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Addie's Pizza Pie Opens in Old Spuds Location in Berkeley - http://www.sfgate.com/columns...
Chelsea Pearl and Chester liked this
"Sweets and pie: Jennifer Millar of Sweet Adeline Bakeshop and Tom Schnetz of Flora and Dona Thomas are teaming up on a new Berkeley project. The pair has taken over the former Spud's pizza space (3290 Adeline St.) to open Addie's Pizza Pie in February or March. Millar says the plans are to make thin-crust New York style pizza and frozen custard, popular in the East and Midwest. "It's like soft serve, but better," says Millar, adding that no one around here is making the dessert. As for the pizzas, she says they'll make eight signature pies a day and a few seasonal ones. The pizza will be sold by the slice or the pie. Customers will also be able to build their own. Millar says there will be salad offerings as well."
- Spidra Webster
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Best shop front, ever - http://flickr.com/photos...
Flavio Santos, Kazutaka Ogaki, dailyphoto and 85 other people liked this
"Guitar Store" - in Southampton. Cool! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
they are probably open until 11!
- Morgan Haley
+1 Morgan... and they close at 6 to "get ready" for tonight's gig.
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Heavy. Duty. HEAVYDUTY!
- Morgan Haley
aweaweaweawesome :)
- `aziz´ Alihan ÇETİN
bringing back the wall of sound
- Greg Guitarbuster
Great idea for a shop front.
- jjprojects
Bumping some old good posts. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
that's great! lol!
- Be Cookie Industries
San Francisco Memories: Woodward's Gardens - http://www.sanfranciscomemories.com/woodwar...
CW™, Mona Nomura, Lars Clausen and 8 other people liked this
"The property was two large city blocks in size, bordered by Mission, Valencia, 13th and 15th streets. In order to make things more convenient for the visitors, Woodward built a tunnel under 14th Street, allowing people to walk from one block to the other without having to cross an outside street. Admission was 25-cents for adults and 10-cents for children."
- anna sauce
from Bookmarklet
A tunnel! Under 14th street? WOW
- anna sauce
That's a cool site...
- Chester
This image is super dreamy http://www.sanfranciscomemories.com/woodwar...
- Mona Nomura
Fwd: If you pull in front of a cyclist and slam on your brakes, that's assault with a deadly weapon: http://www.velonews.com/article... (via @cyclelicious) (via http://friendfeed.com/wirehea...)
Chester and endiaferon liked this
Thanks for the link...I had wondered how this case would turn out. So glad that there was a conviction. It will be interesting to see what the sentence will be. Hope this and similar cases get publicized...as much as careless drivers are a hazard, what scares the crap out of me are the out-and-out attacks by local yokels who live along popular cycling routes.
- Chester
This sound system will go nicely in the '65 Mustang http://www.yankodesign.com/2009...
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Furthest Point From McDonald's | Dagoosh! - http://blog.dagoosh.com/post...
Jason A. Samfield, Tanath, paniaguai and 76 other people liked this
"the furthest point you can get away from a McDonald's in the contiguous US is in South Dakota, where you can be 107 miles away from the wonderment that is the McGriddle."
- Benjamin Golub
from Bookmarklet
Mmmmm, McGriddle...
- Brian Chang
This is pathetic. I have three within 5 miles of my house.
- Will Sloan
I think I have 2 within 5 miles. One is within walking distance and the other is the next city over. I'm sure there are others I've managed to ignore, since I don't eat there.
- Admiral Anika
I think McDonald's on Manhattan island are like Starbucks there - you can see the next one from the front entrance of the one you're at.
- Brian Chang
I remember once reading that McD's objective was that no American be more than 10 minutes away from an outlet.
- Piaw Na
just thinking of McD's makes me want to puke... (sorry about the implied image there)
- Harold
Alright. Now do this with Starbucks.
- Louis Gray
Just a sec ... ok ... got sunglass on now ... proceed with Starbucks version ...
- Tom Horn
That is so cool.
- Brian Johns
According to aggdata.com, there's 12,275 McD's, but only 10,995 Starbucks. The clear winner in number of shops is Subway sandwiches, with a whopping 22,944 locations. If you consider all types of businesses instead of just foodservice, FedEx wins with 52,065 locations.
- Otto
How are there that many Subways, yet we just got one within 3 miles of me earlier this year.
- Admiral Anika
That's only in the USA, mind you, although Subway will soon pass McD's at most locations worldwide: http://www.yumsugar.com/5162960
- Otto
RT @payote Now this is a wedding invitation: http://dropular.net/drop...
Christopher Sacca and Chester liked this
I wonder what the physical print dimensions were...
- Chester
SFGate: Tonga Room a landmark? Not so fast - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin...
Richard ¿digame? Walker and Chester liked this
"An architectural expert is making the case that this bar - where rain falls every 20 minutes - should be preserved as "the best example of the Polynesian Pop style ever built in San Francisco." It's not just retro kitsch, it's "the most ambitious and best preserved of the Tiki bars remaining in California.""
- Mike Doeff
from Bookmarklet
Enjoyed that article too. King asks all the right questions while being appropriately reticent about advancing any particular vision of what is and is not historically significant. I would miss the Tonga Room, somewhat, but find it hard to get behind mandating its preservation through governmental protection.
- Chester
Thanks for posting this - the question about preservation occurred to me when I heard they are going condo, but I also doubt the Tonga Room merits such protection - reverse-eminent-domain if you will.
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
Who would win in a 100m race from a standing start? Usain Bolt on foot, or Jamie Staff on a track bike?
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Usain Bolt's WR 200m time set in Beijing is 19.30. During the Team Sprint final in Beijing, Jamie Staff set a World's Best time over a single (250m) lap of the velodrome from a standing start of 17.136.
- Graeme Shaw
I imagine a 100m race would be an easy win for Bolt.
- Chester
I have new information on this. According to http://www.tissottiming.com/ the first man in a Team Sprint (from a standing start) often covers the first 125m in 10.5. So over just 100m especially if they put a smaller gear on the bike to improve acceleration, I reckon a world class track sprinter probably could beat Bolt!
- Graeme Shaw
My baby pictures and photos from China before coming to the US, finally all online - http://anayang.smugmug.com/Pre-US%...
Mutfak Sirlari©, Ted GUO, AgentRouge and 66 other people liked this
Most of these pictures were tiny, so the resolution is pretty poor. All the black and white ones my mom developed herself in our closet, er, darkroom.
- Ana
from Bookmarklet
Amazing! See a lot of sceneries of China in 1980s that I've never seen before.
- K.D.
I need to do this with mine as well. Good reminder.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
I really need to do this with my old photos too.
- Shannon Jiménez
Fabulous photos!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
haha, that's Beijing in 1980's:)
- K.D.
nice photos
- Hong Kok Siong
very good pics, re-wake my 80s memory
- Benjamin Zhang
those are great
- Steve C
娃哈哈哈
- Lian
So cute! I have to scan in some more photos too.
- anna sauce
Is that BeiHai park?
- anna sauce
That's awesome Ana. Did you scan them all in by hand? I've been wanting to do this with all my old photos for some time.
- Michael Leggett
The netbook guru is @sascha_p Yo, Sascha, which Netbook are you recommending now for less than $400?
'Like' robot (frɐnc), odeedo, Varun Shenoy and 19 other people liked this
that's a good question Robert, I would also like to know which is the best!
- Thomas V. Fischer
I did a squidoo writeup but it's a few months old (may require refreshing) http://www.squidoo.com/netbook...
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
Toshiba NB205-N312, Samsung NC10 and Eee PC 1005HA-M would be my Top 3 right now. Why? Because of build quality, batterylife and great keyboards.I can also tell you that ARM and Qualcomm will hit the market very soon and these guys will enter it with some aggressive pricepoints, means below $200! NVIDIA Ion and Tegra will also get into the first devices before christmas, means you will get 10 times more graphic performance compared to the Intel chipsets.
- Sascha Pallenberg
Sascha: That's incredible what OS will they be running?
- Eran Even-Kesef
Sascha knows
- Rodfather
The Nvidia Ion systems are getting released with Win XP. I saw Tegra prototypes with Linux and (believe it or not) a kinda pimped version of Windows CE, with fancy desktop icons. Not sure if they really wanna resurrect this old platform but it looked kinda appealing to me. The ARM and Qualcomm devices will run Linux and GoogleChrome OS will support them, too. We are at a real breakeven point at the moment. New platforms, new operating systems and new business plans and services
- Sascha Pallenberg
I would want to wait until Windows 7 netbooks are being shipped to see how well they perform (in particular battery life). (Currently running OS X on a Dell Mini-9 & happy with it except for the small keyboard keys)
- Steve de Mena
@Steve de Mena my first tests with the RC1 of Win 7 shown me, that we will see a slight improvement of battery life on the recent Intel Atom platforms
- Sascha Pallenberg
still diggin' my HP1000. the slim one, only SSD. running Unbuntu and rocking along nicely.
- MikeAmundsen
Santa, I have been good for Christmas an- atom, ion, win7, ssd, touch, LED, 4G, 3G tablet with keyboard would be beautiful under the tree.
- Robert Higgins
@MikeAmundsen this is also one of my fav. netbooks. Unfortunately i only have one with a 3 cell battery, which isn't offering enough batterylife for me. @Robert Higgins oh yeah! This would be just too good to be true... but hey, dreams can come true :)
- Sascha Pallenberg
I'm hoping the Asus T101 will be basically a 1005HA with a convertible touchscreen. If the T101 ever makes it to the public.
- Rodfather
Great information! Thanks Sascha!
- Martha
@Sacha: yeah, i just ordered the larger battery. kills the sleek profile a bit, but should be better. also have the mini VGA shipping this week. once i have that, i look forward to using the HP1000 for presentations, too.
- MikeAmundsen
Jeez time to update my lens with Sascha knowledge :)
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
@Rodfather I am sure that ASUS will go for the N270/N280 which will offer you a way better performance compared to the T91 with Silverthorne. I am meeting with their developer team today, cause it seems they wanna share something new with me :) @MikeAmundsen i did my last 10 presentations on my Samsung NC10, well i even created them on the Samsung using prezi.com, which i can highly recommend. - @all i am going Netbook hunting this afternoon at one of the computer markets in downtown Taipei. Newness to come
- Sascha Pallenberg
i'm sub'ed to @netbook_news and SaschaPallenberg in FF here. thanks to RS, too!
- MikeAmundsen
Thanks for the follow @MikeAmundsen and thanks for the feature at Robert Scoble. Hope to see you during IFA 2009 in Berlin or at the IDF in SF.
- Netbooknews
Just some more internal updates. ASUS will launch a Moblin Eee PC in October, a Moblin Eee Keyboard might follow. They also work closely together with Google on Chrome OS. Google setup a new Office for Chrome and Android and they already have 35 developers here. I am gonna do a video in ASUS' "future appartment" next week to see all their new developments and ideas for the next couple of years. Another big Topic for ASUS will be Services and hell, they have some cool ideas!
- Sascha Pallenberg
I really really hope T101H will be released. T91 keyboard is crampled a bit. T101 with Win7 will be AMAZING.
- Kirill Petrovsky
@donor, it will enter the market this year and right now, i even think it will sport the diamondville core and not the silverthorne, which should offer some more performance. I've seen tons of Win 7 Eee PC yesterday.
- Sascha Pallenberg
A 3,000 Mile Walk, and an Incredible Time Lapse Video - http://lighterfootstep.com/2009...
Chester, Ňicķ, Roberto Bonini and 9 other people liked this
Here's someone who took "getting out into nature" to a new level. Christoph Rehage set out on a nearly 3,000 mile walk -- filming an amazing video on the way.
- Chris Baskind
from Bookmarklet
The title isn't oversold. It's really cool. :-)
- Chris Baskind
Awesome. Reminds me a bit of Kintaro Walks Japan - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Mike Reynolds
BedBunker - http://www.uncrate.com/men...
Anna Haro, Ginger Makela Riker, Iván Abrego and 7 other people liked this
"Keep your arsenal of firearms safe, secure, and ready for a midnight invasion with the BedBunker ($2,200-$4,000). Boasting a powder-coated 10 gauge steel body, quarter-inch doors, a heavy-duty fire resistant sealing system, and high-security Mul-T-Locks, the BedBunker replaces your typical box springs, fitting into most normal bed frames with threaded legs for easy adjustments, and holds as many as 32 rifles and 70 hand guns, or more than enough firepower to last through the first few stages of House of the Dead 2."
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
Or porn.
- Derrick
For a fire rated safe of that size, it's not a bad price. Good for storing documents and backup hard drives in as well. If it's not camouflaged with a bed skirt, though, you're going to need to bolt your bed to the floor...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Like I always said, If they are big enough to carry that safe out the door. They can have it :D
- Moved to Facebook
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Twostcard from Paris: http://yfrog.com/6c70rj
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Forvo: the pronunciation guide. All the words in the world pronounced by native speakers - http://www.forvo.com/
Kenton, Jannifer @wordsforliving, Chester and 4 other people liked this
Got this from Svartling, btw
- anna sauce
from Bookmarklet
Follow The Tour De France Online - Wired How To - http://howto.wired.com/wiki...
Carlos Ayala, Chester and Kol Tregaskes liked this
Tips for getting your Tour fix online
- endiaferon
from Bookmarklet
If you haven't tried it yet, Bike Route Toaster is OUTSTANDING. Just mapped the Idaho Blue Cruise century tomorrow. http://www.bikeroutetoaster.com/
Chester and endiaferon liked this
Capybara - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
Maggie, PR Graffiti, Mona Nomura and 14 other people liked this
"During the Christian celebration of Lent, capybara meat is especially popular as it is claimed that the Catholic church, in a special dispensation, classified the animal as a fish in the 16th century. There are differing accounts of how the dispensation arose. The most cited refers to a group of 16th Century missionaries who made a request which implied that the semi-aquatic capybara might be a fish and also hinted that there would be an issue with starvation if the animal wasn't classified as suitable for Lent."
- Tudor Bosman
from Bookmarklet
It's a rodent of unusual size.
- Tudor Bosman
I don't believe they exist!
- Stephen Foskett
They're fake! Like the MOON! And New Zealand!
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'm reserving "capybara" as the internal codename of my next FF project :)
- Tudor Bosman
Not just "unusual size"... they're the largest of the rodent family! I have pictures of them from zoos if you'd like to see :)
- Ana
Wait. Fish?
- ha3rvey (chee-la-key-les)
zoos? i've seen wild ones... around 20 capybaras at the place i work.. i took some pics.. the pics are bad because it was getting dark and i was very distant.. i used 4x zoom.. i couldn't get closer because they run away easily. http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Leandro Koiti Sato
Nice documentary here: http://www.joost.com/02000ht...
- Jérôme Flipo
这是什么动物啊 没见过撒
- 佛陀
Lifehacker - Enigma Desktop 2.0 Released, Adds Installer, Widget Manager, and Templates - Enigma - http://lifehacker.com/5158878...
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Flickr Founder Calls Nuked User 'A Dick' | Gawker - http://gawker.com/5288759...
TheHenry, Davis Freeberg, Michael Hart and 64 other people liked this
Look, I think flickR should be able to control their network and its content however they wish. But this policy is ridiculous and evil (wiping out all user data and not letting them get it back) and they deserve all the negative press that comes with it, especially when they act like dismissive assholes.
- Anthony Citrano
from Bookmarklet
Is he the guy that wrote that hilarious exit letter re: silver mining?
- anna sauce
Same dude anna.
- vijay
god, I love Stuart (finally read post) nice way to stand behind your colleague.
- anna sauce
exactly. : ) Title is misleading.
- vijay
I'm not a fan of Flickr but it's hard for me to summon any outrage on behalf of that dick.
- Chester
Check this out.. last line from Johnson- "Ask Heather to fill you in". lol! Credit to Stewart for showing the level of restraint he did.
- vijay
flickr is a great service but their terms of use and the ways they enforce them makes them much bigger dicks than any justifiably irate user. And I am not trying to compliment them. But it's typical corporate internet arrogance.
- Rick Powell
What a great chance to respond to a CR issue without having to represent the company admirably... given a chance to say what he actually felt, I think Stewart's response was maybe not totally called for, but totally funny and he has the right. Way to back up your former peeps too.
- SAM
Well, whatever. I think Stewart is a dick, but far fewer people will read that than have read and will read his e-mail and will make their own minds up.
- Rick Powell
So, if somebody emailed me to ask me to mediate a problem they were having with my former employer, I suspect that my response would both be ruder and shorter.
- Wirehead
I completely agree Anthony, it is unbelievable and I have a Pro account :-|
- Luca Conti
@Wirehead Well, in that case, you, just like Stewart, would be going out of your way to be a dick yourself. All he really needed to write was the first sentence, or not respond at all. But flickr's policy of deleting a user's photos without warning and without appeal, pretty much sums up corporate assholism for me.
- Rick Powell
My capital rules of staying on the internet: 1. be nice. 2. if you can't be nice, be civil. 3. if you can't be civil, be offline. They served me well in the last 15 years. (and - honestly - I trust Heather's judgement in managing communities a wee bit more than a random guy trolling comment threads, being nuked from existence and throwing a tantrum about it)
- dario
There is usually little difference between a nice person enforcing bad corporate policy and a bad person doing it, except for the style in which it's done. Apologies to "Heather," I'm sure, since I don't know her personally. [insert eye rolls here.]
- Rick Powell
this is why i stopped using flikr. They dont CARE.
- Jim Hague
As somebody who manages online communities for a living, I'm going to have to say that the response here was probably the right one (granted I haven't seen the original threads, and he could have afforded to be a little more civil with his language). Trolls live for this shit. And most of them are dicks.
- mike fabio
Troll is a dismissive word, used ubiquitously and uncritically. It's been MY experience that while there are genuine trolls, the word is not infrequently used to dismiss someone who brings up an uncomfortable political issue. No excuse for being a dick, of course.
- Rick Powell
What concerns me in this issue is that if someone at Yahoo decides that they disagree with something I said or the way I said it, they are willing to completely remove my account. It makes me distrustful of the cloud as a place to store my data. With that said, Yahoo was perfectly within their rights to make this move. It just seems like they don't care to engender confidence in the integrity of the data on their servers.
- Scott Ohlemacher
I have wondered if flickr so easily deletes paying customers photos because they have never provided an easy way for anyone to download all of their collection once it's in the cloud. I guess they think, why would anyone want to do that?
- Rick Powell
@Rick Powell: You're right that there is no excuse for being a dick, but dickery is subjective.
- Scott Ohlemacher
And I think deleting a paying customer's photos, even if he violated terms of service, and not the law, for instance, is simply bad corporate policy. That is really being a dick, in my opinion.
- Rick Powell
Amen, Rick, Amen. Perhaps the real issue was that flickr was afraid of losing the White House photostream?
- Scott Ohlemacher
Wow, just wow. Just goes to show you that money (or talent for that matter) and class don't always go hand in hand.
- Alex Scoble
Finally Flickr's actions as Judge, Jury and Executioner in deleting unwanted members is getting some mainstream coverage due to the political angle. Even if some disagree whether it was the correct forum to air his grievances on the WH's detainee photo policy, it appears to have been measured and civil. Certainly not grounds for a non-appealable deletion. So exactly how does Flickr safeguard our photos (i.e. backups), if deleted members cannot be retrieved? Cloud-computing, or merely dust?
- Nils Sandin
Yeah- seems like a draconian move by Yahoo.
- anna sauce
another Community Manager from a different site chiming in... Flickr was totally within their rights to toast this guy *and* his account. The TOS on any site is not just an agreement between a single user and the company with regard to their own content, but also between the community at large and the company that OTHER users will be subjected to the TOS. This guy was spamming and...
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- Edubya
Spam? What exactly was he selling? If I read the accounts right, every American needs to have those pictures shoved under their noses until they wake the frak up. Really, the vagueness in rhetoric that everyone just accepts here is amazing. They were pictures of torture. It was a political protest. Yahoo was certainly within their "rights," although the idea of assigning rights to a corporation makes me queasy, but that doesn't mean I think the world is better off because Yahoo gets to do what it wants.
- Rick Powell
@Edubya They have a right and obligation to uphold their TOS. However, asymmetrical responses like this are not a good way to keep up a good image.
- Scott Ohlemacher
Yeah, this definitely falls under the definition of protected speech in my opinion. Yahoo isn't looking good over this.
- Alex Scoble
"protected speech"? I don't think the constitution said you were guaranteed the right be able to post on flickr. The constitution doesn't mean everyone has to put up with your shit. A political protest in flickr comments is a pretty lazy freedom fighter anyway. That said, wiping out a paying customers stored images without a warning is really messed up, and it seems like they do that quite frequently.
- Richard Lawler
It may not be constitutionally protected speech in this context, but in another it would be. That should at least make Yahoo pause and handle the situation carefully and diplomatically just to avoid the backlash.
- Scott Ohlemacher
The constitution says that political speech is protected. It doesn't specify forum.
- Alex Scoble
I think that Anthony's first comment here sums up the situation admirably. Flickr did something legal that was morally ambiguous.
- Scott Ohlemacher
Just because speech is protect by the constitution doesn't mean that a private service has to allow unfettered expression of it.
- Kevin Pedraja
No, it's not protected speech but it just points out why we can't trust corporations with our data, with anything. They don't give a shit and they don't have to.
- Rick Powell
Ah, I love it when people speak up to defend the rights of corporations! Give them exemptions to all moral obligations! So encouraging for our democracy. Whether or not they have the legal right is irrelevant if we are talking about ethics. This is, however, the kind of culture we have.
- Rick Powell
A rule against spamming comments != a law prohibiting free speech. How is a corporation morally obligated to put up with spammers, no matter what the content is they're spamming?
- Richard Lawler
This may not hold up to scrutiny, but as a publicly traded company reliant on their image to maintain a user base and therefore profits, don't they have an obligation to shareholders to handle situations like this in the most diplomatic way possible?
- Scott Ohlemacher
Sometimes the truth hurts and hearing it from someone you hope will help you hurts even more. I've seen Johnson's trolling and he deserved this treatment, plain and simple.
- Rene Wirtz
Corporations are not morally obligated to do anything. That's the point. That is why they cannot be trusted. Further, I didn't make that equivalency between spam and free speech. You did. Not to mention which the word "spam" is debatable in this case, not least because corporate policies disdain politics, by default, a position which, of course, always favors the powerful.
- Rick Powell
debating whether this is a free speech issue or not is moot. Flickr (or pretty much anywhere else different from your own site) is private property, they have community guidelines which are designed for "the greater good" (which translates nicely to: having the largest number of satisfied users/customers possible). Flickr community guidelines basically boil down to "Behave. If you don't, it may very well be one strike, you're out".
- dario
Rick, not to defend Flickr because I think they've handled this poorly (from a PR point of view if nothing else). But if you sign up to use a service and agree to the TOS, you are voluntarily agreeing to a certain code of conduct. If you violate the TOS, you are subject to the penalties of doing so. Johnson is free to take his protest to another venue. That said, Flickr could be a bit more accommodating and give the guy his images back.
- Kevin Pedraja
and yes, losing your stuff sucks bad, and yes, they probably should implement some sort of "pre-ban" which lets you download your content back on - say - a two weeks notice before the termination of your account.
- dario
Is it an appropriate solution for us to "vote with our eyeballs" and boycott the service until they change some of these policies in a public way?
- Scott Ohlemacher
Peeps, the First Amendment protects you against government action. You have no constitutional right to a flickR account. There's a difference between saying "flickR sucks for doing this" and "flickR has no right to do this." They certainly do have a right to do it, and I have a right to think they're assholes because of it. But I guess that's what I said initially (sorry.)
- Anthony Citrano
@Kevin Have you read the TOS lately? Do you know what NIPSA means? I certainly don't know, after reading it a dozen times. Their TOS is not as arcane, opaque and just plain retarded as ebay's, which must set some sort of record in the history of incomprehensible corporate jargon, but it's not exactly transparent. I think they can ban me if they want. But after accepting my money and...
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- Rick Powell
also, on the "morally reprehensible" issue: this has nothing to do with ethics. Turning over your users' personal data to the chinese government IS unethical, and still, as a publicly shared company, you have to answer to your shareholders first, which might -or might not- be interested in your moral high ground
- dario
@dario What you described is why, in my youth, I believed in economic democracy, which, I think, only the Zapatistas actually advocate now.
- Rick Powell
I think you people are confusing how the flickr software is presently implemented with an arbitrary policy decision. This is common with people who don't know what they are talking about but like to sound like they do. I twittered this on Tuesday... unless you've actually hacked big software that runs on large server farms, STFU about how you'd change how a large website that runs on large server farms would work.
- Wirehead
Oh, I love that one! Technological barriers, the last refuge of the nihilist. Give me a frakin break. This thread has seen it all, right? First-name dropping, specious arguments about the rights of corporations, equating speech with spam, and now claiming the high ground for those who "have hacked big software." I believe I'll have another beer and thank the gods I have never been anywhere near large server farms. Big cow farms, yes.
- Rick Powell
Anthony...I agree. Chalk it up to another Festivus miracle, my friend! lol
- Carlton Hackett
@Wirehead That was needlessly vitriolic. Couldn't be civil and say something like "There are technological limitations related to policy implementation in communities of this size" rather than making assumptions about the skills and experiences of the people in the discussion and then disparaging them? You didn't contribute to this conversation at all, you detracted from it. @everyone else: sorry for feeding the troll.
- Scott Ohlemacher
Dude, I'm just stating an unpleasant truth. But it's very popular amongst people with a little grain of knowledge to assume that they can apply this everywhere. Do I sit here and make suggestions for how cattle ranchers might improve production? No, because I recognize that I don't know a damn thing about cattle ranching and would probably suggest something really stupid.
- Wirehead
On that note, I'm going to go have a beer and watch the hockey game.
- Scott Ohlemacher
I'm a bit sad that Mr. Johnson lost all his pictures. (Rule 1: always make backups!) But the more I hear about his one-man crusade, the more I agree with Stewart Butterfield's assessment. There are right ways to get one's message out, and wrong ways. Mr. Johnson thought his cause was so noble, his message so urgent, that the normal rules didn't apply to him. Alas for his 1200 pictures, he was wrong.
- Pat Rice
@Pat I would guess that a large percentage of the world's dissidents would say that the normal rules don't apply to them, and they would be right, else they would not be dissidents. As for your comment, your rhetoric is precious (alas? a bit sad?) and your argument, if I can call it that, empty. Anyone else?
- Rick Powell
Alex: The constitution defines how government must act. The speech is protected from the government squelching it. No private company is obligated to allow anyone to speak in any way other than the way it wants. Period. The constitution does not give you the right to make the New York Times print anything and everything you want, nor does it give you the right to make flickr do it either.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Most law, and most particularly, the Constitution points back to principles that Dick Cheney, among others, refers to as "quaint," but that doesn't mean they're not valued or have no value, or don't constitute, get that word, the basis for understanding moral behavior. Most citizens understand this. Corporations, unique in history we will eventually realize, are somehow allowed to opt...
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- Rick Powell
Big, scary, god-like (it's a technology, Captain, but none like we've ever seen) server farm or not, I expect backups have to be available. Maybe only for a week (I think that's how long I was told Sprint's picture mail server kept backups), but for some period of time.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
See, you are just proving my point, BoringMage. There is a difference between backups and restoring deleted accounts. Given the expected failure rate of disk drives, if flickr didn't keep backups, you'd know. :)
- Wirehead
Flickr could disable the account and prevent harmful activity without deletion of customer data, and that is what they should be doing in these cases. This is more about consumer rights than freedom of speech.
- Mike Chelen
I'm afraid it cannot be "protected speech" if you spam the same comment 10, 20 more times on individual pictures. Then it becomes heckling. These are the flickr terms: "Don’t vent your frustrations, rant, or bore the brains out of other members. Flickr is not a venue for you to harass, abuse, impersonate, or intimidate others. If we receive a valid complaint about your conduct, we’ll...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
If they did warn him and he kept spamming, then he deserved what happened. If he didn't back up his own data after being warned and continued doing the same thing, who can he blame?
- Richard Lawler
Jeez, I keep commenting, since so many people find so many creative or not-so-creative ways of avoiding the real points. There is no easy way to back up one's flickr collection, which in some cases involves clicking twice for each photo - which can run into thousands of clicks. If you knew what you were talking about, then you would already know this. flickr's API does not allow...
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- Rick Powell
Yes, we've heard your opinion Rick. That's great. It still doesn't justify the guy's behavior. It doesn't entirely pardon flickr, and I don't think anyone is, but he made his choice.
- Richard Lawler
Well, Richard, if anyone had actually heard my opinion then they would comment as if they understood the contents of my opinion, which you clearly haven't. I have not made justifications about his behavior, mostly because I really don't fully know the extent and content of his behavior. Do you? Perhaps you can fill us all in? It seems clear he was obnoxious, as many people are who want...
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- Rick Powell
Rick, I am not sure about your point - in order to upload to Flickr you need to have the image in the first place, so the assumption is you still have the originals and could re-upload to a new account (I certainly have my images on 2 drives here plus several places online). If you somehow lose the originals you should take copies back out of Flickr immediately, not rely on Flickr (or anything) as your sole copy. PS: have you tried http://www.ghacks.net/2009...
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Congratulations, Joelle, your life is a lot more stable than mine was. I started uploading to flickr when I was homeless and had no computer of my own. Borrowed cameras, with personal images, and gift memberships from readers of my blog. This year will be the first time I have to decide whether to flip the bird to flickr or pay up. 4 years of connections, not to mention photos. Not an...
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- Rick Powell
Just for the purpose of backup perhaps you can switch the images from private to public (but w. adult warning to avoid people being offended) - run the backup, then change it back? Just circumvent the system temporarily so you have your images at least! I totally agree with you that the feeling that the plug can be pulled under you is an uneasy one, but the cases where flickr has done...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
You have totally disarmed me. ;-) I will think about trying that, and any indie, open, distributed options you have would be welcome.
- Rick Powell
I have a lot of thoughts on this as some might expect. May have to break them down into a few posts. I saw this letter from Stewart well before it appeared in Valleywag. It first appeared in the DeleteMe Uncensored group that I admin on Flickr. My first problem with the letter is that I don't think Shepherd should have posted it there or anywhere at all. It was private correspondence...
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- Thomas Hawk
Had Shepherd asked Stewart for permission to post it and Stewart said yes I think that'd probably be ok then. But I don't think Shepherd did that and I don't think Stewart gave permission for it to be published. While I support Shepard's fight against Flickr, I did tell him that I didn't think it was right that he published this email. I know that I personally won't publish emails...
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- Thomas Hawk
Stewart and Heather are friends so I'd think it fair to assume that he'd stick up for Heather in this case without admittedly knowing many of the specific details. I think a lot of us might as our first reaction stick up for our friends. Unfortunately, I think Stewart's response turns this debate more into a personality thing than it should be. I think there are three problems with the way that Flickr handled the Shepherd Johnson case.
- Thomas Hawk
1. Obama campaigned on a platform of transparency in Govt. Deleting critical comments is not transparency. Obama is using social media to enhance his transparency. Deleting critical comments doesn't add much to his credibility in that department. This is not an Obama campaign photostream. It's the official Whitehouse photostream produced by your and my tax dollars. The Obama...
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- Thomas Hawk
2. Shepherd Johnson should not have had his account deleted over the comments that he posted. He linked to a photo (not his but from another photostream as allowed by flickr that was also nuked) depicting detainee prison abuse with a message protesting Obama's support of a new law to suppress additional photos from being released. Of all speech political speech should be given the...
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- Thomas Hawk
3. Flickr should not be deleting *any* accounts permanently and irrevocably. To be so arrogant that they would assume that they will never make a mistake in an account deletion is mind numbing. The fact that they refuse to address this issue and simply dismiss anyone who suggests otherwise is an equally horrible position of arrogance. Instead Flickr should change their policy with...
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- Thomas Hawk
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- Nils Sandin
Scott, this is not just about a Flickr account deletion. According to Shepherd, Heather was not aware of some of the comments that were deleted on the President's stream. The only way those comments could have been deleted (if not by flickr) would have been by Shepherd himself or someone who controls the President's stream. I've personally written to the White House on it and posted a...
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- Thomas Hawk
And there is no political bias on my part in this one. I voted for Obama and support him as my President even if I might not vote for him again. I'm a Democrat who believes strongly that censorship is wrong, even if it's done by a popular Democratic President.
- Thomas Hawk
Political speech does not and should not deserve a wider berth if the guy was breaking the rules. That should be entirely content agnostic.
- Richard Lawler
When are you going to realize that Obama and Bush policy wise are one and the same?
- John Blanton
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Richard, the problem with that position is that the "rules" at flickr are very, very subjective. According to Shepherd, Heather told him his account was deleted because he posted a link to a detainee abuse photo and because he was "spamming" flickr, and yet Heather refused to define what "spamming" was and there is definitely no specific rule about not linking to detainee abuse photos....
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- Thomas Hawk
so in Flickr's subjective implementation of their rules? Yes, I do think that political speech should be given a wider berth. Not directly relevant, but U.S. Courts have consistently given political speech a wider berth when dealing with First Amendment issues.
- Thomas Hawk
If you think flickrs rules are bad then thats great, but its not censorship for them to have and enforce rules on their own website.This is not a first amendment issue and flickr shouldn't treat it as one, that amendment does not give you the rights being implied here. If your Dad sent a complaint to flickr about you posting his photo and you continued to repost it, then sure your stream should be deleted.
- Richard Lawler
Richard it is actually censorship if Flickr deletes an account. It might not be Govt. censorship (which also may or may not have taken place in this case). Censorship doesn't have to be Govt sponsored to be considered censorship. It may be *justifiable* censorship to you but it is still censorship.
- Thomas Hawk
No, it's censorship if they remove it because of the content, which is exactly why whether it is political speech or not should never come into play.
- Richard Lawler
Moral of the story: Don't be a dick.
- © b e e n s w a n k
Richard, Flickr did remove Shepherds account because of content. That's exactly why his account was deleted. Content of an image (detainee torture abuse) and content of his words (protesting the Obama administration) that they called spam but would not define.
- Thomas Hawk
You've decided it was the content based on their lack of a hard definition for spam, but that doesn't make it so. What he was doing doesn't serve for justification for how he went about doing it.
- Richard Lawler
Not sure anyone in this long thread has corrected the assumption that this is "censorship." Censorship is inherently a government act. If it's not an act of government, by definition, it isn't censorship.
- Jon Lebkowsky
At least, if you folow the strict, original defnition of the term. There's a huge issue here, but I don't see it as an issue of censorship.
- Jon Lebkowsky
Censorship by any definition is anyone preventing anyone else from fully using our right to free speech. .this is censorship of the worst kind.
- John Blanton
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Jon: Censorship is not limited to government accts. Your confusing "censorship" with "government censorship," a common mistake that people make. Since you mention the definition of the term, check out the definition in the dictionary. Richard, according to Shepherd, his account was deleted in part for the photo and in part for what they call spamming (without any notice or warning I...
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- Thomas Hawk
Again, you have a right to free speech in /public/ - Flickr is a /private/ place. Just as you can dictate the speech that goes on in your own home, so can Flickr in their message boards. It may be censorship, but it is not infringing on your right to free speech We are all free to bitch about Flickr in public. So's the guy they dumped. Flickr is free to censor any damn thing they like...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
It is censorship, but it's perfectly legal and "fine" for them to do, however offensive and inadvisable it may be
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob, I've never said his speech on Flickr is protected. I've never said that what Flickr did her was illegal. Flickr can censor me for wearing a green shirt if they want to. Nobody's disputing that. I'm saying it's bad policy and as one of the most active community members who has put thousands of hours into the site and thousands of pieces of content into the site, I think their...
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- Thomas Hawk
I do wish actually though that the White House would in fact address the question of whether or not they censor comments on their own Flickrstream. I think it's a fair question in light of Obama's oft promised new "transparency" in Govt.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas: no you never said any of those things. And i have to agree that it's bad policy. I think in general censorship sucks no matter who does it. And definitely I think you're correct that the Obama Administration should address that question. It's a fair question regardless of promised "transparency" - it's a fair question because it is OUR government. (of, for, and BY the people, right?)But, we've sen on several occasions already that the Obama White House cannot & will not live up to it's promises.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
If this is just a debate over corporate policy, then perhaps we ought to stop slinging around emotionally-charged & easily-misconstrued words like 'censorship'. Calling it censorship implies that it's a First Amendment, freedom-of-speech issue. It isn't. P.S. To Rick Powell: nice ad hominem there.
- Pat Rice
Thanks Pat :) Well said.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Pat, calling it *government* censorship (which in fact may or may not have taken place here) implies that it's a First Amendment freedom-of-speech issue. Calling it censorship is simply stating what it is. If FriendFeed decided to delete a user's account for posting images of prison detainee abuse that would also be censorship. Fortunately for all of us, Friendfeed doesn't seem to be...
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- Thomas Hawk
It does suck, but we do have to remember that this type of censorship is also an exercise of freedom as well. No matter how much it sucks, it is Flickr's right to do it. (no matter how bad it is for their users, or their own company it's still their right -we are all free to engage in our own stupidity) "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -Voltaire
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
If I paint my message on the side of the Washington Monument, and the National Park Service sends somebody to wash it off, is that censorship?
- Pat Rice
"I will defend your right to say it" indeed - but I won't defend your right to yell it, say it over and over right in someone's face, or heckle in a public space. And I wont defend your right to say it by force to people who dont want to hear it. None of these are free speech - As soon as your speech infringes on the free speech or freedom of others, it's no longer free speech. If...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Sorry, Joelle, I can only say you've never encountered an issue where your passion and your politics overrode your sense of propriety, (I have) because that is what you are talking about now. Unless you have suddenly become a public figure at the level of the President of the United States. Free speech as a right protects us against the government, not against corporate assholes, which...
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- Rick Powell
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I Was a Sniper - Stories Of One Man Who ENJOYS Killing People - http://jarrettsblog.com/?p=909
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"This installment of Undercover Interview is with a Marine sniper who not only went to combat, but offered up his services a second time in Iraq after he had left the Marines because he “wanted to fucking kill people.” I don’t judge, I just ask the questions…..and the answers are insane. Enjoy."
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- Brad Williamson
This article is NUTS.
- Brad Williamson
Indeed.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Like seriously... THIS ARTICLE IS NUUUUUUUUUTS.
- Brad Williamson
Reading the entirety of the article, it makes sense. This is the kind of person you want to be a sniper and he's been trained into this mindset. Most people want to be successful at their job and his just happens to require killing people.
- Rob Haas
So much better than that Tom Berenger movie...
- Chester
A very literal performance of Bonnie Tyler's "Total Eclipse of the Heart" http://www.youtube.com/watch... (via @amylola, who made my day)
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ROFLMFAO. And I don't say shit like that lightly. Wow.
- Chester
I know, man. It absolutely killed me. I thought it would get stale, but it kept going. Wow.
- Christopher Sacca
Google uncloaks once-secret server | Business Tech - CNET News - http://news.cnet.com/8301-10...
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"Google is tight-lipped about its computing operations, but the company for the first time on Wednesday revealed the hardware at the core of its Internet might at a conference here about the increasingly prominent issue of data center efficiency."
- Christopher Sacca
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As someone who worked on this incredibly secretive team for years, it is amazing to see them talking publicly. I love it. I have no doubt the impact that Urs and his rock stars can have on the energy footprint of the world.
- Christopher Sacca
Sun Micro disliked this post so much that they are trying to sell to IBM
- Bill Strathearn
Just went to Stacey's Bookstore 40% off closing sale. Have rarely been so sad to save.
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Everything's amazing, nobody's happy - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Bike-shoving, fact-twisting NYPD cop is fired - http://carlosmiller.com/2009...
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"Patrick Pogan, the New York City Police officer caught on video body slamming a bicyclist for no apparent reason during a Critical Mass ride last year, has been fired."
- Thomas Hawk
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troubling video of a cop pushing a critical path bicyclist and making him crash.
- Thomas Hawk
It's cases like this and the Bart cop who shot a subdued suspect in the back that make me so concerned about the new UK police photography laws. Neither of these cases would have had any traction if there hadn't been video evidence of the officer's crime, and knowing that they're not being recorded will only make cops feel more free to overstep their bounds.
- Kevin Fox
Kevin, exactly, this is why it's so important to keep our liberties with regards to photographing the police. I'm sure that the vast majority of cops are good cops, but there definitely are bad apples as well and it's important that those bad cops feel the pressure of being photographed in order to regulate their behavior. What the cop did in this video was completely uncalled for and I'm glad he is now off the force and can't abuse his authority in future incidents.
- Thomas Hawk
Kevin. Unlike the USA we only have a few armed units. And the police don't want the law so aren't really going to enforce it anyway IMO
- Phill Price
NYPD response http://theerant.yuku.com/reply...
- Maz
Phill, you don't have to be armed to abuse power. The bike-shoving cop didn't use anything but his hands, yet he's still facing civil and criminal action.
- Kevin Fox
"fact-twisting" aka lying sack of shit. hope that dude ends up cleaning toilets in a federal prison for his next gig. "bad bicyclist?" let's compare that to bad cops and get some perspective here
- Cee Bee
It doesn't make sense? He must've known the guy and been waiting for him or something; there's just no motive.
- Neil Barnwell
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*LOL* Maybe NYPD cops should go on a training stage in Amsterdam to learn how to deal with byciclists.
- Rene Wirtz
For anyone who has had to wait 30+ minutes at an intersection less than a mile from their home on a Friday afternoon, the motive to bodyslam someone riding in Critical Mass is completely understandable. This is obviously a separate issue from abuse of power by a police officer which is reprehensible but if that hit had been applied by someone in plain clothes I would have said he fulfilled a long held fantasy of mine.
- Bryan Power
Heh, yeah. I've become quite the hardcore cyclist and I'm always careful to not look too much like a "critical mass" sort of hipster or one of those road cyclist with the spandex outfit that matches the frames that matches the tires that matches the saddle... because either way the drivers are gunning for you. OTOH, the whole point of a trained paid police force is that they will enforce the law, not their personal vendettas and biases, so it's fairly inexcusable on their part.
- Wirehead
I'm very interested to see what occurs, with regard to criminal penalties. Knocking the guy to the ground was bad enough, but the much more serious action, in my opinion, was knowingly bearing false witness as a police officer. The "tackle" *possibly* was performed for a legitimate reason, but the falsifying of reports was done for selfish individual reasons and erodes the legitimacy of the entire system.
- Chester
InfoWorld Special Report - Terry Childs: Admin gone rogue - http://www.infoworld.com/archive...
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"The missteps and misunderstandings in the curious case of Terry Childs, network kidnapper, has the IT world riveted -- and InfoWorld blogger Paul Venezia determined to get the real facts behind the media circus and nonsensicial technical claims San Francisco hunts for mystery device on city network The SF rogue admin Terry Childs installed a 'terminal server,' which appears to be a router, on the city's network, but investigators haven't been able to find or log into it Terry Childs: The jailhouse interview Thirty minutes with San Francisco's most famous network administrator Sorting out fact from fiction in the Terry Childs case San Francisco's network-abuse claims raise more questions than answers"
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
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San Francisco - The Snitch - Breaking: Police Identify Man Accused of Stabbing Bike-Riding, Off-Duty Cop - http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnit...
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"The man accused of stabbing a bicycle-riding, off-duty San Francisco Police officer is Nicholas Batchelor, a 29-year-old white male from the Peninsula. Batchelor is charged with attempted murder and assault with a deadly weapon stemming from a still-murky incident at Haight and Steiner Streets Tuesday afternoon. Witnesses described Batchelor and the cyclist exchanging words before Batchelor got out of his older, green Cadillac and stabbed the officer. Batchelor fled the scene, but witnesses eyeballed the license number for the green caddy -- which is, truth be told, not a subtle vehicle. Police caught up with Batchelor at Potomac and Waller Streets, not far off. He remains in County Jail."
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
Favorite sites for planning/booking air travel? Mine are sidestep.com and seatguru.com.
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virtualtourist.com planning; kayak.com booking
- Prolific Programmer
kayak's email alerts are really nice
- Benjamin Golub
kayak.com
- Bindu Reddy
I like Farecast: the price predictor is a really neat feature. Sometimes, I feel like it's like predicting the weather, but it's nice to have some guidance.
- Mark Trapp
For international air travel mobissimo often has better offers than sidestep.
- Kevin
Yapta.com for post-booking airfare monitoring
- Richard Chen
kayak.com (which I think owns sidestep)
- Michael Leggett
While flyertalk has a lot going for it, it's too high volume; I personally couldn't live without expertflyer.com, but that's a pretty expert tool. Oh, itasoftware.com's tech demo is also very nice, and is how I've found some of my lowest fares, and has the rad feature of airport "or" searches, which is nice when you just want to go *somewhere* but you're flexible: "SFO;SJC;OAK to MAD;BCN;FCO;CDG for about a week any time in March," for example. Honorable mention for seatguru, though!
- Benjy Stewart
matrix.itasoftware.com (log in as guest) - ITA is the software company that powers a lot of these airfare search engines. They have a nice month-long search interface. You can grab the itinerary you want and ask any travel agent to book it for you.
- Michelle Fullwood
itasoftware for sure, use the routing language - http://matrix.itasoftware.com/cvg... - to get very specific requests
- Carl Haynes
+1 to itasoftware.com. It rocks. Oh, and kayak.com for a more user-friendly version of something quite similar
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
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