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What would the web look like if each time a developer wanted to change their site, it had to be approved by a committee with a 2 week delay?
Nick Granado, John Wang, Vinay and 56 other people liked this
Like 1995 when I was trying to upload MBs of data over a 14.4kbps dial-up modem for a website.
- John Wang
Like the Apple Store? :)
- Ray Cromwell
Please allow 6 to 8 weeks for delivery
- Charles Ying
You've obviously never worked for a large company.
- Mistletoe Glen
You would be amazed how many large corporations still do this.
- dthree
First off, it doesn't matter what the developer wants; decisions are made by the product manager and reviewed by the higher product review board and the VP of product. Then the UED team gets involved and the design has to be done, redone, pitched, explained, and revised. The change also needs to make it onto the next quarter's roadmap, where it can be evaluated in light of other...
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- Mistletoe Glen
I'm not ignoring the fact that corporations go through a lengthy process to ensure the quality of their products. Of course Facebook does this too, and so do I personally. The point is, we are the ones who are qualified to determine when the app is ready. Apple is just a middleman, and they have a very limited ability to test the quality of our app.
- Joe Hewitt
A couple times Apple has caught bugs in our app and notified me of it, but they have also missed huge bugs that went through. The app on the store right now is orders of magnitude more buggy than the one sitting in the review queue.
- Joe Hewitt
I can only assume the review process is there for Apple to test compliance with their terms of service, and any bugs they find along the way are incidental. Thank goodness the web doesn't have a terms of service and a review queue.
- Joe Hewitt
With 40 apps per day per reviewer, I'm surprised the approval process works as well as it does.
- PXLated
Has any other company ever been faced with as many apps in such a short period as Apple - Just curious
- PXLated
If we developers always programmed everything to be perfect before releasing it, nothing would ever get released. ; )
- John Wang
it would look like an MMO they release half broken stuff every two weeks like clockwork
- Robert Higgins
Your question mentioned nothing of Apple and the App Store. I was merely responding to the question asked. Specifically, if, each time a developer wanted to change their site, it had to be approved by a committee with a 2-week delay, it would represent a vast improvement in the speed of delivery of site changes and probably a corresponding decline in the quality. Apple imposes their...
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- Mistletoe Glen
Sorry, Glen, the context in almost all of my tweets relates to iPhone development :)
- Joe Hewitt
Of course, Apple can do whatever they want, and I can go elsewhere. I am making suggestions on how they can improve their flea market and prevent people from going elsewhere. I believe the web has set the precedent that big platforms like the iPhone can thrive even without a centralized quality control bottleneck.
- Joe Hewitt
But Joe, the iPhone isn't like the web as a whole - it's more like gaming platforms and probably more open then they are. Will be interesting to see what happens on Android and if in fact it is more open, and if so what kind of chaos may ensue.
- PXLated
Are you serious - "prevent people from going elsewhere" - Where? And pass up the iPhone audience/marketplace? Even if Android is a success, developers won't leave iPhone in spite of all the bitching.
- PXLated
The iPhone is not a "gaming platform" until they tell me I can't develop anything but a game for it. A significant chunk of iPhone apps, mine included, are basically iPhone-optimized websites written in Objective-C. I admit that I don't see anyone, myself including, abandoning Apple over this issue, but I do believe that the quality of apps on the platform is being hurt by it. Just because other platforms are even more restrictive, like Playstation or some mobile platforms, is not an excuse.
- Joe Hewitt
It's not an excuse but none is needed, Apple developed a platform and set the rules just as the gaming platforms did/do. I'm personally not sure the (overall) quality is being hurt either.
- PXLated
In fact, maybe Apple should be a lot more restrictive - 65K apps probably confuses the hell out of many users. Maybe they need a rating system and then start eliminating the poorly performing apps. Get it down to a reasonable (best of breed) 5K ;-)
- PXLated
"Apple developed a platform and set the rules" - well there's a news flash. I don't think anyone needed to be informed of that. I think Joe's just trying to make the point that centralized control isn't necessary for the good apps to rise to the top. Would you consider the web to be a success if there were 65k sites (please don't get pedantic and point out that sites aren't apps; the argument holds for any reasonable multiplier)?
- Joel Webber
"Get it down to a reasonable (best of breed) 5K" - And exactly from what larger pool would you take that best of breed? If the breed's too small, you can't *have* a best-of-breed. The web's an unholy mess, but its size and chaos are precisely what makes it successful. People still manage to find the good stuff.
- Joel Webber
It would look like the website where I work....
- Don Schuetze
What would the web look like if a developer could be shut down for an alleged ToS violation? Like FaceBook?
- Kevin Marks
That's a lot better than how web applications ship. Please allow a few months before we change it.
- Burcu Dogan
Apple is famous to put limitations at the beginning and then drop them ( remember drm?) I am pretty confident that the approval process will be easier and quicker in the near future.
- funkyboy
from iPhone
You would have [insert any corporate review process here]. For significant changes, this is understandishable. However, it gets insidious when everything looks like a nail ... even if it isn't.
- Joe D'Andrea
read it late though, but i would hate it, then maybe web might not be as popular, interesting and powerful
- testbeta
It actually WORKS!
Eric Logan, jeunhommalunet, April Russo (app103) and 33 other people liked this
gamma is on socnode3, beta on socnode2 and alpha on socnode. alpha is subscribed to beta and beta is subscribed to gamma. The screenshot above is made from alpha and friends' page! and it was IMMEDIATE! —if you can call moving from a firefox tab to another "realtime", then this is realtime :)
- directeur
You can see it live here: http://socnode.appspot.com/friends...
- directeur
I love to see you hacking away like this, Directeur. You've got the right spirit. :)
- Meryn Stol
Thanks Meryn, it's all fun for me, and I'm happy to see some people liking it! :)
- directeur
Cool!
- Kol Tregaskes
Hey, hey! Glad to see that at least 26 people like this! :)
- directeur
Dead Kennedys: In God We Trust, Inc. - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Clare Dibble, Pete Delucchi, Robert Felty and 12 other people liked this
"Home taping is killing record industry profits! We left this side blank so you can help"
- April Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
If they could turn back time! If they could find a way! They'd take back all the words that hurt us, they say!
- EricaJoy
Gotta love Jello Biafra. Crazy as hell, but you can't help but appreciate someone who pulls out all the stops for what he believes in. His later spoken word stuff is pretty fascinating, too.
- Joel Webber
Yes!!!!
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Psssst cancer. Suck a fat one. You're going down beyatch.
Jesse Stay, Rodfather, 2ndmoon© and 6 other people liked this
We seem to have a few cancer-fighters around here. Maybe there should be a group?
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Now when you expand a conversation, we add an "Add comment" link to the bottom so that you don't have to scroll back to the top.
ethan meccage, TobiasVerhoog.com, DrUnKeN_TiGeR and 280 other people liked this
heh just was gonna say something
- MG Siegler
Sweet!
- Mark Trapp
I'm first. :P http://ff.im/6tDGj
- Oğuz Serdar
Why add this even thought your going to close down the service?
- Matt Ruiz
Yes! Thank you!
- Diego Barros
hey, that's me in that grab.
- Christian Collins
You're quick Qguz!
- Paul Buchheit
nice its quite useful .. :)
- Bhowmik Shah
Exxxcellent, sir. We've been asking for this for awhile now. With this taken care of, how close are we to being able to collapse comments that we've expanded?
- Akiva Moskovitz
Thanks !!!
- Eric Logan
It's too late.
- Matt Ruiz
Let's call that a $50 million feature ;-)
- Laurent
+1 Akiva, was thinking the same thing - Also, thank you much! Been hoping for this. :-)
- Matthew Horton
Good to see development on FF hasn't stopped, Paul. I thought the FF API v2 post was the last FF update we'd ever see. This warms my heart :)
- LANjackal
it's not too late, personally alot my post-FB fears will be allayed if dev continues on FF.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Very cool! Keep bringing the cool features!
- Dakota O'Neill
Great!
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Akiva, so how's your faith feeling tonight? now?
- Myrna
I just clicked add comment, and now I have nothing to say. :D
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
Myrna, a band-aid might help but it certainly won't cure.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I had to refresh the page to see it initially.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Akiva :) So what would it like if it wasn't just a band-aid?
- Myrna
Myrna, I am unable to parse that sentence.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Sounds like a good addition. I was thinking about that today.
- Louis Gray
Thank you, Thank You, Thank you!
- Jeff P. Henderson
I'm wondering how Paul is feeling tonight a day after signing. Toward his friends here also?
- Myrna
Me like.
- 1x29
Lol at Laurent $50 million dollar feature
- Wayne Sutton
from iPhone
Keep proving me right, Paul. You guys are awesome!
- Jesse Stay
CYBERHUG! (platonically speaking!)
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
+ Jesse in every way.
- Myrna
very nice - please keep pushing on your features! Keep making FF great.
- Tobin Truog
awesome! definitely makes sense.
- Dusty Edenfield
Yep. I just noticed it. Then looked for the post ... and here it is.
- Kevin Mohr
Suggested this a while back. Glad to see it added.
- Manuel Mas
Much wanted feature.
- ashish
Cool!
- Anne Bouey
I just noticed that! Very nice!
- Herb Hernandez
from iPhone
Me like new link. Very convenient.
- Dennis Jernberg
Yay, you guys added my "add a comment" button feature (sorta). thank you :)
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
fftogo mobile version, or is there abetter one?
- jcunwired
nice!
- Marg Uerite
Another great new feature. Thanks, Paul!
- ha3rvey (just a friend)
Genius!
- R1CC1
digging the feature but I'll keep Micah's script around a bit longer since it also has a "like" link
- chrisofspades
Maybe it was the absurdly long discussions of the FB purchase, but I was wanting this feature yesterday. Woot!
- Tom Horn
nice
- Gaith
can you please add one at the bottom of the page, too? i keep having to hit About then the friendfeed logo, and finally back at the beginning/top :)
- mike
Let me guess, the 500+ message thread about FB buying FF brought this on. Like!
- Evan Parker
Matthew, Laurent, Akiva Roflol. This is like the bouquet you get when you're the girl and he messed up. Louis, you were right. ;)
- Melanie Reed
:) thanx
- Ali
hey cool feature thx PB
- Thomas Power
ty
- paniaguai
that's great! thanks
- Jay
Excellent!! Thanks, Paul.
- Kol Tregaskes
cheers
- outofmyarse
Perfect choice of screenshot
- Alex Kapranoff
Very nice improvement, me thinks you were listening. I remember seeing someone request this feature yesterday.
- Keith Rowland
makes sooooo much sense
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Probably a five-second feature to reassure everyone ;-)
- Tim Tyler
Thanks it is useful :)
- Burçak Çubukçu
Great
- Химия и Жизнь
In Soviet Russia, comment posts you!
- Mark
Yay!
- DGentry
While you are at it, add a "Keep classic FriendFeed alive forever" -link. kthx! ;)
- Jemm
Very clever, and very easy.
- Evan Travers
It does not appear until certain number of comments are made. This is really nice because if it appeared twice in proximity it would not look nice.
- ashish
Now, can you add a collapse comments feature? I hate having to scroll up or down for what seems like miles and miles of comments just to get to another post.
- April Buchheit
+2
- Jim Norris
We really wanted this when we were conference blogging--will be great for next time.
- Ruchira S. Datta
+1000 April - yes, i've wanted that for a while, too ... please :)
- Susan Beebe
Nice start. That means I can almost uninstall the Greasemonkey script that had been doing this for me for the past month or so. Now could we also get a link to collapse the comments again. Pretty please? Oh, and why no "Like" link at the bottom as well?
- Alex Schleber
ooh yes, a link at the bottom to re-collapse comments would be great. or maybe even every 30 comments or so there could be a re-collapse link. sometimes i expand and regret it in short order.
- Felicia Yue
Happy to see this :-) and happy for Myrna too
- Majento
hell yeah!!! Friendfeed rulz ever, please dont fusionit with FB xD
- Francisco Espinoza
from BuddyFeed
nice!
- αяf
i am (maybe not an addict)
- Anand Sharma
I'm with April
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
quetest haha
- ethan meccage
Scalien - Keyspace (distributed key value store) - http://scalien.com/keyspace/
arda, Chip Ramsey, Robert Scoble and 27 other people liked this
Looks interesting, have been investigating a lot of these systems lately just out of curiosity, but most have not met my expectations. This one is new, but I plan on checking it out.
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Anything in cluster form is great. Servers, Breakfast cereals etc.
- CannonGod
Did you ever have a look at Tangosol Coherence? They were around before even memcached got popular, with a clustering solution with very flexible partitioning strategies, and the ability to run queries on the cluster. The continuous query functionality is pretty cool for real time stuff: http://coherence.oracle.com/display... Of course, the fact that it's written in Java might turn some people off.
- Ray Cromwell
Bret, have you looked at redis, and or Tokyo Cabinet?
- Nick Halstead
Nick: I love Tokyo Cabinet. It is not a distributed key value store, though - it just runs on one machine. There is a huge difference, and unfortunately most of the open source projects in this area don't actually work (largely demo quality from my tests).
- Bret Taylor
Of course, Oracle bought Tangosol, but their original product was great. I don't know how much it costs now, but some of Tangosol's competitors were good too.
- Ray Cromwell
Note that it's under the AGPL (Affero Gnu Public License), so you can't use it for closed-source web services.
- Jim Norris
Oh: good point, Jim. Nevermind. I will not be checking it out.
- Bret Taylor
Bret, http://opensource.plurk.com/LightCl... gives distribution + persistance to Tokyo + REDIS, definitely check out redis if you have time, although its still early days they have key/value + the values can be sets + queues, and all operations are atomic. Redis is also very easy to hash across servers.
- Nick Halstead
Re: AGPL. I recently looked at mongodb because apparently I'm not alone in thinking this whole space is fascinating (though it is not distributed key-value store). Anyway, their description of AGPL seems to be that it is possible to write a closed source web service against it so long as you give your changes to the server back to the community. However, I think this is enabled by the fact that they release their client library as Apache. Does that sound consistent with other people's understanding of AGPL?
- Kelly Norton
Apache driver license looks safe to me except for the C++ driver. Not sure how that one avoids AGPL...
- Michael Herf
from iPhone
@Michael - You're right. Looks like the C++ driver is AGPL. I have to admit, I don't see how anything could really escape the viral nature of the AGPL. The site claims that there are drivers available from third parties under different licenses, but that would seem to violate AGPL. I think it's probably best to stay away from anything AGPL.
- Kelly Norton
Here's a blog that surveyed some distributed key/value stores: http://www.metabrew.com/article...
- Ray Cromwell
Clinton and Two Freed Journalists Leave N. Korea - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/glogin...
Thomas Knoll, Tom Stocky, Daniel Rowley and 15 other people liked this
So happy they are free
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
this one reason .. why I like American leaders .. !!
- Nayan
One more thing: All of our iframe embeds (including search) support a css=URL parameter to enable custom style. We haven't documented it yet, but see http://friendfeed.com/buildin... for an example and howto, and http://www.building43.com/ to see it live.
Jesper Lind, Angela E. Taylor, Ahmet Alp Balkan and 109 other people liked this
Amazing
- zsafwan
I was wondering how they did that! Thanks
- Frankie Warren
But how do I customize the title so it's not the long search string?
- Jesse Stay
We're going to fix that very soon Jesse.
- Paul Buchheit
Could that (improper instancing of by louisgray.com) be the cause of http://ff.im/4J6lp ?
- ianf ⌘
Thanks Paul - that will make me feel much better about keeping it there. :-) I've got some huge community improvements coming soon that I'm hoping to integrate FriendFeed with.
- Jesse Stay
I may be missing the howto, but developed my own way awhile back using object tag, and placed in a drupal block.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
from BuddyFeed
Freaking GENIUS.
- Jason Huebel
Paul, first tried to embed in the post, but did not work out. Then I embedded the search in a sidebar widget, that worked: http://www.amsterdam20.nl - any tips how to make the embedding working in a regular WP 2.8 post? Or is this not possible b/c it is an iframe? TIA!
- Jeroen De Miranda
Ah this was what i was looking for.
- Burcu Dogan
Nice - very cool.
- Cliff Gerrish
Is there any chance of losing the scroll bar? I know you can manually increase the height but would really like this frame to automatically grow on my site. Or is this technically impossible atm? Either way, a very cool feature. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Paul.. thanks for the "undocumented update".. it's nice to have such open access to what's happening at FriendFeed. I'm used to the "Wall of Silence" from Google and THAT gets old and extremely frustrating fast.
- Chris Myles
Cool. I just discovered the embed flag yesterday. I like loading the feeds in the firefox sidebar.
- Peter Warnock
Kol, I think you are a little out of luck.. since an Iframe is just a "window" to another URL, the main page needs to define the size. Without it the browser would need to load every iframe page just to determine how to render the main one. However It would be nice to have an embedded option that allows the "N more comments" concept (more details here http://ff.im/4fGzH), it takes up...
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- Chris Myles
Chris, so the iframe is not the way forward? What alternatives could achieve this? I don't mind putting in some code to embed my FF posts properly (with a frame).
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, I'm not sure where you got the impression I don't think Iframes are the way forward, I was addressing your issue of "losing the scrollbar". An Iframe is the only way to get "real time" updates.. you could always roll your own javascript, ff API , DOM based utility but it would only get you the content at the time of the API call. If the FF team thought http://ff.im/4fGzH was a good...
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- Chris Myles
So there is no other way to get real-time updates without an iframe? Once we can get rid of the scrollbar then I can use it on my site.
- Kol Tregaskes
FF can only update pages they own! BTW in its current form I think the benefits of an embedded FF post (or group etc) far outweigh any minor side effects of a scrollbar. I'd love to use friendfeed as my entire blog commenting system, I'm just waiting for a couple of things (http://ff.im/3TfED) to automate the process.
- Chris Myles
We would love to embed a private room on internal Deki Wiki. The last time I tried it still had the sidebar. I will try again to see if you have made it possible to do this.
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
The minute I decided to embed FF into my blog!
- Burcu Dogan
Does this also include individual post embeds (via share)?.. I can't seem to get those to work!
- Chris Myles
the building43 stuff is great. they did a good job explaining and such. used it for my lifestream on my blog.
- (jeff)isageek
Paul baucheit and the rest of the friendfeed team. You are implementing a lot of cool features lately.
- alfred westerveld
Using this technique on http://waded.org now, instead of Evan Sims' FriendFeed WordPress widget. I like some things about the css=URL approach better, and some things not so much. (Anyone, is there a technique to control # of entries displayed?)
- Wade Dorrell
Wade, use the num= parameter to control the number of entries (e.g. http://friendfeed.com/paul...)
- Paul Buchheit
The Great Google Doodle Triforce Conspiracy - http://blogoscoped.com/archive...
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Kol Tregaskes, Shevonne, Steven Bryden and 51 other people liked this
That's amazing. I love it!
- Kevin Fox
from Bookmarklet
How does Link feel about this? What about Ganon?
- Bryan Zirkel
Google Shmoogle
- Kevin J Hatton
Surely this is the work of the Triliberal Commission. The Illuminati are everywhere.
- Andy Dustman
I have all google doodles (US) collected here, in case if somebody wants to check.. http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Jigar Mehta
Awesome!
- Tanath
So the conspiracy grows -- Google has removed the tri-forces: http://blogoscoped.com/archive...
- Stephen Mack
FriendFeed Blog: Someone's in the kitchen with FriendFeed themes - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
trangphuong, Brian, Mickey Schafer and 164 other people liked this
yeeeeaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!! More Themes!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Bahaha. Steampunk.
- Joshua
Grasslands is awesome. And it has clouds!
- Bret Taylor
nice! It's theme week on FF.
- Mike Bracco
AWESOME! Thanks Bret
- Matt Ruiz
++ Bret
- Rachel Lea Fox
Ha, the Grasslands theme is cute. I think I kind of like! :) Oh, lookit the cloud! I'll try this out for a while...
- Pistos
Orion it is.
- Adi
Feeling all zen with Grasslands
- Mike Bracco
Oh no. Sorry, as much as I like Grasslands, I can't apportion 25% of my CPU cycles to moving clouds. *goes back to classic*
- Pistos
Excellent !
- Wang Yip
Orion FTW!
- CAJ, somewhere else
haha i thought curtis said Onion FTW!
- Wang Yip
Wang: He did.
- Matt Ruiz
even the clouds move on grasslands
- Randy Pollock
I know I know!!!
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Matt: heh no it says Orion, see thats what i'm talking about heheh
- Wang Yip
*silently digs Steampunk theme*
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I like the Orion theme!
- TheHenry
Well, I've now been converted to Steampunk. AJ's script was blocking the new text background.
- CAJ, somewhere else
Orion and Steampunk...nice! Can I haz a CyberPunk?
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
I like Grasslands. Very cheerful. Good to brighten the mood when you stroll over to FriendFeed
- Nathan Chase
Cool new themes! Curtis, you're using an old version.
- AJ Batac
AJ, I'm using the one with Themes support I just downloaded today.
- CAJ, somewhere else
Using Steampunk for now.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Grasslands is pretty cool looking, but when I comment on a post, the comment field is hidden in the grass. :D
- Josh Haley
Nice job! These are some pretty spiffy themes. I would have commented earlier, but I was busy shooting ducks. I switched from Helvetica to Steampunk for now. I still want my old school monochrome monitor black screen and green text theme :P
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
"old school monochrome monitor black screen and green text theme"? oh hellzyeah! can we also get an amber monochrome version?? they can be called "Hercules Green" and "Hercules Amber"! :D
- Joe Silence is not Santa
oooooo...I like that...Hercules Green and Hercules Amber
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Grasslands has sun and clouds in Opera, but not in Firefox.
- Peter
Peter I see the sun and the clouds even in Firefox
- Niki Costantini
Thank you, "Grasslands" theme is Great
- Nimaa
It seems that one firefox is not like another firefox. It doesn't really bother me, I still prefer 'fresh', or perhaps 'orion'.
- Peter
Love the new themes. But when can we upload our own image?
- Katy Barrilleaux
Extraordinary and eye candy.
- ashish
I like the Orion & Steampunk themes, but I keep going back to classic, largely due to its simplicity & lack of minor annoyances.
- Tanath
Steampunk & Grasslands are sweet. but in Grassland bottom grass effect must be under of writings
- Samir Kerimov
Ooo, nice. I'll try knot or grasslands for a while. Orion should be named "billions and billions." :-)
- Rick Cogley
Awesome!
- Garin Kilpatrick
they're perty
- sofarsoShawn
Loving Steampunk!
- Geoff Schultz
I do a combo of the two, ishowu!
- sofarsoShawn
Very cool!
- orionstarr
from iPhone
Cool, I like Orion and Duck Hunt is fun in a simple way... But I'm going to stick with Helvetica for now. Wouldn't mind a Blue variation of it.
- Grant Bierman
Just loaded the Orion theme. Nice!
- Rachel Luxemburg
Took a screencam of grasslands with Kol's puppy. http://ff.im/5kCWk
- Rick Cogley
Nice! But custom BG that can be uploaded by users would be awesome. Duck theme should be a widget that can be applied over any theme.
- Krishnamoorthy
Krishnamoorthy.K - http://duckmylife.com gives you a bookmarklet that lets you add duckhunt to any website.
- Rachel Lea Fox
Shiny. Trying Steampunk now :-D
- immaterial
Cordys Cloud application had the cloud+grass combination since about a year, and now this theme of FriendFeed makes my page look like my applications ;) mighty nice ;)
- Ashish Tiwari
Orion <3 :D
- Nia
Steampunk is very flavorful. It needs some rotating gears (the true reason for 3D CSS transforms)
- DGentry
Very nice. Wish I could toggle on/off the animation.
- Joel Lovato
+1 for being able to turn off animation. Better yet: Animation only when viewing the tab, turn it off when the tab goes out of focus.
- Pistos
I picked the "orion" theme thought it was fitting for me!
- orionstarr
Yeah! Orion!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
I'd like,, I really would like to have a full black and green theme, like old vintage computer from the '80's, but with the power of new technology. SO, please, make me happy...
- Francesco OC
annnnd back to helvetica.....steampunk is too slow on my netbook. really really want vintage computer "hercules green" or amber theme guys! :)
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
yes mike! hercules green or amber theme! perfect...
- Francesco OC
Oh! I like Steampunk and I'm using it. Good job!
- trangphuong
FriendFeed now 6x more awesomer with themes - FriendFeed Blog - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
roamin, HealingBrush, Francesco OC and 339 other people liked this
I'm a Blue Wave man myself.
- Bret Taylor
Nice, but I think I like the Classic style the best. :) When can designers submit more themes, or users upload their own?
- Pistos
That wouldn't have anything to do with Google Wave, now would it?
- Daniel Sims
Who would believe that *I* would be using the "Flowers" theme? :)
- Ana
Helvetica
- Christopher Chung
Pistos: user submitted themes are coming soon.
- Bret Taylor
Pistos: It's in the blog post. ;-)
- Kevin Fox
I prefer to keep things Fresh
- Dan Hsiao
oooooh boy!!
- Micah Wittman
Nice! how much control over theming when user submitted comes out? Twitter-like? more? Sharable?
- Justin Hart
Helvetica for now.
- Jimminy Fuller
Whoops, didn't even see that there's a blog post. Sorry. :)
- Pistos
Justin: most of that (user submitted, shareable, etc) is coming, this is just a first step.
- Bret Taylor
Awesome.
- Justin Hart
thank you jesus
- Sarah Perez
This is awesommeee!!
- Burcu Dogan
Thanks :)
- Tracy Benham
Nice
- Kreg Steppe
*awesome* I <3 Helvetica!
- Sparky
Helvetica for sure!
- Burcu Dogan
This was all due to Kevin's (http://friendfeed.com/kfury) hard work in case it wasn't obvious. Great job, Kevin!
- Bret Taylor
Looks like I signed on just in time today.
- Yolanda
Thanks guys. Rockin Helvetica for now. Needs the FF logo though.
- Andrew Smith
Helvetica for now.
- Darryl
This post came when I was thinking how FF logo is a Twitter look-like. Dont change the Helvetica version!
- Burcu Dogan
Thanks.. but I'm not a big "theme" guy... I'd rather see updates to the API... I guess I should be hammering Ben for that :)
- Tim Hoeck
ohhhhh snap!
- Nathan Chase
Niiiiceeeee.
- Simon Wicks
I chose Fresh!
- David Schmidt
It became clear as soon as the FriendFeed Themes room was taken over.
- Andrew Trinh
Awesome!
- Frankie Warren
thank you!
- Alfredo
Do any of the feeds have the highlight options of AJ's theme? Or the Service Favicons from Micah?
- Matthew DeVries
Very nice. Like the Helvetica myself for the moment, but that will probably change in a week or two.
- Alex Hellstrom
Helvetica! awesome. BTW, pause button is clipped by a couple of pixels on WebKit browsers.
- Kelly Norton
Nice one, though we need more themes...
- Kaan Ertürk
+1 to Helvetica!
- Joel Webber
Helvetica is loveable but I wish it was white, black and red instead of being just 1-bit.
- Berk D. Demir
sorry guys. my helvetica edition more beauty :) http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Burak Dönertaş
haha :) thanx for that.
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
helvetica ;)
- Faruk Kaymak
@Burak, yup, more beauty ♥
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Yeah, great job bro. i like the Helvetica edition
- Simto Alev
"Bamboo" suggests there's a picture, but all I see is brownish colours, at that don't match the friendfeed logo.
- Peter
I like "fresh"
- Peter
I like Blue Wave. Fresh should be the default theme and the Classic should be dumped. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
MIcah says his scripts still work with the themes btw: http://ff.im/4DlX9
- Kol Tregaskes
OMG LOVE!!!
- BEX
Perhaps post your favourite theme and whether you like or dislike the themes in the new *official* FF-Themes group here: http://ff.im/4DluG :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Peter, there should be an image inthe lower right corner. What browser/OS are you using? Thanks!
- Kevin Fox
this is great!
- Joe Pestro
Be Gone Grey!
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Blue Wave for me :) - Great work FF!
- Roy Herrod
You guys flippin ROCK
- BEX
Why are they all so girly?
- Gabe
@Kevin Fox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070725 Firefox/2.0.0.6
- Peter
I'm with Gabe: after considering BlueWave, I went with Helvetica, everything else is just girly. I might just stick with my 'stylish' hacks.
- Joel Bennett
Yea, flowers and stuff are annoying. Helvetica version should be improved for better spacing.
- Burcu Dogan
Thanks, Kol, that's what I was going to ask - if themes conflict with scripts. Sounds like it's cool - heading off to choose one now. I have one stylish userrstyle script and two greasemonkey scripts applied to friendfeed. We'll see if they can all play nice.
- Laura Norvig
Laura, how'd it go?
- Rochelle
works great - I'm trying helvetica now. It's super clean because I have avatars removed. Me likey.
- Laura Norvig
cool... when is that nasty orange "ParisLemon" theme comin? :P
- Susan Beebe
This'll make it prettier when I'm using Chrome anyway. :) I think I'll stick with the Stylish scripts and hacks on Firefox, though - I like the typography modifications they provide. When user-generated themes come in, will they be able to modify the typography/spacing, or just the background and colors? Thanks for the options, guys!
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Thanks Bret. Hel-vet a lot better.
- E-Advocate Network
Thanks Bret, I love the Helvetica theme, btw, your new avatar is awesome:)))
- K.D.
Helvetica. WIN
- Jamie
Tres cool.
- Jason Toney
It's good that ugliness is no more reason #1 to stop connecting. Next I would like to have is d&d to sort out friends in categories
- Michele Costabile
Helvetica... Minimalism. Thank you! :D
- Brandon
Thanks, FF team!
- Anne Bouey
Good stuff! Thanks!
- Rick Cogley
Great!
- Shun Fukuzawa
from twhirl
Helvetica! Clean:)
- Dave
Try this Helvetica - http://userstyles.org/styles...
- ThenWang
Bret, BIG MAHALO for the themes! I'm going Hawaiian! Check me out! http://friendfeed.com/AlohaAr...
- Arleen Anderson
Helvetica definitely :)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Flowers & Butterfly Corner are good,but a little bit girl stuff.Any good theme for a guy?
- Steve Chou
YAY!
- Alli Worthington
Coolness!
- Ron Bailey
I like the Helvetica, who created it?
- Juvenn Woo
Sorry, but were there no "real" designers to push out some mindblowing themes? It´s just a change of color and background?
- Hans Kainz
Like those themes. Would be nice though, if they also show up if someone visits my page. Or does it?
- Sven
When I click your name, Sven, I get the bamboo theme, which is what I chose. If you have chosen a different theme from that, we know it just remembers yours. It seems to work differently from twitter.
- Rick Cogley
It's Helvetica for me!
- Rui Pires
I think i'm going bamboo...
- diego morelli
Helvetica all the way! I feel like the nytimes.com
- Liviu Barbat
@Rick: Thanks. I get the idea. The twitter concept would be nice though. Like personalized version of the FF page. Now, if there were archive links now.....
- Sven
Finally! I'll go with freeeeesh!:)
- Patrik Johansson
As a part of our redesign launch, you can post to FriendFeed by emailing share@friendfeed.com, and you can get your feed delivered via email (you can even comment by replying to the messages). See more here: http://friendfeed.com/share...
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You can post to a room by emailing <groupname>@friendfeed.com and direct message by emailing <username>@friendfeed.com
- Bret Taylor
like
- AmirAli+i
That's cool.
- Andrew Smith
did i just notice the new bookmarklet too?
- patrick
brilliant!
- Edward Zwart
Awesome!
- Anthony K. Valley ©
I assume we need to send the email from the primary email set up on our FF account?
- Kevin Whalen
Hehehe... Nice :D
- Johnny Worthington
You can add email addresses to your account from your settings: http://friendfeed.com/...
- Bret Taylor
You can post from any email address associated with your account. Email notifications will go to your primary address.
- Tudor Bosman
Currently, we support automatic posting (without going through an "approve" page) for Gmail, Yahoo, and MSN/Hotmail/Live.com. We will add more email providers in the future, and we will also have a technical document on what an ISP needs to do in order to get added.
- Tudor Bosman
I thought a saw a "hello world" yesterday that got deleted rather quickly :)
- Frankie Warren
Isn't this a huge spam vector? All I have to know is someone's email address to mail from and I can send stuff to FF?
- Brian Sullivan
Brian: we use a number of methods including SPF to verify that emails came from the actual owner of the email address. If we can't verify, we make the entry go through an approval step before it is posted.
- Bret Taylor
from email
What Bret said; that's why we only support a few email providers right now.
- Tudor Bosman
from email
You should add more Twitter sharing options, so that I can have emailed-posts automatically tweeted. (like by emailing twitter@friendfeed.com). Then FF can become a replacement for services like twitpic
- Daniel Sims
So I could get spammed just by needing to approve posts that didn't come from me?
- Brian Sullivan
I don't see any way to turn it off for my account - does such a feature exist?
- Brian Sullivan
I just tried to send an email to a private group from a different email account and the request to approve it was sent back to the email address from which I sent the direct message. Is this the intended behavior?
- Shakeel Mahate
Shakeel: Yes. In order to approve the post, you have to log in to FriendFeed if you aren't logged in already.
- Tudor Bosman
Brian: as Shakeel noted, the approval request will be sent to the email address that was used to post. If someone is trying to spam, they will receive the approval request, not you. In order to approve, though, they would have to log in to FriendFeed, so they can only impersonate you if they know your FriendFeed password.
- Tudor Bosman
Wow this is awesome.
- Mona Nomura
It is sent to the address that the user claimed does it not ? If they claimed to be me I would get the request? Spam may be an over statement -- but it certainly could be annoying.
- Brian Sullivan
Curious if setting the reply to different than the from will have effect on this? registered with yahoo, but yahoo sends out all mail with gmail as reply to...
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Brian, that is correct. We will address this issue if it becomes a real problem; we do have some spam-prevention measures in place.
- Tudor Bosman
Rob: you need to associate with your account the address that you send from (that is, the address in the From: header).
- Tudor Bosman
Tudor, I think your solution is brilliant, thank you.
- Shakeel Mahate
And an IM bot - that would make my work interface a breeze
- Nicholas Paul Gordon
from Nambu
Nicholas: The IM bot is there. Just set it up and use it :-) I'm getting some notices now....going to test sends in a sec
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Tudor: thanks for the clarification
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Nicholas: we have been supporting IM notifications and replies by IM for a while now. Is this not working for you? See http://friendfeed.com/setting...
- Tudor Bosman
Tudor: I'm not seeing IM notifications on "comments on posts I commented on" (and maybe same for posts I liked
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: we just added that feature last night, so yeah, it's possible that there are some bugs. Looking into it.
- Tudor Bosman
Thanks Tudor. I'll be keeping an eye out for it...I've only got those set (but I did get blasted before I turned off the "Home Feed" notifications
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
pretty cool
- Shevonne
If you're not using Gmail, Yahoo, or whatever, do you have to approve each time you post something?
- Tom Landini
What happened to the stats page that was with the old interface?
- Russ Jackson
this is a gr8 feature..
- Amit
Tom: yes, for now, but stay tuned for improvements.
- Tudor Bosman
Thanks Tudor.
- Tom Landini
Not seeing IM posts to @me going thru. :( This makes me a sad panda.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Added another mail to stream via cellphone, but confirmation reply never came in, a bug maybe?
- Nir Ben Yona
great stuff! i mean ..stuFF .... thanks! ..you are the befft ! .. and will be even beffer .. Im quite sure about that .. LoFFe all the new ffeatures. ! ......... do you think to enable also x@ff.im? it might be handy, save typing
- Petr Buben
AND you guys successfully omitted email signatures from DMs and posts!
- Mona Nomura
is that new Mona? The last DM I sent via email included my signature. (was a few days ago)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
is there email notifications for groups?? i know you can post to groups via email, but i dont see the way to turn on emails out of groups.
- Frankie Warren
So that means no more using the remote key in the email address? That's SWEET.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Frankie—Not yet. For now you can add the groups you'd like to receive notifications for to a friend list and enable email notifications for that list.
- Dan Hsiao
Dan: Thanks for the work around... I hope a more intuitive method eventually shows up :)
- Frankie Warren
Sweet!
- TheHenry
Hey everyone reading this on Twitter - come join the party on Friendfeed :)
- Phill Price
I leave for a few hours and FF Co. goes and WINs all over the place. Can't leave you alone for a second :)
- grant fox
Mona, Rob: we tweaked the email signature detection code a bit, and should get rid of the default signatures from iPhone, Blackberry, and WinMo phones, as well as small variations (HI MONA). If you want to ensure that your signature gets dropped, configure the signature to include "-- " (two dashes and a space) on a line by itself before the actual signature text.
- Tudor Bosman
Bret, it looks good, liking the new email and IM features. I've still got a huge suggestions and bug list. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Grant, I went off to watch a rare bit of TV then come back to all this! LOL. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
The notifications rock ! Great work !
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
wow, this is very impressive
- Peter Efland
I could not post via email, because I guess I never confirmed my email address. I updated my email with the same one and clicked on the link that was subsequently sent to me. Now posts via email work.
- Chip Ramsey
Is old interface via mail2ff going anywhere? I'd like to continue authorizing my posts with remotekey.
- Alex Kapranoff
Alex: mail2ff will continue to work
- Bret Taylor
Ryo -- is your gmail address in your ff list of email addresses?
- Brian Sullivan
Ryo: That may be the same thing that was happening to me. Did you try to add the same email address again? It should fire a confirmation email that provides a link. After I clicked the link, I was then able to send posts via my email.
- Chip Ramsey
Ryo: BTW, I'm also on gmail and everything works fine now, so gmail itself probably is not the problem.
- Chip Ramsey
Nice... I will update my contact list asap! Feature heaven...mmmm
- Susan Beebe
Any word on getting other mail addresses to only need authorization once? Have to approve my emails from my cell phone every time is a royal pita!! Pretty please make att.net a single-authorization mail????? Especially since it's an authorized address!!
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
So should we replace the old <username>+plaza360demos@mail2ff.com with share@friendfeed.com ?
- scott willeke
Why a Mac is really the only option. Can your PC do this? http://thenextweb.com/2009...
Leandro Ardissone ⍨, Citizento, Christopher A. Wichura and 67 other people liked this
watch it - bloody clever
- Zee.
rofl.. i guess my pc can't do THAT
- Wang Yip
That's pretty sweet.
- Christopher Harley
hahaha, awesome.. My friends are tired of me telling why a mac is better.. I need to send it to them..
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
from IM
wow, just WOW!
- Keith - @tsudo
It's an ad for the new "eletronic advice of receipt" service by La Poste (French national postal service). Send them your email, they'll print it, send it, charge you and email you back the UPU.
- Jérôme Flipo
That was great. Amazing. Take that Michael Bay.
- David Imielski
Euro RSCG made it. And this one (for La Poste too): http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Jérôme Flipo
No My PC can't do that - you happy?
- Brent - Loving Life
HA! Reminds me of the animated gif snail =)
- Micah Wittman
No, but I don't want my PC to do that!
- Morton Fox
Wow, reminds me of what happens to the money that you spend on a Mac.
- Andy Bakun
No, but I wish my car could... though I don't think I want the 'gas' bill.
- Grant Bierman
AWESOME :) RT'ed
- Susan Beebe
Mine does that ;o)
- Seth Greenblatt
Sigh. They started that with the original iBook. My lime green one is still up in the tree outside.
- Mistletoe Glen
lol
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
from IM
Is the little guy we see the future of the eye-sight camera? :)
- Joshua
fun
- tomartomartini
Coolest thing I have seen in at least 2 years. An Ad Agency @booneoakley has built their entire website on Youtube vids. Annotations are navigation to other pages (ah I mean videos). This is so brilliant.
Nicholas James, Angus Burton, Peter van Teeseling and 9 other people liked this
Dean I totally agree this is the best ad-web design plan I have ever seen. http://www.youtube.com/watch... It is true social media - awesome!
- Robert Freeze
Don't you wish you had thought of it? @RobFreeze I remember a web site that was jpegs of handwritten notes on a memo pad linked together that was pretty cool but this is something else.
- Deano @ Byron New Media
@ByronNewMedia I do wish I had thought of it.
- Robert Freeze
I'm going to share it with more people...
- Robert Freeze
Thanks Dean, I was watching this on my phone the other day then forget the link when I got distracted.
- Mark Essel
Comedy Central Orders 26 New Episodes of Futurama - http://www.slashfilm.com/2009...
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"The episodes are scheduled to begin airing in mid-2010"
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
about time!
- BEX
omg yes. SO HAPPY!
- mike
W000t! I was developing Bender withdrawal syndrome...
- petar vucetin
Finally.
- Mustafa K. Isik
Google Translator Toolkit launched - http://blogoscoped.com/archive...
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Daniel Rowley, Gleb Kalinin, nonsleepr and 53 other people liked this
"Google Translator Toolkit is a new tool being launched today to help translators organize their work and benefit from shared translations, glossaries and translation memories"
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
I implemented translation memory, etc, for FriendFeed's translation system. Wonder if we can use this easily for our next round of translations. No time to look into it this week, but if anyone outside of Google uses it, let me know how easy it is to integrate with external projects.
- Bret Taylor
Impressive
- τorƍue
awesome!
- Susan Beebe
Sweet!
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Bret, I'm not entirely convinced by the translation interface. And depending on the format of your source files, it might not be suitable at all. Unless I'm missing something here, something really important to note is that there's currently no way to download or export your TM from Google Translator Toolkit. If that is indeed the case, I can't imagine they'll get away with that for very long though.
- Tony Ruscoe
from fftogo
I still find it easier to translate using trados on word. Old habits die hard..But given enough time, we might say bye bye to trados and its €xxxx license fees..(Lacks .xls and xml support right now)
- Kenan Atalay
A Beginner's Guide To jQuery - http://spyrestudios.com/simple-...
Mark Gunnels, Chip Ramsey, Morton Fox and 11 other people liked this
jQuery is worth your time, folks (if you know what it is, but don't know it). That's all I'm saying.
- Micah Wittman
is jquery better than prototype? I have used prototype a lot without any complaints, but have no experience with jquery.
- Chip Ramsey
The "Re-share" function has been replaced with a more powerful "Share" dialog.
Alexander Trafford, Torsten Eckert, David Chartier and 242 other people liked this
Also, based on feedback, all the per-entry links are visible by default (nothing appears on hover).
- Bret Taylor
1UP Bret. Wasn't feeling the hover.
- Derrick
By "per-entry links" do you mean shortened URLs?
- Mitch
Mitch: I mean the "Hide - Reshare" links that are attached to each entry.
- Bret Taylor
I just noticed that!
- Anne Bouey
Nice!
- Ken Sheppardson
Yay! I just noticed this before I see this entry. Makes me happy.
- Admiral Anika
Uh, that's not going to be the standard bookmarklet from now? Please say no.
- Admiral Anika
Very cool... and thanks for including the "Share" URLs, particularly the short URL. Is the little "x" in the upper right to dismiss the window missing intentionally?
- Ken Sheppardson
I like the UI change. One minor suggestion: add a close box [X] to the dialog; I found out that you could close it by clicking outside, but I think it would be easier with an explicit action (or even "close this window")
- Mistletoe Glen
Nice! I just would like ESC as a shortcut to leave it please (this is my reflex when trying to escape this kind of pop up)
- Stanislas Jourdan
Stanislas, that pop up sucks balls on my netbook screen since I can only see up to 'Post' but clicking off of it helped. Odd there's no 'cancel' button.
- Admiral Anika
wow nice.
- Alfredo
now how about that bookmarklet
- Alfredo
Duuuuuuuuuuuuude... I can embed the chat on my site... WIN
- Johnny Worthington
where is the "cancel" hiding in the share popup ?
- Kishore Balakrishnan
Bret, looks like there's a bug or something: http://beta.friendfeed.com/directe...
- directeur
can the admins add the friendfeed-beta to the "to" list ?
- Kishore Balakrishnan
Thanks - great response to the feedback!! I'm very happy to see hide back.
- Robin Barooah
A close button has been added - sorry for the oversight.
- Bret Taylor
Why are those images showing up on every FF post?
- Andrew Leahey
Andrew, this happened to me (added image) and I deleted the post and recreated it.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Happened to me as well. Very strange.
- Andrew Leahey
you could've clicked on the gray area to close it too.
- Alfredo
I think the fact that it hasn't be noticed instantly shows how few people actually post text directly through FF.
- Andrew Leahey
Andrew: this is a spurious error, and we are pushing a fix now.
- Bret Taylor
Bret: What do you mean by spurious error? Was it a user error on my part? Not trying to bust you, just not sure what you mean.
- Andrew Leahey
Meaning it was not happening with all posts - it was an issue with one of our backends and caching. Let me know if you see the problem again.
- Bret Taylor
Gotcha, will do. Thanks for the quick fix.
- Andrew Leahey
I really like the embed feature, I can put a post in a blog post and the comments appear in real time, in the blog post as updates! That's something I haven't seen anywhere. http://breakingnewsviafriendfe...
- Wallace
This is awesome, thanks!
- Robert Scoble
yay!
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Can FF get any better? ....just wait 1/2 a day ;-)
- Mark Traphagen
cool; is the comment box gone?
- Anthony Citrano
Wow! This is quite amazing.
- Brandon Titus
This is cool, but I think the Quick Links to the services are superflous.... and the dialog barely fits my firefox viewport (on a laptop).
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
:) A lot can happen in a day: http://beta.friendfeed.com/micahwi...
- Micah Wittman
It's not working for me :(
- Richard Lawler
Works for me! This is sweet!
- Helen Sventitsky
In fact, I think the 'Share elsewhere' section could be collapsed by default.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Impressive ... what is next?? :)
- Amani
cool new function! Just added a blog post with this dialogue - http://www.jeroendemiranda.com/friendf...
- Jeroen De Miranda
That is really great and useful. I liked Short URLs.
- Alp
I'm getting some bad results with short urls not pointing to the long URL it's supposed to, ending up in non-beta friendfeed and some other weirdness.
- Boris Gordon
Cool! Thanks =)
- Anton
Embed - no way!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
I suppose short URL <http://ff.im/2lx3d> will eventually point to the beta site, but how about it should do that RIGHT NOW? ;-))
- ianf ⌘
Bret, this is far better, thank you. I love that we can see the short URL (this could really to with being on the share box and the bookmarklet as well as the embed code. The quick links are very useful too. But it's still just a link to the post not actually opening the post up to new feeds (i.e. with sync'ed comments and likes). Would this be possible please?
- Kol Tregaskes
What I'd like to see is the possibility to share the comments when you reshare it to another feed.
- Brome
In fact you could combine this new share dialog box with edit post options and we could edit/add/remove the images, the link(s), the title and the feeds the post (the ability to remove from existing feeds and add to new feeds).
- Kol Tregaskes
Brome, yep basically open the post to new feeds (or edit existing ones).
- Kol Tregaskes
Really impressed and agree with Kol that this should be the standard dialog across all Shares
- Joe Dawson
is embed realtime? If so it could replace the comment section on blogs easily.
- Rahul Das
Rahul, I'm typing this comment in here: http://breakingnewsviafriendfe... to prove that yes the embed code is real-time. Now that is *excellent*!!! Shame it's in a window though.
- Kol Tregaskes
this is awesome. Now someone needs to come up with some ready to paste code for blogs and we would have an awesome commenting platform.
- Rahul Das
like the share function
- eric
Much better distinction from "Reshare"(RT) which conceptually was more of a like.
- Michiel Sikkes
Give us the ESC shortcut to close the popup window
- Waldemar Schott
Good idea, +1 Waldemar
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Waldemar, agree we really need the ESC as exit.
- Kol Tregaskes
Is it possible to unframe the embed code so it's a little tidier than this: http://www.e-lusion.co.uk/blog...? For instances I have to set a height when I don't really want a limit. Either way, this is superb! And thanks to Wallace (http://beta.friendfeed.com/wallace... pointing this out to me! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Good point Kol. There is a problem when there are so many comments, tho.
- Roberto Bonini
Roberto, yep but not sure this is possible. It would be nice though. :-) The new way to blog? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Maybe. But I was thinking of doing that watchlist of mine using the embeds. What do you think?
- Roberto Bonini
And did you know this embed updates instantly????
- Roberto Bonini
Loving the new Share, thanks Bret. Would be cool if the Bookmarklet will have these options too.
- Majento
very nice ... It would be even better if the frame was not visible.
- Kevin Nordmand
Roberto, yep it's real-time. Yeah that watchlist would work, just create a private post on your site and add the embed code. A little fiddly though.
- Kol Tregaskes
Bret, thanks. What about sharing via Gmail or email in general?
- Damond Nollan
Now I want the 'edit' form upgraded with the same 'To:' field, so I can add crossposts after-the-fact.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Everyone noticed the retweet icons down the bottom, didn't they?
- Johnny Worthington
I have a bit of a problem, at my resolution of 1366x768, if there's a photo in the re-share I can't see the "quick links" section at the bottom, and there's no way of scrolling this screen.
- Louis Simoneau
Great stuff but now I need this same functionality in the bookmarklet!
- AJ Kohn
sweet!
- .LAG liked that
Johnny, yep. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
ESC shortcut (+1 Waldemar) would be great!
- Jeroen De Miranda
Wud be great & really easy if Mail Invitations link had option for importing & selecting email contacts...rather than typing/copy-paste. Any plans for this?
- Roshan Ramachandran
perfect :)
- Zafarali
I'm having the same problem Louis. Would be great if we could scroll the share window.
- Sharon McPherson
cool
- Adrian
Cool - even cooler if the bookmarklet could do the same!
- Kevin Nordmand
I like it! Would be nice to update the bookmarklet too. And please keep the original comments added to a post.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Edit the bookmarklet to add "beta" to the address :)
- Roberto Bonini
how should we choose the groups to share the item in?
- Mahsa Z
Masha, click the Share link, when the box pops up, click the X to remove "My Feed" if that is not where you want to put the item. Enter the first letter of the group you want to send the item to and you'll see all the groups that you belong to that begin with that letter. Find the group you want and click on it.
- Sharon McPherson
would be nice if you could just dropdown a list of groups, rather than having to type the first letter
- Tommy Keene
You mean "FF should read our minds, one letter is one letter too many?"
- ianf ⌘
The new share function is pretty awesome.
- Andrew Trinh
Sharon, tnx. so we should memorize all groups' names! :-/
- Mahsa Z
Thanks. This is a great feature and makes sharing even easier :)
- Nicholas James
I really like the new Share feature. I wish the "Like" feature had more control on how Likes get sent to Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
I love this! Just discovered it today.
- Brian Bufalo
this is frustrating. More specifically...the retweeting is frustrating. We need to be able to retweet without a (via http://ff.im/2lx3d) at the end and the urls need to be shortened if we're resharing a link from friendfeed. This is driving me bonkers.
- Zee.
Roberto, thanks for the tip!
- Michael R. Bernstein
and a RT is nothing without mentioning the name of the person we shared from
- Zee.
Zee: thanks for the feedback. To clarify, is the fact we prepopulate the textbox with (via ...) what is bothering you? You can delete that text. Or am I misunderstanding? Good point about making the username of the person who shared it more prominent.
- Bret Taylor
I was just clicking on the Share feature, thought it was new.. And it is! +1 to email, that's what I was looking for, sharing the FF entry via email for non-FF users! Promote awareness! :)
- Chris Chua
how do I get this new/improved version?
- Benin Brown
from fftogo
Benin: it is available at http://beta.friendfeed.com/
- Bret Taylor
great! .. more power to you .. :]
- Petr Buben
I don't get any email options @beta.ff – Safari 3.2.1 on OSX 10.5.6. While I'm at it however, please consider making this Share dialog a little more compact. I read FF at 24p font size (tired eyes), and this dialog doesn't fit on my 13.3" (800px vertical) laptop's screen.
- ianf ⌘
This just makes friendfeed even more powerful. Love it.
- Angus Neil
We updated the FriendFeed Beta navigation and sidebar based on people's feedback: http://beta.friendfeed.com/
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We have separated Groups (the new name for "Rooms") into its own section, and we have renamed "filters" to "Saved searches" to make things simpler/clearer. Saved searches have simper URLs that can be shared, and friend list operations have all been added/cleaned up.
- Bret Taylor
Nice - looks much cleaner.
- Robin Barooah
Nice, better navigation
- Nimaa
Our primary goal was making Groups more useful again. The friend search / group search functionality is now separate and much easier to use.
- Bret Taylor
excellent, much clearer
- Don Bonaddio
So the "Top Friends" option that used to be showing is now gone. Works fine.
- Louis Gray
That works awesome with the "group" I just put together consisting of all my rss feeds from google reader.
- James Ostheimer
I like this change. Also, I apparently like boats.
- Ana
I dunno, it's possible to be an enthusiast but not like something.
- Casey Muller
Thank you!
- BEX
Thank you I love the new navigation.
- Russ Jackson
We have also added Atom feeds, Block, and a number of other small missing components.
- Bret Taylor
Organization is a good thing. Thanks and keep it coming. The subtle stuff will come. Color customization, etc. I think the main think is make it look dead easy, with the advanced user stuff just a little symbol or click away...
- kilbuda
Much better!
- Andrew
Thanks !!!
- Eric Logan
SHWEET!
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
i like being able to statically set the groups it shows me on the side now.
- rob friedman
Very cool. Much simpler. Any chance of being able to rearrange the blocks a la iGoogle in the future? Saved Searches were mighty convenient up at the top.
- Mark Trapp
Yes, rearranging and theming are both things we would like to do.
- Bret Taylor
I wondered what happened !
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Theming? Whoa.
- Mark Trapp
Like Mark Trapp's idea.
- kilbuda
+++ Thanks!
- .LAG liked that
@Rob, you still can set the groups that show up by clicking on "prefs" in the orange bar.
- Ana
Where did the create feed/imaginary friend substitute function go?
- Brian Sullivan
@Ana, I just said I liked it. :) I didn't see the ability to change what was shown there prior to this change. It just seemed like a random sampling of the groups I'm on before.
- rob friedman
Excellent. Very glad to see the "Browse/edit friends" link. I look forward to being able to rearrange to put my saved searches at the top.
- Elizabeth
Nice, but I use filters (well, now saved searches) more than I do my friend lists. Personally I prefer it the way it was, although I'd be happy just to have filters bumped up some (I got a _lot_ of lists to scroll past).
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
@Brian, I dont think the imaginary friend stuff is in the beta interface yet, I had to use the old UI to add a few yesterday.
- rob friedman
I like the new separation much more than old layout. Being able to rearrange placement of these blocks would be nice but not essential.
- Boris Gordon
Better, but you really gotta do something about that color scheme.
- mike fabio
Great work! Would be really nice to get the last modified time back next to the title of the groups. That saved me a lot of unnecessary clicks in the non-beta version.
- Christoph Studer
Boris: Not essential, that's true, but extremely useful.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
rob friendman -- I am talking about the create a feed function that allowed you to create the equivalent of imaginary friends.
- Brian Sullivan
I still think that the "My discussions" link under Friends should really be "My likes and comments", since there are some posts in that feed that are just ones I "liked" and have 0 comments, from me or anyone else. Would you call a post with no comments a "discussion"?
- Nathan Chase
Nathan: you are right, those should probably not be in that feed.
- Bret Taylor
We are still working out imaginary friends functionality. It is on our radar.
- Bret Taylor
Nice. An improvement in my book.
- AJ Kohn
I like it. Now give us skins so we can change the color scheme. I also wish I could put searches at top.
- Robert Scoble
Bret: cool - just a little semantic thing I figured you might have overlooked - and something that could be confusing for new users.
- Nathan Chase
Bret, you guys have moved the filters to the bottom of the sidebar. Can you please put them back to where they were?
- Kol Tregaskes
I like separate groups. As for positioning - it would be easy to make the boxes draggable, so people can order them how they like?
- Neil Saunders
anyway i can switch my account totally over to the beta UI? so any ff link i click on goes to the beta....thx
- patrick
let me choose the sequence of the boxes - like "saved searches" on top!
- Kishore Balakrishnan
Agreed a nice dark skin would be awesome
- Kashif Khan
Can we have the "last modified time" back for each individual group? Anyway, this navigation is much better. Thanks!
- Winston Teo
agree with Neil Saunders
- پـرستووو
Still wish there was a way to hide the top and side bars for use in a widget style browser window. Till then there's always greasemonkey http://is.gd/rBrh
- KyleHase
from twhirl
Thanks, Bret. You guys -- FF team and product -- are awesome!
- Eric Johnson
Thank you Thank you Thank you! Loving the beta and the FFteam's responsiveness
- Keith - @tsudo
Why is this showing up in my timeline? It says because one of the people I'm subscribed to Liked it. I'm not a member of the room and I'm not subscribed to the original poster (Sorry Bret!) But I swear I've turned off FoaF every day and this keeps happening.
- Paul Reynolds
We have more consistent terminology now; good. Now can we have more sophisticated feed-composition tools? How about one-touch "create group from saved search"? And how about fixing the "private group - standard FEED - public group" inconsistency?
- Karl Knechtel
I don't think we need full skinning capabilities - just a colour chooser for each coloured element. Also, the prefs link for Groups is a bit ugly. I don't like magically appearing links.
- Karl Knechtel
Overall, big improvements, guys. :)
- Karl Knechtel
@patrick: every element of the beta UI should have a beta URL already. Any links that you click in posts are whatever URL is actually specified in the post.
- Karl Knechtel
Bret, this is great news. I'll leave the cosmetics to better people. I like things as is :)
- Deepak Singh
@Paul Reynolds: FoaF can be turned off?
- Karl Knechtel
We just pushed a fix for IE 7/8. If you were using IE, you should refresh. Sorry for the problems.
- Bret Taylor
Nice improvements, FF team.
- Micah Wittman
Yes! Thank You! You guys are awesome!
- Alfredo
I love it - especially the filters at the bottom (I use Lists, more often). That said, I like Kishore's suggestion -> let us choose the ordering of the boxes.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Very good improvement, but would like to have another box of favorite friends. I wouldn't mind if I could set this up like the groups box, or if it would just remember who I clicked on the most.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Simpler... When is the mobile version coming out?
- Brian Kenyon
Well done.
- Steven Perez
Bret: theming? Please elaborate!
- Ryan Miller
Thank you!
- Kemal Hadimli
It is awesome Bret!
- Akira Kojima Simpson
from twhirl
I would really appreciate if we could drag and drop items and boxes. I want to order all this.
- Stanislas Jourdan
While the new sidebar order is good, I'm having fun getting rid of two saved searches which only bring up an "edit new filter/search page. It'd be nice to have some way to edit/delete searches, like with the groups and friends boxes. Still waiting for someone to give me a tip on how to remove those two links from the list otherwise.
- George Hall (Australia)
George: Click the "Saved Searches" title, then select the feed from the left-hand side, then click Delete.
- Karl Knechtel
much better!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
like it! only thing i don't like is that i have to scroll down everytime i wanna see my saves searches now...
- Peter Efland
Peter, yep to me that's in completely the wrong place. It's the second most important new feature on FF (behind real-time) and it's now "hidden" at the bottom. I have a large list of Groups and means big scroll down to the Saved Searches, which I use a LOT. Please either return them back to the second tab down or give us the option to select what sidebars we have and what order they appear on the bar?
- Kol Tregaskes
Bret, this is great, especially being able to see all of my groups. But I agree with just about everyone else, I'd prefer to have my saved searches above groups. There is still enough room to add subscriptions as well . . . maybe??
- Chris Loft
Nice change. Please sort out the color palette next :-)
- Alex Gawley
I like it, although the name filter was better, I think. Besides putting the Searches under Friends, it would be good if the Groups would change order in relation to recent activity, like it used to be.
- Alejandro
I like the way things are separated, now. However, I too have a lot of lists to scroll past to get to groups and saved searches. It would be nice to move the saved searches and groups above the lists. Definitely loving the beta, though!
- Seth Greenblatt
Hmmm.... I still cannot edit a list created from the "likes" of my friends. The UI doesn't allow me to manage the friend list. I cannot tell the likes to which I'm subscribed or add/remove others.
- Anthony K. Valley ©
much better now
- Mahsa Z
A number of feeds I set up are showing as Groups. Is that right? I set up a number of Twitter feeds (e.g. "Twitter - Al Yankovic") for nonFF Tweeters. It's a little confusing since now they're listed as a Group when their settings are "Standard Feed".
- CAJ, somewhere else
I guess feeds that aren't individuals are groups :-)
- Neil Saunders
Alan has a point.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
separate groups section is good. now about labelling content sources rather than people... (would be nice to have this at least as an option: show user avatar OR show content source - then those of us who read by content are happy, and those who read by user are happy)
- Richard Akerman
Alejandro, I first thought I'd miss "filter" but actually prefer "saved searches" now. Well because they are, aren't they? Makes things easier to understand. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
good point Kol
- Alejandro
Voice chat in groups could be nice :)
- Nir Ben Yona
Thank you!
- Iván Abrego
I use filters a lot and now on the HP Mini I have to scroll down the window to get to the next filter I want to check which then scrolls the page back up to the top after picking it. I have nine filters that I check probably once an hour. The page scrolling is tedious to go through. Is there a way you could move Filters up above Groups either manually or automatically based on most common use?
- Loren Heiny
Thank you! Navigating to groups/rooms was a pain.
- amygeek
Nice Job, I like it. It feels simpler and will be welcoming to new users.
- Poor Gamer
I also don't care for the name change at the top of the "Search results." The name of the search was better at least for how I use it. I can see the actual search criteria in the seach box. I don't need it in both places. Plus, when I'm clicking through a list of saved searches one at a time I often forget where I am in the list. The title helped me keep track.
- Loren Heiny
Kewl!
- Charlie Anzman
Love it. Thank you guys very much!
- Josh Haley
"Atom feeds" are not a "small missing components"!!! :) .. as on abay +++++AAAA+++AAAA for beta.FriendFeed
- CantorJF
Just noticed the new groups sidebar. Thank you!
- Carmen
Seems like the green box should be titled "Friend Lists" (in an actual Friends list, I'd expect to see Joe, Mary, Bob, etc. -- right now, there's a pretty big disconnect btw typical user expectations and what's appearing in that box). And maybe the browse/edit should then be titled "Browse/edit friend lists".
- Christopher Galtenberg
Even more unexpected is that when I click on Friends, I also see Groups. There should probably be another split, so we have Lists, Friends, and Groups. Bret, you guys are going to run out of colors soon! :)
- Daniel Sims
And would you *please* give us custom backgrounds and colors?
- Gaby K. Slezák
Karl: tried it, but it only brings up a new filter again. If one could edit one's "saved searches list by the NAME of the filter, it'd be easy to delete it. But your suggestion didn't bring up anything that could help me get rid of the two empty filters. Neither has a delete button.
- George Hall (Australia)
Ana is a boat enthusiast?
- Benjamin Golub
Karl:don't know whether my desktop wasn't showing the left-side bar, but late last night, I was looking at a list of my saved searches with the delete button active for all things in the list. Finally got rid of those two items that were only bringing up a search/filter page. That left-side bar with all listed searches is an elegant solution.
- George Hall (Australia)
Dont like it. No longer can get Twit Conversations to show up in Groups.. only in Home even if I add it to Groups!
- Greg
Is there a way to delete a room you've created not just unsubscribe? Thanks!
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I'd like this feature too, tia
- Chris Nuttall
Yeah, I'd like it too. And to underscore the usefulness of such a feature I created this room with the deliberate intent of deleting it as soon as "delete room" becomes available. http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Dominic Jones
Cities and Ambition - http://www.paulgraham.com/cities...
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A friend who moved to Silicon Valley in the late 90s said the worst thing about living there was the low quality of the eavesdropping. At the time I thought she was being deliberately eccentric. Sure, it can be interesting to eavesdrop on people, but is good quality eavesdropping so important that it would affect where you chose to live? Now I understand what she meant. The conversations you overhear tell you what sort of people you're among.
- Scot Mcphee
Scot: funny, that sounds like my ex wife. Of course anytime you are out in the valley people are talking about business and geeky stuff. I hear NONE of that when I'm in other cities except for maybe parts of NYC and Seattle. I always miss coming home because of the conversations that are going on here. But if you aren't into tech, business, or what's on TechCrunch or VentureBeat you probably won't want to live here, absolutely right.
- Robert Scoble
Well it depends on what you find interesting. SF/SV to me is *still* the wild west of business and technology which isn't for everyone. No where else do I find such energy. I've ridden the roller coaster up and down and back up. I wouldn't trade it. The other thing is ... we converse differently and overhear differently. Heck, I just overheard this conversation ...
- AJ Kohn
Yes, it's one of the most insightful articles Paul Graham has written yet. It's very true that cities that have 'ambition' each have a different *kind* of ambition. What I think is interesting is the kind of second-tier ambitions that second and third tier cities develop, which Graham doesn't pick up on. I had to junk Sydney after I got sick of its real-estate-obsessed ambition (where success is defined as proximity to the Harbour or the ocean). Also I think Graham mischaracterises London's ambition!
- Scot Mcphee
What a remarkable article. I haven't lived here in Seattle long enough to understand its 'ambition' yet (I get the feeling that its some combination of "work harder", "be wealthier" and "live better"), but his understanding of New York City's ambition is spot on.
- Jeffrey Canton
50 Extremely Useful And Powerful CSS Tools | CSS | Smashing Magazine - http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008...
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Let me google that for you - http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/
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That is brilliant. I need this at least a dozen times a day.
- James Schipper
Priceless.
- Stowe Boyd
greaaat!
- ali
I wish I had this years ago.
- Robert Scoble
I loved it!
- Steve Garfield
from twhirl
holiness. top five, this will save me so much time.
- Joshua Kahn
from twhirl
The three drivers of growth for your business model. Choose one. - http://startuplessonslearned.b...
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This presentation should be required reading for anyone creating a startup with an online service component. The AARRR model (hence pirates, get it?) is an elegant way to model any service-oriented business:
- Hayk H.
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