Am I Right or Not time: I was thinking about buying a piece of software for $250. Company's policy (and DRM) restricts it to 2 computers (I have 2 desktops + a laptop which I use regularly).
I wrote customer service twice, and was told, sorry, no exceptions... but you can put it on a USB drive to get around the restriction. So my question, before I include this company in a subsequent rant on my blog: am I being unreasonable in my request and my frustration? Related question: is this type of restriction typical? (two concurrent installs, no exceptions)
- Adam Lasnik
Yes, that's normal. For instance, with Microsoft Office, you can install it on a desktop system and a laptop, but you can't use it on both places at the same time.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
The dilemma is -- since this is an information retrieval / organizer type product -- I really want/need it on my home, work, and laptop computers. I apparently can't do this unless I pay for two licenses ($500 instead of $250) or use the lame workaround of a USB key, with which I risk losing my data if I don't back it up all the time. To clarify, I don't want to use the software concurrently, I want it *installed* concurrently (e.g., don't want to have to install/uninstall every day).
- Adam Lasnik
And torque, that's an interesting question. I think it's the principle even more than the money. I believe they're restricting it to two installs to prevent piracy, prevent people from sharing the software with a buddy and splitting the cost. I resent the lack of trust, especially after I wrote a nice note to customer service. I'm used to the honor system with software purchases, though admittedly, most of my purchases have been in the <$100 range the last years
- Adam Lasnik
I've also seen where you have to go through customer service, and if you pass the smell test, they'll give you another license (on the assumption, I guess, that people pirating the software will just bittorrent stuff and won't bother contacting customer support).
- Adam Lasnik
Careful with what you install on your work computer. Software companies frequently have different licensing for applications that are being used "for business."
- EricaJoy
I was actually thinking of a different but related issue, Erica, which is why I didn't plan on putting work-related stuff in the program... which also means that (in good faith) I'd be still using it for personal stuff.
- Adam Lasnik
I dunno, I've bought single licenses that allow for install on a second machine provided it's primarily used only by moi. So your scenario seems like that to me, just with the extra machine. And since you can't, without some really impressive juggling, use all three licenses at once, I don't fully understand why they want to make you buy two. I don't think they'd really be losing money by letting you do what you want.
- Jaemi Kehoe
And in the event that you ever had a FOURTH machine, you might be more likely to buy another license if you were pleased with them.
- Jaemi Kehoe
torque, I'm glad you like this conversation! I really do respect and appreciate the tough decisions that companies have to make when they've invested so much time and money into making a product that many might simply grab without paying for. In fact, while I'd typically shout "remove the DRM, dammit!", I then get jolted into reality when I read about how jerks have pirated even an amazing $20 game by an indie developer http://bit.ly/VQug :\.
- Adam Lasnik
If you do the install on a USB key, why do you have to keep the data on it? You weren't going to put the data on the flash drive if you installed the app on three different hard drives, were you? I would think something happening to the flash drive would lose that installation of the program, not the unique data, itself. Seems to me the solution would be to buy a new USB drive and do a new install.
- MiniMage
Ah, very good point, MiniMage! Hadn't thought of that (I planned to keep the data files on Dropbox). Still, though, would be kinda a pain to always carry around the USB stick, not to mention be constantly plugging it in and out, no?
- Adam Lasnik
Yes, that would be a pain. Do they license server installs? Do you have a server that could serve apps?
- MiniMage
How on earth is a server going to help if the laptop is remote??? And I feel you Adam.
- Roberto Bonini
If the licensing isn't differentiated, a server install could serve two computers at work, and the standalone at home could be the second install. Now, if two computers are remote, I suppose it won't help much; it'd probably be slow as molasses via VPN. Of course, I'm speculating about stuff I don't really know about; I'm just a desktop tech. I use server apps; I don't get to install/support them. That privilege is reserved for people other organizations have trained. :(
- MiniMage
Licenses for similar software are similarly restrictive. The one for OneNote for example can go on 3 computers if you have the Student Edition, right? Lot of software isn't that upfront either; you find out when you activate that you can't take it with you. Honestly, i was happy to see my $250 got me two licenses: that's just 125/install instead of 250/install... TheBrain is well worth it & they've seen there product stolen already so...
- Ruud Hein
It's interesting to ponder how the situation might be different if the software in question were a service (web-based or otherwise). Granted, you'd probably be paying per unit time, but there would be no question of "which" machine it was installed on -- probably just a prohibition on running it simultaneously on a single account. I've never understood why more desktop software vendors don't do that; perhaps just that people are used to paying a single fee for installed software?
- Joel Webber
Ruud, I think that that model isn't going to survive. Young people today aren't (IMHO) buying office, buying PersonalBrain. They're doing everything online, where there are monthly fees (use anywhere) or no fees (directly or indirectly advertiser sponsored). I'm 37, and in all my geekiness and all my software/service experiences, I can't recall a single instance of a program that has such strictly limited installs. iTunes/Rhapsody songs are... 3 or 5 computers? Even even that DRM seems on the way out.
- Adam Lasnik
I just don't think people, especially young people, can even fathom pay-by-install. And Joel, as for pay-per-use-hour, that's an intriguing idea, but IMHO also doomed to failure. For many products, the more use = the more one sees the value = the more evangelism. Pay-by-hour seems like such a relic of the time when computing power / bandwidth was crazy-expensive. In today's multi-tasking world, it'd also be infuriating (how many of us dedicate 100% of our personal CPUs to one web/software app at a time? :P
- Adam Lasnik
Agreed: I think the software-sales model is broke - dot. Subscription is the way to go although in the Evernote forum some discuss how *that* keeps them hostage... I think PB should let me do with the install as I wish -- but failing that I do think they have the right ... and that it's worth it.
- Ruud Hein
I can get two hamburgers for $2.50, should I steal a third one? Seriously Adam, it doesn't really matter if the model is broken or not, if software licensing has a future or not, those are just the restrictions that they have. It's how they have built their licensing system (and software costs money to make :-), especially software that is not used by gazillions of people). Going from...
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- John Mueller
John, normally I respect your brilliance, but I gotta heartily disagree with your analogies and reasoning here. 1) Hamburgers cost per item. Software does not. It would not cost the company any more if I used it on 3 computers instead of 2. In fact, their revenue would increase by possibly $250 ;). 2) I wasn't advocating a move from $ to ads. As I noted, I'm quite happy to pay for software and have done so frequently. 3) I see absolutely no relationship between size of a company and licensing model.
- Adam Lasnik
Actually, hamburgers cost close to nothing per item; It does however cost quite a bit to be able to sell them to you. The thing is, these companies have built their business on being able to sell you a license for a certain number of computers. You might not like that model, but that's the way they are calculating costs, the way they're paying for overhead and the ability to provide the...
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- John Mueller
I used to run a software company so it's something I spent a lot of time on :-). Changing a licensing model is a lot of work and you can't just say $X/2PCs/user is unfair compared to $Y/user or $Z/year. In the end, the overhead (of creating, distributing & supporting the software) has to be paid for just the same -- how it's split up is (simplified) based on marketing. Marketing changes...
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- John Mueller
To clarify, John, while I have to admit to some temptation to bittorrenting in this case, I wasn't seriously planning (and do not plan) to violate the license agreement. Rather, I plan on not further evaluating the software and simply finding an alternative. And despite your arguments, I still think it's a lousy marketing decision, a lousy way to calculate costs. I mean, they could say "People should pay based upon the sum of the letters in their last name" and I'd see that as only slightly less arbitrary.
- Adam Lasnik
This sort of thing makes my head hurt. There was a time, until recently, where My husband and I each had a desktop and a laptop. We like to travel, so we needed some software on our laptops. It was frustrating to run into this situation where we'd have the software on one laptop and one desktop. That meant a lot of switching seats in the office and travel sucked because we'd have to trade off laptop tops to finish our projects. This is one of the reasons we're trending more open source and cloud for our biz
- Anika
I agree, Adam, in your case it sucks and to be honest, in your situation I'd think twice about it too. I don't think there is ever a perfect licensing model. When we sold software for $2000/user, we'd get people who say they're only working part-time and couldn't we give them a discount, etc. Sure, if you're working 30% it seems really unfair to pay the same as someone who's working...
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- John Mueller
I just noticed sharing files through dropbox is not working any more. I used to share free version files through dropbox, but recently found that all the links to pages drag-and-dropped into the app won't save the URL as it used to. And it won't even let you copy-paste the link into the Notes – whatever you posted disappears in a matter of seconds if you're adding it on one computer (at work) and forgot to close it leaving home. Their licensing really sucks.
- earlyadopter
"As a devoted FriendFeed user, I have tried to convince all of my friends and family to join the site, but a handful of them never quite got their accounts set up properly. With our new Recommend friends feature, I can fix their FriendFeed experience by recommending subscriptions to them." Try it out at http://friendfeed.com/friends...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
What am I supposed to get when I click the 'recommend friends' link on someone's pop-up? Currently, the popup just goes away and I don't get directed anywhere else.
- FFing Enigma
Fred: yah, unfortunately, you can only recommend people who you are subscribed you and who are also subscribed back to you.
- Bret Taylor
Mark, I didn't submit a bug report since what is supposed to happen wasn't actually spelled out on the blog post or here; this might be the intended functionality... I hope not, but it's possible.
- FFing Enigma
Tina: it is supposed to pop up a dialog. Sorry for the trouble - we will look into it.
- Bret Taylor
At first I did not understand this, but now that I am checking it out, it is brilliant and addresses much of what we have complained about. NOW what will we complain about?
- Liza + = ?
Just to confirm Bret, the first image in the blog post is what the pop up is supposed to look like, right? Because that's nothing like what the ff.com/recommend page looks like....
- FFing Enigma
I notice that new subscriptions are automatically added to one's home feed. I consider that kind of a bug.
- Meryn Stol
Tina: yes, that is correct. The http://friendfeed.com/friends... page is just a list of people that we think could use some friend recommendations since they have few subscriptions. If you click on any of the "Recommend" links on that page, you will see the same, standard "Recommend friends" dialog.
- Bret Taylor
Where would we find recommendations that others suggest to us?
- Fred Yankowski
@Bret, who receive the recommandation see also who is the recommender?
- Roberto
Fred: You will receive an email as well as a notification on the top of your feed.
- Ross Miller
Roberto: yes, they see who recommended
- Bret Taylor
Bret, if I recommend friends to people who haven't signed in for a long time, will they get email? A lot of my bored friends are not active FF users I think. (quite logical)
- Meryn Stol
Not getting the pop-over when I click 'recommend' on the friendfeed.com/friends/recommend page either... FFox 3.0.12 if it's relevant.
- FFing Enigma
and can I see who has accepted my recommendation?
- Roberto
Roberto: You won't be notified if they accept/deny as the recommender.
- Ross Miller
Ross: Ah, it just appeared on my feed. Cool. (And thanks Meryn)
- Fred Yankowski
Meryn: yes, they will get an email with your recommendations
- Bret Taylor
from email
Bret, I accidently just received an email with previous recommendations. I had already viewed them through the web-interface. But indeed, it's there. Email looks good too, as I expected of course. :)
- Meryn Stol
hey Robert Scoble....I have a trade proposal....you send my name to all your friends...i send your name to all of my friends for the rest of my life....
- Bob DeMarco
I would like that deal, too, Scoble. I like this a lot.
- Ben Hanten
Bob: I charge $1 per friend. :-) just kidding, but the UI makes it so hard to send you to more than a few people.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Bret: You guys rock! This is so much better than FollowFriday, which I recommended just a while back. Now, I'm waiting for some recommendation emails! :)
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
If there’s something about friends and family not having their account set up properly, I’d prefer a way to recommend them the streams they forgot to add. For example, I could tell them “You forgot to add your Digg stream and your fourth and eight blog. Here’s the link.” Then he could just click the recommendation and had it set up easily.
- Natsuki Seika
As I have lots of subscriptions the pop-up window is *really* slow and always has been since the new UI (same thing for amending friends lists). :-( I like the feature though, so I could make a new friends list of my most recommended users and use that each time for each user?
- Kol Tregaskes
"Facebook’s high-profile CTO Bret Taylor is leaving the Silicon Valley social networking giant later this summer, with future plans to work on an undetermined start-up." -- http://allthingsd.com/2012061...
"Taylor, who had previously worked at Google, has a strong start-up background. He left the search giant to found FriendFeed, a once-popular social aggregator. FriendFeed was acquired by Facebook in 2009."
- Ken Sheppardson
"I wanted to let you all know that I'll be leaving Facebook later this summer. I'm sad to be leaving, but I'm excited to be starting a company with my friend Kevin Gibbs." -- BT
- Ken Sheppardson
He should 'put the FriendFeed band back together'
- Johnny
from iPhone
Maybe he and Paul could apply to Y Combinitor or something.
- Ken Sheppardson
Isn't there a website where you can submit pictures of photo-stealers? This should totally be submitted. || Edit: Found it. http://thisisphotobomb.com/
- Miss Elle
...it was only after Chipper received his prints from the local PhotoMat that he realized two humans had snuck into the background of his lakeview self-portrait.
- .LAG liked that
We have received numerous reports of excessive FriendFeed posts showing up in Facebook this evening. While we are not 100% sure, it appears to be an issue on Facebook's end due to ignoring application settings. We have disabled all FriendFeed updates to Facebook until we are sure the problem is resolved.
See http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... for more information - it seems to also have impacted Twitter's Facebook app. Again, we are not sure if it is a problem on our end or not, but we are investigating now.
- Bret Taylor
No problem, if I knew it was on your end, I wouldn't have cared, but thanks for letting me know about the situation. I was confused because it happened right as I was trying out a new twitter game. This was compounded by the fact that the game has no controls for turning off public messages. I'll bet they plan to add them later, but right now they want everyone to hear about it. It’s a...
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- Michael Fidler
So, is it fixed?Every tweet, every everything is showing up as individual news feed posts for all my friends, this is too much and I'm likely to piss them all off. Options ... 1.Stop tweeting etc. 2.Ditch the FF Facebook application. Hmmm, it's a no brainer. Anyone got any updates on this?
- Michael M Bailey
It looks like people are solving it, so hopefully I'm not spoiling it: Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Tab, Return. It's a variation of the Konami code (which nets you 30 lives in Contra) adapted for the keyboard. Figured out the first part from Paul's clue, but it took going through the minified Javascript to figure out a) that they didn't use the original Konami code like Google does and b) what they used for keyboard equivalents for "select" and "start."
- Mark Trapp
AWESOME! but didn't the code net you 99 lives?
- Keith - @tsudo
In Contra it was 30; not sure what it was in other Konami games.
- Mark Trapp
hahah man that's intense. i guess they know their audience :)
- Frankie Warren
The Legend of the Mystical Ninja: U U D D L-Button R-Button L-Button R-Button Start. 30 lives. I'll never forget that ;p (there also was that B A B A variation too..) GG Mark.
- Zu from AOD
"Two weeks ago, we launched version 2 of the FriendFeed API in beta. Since then, we've watched how developers have been using the API and collected a lot of their feedback. We've implemented some changes, and now, we're ready to remove the beta label!"
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
A two weeks beta in the 2.0 era sounds almost blasphem! Congrats!
- Simone Ruffilli
Congrats to Ben and Gary for all their hard work getting this out the door. And thanks to all the developers who have been sending us great feedback the past couple weeks.
- Bret Taylor
Dis why Firefox is my default browser. Well, dat an' Chrome borks my jquery sliders in Lion. But mos'ly iz cuz ov da kittehs.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
from iPhone
Yay! So much FF love! This is Greta just before she went to her new home. We dressed her up in her Christmas best! ;) She is doing well. I will do a update after Christmas.
- Rachel Lea Fox
Beautiful eyes on that there kitty cat.
- Louis Gray
Ha,ha, it is the idea of development of the guys in article, when they become residents of urbanized clusters of places in a high developed state. Hi, sofarsoShawn, I like ScFi, very much :-)Have a good Sunday!
- Slavomira
not this necessarily, but I was referring to my own spa "experience" above, annnnnd I wasn't even in Thailand etc! And that's not even the weirdest part, but I'm too proper to say
- sofarsoShawn
from iPhone
Wait...we all knew +Louis Gray was with the Googs team already, no? Yes. :D Congratulations Louis!! All the best to you!!!
- sofarsoShawn
You can be like the guy in the Dilbert comic. Instead of telling them to make it more "webbish", just tell the team to make it more "friendfeedish."
- Laura Norvig
Well congratulations to you!. All the very best from this died in the wool Mac Guy. I hope you can find the time, sometime, to make that My6Sense available in other apps and contexts outside the My6Sense app itself.
- JSLeFanu
Sounds like a great fit. Congratulations!
- Benjamin Golub
I might have to make Louis a t-shirt that says "Google Apps users are people too!" Do you think he would wear it to work?
- Skyler Call
Congratulations! wow, being all poker-faced about it last Tuesday... :)
- Tudor Bosman
Congrats, Louis. Though I suspect we should all be posting on Google+ now since you're the Product Marketing Manager for the Google+ team. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
congratulations Louis don't forget us mortals! we know you are a robot!
- testbeta
Congratulations! I'm looking forward to watching your progress there.
- Anne Bouey
Batuhan, I have a hard time imagining not using FriendFeed? But you've already seen me using it less, in favor of Google+. I think the best solution is for those of us interested in making the move to do so, and/or Google+ learning from the best FriendFeed has to offer.
- Louis Gray
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Congrats, Louis. Of course, this means even less sleep, right?
- Friar Will
Can I use your employee discount for some Android toys?
- Rodfather
most surprising thing for me is that TNW didn't wrote anything about this.
- batuhan icoz
Strange that I found out about this on Twitter and not G+ or FriendFeed... (Louis, you're now in my Google People circle. Just sayin'...)
- Dennis Jernberg
Congrats - but... but... - it means now I will ignore anything you say about google+ or it's perceived competitors... well, not ignore, but strongly pinch-of-salt it... Anyway, here's to you kicking ass there and making google+ better!!!
- Iphigenie
I LOVE this move. Congratulations. +1 to you!!
- Harold Cabezas
Louis, agree on your comment about Google+ and FF. G+ needs to learn from FF and hopefully everyone here will move over there... then I don't have to jump form one service to the other all the time. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
... there goes the neighborhood ...
- Laura Norvig
WHAT. I completely missed this. Processing...
- Josh Haley
posted as comment on blog: "Dude..... DUDE! Wow. Congrats! Next post has to be something negative about Google, so we know you're keeping it real. Kidding. You're the standard of keeping it real. All the others could learn a ton from watching you. Best of luck and please wear your FFundercats shirt to Google one day and send me a pic of you in it with some amazing Google backdrop. Your assignment is before you. Go and do. ;)"
- Josh Haley
Just remember- this is not a competition, just an exhibition. @Kyle - ever been to Culver, IN? Grew up there before moving to Chicago.
- michael sean wright
Nice: I have been to Culver! You are in Chicago now? I will have to let you know next time I am up your way.
- Kyle Lacy
Not sure about that, but: "Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future and time future contained in time past. If all time is eternally present all time is unredeemable." - Swatch, Always Now, 1997 (and yes my lunch, at 1:42am local, is consisting of a double martini so that actually makes some sense to me)
- David HC Soul
are you saying that time "now" has no meaning? i (obv.) reject this but toast your willingness to acknowledge the wisdom of a dean martin martini. now, for you sir, on to the work of most importance. focus on the permanent.
- michael sean wright
Well, I will grant that the sentiment of French Marshall Lyautey has some merit (he asked his gardener to plant a tree and when the gardener objected that the tree was slow growing and would not reach maturity for 100 years the Marshall was said to have replied, 'In that case, there is no time to lose; plant it this afternoon!').... So I am off to plant some trees....
- David HC Soul
you, i like. and will point you to Hermann Hesse before he won the Nobel Prize for 'The Glass Bead Game' in which he wrote in in the idyllic poem "Hours in the Garden" (1936)- 'I hear music and see men of the past and future. I see wise men and poets and scholars and artists harmoniously building the hundred-gated cathedral of the Mind." - (forword to Glass Bead Game by by Hermann Hesse by Theodore Ziolkowski.)
- michael sean wright
Thanks for the pointer - I'll go search it out.
- David HC Soul
I hope so. The thought is consuming much of my waking hours these days.... But I have to be up in 5 hours... so will have to return to the 'nightcrew' tomorrow night. One thing about time is it does seem to age one....
- David HC Soul
sleep perchance to dream, a wise man said. Billy Shakespeare.
- michael sean wright
Then pause now to ask yourself the following question: "Am I dreaming or awake, right now?"
- David HC Soul
man, most of the ppl who liked this i haven't seen on FF in ages. maybe i'm doing it wrong.
- Unholy Joe Silence
for most of us we met here, stayed loyal here but the sun set long ago : ( what a rush of a time that was! now we find ourselves over at g+ telling stories of the good ol' days!
- michael sean wright
Meme-inless no more! always been an interesting world with you!
- michael sean wright
oh and... i do have some google+ invites left - email me nicefishfilms at g ma i l dot co m
- michael sean wright
I'm curious now - did google + make you come back to FF? Because that is v interesting.
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
yes, we did the podcast when ff was acquired by the book of face.. watched them absorb the real-time elements and i check in from time to time usually through this post as it brings back very fond memories. google + reminds me of the early days of ff - haven't felt that way about any of the social nets that have come since the facedbooked swallow up. heaven knows we've been on them all and they seem so ancient now -- quora anyone? google got it right with +. think it marks the next era for them.
- michael sean wright
Google + right now does remind me of the FF glory days and I am curious to see what happens next.
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Alex is just balancing his brother. BY BEING A HATER WITH HIS HATER PANTS
- Mike Nayyar
I hope the g+ talk dies down on g+. Right now it just feels like a giant tech blog on how to g+
- Tamara
Where do you expect people to talk about Google+?
- Rochelle
I thought that the first rule of Google+ was...
- Julian
Honestly, I think that's what G+ needs during its Field Test. Once they have a bookmarklet, conversations will turn away from trying to sneak people in.
- Curtis (a) Jackson
I remember when Friendfeed used to launch new features, all people would talk about were the new features. happens with everything.
- chrisofspades
I'm not hating on Google+, heh...I'm just making an observation.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Just wait til the honeymoon phase is over.
- imabonehead
I'm talking more about other stuff than I am about G+ over there.
- DAMMIT, MR. NOODLE
It just depends on your friends, but yes the biggest buzz seems to be about Google+. Had to put someone out of circles and block since he was just self promoting and touting google+ with a developer on every post. It's about everyone and not just about the "me" so to speak.
- James Stratford
Hey now! We were talking about stuff.
- Joe
from YouFeed
I posted a picture of my bike. So there.
- Joe
from YouFeed
*back from G+* All the talking about Google+ there is starting to die down, at least relatively. Still, it's been only a few days and we're still figuring out what to do. Most of my G+ talk is in the comments on other people's posts. And people are talking about FF there too...
- Dennis Jernberg
Err, really think I am a fake account, Joe? I was live in a G+ hangout, so that must count for something.
- Liza + = ?
So you say. As I am using the mobile app. for + I cannot confirm nor refute your claim Liza.
- Joe
from YouFeed
Further proof is needed I think.
- Joe
from YouFeed
LMAO Joe, she's a real girl, she was commenting on my headboard earlier.
- Jimminy
o' why did you have this conversation at google+? theres so many comments i want to plus in this thread
- chaz2b
No, I can see lots of different topics being discussed on Google+ now.
- Kol Tregaskes
But remember all we talked about on FF at first was FF
- Leo Laporte
As cools as G+ is or could be I still think FF is better for conversations. You see a lot more conversation per screen area on FF. G+ has a lot of white space and space used for comments and meta data.
- Todd Hoff
Headboard Jim? What are you two doing in bed together.......?
- Joe
from YouFeed
I saw someone mention that Google+ is the return of Friendfeed. Which is funny, since it never went anywhere. (I get the sentiment but it's still inaccurate.)
- Curtis (a) Jackson
and here I thought you were knocking boots Jim. (Disappointed)
- Joe
from YouFeed
beersage, that seems like an unfriendly comment. is it?
- edythe
Yes we are, @beersage, and you bumped the post so everyone can look at us some more. Thanks. We love the attention. BTW, @beersage, you may not be aware but the reason this is "news" here is because we met through Friend Feed. Those photos are from the first time we met IRL.
- ·[▪_▪]·
Is it just me, or are all baby clothes in either FriendFeed or Twitter colors? I was noticing in my baby boy's clothes today that I had half of web 2.0 in his wardrobe.
- Jesse Stay
yeah it is all nice and happy now - give it 12 months and the inner demon comes out... Nice time though, when they are small and cute :) Enjoy it.
- Dave Gray
The best part at this age is when they fall asleep on your chest.
- Russellreno
Looks like Sarah is trying to push Matt away... saying "Hey dude! We are so out of the womb! Shove over!!"
- Yolanda
Huh. Turn on "Suggested Sites" and IE8 sends your queries, surfing data, IP address and clicks to MSFT. Read http://www.microsoft.com/windows... closely.
I couldn't figure out how they show the suggested sites when you visit https://ieonline.microsoft.com/ . They don't use cookies or user accounts.
- Ionut
There are certain scenarios that require user data to be sent in order to make the user experience better, as suggested by http://tinyurl.com/3yue6c. Which if you read closely, discloses that Google collects exactly the same information if the user installs Google Toolbar and opts in particular features.
- Franci Penov
Hi, Franci Penov! Remind me what part of MSFT you work at? I guess I thought that Google's disclosure at http://bit.ly/2Jiwrg with the big red capital letters and disclosure in the first sentence was more clear than MSFT's disclosure, which was buried deep in the IE8 privacy page.
- Matt Cutts
9 processes are loaded with the browser in Windows (No doubt toolbar type tracking processes). You can turn them off but it's not as easy or obvious as recent efforts by Google and Yahoo to opt out.
- Charlie Anzman
hmm.. well you can find out this much information about visitors to your websites and blogs too. But if MSFT finds out this info, they're blasted?
- Imran Hussain
from feedalizr
Matt, I work on Windows Live Toolbar. :-) I have not seen the big red letter warning you point to, as I have not installed Google Toolbar (exactly because of the product I work on). But you could've just mention that you have a problem with the disclosure clarity. I'll make sure your feedback gets to the IE guys.
- Franci Penov
http://tinyurl.com/6q9vou - Chrome Privacy Policy. Not as obvious as Google Toolbar big red letter warning; I personally had to dig a little bit around before I found it. I'd say about as clear and discoverable as IE8 Privacy policy you complained about. :-)
- Franci Penov
Franci Penov, thanks for passing on my feedback to the IE guys. I don't think Google Chrome has anything to hide (e.g. it doesn't send your browsing info to Google as you surf the web). In fact, I just did a separate write-up on the communication between Chrome and Google. Read it at http://bit.ly/2jnBYZ
- Matt Cutts
Imran, I think it's fair to point out that IE8 gives users virtually no disclosure that their wholesale surfing data (including queries done on other search engines) will be sent to Microsoft if they turn on this innocent-sounding feature.
- Matt Cutts
@mattcutts the Google reputation manager? :)
- Mark Edmondson
Jealous! Toby apparently went to the Louis Gray School of No Sleep.
- Rochelle
+1 Rahsheen - My thoughts exactly! What is this Louis character teaching this next generation? Next thing you'll tell me is that he curates all the world's news to them so they don't have to....
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Toby needs to visit our house. He needs some training!
- Louis Gray
Missed this the first time around. Congrats - especially if it's happened again!
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
"It's the Oreo-stuffed chocolate chip cookie, people, and my head just exploded. The following recipe makes 24 gigantic cookies"
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
She just called again to say that the hiring manager has been on spring break. That makes no sense to me since he specifically said in the interview that he'd get back to us within a week.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
So I guess I should just assume that I didn't get the job at this point, because that sounds mondo fishy.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Keep going, Alex. I know you will get one soon.
- Melanie Reed
No harm in checking back in to get an update...
- Cheryl Jones
Didn't know you were on the hunt Alex ... Good Luck!!
- Charlie Anzman
your gonna fall in love. it's amazhing. happy early bday.
- Lnorigb
Thanks all! Took a lot of research and figuring out what i need, but i think this is the right one! I want it here NOW!!! ;) For those who don't know the lens, here is more about it: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon...
- Rachel Lea Fox
from iPhone
I love wide angles, so yay for this lens!
- Brian Johns
Me too, I have continued to use my old one even though it's a DX and my camera is full frame. I can get down to 16mm on it without too much problem, then it starts to black out corners that the lens can't reach and I only gain a little bit to the photo by going below 15. The new lens not only goes down to f2.8 instead of f4 but the optics are way better too.
- Rachel Lea Fox
from iPhone
Great present, awesome lens. You're gonna love it. :)
- ronin
hope you enjoy and thanks for sharing the link (and happy birthday too, ;)
- chaz2b
"Plastic takes thousands of years to decompose — but 16-year-old science fair contestant Daniel Burd made it happen in just three months. The Waterloo, Ontario high school junior figured that something must make plastic degrade, even if it does take millennia, and that something was probably bacteria. The Record reports that Burd mixed landfill dirt with yeast and tap water, then added ground plastic and let it stew. The plastic indeed decomposed more quickly than it would in nature; after experimenting with different temperatures and configurations, Burd isolated the microbial munchers. One came from the bacterial genus Pseudomonas, and the other from the genus Sphingomonas. Burd says this should be easy on an industrial scale: all that’s needed is a fermenter, a growth medium and plastic, and the bacteria themselves provide most of the energy by producing heat as they eat. The only waste is water and a bit of carbon dioxide."
- April Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
So why is carbon sequestration a good idea when it's all complicated and expensive, but bad when it involves burying plastic bags in landfills?
- Paul Buchheit
I think it's better to sequester carbon as dirt than as bags.
- Gabe
But if it's already in plastic bag form, why not leave it that way instead of turning it into CO2?
- Paul Buchheit
Paul: that's exactly what I've been thinking. Particularly since the City of Seattle no longer allows residents to sequester food based carbon in landfills and instead requires us to burn it into compost.
- Hayes Haugen
Dirt is useful because you can grow stuff in it. Most waste products are not so useful.
- Gabe
Yes, but the choice isn't between dirt and plastic -- it's between plastic and CO2.
- Paul Buchheit
I have to agree with Paul on this one: atmospheric CO2 is much more of a pressing concern at the moment than landfill space. Though I do admire the kid's scientific spirit.
- Louis Simoneau
It doesn't say what the process actually produces. They mention the feed material (plastic) and the waste material (water, CO2), but not the real products. I assumed it produced globs of carbon. Am I wrong?
- Gabe
Has nobody considered this for an artificial ecosystem? Compost your scraps for fertile soil, and compost your bags for the CO2 for the plants growing in it. Sure you'll need an airlock on your greenhouse (and an oxy mask whenever you enter it) but you'll have the best damned tomatoes on your street.
- Chris Charabaruk
You don't want to leave it in plastic form as it screws up the ocean large! Check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... I hope they can use this to make something that would eat the plastic in the ocean rather than the sea life dying from it.
- Luke Kilpatrick
Since it said that the waste products were CO2 and water, I assumed there were also non-waste products. The good thing about landfills is that they can later be mined for all the great things that were too cheap to recycle.
- Gabe
Yeah, I think landfills have an unjustly bad reputation. When properly managed, they are a great way to deal with garbage that our technology can't yet efficiently recycle. (we're saving for the future!)
- Paul Buchheit
that's great news. now i can really finish my threat to all my damn *invincible* plastic bags! (waves fist)
- ed fry
The two biggest problems with landfill are the leachate seeping into groundwater (or contaminating local soil) and methane (a greenhouse gas). Even if you can mitigate those problems, they're difficult to eliminate entirely, making the land almost useless once it's full.
- Gabe
Gabe, not to minimize the problems, but I live right next to Shoreline Ampitheather in Mountain View, which is built on landfill is proof that the landfill land is hardly useless.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
It's not just landfills, though. Take the large floating trash gyre of the Pacific, and its effects in the ecosystem. So the tiny little plastic balls in water are fake food, and animals eat them, and then die in various ways, lowering populations and making species even more fragile. Landfill may be a good way if it's contained and monitored more closely, or CO2, in various areas- such...
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- anna sauce
@anna at least he is coming up with a solution rather than just finding more things to complain about
- Chris Johnston
anna's right -- the problem is when the stuff ends up in the ocean. Landfills are a good way to keep the stuff out of the ocean.
- Gabe
Stop speculating and start experimenting!
- Dane Deasy