes seriously; ). You *might* want to ask (in a separate post) what percentage of likes were used to "bookmark" a post or save it for later VS actually "liking it". I NEVER used like for that.. but I did use a private group that if filled with my own topics (and comments)..
- Chris Myles
Likes are down relative to comments, which matches my much lower frequency of liking. I'm a more selective liker than ever.
- Micah
I don't think I could argue that any particular kind of ratio is "best", because if Lurkers like to Lurk and cultivate (via Likes) and the Chatty-ites love to chat, to pump out much many more comments than Likes, each can be happy and make for a great social experience.
- Micah
wow, what a difference time makes, when i 1st posted on this thread, 6.43%, now = 1.25%, for a 5.18% difference, :o (and this is the earliest post to date i've recovered of my activity on ff)
- chaz2b
chaz, I think there's been a big fluctuation for most people (maybe not that much). This is the oldest post on which you commented that you've recovered?
- Micah
that was my third post... It's interesting to see how the number has changed. of course, I manipulated the number to a degree, because I stopped "liking" things for a while...
- Bren
Bren, the other thing that can seriously throw off someone's stats is a feed that upon each item it imports adds a comment automatically.
- Micah
true. that can seriously inflate comment stats, of course. Then you have someone like RAPatton, who posts a gazillion comments, in part because of his playlist posts where he will list each song in a separate comment. I found, after this post in fact, that I tended to "like" things much more frequently than comment on them, that I was lurking instead of participating. I have changed the way I use ff rather considerably, and I think for the better.
- Bren
In 4 days it will be 1 year since my first recorded stat here. My comments/like were almost a 1:1 ratio then. Now comments are almost double likes for me.
- Micah
75,415 comments/1,286 likes = 58.64 - i wish the auto inserted comments didn't get counted... the true number is probably much much close ot my number of likes
- Chris Heath
1.97%. thanks again micah, this has been a great metric to measure my first year here on ff. As the year went (this being the first record of me being here that i've found): , 6.43%:1.25%:1.97%
- chaz2b
Chris, Bren, thank you. And chaz2b, thank you too - glad it's a special marker for you. :)
- Micah
63.58 (97,534/1,534) -- interesting that my last three digits are the same there, eh? (note, i already posted a month or two ago when i first saw this thread)
- Chris Heath
Last year my comments were around 7000 and likes around 2500, for a ratio of 2.80. I consciously chose to do more liking over the last year. As of today my comments number 10,782 and likes number 7,666, for a ratio of 1.41.
- Stephen Mack
Jason, Stephen - cool. Thanks for keeping updated here. :)
- Micah
Okay, Micah. <----I had to resist the urge not to post that because I know it's going to up my comment count. ;)
- Jenny R
But how many of those primordial, high interest posts are still active. Uh huh. :)
- Micah
Thanks, Morton. BTW, when you posted in February, it was exactly 0.13 also.
- Micah
Jenny, resistance is futile; embrace the rising tide of comments.
- Micah
Comments are more difficult and time consuming than Likes. I'd be happy about a high comment:likes ratio except that many are surely imported from feeds, while every Like is manual.
- Mike Chelen
it has changed to 2.2256 now as Sep, 6 2010.Labor Day. :) I added the date for future references.
- ۳۰ مرغ Loves Y'ALLLLL
I had exactly a 2:1 ratio as previously reported [Aug 30, '09], now I am at: 1.7241:1 ratio. 6,067 comments to 3,519 likes.
- The Ghost of Library Past
Two years later and my ratio has climbed from 3.4 to 4.675. I've got a lot to say, apparently.
- Kevin Fox
Funnily, I didn't notice until after leaving that comment that when I reported my stat in 2009 I also followed it up with "I've got stuff to say." I didn't say it was *new* stuff...
- Kevin Fox
2.91; 6.43% (@ 2yrs ago) 2.33% (@ 1yr ago). for history's sake, this thread was started shortly after i found friendfeed, or friendfeed found me, so it holds a special place in my heart. thanks for keeping it around mr micah
- chaz2b
You're certainly welcome, chaz2b. In some way it feels like a living heirloom to me. :)
- Micah
3 (2.991) (and now the list has become too lengthy for me to track my progress, ;) [dumb me, i have a post not 10 lines ago in history, from 090711 2.91; 6.43% (@ 2yrs ago) 2.33% (@ 1yr ago) ;) ]
- chaz2b
Ha,ha, it is the idea of development of the guys in article, when they become residents of urbanized clusters of places in a high developed state. Hi, sofarsoShawn, I like ScFi, very much :-)Have a good Sunday!
- Slavomira Vladimirova
not this necessarily, but I was referring to my own spa "experience" above, annnnnd I wasn't even in Thailand etc! And that's not even the weirdest part, but I'm too proper to say
- The Real sofarsoShawn
from iPhone
Wait...we all knew +Louis Gray was with the Googs team already, no? Yes. :D Congratulations Louis!! All the best to you!!!
- The Real sofarsoShawn
You can be like the guy in the Dilbert comic. Instead of telling them to make it more "webbish", just tell the team to make it more "friendfeedish."
- Laura Norvig
Well congratulations to you!. All the very best from this died in the wool Mac Guy. I hope you can find the time, sometime, to make that My6Sense available in other apps and contexts outside the My6Sense app itself.
- JSLeFanu
Sounds like a great fit. Congratulations!
- Benjamin Golub
I might have to make Louis a t-shirt that says "Google Apps users are people too!" Do you think he would wear it to work?
- Skyler Call
Congratulations! wow, being all poker-faced about it last Tuesday... :)
- Tudor Bosman
Congrats, Louis. Though I suspect we should all be posting on Google+ now since you're the Product Marketing Manager for the Google+ team. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
congratulations Louis don't forget us mortals! we know you are a robot!
- testbeta
Congratulations! I'm looking forward to watching your progress there.
- Anne Bouey
Batuhan, I have a hard time imagining not using FriendFeed? But you've already seen me using it less, in favor of Google+. I think the best solution is for those of us interested in making the move to do so, and/or Google+ learning from the best FriendFeed has to offer.
- Louis Gray
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Congrats, Louis. Of course, this means even less sleep, right?
- Friar Will (:^)
Can I use your employee discount for some Android toys?
- Rodfather
most surprising thing for me is that TNW didn't wrote anything about this.
- batuhan icoz
Strange that I found out about this on Twitter and not G+ or FriendFeed... (Louis, you're now in my Google People circle. Just sayin'...)
- Dennis Jernberg
Congrats - but... but... - it means now I will ignore anything you say about google+ or it's perceived competitors... well, not ignore, but strongly pinch-of-salt it... Anyway, here's to you kicking ass there and making google+ better!!!
- Iphigenie
I LOVE this move. Congratulations. +1 to you!!
- Harold Cabezas
Louis, agree on your comment about Google+ and FF. G+ needs to learn from FF and hopefully everyone here will move over there... then I don't have to jump form one service to the other all the time. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
... there goes the neighborhood ...
- Laura Norvig
WHAT. I completely missed this. Processing...
- Josh Haley
posted as comment on blog: "Dude..... DUDE! Wow. Congrats! Next post has to be something negative about Google, so we know you're keeping it real. Kidding. You're the standard of keeping it real. All the others could learn a ton from watching you. Best of luck and please wear your FFundercats shirt to Google one day and send me a pic of you in it with some amazing Google backdrop. Your assignment is before you. Go and do. ;)"
- Josh Haley
http://twitter.com/niczak -- I tweet about the following: Programming, databases, parenting, living & enjoying life, and involvement in lots of local activities here in Northern Nevada.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
I have most of you (didn't have Valeria for some reason, but just added), mine is http://twitter.com/jungleg -- see you on the other side ;)
- Jorge Escobar
http://twitter.com/movieguyjon - I say weird shit, bitch at random times, and will say more weird shit. Occasionally I'll post fun things too, with a smidgeon of inane. :P
- Jonathan Hardesty
Pretty clever way to work in a plug for your timeline.. I like your style, Kol ;)
- Brad McCrorey
http://twitter.com/dennis_... (don't forget the underscore) What do I tweet about? Tech, fiction, art, music, politics, comics, and of course my fiction. Occasionally some Seattle or Bremerton related stuff. I also have TwitterFeed tweet my blogs, and I always tweet from Flickr.
- Dennis Jernberg
i post about film and television editing/post production, I'm a bit of a gadget nerd, and i like anything funny on the web. i love followers... http://twitter.com/toddzelin
- Todd Zelin
I'm sure you're all interesting but following 6,000 is my limit. ; )
- Liz
http://twitter.com/cgranier - I tweet about many things -usually tech-oriented, reply to everyone who @'s me, and have lately been posting a lot about #FreeMediaVE, bringing attention to the struggle against communism in Venezuela. Feel free to follow me. @ me for a quick follow back. No spammers please.
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
Thank you all. I hope at least some follow me back else I'll hit my follower limit soon. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/casschin - I mostly post up funny/odd web gems and nerdy tech news. Occasionally, I tweet what I eat.
- Cass
http://twitter.com/Felter i tweet about all, but i don't retweet my FF message. From twitter to FF only. if you follow me in FF, you can read my tweet.
- Felter Roberto
from twhirl
You know, you could have just started feeding in your tweets here and achieved the same, right? Or would that have been too subtle?
- Mr. Gunn
http://twitter.com/glitterpoet Don't mean to offend but it's usually not religious. Porn, drinking,dancing, music,makeup....I still do healing work. I just don't talk about it much anymore.
- Gabrielle
My twitter stream is the typical... random thought bubbles, food porn pics, and shared items relating to technology, politics, and $$$. http://twitter.com/sean808080 is where you find me. Oh and I like unicorns and fairy dust.
- sean808080
@fossilhuntress or fossilmaitress (I kept getting my email cracked and getting locked out hence the duplicate); all content, linked to digg, delicious... mostly science, paleo and random banter...
- Fossil Huntress
http://twitter.com/wangyip - mostly stuff from FF (tech, startups, web apps, sometimes things about math, medicine, fitness) - I've followed a few here on tech stuff (Edit: Thanks Kol for the thread)
- Wang Yip
http://twitter.com/eoghann... - I post sci-fi news (tv, movies, books or comics I'm probably a fan of it), some tech stuff and the occasional round of venting.
- Eoghann Irving
Huh. Turn on "Suggested Sites" and IE8 sends your queries, surfing data, IP address and clicks to MSFT. Read http://www.microsoft.com/windows... closely.
I couldn't figure out how they show the suggested sites when you visit https://ieonline.microsoft.com/ . They don't use cookies or user accounts.
- Ionut
There are certain scenarios that require user data to be sent in order to make the user experience better, as suggested by http://tinyurl.com/3yue6c. Which if you read closely, discloses that Google collects exactly the same information if the user installs Google Toolbar and opts in particular features.
- Franci Penov
Hi, Franci Penov! Remind me what part of MSFT you work at? I guess I thought that Google's disclosure at http://bit.ly/2Jiwrg with the big red capital letters and disclosure in the first sentence was more clear than MSFT's disclosure, which was buried deep in the IE8 privacy page.
- Matt Cutts
Doesn't it say that it is the search provider which collects this data, and not the browser? That means it's more equivalent to the third bullet on this page. http://www.google.com/intl...
- David Owens
9 processes are loaded with the browser in Windows (No doubt toolbar type tracking processes). You can turn them off but it's not as easy or obvious as recent efforts by Google and Yahoo to opt out.
- Charlie Anzman
hmm.. well you can find out this much information about visitors to your websites and blogs too. But if MSFT finds out this info, they're blasted?
- Imran Hussain
from feedalizr
Matt, I work on Windows Live Toolbar. :-) I have not seen the big red letter warning you point to, as I have not installed Google Toolbar (exactly because of the product I work on). But you could've just mention that you have a problem with the disclosure clarity. I'll make sure your feedback gets to the IE guys.
- Franci Penov
http://tinyurl.com/6q9vou - Chrome Privacy Policy. Not as obvious as Google Toolbar big red letter warning; I personally had to dig a little bit around before I found it. I'd say about as clear and discoverable as IE8 Privacy policy you complained about. :-)
- Franci Penov
Franci Penov, thanks for passing on my feedback to the IE guys. I don't think Google Chrome has anything to hide (e.g. it doesn't send your browsing info to Google as you surf the web). In fact, I just did a separate write-up on the communication between Chrome and Google. Read it at http://bit.ly/2jnBYZ
- Matt Cutts
Imran, I think it's fair to point out that IE8 gives users virtually no disclosure that their wholesale surfing data (including queries done on other search engines) will be sent to Microsoft if they turn on this innocent-sounding feature.
- Matt Cutts
@mattcutts the Google reputation manager? :)
- Mark Edmondson
She just called again to say that the hiring manager has been on spring break. That makes no sense to me since he specifically said in the interview that he'd get back to us within a week.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
So I guess I should just assume that I didn't get the job at this point, because that sounds mondo fishy.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Keep going, Alex. I know you will get one soon.
- Melanie Reed
No harm in checking back in to get an update...
- Cheryl Jones
Didn't know you were on the hunt Alex ... Good Luck!!
- Charlie Anzman
Three's not bad ... but not like the old days. Facebook's got their talent buy. Thinkin' they should set FF free. The ONLY social space I ever seriously missed
- Charlie Anzman
I knew you were in there Anne :) Hey Alix, CW, Rah and Eric ... would love for this place to be like it was when I used to check it before my e-mail. So where's Gray?? :)
- Charlie Anzman
"Microsoft Products" covers a broad spectrum, doesn't it?
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce, as does "Google Products" and "Apple Products". Streamliners use the best tools for the job, regardless of brand loyalty or coolness or "being new"
- Jesse Stay
Using Win 7 SP1 Beta right now ... Ugh ....
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie, Windows 7 isn't always the best tool for the job
- Jesse Stay
You want some stuff for early adopter to chew on, and not just another Twitter app, check out Microsoft Research. Their downloads are here: http://research.microsoft.com/apps...
- Eric
Eric, name one self-proclaimed "early adopter" that is using and actively promoting Microsoft products right now.
- Jesse Stay
Depends... Would you call yourself an 'early adopter' or an 'Early Adopter'. The capitalisation matters cause one uses things because they are useful, the other uses it because of what using it can bring them in terms of credibility.
- Johnny
If Microsoft had pushed out the Courier tablet, we'd all be raving hipsters today. I still weep that this product never got the chance to see the light of day.
- Mike Nayyar
Also, Microsoft Surface anyone? I get laughed at when I mention this but what if MS starts putting some of those features in the phone. I know there are things like the little cube etc you can put on your iphone but imagine laying your credit card on a WP7
- Johnny
maybe it would stay and grow like android did ipad is nowhere near chrome OS notebooks
- testbeta
Why? Couldn't ChromeOS and Android become the equivalents to Apple's Mac OS and iOS?
- Pablo Melchor
ChromeOS feels structurally cleaner, more futuristic. I mean, it's so... thin!
- Toph Tucker
Because ChromeOS has no purpose that isn't better served by Android (perhaps with a few mods to support a non-touch display).
- Paul Buchheit
also predicted: bear sh!ts in woods. even eric schmidt has said publicly that chromeOS was a side-bet against its own android. as for Mac OS and iOS, eventually we'll see a unified iOS on those, too.
- Patrick Keys
Yeah, I was thinking, "is this too obvious to even state?", but then I see people taking ChromeOS seriously, and Google is even shipping devices for some reason.
- Paul Buchheit
If Google were to take the "activity model" of Android and add it to Chrome as a way for different apps to interact/share data than from a developer perpective, there is not much value in using a proprietary Android dev model versus using HTML5++ (unless may be for games). So from a developer/programming model, Google would be better off killing Android - Chrome/ChromeOS is a better WebOS.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
ChromeOS = 1 Laptop Per Child / dumb terminals. If that works, then yes. If it sucks, then your OP is correct
- Johnny
That or like the dream of a lot of Apple users (iOS sitting on OSX so you can select either), ChromeOS could be the browser-based corporate solution for road warriors on the Android system.
- Johnny
If it has no purpose, then why does it have competition? It's true competition is from MeeGo/ JoliCloud/ Win-7 Basic/ Ubuntu. Its undoing could be Intel Atom vs. Dual Core ARM Cortex A9. So currently the purpose is to be the the Android equivalent for x86 machines.
- Umang Saini
I think that a lot of people are seeing the browser as the one and only future app platform, and given that, I think that Google is hoping the need for native apps will simply go away. They're in the position to influence that through Chrome (the browser). Chrome has been built to speed up overall market innovation. On the app side, they make sure that all "basics" can be done on the...
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- Meryn Stol
In the end, Google might not even care that much whether people use Chrome OS or not. Just like Amazon doesn't care if you use the Kindle (the hardware). Google just wants to be the full-service middle-man in your overall "computing" experience, just like Amazon wants to be the middle-man for books (or reading). But like Amazon ensures there's a superior end-user experience for their...
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- Meryn Stol
That the "simplified" user experience is qualitatively different than the "regular" or "traditional" user experience is a common mistake developer-in-a-bubble organizations make. It really is a matter of degree, not quality: there's no reason why, with minor modifications to the interface, certain devices couldn't just boot up Android's browser by default and give the same benefits...
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- Mark Trapp
To be honest, Chrome OS sounds more like the product Google wants rather than the product that's actually successful (Android), and that alone is its raison d'être.
- Mark Trapp
Whether they are merged or not, I am happy, as a consumer, that Google has taken the pains to put out two champion products - Android rocks (on the phone) and Chrome the browser rocks (can't talk about the OS since I don't have access to it yet). From the UX perspective, if they could make the COS work on tablets, it would be a bigger win than Android running on tablets.
- Suresh R Iyer
well, numbers will decide ;-) => millions of smartphones +tablets
- JacopoGio
Possible Google Strategy:- Own-up Java with Android, Own-up Linux further with Chrome OS.
- Vinod
If this is the Sun terminal revistited, then there is no reason to keep it around. I want my free laptop before it's all over though.
- Eric
Having used the closest (refined) product out there to it, Jolicloud, I have to say it's (VERY) fast, highly addictive...and actually a time saver for me. Agree the 'merger' is likely but Linux still has a huge base of developers that don't cost Google a dime. Think a better question (any predictions?) might be ... What's going to happen to Firefox? (and the huge Google infusion that goes along with it).
- Charlie Anzman
Mark - Yes, probably because it's Schmidt's long running wet dream, the network computer.
- PXLated
Chrome OS greatest achievement is bringing full web browser to ARM Processors, so we can have $99 ARM Powered laptops soon. Sure it would probably be possible to add Android functionality to Chrome OS (an extra icon in the task bar) and vice-versa add a Chrome browser icon in Android as well. The main thing is the web browser needs to be optimized for embedded Linux devices that are ARM Powered.
- Charbax
mind sharing a prediction as to when they kill friendfeed?
- солнышок
I think it'll kickstart HTML5 if anything. I don't think it'll outright die though. There will be a use for secure terminals and kiosks. For normal consumers, a cheaper netbook that only browses the web without really worrying about the OS is appealing.
- Rodfather
If I'm hearing Meryn correctly, I like the idea that Chrome could push things away from app-happy land and back into browser land. I think apps are kind of a novelty that needs to eventually go away or, at least, be reined in. I hate apps that don't do anything different than what a browser can do.
- Laura Norvig
hi paul, I'd like to ask you a couple of questions about your opinion for wired.it, may I have your contact by private message?
- Silvio Gulizia
ChromeOS to Android - Yes. Browser based OS in the mainstream long past overdue and really a reality today with Windows - just track my wife's usage. I could though plop a well configured ChromeOS notebook or tablet down in front of her and she wouldn't lose a beat and nor would probably about 75% of her world(friends, family, etc) and we geeks would love not to have to deal with more...
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- Brad Nickel
Laura, I think ChromeOS apps will push sites to go toward 'app-happy land' in the beginning. The current site will be the standard website where everything will work. Then an app-like site using HTML5 to prep for the mobile app. A UI that would work well with the common denominator of mobile devices, the browser.
- Rodfather
Charbax - Go to Walgreens(if in US) and you can buy a $99 ARM based Windows CE device by Sylvania today. It probably sucks, but they have em.
- Brad Nickel
What about Linux? Any predictions there? Figured I'd ask while everyone is feeling "predictive". Was an Ubuntu mention, but it seems like the Linux conversation has been muted lately.
- Liza + = ?
I would prefer Android to merged with ChromeOS, not the other way round
- Ian
@Paul Buchheit (TeamFrank), what you're failing to see is that Web 3.0 is the world trend now, is not something google suddenly invented. Also, the Chrome Web app store will be the one who defines if cOS is successful or not, just like in android. I think google has learned lots in this area, thanks to androids app marketplace. and remember even if you like it or not, web apps will...
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- manny
@Liza hollers, actually chromeOS is based on linux (i think ubuntu). So all progress made either way the other one will benefit from. Specially on the Kernel and web technologies.
- manny
Manny - didn't know that it was based on ubuntu. I love being called @liza hollers:)
- Liza + = ?
And I predict: You would have stayed at Google if you got it ;)
- HateBadDesign
I predict: you're just bitter about anything Google does at this point because Friendfeed has been such a colossal failure.
- xxdesmus
Wow, slashdot is still around? Is that where the crazy haters are coming from?
- Paul Buchheit
I am not really sure why there are two operating systems from Google in the first place. Has anybody supplied a rational explanation for the duplication of effort? Is this likely to be a costly mistake for Google?
- Brian Sullivan
the best combo would be for the android browser to continue to import features from chrome, including the ability to install a web app on an android device, have its icon show up in the apps list, etc.
- Karl Rosaen
any predictions on Yahoo? After their announcement about delicious I'm in the mood to hear a hideous and nasty prognosis.
- JSLeFanu
So everything in android runs on a java virtual machine, which in turn runs on linux. Chrome has a blazing fast conscript engine and it to runs on a modified linux. Chrome must also have a basic jvm to support java applets in the web. So realistically all we need is google to as the android jvm backbone into chrome os! Then we get super efficient chrome is baseline that can launch any...
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- Sean
from Android
it does seem pretty fast, and yes, faster than the others (including ie9), but imma no speed analyst. thanks for sharing
- chaz2b
I've been using the Firefox beta for a while now, and it does seem a lot faster than older versions.
- John (bird whisperer)
Finding it hardware dependent for the speed increase here (which would make sense) but any relatively recent Windows 7 PC is definitely significantly faster here. Still trying to figure out why I keep wandering over to RockMelt though :)
- Charlie Anzman
“This is crazy... my search hits from Google Images have octupled. For the past week, traffic searches on images is really high. Did Google restructure something in their image search algorithms?”
I've been trying to focus my SEO efforts on bringing quality not quantity... The image hits are really skewing the results... any ideas?
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
most likely they updated the images index, I wouldn't worry about reducing them, just make sure you take into account that they don't convert well :)
- mjc
Didn't want to say anything but since you started the room, I've been messing behind the scenes ... Of course, that was the 'free trial'
- Charlie Anzman
glad to hear - and still happy to help, charlie :)
- mjc
I'll point out I have no clue if that's what he was actually testing; I haven't had an issue with the importing of tweets, ever.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Come on Ben - spill the beans. New "Groups" on FB are basically Bret convincing Mark to bring FriendFeed functionality to Facebook. You can tell us. It will be our little secret.
- Nathan Chase
Nathan... or did Mark buy Bret (kinda, you know what i mean) to bring FriendFeed functionality to Facebook :)
- Johnny
Brian - No time to drill down tonight but would guess the move to 8.0 is significant. Chrome is still rendering 'heavy' web pages faster for me than Safari, IE9, Firefox 4 ... etc. We'll see.
- Charlie Anzman
Spent most of the day updating Windows Servers and boxes .... Microsoft is doing a solid job with Win 7 and 'future security' as well as web security initiatives. Tried Ubuntu (great for light resources) but Win 7 is pretty musch a win for the masses right now (once they have the budgets ... ??!!) Night guys
- Charlie Anzman
You sure it's just Boots that misses FriendFeed?
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
Josh - Think it's safe to day a lot of us miss a lot of the people and great conversations that took place right here ... and yes, I'm one of them. It was the only service I'd check before my e-mail. FB would be smart to split it off and promote it (quietly) separately. Doubt anyone would mind an ad or two?
- Charlie Anzman
Not at all, Charlie. There's plenty of room in the sidebar.
- Jack&Cleo
"Internet Explorer 9 beta boasts some impressive new features, Firefox 4 is just around the corner with the very cool tab-management feature, Panorama, and Chrome continues to impress with speed, stability, and syncability. We're wondering: Which browser do you prefer?"
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
Currently defaulting to Chrome in Win 7 AND Linux ... latest rev is a huge improvement in speeeeed
- Charlie Anzman
It's getting to the point where it pretty much doesn't matter if you're using something modern. Browsers, like OSes are becoming just a commodity.
- iTad
chrome has too many flaws to use primarily. its password management and ability to save/restore sessions are not up to par, changing directories to save files is unintuitive. I'm typing this in chrome right now, but i have firefox open too
- Richard Lawler
I dunno Richard, I've switched over and pretty much never looked back. Every once in a while I need to open up Firefox because firebug does something that web inspector doesn't, but that's becoming more and more rare for me.
- Eric Florenzano
If you don't use it a lot I'm sure it works fine, but I can't tweak the UI the way I want (not having vertical tabs is a sin) and when it crashes and loses my tabs there's no way to get them back.
- Richard Lawler
$1 a day to the college, grad school, wedding funds .. should cover about 1/2 or so :)
- Charlie Anzman
College, in progress - year three of five (but only four years of tuition; she does coops.) Wedding, I suppose. Grad school, they've been told, is on their nickel but we figure Sarah has a scheme she's going to lay on us senior year. Give us the strength not to fall for it!
- Auntie Buttinsky Botts
from iPhone
FWIW, not every baby is colicy. Akiva and Rochelle have had it REALLY tough. Avynn was difficult for maybe 3 months and then started sleeping 6 hours or so each night. That's one reason we never had another. Him being so good was just about all I could take! :)
- iTad
I heard that pets are just like children, so that probably helps, too.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Never been a fan of the mobile site. Though it's probably better than these apps.
- Kol Tregaskes
And yes still lurking, been a looong week (like the last few seem to have been too). Why so tired all the time? Must be because of the autumn? Back online over the weekend. Night all!
- Kol Tregaskes
Nice to see you, even if just lurking.
- Anne Bouey
I've heard nothing but rave reviews since it was previewed a few weeks ago: it's likely to get at least a few oscar nods. Can't wait to see it.
- Mark Trapp
I have no desire to see it, but I did dream of it last night and, I kid you not, in my dream the end of the movie was "... and he was next to die!"
- RAPatton
More like no one wants to stand in front of the bus carrying the trillion dollars this thing will make just by being about facebook.
- Geoff Schultz {TF}
Geoff, the fact that it will make more money than Jesus didn't stop the critics from panning Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen or Twilight.
- Mark Trapp
I don't really see a story about a social network as a big draw at all. Now FarmVille, that's different.
- Rodfather
I don't know, I think there is a segment of the population that is just in love with facebook as a brand. Truth is it's the same damn story thats been told 1,000 for pretty much every amazingly successful company.
- Geoff Schultz {TF}
I saw an interview with Mark Z. and he said he's seen it and it's almost all fiction. Not that that makes it a bad movie, but I thought it was interesting.
- Rochelle
Not surprised, I was expecting at least a 90%. They decided they -- Ben Mezrich, who embellishes stories very well, and Kevin Spacey - Trigger Street -- wanted to do this while making 21, so it went almost straight into production right there. Fincher and Reznor where big bonuses to me.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I didn't expect the movie to suck, but people are talking Oscar nominations. Surreal.
- Tudor Bosman
I just want to see it because it looks like the guys behind it told a solid story and it seems like it will be a good drama, even if it's not accurate at all. I definitely want to see this for the story. But I'm skeptical of the continued 100% rating and comparing it to Citizen Kane.
- Jonathan Hardesty
Yep. It could have been about MySpace. If a movie is getting good ratings, I want to see it.
- Rodfather
I figure it's about as close to the real thing as the movie-within-the-movie in Pee Wee's Big Adventure.
- Rob H.
For those who believe the stereotype, it will confirm it for them. For those who don't believe, it will piss them off but they will still see it so they know...
- Johnny
the next Citizen Kane? really? I don't know if I want to watch it...I'm on the fence it does look like a well done movie though...
- Anna Lynn M.
From the trailers I've seen they don't seem to be marketing this as a Facebook movie very much. I hadn't intended to see it at all, but the trailers have certainly piqued my curiosity.
- Kenton
...saw it on Friday. Two thumbs up. Surprisingly good.
- .LAG liked that
Just to be clear, it's not exactly about Facebook. More about the people who were involved at the beginning and their rather complex relationships.
- I like big Botts
I love Sorkin but I was kinda dreading this film when it was announced. So it yesterday and it's a solidly entertaining flick, if lacking some of the humor Sorkin is capable of leavening the drama with.
- Spidra Webster
Hello my incredibly supportive ffriends. My brother Frank is scheduled for another attempt at surgery tomorrow. He's to arrive at the hospital at 8:30am. If you pray, would you pray for Frank. If you think positive thoughts or send healing energy or positive vibes, please feel free to do any and/or all of those things as well.
I want to thank you all again (and again and again) for all your prayers for and support of Frank and of my family. We are all deeply touched and strengthened by your encouragement.
- Vicarbott
Hey Jim, please give my best to Frank and to your entire family. I'm glad to bear the "Team Frank" banner in my userID, but I have to tell you that, having been in a similar situation, I wish there was more that I could do right now. I can try to imagine how challenging this is for all of you, but as I say that I realize that only when we're "in it" do we truly understand. Please accept...
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- Mark J Colonel Colonic
TechCrunch sold for $25 million: the only conclusion that can be reached is that it only has one half the value of a long-dead social network (FriendFeed).