This one's actually my conference that I'm putting on with David Meerman Scott and Paul Gillin for CrossTech Media. Should be fun. Lots of neat points to it, like 10 minute speaking sessions versus long blather, and 5 minute demo flashes instead of pitches. That kind of fun. : ) - Chris Brogan
don't... they will delete your account. you are talking about corporations here? or real business? How is it that Hamas and Hezballah have a twitter account and somehow twitter thinks I am more dangerous? What a joke this twitter network really is. - Noah David Simon
Hey.. what can I say? I was left speechless. I don't understand how Chris has all this information flowing. ALL THE TIME. - Kyle Lacy
24/7: Chris Brogan's brain: Open all night. - Kyle Lacy
Noah is right. Corporations are not business. This might be better used for the government of China. twitter is not good for small business. - Sara Beach
I completely disagree. I have gotten business from Twitter.. it is about authenticity and creating relationships.. not spamming. - Kyle Lacy
The problem is most small biz owners have yet to learn how to communicate via social media.. they can learn though. - Kyle Lacy
time time time... small biz don't have the time... Chris Brogan mentioned large corporations. your point is moot Kyle - Noah David Simon
and solo act too, Noah. But Kyle, if existing strategies that you are familiar with work for you, then fine. Otherwise, I don't know there's other options but to go out from the comfort zone and learn. - Hendry Lee via twhirl
I see a lot of uses for social media.... but it is not advertising and PR. ....education, entertainment... even employment bonding... but promotion is not best here... unless you can really overburden a scene... and that is very very wrong. as for a mom and pop biz... they simply can't get iJustine and Veronica to gee golly wiz the little guy. I'm an artist... and I have optimism... but artists are small business people... and for the most part... this social media experience has been a fail. - Noah David Simon
if anything this experience has hurt my reputation... I would never recommend doing this unless this is what you want to do full time... twitter is unforgiving and libelous. - Noah David Simon
that isn't to say that it is bad here. I mention iJustine... who is nice enough to leave my drawings on her facebook profile... however... in the long run promotion here has been a hole in my time. this is an incestuous mono-culture. There is no place for any free thought... or persuasion. - Noah David Simon
if anything social media is a very efficient brain washing tool. Resistance is futile... you must support this cause or you are blocked and no one reads your comments. it is frankly a sad interaction... and experiment in mob tyranny. The worst aspect of a niche market. Twitter is going to go down in history as a social experiment that made people very miserable and lashed out at the people who put their time into it. ...it remains to be seen if something better can come along.... - Noah David Simon
somehow I have a feeling that what takes twitter's place will not have the kind of zealous idealism that twitter had. the whole idea of free expression failed when twitter left a hole open for @panopticons. free expression and retweeting no longer were legitimate. they crucified the questioner. - Noah David Simon
free will in an infrastructure is not a good archetype. the inherent nature of socializing will test the lines... so now we know we want structure... and once that enters the equation then it is no longer social like life itself. online interaction is inherantly built on training wheels... (those training wheels better not be business promotion) - Noah David Simon
btw... I mention free thought and persuasion... the only reason I'm getting away with saying this is because you probably agree with me. it isn't that twitter isn't for big business, but rather that is inherently a mob tyranny and perhaps big corporations are natural to this ecosystem. Why encourage it? It is not good at all. - Noah David Simon
Is it okay to mix business with the personal on Twitter? My fed agency doesn't have a handle on how to use socmed tools, so I've just been exploring them on my own. I view it as 50% devoted to my personal life and 50% devoted to promoting the NEA and the arts/culture in general. Does it discredit the NEA work that under the same handle I twitter about which workout videos I'm currently tackling? Shankman seems to do both, and that's the model I'm following, but curious to hear your thoughts as well. Thanks for the posts--I'm really learning a lot. - Paulette Beete
in-house, ok, but if any business tweets me, i will hate them subconsciously .. or even quite consciously ... now service, in response to a problem, like firefox does, is quite nice. - gregory lent
@Paulette- I say yes. In fact, it's required. You have to be human. - Chris Brogan
Paulette twitter is perfect for a government agency. That is why twitter accepts terrorist governments like Hamas but not artists like myself. I would keep your personal maintenance to yourself as a rule of thumb. BTW I just farted. - Noah David Simon
@Noah small biz do not have time because they are confused on how to utilize the tool. - Kyle Lacy
Kyle the way to use the tool is through group peer pressure and intimidation. "mom and pop businesses" just don't know who to do that well. so I guess we agree Kyle. If they knew how to intimidate and humiliate any self interested individuals then they wouldn't be small business, they would be the Democratic party. - Noah David Simon
My event calendar is noted here. I tell ya, there's too many events. And Vegas isn't a good place to hold a smaller event. It's too impersonal and there's too many distractions. - Robert Scoble
Robert - your event calendar is a service at this point, like your Shared Items. In my estimation, and I want to talk with you about this at Gnomedex, if you'd spare a moment, you've moved from being the prototypical ambassador to being the web's first super-curator. - Chris Brogan
Chris, I would venture to say you're approaching that point yourself. :) - Daniel Johnson, Jr.
it is somebody's business, there will be more and more, until saturation, and beyond ... and yes, mr. scoble is a weather vane, a prophet, a guiding light .. far more than a curator - gregory lent
I've had the dropped calls on alot of phones, the resets stopped for me after 2.0.1, and I'm not sure what you mean by an "immature OS", but I prrefer it to other smart phones. - Blackopsmanners
Has everybody had this many problems? I haven't had too much wrong with mine except for problems with visual voicemail, and that's not available anywhere else - I'd be curious to read what people have to say in comments. - Sanjay
The only disappointment I've had with the 2nd generation iPhone has been the GPS which rarely gives me the blue dot. - Akiva Moskovitz
Even with the 2.0.2 update I still get better 3G connectivity on my Windows Mobile phone in the same spots than I do with the iPhone. I have tons of dropped calls a day. UI gets sluggish and barely usable (like writing emails or sending text messages). Like Chris, I often have to do hard resets just to get hte phone to work. - Brandon LeBlanc via twhirl
I agree. And mine crashed the day I bought it >:( - Jax Dragon
You must be one of the 2%, 'cause mine rocks... either that or user error - Jason Carreira
Don't know about the actual phone, but on my iPhone 1.0 the OS bugs have been about fixed. Also I think that at&t service is crappy. Were I live there is like no service. Also I think Apple should have set up their own towers. - Daniel
I've had none of these problems with my 3G. Must be a hardware defect afflicting a small population. - Kevin Fox
I have a love/hate relationship with mine. Not sure what I could replace it with though. there's just nothing that compares IMO - Jesse Stay
mine hasn't crashed since the first update - battery is fine for my usage - applications just work (though some do indeed crash) - it definitely has less dropped calls than my last phone - Frederic
Wow. I've got the BlackBerry Curve and have enjoyed it lots. the boss is buying me a 2.0 iPhone. I've got this fear that I'm going to hate it. - Chris Brogan
The signal is a bit weak compared to my last phone, but no major problems. I love the applications. - Charles Lacz
Why is it if people don't experience these problems themselves they easily shrug it off as a problem "afflicting" a small portion of iPhone users. Because you don't have any problems hardly means its not impacting a good amount of people. - Brandon LeBlanc via twhirl
@chris brogan same here. I love my Curve, the only issue is that sometimes it freezes. - Phillip Jeffrey
@Brandon because Steve Jobs came out and said it was a problem affecting 2% of phones - Jason Carreira
To paraphrase Winston Churchill: It has been said that the iPhone is the worst form of smart phone - except all the others that have been tried. - invariant
My dad still has a great rotary dial. Has never crashed in 30 years. Next... - rob
As far as I know, my mother still has a rotary phone hanging in the garage. It can receive calls but, unsurprisingly, it can't make them. - Akiva Moskovitz
HATER! EVERYBODY DON'T BUY AN I-PHONE WHAT HIS NAME SAYS ITS BAD - orionstarr
Never dropped a call here, though I live in the city of AT&T's former international headquarters. - Robert Haas
The iPhone is the best smartphone, hands down. The problem here is that you expect it to be like all other apple products...near perfect. In the cell phone market, this is not really possible yet because apple does not own the telecommunications company. - Bob Blunk
I don't have problems with dropped calls, but 3G sucks in San Francisco on it. - Thomas Hawk
Absolutely LOVED my 1st gen iPhone with 1.1.4 firmware. Ever since the firmware upgrade ... suckage. Slow apps, frequent crashes, poor battery life ... that has NOTHING to do with cell coverage or network. It's ALL on Apple. *booo* - tj hanton
I'm trying to figure out what smart-phone to buy http://is.gd/1Nx3, so I'd appreciate any comments/hints/recommendations. - Alex Popescu
I love my blackberry. Never drop calls (even in the mountains), qwerty keyboard, awesome. I never actually "surf" on my phone so I'm perfectly happy with the browser for my immediate needs (ie - Wikipedia for bar arguments) - George Smith
I love my blackberry 8150 pearl also. surfing is great...Google apps work beautifully. email always right there...good speakerphone..no complaints1 - John Foss
Gotta say I disagree. I've been using the iPhone 3G for a month and am pretty happy. I haven't had many problems with it. It's not perfect, but I'm glad I switched from my Blackberry. - Mark Logan
I'm a blackberry owner too and want to gloat about what a wonderful phone I have. It's a 8300 curve with no dropped calls, it has a Internet browser that isn't 3G but that's why I also carry a really nice iPod touch. The blackberry operating system works really great, with no problems at all. I also have push email. And I got google maps, gmail all on the phone. :) - Colide81
I was REALLY happy with the iPhone v1. The 3G has been lass reliable, but I love the apps. Updated to 2.0.2 yesterday and so far so good. Fresh issues aside, I'd never switch back to BlackBerry. I love my iPhone dearly. - (steve isaacs)
The new iPhone sheen is wearing off for me, too. I neglected to charge mine last night so now I have a dead phone. The battery life is poor. Reception not good, either. My screen requires constant cleaning. I'd say as a pocket computer it's very cool, but as a phone it's debateable. - Jason Kaneshiro
The styling is awesome, the screen is fantastic (when they don't use a bad supplier) and the browser is pretty good. The rest of the functionality? I prefer my Winmo phones which are pretty mature. The HTC Diamond Pro should bring it all together and not force me onto AT&. - Soulhuntre
And as its from Apple I bet you paid a tonne for it? I'm very happy to never have owned or desired to own anything from Apple. I'll give it to them their marketing department is brilliant but I seem to find their products are over-hyped versions of other products/unoriginal features put into a new box, more expensive and lesser quality. - Kol Tregaskes
my housemate has a 3G and it's UI is annoyingly sluggish. I used it briefly and it was immediately evident. He hates that part of it. - Chieze Okoye
Just as an FYI- aside from rooms- I use a firefox add-on called "stylize" that colorizes my friends. Much diff than a private room, but effective for what it does. - Jason Kintzler
making a room seems like your best bet. - Steve Spalding
there's a greasemonkey scripts that allows you to make your own groups too - Sarah Perez
@Jason, link to Stylize? a search on firefox site didn't find it. - Carla Thompson
If Spam didn't work, you wouldn't get any. Just like direct mail and telemarketing - it will stop when it becomes unprofitable. Until then, get used to it. (Spam has an even greater head start because it is inherently cheap.) - AJ Kohn
oh yes, i have for fun. my limit is $20 and we have product demostrations. on my old blog, i had reviews on some of the crap i bought. - faboo mama
Brian, I agree. It should be closer to 80% with the 90,10,1 rule. The rest are just too embarrassed to admit it. - John Frost
No way. If it worked this well, more legit organizations would be using it. Right now, spammers who sell products are often deceiving even their customers about what the click-through rate is going to be. The rest are organized crime. - Neil Kandalgaonkar
I suspect these 'surveys' are using expansive definitions of spam, including newsletters from organizations that you've bought from before. - Neil Kandalgaonkar
About 29% of Americans can't find Canada on a map. The same 29%? - Dror Shimshowitz
29% of Americans support President Bush. - James Prudente
You're joking?!!?? Absolutely not, are there really people out there that are that stupid? - Kol Tregaskes via twhirl
About 2-4 times a year, I get a SPAM e-mail that I like. That's about 2-4 out of 40,000 = 0.005-0.01%. Lousy ratio compared to 0.5-3.0% direct mail or opt-in-e-mail, but I guess it works for many companies. - Mitchell Tsai
e-commerce, 'e' stands for e-mail :-D - Yung-Hui Lim
Never forget that things happen for a reason. There wouldn't be spam if it didn't work at least one in one billion times. That's all it takes. That's okay. Bill Gates solved spam back in 2006 or so. - Chris Brogan
i'm still waiting for my $29 million check from those guys in Nigeria. what's up with that? - .LAG
Where the hell did they find these people? At an idiots conventions? That number sounds exceptionally high!! - Paul OFlaherty
a security company suggests that 29% of survey "respondents" admit to purchasing something from a spam email. 622 survey participants, ~150 admit to purchases. So, 150 purchasers who visit a security company's website has been extrapolated to the entire population of the internet. well done. - Chris Hollander
oh, and by the way, the security company that did the survey happens to sell anti-spamware software. but I'm sure that's just a coincidence. - Chris Hollander
Makes perfect sense. There's a reason there's so much spam -- people respond. - Charles Barthold via Alert Thingy
Overheard from a CTO at a big tech company: Cloud Computing is used to describe everything, and therefore it's used to describe nothing. - Jeremiah Owyang
Great post, Mark. Being a long time enterprise guy, I'm a bit happy that folks are embracing the overall concept, but the term is about as airy as Web 2.0 these days. - Chris Brogan
I'd say the same thing happens with "Widget" versus "Application" - Nick O'Neill
I disagree with Chris on this. I've seen some very good definitions that make sense to me. - Dennis Howlett via twhirl
@dennis The mangling I've seen jives with what Chris said, and it seems like it's really ratcheted up in the last couple of weeks. There was a pretty clear understanding of it before that, but the usage of the word seems to have grown out of hand lately. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou!!!!! - Andrew Feinberg
Cool, but he didn't consider the possibility of using the waste heat from computers and home entertainment devices to reduce the work done by heating systems - Slippy Lane
That's actually pretty clever, Slippy. - Chris Brogan
Hicks: "hey vasquez have you ever been mistaken for a man?" Vasquez (female) "no, have you?" - Jeremiah Owyang
Hicks: "What do you mean, 'They cut the power?' How could they cut the power, man? They're ANIMALS!" (paxton had all the best lines, then paul reiser) - .LAG
The "game over man. Game over...etc." rant - Abby Martin
"I guess she doesn't like the cornbread either." - Tim Chemacki
One of my favorite movies. Too many great quotes. - Tim Chemacki
"somebody wake up hicks" Sarge, during dropship deployment - Jeremiah Owyang
Hudson: "Why don't we put HER in charge?!?" referring to "Newt" - the little girl. - Tim Chemacki
"Were in the pipe, Five by Five" -Female Pilot (which was later repurposed in Starcraft 1 by the Dropship captain - Jeremiah Owyang
"were in an express elevator to hell...going down!" -Hudson - Jeremiah Owyang
Hudson: Well that's great, that's just &%$#! great, man. Now what the &%$#! are we supposed to do? We're in some real pretty &%$#! now man! - Don K
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. - Ripley - Erik Sebellin-Ross
"OK everybody, you know the drill: a**holes & elbows!" - Sarge - Tim Chemacki
"You're dogmeat pal!" - Hudson to Burke - Tim Chemacki
Bishop: "I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid." bit of a fail tho - I had to look up IMDB to see who was the 'artificial person' - martin english
"Not bad, for a human..." Bishop to Ripley - jyamasaki
I like Hicks' reference to "pointed sticks" in the Extended Edition. - dennis d. mcdonald
"Bishop, I though you never miss" (In reference to the knife/finger trick - Jeremiah Owyang
"I just need to know one thing: where...they...are." - Vasquez - Tim Chemacki
"They come out at night... mostly" - Newt to Ripley. To this day I still can't say "mostly" without hearing her voice. - Jim Goldstein
Newt: "We'd better get back, 'cause it'll be dark soon, and they mostly come at night... mostly." Also, anything by Bill Paxton's character. - Jeff Beckham
"...stay frosty..." - only because it was used by Guardian Bob in the television series Reboot. - Michael Bekiaris
"Get away from her you... bitch!!!" - Ripley to the queen alien - Jim Goldstein
"I made a bad call Ripley. So I made a bad call." Burke to Ripley - Jim Goldstein
"Maybe we could build a fire, sing a couple of songs, huh? Why don't we try that? " - Burke after the shuttle crashes - Jim Goldstein
Damn you Jeremiah now I need to watch this movie and soon LOL I may just have to have an Aliens movie get together. - Jim Goldstein
Sounds like you already know it by heart. It's on Comcast "on demand" - Jeremiah Owyang
I'm with Abby- Game Over, Man! Game Over!!! - Chris Brogan
Not sure if ON Demand is 5.1 sound, but there is nothing like watching that movie with 2 300W sub-woofers in 5.1 surround. When I first got the LaserDisc back in the day my system caused the popcorn ceiling to rain down. It was the first disc I put in the new home theater. Unbeknownst to me I had the subs on the highest setting versus the lowest. Ah the memories - Jim Goldstein
ummm popcorn ceiling is often carcinogenic...careful there. - Jeremiah Owyang
"How do I get out of this chickenshit outfit?" Hudson - Alex Scoble
"A day in the marines is like a day on the farm. Every meal a banquet, every formation, a parade! I love the CORP!" Sgt. Apone - Alex Scoble
Hehe, yes. Though I do wonder if there's a way FF can somehow filter when multiple items in a friend's feed are simply echoes. But then the convos, like this, around that repeat would be missed... - Leif Hansen
Right. I should delete when I bookmark my own blog post. - Chris Brogan
That could get seriously time consuming :) - Leif Hansen
Hmm.. My cousin who was born in 2002? Z? Their lives/way of growing up is going to be drastically different than mine... - Yuvi
I couldn't be happier growing up in the 70s/80s... I was born in 75 and people in our generation literally grew up with computers. from my first commodore 16 to an amiga, to a 286... oh the memories. :) Plus, we still ran around outside, rode ridiculously long ways on our bikes just to explore stuff and basically ran amok. I'll take that over a nintendo ds in the back seat of a minivan anyday. I can't believe I am all... "back in my day..." oh boy. - Scott Lockhart
Proud to be an Xer ! (maybe plus a little :) - Charlie Anzman
Rodney Dangerfield- "I haven't spoken to my wife in years. I didn't want to interrupt her" - Toby Graham
I have to say as an early millenial ('79), I'm only just getting round to taking life seriously, so watch out X'ers here we come... - Toby Graham
whatever the generation, it is the state of consciousness that matters - gregory lent
