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Introducing the FriendFeed Team - http://bub.blicio.us/1111126...
'Like' robot (frɐnc), rowlikeagirl, Ken & Kiyomi and 39 other people liked this
hey, where are louis gray and Scoble? :) kidding:)
- Christian Anderson
I helped push them into the corner, does that count, Christian? :)
- Louis Gray
hahaha :)
- Christian Anderson
I LOLed when I saw you in the next picture on Brian's post.
- Christian Anderson
Just what we figured: A bunch of geeks and a hot chick. (runs screaming 'Bear, Bear, Bear'...............)
- Molly
Why is the guy on the right playing with a toy guitar?
- Gilbert Harding
So which one of them is Kol again? ;)
- CAJ, somewhere else
Tudor has my green hands. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I never ceased to be amazed by how so much is done by so few. Everyone in that picture rocks. I'll even give Camilla a wee fistbump.
- CAJ, somewhere else
Seriously, I agree, Alan.
- Molly
Bump for the good times.
- Mark Krynsky
ahh memories
- (jeff)isageek
Family Togetherness Time
Kimitake, Johnny Worthington, M. Serdar Kuzuloglu and 106 other people liked this
Look at them sleeping. So daggone cute!
- Hutch Carpenter
Looks like Dad got a bit of schwag, too... :)
- Mark Dykeman
awesome!
- Thomas Hawk
Where are the FF onesies?! :-)
- JA Castillo
The FF onesies are way too big. My "biggest" kid is five pounds. When these guys get 3-6 months, let the schwag wagon roll.
- Louis Gray
FFTwins FTW!
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Link bait! :)
- Andrew Baron
@Louis you are such a product pimp ROFLMAO .. god love ya and yer family :)
- Steven Hodson
awwwww
- Michelle Trent
Do they have FF accounts yet?
- Johnny Worthington
aww gorgeous :) and the babies too!
- Allison
LOL that is alll kinds of win
- Mona Nomura
I've always thought it's important to establish brand awareness early on. Good job ;-)
- Jonathon
So, what are their domains and RSS feeds? I need to add them as imaginary friends for now.
- Rob Diana
Peace. That's the word that comes to my mind :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
good thing they are always this happy. right!
- Tim Connors
I want that shirt!
- James Hull
totally got a cool idea for new schwag... two items: for new Moms, a friend feed shirt with slots for easy feeding of infants... and for new Pops like Louis, nipple with bottle attachment inserts with one nipple coming out of the first f and the second nipple coming out of the second d... saweet!
- Rob Reed
FF schwag and twins! best picture of the day!
- Sarah Perez
Cute as a button. Akiva you crack me up. :)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
from fftogo
@Rob Reed: Awesome!
- April Buchheit
Kinda wished I had some FF schwag to wear with the newborn on the way.
- Randy Hall
The first marriage on FF cannot compete with this.
- Russellreno
Congratz.
- Bill Bittner
Mega awesome ;) Congratulations to you and your family, like the Friendfeed t-shirt ;)
- Mario Olckers
Tiny... little... eentsy... lumps of yum. There, my estrogen has officially shown itself.
- Carla Thompson
No way - they have FF onesies??? How do I get my hands on one of those?
- Jesse Stay
The Gray family Babies!!!! Sarah and Mathew look sooo cute in your arms! and sooo tiny my goodness!!... still LOL @ Rob's wacky comment..whoa!
- Susan Beebe
cool beans! workin on those biceps!
- TheMacMommy
from twhirl
So cute!
- marinka239
bring on the schwag, very cool pictures indeed
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Bump for good times
- Jesse Stay
Seesmic, Friendfeed and Twitter next to each other in a test version of Twhirl. Adding tons of Friendfeed experience improvements in there, Marco rocks.
Nicholas James, Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF, Wins Fern and 95 other people liked this
I love this version. And Seesmic in Twhirl is so addictive
- Loic Le Meur
nice improvements Loic!! bring it on!!
- Susan Beebe
can't wait - gimme more ;o)
- Marco Sascha Sven Hoppe
from twhirl
very interesting. The friendfeed integration looks way better than before. Will have to give this a look when it is released.
- Rob Diana
okay, so FF and Twitter are in the latest? but not Seemic correct?
- Lou Paglia
This might get me back into Twhirl.
- Akiva Moskovitz
and it has FF rooms support!
- Loic Le Meur
The question is when ?
- Gilles Meiers
from twhirl
wow, looks great. remind me http://twitku.com/ for a second there...
- Orli Yakuel
looks very cool. exactly what we need. but what about plurk ;)
- Phil Coyne
from twhirl
yes... when?
- Mike Wills
@LouPaglia - correct, Seesmic is not integrated with Twirl desktop app yet
- Susan Beebe
in a few days I think for the new FF integration. Seesmic comes next.
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
Super! When!??!
- Florin Grozea
from twhirl
looks like it might replace alert thingy as my RIA of choice
- Steve Lynch
from Alert Thingy
Great ! Thanks
- Gilles Meiers
from twhirl
integrate into one window, is all i ask, make it indisputably the best
- Ruben Llibre
none of them working in linux TOO BAD!
- Yassin Alvandi
Is twitter's api actually back up at 50 req/hr?
- Shawn Farner
The old Twhirl works for me in linux for me, it just won't remember my password.
- Daniel E. Renfer
from twhirl
Yes Marco does. Twhirl is becoming my info hub. And if Twitter dies, who cares I'm sure Pownce, Jaiku or whatever could be swapped in
- Tris Hussey
from twhirl
so is seesmic cool now?
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
How do we score the test ver? :)
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
You tease. Where do I download it?
- Rafe Needleman
Cannot wait, big Guy!
- ledretch
I want... When?
- highcenter
from twhirl
Can't wait!!
- Danish Khan
from twhirl
actually it will be pushed in an hour or two
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
Can't wait!
- Tris Hussey
from twhirl
Nice teasing. Do you have any release date or will you take the "it's done when it's done" side?
- Romain Péchard
from twhirl
I would love some "best practices" guide for how to get the most out of all that information that will be flooding in.
- Brendan Cosgrove
from twhirl
How do I add my Seesmic account into Twhirl 082? It's not showing up in the "accounts" list.
- Rafe Needleman
from twhirl
We should have a Twhirl + Seesmic preview in the very next days
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
wait, what exactly is the difference between Twhirl and Seesmic? I thought Seesmic was replacing Twhirl...
- Piero Ardizone
This looks awesome!
- Svartling
I think this what im looking for!
- Michael Scott
Wow nice work, I really like the improvements made :)
- Jeunelle Foster
awesome!
- barbarars
wow - one of the furthest back boomerang ff threads i've seen
- mike "glemak" dunn
nice!
- .LAG liked that
Wow, this is pretty old. I got excited for a second, thought Loic had seen the light and was starting to care about Twhirl again. NOPE.
- Shawn Farner
Hi there. We'd love to get Posterous added to Friendfeed. I know that it's just as easy to add an RSS feed, but you've added support for Tumblr, Skyrock, Livejournal and other blog platforms too. Not asking for special treatment. We're gonna do autopost integration on our end too, though. (coming soon) -Garry, cofounder, posterous.com
Antoine Bertier, Waldemar Schott, Tal Shafik and 68 other people liked this
I would love for FriendFeed to add Posterous.
- Lori Todd
There's a lot of good stuff that people are sending to Posterous - users include Mike Arrington and Guy Kawasaki. Surprised there's not support for it yet.
- Sachin Agarwal
Posterous support would be appreciated.
- Jeff Benner
Bring it.
- Judd6149
Yes, posterous support would be great. Love posterous!
- Hendro Wijaya
Yes please. Posterous would be a great addition.
- Bwana ☠
Posterous is awesome. Please add the support to the amazing Friendfeed
- Christopher Young
Posterous really works and has the potential to be a universal tool. Adding Friendfeed would be helpful - Gerrit Visser (gervis)
- Gerrit Visser
[Posterous much better then tumblr
- Webferret
This would be good
- Edward Ross
Agree. No reason for Posterous to miss out on this. Share the love FriendFeed - share the love!
- Dan Biddle
It would be fantastic to add Posterous to Friendfeed
- Mike Kellock
Yes, adding Posterous would be great!
- Allan Besselink
One more vote for Posterous to be added!
- Bem
+1 - Posterous is pretty awesome.
- Tony Wright
Posterous outpaces Skyrock on unique visitors, not to mention the trendline.
- Jeff Vyduna
It would definitely be nice to have Posterous added
- Justin Thiele
Another +1 for Posterous support.
- Big M Knows
+1
- Sam Odio
+1, love posterous!
- Gabriele
If Tumblr's in there, Posterous should be too.
- Ryan
I love you, Garry Tan! Posterous FTW!
- teh Dork Knight
+1 for posterous!
- webteam
That'd be great, yes.
- Rubin Sfadj
FriendFeed cannot avoid to support Posterous.com... What are your waiting for ?
- Renato Gabriele Ucci
+1 Posterous deserves this!
- Erinç Mullaoğlu
Yes please.
- Kol Tregaskes
Yes, please add!
- Vik Duggal
Garry: From a user perspective, Posterous is really slick. All the best to you guys.
- Nick in Manila
*bump* -- I have just imported a posterous of mine as custom atom/rss, but the resulting FF entry kinda sucks. Please add Posterous as a supported service!
- alieb
Definitely!
- Michael Fidler
+1
- Opensource Obscure
+1
- Daniel Ooi
+2 Go Posterous!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
+1 - would be a useful addition.
- Andy C
Still not added? Wow.
- Bwana ☠
*bump*
- alieb
Yes. Please add it.
- Rebeca
Yup, posterous rocks. Please add!
- Scott Magdalein
from iPhone
Another vote Posterous.
- Tal Shafik
Yes please, John Cleese
- Scott Gould
Friendfeed needs to time-stamp the comments.
Kathleen Capps, Kol Tregaskes, Tanath and 116 other people liked this
Yeah, that is something that I have been thinking about.
- Kevin Bondelli
Less thinking more action ;)
- Alberto Reyes
A tooltip maybe on hover over the quote graphic. Keep it clean
- Andrew Smith
Optional feature - timestamp - not default.
- Susan Beebe
great idea!
- Sarah Perez
it must be part of the API, since fftogo seems to include a time stamp on the comments
- Trent Olson
I'm sure they do store the timestamp, even if it isn't currently displayed.
- Mack D. Male
Yeah, it's in the api, all comments & likes are timestamped
- Glenn Slaven
I think this is a perfect plan. The only issue I might have is that the time information might take-over the conversations. It might just look more cluttered than FF already is.
- Ryne Nelson
It would be useful sometimes.
- Morton Fox
concur, very useful to have. Make it a display option. Those who would think it's clutter can turn it off then.
- Alexander Falk
It is in the API (I use them in fftogo). I vote that the timestamp should appear as text when you hover over the "thought bubble" to the left.
- Benjamin Golub
All comments are time-stamped in AlrertThingy and feedalizr
- Stephen B
from Alert Thingy
Comments are time stamped in bTT as well.
- Francois Bochatay
from bTT
and also in twhirl
- Marco Kaiser
from twhirl
agreed. Timestamps are important
- Peter Dawson
What about a comment alert?! How do you follow conversations on ff!?
- TommaSorchiotti
Not sure if this will add to the functionality, but should be something they can try out...
- Dennis Goedegebuure
Not sure a comment alert is necessary. Comments bring the post up to the top of the timeline, which makes it available for anyone who is currently paying attention to Friendfeed. (Not sure why anyone would want their attention brought to Friendfeed if it isn't already there, that would be a huge productivity drain).
- Jason Wehmhoener
Please, please remember that the whole world doesn't run on PDT. I don't want to see timestamps in my FF in gReader and have to always try to guess whether the west coast is 17, 16, or 15 hours behind. If you must display timestamps, please put them in GMT. Setting the timestamps on my FF page/in my FF feed to be correct in my local timezone would be even nicer.
- James Polley
yeah ! and a hide fonction for each comment
- Jonathan
منم به فارسی تایید می کنم
- Kamal
we know which came first... but in n argument the comments can edit. that makes time stamping very important so we know when someone made a change
- Noah David Simon
a timeline function in general would be nice, make everything more timeframe friendly
- Ruben Llibre
Show times either in GMT or in my own timezone, and just make it a tooltip for the quote balloon or something. Don't want it to look cluttered.
- Pat Hawks
just make the time relative from each comment, so I know who said what when in perspective. like 5 minutes later Noah David Simon said. <--this opens up
- Noah David Simon
like i said earlier about plurk :)
- kosmar
Is i really important to know when every single comment is made? Only the last one would really be useful, could have 'last comment on june 1 at..." right beside the date of the post.
- John Duff
If the timestamp is a tooltip, then it isn't really "in the way." Maybe we can have all the timestamps as tooltips, except the most recent comment will have the timestamp printed out below it, like John said.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I am so tired of entering an empty room and talking to myself for twenty minutes. lol
- Russellreno
A needed feature for sure I agree. I suggested this to the FF feedback room some weeks ago.
- Mike Fruchter
Any news?
- Amiroo ™
<--- try hover your mouse cursor on that little dialog icon
- topo
Sorry it's not more obvious, but if you hover your mouse over the comment icon you will see the time that the comment was made. Thanks for letting us know that it's hard to find! The feedback is much appreciated.
- Ross Miller
I believe they are timestamped but this data is not yet displayed.... you're right !
- David Berrebi
other than timestamp I also want to be able to like the comments individually =]
- Özgür D. Cyric
This thread shows what happens when nobody reads the comments before theirs
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Agreed. The entire time...
- Zachary Poley
from twhirl
Rahsheen, your point is awesome right now :)
- Zachary Poley
from twhirl
this feed tells me that noone reads the comments before theirs =] =] j/k
- Özgür D. Cyric
Yes,sure. The problems is how to realize it?
- Motor Industry
Ross Miller:Thanks, my bad lots of greasemonkey junk keep me away to recognize that
- Amiroo ™
My first iPhone 3GS Qik video. - http://qik.com/video/1991080
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Wayne Sutton, David Potts, John Harnett and 32 other people liked this
Comparison of Qik.com http://qik.com/video/1991080 or YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch... using an iPhone 3GS.
- Robert Scoble
Cool, iPhone 3GS with Qik works fine! (Not available to public yet).
- Robert Scoble
What did you record the video on?
- Jim Connolly
I was using an iPhone 3GS.
- Robert Scoble
I have a new Qik app that's in testing and was built specifically for my iPhone.
- Robert Scoble
This was broadcast over my Wifi network, but I'll try it later today on 3G.
- Robert Scoble
Very impressive!!
- Jim Connolly
wish qik was in the app store right now :( --
- Bryce Campbell
When will Qik be coming out for public?
- Andrew Smith
Andrew: they won't say (can't say, don't know?)
- Robert Scoble
Qik IS in an app store - Ovi Apps. Works awesome on an E or N Series ; >
- Thom Kennon
@Robert, is this the jailbroken Qik or the appstore Qik? We talked about this yesterday, but you didn't mention that you had it. NDA or something?
- Joey Gibson
Andrew: I'm sure they are trying to get it approved by Apple and AT&T right now. It works great and now that the iPhone 3GS has video, they should approve the app.
- Robert Scoble
Thom: and Qik is also on Android now.
- Robert Scoble
Joey: not jailbroken, but it's a developer's version that they made specificially for my iPhone 3GS.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: What do you think about Android - A game changer?
- Jim Connolly
I don't know enough to comment. Is this good quality for a phone?
- Todd Hoff
Jim: potentially yes. But it feels like 1993. Remember then? Apple's Mac was way ahead of Windows.
- Robert Scoble
Todd: yes, considering it's live video. If you want non live video, you can use YouTube. Let me upload one of those.
- Robert Scoble
bet now with video on the 3G S, something will come (or in progress), just hope they make it compatible with the 3G
- Bryce Campbell
Any idea when this will be available, Robert?
- Tom Guarriello
Tom: no.
- Robert Scoble
Looks cool and again I am jealous hopefully Apple will approve it
- Kim Landwehr
Looks great, and sign me up if they need testers in Canada on Rogers network :)
- Andrew Smith
Ohhh the "world from inside a fishbowl" camera effect! exclusively from iPhone #fail. - but hey! at least you can copy/paste now. #win
- Enrique Gutierrez
Looks pretty good, but QIK on the 3-4 Nokias we use is comparable. Blackberry is ok. N95 is the best quality, but that's a lens feature.
- Ken Camp
Enrique: heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Enrique: 1 .... Us: 0
- Thom Kennon
Andrew Smith, agree with your comment ;)
- Bryce Campbell
Robert, what size monitor are you using and what is the screen resolution?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
LPH: It's an Apple 24 inch monitor. 1900x1200.
- Robert Scoble
I had qik on my broken 3G. Worked Good. I have 3GS now. Would like to see the difference. Hopefully Apple will release soon. You get all the cool stuff first Rob. It's good to be the Scobleizer. !
- johnpiercy
I don't think it looks good at all.. It has the same wobbly (rolling shutter) issue as the older iPhones. Which is odd, since it doesn't show up *as much* on the normal recorded 3GS videos.
- Rodfather
Quality looks pretty great for a phone.
- Mitch
Here's the same iPhone 3GS but using YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Robert Scoble
The quality does look a bit better than my jb qik on 3G. Thanks for posting.
- Josh Haley
Robert are you sick are is your voice deeper?
- Jim Turner
I'm not sick.
- Robert Scoble
well quality to me looks pretty good for a phone, also looks better than the 3G, what i like about Qik is not the quality of the video but the content, not that i would use it all the time, but when something i want to record like a event in which would help the authorities or whatever may be the case.
- Bryce Campbell
Is the "fish bowl" look due to the glare off that monitor? Maybe do a live test where there isn't a reflection -- is that possible?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Qik has their codecs turned down pretty low from a quality standpoint. It won't stand up against the h.264 native version being fed to YouTube.
- Jerry Schuman
Quality looks really impressive on Youtube. Will save me the fuss of getting a Flip machine for daily shootings.
- Nir Ben Yona
If they approve the app I'm buying a 3gs.
- Craig Shipp
The YouTube quality is a lot nicer, but it's not live either. Liveness is very important to me a lot of the time because you can chat with me while filming.
- Robert Scoble
LPH: yeah, the reflections caused that. Sorry. It was just something quick and dirty.
- Robert Scoble
This is great news! Hope that Qik app gets approved by Apple, though.
- Rom Feria
Robert - nothing to apologize - I wondered if that "look" was due to the reflection. I really look forward to trying this out on my own 3G S !
- LPH™ and his dog P™
It's possible the processor is being taxed so much since it has to encode the video and stream at the same time. The rolling shutter issue is still really bad.
- Rodfather
Rodfather: the Qik app needs to compress the video much much more than the YouTube one does so that it will work over 3G live.
- Robert Scoble
Since this is wifi - are you also going to do a 3G one too?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
LPH: yes, but I don't have 3G at my house, so that will need to be later.
- Robert Scoble
What is the upload and encoding time for YouTube for a one minute video? Also, can you add the video to a playlist via the iPhone?
- Craig Shipp
I fully expect to see Apple to get into the realtime video stream game. It's in the core competency and they're building both the online ability as well as the hardware support.
- Jerry Schuman
Foiled by Apple Gloss!
- BryanSchuetz
What is 3G like in general around were you live, then? You are somewhere around San Fran, Robert?
- Christopher A. Wichura
how long till you can do a live remote video feed via me.com and seen in realtime on your AppleTV?
- Jerry Schuman
The problem is not Apple it's ATT and not enough bandwidth
- Craig Shipp
Yes Robert, but the quality doesn't look all that much better than from an original iPhone/3g and the 3GS has a much faster processor. It could be the frame is slow. One of the things to get around the rolling shutter effect is increasing the framerate.
- Rodfather
You must be doing something right Robert, Steve Gillmor just liked your Qik video from the 3GS ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
Indistinguishable from my G1, quality-wise.
- Christopher A Carr
I can't wait until the 4g and HD streaming video....maybe next summer. That will be a game changer for sure.
- Craig Shipp
Robert, Excellent - I look forward to the 3G test too. It should be illuminating !
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Flips next evolution should be something akin to embedding a mifi ability so that its straight to the network and they can augment their revenue stream and they actually become a friend to the video enabled 3/4G phones
- Jerry Schuman
Robert - while thinking about this - do you have the low down on a Ustream version of live broadcasting with the iPhone? Any public word?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
LPH: I haven't heard anything yet.
- Robert Scoble
Jerry: Steve Gillmor is a media innovator. I bet he's thinking about Gillmor Gang 6.0 or whatever we're going to call it when we start that all up again. :-)
- Robert Scoble
RE: Qik; looking forward to that Android running, WiMax enabled Samsung device for Sprint...
- Christopher A Carr
I, for one, am definitely looking forward to GG6.0. I have an itch I need to scratch.
- Jerry Schuman
Robert: how is the 3GS going anyway - is it worth buying?
- Geer
Geer: it's faster. The camera is better. It does video. It has a compass. It seems to use less batteries. It seems to drop fewer calls. So, yes, it's worth it.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: good feedback, I would like the camera/video, but I think I will continue to give my "plain" 3G a few more months!
- Geer
so they should be using apple's private APIs, if you say it's not jailbroken
- Konstantin
Robert: It'll be Gillmor Gang 2010 of course
- Greg Byrne
Trying out AlertThingy FriendFeed edition for the iPhone - http://itunes.apple.com/WebObje...
paniaguai, BTAICBW, Jeremy Baines and 20 other people liked this
any good? honestly now...
- Zee.
what's the best iPhone FF app?
- Mike Bracco
Will FF ever develop an official app or are they going to leave it up to 3rd parties like this?
- Mike Bracco
Mike, I've tried AltertThingy, MotherFeed, BuddyFeed, and Nambu. Each has their strengths and weaknesses -- maybe I should write a mini-review :).
- Paul Buchheit
That would be nice :) What turns me off about some of these apps is that it does multiple social networks which usually means compromises in being able to best interface with any one of the social networks. On the desktop front, apps like Seesmic are figuring it out in terms of multiple accounts but I feel the iPhone is behind in terms of a one app for all. So until that happens I'll have the Facebook app for FB and Tweetie for Twitter.
- Mike Bracco
FF's iPhone site is pretty good without any third party apps, although I've only tried out MotherFeed.
- 321
Paul - Yea, consider doing app reviews.. I'd love to read your take on these FF client apps
- Susan Beebe
Sanat, I disagree about the web interface for FF being good. I find it challenging at best. I'd love to see this program developed (refresh and ability to like entries faster) and it'd be good.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
I've really only used the iPhone web interface and BuddyFeed, but the one thing I liked about BuddyFeed is the ability to use your photo library when creating posts. That'd be impossible (I think) with a web interface. All the available options are missing the new FriendFeed features like DMing and notifications, but that's a limitation of the available API.
- Mark Trapp
Offline viewing and push notifications would be other features, but I don't think any of the native applications offer those just yet.
- Mark Trapp
Unfortunately AlertThingy crashes on every start. Even rebooting doesn't help. Interestingly, the first time I launched, it did work.
- Lars Trieloff
from BuddyFeed
Some people experiencing this problem are telling me that if you uninstall and reinstall it works. i am looking into this issue, it is only happening for a few people.
- Jeremy Baines
"But a closer look revealed that it was actually a huge collection of icons for many of the apps available in the App Store, arranged by color. Apparently, when someone purchased one, that app’s icon would pulsate, creating the effect." - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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Chris Rossini, ǝuǝƃnǝ, Adam Kazwell and 12 other people liked this
This is at WWDC. There's a video behind the link.
- Kevin Fox
Wow, that's awesome.
- Stephen Mack
Wikipedia 5000 pages, fully printed : Rob Matthews - http://www.rob-matthews.com/index...
'Like' robot (frɐnc), HealingBrush, cysko and 247 other people liked this
"Reproducing Wikipedia in a dysfunctional physical form helps to question it's use as an internet resource. Articles in the book: Wikipedia's featured articles."
- Cee Bee
from Bookmarklet
Can't wait for the handy pocket edition!
- Michael McKean
Seems smaller than those big sets of encyclopedias we had when I was a kid.
- Alix Whitmire
my thought exactly Alix...
- Ňicķ
My first thought too... kinda disappointed
- Internet's Tad
It's only the feature articles - the ones that have been properly vetted, redacted, agreed on and quality controlled (no half finished sentences and "more details needed" stuff) - from the source: "At present, there are 2,529 featured articles, of a total of 2,903,080 articles on the English Wikipedia." The full wikipedia would be 1000 times this, but most of it would be 25 line standard templates with "this article is a stump"
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Featured articles are disappointing: that there are so few of them, and that so many of them are on arcane narrow topics (one painting, one book etc.)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Alix- I was thinking the same thing. My childhood set of pedias in the 80s (that were from the 60s and 70s) stacked a lot higher than that. I'm more surprised that there are only 5,000 8.5 x 11 inch double sided pages of Wikipedia information. Seems low.
- Tony
Joelle- Now that seems more along the lines of what I was thinking.
- Tony
disappointed to see so many incomplete articles on wiki..:-(
- Özhan Yiğitler
But you can edit featured articles. Which makes the book out-of-date already :).
- Nikhil Dandekar
that is %5 of a tree i guess.
- bora "head" basman
I wonder how many pages there would be if you printed out all the pop culture related articles on things like Jedi Knights.
- Jess Lee
My first thought, Holy shit that's big.
- Matt Ruiz
I'll finish this book in 24 hours :) (will have) :D
- Özgür KORKMAZ
I don't get WHAT they're trying to prove?
- Scott of Two Countries
it's an art project
- Cee Bee
art indeed and good metaphor to save trees... go digital
- Yann Ropars
@Cee Bee: Yes, but if the quoted description is part of it, I don't see how it "helps to question [Wikipedia]'s use as an internet resource."
- Scott of Two Countries
wow
- Rob Sellen :o)
wonder how long that will take to read!
- Rob Sellen :o)
Those are some tight pants for a dude.
- Mitch
all the rage now mitch... back to 80's aint it. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I made the mistake of looking up "Furbys" once - never do that again --- ewwwwwww
- Brent - Long Live Rock
Woooow!!! that's incredible!!
- Michael
Mitch: They're called "skinnies"
- Nicholas James
BTW...wonder how much this would weigh ?
- Nicholas James
That's just wrong! How many trees died for that? (sorry, I'm a tree hugger from my old Santa Cruz days)
- Arleen Anderson
kool
- Cynthia Yildirim
Arleen: its ok, the new trees planted will suck up more CO2! My first thought, was, "how often will they have to re-print?
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
its huuuuuuuuuge :)
- Göksel Şirin
wow that's huge... how outdated is it already now? hehe
- Marko Saric
Not huge at all, even if it is only featured articles. Alix noted it looks smaller than book set remembered a kid and I agree. Now, if they printed all the smaller, cross referenced articles each with a page, it would be huge.
- Michael W. May
Surprised it is so few pages
- Chris Sparno
from BuddyFeed
wow, that's a fantastic visual on the size of wikipedia
- Susan Beebe
They could break it up into volumes like every other encyclopedia does.
- John Hardy
How long would it take to find: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...?
- DaveDelaney.ME
Dave Delaney: Ironically, that article would not be in the encyclopedia. It isn't marked as a Featured Article.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
All thanks to...http://friendfeed.com/jimmywa... shhhhhhh....
- sofarsoShawn
Great bedtime reading.... it'll prolly break the nightstand tho :p
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
It can *be* the nightstand
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Hypertext is vital these days to make sense of all that.
- Mark Edmondson
this just strikes me a a pointless exercise (at best) - and the quote seems to suggest that printing it shows how it is less than valuable as a tool. Huh?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
http://friendfeed.com/grahamh... is my 40,000th follower here on friendfeed. Wild, thanks!
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Congratulations, Robert!
- Matt Ruiz
40.000... the population of a medium city :)
- FedericaB.
Federica: Robert is mining an underground city.
- Matt Ruiz
Congratulations Robert! Watching "Faces of Earth" followed by "Next World" on The Science channel nothing like taking a peek into what the Future can look Like! All starts at 9pm!
- nathan
Robert : will u have some time tomorrow after noon ?
- Johni Fisher
Johni: yeah, I should be home or at Rocky's house because we're launching Building43 on Thursday. Call me +1-425-205-1921
- Robert Scoble
i'm so glad rocky was rehired. screw you Fast Company
- David Lloyd
So what do you think about the Palm Pre? Ia it that good?
- nathan
nathan: I have mixed feelings about it. I need to use it more to really be authoritative about it.
- Robert Scoble
truth is all the press they are getting will go out the window tommroow because of WWDC
- nathan
most of wwdc will be software releases and would be crazy if they dont do iphone 3 with video although they might wait for steve jobs to deliver that news
- nathan
what do you think comes out of WWDC tommorow?
- nathan
Congrats
- James Hemby
Thx Robert :-) yes I know that u r b z
- Johni Fisher
If direct messages are working please send me one going to eat dinner, next world and the alker game enjoy your monday robert!
- nathan
Modern Fossils: When A Dino Bone Won't Do - Geekologie - http://www.geekologie.com/2009...
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awesome. i love that hd
- Christopher Chung
Fortune: "Time spent on Facebook, Twitter grows by leaps and bounds since last year." - http://money.cnn.com/2009...
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So can we divide 13.9E9 by 200E6 to get about 70min/user in April for FB? Compare that with Nielsen's data from Q32008 of 142 hours of TV/month.
- Matsis
A real Apple Television??? Boy, this would be interesting; talk about slowly taking over the world. What's next, cars? http://bit.ly/chgXi Will Apple Make An Actual Television? Makes Sense To Me
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From B.Gurley's post: "This is a huge market. Q1 2009 flat-panel TV sales were roughly 7mm units. Let’s assume Apple can get roughly 10% of this market. That would be 2.8MM units a year. Assume an average price point of say $1250, and that’s a $3.5B opportunity for Apple."
- Mark Evans
From B.Gurley's post: "Here is the punch line: it will all be built around the iPhone ecosystem. What this means is that the entire application ecosystem from the iPhone is now available on your TV. You can now get your entire music library. Stocks, weather, photos – done. Pandora – done. YouTube – done. "
- Mark Evans
They better put HDMI on it and not just Mini-DisplayPort.
- Akiva Moskovitz
It's been discussed for a long time. But guessing Apple's plans has proven hard...
- Louis Gray
Premium flat-panel makers lost market share in that same period; low-cost makers drove units, esp. Vizio. And DTV transition loomed. I think it will be an outlier Q. Good investment opty for a premimum maker, but I wouldn't say $3.5B just yet.
- Wade Dorrell
Also, I wonder if copper providers will let this sail by, after seeing what positives/negatives were for AT&T.
- Wade Dorrell
I'm in the market for a new TV. Right now a nice 42" 1080p LCD runs around $800. If the similar size Apple TV is much more than $1000 I might not be too interested. Buying a TV AND a built in computer at the same time is gonna break a bunch of budgets.
- Internet's Tad
Now, Project Natal driving multi-touch web browser + the rest of the XBox ecosystem would be significantly hot. Wither the self-leveling TV?
- Wade Dorrell
This summer, pick 5 places you'd like to go that have similar weather and then have a travel agent pick one of them and mail you the tickets, along with the time and airline of the first flight. Don't open the envelope until you get to the airport. Surprise!
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With my luck, I'd walk into Newark Liberty to find I got tickets to... Newark Liberty.
- Mark Trapp
Control freak FAIL.
- John Craft
Mark: With a layover in Denver.
- Kevin Fox
Haha, exactly.
- Mark Trapp
There are still travel agents?
- Seth
I really, really, really love Bing. But I won't use it. Why do I love it? Competition for Google is a GOOD thing! Read why I won't use it:
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I am using Google less and less and when I do it's from my iPhone's interface.
- Robert Scoble
Or from a browser's interface. Google is "good enough" and it'll take more than "10% better" (which Bing is in places) to rewire my brain from Google to Bing.
- Robert Scoble
There are some exceptions, though. Verticals. I could see using the video search. Or the travel features. They both are very nice.
- Robert Scoble
And I will consider the "cash back" for shopping. But it's going to be tough to get me off of Google, how about you?
- Robert Scoble
Agreed. Does not feel different enough. Google is safe for a few more years.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin: yeah, and I don't like the "look" of it. I think that's because Google is burned into my brain. It's going to be difficult to get that unburned. On the other hand, I can see the hundreds of millions of people on Hotmail trying it, if it's integrated well.
- Robert Scoble
How much will the 'well, it's the search engine that came on my computer' play into it. My sister still uses MSN search
- Johnny Worthington
Robert Scoble saying I love Bing is a good start compared to their previous attempts. So far I have had positive results. Will I change my habit of typing google without even knowing it? not sure.
- Vaibhav
And it is definitely a credible effort on all the searches I've tried so far. That's a HUGE difference from older search technologies Microsoft put together.
- Robert Scoble
Vaibhav: I know that having a credible competitor will keep Google innovative for a lot longer than if there were never any competition from anyone else. Now Google has some fire underneath them. No longer can Google's executives ignore the main search experience, which hasn't seen much innovation for a while.
- Robert Scoble
Bing has done a great job in its UI as well as for some other features (excerpt on results, image, map, videos, etc.). I'm still waiting for comments on how good their indexing/ranking is. I hope it'll be better than before.
- Dave Fuentes
For that I love Bing, big time.
- Robert Scoble
I'm just impressed the results are not the subpar crap from before. It's as good as Google down to even the minor computational stuff I've thrown at it.
- Adi
I have the same feeling as for the Google and competition. There is no silver bullet, and there shouldn't be one BIG and SMART and whatever else company. Wish there would be email solution better than Google Apps. Wanted to pay for Apple's MobileMe but I think almost nobody is using their Web mail. And they still do not do custom email domains. So, Google is a winner for now... though, I beg for competitors :-)
- Olexiy Prokhorenko
You can't use things like "comfort" and "what you're used to" as reasons, kids that aren't used to anything, and are better at picking up new things will see Bing for what it really is. Now what that is, I still have no idea, we'll see how it performs the next time I need to find something I guess.
- Colin
Does anyone know when Mahalo 2 will be released?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I think Bing's novelty as a fresh face will wear off soon, and there's really nothing earth shattering about it as a search engine. I definitely think competition with Google is a great thing, because it's competition between two entities like Microsoft and Google that could really drive innovation (hopefully in OS building someday?). But I guess framing "Bing" as a competitor is a...
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- Victor Barrera
From the little that I've tried it out, it seems to be work fine; not better than Google, but mostly on par. But, like you said, after years of using Google exclusively, I won't be switching search engines unless something that is clearly better comes out.
- 321
The Snow Leopard on the front page is amusing.
- Diego Barros
There was a time when AltaVista was the king and I couldn't have imagined to use something else... I don't see why I couldn't make a switch again.
- Jemm
Found the T&C document for the cash-back: "You can participate in the Live Search cashback service if you are 18 years or older, reside in the United States..." and there I stopped reading.
- Edward Coffey
Love the "I think that's because Google is burned into my brain" quote. This is [scary] true
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Cashback service? What was that Edward? They payed people to use Live Search?
- Colin
What has changed at Microsoft? Bing, Windows 7, Zune HD all seem to be getting positive reviews.
- Vaibhav
So far, for me, I am finding that it does vanity searches better. Kevin Fox mentioned somewhere else on FF that it messes with page titles - that piece I an not so hot on.
- Andy Bold
Also, the pr0n biz might feel the heat from the video search it's got. Just sayin'. ;)
- Adi
Did I just see Matt Cutts (http://twitter.com/mattcutts) comparing results for Google with @bing? Hhhmmm that's interesting to follow.
- Dave Fuentes
Google is more famous, and more common, so for now I will stick with google. Bing does have some interesting features though. They are worthy enough to look into, but google is still the one. At least for me it is. Bing will eventually evolve, and who knows, it could become the next big thing.
- TheHenry
I think it is going to be baby steps. If MS get 2 to 3 % increase in market share that will be good enough for now. They have to keep improving though and yes Google needs competition.
- Rohit Harshvardhan
Thanks Edward
- Colin
Once the Wow dies down, Bing will be to Google as what the Zune is to the iPod.
- Diego Barros
hahah. Agreed @Diego
- TheHenry
Simple vanity-searches on Bing for some of my friends and family who aren't famous but have active online presences actually put links to those presences in the first few results. Google prefers genealogy data of long-dead relatives, or the inactive, boiler-plate staff profile pages of university professors.
- Edward Coffey
Edward, I've noticed the same. That's quite nice of Bing..
- Christopher A Carr
Its frustrating that because I'm in the UK, I can't test the service. Would like to put it through its paces.
- Jim Connolly
TechNewsBlog: Why? Not out there yet? I can use it here in Australia.
- Diego Barros
That is pretty weak Tech News Blog, the whole point of the internet is that it doesn't have those boundaries.
- Colin
Christopher and Edward: both search engines put my old blog up top. Really pisses me off, I wish they'd move it down. Google puts friendfeed up where it belongs, though, while Bing has my wife's friendfeed above mine. That's VERY weird.
- Robert Scoble
Tech News, I'm also UK and it's working for me. What do you see?
- Andy Bold
Nice change of direction, i have tried it and the results have been good
- Deepa
Andy: I can see it now - Thanks! On Friday, I just got a redirect page.
- Jim Connolly
Over here, the bing.com domain is active, snow leopard and all, but the search results are just identical to Live Search (see query "hotel brussels" - http://www.scrnshots.com/users... ). None of the fancy stuff from the announcement video's is there.
- Dirk Houbrechts
For me, the biggest issue is that '10% better' learning curve. Until a search engine is SIGNIFICANTLY better/different than Google, it's going to be hard to convince me to chance.
- Cory OBrien
@stuart: I think it changes everyday. Soon snow leopard will be the thing of past (in more than one sense) ;)
- Jemm
I see the same results that Live search gave( when I tried a week back) . I don't find the site "snippet" to be useful as well.
- Krishnamoorthy
@Robert - what do you like bing to do that would make you swtich to it ? I understand core relevance improvements. but what else ? are there any potential directions that you think would make the user do a swtich...
- Krishna Gade
@jemm It might be geographical as well. I don't see the Leopard, I was getting a Nebula and now a bunch of hot air baloons over Turkey. I'm located in The Bahamas.
- Adi
Krishna: real time search that's better than friendfeed would get me interested very quickly. Integrating real time feedback underneath business listings would be even better. Do those two and then you change the game.
- Robert Scoble
The snow leopard has not gone from the front page for me.
- Diego Barros
Bing Maps FAIL http://friendfeed.com/dryligh...
- Diego Barros
Why would you need to rewire your brain? If I like a particular search engine's results, I'll just set my browser to use it as a default search. Do you actually go to the search engine's website and type your query into their search box? Gah.
- Stuart Schram
Robert: Real time search for any search engine is at best difficult. Google as an example has server farms located all over the planet and the databases are not all updated simultaneously. Not all that long ago Google only updated once a month and it took a week. They do it a lot quicker and more frequently now but you can see the implications there for real time search. Plus the...
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- Gilbert Harding
Oh, and FWIW, if I have to choose between the two, I'd much rather a mapping website simply fail to work than get effed-up results from Google Maps that send us more than 3 miles deep into Deliverance country so that I get griefed for the next 15 minutes while everybody in the car wonders if we're going to be made to squeal like piggies.
- Stuart Schram
I will hate the name until Armageddon
- Bwana ☠
lmao @ Bwana :D
- vijay
I liked quite a few features, but it just didn't feel quite as clean as Google, and it didn't produce results quite as good (for my handful of sample searches). The best thing to come out of this will probably that Google learns a few new tricks from Bing & does them better.
- Gurpreet
It looks fugly, and a few quick test searches gave really horrid results.
- Anders Husa
Here's a question Robert, what makes this better than Yahoo search?
- Bwana ☠
Completely agree. I see no reason to switch from Google but it's nice for Google to have someone to compete with.
- John Munro
The only place I would be likely to use Bing is on my iPhone. But guess what? They don't have a mobile Bing site. It redirects to the sorry old Live Search mobile site. Yuck. Microsoft should have had a free App Store app for Bing ready to roll today for the launch if they weren't going to support a mobile version. No matter how much they want to, it makes little sense for Microsoft to ignore the iPhone's popularity.
- Andy
An incremental evolution of search isn't going to unseat Google. Google is more than "good enough", and even if Bing does turn out to be marginally better that's not enough to get a lot of switchers (and Google can easily clone Bing's features). MS needs a game changer and Bing doesn't seem to be it. And while I don't agree with Robert's enthusiasm for "real time" search, I do feel that...
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- Eric P
I like Bing pretty much but hey lets be honest its still half baked as with so many other MS products (unlike Windows Seven)
- Abhishek
It's not a competitor for real if people don't use it, Robert... Be part of the solution, not part of the problem! =)
- Andrew C
Scoble: I am really loving Bing as well. It with this Greasemonkey script (http://blog.mikedavidsmith.com/...) that allows you to add Twitter to the side panel (I really hated Twitter at the very top of the search) is very usable. The problem is that I go to Google for Gmail, Reader, and Calendar among other things. But I might try changing the base search engine of my Firefox awesome bar to Bing and see how it works (http://www.howinthetech.com/changin...).
- Sweyn Venderbush
I don't think I'll be using 'Bing' as a verb any time soon. Google IS search.
- Vince DeGeorge
I'm am finding it works as well as Google as a default provider in Chrome but I agree it will have to be a lot better than Google or have some unique extremely useful features before it will make any serious inroads. But it could creep up on Google search if Microsoft continues to press on all fronts (features, marketing, real time/speed of indexing) and if Google strays doing other stuff like Wave and neglects new search functionality.
- Brian Sullivan
Who do the people of Twitter follow? - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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I hereby dub this "Dave's Suggested Users List" - should we create a script that follows everyone on this list for you? :)
- Jesse Stay
BTW I just got off the phone with Erik Shurman and we had a great time talking about this
- Jesse Stay
So, what immediately strikes me about this is: the employees of Twitter hardly read the early adopters and power users of Twitter. Jason Calacanis has 6 followers; Chris Anderson of Wired has merely 5. Walt Mossberg has 4; David Pogue has 3. I didn't see you, Dave, at all. And they don't follow much in the way of journalism: the Economist has only a few readers. Whom do they follow?...
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- Jason Pontin
Today's Real-Time Web Makes Blogging and RSS Seem "Too Slow" - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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I posted a comment on your blog post, but commenting on blog posts seems too slow -- I guess I should have commented on it here. Frankly, deciding where the conversation takes place seems too slow.
- Rex Hammock
But someone has to read those sites/feeds to introduce content into the social stream, especially if the publisher is not present on Social Media websites. Once it's introduced into the stream, it can be propagated by recommendations. But someone's got to do it the first time ...
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
The problem lies with the service you're importing from and if thats feedburner then its going to come in slow.
- Nicholas James
The only time I read blogs if they are linked from FriendFeed, (maybe Twitter) and the thread has comments.....so I suppose I should now go click on that link and read the blog.....
- Mike Nencetti
@Rex Yep, I followed a link to a @jessestay blog post Louis mentioned on FF and found myself not sure where to post my comment. Louis', Jesse's FF or on Jesse's blog. Hmmm.
- Mark Evans
I'm excited about Google Wave precisely because it holds out some promise for greater integration of our various online flows. I like FF because it seems best at that right now, and because it's still pretty clean. I do think integrative tools are the thing right now, but I wonder if GWave brings so many things together that I'll feel like I'm going under. Can't wait to play with it, in...
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- Kathy Fitch
Mark, any place is fine. We'll read it anywhere you place it, especially if you include our names. :) Pick your favorite place to comment.
- Jesse Stay
Kathy, ditto, I think that one of the biggest functions of Google Wave for me... that it will unite all these various flows.
- Justin Long
@jessestay Thanks!
- Mark Evans
So much of the Real-time web seems to disappear as fast as it flies by. Completely agree with Louis' post - GReader is still very useful to read and share from. Lots of options for tools and I like that I've got a few places to run across information - I was busy on Friday, so missed this on Twitter and FriendFeed, but found it in GReader where I can catch up later. For sites like TechCrunch where there is so much volume, it's usually through Twitter or FriendFeed that I find that valuable articles.
- Stuart Miniman
RSS is the plumbing of Web2.0, it is the physical infrastructure that most new information vehicles commute. The more invisible RSS becomes, the more successful it will be.
- Louis Moynihan
Hide, hide, hide, hide, hide, hide and... hide! I love FF!
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*hides*
- Alix Whitmire
Huh.. I haven't actually hidden anything. I must be less irritable than I thought.
- Michael McKean
Open Office 3.1 [final released today] - http://www.ghacks.net/2009...
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"Some of the new features that have been added to Open Office 3.1 are antialiased drawings to smooth the edges of graphics, replying to notes, improved grammar checking, hyperlink management and sorting, control of slideshow media, macro support for Open Office Base, relative database paths, better internationalization for Hebrew and Arabic plus performance improvements (read our Speed up Open Office article for even more tips on how to improve the speed and performance)."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
I've been using OpenOffice on all of my new computers for the past 1+ years. I absolutely hate Office 2007's UI!
- Jeff P. Henderson
I'm a MASSIVE fan of openoffice - It does everything I need and the support community are fantastic.
- Jim Connolly
Brilliant!
- Niklas Pivic
Nice, I use this at home a lot but do run into some problems porting it over to Word regarding footnotes, hope thats fixed in this version
- Mark Edmondson
I don't know about you guys, but I like Office 2007 UI. I find it to be very easy to navigate and use. OpenOffice feels like MS Office's ugly brother, but I am sure it will get better in time.
- Artem Daniliants
from IM
please tell me when am I getting the ribbon UI?
- Lakshman Prasad
I'm with Artem above. MSO2K7 FTW. MS is miles ahead of OO.o in terms of UI. It's worth paying for IMO.
- LANjackal
O2K7's ribbon UI is really, really confusing for people who've grown up with 2k3 and prior. I can understand that for many tasks it can be faster over time, but I see people all over my school and various offices who bumble through the menus every single time even after 2 years of use. That + .docx etc. in environments where you can't install the compatibility pack = angry users
- mjc
did they add the view/outline with complete features? Is the only reason I still use Word....I am ready to switch if they did
- bonuck (e gli associati?)
thanks for the hint. Time for another huge download, I assume
- Thorsten Matzner
Thorsten, I guess. I remember I had to download the whole thing last time they released any update. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
I've sworn off menus thanks to the ribbon in MS Office 2007. It's so much easier to find and remember where functionality is than in 2K3, it's not even funny.
- Chieze Okoye
Cool! This means that the Mac port NeoOffice is going to get even better! It has worked well for me since last August, and has never crashed or caused anyone using MS Office to see any weird formatting from my end. UI-wise, iWork is just splendid though, and I'm going to ante up for the full paid version rather than the 1 month trial one of these days.
- Siddharth Deb
Love OO. Just want them to have a version of publisher.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
I love Open Office...Well open source-period. But those guys have allowed me to be a professional without having to rely upon MS. Thanks for letting us know about this, I plan to head over and download mine this week!
- Benin Brown
How the Google Chrome logo was created:
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This is what happens when Chris Anderson retweets my post about Google Wave from his TED twitter account
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Traffic went up sky high. Incredible. Shows how insignificant the traffic to my blog really is ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
Nice....
- Alex Griffiths
Was kinda happy with the day before. hadn't blogged in a while due to workload, so the traffic was declining a bit. Then this happened. Weird.
- Alexander van Elsas
It's happened a few times before. I find it to be non-sustainable. It's like s hit and run. People subscribe less to blogs anyways, 50% of this traffic was caused by Twitter
- Alexander van Elsas
Hopefully you will gain more followers after all the exposure! :)
- Johnny
Alexander, if you don't mind sharing, what percentage of the Twitter referrals looked at more than one page of your blog?
- Robert Seidman
@Robert, I don;t think Wordpress can tell me that exactly. But the traffic is focused 90% on that one post.
- Alexander van Elsas
As long as it happens every now & then I wouldn't object to it.
- Ton Zijp
Gmail is My FriendFeed Client - http://staynalive.com/article...
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Great piece I will give it a whirl tomorrow when I'm rested.
- Russ Jackson
Excellent post Jesse. Chock full of great tips. I'm particularly keen to try Gmail to monitor a particular room I hang out in. That and the Backtype notification of mentions. Cheers!
- Kate Foy
I use mute the exact way except with posts I comment on only instead of my discussions.
- Benjamin Golub
from fftogo
Ben, that's mostly how I use it. Very rarely will I mute discussions from my own posts.
- Jesse Stay
from email
I think this is a critical insight, Jesse. The problem with the proliferation of clients, it seems to me, is that they require you to go "to" them. RSS and email deliver value because they pull things to you. I've been using email with Friendfeed almost since the beginning, and love it. I did *not* know about the name@friendfeed.com function, though. Thank you!
- Keven Elliff
Good idea. I use GMail to send messages to FF from my G1 Android.
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
That's a great article Jesse. Thanks a million.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Rob, you're welcome. I've got 2 more in the series coming.
- Jesse Stay
What is the distinction when enabling the following 3 Email/IM notification options: 1) "My discussions" 2) "Comments on posts I commented on" 3) "Comments on posts I liked"?
- Kevin Whalen
"My discussions" is the union of the other 2. It is everything you like or comment on.
- Benjamin Golub
Jesse, you must be crippled when Gmail goes down
- Mark Bockenstedt
Ok, that is what I thought. Thanks Ben!
- Kevin Whalen
from email
Mark, that's actually not that often, and it all comes to me when Gmail comes back up.
- Jesse Stay
from email
I like to keep my inbox as clean as possible, the only items in my inbox are things I need to do - bills to pay, upcoming events, etc. might give this a shot though
- Mark Bockenstedt
Mark, same here - I usually have a pretty empty inbox.
- Jesse Stay
With the new FF email features in the redesign, I'm wondering if there are any plans of FF adding more functionality for it to be used as a email client (ie. we all already have a username@friendfeed.com email for DM)? FF is already a great communication platform and could be used for everything.
- Kevin Whalen
from email
That sounds so 2001
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Great post
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
from BuddyFeed
i'm fixing to try this right now. thanks!
- sean808080
Kevin: That's why I changed my username from "dubby" to "frankiewarren," can't be too careful.
- Frankie Warren
from email
+1 Frankie.
- Kevin Whalen
from email
I've tried the Gmail route before, but the "noise" was overwhelming. "Mute" is the key.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, I agree - it can be pretty noisy - I have only My Discussions going there... i find that i can manage it okay
- Chris Heath
Gmail threaded conversations are key, as well as mute functionality. Enabling notifications on My Discussions I find is great to manage FF conversations. I also use the multiple inbox lab in Gmail to separate out my primary @mac address (used for family/friends). which cuts down on the noise.
- Kevin Whalen
from email
Thanks for the great tips!
- Matyjas
The Friendfeed gadget works in Gmail!
Alessandro Cosimetti, Nikos Kouremenos, Nils Sandin and 80 other people liked this
whao sweet!
- Zach Landes
I know. I am commenting on this from Gmail!
- Steve Rubel
I don't know if a could deal with that tiny width, but it's cool nonetheless. ;)
- Brandon
Cool - how did you do that?
- Nick Reynolds
Thanks
- Nick Reynolds
Lovely!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
should the url: http://friendfeed.com/embed... :)
- Hobbes
I have successfully added
- Hobbes
uh oh, perhaps disturbing is a better description
- jerobins
I can't find the page,it shows nothing when I open it up.
- Steve Chou
But..how use this xml?
- enrico
The links are not working anymore - just gives me a blank page?
- Oyvind Solstad
How do I do this?
- David Cook
Is there a real-time gadget?
- Rolf Schewe
You need to go to Gmail | Settings | Labs | Add any gadget by URL | Enable
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
i'm using it from months. It's really useful
- Daniele Di Gregorio
Added! Thanks
- Micah Wittman
from twhirl
I wish I could add this gadget, but when I enable the Gadgets from any URL thing in Labs, I don't see the form to enter the URL under the Gadgets tab. Apparently several people have this problem (went to the Google Groups to add feedback that it's not working correctly), and no one has offered up any solution. :( Sucks!
- Cheryl Jones
Finally get the idea,it is cool though,but not very practical.
- Steve Chou
The URL tab is added to your settings area, not the Labs area. That was confusing for me.
- Yolanda
That is so cool! For me, the only problem is the width which is not appropriate but it works fine
- Rémi Fayolle
@Yolanda: I know. The description for the Labs item that you enable says that a Gadgets tab will be enabled on the Settings page, but clicking on that Gadgets tab doesn't show the form where you can enter the URL like it's supposed to. Bah.
- Cheryl Jones
@cheryljones I'm having the same problem too. I just get a blank page on the gadgets tab. Let me know if you figure out how to import.
- Al Stevens
@Al: Just for fun I went back to the Gadget tab in my Gmail settings, and the URL form box is there now. Just added the FriendFeed gadget to Gmail, yay!
- Cheryl Jones
Hmmm. The FF gadget is less useful than I thought. First of all, there doesn't seem to be a way to manually refresh it without refreshing Gmail as a whole (perhaps I'm too impatient waiting for updates). Also you can't post an original post through the gadget. And the number of FF updates shown by the gadget is limited. I thought I'd be able to see older posts. Oh well, it might be good for occasional use.
- Cheryl Jones
Nice, but wish the tabs in Gmail had replacing options..
- Reza
It's not enough wide for me.
- Smeerch
A while ago it stopped refreshing properly so I stopped using it.
- Cheryl Jones
Official Google Blog: Went Walkabout. Brought back Google Wave. - http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009...
Shannon Myers, Forrest Cox, Brian Milby and 146 other people liked this
Congrats, Lars, Jens, and Steph!
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
I don't want to wait for Google Wave - Browseology lets me collaborate in real time, available now! http://www.browseology.com
- Joe Pestro
I never seen that slick UI that has maded by Google, props for that, that's looks awesome
- Kristian Salonen
Wave looks a little confusing (then again I'm at work, so I couldn't read the whole blog post), but the concept is interesting. I don't think it will be able to compete with Twitter if that's what they were aiming for.
- Ocean
I wonder if the FF designer brigade will dis this like they did the new FF UI?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@Ocean - people will actually be able to get work done with Wave :P
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I'm just thinking of the people who are not even on Twitter, how will they digest this :)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
I have the same concern - if middle management can't easily participate from their blackberries, then it's dead in the enterprise water.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
Looks awesome !!
- Matthew Marley
So my interpretation is that this is like an extension of email, that can integrate closely with other services.
- Daniel Sims
No prizes for guessing what my first idea for an application is....this looks very cool
- Cameron Neylon
It would be interesting to see how well this could work for collaborations.
- Pedro Beltrao
Sounds like advanced email service, where the email message is "alive", wiki type collaboration is evolved. Email+Wiki+Twitter meshup. And the UI is really not that much googlish . Very eager to see it!
- Nenko Ivanov
from the article and slides, it looks like FF rooms with live chat functionality and extensibility. FF is almost there already. maybe the presentation video when available will explain any differences better
- Wladimir Labeikovsky
FF as it exists currently *looks* like the enterprise collaboration holy grail. Its only problem is that no one wants to buy into a closed service hosted externally. Even if Wave is nothing more than a free self-hostable Friendfeed it will still blow the doors off of E2.0.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
[NINJA EDIT] And by "no one" I mean "no Fortune 100 CIOs". I'm sure you guys at FF aren't out to sell directly to the enterprise yet, but it's my area of interest and I've been daydreaming about how awesome it would be to use FF as a part of my official workflow. I think Wave is more likely to get there given your current featureset versus their current vaporset.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
good point Daniel, i had somehow missed that Wave would be a Google App and thus amenable to self-hosting, etc
- Wladimir Labeikovsky
I understand Wave team's desire to integrate and leverage existing, accepted forms of communication and collaboration. But doesn't that also limit innovation? I'd love to see someone take a "blue sky" approach to the problem of business communication and collaboration, rather than build on existing models.
- Larry Hawes
I know it may seem hard to believe by watching all the crazy stuff they show in the video, but it's actually very easy to use. Click 'new wave', start typing, add a recipient. Or you can add a recipient first. So in some sense it's actually simpler than email, because there are a lot fewer opportunities to make irrevocable mistakes (like, oops, sent too early). I can't wait to be able to use it publicly.
- Joel Webber
Nenko, I think you've done a superb job of succinctly describing Wave. Or, at least my perception of Wave after using it for a month or so :). And one thing people should keep in mind: this has been in development for a long time, so it's not like three months ago, Google thought, "ZOMG! Must respond to [insert other service name here]" :-)
- Adam Lasnik
Daniel, if "FF as it exists currently *looks* like the enterprise collaboration holy grail," how do you explain to these enterprise folks, that anyone can edit and delete their past contributions after the fact, thus soiling the conversational record? Business can not be conducted in such conditions. Clearly, before being of use FF would need to "stratify" their basic types of collaborative primitives - beginning with non-editable posts and comments.
- ianf ⌘
I didn't mean "looks like" as in "feature complete" just "resembles". Lots of the latest and greatest parts of FF are features that would make any E2.0 toolkit much more powerful. The rooms and multi-threaded DMs are particularly sweet.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I can't see this being ready for the enterprise just yet, but sme's and startups definately. If they can also produce a mobile version for the iPhone and android markets it potentially is the next killer app.
- Keith Bennett
from BuddyFeed
ianf: "Business can not be conducted in such conditions." Are you kidding me? What about the telephone conversation. Business uses that just fine. It's one tool.
- Nick in Manila
It certainly wins on ease of use, but that's not enough in a business context. Accountability, being held to account, is. Truth be told, we really don't know if FFeeders paid any attention to enterprise use when originally designing it. Perhaps it can be evolved in this direction without lots of shouting, perhaps not. @Keith - FF is extremely text-input-centric. Neither of the two mobile devices is very good at this. But, fine, it does represent a step above even the most intelligent of mail/Gmail etc.
- ianf ⌘
Nick, there's a difference between telephone and print. As soon as text records are involved, there's the problem.
- ianf ⌘
ianf: Agree. It's not an auditable text record. But we've adapted to Wikipedia. It only takes you so far. You have accept it's not an absolute and use it for what you can.
- Nick in Manila
My problem with FF in the enterprise (and I try to use it that way) is the goofy name and logo.
- Nick in Manila
Wikipedia is a special case, but I have yet to hear of it being acceptable beyond colloquial use. FF is fine if treated as multi-threaded dialogue platform. Perhaps it's just me, but I always assumed that any heavy-duty business use presumes that a company runs it off its own/colo servers, not from platform-provider's own. We really don't know much of how FF works, but I suspect that...
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- ianf ⌘
ianf: Yes re enterprise use. But as the enterprise becomes more and more atomized, this will become less and less of an issue. Although that's not the immediate future of Fortune 100s - which gives a huge advantage to smaller co's.
- Nick in Manila
@ianf: There *is* an auditable record. Didn't you notice the part where they show how you can always go back through the history of a wave to see its edit history? Not only is it possible, but it's easy and only takes a few seconds. It's really useful for getting context on a large wave when you come into it late.
- Joel Webber
is there an app for that yet? :-)
- Chris Cotsapas
@Adam Lasnik I'm sure that Wave is not a respond to any existing service. At Google there are smart people thinking ahead and I think that wave is a step forward in personal and corporate comunication
- Nenko Ivanov
FriendFeed might actually benefit from Google Wave, see http://nicolas.lehuen.com/index...
- Nicolas Lehuen
Actually the platform looks like a response to Live Mesh and the product looks like a FF client powered by Gears but the interesting stuff is the protocol which could be used to bring consensus on how to, finally, implement track.
- Alberto Saavedra
Isn't that a bit premature to ask? Wave's just been announced, we don't know how FF will develop in few months' time, yet already now you want us to speculate whether some vaporware will be killerware of existingware rhetorical q.
- ianf ⌘
nope it isn't. i think this is the time for asking this.
- Yusuf Güzel
@Yusuf: I have to say I think the comparison is pretty inappropriate. The two products solve different problems completely. I use Wave at work, and even once it's fully open, I will continue to use FF, which I love as well. Besides, does the world really need another "Is X a Y killer?" poll?
- Joel Webber
@Yusuf: I have to say I think the comparison is pretty inappropriate. The two products solve different problems completely. I use Wave at work, and even once it's fully open, I will continue to use FF, which I love as well. Besides, does the world really need another "Is X a Y killer?" poll?
- Joel Webber
@Yusuf: I have to say I think the comparison is pretty inappropriate. The two products solve different problems completely. I use Wave at work, and even once it's fully open, I will continue to use FF, which I love as well. Besides, does the world really need another "Is X a Y killer?" poll?
- Joel Webber
Whoops, sorry for the triple-post. I obviously have some better error-handling to write.
- Joel Webber
lol @Joel - so exactly how good _are_ those robots..
- Nick Lothian
Glad I'm watching the Google Wave video. Much better than reading features on paper. I'm floored. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Jochen Lillich, KyleHase, Mark Evans and 21 other people liked this
I am soooooo floored. Especially how you can switch between IM / email on the fly.
- Drew Lucas
This is amazing man... first thing I've seen that could really replace email
- Bwana ☠
Broadband:dialup::Wave:email
- Bwana ☠
More than that, it's the proof that the real time web is the next big thing. And (if the server code's any good) they're making real time much easier to develop.
- invariant - farewell FF
And it's open sourced - huge win
- Bwana ☠
And it's a protocol - another win
- Bwana ☠
Federation is just mind boggling. Real time through two different servers, with private data stored only on the server the originating user belongs to.
- invariant - farewell FF
Still a long way off. :( I hope there is a private beta.
- Kevin Whalen
from email
All the participants are in the private beta...they got accounts
- Bwana ☠
Hopefully when it's released, we'll have hundreds of implementations to choose from
- Bwana ☠
Sign up at wave.google.com (but they're not giving accounts to anyone else yet). Think of a good haiku! :-)
- invariant - farewell FF
Bwana, I loved the entirely console based interface to the server in their demo.
- invariant - farewell FF
Yeah I signed up.
- Kevin Whalen
from email
This is great. I can't wait to play with it
- Bwana ☠
I watched about 75% of it. I'm having a nerdgasm all over my desk
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
LOL, I'm at the console part now... I'm drooling a bit... sorry
- Bwana ☠
And real-time translation was icing on the cake. I'm highly impressed Google and it ain't even done
- Bwana ☠
One word: Wow.
- Micah Wittman
Ok, plan for rest of day: 1) leave work, 2) get coffee, 3) feed kids, 4) put kids to bed, 5) WATCH Google Wave Preview!!!!
- Kevin Whalen
from email
Hello, glimpse of the future! Wow.
- Ňicķ
This looks so amazing. Must finish watching it later
- Rodfather
Papa John’s founder John Schnatter will give you $25,000 of his dough if you help him find the 1972 Z28 Camaro he sold to launch his pizza empire. http://www.ajc.com/metro...
Ufuk Kılıç, Andy Bakun, Chris Rossini and 6 other people liked this
BING!!!!!!!!!
johnpiercy, Lars Clausen, tony and 11 other people liked this
Hahaha
- Simon Wicks
great, now I'm going to have to prepare for a new round of Ned Reierson jokes whenever I meet new people.
- Ben Reierson
Ned Ryerson, FTW!
- Jim Hearts FF
Ned: Phil? Hey, Phil? Phil! Phil Connors? Phil Connors, I thought that was you! Phil: Hi, how you doing? Thanks for watching. [Starts to walk away] Ned: Hey, hey! Now, don't you tell me you don't remember me because I sure as heckfire remember you. Phil: Not a chance. Ned: Ned... Ryerson. "Needlenose Ned"? "Ned the Head"? C'mon, buddy. Case Western High. Ned Ryerson: I did the whistling...
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- Thomas Hawk
The Machine that Goes BING: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- sean andersen
Microsoft's announcement of Bing today shows they are magnitudes of order behind Google. Google moves one step towards knowing the user much better. Microsoft just improves search of "things", not people. The future is people, people! Microsoft I'm not sure gets that yet. Either that or they're way behind.
Matthew Blaisdell, Andrew Terry, Nicholas James and 30 other people liked this
Microsoft's announcement was simply a "our architecture is bad and we're fixing it" announcement. I fail to see the innovation.
- Jesse Stay
Soylent Wave Is Made Out of PEOPLE!
- Louis Gray
It'd be much more interesting to use have the live "feeds" be rolled up into searches, although I'm sure this is a much more difficult problem to solve. Streams from twitter, friendfeed, facebook etc should all be readily accessible through search. I think the content that people create is still probably more important than the person themselves...
- Chris Reichow
Chris, but to access *all* the content, and have less data to index, you want the people. The people own the content. It should be indexed by the people, not the content itself. A person owns content, not the other way around.
- Jesse Stay
Interesting note: "A person owns content" I'd certainly like to think this was true, but in today's world I think ownership is significantly diminished. Plus, who said anything about having less data to index, next-gen search needs to increase the available data and timeliness of that data exponentially. It's a tough problem
- Chris Reichow
Chris, with Wave you truly have the ability to own your content. Wave is a technology and protocol anyone can install on their own server, and it's open source. That which you want to stay on your own servers stays on your own servers - you have full control and Google never sees the data. Regarding next-gen search, it's much easier to index a lot more data when you have already indexed the people that own that data vs. indexing just the data.
- Jesse Stay
from email
Both announcements are important, I think, and they're too different to be considered together. Wave isn't about search. (Based on the short videos I've seen), Bing brings *context* and order to search; something that Google's search results appear to be lacking at the moment, and something that people will respond to if Bing lives up to the promise.
- Andrew Terry
Here's another reason not to dismiss Bing so quickly: http://friendfeed.com/media-n...
- Andrew Terry
YouTube - Google Wave Developer Preview at Google I/O 2009 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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ǝuǝƃnǝ, Peter Stuifzand, Krishna Gade and 17 other people liked this
Demo of Google Wave.
- Amit Patel
from Bookmarklet
Google Wave is the OpenDoc of Web 3.11 for Workgroups
- Amit Patel
What is this Google Wave that you speak of?
- Rob Schonberger
Ha ha Rob!
- Amit Patel
this is quite incredible, I can see google building social office onto of this.... Looks like they don't want to make money with this by selling wave servers to the enterprise as they plan to open- source the protocol... In that case MS will build exchange wave servers..,
- Krishna Gade
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