Bloggers should be aware that the image/link combination is done via an iframe and will NOT appear in RSS feeds. More details here http://andybeard.eu/2609...
- Chris Myles
I looked at at least two pages of every user who posted. I just started learning, so I bookmarked about 20 pages that I'll be coming back to. This was nice, thanks!
- Ryan Massie
http://www.google.com/reader... I'm glad you asked this right now. I just realized that several people are following me and I didn't even know it. I hope it hasn't been this way for long!
- Michael Fidler
Just noticed that Reader now allows grouping of people you follow! Wondering: is Reader going to become a competitor (instead of complement) to FriendFeed?
- Chris Rogers
@rogersdc / Chris, Google Reader is obviously been trying to become more social, but I'd really like to see FF come out with a bookmarklet that makes sub'ing RSS feeds to FF easier/faster. Right now it's a manual process involving either a new Group/Room or Imaginary Friend. Should be 2 clicks tops.. Also see: http://friendfeed.com/alexsch...
- Alex Schleber
Here is mine : http://www.google.fr/reader.... I share (mainly on French sites and blogs) about libraries, literature and arts, human and social sciences, photography :-)
- Nadine Pestourie
LOL here we go again :o) http://www.google.com/reader... I share a lot of blogs and funny stuff that I read, it's neat how I can share and it gets posted all over by friendfeed.
- David Gross
http://www.google.com/reader... - I share items about productivity, gaming, movies, and misc. stuff from the Google "cool" via Recommendations feed. Thanks Kol for starting this thread because I've been trying to cut down on the number of feeds I subscribe to and instead just follow interesting people.
- Dusty Edenfield
Svartling: good point about adding people to groups. I noticed I couldn't comment on items that were shared by some users.
- Dusty Edenfield
I've (we) written a lot of more good tips on how to use Google Reader in Google Reader comments. It's too bad we don't have permalinks in Greader so we can share our notes and comments. Otherwise I could have posted a link here. Here are some on friendfeed: http://friendfeed.com/svartli...
- Svartling
The conversation is really blowing up (in a good way) on Reader. The most important reminder currently is to set up groups and allow commenting. That is NOT on by default!
- Vince DeGeorge
Thank you all. I think I have subscribed you all now (except those feed in languages I don't understand) Here is mine again: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Svartling
I've started to follow a few of the people here but there's quite a few, so will take me a while :) - My currently fairly bare feed is: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Roy Herrod
There are a few entries here you might like to read to help you. This one: http://ff.im/6CkQj explains about adding people to groups to allow them to comment and why some don't stay in groups. In this one: http://ff.im/6F9pQ I suggest a way to track a large number of shared items using PostRank. This: http://ff.im/6Ci0P and this: http://ff.im/6AM35 has a few tips on using GReader as a lifestreaming service. And this: http://ff.im/6EMT1 gives a few examples of GReader bundles.
- Kol Tregaskes
Those of you above whom I already follow on FF/Twitter/etc., I've subscribed to your feeds. As for the rest of you: if you follow me on GReader, I'll follow you back.
- Dennis Jernberg
I'm sharing some pages now, including a few of my past blog entries.
- Dennis Jernberg
Because I have issues with data duplication, I have merged this list with the google reader shares room feeds. You can view the Google spreadsheet at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc...
- Rob Diana
There are a bunch of shared feeds that I could not resolve the Google username for because they did not have a named profile set up.
- Rob Diana
tristanhambling, your link didn't work. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
It would be really handy to have all these shared feeds as an opml file. Has anyone added everyone? Care to export an opml of the shared feeds?
- Paul Jacobson
I'm http://www.google.com/reader... Not really comfortable with the custom URL though since it can only be your gmail username. Makes it really easy for spamspiders I think.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Tobias, possibly but not had any problems myself though Gmail has the best spam filters around so I probably not noticed. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... mostly webdev, photography news, music, world news which i get interested. plus half of them may be article in Japanese. sorry. :-p
- browneyes
http://www.google.com/reader... - OK I'm in. Late as always. Will post my thoughts, feedback and pleading requests for help over in Google Reader so please follow me over there. Eat your own dog food and all that.
- Andy C
MF/Kol = I live in Kingston on Thames. It's OK apart from the traffic (continually gridlocked) and the shops (girls just lurve them). Handy for getting into London both airports and out to the Thames Valley for work type things. Richmond Park and the river in walking distance is great too.
- Andy C
Andy, Richmond Park and the others around there are the appeal really. Good place to go photographing and cycling while being very close to London I think.
- Kol Tregaskes
Teddington (across the river from Kingston Upon Thames, is where I think I'd like to live. Just 'cos it's cheaper than everywhere else around it. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol many years ago, we made the mistake of asking an estate agent in Surbiton whether it was any cheaper than Kingston. She replied 'No - of course not. We are on the fast line to Waterloo' and looked at us as if we were dog excrement.
- Andy C
I've checked rental prices in the area several times over the last 2 years and Teddington is definitely cheaper. I'm not buying, no way I can afford that. ;-) All a pip-dream anyway, need a steady job and I've not had that for a while. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
anyone use google reader on windows mobile professional? I cant seem to get it to work and when I try to go to the mobile site it takes me to the regular site.
- David Gross
Nope, sorry can't help you there, David.
- Kol Tregaskes
Not that I know of but I've not used Posterous for ages now.
- Kol Tregaskes
You can display different template content based on "page type".. individual post vs Search or tag vs Main page. Currently Widgets must be added directly to the template.
- Chris Myles
Let's say you have a Facebook like operation - you have 300 million users. You run a very very good web site and 99.9% of the people are thrilled. Only .1% need help each month. That's 300,000 people a month. 30 days a month that's 10,000 people a day that think they deserve an email.
Instead of slamming Facebook for not allowing access, think of the avalanche of email. If it's your company how do YOU pay the people to respond? How do you organize that army of people? With bosses? Now you have to pay them too.
- Ibrahim OZTURKCAN
I would like to email a developer too - I can't even imagine running a place this big. I have no suggestions for them on how to give more personlized customer service. I look forward to hearing yours.
- Ibrahim OZTURKCAN
10,000 people per day * 7 minutes each = 70,000 minutes PER DAY / 14400 = 5 emails PER MINUTE, this equates to a staff of about 20-25 people when dividing by 3 shifts. Assume an average total annual cost per employees of $80k (includes benefits, salary, taxes, etc) = $2,000,000/yr
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Do you want to pay for that? (likely by viewing more, stupider, ads)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I certainly don't want email based support (not search-able) but facebook (and google) HAVE to support customers better than they currently are!! Considering facebook has over 1000 employees I think dedicating 2% directly to customer support is NOT unreasonable. Software updates and algorithms don't necessarily make happier customers, that takes a dedicated team. Support doesn't scale...
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- Chris Myles
yes it is. but facebook is just a sample. i think they only support for advertisers. others (users) are have to use like you said, search-able help page. @rob, i wont pay $1,3k/mo for one employee (total 60). i dont know urs but there are hundreds of people thrilling for $500/mo in our country. $80k is too high for an average.
- Ibrahim OZTURKCAN
after creating a new ticket, ebay cs replies over 5 days later.
- Ibrahim OZTURKCAN
$500/mo doesn't meet the minimum wage requirements in the US. A full time worker earns no less than about $1100/mo (before taxes). Most support engineers earn more in the range of 3500-6000/mo..With some lower end in the 1200-2000/mo.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
best would be to hire/train support specialists and pay them per email they respond. Also you can pay more if the customer/user is satisfied. This way, all you need is to control the level of service. In theory every support staff will try to respond as much as she can to get more money. With a dispatching system (machine learning in it) the dispatcher assigns similar support inquiries...
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- aslan ozcakir
#1 Rule Of Success: Don't create features / products you can't afford to service
- Johnny Worthington
I use vimeo's embed codes for my WP video blog. I also use FF. when i add my blog rss to friendfeed my videos not showing up on my friendfeed page. is there any solution to show my vimeos videos on friendfeed by my wp rss? i realy realy need this because i want to collect comments from friendfeed to my blog. thank you... #wordpress#rss#vimeo
It doesn't look like wordpress puts media elements in your feed. You could find a utility that adds the media elements .. (I'm not sure if feedbuster handles video). Worst case you could add a hidden image that ends up in feed.
- Chris Myles
i tried feedbuster and mrss; no luck :/ thanks Chris..
- Cagatay Akturk
@Chris by the way, how can i add hidden image to my blog post?
- Cagatay Akturk
add style="display:none" to the img block!! (maybe that's what sewwimsizbilgin wrote).
- Chris Myles
RSS'e media etiketini ekleyen pluginler vardı. Chris yazmış zaten ama.
- F. Batuhan Icoz
No worries.. Are you in Turkey? We ended up there while we were sailing around the world. We lived in Finike and our son was born in Antalya. Spent over a year there and loved it!!
- Chris Myles
:) yes i live in Istanbul. And your story is lovely :)
- Cagatay Akturk
I use vimeo's embed codes for my WP video blog. I also use FF. when i add my blog rss to friendfeed my videos not showing up on my friendfeed page. is there any solution to show my vimeos videos on friendfeed by my wp rss? i realy realy need this because i want to collect comments from friendfeed to my blog. thank you...
I don't know; I'm hoping someone else does, though. MediaRSS pulls in pictures fine, but it's never pulled in video for me, either.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
can i add hidden images to my post? maybe MediaRSS pulls that images?
- Cagatay Akturk
You should be able to add a hidden image (display:none).. If it doesn't pull them in feedbuster will!!
- Chris Myles
I talk a bit about JSON formatted search in that thread, in particular the JSONC syntax for rich data feeds. My hope is that early in 2010 we'll have enough of a consensus around a JSON format to document it in the OpenSearch spec and start paving the cowpaths.
- DeWitt Clinton
The two places I'm going to focus on in the near term for OpenSearch support are Google Custom Search and the Ajax APIs. The first is just a matter of sitting down and getting it done. The second is a matter of making sure our JSON data formats are consistent enough to do it well across multiple products and with some alignment with third-party APIs.
- DeWitt Clinton
Is JSONC in anything beyond Picasa yet? I really like the idea
- Kevin Marks
My opinion: I think FriendFeed rooms make excellent real-time collaboration tools
- Jesse Stay
I'm having issues with the unorganized mess that is Wave, even in a collaboration setting. With a few more tools to enable better sharing (they're close), I think FriendFeed could accomplish what Wave is doing in a much more organized and better way.
- Jesse Stay
FriendFeed would also need to standardize, and open source the entire platform (beyond just Tornado)
- Jesse Stay
wave could be used as the backend for the next version of friendfeed - it allows for threads, edits, attachments - all distributed
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Bear, good point - is it necessary though? Could FriendFeed just open source its existing technology and enable a protocol to standardize it all?
- Jesse Stay
IMO Wave is a bit too much. I like how organized FriendFeed is - I'm about to encourage the Waves I'm on to move over to rooms over here because it's much easier to track the conversation and collaboration over here.
- Jesse Stay
i'm just saying that the document that is the core of each wave and it's method of storing changes *could* be used to form the threaded conversation behind each post in friendfeed. that's the part of FF that they haven't opensourced - the data model.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Jesse, I use wave at work for my 5 person team... It has cut intraoffice email by 90%.
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
I agree. However I think they would be just as good just open sourcing what they already have rather than implementing completely new technology to power it all. FriendFeed already has a threaded conversation model - they just need to open source it and they'd have the same thing as Wave.
- Jesse Stay
Johnny, how do you like it as compared to just using a private FriendFeed room?
- Jesse Stay
BTW, I agree it's better than e-mail. So is IRC in some contexts ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Um, as far as I can tell from people who know about these things, federation of shared real-time data across servers is not a "they can just do it" level of difficulty.
- Chieze Okoye
Jesse... I like it cause we deal with a lot of changing PDFs and images etc. FriendFeed is good but I was able to pitch a Google product to my boss better.
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Johnny, the convincing towards adoption is a biggie, I understand. I'm hoping Facebook decides to push FriendFeed more in the future, and that they see this. With that, I think more people and businesses will have trust over it as a collaboration tool
- Jesse Stay
Well that leaves me out since nobody ever talks to me on the Wave.
- Judy Jones
friendfeed is more accessible from a variety of devices, I think it is more intuitive, wave has a much bigger learning curve
- Robert Higgins
Big difference is that you can't embed things like maps etc or have bots do cleanup/translation/etc - but if it's just text, links, images etc (the stuff that ff does do) and you're looking for just conversation/collaboration/brainstorming then friendfeed is great ... friendfeed is to wave as twitter is to friendfeed
- Chris Heath
Chris, Good analogy. I don't think facebook needs most the advanced functions of wave but the friendfeed features would certainly improve sharing and interaction within Facebook. For business collaboration the embeddable objects and bots of wave make it far better than a private FF group.
- Chris Myles
I totally agree Chris... I do agree with Jesse's other guess (at least I think it was Jesse) that FF is the Facebook R&D playground for new features (like the OAuth thing that just happened) -- or at least that would be a good idea for Facebook to use FF in that fashion
- Chris Heath
I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around this one. A thought provoking and interesting idea.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Chris.. Hopefully R&D will include *easier ways* to share more content IF facebook actually wants data to search (especially for pages). Adding an RSS feed is horrible if your content includes ANY embeds/iframes.. So Page Notes are out (unless you just add a feedburner summary). I can add apps or flash (to improve my page) but then what DATA is available for facebook to search?
- Chris Myles
I wanted to use WAVE for fiction writing collaboration with another couple authors but I'm not finding it intutive certainly not as simple as a wiki would be. I'm not Mr Tech so that could be barrier but these are not functions that either ff or twitter can really replicate so I do wish I got got wave
- WarLord
WarLord have you tried Google Docs for collaboration? You could back it up with a private FF group for side discussions.. You could probably even load the document change feed into the group for discussion (although I just checked and that feature seems to have disappeared !?!?!).
- Chris Myles
One thing that I'm missing from FriendFeed for it to be Wave-like are gadgets. Like a certain conference gadget(shameless plug). IMHO gadgets are the most powerful piece of the Wave puzzle. FriendFeed groups would be killer for Wave, the stuff you can do with Groupy bot is kinda cluttered and disorienting.
- James Williams
I've actually been looking at Etherpad lately as a way to possibly make a Wave-lite experience in hopes of getting people to graduate to Wave.
- James Williams
Chris thats a good thought I had some small stuff on Google Docs but that plus FF group might be a soft way to get everybody moving then if we move to wave as we get comfortable...
- WarLord
James, didn't Google just buy Etherpad?
- Chieze Okoye
Note that MediaRSS images don't show up in the iPhone version of FriendFeed (http://www.friendfeed.com/iphone...), so this hole doesn't apply to that version, just the regular version.
- Stephen Mack
Feature. Tweetmeme's image is no more out of place here than it is on your blog.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Bruce, that's fine, but I'd love for FriendFeed to say that. Otherwise I'd love to see them allow us to ignore the tweetmeme button.
- Jesse Stay
How would your blog communicate that certain images should be ignored other than omitting them from the Media RSS feed?
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Bruce, FriendFeed can ignore any image they like. It's their service.
- Jesse Stay
I don't want FriendFeed to decide which images to include. I want to decide what images to include. It's my feed. (I'm not joking or being contrary. It works the way I think it should work.)
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Yes, but you could decide which images FriendFeed blocks on FriendFeed. Personally, I don't want web bugs in my stream - I think they should kill them. It opens up for some interesting uses of the site, but I think it's dangerous.
- Jesse Stay
That would work until you clicked through to the blog post. The problem has to be solved at the browser end.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
I don't mind the Tweetmeme button on my blog. I mind it on FriendFeed. That's beside the point though - the point is web bugs can be embedded by anyone in a post to FriendFeed, posting cookies, tracking IPs, and possibly more. If that's what FriendFeed wants I'm fine with it - it seems like an issue though.
- Jesse Stay
I'm sure it was a conscious decision. They know how to make their own thumbnails.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Jesse: I don't think there is any security hole here. Certainly any external pieces of media can track you but it can't do anything serious like, for example, access FriendFeed cookies. Disabling third-party cookies solves your problem of being tracked across the web.
- Benjamin Golub
The Tweetmeme plugin for wordpress allows you to put the image at the bottom of your RSS posts. I keep it at the top on the actual blog and at the bottom for RSS so I can avoid this problem.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Isn't this problem on you, the content publisher's side? You told FriendFeed to read a mediaRSS-enabled feed that pointed to images that you don't control. You introduced the ostensible third-party tracking on your own site, embedded that tracking into your feed, and had FriendFeed import the feed. I'd rather have FriendFeed import the feed as accurately as possible and have you remove...
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- Mark Trapp
Mark, no, that problem is FriendFeed's. If they don't want 3rd-party images that can dynamically produce content, set cookies, etc. on their users' computers they need to stop that practice. It doesn't sound like they want that though, so it sounds like it's no one's problem in that case. I was just raising what I thought was an issue. If they don't think it's an issue then I guess it's fair game.
- Jesse Stay
Embedding offsite images from RSS feeds is not unusual -- for example, Google Reader does the same. As others have mentioned, if this is a concern for you, there are browser config options that will address it across all sites.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, thanks - that's fine. I just wanted to be sure the FriendFeed team was okay with it. Now to come up with some cool technologies that utilize that. :-)
- Jesse Stay
it is important for publishers and users to be aware of these technical implications. this is a good feature for some purposes, and hadn't been apparent to me before, thanks for pointing it out
- Mike Chelen
iit's a moot point since there aren't any friendfeed users any more
- SuezanneC Baskerville
About that whole idea of disallowing 3rd party images in friendfeed posts: That might make it impossible for some people to have any images displaying with their posts if their images are not hosted on the same domain as their blog, which would be the case with Blogger's *.blogspot.com blogs. Plus, even if you whitelist the domains Google uses for Blogger image hosting, it still creates...
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- April Russo (app103)
Personally I wish more sites would come up with dynamic images that can be passed around via feeds (and email, facebook). The friendfeed image embed works great and gives people a snapshot of dynamic content without having to click through just to find out nothing has changed. I'm not sure what facebook's safe_image.php does but you can see the latest retweet counts in your facebook notes (http://www.facebook.com/note...) but not your media elements!!
- Chris Myles
April.. I use flickr with blogger (they have a better integration with blogger than picasa for single images with captions etc). The sad thing is Blogger doesn't even include media elements for non-picasa images..including you-tube videos etc. It makes it hard to generate enticing feed summaries with thumbnails (via custom scripts, friendfeed, facebook).
- Chris Myles
For a long time, since before you could upload pics to Blogger, I used a folder on my software site to hold all the blog images I used on my personal blog. Everything was handled through WLW, from creating thumbnails, watermarking, and uploading it all. When I changed hosting, I had to start using the integration with Picasa Web through WLW to do it because WLW doesn't support FTPES,...
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- April Russo (app103)
"Using an autonomous mini-helicopter, an MIT team stunned the Association for Unmanned Vehicles International by solving one of its notoriously tough challenges on the first try."
- Bruce Lewis
from Bookmarklet
You gotta love _really_ smart people!!
- Chris Myles
Just one note if he is the one with the http://twitter.com/johnwor... with no photo, he has no basis of understanding and doesn't even know how to utilize it, much less pass judgement. If he isn't and has an account that was utilized then it's more relevant. So many people want to be social media experts and claim they are and yet they lack the experience or understanding. So it's irrelevant, though his face to face less than 20% of his Facebook Friends use Twitter.
- James Stratford
Hrm. That kinda illustrates the whole point, James. Friendfeed is the perfect example. So many posts have been written about it by people that hadn't a clue. Others saw these sources as authorities on the subject and believed whatever was said. Experience and understanding is relative. Johnny is spot on here :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
utter utter nonsense Johnny you're out of touch
- Thomas Power
...liked the rant on the strength of this gem alone: "...[m]y space may be a bath tub in a sea of fact..." a clever turn of phrase, and an unintended diss of MySpace as well. kill two birds. +1^100
- .LAG liked that
I agree with Johnny. The mere cost of generating enough followers and building yourself up to be a 'trust agent' a la Chris Broggan far exceeds any business value that can be derived. Here is the test -- how many tweets do you actually read? I'll bet you'll say those on your preferred lists, perhaps 20 people. The other tens of thousands go unheard. Now scale that. Twitter is dead as a social and especially business social medium.
- Doug Wolfgram
James, two things... I have a photo (I photoshopped the FriendFeed DoubleFs inside the Twitter no photo avatar) and I have over 30 saved searchs on all the topics I want to read about. I use Twitter very well, I just don't go around telling everyone just how shit hot I am at it...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Rock on Johnny.. rock on!! and I agree.. 95% of my friends are on facebook and could care less about twitter. That doesn't mean I don't find some value.. but it's awkward and difficult to explain the value to non believers.. facebook doesn't require an explanation or a value sell!!
- Chris Myles
I stood up in front of an audience of 1,000 tech geeks and developers 2 months ago and had the exact same response.
- Jesse Stay
I find it funny that James even found this post on FriendFeed, since he doesn't seem to spend a lot of time here (has a lot of subscribers though, which is interesting). I understand the sentiment of being sick of self-proclaimed social media experts, but also entertained that he bashes Johnny of all people. Johnny may not be a social media expert but that's mainly because he just finds...
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
Twitter's not dead, considering it's now appearing at the top of Google search results. Considering the 3rd party app store getting a new round of funding. Considering it's a serious target for hackers. I don't particularly care for Twitter myself, but it's very much alive.
- Raphael, Raphael
Raphael, before that, FriendFeed got top billing in Google... Things change
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
I tried to "go google" and they left me hanging.. on multiple occasions, with multiple products and APIs. If I can't depend on Google support then I can't add them to my critical path. Google you need to dogfood your own support and invest in your customer support. When customers get fed up and leave to other platforms, you might not get the ad revenue!!
- Chris Myles
I agree and was rather surprised that the Blogger product manager thought it was "not at all hard for the blogger to insert a link (or image) independently of the iframe".. Most Blogger users won't even know it IS an issue and adding it cleanly requires the HTML editor and an extra div with display set to none. Doesn't seem very push button to me (or the author). Glad I switched to posterous..plus they have great support for only four people!!
- Chris Myles
The worst part is I am trying to help develop solutions based on their products.. In some cases six months to a year go by without any Google feedback. A couple of cases have gone for two years and one is approaching it's third anniversary in 3 days. WTF?
- Chris Myles
FriendFeed will now update your Facebook status when you update your FriendFeed status (or statuses pulled into FriendFeed from other networks like Twitter)! - http://www.facebook.com/apps...
There seem to be no official news so I've posted this as I've just found it on Facebook. Is this a good or bad thing? If I didn't want this but still wanted FB to import my FF posts what would I do? Basically I'm after a filter of what is imported from FriendFeed to FB. I'd like to filter out @replies and certain services. I don't want GReader posts being imported from FF to FB, can I filter these without affecting FF or GReader?
- Kol Tregaskes
i've been doing this from my FF settings for a awhile.
- Thom Kennon
It's done this for a while. Back 6 months ago or so, the FF app for facebook was really buggy and didn't work for me anymore. Wonder if they ever fixed it.
- Bill Kinney
No, it's been importing the status updates but they've not been turned into FB status updates. That is the difference. Bill, works fine see here: http://www.facebook.com/koltreg...
- Kol Tregaskes
similar to how Twitter has worked then? that's cool. i turned that off recently, as my family kept complaining that i was too noisy. i could only imagine if I sent FF there.
- Bill Kinney
Actually it appears to be a half-worked job. The imported status updates from Twitter via FF in FB still have the FF icon and it seems that is putting people off. The imports need to be turned into proper native FB updates. These imported updates could also be in people's filters.
- Kol Tregaskes
Do. Not. Want.... I stopped Twitter updating my FB status because my FB friends complained I was making their streams too noisy. I want to cross-post my FF stream into my FB stream, but now there doesn't seem to be a way to prevent FF from making a status updates without disabling the whole app...
- Andrew Terry
yeah, i gave up on that app a while back. native facebook can pull some things like Youtube likes, flickr, etc. It's slow to update but it works.
- Bill Kinney
I'd rather continue to syndicate into FB from here using the feed. I like the idea that each one is a little advertising link for my FB peeps to click and find out about Friendfeed,
- Thom Kennon
Michael, anything that is a status update, such as Twitter and Gtalk. if you post a tweet and it comes into FF it will then go into FB as a 'FB status update' but it's not a native FB entry and still had the FF icon which is annoying. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol: the FriendFeed icon is there because the story (or status update) was created via the FriendFeed application. There is no way for us or you to remove that icon. It is for all intents and purposes a "native" FB entry
- Benjamin Golub
I love that the friendFeed team is still working on updates. Any chance you can make it on a "per-update" basis though? For instance, I don't like Twitter going to Facebook, but I may not mind others. Or, at a minimum, I'd love to check a box on my Friendfeed status and have it go to Facebook instead of Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
I've noticed one slight difference between application posts and native (link) posts.. The "view in applicationx" replaces the share button, which makes sharing an application posted link a multi-step process!!
- Chris Myles
Benjamin, so will these updates appear on the status updates filter: http://www.facebook.com/home...? I can't see any atm. Also, I'm still after filtering out each service from FriendFeed in FB, e.g. Google Reader, etc. and also @replies. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Benjamin, yeah already have that filter. This is what I mean but it not being a true FB status update. If people filter on status updates they won't see the imported FF updates.
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks for all comments! Yes, I definitely do not like the same things, posted simultaneously, from 1 person, to all accounts. May be I am ancient,hm :(
- Slavomira Vladimirova
My facebook people and my friendfeed people get completely different input from me. Totally different audiences.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
m9m .. I agree!! My friends would be overwhelmed by my geekness!!
- Chris Myles
I wish this had an off switch, or at least would only pick things up with some hashtag.
- Christopher Granade
That would certainly help.. or by allowing you to share only a group feed so you can configure it automatically based on services and via the bookmarklet/status TO: values. (i.e. cmyles-facebook).
- Chris Myles
Nice. Now I have enough way to update Facebook. I already use TweetDeck Ping.fm and selective tweets from Twitter. Now I can add this to my list. LOL
- Patrick
from twhirl
FB ha comprado FF/ FB bought FF / FB a acheté FF alors....
- ladeloslibros
i dont see that option.. it updates the facebook stream not your status... i have friendfeed posts in my stream but my status still says twitter...
- Jay M
Damn .. I love Saabs. I owned a 1972 model once, it could out drive most 4wd in the snow too. Even had heated seats!! Bummer.. anyone want to go 50/50 on a car company?
- Chris Myles
Jesse I've put together a couple of facebook pages, focusing more on integration than flash content. I ran into a couple of VERY basic issues (like change page owner etc) that make pages *appear* to be non-consultant friendly (see http://mylescrew.posterous.com/faceboo...). How do you build a page from the ground up and "transfer it" as a traditional consultant would? just wondering
- Chris Myles
Chris, you can add as many admins as possible. They can either add you as the original owner of the Page, or you can also set the Page up under a company name, having the company administer and own the Page rather than an actual person.
- Jesse Stay
It's only the original owner of the Page that you can't change.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse Thanks for the notes.. The last bit is the part that seems Consultant unfriendly.. I don't want to own it, I want to develop it and transfer it as a service. Unless something has changed recently, you CAN'T set it up as a company name, it has to be owned by a person (at least according to all of facebook's documentation http://www.facebook.com/help...). Also being unable to change a page type makes it critical to get it right in the first place and most people don't set it up correctly.
- Chris Myles
Maybe I'm being anal but it's the following (repeated multiple times) that got my attention. "Maintaining multiple accounts, regardless of the purpose, is a violation of Facebook’s Terms of Use. If you already have a personal account, then we cannot allow you to create business accounts for any reason. You can manage all the Pages and Socials Ads that you create on your personal account."
- Chris Myles
I just tried setting up a business account and a page.. I couldn't successfully add any Admins until I published the page !?!? Strange.. I'll make it work but it doesn't seem right. I guess I need to setup a Google gmail account so that I can then transfer "ownership".. I'm not the only one http://www.facebook.com/topic..... I think the legal reason on the page 5 should get _someones_ attention!!
- Chris Myles
Right now the best way is to set it up as a business account - that's the only way, unless you already have someone to deliver it to, in which case you'll want to have them set it up and hand over to you to manage.
- Jesse Stay
I do know Pages are a big focus for Facebook right now and they're aware of the problems. Hopefully that changes soon.
- Jesse Stay
Cool.. good to know. Thanks again for taking the time to respond, it really does help. They should put you on the "preferred" list.
- Chris Myles
Thanks Chris - there are talks about it, so hopefully soon :-)
- Jesse Stay
I get the same thing.. I clicked ok again and now just get my links appearing with no status updates. How do I get a status feed from Facebook?
- Chris Myles
Google Reader is seriously broken - it shares other items when I click share on one item. It shows other people's avatar instead of mine. Scoble's argument of switching entirely to Twitter or FriendFeed is beginning to be more convincing to me now. It's been this way for months now and no changes!
when I click on "all items", this error message appears: You don't have permission to view this feed!!!
- Zahra HB
And let me guess .. support hasn't been very helpful or responsive!!
- Chris Myles
Chris, look above. You can see a near-immediate response from Mihai Parparita, who works at Google Reader. That looks helpful and responsive to me. Kudos.
- Louis Gray
Louis: +1 Mihai, Jenna and the rest of the Google Reader team are amazingly responsive!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Hmm They may be here but I've had multiple requests (15) into their OFFICIAL HELP GROUP for over a year.. No response or feedback. I guess I must be in the wrong place!!
- Chris Myles
Works fine for me. I've never seen this happen.
- Otto
Louis, how in the world could this be user error? I hit shift-D on one article, and another article pops up. Am I doing it wrong? In addition, my avatar is someone else's. I can show screenshots of that as well if I need to. And no - feedly is not the answer - that proves that Google Reader is broken.
- Jesse Stay
Try deleting your cache and google cookies. Then close/re-start your browser and re-login. Might fix it.
- AJ Batac
Jesse. If you add a note and share, do you know if the article is shared correctly as you? Or do you get a share error or no error but the article does not get shared? Is it always the avatar of the same other person or do you get a random set?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I've never come across that issue with Reader but it wouldn't surprise me. I have had problems with feeds not updating like they should. Feedly is great IMO only if you have less than 100 feeds. Any more than that and the organization becomes disorganized, if that makes sense.
- Jason Williams
Edwin, the avatar seems to change randomly - it will be one for awhile, and then it will change. Shares always get shared as me, but will be shared as the wrong article (I've only reproduced this with notes). I've mentioned this before but no one responded. Is there an equivalent to the FriendFeed Feedback room for Google Reader?
- Jesse Stay
I see. So there are really two problems: a more cosmetic showing the wrong avatar and a more problematic poping up the wrong article. Are you able to consistently reproduce it?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin, my initial description talks about both
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: since we suspect the share-with-note issue is browser-specific, we still need to know what browser you're seeing this with. As for the wrong avatar showing up, we've seen this happen when your contacts (accessible at google.com/contacts) have multiple conflicting email addresses (e.g. yours shows up in another contact's, or vice-versa).
- Mihai Parparita
Mihai, thanks - this is the first time I've seen the Google Reader team respond to an issue I've had like this. I'll test it in other browsers and get back to you on what browsers are affected.
- Jesse Stay
Mihai, also, regarding the avatar issue and contacts, wouldn't that be a bug? I hope it's not a feature. I should be able to say "this is my avatar" and have that stick.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, what browser are you seeing this in right now? You haven't answered that question.
- Louis Gray
Stunning.. you really captured the feel!! Wasn't the ladder (on Curiosity) rusted out too? and I thought we were bad with 25,000 photos in 5.5 years.
- Chris Myles
(28 photos) Excerpt: "In 1906 a Norwegian-Chilean whaling company set up a whaling station in the small bay just past Neptune's Bellows. This bay became known as Whaler's Bay. During the Great Depression however the whaling base was abandoned due the drop in oil demand and oil prices, increased oil drilling, new advancements in processing factories and other factors. Since it wasn't cost effective to bring supplies back to the mainland, most of the hardware, the boilers, and even the wooden dinghies were left behind." Click through to see the rest!
- Kevin Fox
Stephen, I'm glad you missed them.... or rather I'm glad you like them enough to miss them. They are back at least for a little while. There isn't a lot more to cover. But I think there are at least 6 more posts, maybe 7. They will be slow over the holidays but I think we will get at least the second half of this one out before xmas!! :)
- Rachel Lea Fox