Shouldn't California INCREASE their assessment so they can collect more taxes, to climb out of their financial problems? Someone has to turn it around.
- Keith Rowland
LOL I wouldn't mind too much loosing $350,000 at least then I would have had it to loose :)
- TheBigBentley
Keith, California should stop spending money they don't have - that will turn it around
- Jero
Good as long as you weren't planning on moving or forced to move.
- Phillip Stewart
As long as you're not planning on moving out, I don't see why this would be bad news?
- Tom Ribbens
Now thats what I would call a Market Correction. Things are only worth what you can sell them for.
- Christian Burns
I'm getting in to real estate. Going to invest 10k in an area that is not yet developed, wait 50 years and I'll be selling condos for 100 times that.
- Myles Cloutier
Wow... I prefere indianapolis! hahaha Houses there are almost free.
- Alberto Lung
If my house dropped 350k, it would be worth -150k!
- Ed Naggiar
from iPhone
same here Ed, you know us regular guys that bought houses we can afford, we're not the problem.
- Charlieray
Wow...different tax guidelines where I'm from in Illinois. My value went down by 35% and my taxes actually went up 15%.
- Steve Council
I live in TN. My house is worth $103,000 and it's four bedroom with a little land. lol $350,000 will get you a mansion with 30 acres here
- cbmeeks
Guys, $350k is nothing in CA. Leo's house is probably worth over a mil easy. I knew my TWiT donations made a difference. lol
- cbmeeks
I'd love to even own a house at half that value...
- dann
Cbmeeks, in West Tennessee, half of that will get you a mansion!!
- Benjamin Deming
That's really good news unless you planning to sell soon. I'll buy it. how much do you want for it?
- James Glenn
Good thing I'm a renter. I could have lost $350,000! ;)
- Sarah Lane
Take your accountant and property advisor off your christmas card list
- Matt Jarvis
Maybe things work differently there, but here tax assessed value is always lower than actual appraised value, by as much as 20%. Here's hoping it's the same for you.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
A few months ago a mortgage on a building I have was called by the bank because the value had dropped significantly below the balance due. That was a scary few days. Made me empathize a little with folks in the same boat with less avenues of recourse.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
Bummer if the previous value of the house was $350k
- Jason Tokarz
We have a "don't laugh, it's paid for" house - didn't skyrocket, didn't drop. I'd never sell, though, so it's irrelevant
- heretic_twit
It's the house value that went down...not the home value. The value of the housing market isn't of much consequence until you trade down or sell up entirely. The assessors value will go up again soon enough. In the mean time enjoy the extra cash. It's still the same home with the same family in it.
- Chris Nixon
If my house dropped $350K, it would be worth -$250K
- Michael
My house increased in price by 350million, don't know what all the fuss is about.
- Mark
Your primary residence isn't an investment. Without it, you'd be paying rent. Now, you're paying rent (in the form of a mortgage) at a higher rate but you wind up with some of that "rent" stored up at the end.
- Trent Hamm
Don't complain ... in 3 years it will increase by $1,000,000 and they will access taxes at ful value instead of 25%
- Stephan Romeo
Join the club bro. We are in the same spot. Not $350k thank god.
- Nathan Gibbs
well if just dropped to $350K.Reality is in the coming years it will drop further.This is unfortunate, but we are in the beginning of the restructuring of the U.S. and European economies.Be prepared to see housing values to go down further as we go through this shift
- Baba
be a good liberal and send them the $5000 anyway... think of all the people on welfare that depend on you Leo.... dont disappoint them...
- John Hillestad
That's only relevant if you bought it at a price between the higher appraisal amount and the currently lowered value or (big OR) if you refinanced or took out a second mortgage and the total mortgaged value is at anything above the currently lower value. But if you bought the home at a price lower than the new value and haven't refinanced then you're fine, you never really had the value...
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- Lon Cohen
We're not upside down yet, but nearly all our equity is gone. This isn't a mansion, or even a McMansion folks. Just a modest 3BR, 2 1/2 Bath, 2000 sq foot home in California. It's the "Northern California" part that makes it so expensive.
- Leo Laporte
I think a lot of people miss the point. While I'm sure Leo will be fine, how many people have lost all the equity in their home? How many of them had worked hard to earn that equity over 20-30 years? And how many of them were planning on that equity as a large portion of their investment income when they retire? That's the point.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
If it's anything like here in FL they are taking into account the foreclosures in your area when assessing your property values. It stinks!
- Dayngr
Time to buy if you're in the market for getting out of renting and into mortgaging.
- Emmanuel Losier
That assumes your home will NEVER go back up in value which is not the case. Statistically you should be back up in 5 - 7 years. By the time your mortgage is paid off you should be up quite a bit. The fact is that if you need a place to live it doesn't really matter what it is currently worth. One of the reasons the country is in the shape it is in is because people treated their homes...
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- Chris Johnston
Another reason the country is in the shape it's in is because mortgage companies and banks were too greedy and leveraged their money 60-70 times over while forcing people into mortgages they couldn't afford. When I was buying my house in California there were a table full of people (realtors, brokers, etc) trying to get me to buy a house that was 3x what I was comfortable buying. I had...
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- Robert Lindsley
from iPhone
Hey, Leo, I thought you wanted to pay MORE in taxes for socialist agenda items since your friend achieved the White House,
- Mike
and then I will comment on whoever follows me here...
- Alpay Erturkmen
Louis, I recently got the "high five" DM spam, too. So off-putting!
- Robert J Taylor
from iPhone
I just need to spend more time setting up FF so it is my friend that intercepts all my social media content but only from who I want to read!
- Pentaxfan
Friend feed seems like mainstream to most serious ones?
- jibzy
Friendfeed has it's strengths once you get it setup
- Chris
@robert whether or not FF is technically better than <insertsocialnetwork> its really a question of said network reach
- Sean Scott
Once a week I go through my followers and delete most/all of the spammers, but I only have like 50-60 so it's not hard to do.
- Allison Warnock
Let's hope the spammers and bots and etc don't attack us here on FriendFeed next. I won't tell them if you don't.
- Louis Trapani
from iPhone
Sean: well, FF has better search, grouping, real time, a better community, and more.
- Robert Scoble
I think you're already following me.
- Danny Minick
In two years on Twitter I have never used any bots nor even tried to sell anything. I always look at profiles personally before following anyone and have never been concerned with how many are following me.
- Gord Young
See, cross posting that offer to Twitter is misleading
- Kevin Krewell
It is fun to watch my follower ## on Twitter go between 200 and 230 it is a constant battle to see what I post. Just not that interesting at times!
- Pentaxfan
Interesting project! Please follow us @streamfile :)
- Kimmo Gläborg
Checking in here...hope we continue to follow each other, Robert!
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I'm pretty sure I've commented here before Robert, but you don't follow me here or on Twitter. Not that I want you to under just for the sake of it...
- Gurpreet
Today's secret password is "cheese".
- Andrew Smith
And you don't have to read everything we say, my God we can't keep up with your feed! But it's nice to always be assured there will be something in my Friendfeed from Scoble. And more Scoble and more Scoble!
- Keith Rowland
...only if you actually find my tweets interesting enough.
- Gurpreet
It's Unfollow Sunday. Just purged all the bots, spammers, SEO/social media types from my own Twitter account. I never autofollow. Still got the "high five" DM spam, though...
- Dennis Jernberg
Nice when you integrate Facebook and twitter and multiple accounts so you can read all at one place. I have to say I use Seesmic to read posts more than FF.
- Pentaxfan
bit bucket... here i come :) ps: scoble, what if we just "like" your post ;)
- simran
@pentaxfan of course. not wanting to start a FF vs Twitter debate. just saying the glasses through which we judge better or superior are diff based on our interests. Plus in the end FB will take it all :P
- Sean Scott
This is a sly way to get us to sign up for FF :)
- valb00
According to my following list, Scoble was the second person I followed after joining Twitter. A long time ago that was.
- Stephen Sclafani
UX tip for FF. Be nice to be able to click on the comment link at the end of a comment stream. Having to scroll back up on these long threads breaks flow.
- Sean Scott
Kimber: wait and watch http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... and see if I like any of your posts. I read a LOT and if you are posting interesting stuff I'll probably like it.
- Robert Scoble
Sean: click twice on the time stamp and you'll get a window of just this chat and you'll see a comment entry area at the bottom.
- Robert Scoble
Sean Scott: Click on the timeline (the '5 minutes ago' bit) :)
- 1x29
You will end up following me anyway. They all will. :)
- Matt G
But you're already following me here on Friendfeed, Robert. How is Twitter going to be different?
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
FriendFeed is better, deeper, yet Twitter works better on the go
- Majento
There's a lot to like about FF, except it needs a bigger community. Twitter is like the iPhone - for iPhone it's all the applications, with Twitter (and Facebook) it's all about the number of poeple.
- Kevin Krewell
@Sean, that is why we are always looking for new and improved apps to operate at a better level with more consistency. Take it easy! I'm off to bed for my 5 hours of mediocre horizontal time out.
- Pentaxfan
Hi Robert, you are obviously going to be following a lot more people. Thanks.
- Rob Zachritz
And I return. (Just cleared my account so I can start afresh with friend lists) :)
- BeauGiles
Robert, you have lost a lot of followers. I have been watching all night.
- TheHenry
I don't get the appeal of auto-following. I for one would not want thousands of updates showing up in my timeline.
- Alex Knight
Twitter -ly ♪ and FriendFeed -ly ♪ livin' in perfect har-mony ♪♪♪ LOL Why can't we be friends ♪♪♪
- RetiredTeacherD
Just created a corporate FF account so you can follow our corporate Twitter at http:/www.twitter.com/senderok - Plug-in with anti-phishing icons for the inbox and photo business cards in the header pane
- SenderOK
I'm here I'm here! :D just curious, what do you have against SEO and Social Media experts?
- Celia
Really? BTW I'm just a regular geeky gal.
- Teresa O
TheHenry: and I will lose even more this week. No biggie. I don't define myself by who follows me, especially if they are there just to get a follow back.
- Robert Scoble
We're already facebook friends. And I think friendfeed friends too. But FF just hasn't hit critical mass yet. It'll be cool when it does. Nice job throwing another rock at the hornet's nest! :-)
- Dan Becker
Rory: the catch is I might like one of your posts and then you'll have to deal with my other friends. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm glad to know that you are still interested in hearing from us :), I'm @tsudo
- Keith - @tsudo
Robin: I have only seen a handful of spams here. They are easily blocked and there are other defenses against them that I won't talk about here.
- Robert Scoble
Are we not allowed to comment if you are already following us?
- RobinDotNet
Are all those SEO types you're unfollowing now following me?!
- Dennis Jernberg
Thing I don't like is that FF doesn't have a very good topic when the primary line is directed at twitter. There may or may not be a link to something after FF part. Which means FF becomes a bit of a treasure hunt. I like FF for commentary but I hate the initial post.
- Justin Howard
Robert: Thanks mate, interesting and probably efficient idea. I'll do the same for quality content, tired of those "I just used whateveryoucallit.com to gain 300 new followers right now!".
- Nir Ben Yona
whateveryoucallit.com domain name is already taken :-]
- Stephane Tsacas
Hi Robert, I had to do the exact same thing to nail all the twit spam I was getting. Hope you get it all sorted!
- James Brown
Even as we sit here, my iPhone dings with new follow e-mails from spam/marketing people. Sigh.
- RobinDotNet
Stephane: LOL, probably. I took this line from Chris Brogan's "Twitter Etiquette Guide".
- Nir Ben Yona
The joys of not being internet famous means I can check out followers personally, block where required and I've only ever got about 2 DM spam. But with the volumes that Robert gets, it's obviously not possible.
- Rachel Clarke
TwitterEtiquetteGuide.com is available ;-)
- Stephane Tsacas
I think Twitter needs something like captcha to keep the bots to a minimum, IMHO.
- Dennis Jernberg
Robert -- yes, on twitter. It seems the more you tweet, and the more people you communicate with, the more spammers follow you. Hoping for auto-follows I guess (I disappoint them in that regard.)
- RobinDotNet
No offense, but what is the utility of being "followed" by someone who already follows tens of thousands?
- Derek Pangallo
Good way to filter, you know the spammers don't actually read anything or participate
- Justin Luey
What is the utility of being "followed" by someone who doesn't tweet and who follows thousands? What do they do, sit at their terminal and watch the tweets go by all day long?
- RobinDotNet
hi Robert u r already following me how r u?
- Gaith
First day on Friend Feed and Robert Scoble is available. What a welcome.... Carey@holisticdds
- Carey O'Rielly
What will you do when the spammers/SEOs infest Friendfeed, as they will, or do you believe this is better crowdsourced and will be able to hold against the hordes?
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Rachel -- But numbers alone don't mean anything. Are they that shallow? That must be a stupid question.
- RobinDotNet
Is this going to be the 'most-commented-ever' post on Friendfeed? 240+ already!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Aaman: FriendFeed is FAR more defendable against spam than Twitter is.
- Robert Scoble
and how would this benefit people who follow Robert Scoble?
- Seyfi Erol
That seems like a good idea, but I think you're already following a lot of these people
- Carlton Prest
Seyfi: why don't you follow me and see how it goes?
- Robert Scoble
I've gotten 4 follow e-mails since my first post here from people I don't want to follow. Do the bots start running right around midnight?
- RobinDotNet
Mahendra, you're not following the threads in Russian (that's my only hint) :D
- Micah Wittman
Robin: oh yes. But I'm never sure what's worse. the people who just want to talk about the numbers or the people they may be able to impress.
- Rachel Clarke
Aaman - Friendfeed doesn't make link-tracking easy, so it's less interesting for spammers to infest.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Is this a test of interaction or more likely a sort of audience verification?
- Gilgamesh
Gilgamesh: it is what you want it to be. For me I followed you.
- Robert Scoble
If twitter is noise, and FriendFeed is conversation, Robert Scoble followers are their own discussion. It's like using an entirely different website.
- Carlton Prest
Rachel, that's a good point. Is Facebook the same way? I joined that and suddenly got all these people I've nothing in common with who want to be my friend. Creepy.
- RobinDotNet
Scoble: you convinced me! (thought you just needed self-validation, sorry)
- Derek Pangallo
Derek: heh, yeah, I am watching this, among other things running across my screen.
- Robert Scoble
Robin: Facebook is the same but I think to a lesser extent - it's harder to find people I think. But still got a load of friend requests that I ignore as I don't know them
- Rachel Clarke
Robin: you mean like people you went to high school with and didnt' like adding you on FB
- Derek Pangallo
I already do. what i mean is if we don't keep FF, Twitter limited to our interests, wouldn't it be garbage we already try hard to get rid of. Or how far can we extend our interests in life or amount of information we consume?
- Seyfi Erol
Derek -- I mean people I really have NO connection with at all. I've only friended a couple of people I work with, and 2 other real friends. I'm getting friend requests from people I don't know at all.
- RobinDotNet
Seyfi: you haven't discovered FriendFeed's groups and lists yet, have you?
- Robert Scoble
I got a Russian-speaking follower on Twitter. I didn't follow him because I don't understand a word he tweets.
- Dennis Jernberg
Did you know that Facebook has started selling parts of itself to the Russians? At end of May, they sold 1.96% stake of Facebook to Russia's Digital Sky Technologies for $200M.
- RobinDotNet
Robert: I shouldn't have underestimated you. You probably have started much longer comment threads on Friendfeed before.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Mahendra, Robert, I agree, FF has been very good at keeping out junk
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Mahendra: I have. I gave away $5,000 once and got more than 1,000 comments on that. But that cost me a lot of cash. Can't afford to do that again.
- Robert Scoble
DST is run by Alisher Usmanov who is closely tied with Putin. You feel ok to that, but re-read the company's user agreement where it says it can share all of your info with third parties. Of course, it's irrelevant to this thread, but I thought it was interesting.
- RobinDotNet
FF is interesting assuming the topic is FF... and/or Scoble's next devilishly clever stunt to generate FF comments
- John Hardy
John: there are lots of interesting topics here on FriendFeed. Did you know you could search by them based on number of likes? Click "Advanced Search" and try.
- Robert Scoble
Very bold, I like it, are you going to keep the people you follow under 2000?
- Joe Dawson
from iPhone
Tell me the newest best way to use FriendFeed!
- Shoichi
I notice that one of the prolific thought-leadering traffic drivers I follow on twitter basically tweets everything he reads, before he reads it. This has lead to spam a few times. disappointing.
- Derek Pangallo
Yo Robert: a man has to do what a man has to do, so one surfer to another: go for it!
- Geer
Here here! A good cleansing is good, now and then... Starting fresh is the way to go, get all of that nonsense out and maintain a core group of people for solid conversation!
- Brian Partridge
Great taking the tour w/ you, Levar Burton & @VegasBill during CES 09 at the Atomic Testing Museum. I would appreciate the follow back. Thanks Robert!
- Chris R
Thanks for following back on Twitter Robert. Cheers from Las Vegas!
- Vegas Bill
I'm pretty sure we're friends here, only just wish there was a easy way to check... and if there is, that some one will let me know....
- Grant Bierman
Just out of curiousity, why are there fewer spammers and bots on FF compared with Twiitter? Is it because they haven't discovered FF yet?
- Sally Church
from iPhone
there are occasionally spammers on FF but I think they mostly get handled quickly vs Twitter where more than occasionally clusters of spammers just follow each other...
- Shannon Clark
What if your already following me? Do I still need to comment here?
- Uncle CW™
Sally: I don't explain spam defenses in public. I don't want spammers to figure them out. But there are quite a few defenses against spam here.
- Robert Scoble
I was surprised about the spammer comments, until I started getting female nude model followers and I'm a women. Maybe a nude male model but not Sparkle or Hootie McBoob
- Corrine Pearce
Corrine: hope you don't see that here on FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Why are you doing this? You have one of the best listening audiences on twitter! Is there a point to prove that we will post here or go to wefollow?
- David Cole
David: and I can prove that. Twitter's audience has become less and less engaged lately.
- Robert Scoble
Wow, powerful shift by Robert Scoble, I'm really interested in seeing how this works for you Scoble. I slept through all the big news here tonight.
- Jimminy Fuller
Interesting experiment. This is probably one the most commented feedfriend threads in history!
- Menno te Koppele
Plus, David, if you all are listening, you are listening because of my ability to find cool stuff. Mostly that's been because of FriendFeed over the past 18 months. Now I've seen how ascerbic Twitter's spammers have gotten on my accounts.
- Robert Scoble
Interesting. This is going to boost 1000 egos for sure :-)
- Freddie Benjamin
So will it be a matter of just trying to say ahead of the spammers by jumping from one early adopted social network to another?
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
JP: no. I am not leaving Twitter. I AM, however, deleting all their accounts so I will no longer be passing them juice.
- Robert Scoble
I wonder how will your FF homepage look like after this.
- ahmet bulent
Does this make you anti-social media?
- Cory Brown
To follow commenters from here on Twitter will be a lot of work for you Robert. Or do you have some magic tool that helps?
- Tibor Holoda
Robert, how many of the 100k do you think you'll still be following when you are done?
- RobinDotNet
~~~> Robert!! Follow me back again. [a] I'm a real fan of the @Scobleizer... and [b] I'm much nicer than some of these sassy bloofers. ;)
- Kim Sherrell
So what if you have all 58k + comment on here? And you have to keep everyone! And your plan is foiled, sir. Okay give or take 10k for the neglected abandoned twitters and the spammers. Btw, you're already following me on both twitter and here. But come on, you're not really. : /
- Lise
That's cool. I am finding the spammers too much to manage these days myself.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
Because I can't keep myself from doing math, that's 1.1%.
- RobinDotNet
Lise: I see you a few times a day, but you're right. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Are you trying to make a point about FF v Twitter? I have spammy things to say about my amateur photography, potential homelessness, and run-ins with public-run health system in the US. Isn't all Twitter spam--just spam you want? :)
- Dean Hall
the auto-refresh on this thread is mind-blowing, fun to watch
- nchenga
Do you ever worry about SM burnout Robert? How do you pace your self?
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
Interesting to note many of most commented threads are in languages other than English. Can we suggest FF has a better international appeal than Twitter?
- Kaan Bingol
Good idea, as you say, stop juicing up the spammers - it'll be interesting to see the stats once you've finished.
- Andrew Piggott
Dean: your Tweets aren't spam. I might keep you. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
I only followed people who were interesting to me, otherwise it is like trying to find a needle in a haystack of brain dumps.
- Daniel Durrans
Exactly. So I expect to be cut. And considering I'm in a crowd of close to 60k, it'll be the same thing.
- Lise
There should be a counter in front of the comments...
- Willem Karssenberg
Lise: and because FriendFeed's search engine is better here too.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, yeah I know. Thought you might have meant for your secretscoble twitter account ;)
- Travis Koger
It's kind of like a giant SM break up Robert. *Oh the hearts you are breaking...*
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
I'm fairly selective about who I follow and I follow so maybe you will follow me back!
- Richard Cunningham
from iPod
Robert, care to explain how you use groups in this kind of context? Because I don't get the point of following people who are then placed into a "I don't read this much" kind of group. How do you use groups so that you're (1) not overwhealmed, and (2) actually read what people are saying?
- Ian Betteridge
How many people do you expect to end up with, Robert? What is a reasonable number?
- Lise
You don't have to follow me on Twitter. I think the FriendFeed party palace is mighty fine.
- Josette Torres
from fftogo
(Not that I'll probably see your response, btw - something at the bottom of 350+ responses is effectively buried until FF has better threading tools. Which I'm sure it will, some day.)
- Ian Betteridge
@Daniel - ditto, and for me it is generally development related also. Robert - I know you have to try and keep up with everything going on in the social media space, but I'm always surprised when people follow so many others as it must be extremely difficult to find the wheat in amongst all the chaff.
- Donald Matheson
Robert: I did not know about that search trick. Thanks!
- Menno te Koppele
Ian: a "I don't read this much" kind of group is awesome for serrendipity. Also, anyone who I find there who is high value gets quickly moved to a smaller group.
- Robert Scoble
What? Are you saying you're not following me already...? ;-)
- Jarno Peschier
Lise: on Twitter? Less than 2,000. I can't follow more.
- Robert Scoble
Jamo: I am already following you. Scott: why not? I am already following you too.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, it might be a problem for me re-gaining your following as my tweets are not 100% English only (whether that means trying to speak English or no English at all ;). How do you deal with occasional non-English tweeters? As that's clearly a noise for you.
- Tibor Holoda
if only twitter were as engaging as FriendFeed has become, and as instantaneous as things like this comment thread, then maybe I would use it more. Hence why I'm all for unfollowing who you conceive as uninteresting; and if that includes me, then so be it!
- Nick Soden
Tibor: I just skip over most of them. Sometimes I translate them to see if I was right.
- Robert Scoble
It is my hope that I provide you with something as interesting as what you provide me with. Either way, I will continue to peruse your posts with interest.
- James (!?)
Hi, I'm still newish to this social media thang - but good on you for taking a stand.
- Jus
Do you prefer night owls? Because what about all the poor people in SV who went to bed at a decent hour and missed your post? Bummer for them, huh?
- RobinDotNet
I'm back from picking my wife up at the airport and ran across this on my way back to sleep.
- nuBound CEO - Mark
The wild and woolly blogosphere is replete with all sorts of good stuff. Hard to follow 500 people, let alone 1000. I applaud you for trying to take the reins.
- Jack B
It funny you put spammers, SEO experts, bots, social media experts all in one bucket. What are you implying? Btw, I'm none of these...
- Peter Chee
.. and it works!! Just got a mail saying Robert is following me now... :)
- Sudar
Peter: I did that to piss off the SEO experts. :-)
- Robert Scoble
This makes me realise that posting from Twitter as opposed to "to twitter from FF" allows the Twitter stream to grow on the back of FF comments ! otherwise not : as in my case - what do you think Robert ? FF to Twitter ? Or FF aggregating all your tweets ?
- Nicholas Paul Gordon
from iPhone
Nicholas: shhhh, you are discovering my secrets! I'm doing more and more from FriendFeed lately.
- Robert Scoble
I comment and you follow me. Its totally worth it
- Arvind
Arvind: even better I was following you before. Mobilepax: no. I really don't care about followers. Inbound is more important than who is listening to you.
- Robert Scoble
and does that mean I have to write in English from now on :)
- Mobilepax
Nice one - it's cool that you give friendfeed (and all the commenters of course ;-) much kudos.
- Alex Vermeule (@alexve)
If you just follow everyone in this thread, won't you just wind up with noise from 'engaged' people. I mean, does this solve the problem?
- Missionary Broadcasting
Good thing its 4am and my car alarm went off, otherwise you wouldnt follow me! I had to look up a video online how to break the key fob apart becuase aparently its battery leaked and was self activating the panic switch. Damn VWs! a replacement key is only like 150 bucks!!
- Charlieray
Missionary: no. You have not discovered that FriendFeed has groups and MUCH BETTER search.
- Robert Scoble
Its funny that if you say "SEO" on twitter its an instant 10 followers
- Charlieray
I'd rather follow you on Friendfeed, Robert. Your tweets get cross posted here anyway, and there's a much greater sense of engagement in that conversation than there is over at Twitter.
- Andrew Terry
Everyone that "follows" you really does know you love FF. So did you build a tool to follow everyone back that comments on here or are you seriously going to manually follow people back?
- Peter Chee
Theres 451+ comment here, do you really follow *everyone*?
- Fajar Nurdiansyah
Because I am up at 1:20 a.m. PT, why not... I must be your target audience then.
- Georgiana Comsa
It must show you how many people enjoy engaging with you Robert, with the number of people posting here.
- Steve Farnworth
Amazing to see the comment thread to this entry expand constantly in real time.
- Christian Bolstad
Peter: I've manually followed everyone on this thread so far.
- Robert Scoble
Peter: although to be fair I've already followed quite a few people who have commented here.
- Robert Scoble
Hi, you are already following me. My solution to get rid of spammers on Twitter is to block them, that is what I do. If everyone started blocking them, I think things would improve
- Asgeir
What about the SEO experts who accidentally find this feed?
- phil baumann
Robert, but you're following commenters here, not on Twitter, right? Not that i care about Twitter that much, as for me it's just a pipeline. FF and FB are conversational platforms for me, or the places i hang out these days.
- Tibor Holoda
Spammers being blocked doesnt do anything as they are hoping for that 1 in 100 hit of someone clicking that link, eventually they get banned and create a new account.
- Charlieray
Aaman: Sleep? some of us are just starting the day. We're waiting for the US to go to sleep so we can talk about you ;-)
- Rachel Clarke
the term SEO expert is a crock of shit
- Charlieray
Marko: not true. It's better because it has very little spam. It's better because it has a better search engine. It's better because it has comments and likes. It's better because it's an aggregator. And more.
- Robert Scoble
you don't have to follow back. but i'll take the chance to say great work with building 43.
- Alexandre Gamela
from twhirl
Massimo: right up top. Heheh. Alexandre: thank you!
- Robert Scoble
After 6 months out of the social media loop I came back to a whole bunch of follows that I either couldn't remember who they were or why I had followed them - how can that be relevent? So, I culled my follows back to less than 200. I'm now just looking to find the signal amongst the noise.
- Colin Walker
What about FriendFeed? Is there any @notsecretscoble too?
- Ludwik C. Siadlak
Friendfeeding for Scoble to follow me while on vacation in Montauk. There is something wrong with me.
- Mitchell Schneider
Mitchell -- you just don't want to miss the fun.
- RobinDotNet
robkeynes -- nice to see you up and about
- RobinDotNet
Ludwik: no, because here I can just start a new list of users.
- Robert Scoble
Well, this has been fun to watch, but it's almost 2 a.m. and I have to be very smart tomorrow morning, which is easier when I'm not too tired, so everyone have a great [whatever comes next in your time zone].
- RobinDotNet
Robert, I'm trying to understand this follow/unfollow strategy you are applying as Napoleon Bonaparte on a battle field ;) Interested to know the result
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
pushing this thing to its limits just to see what happens? interesting.
- livefast
I really do think the way Twitter has changed in the last few months, with all the media attention, certainly begs for it to be used differently now.
- Nicola Quinn
Wow that's a whole lot of people commenting in the last 2 hours, Rob - How many of the new people you are following from this list are NEW to friendfeed? (estimate?)
- Roy Herrod
Does this constitute a comment or are you looking for some insightful commentary on the state of new media? ;)
- Iwan
40%? This must have turned out to be one of the biggest promotions in FF history, even if it wasn't intended that way. BTW, I'm new to FF too.
- Dennis Jernberg
guess it's good to clean up the list once in a while.
- shadow
Ha ha, nice.... So any major ramifications from the mass unfollow?
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Alistair: other than losing about 1,000 followers so far? No major ramifications.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I'm coming out with a project in the Continuing Medical Education field in the next weeks so if you are interested, I wouldn't mind if you will follow me :-)
- Marco Fabbri
Won't tell anybody, specially Seo people, ssshhhh.....
- Giorgio Burlini
from iPhone
You had me at don't tell the spammers...
- Sean Kelly
I think it's a hoot. Now I'm wondering whether to reverse my recent move towards following more, not less. I do believe that from my experience so far FF is more attuned to building/maintaining community than is Twitter.
- Des Walsh
Des: on FriendFeed you can do both strategies at the same time. You can follow a lot more in one list while following even fewer in another.
- Robert Scoble
Des - Once more people re-engage in the conversation here, they'll realize the continuing outright potential of Friendfeed. I still some here before I read my e-mail
- Charlie Anzman
Hi Mr Scoble, I'm with you (but on a smaller scale) I unfollowed about 150 users on Friday, felt good! I pretty much hang out in FF now at my home page and my groups
- Lee
from iPod
wow...just wow :) Robert, you have many fans !!
- Hayk H.
Good luck on hiding from the bots, they have ways of finding people.... :)
- Chris Holm
well, who am I to refuse such a nice offer? here I am!!!
- niccolò vecchia
Good to hear! I have only ~2000 followers, but I can't follow more at the moment due to Twitter's follow limit rule.
- Martin Lindeskog
Great way to test the chemistry between FF and Twitter. I like it.
- E-Advocate Network
Robert - I'am definitely not a spammer when it comes to broadcasting anything to people, who doesn't want to hear it :) but I do sometimes respond (mostly on twitter so @reply) to some tweets not aimed on me, but that's what everybody actually asks for when publicly broadcasting anything.
- Dušan Šimonovič
Shhh...don't tell anyone but I'm neither of those (the spammers, SEO experts, the bots, or the social media experts,) though, I like the heck out of the concept of this thread...
- Vincent Wright
Good idea about the unfollow. It was an interesting experiment whilst it lasted but given your lifestyle I'm sure most Twitter messages just passed you by. I never DM'd you however, it was nice to think that I had the option if I wanted to. Anyway I've been on FF for ages now, and what I need is a good FF app (for pc), any ideas anyone?
- Nick Bristow
Nick: I just use a browser with FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Only 530 comments so far? Come on people you are not even trying.
- John Cooper
@Rob Sellen, did you see the comments on the most recent ffundercats podcast entry. http://friendfeed.com/ffunder... Over 1000 in a very short period of time. Although I expect that this post will also get up to those levels.
- Travis Koger
NOTICE: I am closing comments here because I gotta get some sleep. I'll consider doing this again sometime. Sorry if you didn't get in, but see you tomorrow night.
- Robert Scoble
As seen in front of me at Sushi Main Street in Half Moon Bay. And Paul I haven't been sick in ages and I didn't need to drink any free crap that Sarah Lacy gave me. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Terry: damn, I'm already home. How about tomorrow afternoon?
- Robert Scoble
Apostol: the founder begged and I liked it and it works FAST here on FriendFeed -- it was one of the first apps to support FriendFeed's SUP protocol.
- Robert Scoble
That looks lovely. I sure do miss sushi in Tokyo -- so good and so cheap.
- Christopher A Carr
I maybe over blowing this I just thought Leo Laporte would have broken into his shows to report the news. The death of Jackson is a cultural event of epic proportions.
- Mark
I'll remember where I was at this moment.
- Dave Friedel
I was just thinking that Dave. I remember where I was whern Diana died too
- Mark
I will take a COMA any day over Death. Fuck yes there may be hope!!!!!!!!!
- Mark
I hope tmz was just jumping the gun
- Jason Tullos
I had a friend who had a cardiac arrest and was revived... but died a few days later. It's worse than a heart attack.
- Dave Friedel
Depending on how long he wasn't breathing, he may be technically alive, but...
- Thomas
We will worry about bringing him back later, if he is in a coma at least he is alive
- Mark
It's interesting that CNN isn't even mentioning the TMZ article. You'd think they'd at least reference it and say "let's wait for confirmation"...
- Thomas
Well, either they wait and get it right or call it early and possibly get it wrong. They're supposed to be reputable.
- aldenoneil
CNN just called based on CBS and the times
- Jason Tullos
Certainly for people around Veronica's age including me, this is probably the biggest cultural death in our lifetimes that we are old enough to understand
- Mark
BBC are saying its a shame cos people have tickets for his show and wont be able to go. Unbelievabe
- Mark
Last time I felt like this was 12 years ago, staying up all night when Diana passed away. The space-time continuum shifts and you always remember where you were at that moment.
- Dave Friedel
CNN is saying itll be devastating for the Jackson family. You don't say?
- Andrew Leahey
I remember Diana's death very well. I was up late watching SNL with a friend of mine during a sleepover party, and the news came on and interrupted it. We didn't know if it was part of the show or not.
- Veronica
Yeah, Twitter is not holding up well right now.
- Veronica
Yeah, I was moving at the time Diana died. The TV was the first thing I hooked up...
- Thomas
I was playing Donkey Kong Country on the Super Nintendo when I heard about Diana.
- Mark
This is going to be a major world-wide event, obviously.
- Veronica
Is it just me or is the internet in general feeling sluggish?
- Andrew Leahey
I am sure tens of millions of people are on the net than would normally be
- Mark
Yep, this feels just like Diana. That was worse because there was over 6 hours of waiting to find out. But it still is shuddering to see a milestone in life go by so fast.
- Dave Friedel
Micheal Jackson is/was a world wide music icon to all! Sad day in the music industry for such.
- Bryce Campbell
I remeber when the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, I was in 3 grade class and we was watching it live on TV, its was scary at the time
- Fee501st
Its not just a sad day for the music ind Bryce, believe me the world will mourn
- Mark
CNN anchor was talking about how everyone always expected him to return to the top some day. Totally did.
- Andrew Leahey
Millions will take to the streets in cities around the world
- Mark
I really hope this wasn't a pill overdose.
- Dave Friedel
I'm sad for his children. What a strange, sad life.
- Veronica
Mark, you're making me feel very old. :P
- Dave Friedel
I was an 80's baby, so I remember the talented time.
- Veronica
this is so sad. don't know what to say. I grew up with his songs, in the 80's.
- diego morelli
I'm 23, but totally remember him for his talent. He's still on my playlists.
- Andrew Leahey
The pop icons from the 60's-80's are slowly disappearing.
- imabonehead
He was like Reagan or video games. He was the 80's.
- Dave Friedel
For any of you too young to remember or experience it, Michael was the most amazing person to set foot on a stage. He completely changed the game. IMO the most amazing performer of all-time. This is truly devastating.
- Fleagle
adding his songs to my Napster Library as we speak
- Edgar Rodríguez
whats his best album im going to download it on Spotify
- Mark
I would have loved to see him perform. I remember waiting up all night to see the live premiere of the Scream video with Janet. Loved it.
- Veronica
I'm 19 but I think honestly that Michael Jackson is the most important star of the 20th century. Thriller was his best, in my opinion.
- Diego Espinoza V.
After they confirmed he was gone I turned off the news, I feel like them going on about his talent is rubbing our face in the fact that he's gone.
- Andrew Leahey
Some news channels are saying he was not upto 50 dates of his upcoming concert, but you can't predict a heart attack. A 40 year old man in perfect health can have a heart attack.
- Mark
Beat It was right before Thriller the video. The Thriller video was like a movie launch. Everyone sat around on the premiere night to see the longest video ever on MTV.
- Dave Friedel
Did anyone load that jeff golblum link on twitter? Wondering if it's a phishing site...
- Thomas
Showing confirmed both on MSNBC and Fox News.
- Kim Landwehr
Who is this CNN lady? First of all, she's putting words in that iReporter's (?!) mouth.
- Divya Mistry
I loaded, I'm not sure. Checking out mediafetcher.com
- Andrew Leahey
Kim - Fox news confirmed, and then immediately said that their reporters are waiting out side till UCLA Med Center confirms it
- Divya Mistry
His death brought a tragic end to a long, bizarre, sometimes farcical decline from his peak in the 1980s, when he was popular music's premier all-around performer, a uniter of black and white music who shattered the race barrier on MTV, dominated the charts and dazzled even more on stage. <------ I was just too young to experience that :(
- Mark
Dang, no kidding? So.....what else is going on?
- Tdubya
celebs dropping like flies, veronica you need to be careful for the rest of this week
- Anthony Kam
CNN had confirmation from the coroners office apparently
- Iain
Sad, sad day. :( I loved him when I was young and his music is still awesome. I always felt sorry for him too - he was clearly fucked up and it wasn't his fault.
- Amy
Man had issues, but holding the baby out the balcony... I can sleep soundly while chalking that fuck up to him.
- Anthony Kam
Like all artists, I judge him by his art, not his life
- anna sauce
A weird individual, but he encountered challenges totally unique to child stars
- anna sauce
I also think his popularity shouldn't be underestimated- friend went to a concert 6 years or so ago in Germany and was astounded by how many showed up- 10K? or something insane
- anna sauce
Macaulay Culkin's and Corey Feldman's phones are ringing off the hook.
- aldenoneil
Ultimate worst topic: Brett Farve Twittering about Manny Ramirez.
- Richard Hoskins
Dvorak. Always have him on please. You and him ARE TWiT. Wil Harris is also very enjoyable. So is Calacanis. Cory Doctorow also.
- Emil Alexander Swenson
star trek twit wound be timely, will levar and veronica
- Todd Proffitt
Oprah, Dr. Phil, Rachel Ray, and most important of anyone else in the world -- Tyra.
- Walter Lounsbery
With upcoming Hubble service mission, Bad Astronomer Phil Plait and Trek tie in with Levar Burton.
- Doug Torneden
Dvorak, Norton, Rose, and Calacanis...
- Gary Hise
We haven't heard Molly Wood on TWiT in a while.
- Matt Chilcote
Dvorak, Curry, Calacanis, Patrick Norton, and yes cigars and wine
- Aris/Theft
Has Curry ever been on TWiT? I'd love to see Worley on, Dvorak possibly, but if you get those two, maybe add some other old TechTV'ers if possible. Calacan would probably be good too.
- Chris
Molly, Dvorak, WilW, Jason Howell is under exposed, Tom Green, Harry Shearer, Veronica, mix it up Alex A sans Kevin, Merlin, yes please Merlin. And a bit less wine...
- Tom Hofstatter
(Buzz Out Loud + No Agenda)*GDGT Weekly/YLNT = TWiT
- MacNeurotic
0. for a systm geek round: patrick norton (in the house this time, no wandering around & connection issues), dave randolph, and david caulkins 1. stephen fry, conan o'brien, jimmy fallon for a talk show host round (if you can get them), 2. as gunny wallen put it 'no social media experts'.
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
How about Bwana and Patrick. They can do impersonations of each other.
- Joe Dearman
Anyone related to Star Trek I guess ... wonder if you can get JJ Abrams though :p
- Clarence Chiang
although very unlikely, would be funny to have george lucas & a round of star trek actors. heh :p
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
I don't like listening to people act like they know everything and yes I'm talking about Brian Cooley .. I agree with all the other choices though
- John Blanton
from twhirl
It's always funny how one person's favorite is another person's worst nightmare :) I always enjoy Dvorak, Patrick and Veronica.
- Jeff
Pete Cashmore was cranky and great although probably not popular. Ryan Block and Will Harris are always good. Worley and Molly are very good. Curry would be fun since he is opinionated. Basically choose folks who are very knowledgeable or Type A. No squeeky women who start each sentence with "um" or "well".
- Techboy2000
Wil W pls, he's a fan of both Twit and Star Trek...
- Denverken
Check out Andrew Dubber of New Music Strategies: http://newmusicstrategies.com/ He's a New Zealander living in Birmingham, England, and he specializes in all sorts of ideas on how musicians can find a market and fans online.
- Darren Landrum
Leonard Nimoy, Wil Harris, Dvorak, Molly Wood
- chipster621
Patrick Norton, Lisa Bettany, and some Star Trek with new movie out so will wheaton & Levar Burton
- Matt Pollari
Winer, Gilmore, Calacanis and Doctorow - that should be fun.
- Geoff Schaadt
Wil Harris, Andy Walker and some of the old gang from The Lab. Someone to talk the effects of technology in the entertainment field such as theatre and concerts
- Stephen Dean
Looking over the list, 95% of them are already on, or have been on the TWiT network. Lets get a little more imaginative. Like Josh Topolsky though.
- Bill Heslin
Steve Gillmor, Merlin Mann and Jason Calacanis.
- Wo
Kevin Rose, I know you don't like having him on, but he is nice to see every once and a while. Veronica Belmont would be nice again, Patrick, Maybe John.
- Dakota O'Neill
Sam Ramji, Open Source Director at MS. Talk about cognitive dissonance! Very smart guy and excellent speaker. I can introduce you if you want.
- John Kordyback
Josh Topoksky, Geoff Farinha (up and coming podcaster)
- Shawn Roberts
I really enjoyed Twit 188 with Becky Worley and Devorak. Calacanis is good too. Not a fan of P Norton
- Allison
Wil Wheaton and Levar Burton would be awesome.
- Jason Elliott
John C, Rose, Norton, and Worley. Second list is John C, Harris, Swood, and Curry.
- Kacy
Leo - I'd like to hear from Bret, et al, from FriendFeed and what they've experienced, learned from the very first major outage they have suffered (due to their colo provider losing power)
- Robert J Taylor
Daniel Suarez, author of Daemon… just finished it… awesome.
- Mike Meiners
Heard about that Daniel Suarez. Looking on Audible right now for download (Insert Audible Ad here Leo) LOL
- Bill Heslin
Molly and Lisa--Star Trek geeks; Brian; and Patrick but, as has been stated, only if he's in the house otherwise he leaves early/gets disconnected/gets called away. No more than four
- MikeNNN
Definitely could use me some Molly Wood. Also, Veronica was nice. Hell, make it an all BOL show, bring in Jason and Tom too. And I agree with John, Gruber would be sweet.
- Mike Nayyar
another new suggestion considering the fate of 3d realms: 1UP.com editor Garnett Lee - friend of Patrick, frequent Cranky Geeks guest and all around smart dude on tech subjects
- winston smith
I love the new product reviews like Pogoplug and sling iphone and using eye-fi for instant slide show from camera! LESS ALCOHOL!
- Stephan Romeo
Jason Calocanis - Star Trek Guys are a good Idea too
- Shane Burgess
How has no one said Molly Wood? She hasn't been on in a while. She definitely has a great amount of geek cred.
- Chris Kourmoulakis
Chris, Molly has been all over this biz!
- Mike Nayyar
Patrick Norton, Jason Calicanius, Or perhaps Bwana? Levar Burton is always awesome too.
- Crystal Tillman
For selfish purpose, I'd love to come on and talk about how we're using social networking to help America's homeless. But aside from that (and pardon the plug), I like Baron's choice, Trent Reznor would make for an interesting guest given the present circumstances with Apple. I also would love to see Molly Wood.
- Brandon Mendelson
John C. Dvorak of COURSE, Becky Worley (who seems very insightful and is able to hold her own with John) and lots of wine. Do not under any circumstances allow Calacanis on to do any more impressions, god that's annoying.
- Barry Ferg
Love to hear Pogue if you can get him. If not, bring back Brushwood!
- Joseph
Calacanis is always interesting and how about Levar Burton and Sarah Lane Wil Harris too
- Shaun
FriendFeed crew, MG Siegler, Mark Spencer, Scoble, Joshua Schachter, Kevin Rose, Veronica Belmont, Lisa Bettany, Bwana, Jeff Pulver, Dvorak, Brian Brushwood, Gary Vaynerchuk !
- Jay Neff
I totally think I should be on - I could explain my new theory that explains how dinosaurs aren't actually extinct, but instead exist in a parallel dimension where, among other things, purple is a flavor.
- Tad
Devorak, Shwood, Patrick Norton & Cali Lewis
- Anthony
Shwood, Wil Harris, Robert Heron, and Patrick Norton!
- Brandon Kester
Just get Dvorak and Jason Calacanis together again. Both are insightful, headstrong and controversial.
- Dave Senior
dvorak, calacanis, veronica belmont
- Brian Waters
Calacanis, Veronica, Levar and Dvorak of course
- John Gardiner
Interesting to hear what a tech-savvy VC has to say about the state of innovation in tech - what is likely to get funding - who's under presure - where money helps innovate - where VC money offers no advantage etc etc
- Ian Horley
Still on the VC theme, Guy Kawazaki is a great orator, but not sure how good a pundit he is, or how tech savvy he is http://www.guykawasaki.com/ - I think he s in your neck of teh woods too!
- Ian Horley
why not. the mythbusters vs the ghost hunters
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
I enjoy the usual suspects but I really was impressed by the recent appearance of Becky Worley. She really brought some new freshness to the show.
- Mark Krynsky
Anyone that will talk about tech and not swine flu. Dvorak, Patrick, Roger, Veronica.
- keith
I would like to hear Bwana again. Also Levar Burton is always good.
- Dylan Newstead
Kate Russell from click in the uk to add new edgy tech? dvorak of course, and any trekkies for the new movie, steve gibson to make seriously nerdy, how about roz on her new row
- Rob Williams
Bring John C. Dvorak and Jason together please! They are both great to hear in the same episode.
- Pigon (Piotr Golebiowski)
Adam Curry, not that bad of a guy Leo... Less Ryan Block, More Calacanis, More Wil Harris
- Jim Edwards
How about a Blast From the Past! A show on the old Computer Chronicles and maybe get Stewart Cheifet as a guest. I know it's history, and not really a new tech idea, but if not on TWiT maybe on another show. Maybe TDoT - These Decades of Tech, history of where it all started, with guests like Steve Jobs, Woz, Gates (he's retired now also) Capt. Crunch etc.. There is a lot of history there! just an idea.
- HamRadioActive
Discuss Apple's rumored acquisition of EA. Good idea/not, why/why not? With Kevin Rose (Apple Fanboy), Dvorak (Not so much of an Apple Fanboy) and Alex Albrecht (gamer, TRS etc).
- Michel
Louis Gray. He should start a podcast of his own. Perhaps, you could encourage him to start one.
- Michael Fidler
Leo - I would be honored and willing to discuss ANY topic you might toss in my direction. Ukiah, Sebastapol, ... all lie near and dear to my heart. any interest in interviewing a 10 year veteran of the enterprise software biz? name the time/place and i'm there. i appreciate everything you do @leo
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Kevin Rose, Sarah Lane, Calacanis, Patrick Norton, Martin Sargent and no Dvorak.
- Michael Sarge
Hey Leo, looked at Square Space thinking about changing but have a question about my domain, i think you said it's not problem to go straight to your www but do they now take over the hosting for the domain and or email, i still would like to use my own domain and my own email extention, and i just signed up with 1and1 to have imap support, does square space have imap support, not sure how that would all work.
- Charles Moore
How about how the white house could have saved 300k and a job. To do the Air Force One Photo - hire someone to photoshop a pricture of AF1 over the SoL - why did we actually need to take the picture?
- Laurence Gold
Molly. Tom Merritt, Dvorak, Veronica, ... how to choose? Good luck making sense of all the suggestions! Oh, and Jono Bacon! ;)
- Bert Van Vreckem
Dvorak/Norton are the best. Molly Wood/Meritt/Veronica are always great, as is Shwood. Wild card Morgan Webb would be neat, but people have been asking for her for almost too long.
- Victor Z
Me. Of course. Bon week-end à tous ; )
- Didier Lahely
I'd really like to see you take it to the next level and turn it into the tech equivalent of the Sunday news shows, ala This Week, Meet the Press, etc. That is, try to get more of the folks who've actually made news in tech this week on the show, combined with analysis of why what's happened this week matters. Just getting a bunch of hosts from TWiT shows and other media outlets talking about who knows whom and promoting their stuff is less appealing to me.
- Ken Sheppardson
Levar Burton - May I also add perhaps an iPhone/BB/C-phone app review/recommendation section of the show - I value the panels input on such things
- Tyler Johnston
Jerry Pournelle, Levar B or Peter Rojas. Spare us the bubble gum ones like iJustine or Lisa Bettany. Shopping exclusively at an Apple Store and being cute != tech expert/panelist.
- Adi
Always love to hear perspectives from Dvorak, Norton, Calacanis, Belmont, Wheaton & Burton, lets add Adam Curry, Economist Paul Krugman and actor Jeff Goldblum to the mix
- Dan Beyer
Molly Wood, Robert Llewellyn, Sarah Lane and maybe Dvorak
- Molly, New Ears :P
Molly Wood & Steve Gibson. It would be rant-astic!
- tamahome
Jerry Pournelle, Molly Wood and John C. Dvorak - Joe Gilbert
- Joe Gilbert
Dvorak's New World Symphony would do rather nicely - Antonin Dvorak
- David Blumenstein
wow... thanks for the love everyone! my favorite guests to be on with are Dvorak and Kevin Rose. I feel like those shows really rock.
- Jason Calacanis
Scoble, Calcanis, Gillmor, Winer and Arrington mud wrestling in pink blancmange! - Make us laugh and then they'll all be friends again!
- Jan Simmonds
Dvoracanis part 2! And Miley Cyrus. Or maybe Paul Thurrott & Andy Ihnatko, plus Kevin Rose.
- Thunderwing
from twhirl
Or Adam Curry, Alex Jones & Michael Savage. Oh, wait, that would be a special episode of No Agenda. Sorry, my bad.
- Thunderwing
from twhirl
Lisa Bettany, Jason Calacanis and Dvorak. Always. It'd be nice to see Paul Thurrott on TWiT, he's always great and it was a big MS week what with the RC.
- Henrik
After listening to todays Gilmore Gang, anybody that sounds more professional then that group would be better.
- John Wallace
It would be an honor to be on the show... www.cyberstudies.org
- Shane Tilton
Here it is the ultimate Twit Group. Leo, Patrick, Dvorak,Brian Brushwood,& Jason Calacanis
- Tom Rowbotham
what about major nelson from the xbox team
- Brad Reiter
ok, so basically we have to start with writing some articles like "what is this shackadelic stuff all about" "our comunity" "shack showcase" leanring center" "sharing center"
- Charlieray
i made you an account so you can write an article, did it email you your password? if not I can go in and remake your account
- Charlieray
basic elements and build outward ie. shackadelic mission and vision, our community, shack showcase, learning center, and private enterprise incubator.
- ka3drr
ok let me create the first shackadelic mission and vision atricle and see if I can assign it into a top menu item
- Charlieray
my thought process is a simple approach to shackadelic while allowing our concept to grow. essentially shackadelic is a learning environment that builds communities around topics or topics around communities.
- ka3drr
if you log in at shackadelic.net/administrator you can start to see the backend of how stuff is added and managed be leery of "deleteing" items. is better to unpublish and see how it effects other things throughout the site
- Charlieray
there are some great sites out there too if you google "joomla edit menu item" "joomla add article" etc
- Charlieray
I used to write all my web pages in notepad, this new stuff makes it really great to add and edit stuff and change it on the fly. teriffic!
- Charlieray
i'm in and this is righteous cool. btw -- consider changing the photograph on the front page? more in line with the digital age perhaps just a fill photograph.
- ka3drr
ok i made that with the template program so I would have to figure out how to edit it
- Charlieray
My hamshack looks like a mess as it is just being built.... but it's the biggest room in my house!! I picture one long wall for radio bench, one short wall for troubleshooting/ test equipment/ hacking and ther other long wall for other hobbies. (rc airplanes)
- Charlieray
As is true here which is why I just sent this to Twitter
- Robert Scoble
Agree - While it's a little jarring you get focused tributaries separate from your main Twitter stream. I personally find # tags a little unwieldy
- Stuart Holton
April has come and gone and their page looks as though they arent delivering the 3000s yet. Wonder what the deal is and kinda glad I didnt order it yet!
- Charlieray
"I know a lot of old people buy Buicks, but please, its the lamest brand out there... Pretty soon with this economy, the old farts wont have any cash to buy their Cadilacs and Buicks and it will be the young people supporting this industry. I wish they would get rid of BUICK instead of Pontiac."
- Charlieray
You need tech people that know technologies intimetely, not just superficial understanding.
- Jose Fajardo
Does it make me a "so called" to say that statement sounds "elitist" and not at all in the culture of sharing?
- Floyd Davenport
TechCrunch is a PR outlet for VCs and big companies. There are a handful of people who write for things they call blogs that I trust, but there aren't many. Just do what Mike did when he started TechCrunch, write about products as a user would. Forget all the fancy shit about how one company kills another. For me it was the Hype Cycle piece that nailed it. Somehow the tech is completely gone now.
- Dave Winer
I'd like to throw my hat into the ring. I know nothing, I have no qualifications, but I can fabricate BS and pretend to outscoop people with a sense of arrogance easily.
- Mike Nayyar
Even a year ago, TC was still worth reading. Then it simply went pop. What most of the times is missing in the blogs is innovation. It somehow went out of fashion =(
- Kirill Bolgarov
I think it's time for some bloggers that don't only write about the big or the supercool new stuff, but about small startups that launched and give them some honest directions on design, programming and business model. Time for some critizing.
- Max Schulze
A good chance for the longtail of tech bloggers. For example if i finally start writing in english about IT startups in Russia. Would that be interesting?
- Kirill Bolgarov
Here's the thing: The reporting on (almost) all of the tech blogs blow. I love TC, I have a love-hate relationship with Mashable, but the market is starving for a tech blog that is thorough in its investigations and not beholden to the Club atmosphere out west.
- Brandon Mendelson
Perhaps gdgt.com is what everyones waiting for
- Marcus Beagley
Are we talking general tech or specialists? The problem with specialists, they know their stuff but don't draw a big enough audience.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Definitely good time for a move in a direction more progressively focused than on pumping one's followers and the latest Twitter API skin.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Wouldn't you be afraid that Om will just buy up the blog?
- Uncle CW™
Marshall Kirkpatrick (http://beta.friendfeed.com/marshal...) at ReadWriteWeb is really good about unearthing unsung tools and trying them out in public. His willingness to build his own mashups and jump into things like Yahoo Pipes and various Greasemonkey scripts is endearing. He reminds me of Gina Trapani (formerly of LifeHacker http://beta.friendfeed.com/ginatra...) but with a different perspective.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I actually think TC (Did I say that?), RWW, Mashable, Inquistr, CNET and others have all gotten better in recent months ....
- Charlie Anzman
It does sound elitist and if you don't like them, don't read them. Good Lord.
- George Gray
maybe the top tech bloggers should write a blog post about how they are going to quit blogging in one year.
- Thomas Hawk
I would love to become the fresh blood one day but just can't find the time to really commit to writing lately
- Joe Dawson
Scoble's always been saying blogging's dead, though punctuated with a just kidding. However he says it so often it make me wonder if he is serious at least in part
- sofarsoShawn
As people have mentioned, getting started in the game is the big problem if you want to be the new guy's
- Jamie Vidamour
Agree with Jamie, I think location also plays a big factor. Not being in Seattle, Silicon Valley ( or close ) etc can also hurt your chances a bit
- Kashif Khan
include the opinions of Scientists, Engineers, Designers not just enthusiastic tech end users
- shayne catrett
Without naming names, seems to me that a lot of the current crop of top-tier tech blogs have become vehicles for self-promotion. First it's a blog, then it's a conference, then it's a line of branded bathroom products. I'd take a tech blog a lot more seriously if they committed to reporting and nothing else. Once they cross the line into becoming a "media property," they usually start to have problems IMHO.
- Kevin Pedraja
i found a site by an author who has turned off comments on his site while he's writing his next book... and says so at the bottom of each post on his site
- Chris Heath
Jackson: You can click the timestamp on http://beta.friendfeed.com to get here. Like under Leo's post, it will say 19 minutes ago, click that :)
- Jay Neff
as bad as Twitter is, it's getting more people into the web instead of looking at the web
- Matthew
Gunny, linguistics is interested in description (and theory/modeling, etc) not prescription...
- Christopher A Carr
I like facebook, but for crying out loud don't send me an easter egg or fling poo at me or ask me to be in your fracking Mafia
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Exactly. And listen; you can't read and hear everything. Stop trying to be on top of everything. It is IMPOSSIBLE to keep up with everything.
- Jackson Pollock
yeah Bwana, I love his commentary and cranky geek style
- Jay Neff
Back to TECH - what kind of Blackberry did she lose?? :-)
- Chris Dickens
Can someone post a link to that story Leo just mentioned about being cut off facebook?
- Keith Barrett
I remember when you criticized digg for having two guys drinking on stage. Bad messagewas the impression. I'm not saying what's right. I'm having some wine right now.You have a very family friendly feed here.Moderators trying to respect deceny. Drinking was not appropriate if I recall. Where are you coming from? You guys are certainly under the influence.Have you changed your tune????
- Newell Unfried
They should pour themselves a big glass of "Tech News"
- Matthew
I believe those guys that got nipped for Pirate Bay only got their limited convictions because the governments are wanting to change rules so that their activity is illegal, but realize that what laws at the time were not against them. Therefore, it's like saying "Sorry guys, we don't want you to do that in the future and we have to convict you to create precedent going forward."
- Chris Dickens
I hope they get around to talking about Android.
- Stephen Heron
Perahps Gunny. However it could look like Gary's wine sponsorship has changed a shift in attitude.My sense that that's not Leo but it is all about perceptions isn't it.
- Newell Unfried
this show didn't jump the shark, it fell off the ball
- Rodzilla
I like it when there's a lot of people in the room all drinking & eating.
- Keith Barrett
Gunny Got to tell you I just don't think This Week in Fun is fun.. Like Sarah. Just don't care for Martin.Just don't think it's worth my time. Hope they do well.
- Newell Unfried
JCD is fillibustering twitter this show...
- Chris Heath
who cares, she wasn't signed. she's going to be a star if she wants to be. It's no more faked than American Idol, which is the biggest SHAM on TV
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Is that an Angels logo on the back of JCD's laptop?
- Tom Langston
Tech pundits are quick to declare something dead
- Bwana ☠
Gunny. What's really interesting about this show is with alcohol they really let their guard down. I'm not sure they would make the comments they do otherwise.Agree?
- Newell Unfried
are any of them watching the friendfeed stream? their just talking away about non tech
- scott
viral videos merit a mention and a clip i guess, if they're good
- Chris Heath
leo checks it scott, I'm pretty sure
- Chris Heath
Wonder if Simon owns part of the recording company
- Greg
Paul Potts is the real deal! Susan Boyle is a flash in the pan.
- Chip Duford
this is true Newell and I think my disgust with this comes from having alcoholic parents and dealing with them. I don't do well with lots of drunkeness
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Mrs. Doubtfire is so, so funny. Robin Williams is one of my most favorite comedians.
- Chris Dickens
Leo - where are you getting all these knockout intelligent women in tech? They weren't around when I was growing up
- Keith Barrett
Gunny -Agree. Ditto with drunk parents and friends. Maybe they should youtube the Andrew Johnston youtube singing Pie Jesu. Now that's inspiring.
- Newell Unfried
Keith: Did Fred send you free schwag and give you a month free?
- Jay Neff
customer support via twitter should be a beneficial add on to customers that companies should be aware of but not focus on... I think companies should monitor twitter for mentions of their company to realise the actual state of the way their company is perceived and then work on fixing it
- Iain
Bwana, try one of the different IRC channels, like #unfiltered
- Matthew
none of this matters. no one but Leo cares.
- jccalhoun
The fact that companies are responding to users on Twitter better than their normal support channels tells me that they're afraid of advanced Internet users. We spend a lot of money on their products, and we also happen to have the squeekiest wheels when we get so completely ticked off when they screw up.
- Chris Dickens
alcohol, Dvorak twitter blocks, canadians - it's a Trifecta
- Steve Gillmor
She's bold though.... for a first time TWiTter (see how I did that?) she's doing a lot of talking
- Bwana ☠
It's always annoying when people do real work, and early adopters help clean it up, and then main stream takes credit for the discovery
- Keith Barrett
Sam - It's the equivalent of airing dirty laundry in public. When the response is public, all B.S. seems to go away and words are chosen carefully...
- Chris Dickens
Is it a hardware issue that prevents iPhone from having a bar code scanning app?
- Christopher A Carr
Okay, so here's my soupbox -- iPhone OS (iPhone and iPod Touch) is so so cool, but I have to say that it's not "right" for a phone. BlackBerry is so much better. The iPod Touch is a perfect companion where I can do random other stuff when I'm close to WiFI and "communicate" with my phone from anywhere in the world. :-)
- Chris Dickens
No auto focus I believe is what is stopping it.
- Stephen Heron
Sorry for the self-promo, but it's relevant; here's a very brief comparison of app switching in Android and Web OS: www.cacarr.com
- Christopher A Carr
The N95 battery life has been hugely improved with firmware updates
- Iain
Gunny: you get to keep for non-irc usage of /me
- Bwana ☠
"Geeks" are neophiles with a more-or-less narrow set of technical skills. Geeks often have at least average social aptitude, but have interests that aren't mainstream. "Nerds" might be geeky, but the label is a pejorative in that it connotes an individual who is nearly pathologically deficient in social capabilities.
- Christopher A Carr
A geek is someone that can CREATE a hacking instruction, not follow one
- Keith Barrett
I'm hating the diggbar sorry, why didn't they just improve the Firefox addon?
- robby
First place I saw the JS was Daring Fireball, which posted the message basically saying "F you"
- Patrick Sullivan
Daring Fireball made the diggbar his white whale. He talks about diggbar more than leo talks about twitter
- jccalhoun
Gee. What will their software look like when alcohol is introduced? It doesn't work now.
- Keith Barrett
I stopped watching Leo and TwiT when he started his infatuation with Lisa Bettany... oh look another conversation about Lisa's boobs, but lets not be sexist here.
- Charlieray
To suggest that any of the hosts have anything intelligent to say would be a stretch. What a shame. Think I'll rethink my podcast choices and go listen to an Audible book.
- Newell Unfried
TWiT 191 - Nuking the Jumped Shark in a Fridge
- Chris Heath
Ashton is not bigger than the Pirate Bay verdict
- jccalhoun
I think TWiT is finally wrapping up.
- Nolan Alston
This is the freakiest show i've ever seen on twit live.
- J.R. Luppold
Sorry Leo, but this really was a pretty boring episode. Guests weren't near tech-related enough (aside from Dvorak), so neither was the conversation. Plus, too much wine, and too much talking over one another (from Shira especially). I might have to finally pull out the "worst TWiT ever" card. Still looking forward to next week, though!
- Staticharge
i would say only lightly edit it ... there's probably 20 or more small edits that could be made
- Chris Heath
This makes me yearn for the good old days of the Yellow Lasers episode...
- jccalhoun
jccalhoun woz episodes were always good
- Chris Heath
Light editing would be ideal. Cut out the jumbled parts with everyone talking over each other.
- Michele
I definitely want to see another episode with Becky Worley and Dvorak. They're great guests, and you can actually discuss tech with them.
- Staticharge
DON'T LET THE LISTENERS CONTROL THE CONTENT!!!
- Chip Duford
As an avid listener to the pod cast, I find the live feed rather disappointing. You are committing the unforgivable sin of being boring.
- Andrew Thall
TWiT 191: The Twitter Episode (for real this time)
- Mathias Jost
Leo - TWIT 191 "Wine, Women, and Song"
- Keith Dishman
Leo, I can see how busy you are, but could you give us a quick status update on UGM please? :)
- Gabe
I think it was the This Week in Shira Lazar show. All I heard was ME ME ME TALK ABOUT ME
- Max Strzelecki
I must be in the minority. I really loved this episodes, but that's why I like TWiT... its great variability and personalities. Also, Grumpy Lisa is awesome and we need more Mostly Grumpy Lisa :D
- Bob M. Montgomery
Leo, you should have a new show TWiSM (this week in social media) and put all these social media personalities there (or have them on net@nite). The last few shows 188/189 were great, its always been about your (& guests) opinion on tech stories but this show (191) really went downhill rapidly with hardly any meaningful discussion of any tech stories.
- Jayesh
wow new low for twit wtf was Shira Lazar doing on this show? calling herself a "New Media Maven" and being a "pioneer" I just threw up in my mouth.
- adolfo foronda
Unfortunately I'll never get that 1 hour 33 minutes and 54 seconds of my life back (I know, my fault, no-one *made* me listen to the bitter end). I don't think adding the wine to TWiT these past several weeks has been a good idea.
- Steve
Yes I'm not so sure about the wine thing as well. If John would spend less time arguing about covering twitter news and just let Leo get on with it, the twitter news would pass much more quickly rather than being hampered on
- Andy
I completely agree, Andrew. The wine is getting old and JCD complaining about Twitter talk is getting worse than the Twitter talk.
- Joel R
Less models and more real journalists with interesting opinions. Becky Worley hit it out of the park and Molly is good as well.
- Techboy2000
Joined just to comment. Love TWIT, but NO more more Shira please, ever. So full of BS and meaningless words. Can't she let anyone else talk, ever? Ugh. Hated it. Will listen again but actively avoid shows with her on it.
- Ian
I mirror Ian's statement. Shira was intolerable. I have listen to just about every single TWiT and this is the first one I have stopped before finishing. I made it about 30 minutes in before stopping in disgust. I will not tune in if she is on. Leo, I know you take our advice with a grain of salt, but please don't ask her back on again.
- Will Szczepaniak
best infotainment show since i started watching ;) <3
- skyjumpy
Can all this "eye candy" commentary cease? It's sexists and insulting. Clearly, if that's your assessment, you weren't paying attention. Lisa Bettany has a master's in linquistics, which means in all likelihood she's brighter than any of us on this thread in a dozen different ways. She's also a talent photographer, gadget lover, solid writer and just happens to have done some modeling,...
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- Bob M. Montgomery
from twhirl
Leo: I've listened to TWiT since episode 1. I'm getting sick and tired of the Twitter talk. Please, please, please, please(enough please) of the Twitter talk!!
- Kevin Adair
Wait, what the hell am I looking at? You're looking at now now. What happened to then? We passed it. When? Just now. ... ... When will then... be now? Soon! ?!
- mikepk
Hey Ben, I seen to have lost you on Twitter. Have you been losing contacts? Also, do you work late or get up early? I always see you up beforre me and I get up at 4:30 AM.
- Paul L. McCord Jr.
Ben only sleeps during the day.... I hear he's a vampire.
- Charlieray
@marcschuler and @sarik @joergland from Germany and I are having fun drinking Tres Generations Tequila that was sent to me and a bunch of other bloggers today.
- Robert Scoble
Which Tres Generaciones did they give you, Robert?
- Alex Scoble
Great hanging out tonight, Nice meeting you all, @marcschuler and @sarik @joergland. Have a safe trip home. @Chris, its Robert's Living room, we were at the Ritz earlier but they frown on you consuming tequila you bring yourself. Decent sunset tonight, and lots of fun.
- Luke Kilpatrick
It's my house. There's some cookies on the table in front of Milan.
- Robert Scoble
...and my doctor says I can only have red wine! hrumph!
- Bill Sanders
Good to see you Sarik & Jörg. Looking forward to meeting you soon in Germany again :)
- Timo Heuer