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Scoble’s No Internet Anonymity Rule - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Micah, Alex Scrivener, Morton Fox and 21 other people liked this
Or, what I think about it.
- Anthony Citrano
I would rather everyone be anonymous than no one.
- jeneane sessum
Gerard: as I said in the other thread this would be impossible to enforce so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
- Robert Scoble
Robert I think we all realize it would not be enforceable but what I'm going after is the idea behind it - that *were it enforceable*, it would be a good thing. To me, the underlying idea that anonymous speech is a bad thing and should be eliminated is rather authoritarian and terrifying.
- Anthony Citrano
Colby: everything that I have seen negative on the Internet is due to anonymity. Can you link to one positive thing? Mini Microsoft but even that would be much better if the guy who wrote it would sign his name.
- Robert Scoble
Anthony: well, I don't see it as a good thing. I have freedom of speech already and would die to defend that. Anonymity is for cowards.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, speaking out on the internet against oppressive governments is not a bad thing. And as I have stated previously, many revolutions start in anonymity. Again, rules of absolutism don't allow for both sides. Anonymity is a tool and it can be used for good and bad.
- Tim Finucane
Kind of a night of drastic comments from the Scobleizer, huh?? Everything negative on the internet is due to anonymity. Yikes thats a whole new round of overstatement. I love following you Robert and agree way more often than not but that's silly.
- Cody Heitschmidt
tim: what revolution started with anonymity? Certainly NOT the American one.
- Robert Scoble
It most definitely did start with secret meetings. The crown didn't know identities until after things got under way.
- Tim Finucane
Robert: You just spawned numerous blog posts and threads with that one. I agree with you up to a point. One of the two that I have blocked on FF was determined to be a troll and supposedly anon. However, there are many countries that speaking up and signing on the dotted line will get both your head and hand chopped off.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Cody is right. I did overstate that and I am sorry about that.
- Robert Scoble
Robert... i would follow you into the fire.. and here is why we all follow you: Your are passionate. Sometimes it gets in your way because you overstate things but then you admit you are wrong. A guy with 30,000 followers could be big headed enough not to admit something he said wasn't quite right. It's cool that a little guy in Ks can make a contrary statement at you and not just get blocked and you roll over him. Now admit you were wrong on the rule against anonymity too. lol just kidding.
- Cody Heitschmidt
Robert -- There is legitimate reason for anon speech, especially on the internet. What I think you really want is a "Personal Global Internet Filter" that allows the removal of the ugliest side-effects. Even looking to the American revolution, pen names and aliases were used countless times by the likes of Thomas Jefferson, et al. There is a legitimate purpose to it... the statement that no revolution was started by anonymous is a bit of a stretch.
- Mark Philpot
Don't admit you were wrong on the rule unless you believe it... until you believe ! hehe lol Great freaking discussion who started this whole mess with the rule comment?
- Cody Heitschmidt
I believe it was started by Robert's response to Laura Fitton's question: "What one "rule" would you make about the Internet?"
- Tim Finucane
To all those under pseudonyms: Why? Are you truly in fear of reprisal? @Dtrizzle a link to your blog profile quickly reveals you. @Corvida do you have a reason?
- Mathew A. Koeneker
@Robert Scoble (scobleizer): What's so negative about my blog? Well, other than the fact that I don't apply myself. Sorry, there've been too many firings and too many "we won't hire you" situations because of uptight control freaks in power who can't stand employees who have their own minds. Anyone who really desires it can find out who MiniMage is, but I feel the better for not broadcasting my real name, and so do my parents.
- MiniMage
from NoiseRiver
One rule for the internet is that all data is equal. The second rule is that there are no other rules. I think Scoble's idea of not anonymity is becoming more a reality with people's lives becoming intertwined with their online identity. I would like to preserve anonymity for whistle blowers, etc. Anonymity is a tool that can be used or abused.
- Erik Weese
MiniMage many many more people have been hired for their blogs than fired for them and I can't think of an instance where someone who was fired wasn't behaving stupidly. We have a whole chapter in our book about that.
- Robert Scoble
corvida isn't anonymous. I have talked with her on the phone. Minimicrosoft is pretty anonymous but I know at least one person who knows who he is.
- Robert Scoble
Dtrizzle - The bit on your educational background while perfect for a resume can provide an easy way to start skip-tracing you. Not that I am. Just one of the little tricks I learned where tech meets accounting.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
it is amazing the conversations that can start with a simple word or two. I am at a wedding with people who have left Iran to get the freedom of speech so understand well the problems with using your real name. One guy here was in Iranian prisons for years. He is not afraid to stand up in public against injustice.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert Scoble (scobleizer): Do you remember the Chronicle of Higher Education article where someone talked about being on an interview committee? These EDUCATED folks attitudes were explained thus, "Several committee members expressed concern that a blogger who joined our staff might air departmental dirty laundry (real or imagined) on the cyber clothesline for the world to see. Past...
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- MiniMage
from NoiseRiver
Scoble I think he was referring to the fact that I don't use my real name online at all. As for the person who asked why, because I don't want people Googling me. I like to keep my personal life separate from my online life. Same person, different interactions and I don't want them overlapping in any way, shape, or form.
- Corvida
@Corvida - Why keep yourself so fragmented? Then you have to remember who you with whom. I am with Robert for the most part on this one. You instantly gain more respect from me if your are proud enough of your name to attribute ALL of your actions whether in the VW or RW to it. You are an American are you not? Unless, you have a TS like my folks then who or what are you hiding from. Telling me that it is just a personal choice is a cop out. @Dtrizzle gives some valid rationale for his decision.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
There are certain place on the net that you NEED anonymity !! Take a look at some Forums that ONLY focus on vulnerability disclosures. Each and every one of them is only known by a handle. Chances that you actually associate a handle w/ real name /face is near impossible.
- Peter Dawson
I could argue the same. Most in my situation do take that approach. My disease is just that a disease. It is what it is. Like I commented earlier there can be valid reasons; I just wanted to hear Corvida's rationale both from a personal interest as she is just another human being as well as from the pov of the well known blogger.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Interesting convo. I actually talked to Mark Hopkins about this. He brought his anon handle into his identity. I've kept mine apart. I don't agree with no one being anonymous; I happily existed online for years and can still write about personal issues and my children without compromising their (or my) privacy.
- Cyndy
I vote for anonymity. If you are anonymous and threatening though, realize that I also support using every tracking method possible to make a community safer. People can not yell "FIRE" in a crowded room. I can not call my neighbor a "RAPIST" just because I feel like it. Regulated Free Speech is ok. Unregulated free speech is not, just as I can not go around town physically hitting anyone I want to ("Freedom of Action").
- Mitchell Tsai
The vast majority of my college friends (Harvard 1982-89, age 40-50) are still petrified of Facebook due to Corvida's concerns - and I have mostly techy friends. There are discussions on our alumni boards (on & off Facebook) about all the potential career dangers. About 30-40% of my college friends are on LinkedIn because they understand resumes & how you can control the presentation of...
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- Mitchell Tsai
P.S. I've spoken with Corvida on the phone also. We were going to visit Georgia Tech together, but plans didn't work out (and my college friend who's a professor there turned out to be out-of-town also). Bummer.
- Mitchell Tsai
Assume ANYTHING you e-mail, post on the Internet, or say on a phone is recorded somewhere and scanned for verbal/textual keywords. My first company is now partially owned by the C... and we process information to find ter...... Over 10 years ago (1992-98), I attended academic data-mining conferences where people from the phone company presented the algorithms they were using to scan...
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- Mitchell Tsai
“regulated free speech”, Mitchell? Can you be serious?
- Anthony Citrano
Yep.
- Mitchell Tsai
well i think the concept is absurd, myself. but i'm out. also, why post 5-6 messages in a row instead of 1? it's messy and inelegant.
- Anthony Citrano
Paragraph marks in a comment would work too. I don't like how everything runs together in one comment...
- Mitchell Tsai
@Robert people tend to act differently online than they do in real-life, anonymous or not. They perceive a disconnect between their online profile and life. Makes people be more direct, confrontational, and sometimes hostile. They don't feel bound by the same social rules (have respect for each other).
- Alexander van Elsas
I can fully understand that some wish to be anonymous on the web. But thinking that the things you do online are disconnected from your offline life is stupid. I am not anonymous online and I am aware that my interactions are always visible.
- Alexander van Elsas
Resurrected because of this: http://friendfeed.com/rww...
- Anthony Citrano
Even aside from my opinion that the Imus thing was a bunch of BS from a clueless Outrage Nation, I disagree that providers ought strip away anonymity every time someone's feelings get hurt.
- Anthony Citrano
There are good (edit: adequate) legal processes for handling truly abusive cases.
- Tinfoil 2.0
This is a long thread and I may have missed it in a later response, but what about people finding you in person through the internet? I play WoW and my guild leader was stalked by someone who knew only her first name, state, and profession. He called her and flew to her area to find her. This is just a simple case of a nut job, but the internet is full of them. When you bring other countries, with less freedom into the mix things just get messier.
- Heather
The thing is, he never defined his terms either. Is creating a bogus account and logging in through a proxy for a one-time flame the same as using a long-term pseudonym for mostly constructive purposes? I think not. There are so many good and valid reasons for not living completely transparently.
- Tinfoil 2.0
WOW. I was trying to figure out why I had this pop up from a year ago. I still pretty much side with The Scoblezier with a few exceptions. If you are blogging, chatting, or even surfing on-line....odds are pretty good that a determined individual or govt entity can find you out. You may think that you are "anon" but in reality you are not at all. Plus, I have a lot less respect for folks esp in this country that are unwillling to put their real names in their posts.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I didn't feel like cutting and pasting so sorry. But if you think that your on-life persona is somehow sacred and secure from your real life identity then you have some harsh realities to wake up to. This is the information age people.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I wonder where FriendFeed would fall on the Twitter client stats list if everybody left Cc: Twitter checked for a month...
Karoli, Kol Tregaskes, David Berrebi and 10 other people liked this
I keep it checked permanently :)
- Roberto Bonini
Roberto: Are you using FriendFeed as your main Twitter posting service or is it one of many?
- Paul Jacobson
I use Tweetdeck and TwitterFon. :)
- Roberto Bonini
But yeah it is where the majoroty of my tweets come from.
- Roberto Bonini
As do I, Roberto. I'm not piping other stuff into Twitter, though. I've tried it a couple of times but it feels like spam.
- Leo Laporte
Yeah that would be an interesting to see. I just don't use it because I already forward my FriendFeed messages into Twitter via the Feed Publishing feature in the FriendFeed settings.
- Rolf Schewe
Leo: You can choose what pipes into Twitter. I personally only send status updates, not everything.
- Rolf Schewe
Same as rolf, onlu push status updates not everything
- David Berrebi
Online Alarm Clock - http://www.kukuklok.com/
Alex Puchianu, Marc Dong, Alp and 23 other people liked this
A must use if you're having problem to wake up in the morning...
- Orli Yakuel
from Bookmarklet
Damn crazy Swiss and their wonderful coco! *bookmarks*
- Outsanity
http://bluefive.pair.com/alarm... - alarm clock, just download it. You can use your favourite song as alarm sound)), and you don't need internet conection, just your PC is being worked all the time.
- obolonskyi
Misha, did you just said the word "download"???
- Orli Yakuel
What's this download thing you're talking about?
- Amit Morson
Nice programming exercise but you really don't want to count on this to wake you up. So many things can fail - your connection, your ISP, even your OS ... Nice for quick reminders to turn off the oven or something.
- Yuval Atzmon
atzmon, you can always use something for back up (or use this as back up to alarm clock, mobile, etc.,).
- Orli Yakuel
@Orli -Yes))
- obolonskyi
Well, if I use another (more reliable) device then this web app is redundant. Nicely done though.
- Yuval Atzmon
Brilliant. During exam time I set up as many alarm clocks as I can. Gnome Alarm, Amarok, my iPhone, physical alarm clock, and now... kukuclock. When 4 months of grueling work comes down to waking up at 7:20 am... the more clocks the better :)
- Derick Valadao
I've used this a few times as a quick egg timer
- Jason Cazier
This might come in mighty handy at work...
- Mark Edwards
צעצוע נחמד
- Eyal Rofe
You are breaking the EULA if you use iTunes to design, manufacture, or produce nuclear, chemical or biological weapons: http://i.gizmodo.com/5204274...
Jason Cazier and Tinfoil 2.0 liked this
Dang, and I thought I could get a patent for doing what I thought was novel and non-obvious with iTunes.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Geek And Poke: Cool Geeks - http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/geekand...
Mari Smith, Alessandro, Barry Owens and 5 other people liked this
Otherwise known as "keeping up with the Gray's" syndrome.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert Scoble (scobleizer): Who's Gray? Louis? :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
+1 Robert - good one!
- Susan Beebe
haha, I can totally relate! :)
- Mari Smith
This bud's for you, Mr. TechCrunch reading compulsive F5 pushing early adopter guy. :D
- Hao Chen
Can you see the Comcast truck lurking behind the tree? - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Frank Paynter, Anthony Farrior, Matt Craven and 3 other people liked this
Jeff Bezos: the container for the book needs to get out of the way (talking about the Kindle). Agreed!
John Budnik, Bill Powell, Dan Liebke and 7 other people liked this
Love the Kindle idea - waiting for its better days.
- Erhan Erdoğan
The Kindle for the textbook market is perfect...I think it has found its target market.
- Suhit Anantula
My college life would be so much easier and probably cheaper, with a kindle serving me textbooks. Better yet a platform for Professors to distribute reading assignments, to wake up with my day's readings downloaded would be heaven!
- Jason Cazier
from twhirl
It needs to get out of the way, agreed. But in the meantime, it needs to be less ugly.
- Anthony Citrano
textbooks yes, mainstream adoption - difficult
- AJ Kohn
Yes, has so much potential. Imagine a speed reading application on that thing...chunking sentences for you to help your eyes absorb all those long reading assignments
- Kim Mahan
[Detroit News]: Poll: Obama, McCain locked in tight battle for Michigan - http://x.techwheat.com/166
Royce Mathew, Jason Cazier and Dave Winer liked this
"Barack Obama and John McCain are locked in a tight Michigan presidential race, according to a Detroit News-WXYZ Action News poll that illustrates why both camps consider this one of the battleground states that could determine who wins in November."
- newsjunk.com
Heath ledger performance is one of the greatest ever captured on film. I'm not kidding... More evil than darth vadar. Amazing. Absurd.
Brad Butner, Lon Harris, Kyle Bunch and 22 other people liked this
wow. high praise, indeed. In 24 hours time, I'll be seeing for myself. Better than "Silence of the Lambs"?
- Steve Isaacs
I can't wait to see Dark Knight. Thanks for the feedback. I've heard Ledger was amazing, have seen just a few clips.
- Charlene Kingston
I can't wait to see Ledger's performance in the Dark Knight, read your email on IMAX going to make sure I view it there!
- Joe Dawson
"...one of the greatest performances ever captured" that's a grandiose statement. i haven't seen the film, so i can't pass judgment. (Usually), landmark cinematic performances take time to distill and mature like a fine wine. i'll check it out
- raheel naqvi
Jason, he was awesome. Although I love Jack Nicholson, Heath was the perfect Joker. Just enough Devil inside.
- Fred Tabsharani
Saw it late Saturday night, Heath was amazing, and the movie itself was as close to perfect as it gets.
- Andreas Matern
The entire cast was stellar. Oldman, Freeman, Bale, Cain, Eckhart, Maggie...and of course Ledger. Freaking incredible - there were moments I just shook in fear of the man.
- Ben Parr
Perfect money-making formula: Four Hot Guys and An Action Movie
- chantelle
After watching the Dark Knight at a Friday midnight showing, I literally cannot see any of the previous Batman movies in the same way.
- Bassam Islam
Five dudes. Four cameras. One World of Warcraft. - http://projectlore.com/
Charles Desaulniers, Brian Zalewski, Dean "Karnatos" Michaud and 3 other people liked this
needs more cameras and more heroic instances
- Jason Cazier
Heading to my grandma's going away party. Mama Mia was the WORST movie I have EVER seen! I ended up listening to Buzz Out Loud.
Jason Cazier liked this
Hanging poolside at Calacompound. Setup kiddie pool for Taurus and Fondue--they are going insane!
Jason Cazier and Neil Bakker liked this
Take some pictures of the dynamic duo.
- Donna Mugavero
Second Simpsons movie on the way - http://www.animated-news.com/2008...
Jason Cazier liked this
Am I the only person that thought the first one was ok, but not really great? That show works best in the frame of a 30 minute satire.
- Eban Crawford
I dunno, but I'm pretty sure I'm the only person that saw a half dozen Simpsons episodes and decided I didn't have any pressing need to keep watching.
- R. Francis Smith
THE WORLD IS OUT OF IPHONES!!!!! - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Arda Çetin, sean808080, Matt Randles and 26 other people liked this
She's a funny one. heh
- Daynah
I debated putting the butthead comment in there. I didn't want anyone to get fired lol
- justine
I think someone needs to cheer you upto.
- Akshay Dodeja
Use Shazam
- Akshay Dodeja
saw that one... this morning on youtube. ur a naughty girl
- NoahDavidSimon
That was Talkng Heads on the hold music. Great video.
- David Jacobs
Great video. I'm glad you are participating here too. ;)
- Alejandro
SAI 25 Live - Real-Time Values - http://www.alleyinsider.com/sai25...
John Budnik, Sean McBride, Kevin Sablan and 2 other people liked this
'This chart shows the current values of the companies in [Silcon Alley Insider's] World's Most Valuable Digital Startups list.'
- Chad Dickerson
@maxineappleby Actually, I donated my speaking fees ($70k+) to put foster kids in private school over the last 2years.peaceout- jcal style.
Martin Liechti, pcnerd37, Betsy Weber and 3 other people liked this
I think this is very honorable of you!
- Jason Cazier
Did you just say "jcal"?
- John Denver
Mahalo staff is going to Dark Knight screening tomorrow... I can't wait! Its supposed to be best superhero film ever made. I will tweet it.
Ian Rathbone, Simon Wicks, ComicList and 2 other people liked this
I am in Hollywood tomorrow night. That sounds like fun!
- Robert Scoble
Hate to miss it, but I'll be out fighting crime dressed as a bat.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
please, no spoilers
- Phill Price
why can't I work at a place that considers going to a screening work?
- Rob Fuller
our staff saw it on Monday and every single one thought it was a masterpiece!
- Roger @ CineVegas
70 Amazing Business Cards - Fubiz™ - http://www.fubiz.net/blog...
nik, jho, Amir Gharaat and 27 other people liked this
I want to know where you find printers for those cards.
- Ray Grieselhuber
There are loads of great cards in there, I like the razor blade...hope it's not very sharp!
- Toby Graham
lol - true
- Ray Grieselhuber
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