Isn't my blog my home base? Contrary to *some* beliefs (giggle) I still engage in comments - Erin Kotecki Vest
Rob - I've never been a blogger, except for microblogging and that doesn't count. I'm not a content creator, per se (I don't lead conversations) - I engage and contribute to them. - Sonciary Honnoll
Sonciary: yup, that's a good point. Plus, FriendFeed gets into Google. Google is how most people find new places to go on the Internet. - Robert Scoble
chris: ff is an aggregation of all of our home base(s) easily available in one simple interface - put a different way "all your base are belong to us" - happy 4th to you & yours btw :) - mike "glemak" dunn
Glemak: Thanks and to yours, too. Nomads. Is Mr. Rubel finally right in his most recent few posts? Have we snuck off into RSS, only to leave a tiny trail behind for the non-edgelings? - Chris Brogan
Robert- Huh. I saw 2.0 but not 2.1. Neat new stuff there. (or if it's always been there, I guess I missed it the first time). - Chris Brogan
I comment a lot here, but FF & Seesmic have got me blogging again - this time visually with images & video. Example: my HD interview with FF founder Bret Taylor: http://www.deanterry.com/blog - Dean Terry
Interesting trend - seeing analysts moving to independence. Wonder who will follow. Though, I'm sure there are huge benefits associated with staying with a firm. - Sonciary Honnoll
Yeah, I get it as a driver for the source code, which is good in terms of distributed microblogging. I'd just like to see something original versus a copycat launched before it's fully feature-ized. - Jennifer Leggio
Hasn't been working well for me and many others. Had to post through ping.fm earlier. But yes it's still very new. - Devin Anderson via fftogo
Bwana - Maybe it's my enterprise tech snobbery but I always find it baffling how in the consumer world it's OK to put out something half-baked and it can be adopted but you can nary pull that off when servicing businesses. - Jennifer Leggio
I wouldn't even consider identi.ca part of the consumer world. It's in the early early early early adopter phase. It's going to be half baked, half done, half featured, and broken. - Bwana McCall
Well, I'm not one to jump on a bandwagon so I'll watch from afar and see what comes of it, mostly in seeing what companies do with the code when there are more available features. Half the people around here can barely sit down since they are too busy running from one shiny object to another. - Jennifer Leggio
I can't speak for anyone else, but for me, I don't have a problem trying these services, analyzing them, reporting my findings, then moving on. It's a hobby of mine. I love testing software. - Bwana McCall
check out what @corvida wrote about it http://shegeeks.net/ - expect all those features and more... they're doing pretty well for day 2. :) - Lucretia Pruitt
Not a thing wrong with that. Your insight is always great and balanced. It's the jumping up and down and waving of the arms and the screams of "look! I am an early adopter!" that are kind of pesky. :) - Jennifer Leggio
Identi.ca needs search for sure...still, it's easier to use then Plurk in some ways... - Tom
They think they are providing a public service. What they don't realize is, its going to take a whole lot more than that to make me go get a life. - Russell Holliman
I just snorted with laughter, Russell. Look how fast we throw our heroin over here instead. : ) - Chris Brogan
Alright, Chris just made me do a spit take...thumping my arm, lookin' for a vein, LOL - Cheryl Allin
Maybe while you and the rest of the team are looking for Ahab, Chris... others will recognize FriendFeed has played the part of the Wright Brothers. It's a new age. - Louis Gray
As evidenced by this conversation, eh Louis? I used to disagree with you on this. Now I feel like you've been on to this since forever, and I'm just now catching up to it. - Chris Brogan
The truth is, Chris, is that this isn't an either/or, although "battles" are more fun. The answer is simply, both. That Twitter has made themselves a laughingstock is frustrating, because when it does what it is supposed to, it can be very useful. - Louis Gray
Different kind of conversation. Need to be careful with follow. Smaller voices get drowned out. Unlike @ (and I do mean @) Twitter. @ reply feature is *powerful.* - Barbara K. Baker
I wonder, though, how this whole scatter of media makes it all work? Feels like too many rabbit holes here, or maybe that's the beauty? Feels like we can go all over the place, never really catching up to all the conversations. Non? - Chris Brogan
Chris, there's no one right answer. The power of aggregation is to have multiple conversations come in one place. The power of diversification is to have many separate conversations tailored for a specific crowd in more vertical places. The best bloggers and social media users will participate and engage where the best conversations are, and leverage search or other tools to be aware. Given the # of hours in a day is limited, how you use your time is up to you. - Louis Gray
Begging the question, when will Summize dig into FriendFeed? - Chris Brogan
I am seriously sick of the "what will kill X" conversations... - Jennifer Leggio
Me too. I wasn't saying it like that. I really meant the whale graphic, not the app. I'm a Twitter nerd. What can I say? - Chris Brogan
fwiw, twitter's back up again. shortest twitter outage ever. - Russell Holliman
Chris - That comment wasn't directed toward you. :) - Jennifer Leggio
Me think Robert Scoble is scared of the Great White Whale! Remember what happened last time? The Whale got his foot, and now he limps with a wooden stump. Oh Scoble where is thy Whale who swims the great vast internetz. - Igor The Troll
In my living room - I like television... in my car - I prefer radio. Just because I have a TV doesn't mean I don't want my radio to work in my car. Friend Feed is my TV - it's deeper, richer, requires more attention and time. Twitter is my radio - I'll sing along, drum on the wheel, but the static is getting annoying. It's time for them to up the signal. But meanwhile, FriendFeed/TV is rockin' it. - Lucretia Pruitt
I speak whale. Aeeeeeeeeewaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhooooooooooo. - Ryan Kuder
Ryan, well that was rude. There are women here, watch your language. :( - Bwana McCall
Didn't Moby Dick kill Ahab and the rest of the crew (except for ol' call me Ishmael)? It's been a long time since I read it, I could be wrong. - Kirk Kittell
It is good not great. You can tell they edited it a great deal. For instance, they refer to a kiss that was edited out completely. Ditto for the abilities and how they fluctuate. There is a good movie in there somewhere, but it wasn't set free. It is not waste of time, it just isn't great in my opinion. My wife and eldest were kinder to it, but they didn't think it was any where near Iron Man or what they expect from the Dark Knight. - RAPatton
Well, at least you weren't completely disappointed in it. - Yolanda
Yolanda, even in my old age I see a lot of movies, so I can pretty critical at the top end. Hancock is the only show in town, and if you want to get out of the heat and have seen everything else then go. There is some humor, but the best moments are in the trailer. I knew the big reveal a long time ago, so when other people were surprised I was not. - RAPatton
Pass on the Jr. Mints but this is making me miss Girl Scout Cookies. - Mark Forman
but i will say, rap: excellent mini review! :) - edythe
I'd drive your mother nuts, but I do that to most; glad you liked the mini review. - RAPatton
In my Freshman Year, I saw more than 200 movies in a theater. And that is not an estimate, we actually counted them in Senior year. I still watch 2 movies a week on an average in the theater, DVDs don't just gimme the same pleasure. RAPatton: Thanks for the review. - Parth Awasthi
parth, you are my kind of guy! I dont watch very many DVDs either - RAPatton
ha. friendfeed comment sections are beginning to be as funny as the reddit comment sections. hmmm...probably just all the same users. - mike via twhirl
Possibly. And other clones have come along. But with identi.ca I have *never* seen such a rush of Twitter faithful to a new clone. We. Are. Frustrated. ;-( - Barbara K. Baker
they might fall apart but its where everyone built their networks, no way to export all the friends, the conversations. you can emulate some of the more active relationships when you move to a new network but the piecemeal people get left behind. twitter is special - Paul Rj Muller via twhirl
Yes Friendster indeed ... and MySpace swept in and cleaned up the pieces, just as FriendFeed looks poised to do ... - Mark Jeffrey
“Would all you socmed mavens like to take this opportunity to stop pimping how gorgeous you are an dprovide some useful information? Just for a change?”
Don't hate us because we're beautiful. j/k - Morton Fox
How I know I'm not a socmed maven (which sounds somewhat like a matchmaker located near the french riviera if you ask me) is that I never pimp how gorgeous I am - but also have no useful information to withhold! :) - Lucretia Pruitt
I have a nice mango chutney recipe that I was going to share, but now that you had to be rude about it, I'm going to keep it to myself. Jerk. - Mark Trapp
Nope, I gotta keep on pimping. I think I may give myself "socmed maven" as a new title. Sweet. Thanks! - Kelby
@shelisrael1: I wasn't TELLING anyone to do anything. I asked a question. - Dennis Howlett via twhirl
I know Dennis, I just always get caught up in the shiny stuff on the side - Erin Kotecki Vest
SocMed it to me! Rowan & Martins Laugh-In. - Michael Tefft
What information do you desire Dennis? - Fred Grott
@Erin: shiny doesn't pput food on the table. That's where this stuff has to go and right now I don't see terribly much intelligence in that area. Hence my qu. - Dennis Howlett via twhirl
I'm beautiful and my blog is full of beautiful, useful information. Satisfied? :) - Aaron Brazell
My RSS feed is even more beautiful. All that Sexy XML. Show me some <boob></boob> - Aaron Brazell
@Fred - anything other than the facile nonsense I see floating in these services. No judgment implied to you but I have businesses to run. That means doing stuff and making money. - Dennis Howlett via twhirl
those kids and their damn "free videos." - Thomas Hawk
I'm not saying videos shouldn't be free. I'm saying that I'm already warmed up while enjoying some entertainment. If I wanted a follow-on product, it would be perfect timing. - Chris Brogan
I just noted on another FF thread that YouTube just added annotations support, but they only work on the youtube site. An attempt at a revenue model? http://friendfeed.com/e/07a990... - J. Phil
nice idea Chris...why not a little Amazon meets Google - Julian Baldwin
I will have to look for the link, but I had an article talking about the math of longtail advertising. I think it applies here. - Matt Hartley
No luck, could not find the article on ROI for RSS. That said, projected monetary over the course of a year might work?? - Matt Hartley
"The capitali- zation logic determines the present value of a worker (the value of her mortgaged home, car, and line of credit together being depen- dent on her expected lifetime earnings and the risk of her being laid off). It determines the present value of a government (the amount of its bond issues being dependent on its ability to levy taxes and the social risks that come with such levies). And it de- termines the present value of any stock of goods (being equal to their one-shot resale price, discounted for the time they will be sold and the risk that they may not). Clearly, then, in order to explain capitalization we need to look not backward to the "productive" articles that supposedly make up the asset, but forward to what the asset can earn and at what risk. " BAM. - Brad Fidler via twhirl
I don't exactly. I look for downstream effects. Can I show them x number of clickthroughs via the RSS? If so, then I can show them what I've done so far. - Chris Brogan via twhirl
And more simply, you can just set target URLs that expire and redirect to something else. I bet that would chop off the long flat boring part of the graph quite nicely. Oh ALSO: http://bnarchives.yorku.ca/203... (re:above) - Brad Fidler
“Where is "everyone" feed on iPhone interface? And how do I get classical UI back? And where is FriendFeed search on iPhone UI? Help me Bret Taylor!!! :-)”
search is at the bottom of the page Robert - MG Siegler
Thomas, we're mean.... Robert, what is the advantage of the iPhone version of FriendFeed over the regular version? - Ontario Emperor via fftogo
as for everyone, have no idea where they'd squeeze that in, it's so compact right now. i don't really use everyone that much, do you? too noisy. - MG Siegler
Ontario: the iPhone version is a lot nicer to read. I use "Everyone" all the time. I love the noise. I also use search on Everyone to see what other peeps are saying about things. - Robert Scoble
On regular FriendFeed, I go to "Everyone" if I want to search everyone. In fftogo, search is a separate item, so I never need to go to "Everyone." - Ontario Emperor via fftogo
Classical UI link is at the very bottom of the page ("Regular (non-iPhone) interface"). For searching on Everyone, you can do it in the search box by having "who:everyone" in your query. - Dan Hsiao
I'm loving the new iPhone FriendFeed interface! It's 90% functional, with the only thing missing is search. ;-) - darnell
@darnell again, search is at the bottom of the page. Think they took a cue from mobile gmail. - MG Siegler
They also need to put the Hide link on the iPhone FF version as well. Otherwise I'm lovin it! - Chris Rodgers
We need to put links to it. I removed it for space, but will add it back when I figure out a decent UI: http://friendfeed.com/iphone/p.... Search for who:everyone works from any search box. - Bret Taylor
I try to avoid using FF on an iPhone. I have better things to do when I'm on the move ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
I love that FF actually uses their own service. You would never expect Ev or Biz or Alex to respond to someone's post about Twitter. - Jesse Stay via twhirl
Agree with Jesse. Also note that Daniel Ha uses Disqus. - Ontario Emperor via fftogo
If you were serious about using Social Media for Social Good I wouldn't think you would sit on Feldman's "Council". Juvenile mean kids. - Jay Tannenbaum
My plan originally was that I'd be an ally on the inside. I'm planning to rescind at this point. - Chris Brogan
Chris, it would be kewl if you rescind and make a post on why you are rescinding. if you want to send a msg out, then do it .. its your choice to do something good - Peter Dawson
I understand completely Chris, no hard feelings I will remove your name from the council. - loren Feldman
fwiw, I dont like whats happened, but I do tip my hit to Loren. Why ? like he said, this is an excellent case study on social havoc trending. These trends, could either make or break a person and there inter-twingging of other social objects, just makes the case more interesting..aka dave W, Scobles, chris all throwing in different spanners into the works. The truth is Shel and Loren had a problem, but bloggers all picked sides and then it become a blowout blogfight ! - Peter Dawson
Chris, thanks for doing the right thing. - Jay Tannenbaum
Chris, thanks for doing the right thing. I won't be attending the Kangeroo Court. Either Loren is going to give me the domain name back or he isn't. - shelisrael1
Thanks, Loren, too. Believe it or not, I do see both angles and understand that some of this will be actual case study material in social computing. Probably not personally lovely for anyone involved. (Not probably: definitely), but I understand the perspective. - Chris Brogan
I appreciated the post, and used the thought in a post on engagement being much tougher to handle with all these new tools http://twurl.nl/expho0 - Daltonsbriefs
I'm almost there, but still nothing showing up. Will it be for "going forward" posts? - Chris Brogan
Chris, the Blogger versions grabs your last 90 entries. I assume WordPress is very much the same. Just wait a little for it to populate. - Louis Gray
When I set up something like this in Drupal there was about an hour lag between the comment in FriendFeed and showing up on my site. Prorogation delay for RSS feeds, or something like that. - Aldon Hynes
No perfect way. You can either keep getting the e-mail notifications and friend them back, or you can see those subscribed and add one by one. While that's tedious, I'd suggest that the FriendFeed relationship is not like Twitter. There's no need to 1:1 follow the way you use Twitter today. Instead, follow those who engage on your items after viewing their feeds and seeing if they will add value to you. There's no statistics race. It's about doing the right thing. :-) - Louis Gray
Thanks, Louis. I stopped getting the messages sent. Guess I'll pay attention a bit at a time. : ) - Chris Brogan
yeah, I need something easier too. Going through all the subscribers there is no easy way to find out if you already follow back, etc. GRRRR - Erin Kotecki Vest
agree w/ louis chris, because of the "friend of" feature you end up getting a lot more flow than your actual number of following folks, i'm at about a 1/3 of my twitter numbers and scaling slowly by design - mike "glemak" dunn
Agree with Louis...it is about finding the right thing. - kamla bhatt
Yep, gotta throw in on this one. I'm much more careful about who I'm subbing to here. Louis is correct, FF is different. On Twitter I felt I had to follow back, and I'm sure others I followed felt the same. Result...corrupted "followers" list. No longer. The streams here are richer and I'm more apt to linger n contribute to discussions. I can only do that if I'm tracking streams I'm more sure I'll find interesting. Flip side, also. If you browse my stream and don't find da goods I don't wanna be noise to u. - Jim Stanger
Why would you want to do that? IMHO, that makes about as much sense as it does in real life ;-) ("Oh, he likes me? I think I'll automatically like him!"). There are times and services that merit NOT automatically reciprocating, and I think Friendfeed is definitely among them. Wouldn't you at least want to see if the other person is as interesting to you as vice versa? :) - Adam Lasnik
I use the same criteria to determine whom I follow on both FriendFeed and Twitter; if the feed is in English, and looks interesting, I'll follow. Regarding followers, I get the emails and go from there. However, this is time-consuming even with my few new followers. - Ontario Emperor via fftogo
Everybody that subscribes to me gets a link in a folder on my bookmarks toolbar. When I've caught up with my main feed, I open all those links in tabs and read them at my leisure. It works better for me than having an unwieldy number of subscriptions in my main feed. - Slippy Lane
They should definitely build this, as well as a simple way to review the list and subscribe manually. AND a way to 'remind' your actual friends that you've subscribed to that you are there too! - Jeremy Toeman
Ooh, I just thought - If we could add feeds to rooms, we could create our own "subscribed to me" rooms, wherein we would see the posts of our followers and their friends. - Slippy Lane
Someone ought to be able to whip up a bookmarklet or greasemonkey script to handle this for you... - Tanath
update - we can now add feeds to rooms, and slippy pointlessly bumps an old post. - Slippy Lane
On my monitor, the top one is better. Curious to know which wins. - Chris Brogan
It appears the top one is brighter and more vivid, but also more washed out. Check the details on the right-hand building.. you can't see the low-contrast pattern on the top photo. - J. Phil
Sometimes I share my own posts if I think it's going to be helpful to others. Is that cool? No? - Chris Brogan
Nothing wrong with it, in my opinion. The only thing that gets on my nerves a little is people who cross-post their own articles across half a dozen services, all scraped by friendfeed. Two references to an article seems sensible, though - someone might miss the first one! :-) - Slippy Lane
Yep. I've had two days now on FF exclusively and I occasionally poke my head back into Twitter to see if it's up. Another day or two of this and who knows... - Kevin Cearns
Yeah, it's hard to believe they are having this many problems. I'm a developer and I konw it's tough sometimes... but seriiously figure something out here since they have a great opportunity... - Adrian Nadeau
LOL - Chris is frustrated like the rest of us!! twitter outages are sooo annoyingly old hat it is become the laughing stock of all social media sites...sad! - Susan Beebe
Yeah, me too re twitter not working. I'm liking friendfeed more and more too. It works. - jjprojects
Funny how we're all here, though, eh? I mean, really. Nuts. - Chris Brogan
I only *really* like FriendFeed when Twitter *really* isn't working. - Ryan MF
Entirely f-ing sick of it. Went to my first tweet-up last night, and was really stoked to get up this morning and play/talk/interact/etc. -- FAIL :| - Brad McCrorey
explain to me how Twitter is better that FF on any dimension. - ron k jeffries
Hi I'm Peter and I am a twitter Addict - I have not been on twitter for the day. Oh Lord, grant me the serenity to know that twitter is undependable and give me the strength to find other platforms to sustain my daily life one day at a time !! - Peter Dawson
Just as we need a backup but not identical laptop, we need a backup, but not identical Twitter. - Attila Csordas
I think I have to eat crow, I said FF couldn't possibly be a Twitter killer...but this is ridiculous, and I'm starting to see that is very realistic that we all end up on FF and just post here - Jennifer Van Grove via twhirl
I need that link for the importer from twitter to friendfeed - Brad McCrorey
ohhh... there's an importer for twitter to friendfeed? yes please.. - Sean McDonald via
