I am also extremely annoyed at the lack of moon and Mars habitats.
- Admiral Anika
m9m, Crone of FriendFeed didn't you see the first Star Trek feature film and Cronenburg's The Fly? ;) We want to operate within a higher "money-back guarantee" with possibility of survival % rates on travel.
- Melanie Reed
Not THAT kind of teleportation! The mind-control kind. Science is too iffy. I prefer Magik.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
m9m, Crone of FriendFeed - roflol I hear you. ;)
- Melanie Reed
"Cherrypal has released a device touted as the "world's first $99 laptop" and announced an upgrade to a previously released netbook. The "Africa" has a seven-inch display and runs Linux on a 400MHz ARM or MIPS processor, while the "Bing" has an Atom N280 and offers five hours of battery life."
- imabonehead
from Bookmarklet
"The Volkswagen Microbus is a classic - even to those of us born after its time. Arguably unlike the newly remade Beetle, this remake of a VW classic is remarkably true to the original on the outside - but on the inside it is a bio-diesel hybrid stuffed full of high tech gadgetry and eco-friendly innovations."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
Super cool VW Bus making a comeback...
- Walt Ruppar
First of all, I'll cop to wanting one of these. That being said, Jason is right. This is for rich hippies (who probably aren't hippies at all). The VW microbus became the darling of the Flower Power crowd because it was cheap, easy to repair, and big. You could camp in it. Is there a car today that fits this bill?
- Chris Baskind
wow, you can buy an awful lot of pot with $129,000.
- Thomas Hawk
I don't know a self-respecting hippie that would prefer this over a really nice indoor greenhouse. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
@Chris, Most cars today aren't as simple, but with the wealth of knowledge online, it just takes more time. The minivan/SUV can become a camper van with a few mods. They'll never take the place of the VW, but they're an updated version of the 70s panelvan conversions (hopefully without shag carpeting & a disco-ball).
- Steven Cains
Nope: there will never be anything that simple again. That's not all bad: I can't imagine a 1960s VW Minibus would satisfy *any* federal safety standard these days. You're right. A used minivan might be the closest thing.
- Chris Baskind
Very Cool. You can't drive your house but, you can sleep in your Van !!!
- Eric Logan
Very intriguing. How much steel is in that thing? Chris, that would be my next question after fuel consumption: how safe is this thing? And I agree, when we can go back to making transportation that costs less than a small home, we may have achieved something amazing. ;)
- Melanie Reed
However, I have heard (and I'm not remembering where at the moment) that there has been a movement growing of people seeking alternative housing and substituting things like this as the new "mobile" home.
- Melanie Reed
Everyone is loving this! We should have an FF one and use it to travel to all the FFers around the World (like Pea seems to be doing ;-)). Hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
cool idea, kol. the ff-stream of this tour would be alltheawe. just imagine the photos.
- esther ♥ ♫
I've owned 5 VWs, two of which were split window vans. I'd love to have another, this is awesome!
- Rick Bucich
from twhirl
I have had more VWs than other cars...starting with a 71 Superbeetle, and a Split Window Microbus. I would LOVE to have something like this.
- Kreg Steppe
Good for grandparents to visit grandchildren and children through the European continent (or another one as well)...nomadism-revival!
- Isabelle Ayel
wow i posted this a while back and now can't seem to find it for some reason. friendfeed's search function really sucks!
- Cee Bee
So after reading this article yesterday, I found myself this evening in front of a local place that specializes in reconditioning old VWs. It was closed, but there's an awesome red and white microbus out front with a For Sale sign on it. Ugly, underpowered -- and probably dangerous, by modern standards. Want. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
Cee, really? I find FF search is pretty good.
- Kol Tregaskes
I love this Mobile...owned a few Vdubs, lived in a VW camper, but this is off the hook..I would become a true nomad with this...
- bcultral
I'd like to have something like this, something small. What do you really need? A bed, perhaps a TV and room for your computer. Then you can live anywhere you like, in theory.
- Kol Tregaskes
Who is this Canadian designer Alexandre Verdier? Seems like he is on Facebook, Linked In but I can't seem to find anything else about him.
- Brian Sullivan
We had a wesvalia built Micro when I was a kid. I loved that thing. It was a little flimsily built; but boy it was perfect for my family of campers and road-tripping warriors. Too bad this one is so pricey
- Bill Rawlinson
So someone in *your* family doesn't grok Twitter either. My brother says he'll never even set up a Twitter account at all; he sees no point either. Apparently these people see the words "What are you doing?" above the text box and think it's nothing but the Facebook status update without Facebook. Some people just don't get it at all...
- Dennis Jernberg
In *my* family (asterisks per Dennis), most of them use Facebook. Nobody else uses Twitter at all.
- Louis Gray
Sure enough, Facebook is exactly what everybody in my family but me uses, too! Well, I'm on Facebook too, but I don't use it like they do. For one thing, I don't play any of the games; I hide them instead. And none of them has even heard of FriendFeed...
- Dennis Jernberg
hahaha that is epic!! Twittter got dissed by Ms Gray :D
- Susan Beebe
My family is the same. Twitter is pointless to them. There's so much more than just status updates to them.
- Jesse Stay
Well, I don't get Twitter either. Anyone want to explain it to me?
- Cristo
It's not fun when you sign up and have no friends / people to interact with...and all the interesting people only talk to each other. All my friends didn't "see a point" until they built their own network(s). Just sayin'
- Mona Nomura
My wife is also that way, btw - I may *just* be able to get her to join FourSquare though.
- Jesse Stay
As if Twitter is some brilliant thing that only a certain so-called tech crowd gets.
- Cristo
My sister has known that I've used Twitter for several years now. Whenever I brought it up, that was her reaction, "Don't get it. Don't see the point." She created an account a month or so ago and she's totally into it now. When I asked her what made the difference, she shrugged and said she wasn't sure. "Your friends started using it, didn't they?" I asked her. "Yes." heh. :D
- pea
Why don't you guys go have this conversation on Twitter? :)
- Cristo
Pfff. Cristo, you know full well twitter can't deal with the c word. :)
- Micah Wittman
I will make the bold prediction that most of my brothers and sisters will never join or use Twitter. I have one brother that does, occasionally, but the rest will never, ever use it. There's no point when they can get the same thing from Facebook and more.
- Jesse Stay
Re Mona: I myself didn't even bother to sign up for Twitter till this last June, when I discovered an existing online songwriting community I belong to had a Twitter presence. That's when I set up my account and started to use Twitter. Then I found that some of the NaNoWriMo offshoots I take part in also had a Twitter presence. That was the beginning. Since then I've built up a much...
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- Dennis Jernberg
my girlfriend has no interest in it either. she uses facebook for all her net communication needs and is quite happy...
- Terry O'Fee
I got all my friends to sign up for Twitter, all found it pointless. So, I really don't get the point either. I'll delete mine too. :D
- Faraz Mullick
Only a few of my real-life friends are even on Facebook, and the ones that are rarely update. The social web can be pretty disappointing sometimes.
- Michael Slattery
from iPhone
Most everyone I know is on Facebook now, with a few exceptions that refuse to use much of anything on the internet except for youtube and blogs. Nobody gets the point of twitter, especially with facebook/friendfeed offering the same type of communication options, if not more. However, the nice thing about twitter/friendfeed is that it's searchable. The other day I was watching the events from Fort Hood unfold on twitter. I couldn't do that easily on facebook. That's where twitter shines.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
My Second Life avatar started on Twitter in the good old days, when everyone you followed followed you back. But my real life account has about 20 followers, so it only really works as a reader - and that rocks.
- Michael Slattery
from iPhone
second life.. i read books like snow crash, get excited and find SL nothing like it ;)
- Terry O'Fee
If new users have no followers and fail to get the reader part, of course they stop. And the statistics confirm that.
- Michael Slattery
from iPhone
I do agree. It is really difficult to convince someone to use twitter. And even if I do, they don't stay active on the service. They too state "I don't see any point in the service". Often are the times when they are convincing me it is nothing but a blog platform with 140 characters limit.
- Amit
I've learned that it's not a good idea to try to convince friends to join Twitter. Unless they get it, they will simply annoy you with Facebook style Tweets. Better to seek out Twitter users who have learned the knack of posting interesting Tweets.
- Jimmy Walker
If she doesn't get it, or anyone else for that matter, be glad they're on their way. Twitter never worked for me either and I'm happily not participating as well.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I just realized I've been forgetting to tell them to start by following interesting people and not even think about posting their own tweets for the first little while (Robert's advice) - I wonder if that would make more of a difference.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
from iPhone
My 25 year old brother said the same thing.
- Rochelle
+Mona I think there is a follower critical mass that needs to be achieved (of real interacting/interesting people) before anyone 'gets' Twitter
- JSNFLMNG
from iPod
I see Twitter as another information portal, and a social channel (albeit limited). For those things it's great. I don't use facebook all that much, but it's good to chat with old friends to say howdy and share current happenings. I'm me no matter what social hub I'm on, but the local laws/rules/community etiquette fits my preferences better in some virtual hangouts.
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
My daughter of about the same age also got and shortly thereafter canceled a twitter account.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Twitter is useful as a minimalist news broadcasting system. Twitter is worse than useless as a medium for conversation. I mostly use Twitter in combination with Topsy searches to pluck off the most interesting news stories of the day on selected topics. Without Topsy, I would stop using Twitter entirely because of the information overload.
- Sean McBride
Mona's point is pretty much spot on. I kind of "imported" a Revision 3 forum network into Twitter, which led to FriendFeed, which had sort of a recursive bend back into Twitter, which led to finding Twitter recommendations, which then opened me up to following people from IRL, and then...ah crap. I've stopped using Twitter as much, though, because Facebook is where the people I CARE about really are. And in case you're wondering, I'm friends with Mona on Facebook ;)
- Mike Nayyar
I've hit a wall trying to get my friends to sign up for Twitter. It's like they've got an image issue. Whenever I try to explain it's value for news and as RSS replacement, people sort of stop listening. They're left thinking it's Facebook without the "fun stuff," which is lesser and redundant for them.
- Jeremiah Green
Is it fair to say that the tweets related to tech news that some folks think are so wonderful and important are primarily links to web sites, blogs, new articles, and so on produced by someone other than the tweeter? So far as I've seen, subscribing to, say, all the employees of a company doesn't produce much news about the company; instead you see posts about where the employees ate lunch and stuff like that. Of course I may just not be looking at the right people.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Unless you have a defined business strategy, there really is not much point to Twitter, unless you just want to connect for fun, which is under my business strategy :)
- Steve Borgman
Actually I don't see the point either, but I'm still here :)
- scott willeke
I keep a Twitter account just for a case of emergency, because it gets translated everywhere, and their mobile client is the lightest.
- 9000
I have all three FB, FF and Twitter - FB is for people I know personally save very few exceptions, FF & Twiiter overlap and are people I tend to follow but I dont know from adam - I prefer FF tho . I now have GW as of last night but am still struggling to get the hang of it- will lose my twitter acct I think
- viki saigal
SuezanneC has summed twitter up quite well. None of my family use twitter, took me ages to 'get it' but although my family all use Facebook, I don't like it. I stay to keep in touch with them.
- Sandra Large
It is very hard to keep motivated with all the bots, spam, ads, slaves and etc. Don't feel bad if you make mistakes because this is a new thing that is evolving underneath the feet of everyone on it. Like a quick sand that none of my family understand and I'm finding month to month that the growth of twitter it is getting more chaotic and the numbers of fake profiles is increasing, but...
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- Christopher Scott Ostini
No, it's different, Karoli. I've also used it a bit, and it's more of a "universal inbox" than FriendFeed. It's just a client, rather than a stand-alone service.
- Ken Sheppardson
Is there a recording of the Tim Berners-Lee conversation somewhere?
- Mike Doeff
thanks, Ken. It's one of those services that definitely interests me...if I ever get in. :)
- Karoli
Nick: I still use RSS too. Saying something is dead is dead.
- Robert Scoble
We individually kill and give life to things every day. I don't use Google Reader much anymore, for instance. So to me Google Reader is dead.
- Robert Scoble
I used to think I'd want a universal inbox, but stuff like Threadsy have reminded me that I really want different "layers"/urgency in my inbox, e.g. SMS > IM > email
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert, I still use Google Reader...but only when what I'm seeing on Twitter/Friendfeed doesn't feel balanced to me. I can usually get that balance by going back to GR.
- Karoli
Karoli: lists will bring that balance to Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
Ken, I'd definitely need filters or I'd just run away from the inbox screaming...
- Karoli
I still use GR - but I have about 10 feeds - the rest I get supplied by Twitter/TweetMeme
- Nick Halstead
the issue i have with tweetmeme, etc is how easily the echo chamber develops. I love it, but want to reach outside of it for info sometimes.
- Karoli
Karoli: I agree - the core categories will always be full of the echo/main crowd - but we will soon launch the ability for you to build your own channels that are filtered to your 'exact' requirements
- Nick Halstead
Used Threadsy 2 weeks ago, and okay concept, needs work still.
- JimmyJet
In the demo yesterday, Microsoft claimed that their Bing/Twitter search results filter out spam and surfaces quality results based on "social relevance"
- Mike Doeff
because it's a beta for a few 1000s....wait for lists to be rolled out...
- Antonella Stellacci
Mike, they're weighting it based on some kind of authority?
- Karoli
so "normal" people don't want to find new friends who share their interests?
- Jerome Hughes
Whatever it is, it's got to work for 'normal' people.
- Cliff Gerrish
@mikedoeff: Who decides "social relevance"? @Scobleizer Who is to say that this "social relevance' will be a democratic system? How can we prevent a new SUL/TechCrunch to happen, with people being disqualified for having "different" views?
- Antonella Stellacci
They called it "social relevance" but didn't really drill into what that means. Maybe some combination of # of followers, number of tweets, age of the account, verified status, etc.
- Mike Doeff
When will "normal" people get access to Twitter lists? I don't have it on my account. I might start using Twitter if I did.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ah...there's the 'track' ref. It's like coming home. :)
- Karoli
Yeah, I'm not one of the cool kids who get the lists feature on Twitter. :)
- Karoli
Potential issue with Twitter lists: Someone posts a list of CIO's. Sales rep's from Oracle, SAP, etc. use that list to pitch their products to those CIO's with @messages or DM's. Or they could find all of the people inside a company by finding a company list. It'll be like a free version of Jigsaw.
- Mike Doeff
lists =meta-data....so discovery of new users is one of the options...
- Antonella Stellacci
@mike u can DM a list? (sry for the stupid question, I don't have lists :(
- Antonella Stellacci
Is there convergence on a standard for lists, or is it too early?
- Cliff Gerrish
I wonder which will win out: sending stuff out to specified groups/audiences, or just sending stuff out to "everyone", and having whatever permissions you've assigned to specific people determine whether or not they see it. I guess it's the same thing. Nevermind. ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Antonella, you can't DM a list but it's an easy way to collect twitter id's in a specific niche. You can go down the list and follow people individually.
- Mike Doeff
Robert, I agree - would be a very bad move if PR firm, sales people, etc. abuse the lists features. They'll end up on a PR Twitter blacklist :)
- Mike Doeff
It centralizes with the user -- not with the services. This ties in to the purpose-centric web and the sidewiki discussion.
- Cliff Gerrish
So Threadsy isn't a service? Where's the line between services and clients?
- Ken Sheppardson
So will we see search come to Threadsy streams?
- JimmyJet
Robert: Click on your entry, click "Edit > Disable Comments"
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: no. I want my curation to be public. Arnie: Wave could be useful.
- Robert Scoble
Ken: if I turned off comments I won't have the ability to type anything underneath the item.
- Robert Scoble
Arnie: Wave would be useful if it weren't stuck in the very lame email metaphor.
- Robert Scoble
But is that all you want to do? Be able to add comments to your post without other people being able to do so? I'm a little confused...
- Ken Sheppardson
Arnie: Wave is something I'm watching a lot.
- Robert Scoble
Ken: I want to curate and put it on MY OWN STREAM. Without you being there.
- Robert Scoble
..or you want to use FriendFeed as a text editor?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: FriendFeed doesn't work for what I want.
- Robert Scoble
Wave traps me...I want the ability to opt out of specific waves.
- Karoli
Ken: Private groups don't do what I want. I want a public curation where everyone can watch JUST ME.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Would "only let me comment on this entry" do it?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: very close. But now we need to go further. Let me post a video there. An audio there. A picture there. And bring in other tweets and items.
- Robert Scoble
The reality is that no one's interested in 'only scoble' -- everyone wants to create their own mix.
- Cliff Gerrish
Robert: So... a room where only admins (i.e. you) can post and comment, but everyone can view?
- Ken Sheppardson
Cliff: absolutely not true. My blog proves you wrong.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I'm only interested in certain posts from your blog. I don't need the whole stream. You're in my mix, you just don't know it.
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff: and to rub salt in a wound. Twitter proves you wrong.
- Robert Scoble
Every time Steve says, "Rob?" - I start to answer :)
- Rob La Gesse
Cliff: that's cool. So you are listening to a group curation then.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: That's a pretty minor incremental fix, I'd think. Right now there are three types of rooms 1) Private, 2) Standard only admins can post, anyone can comment, 3) Public. Seems like a fourth type where only admins can post/comment but everyone can view would be pretty easy.
- Ken Sheppardson
Hope Threadsy has security for the UN's/PW's they require for each service??
- JimmyJet
Scoble, yes. I use a microcommunity to filter items -- not full feeds.
- Cliff Gerrish
Ken: even easy stuff takes engineering time.
- Robert Scoble
Threadsy in Chrome gets a basic auth pop up from twitter.com for my API credentials every time it tries to access Twitter :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Cliff: I know. I have seen this. Sort of like how TechMeme works.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Sure, but asking Paul to add a fourth room type sure seems easier than casting out some general lazyweb request for curation tools ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Scoble, techmeme is read only. This is a little different.
- Cliff Gerrish
Ken: FriendFeed has no engineering team working on many new features. I've already asked for new features. I've been asking for this stuff for years.
- Robert Scoble
Ken: Threadsy in Chrome (4): I am no longer getting a request to relog or give permission to twitter. refreshing auto like it should
- amarquart
Does Facebook still prevent developers from caching data for more than 24hrs?
- Ken Sheppardson
Threadsy seems to define the pipe that exists between services. The Oauth issue is critical -- it comes bak to identity.
- Cliff Gerrish
Ken: Windows is Amazon's top seller. I want to be dead like that.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble, we are already giving curated content e.g. this channel that is defined by 20 of the top Twitterati - http://twitterati.tweetmeme.com/ - soon these channels can be built by anyone
- Nick Halstead
Ok - i didnt get in on this till now - will it be archived?
- Chris Jackson
Yeah, it'll be published to YouTube in a day or so.
- Cliff Gerrish
Nick: that's not really what I want?
- Robert Scoble
RSS?? (which we all know is dead, ..but still); mp3 ?? Steve, I understand your effort to make a point by inconveniencing us with lack of rss, I get it, but from that stage further it is just pain in the a**.
- Mindaugas Dagys
Fascinating. The blind could possibly use this as a way to check out what things look like before they purchase from an online retailer.
- Blake Sinnett
Totally agree with you Kevin. I'm in *love* with my iPhone, but after using the latest BlackBerry and Android units, I can honestly say that the gap isn't as big as it once was.
- Ambar Pansari
The only thing the iphone has going for it that others dont is the fully stocked app store and 'keeping up with the joneses' momentum. Other phones beat it feature for feature otherwise, and while it's true that apple has been adding features to the iPhone, most of those features have been standard on other platforms for years.
- veo
Interesting as usual, the ecosystem is set to explode with the Listing API and curation is what everyone needs to be working on. Nice to hear more opinions about status updates converging and reading lists trending, as the potential issues with proxy rights to link data and a Facebook App Store. Looking forward for the transcript.
- Alberto Saavedra
They seem reasonably comfortable -- April wears hers all over the place. I only wear them when running, but it seems easier than regular shoes. Yup, toe socks. Here's what happened last time though ("classics" with no socks): http://friendfeed.com/paul...
- Paul Buchheit
Just watch out - they provide no protection in the front. I stubbed my pinky toe and broke it. Still not fully healed, 2+ months later
- Paul Haahr
from iPhone
Well, I'm often in flip-flops or barefoot much of the time, so it's probably not much worse on the protection front. What did you kick?
- Paul Buchheit
A curb. Flip-flops and sandals usually stick out a bit in front of your toes, so I found the vibrams more dangerous. Versus barefoot, I hadn't internalized that they weren't shoes sufficiently.
- Paul Haahr
from iPhone
Ouch. If I understand "barefoot style" running though (and I probably don't), your feet should be dragged forward, not kicked forward (momentum vs muscle), which should also lower impact if I do accidentally kick something.
- Paul Buchheit
Shades of Tellman Knudson at runtellmanrun.com . He's running barefoot 3000+ miles across the US, New York To L.A. You guys have some tough soles man. LOL
- j damon brown
I've been running in Five Fingers since the spring. I'm still not up to my previous mileage in them, but I can do 15mi/week very comfortably (and much faster).
- Drew Raines
Haahr: I hear you on the toe exposure. I've had good luck with these running sandals, great for collapsed arches: http://bit.ly/4wRoNE . I've really wanted to try the Vibram Fivefingers though.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
"Most men will develop prostate cancer if they live long enough. However, most prostate cancers are very slow growing and usually do not kill the patient. A man with prostate cancer generally dies of some other cause long before the prostate cancer becomes life threatening. Therefore, the PSA test diagnoses many cases of prostate cancer that do not need to be treated as well as a few cases of prostate cancer that are very aggressive. Not only is there no benefit to diagnosing the slow growing prostate cancers, but there seems to be very little benefit to diagnosing the aggressive cancers early, since some do not respond to treatment even when administered in the early stages. The second study, Screening and Prostate-Cancer Mortality in a Randomized European Study, showed a very small decrease in deaths associated with PSA screening. That decrease came at a very high price: To prevent one prostate-cancerdeath, 1410 men (or 1068 men who actually underwent screening)would have to be screened, and an additi"
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
How do you know if they benefited Chris? The point of such studies it to see what would have happened if they were never screened, the the evidence in this article suggests that they would have most likely been better off (no unnecessary surgery), though it's probably worth doing a little more reading before assuming that this article presents the best available evidence.
- Paul Buchheit
This is very important piece of research, great share. Is it going to change policy?
- WorldofHiglet
People should be aware that a similar study conducted in Europe about the same time as this one showed a 20% reduction in mortality for people who received PSA screenings. (Sorry, no link—I heard it on NPR last night.)
- Mistletoe Glen
IMHO there's a pretty serious logical disconnect between "Don't get screened for prostate cancer" and "To prevent one prostate-cance rdeath, 1410 men would have to be screened". How much does a test cost, by the way?
- Ken Sheppardson
@glenc: if their numbers is close to the ones in this study, it means the reduction of mortality at at tune of about .5% of those treated. Too bad this article doesn't quote any numbers for serious side-effects
- Лосось норвежской выделки
@cristoblanco: that's basically what they say (w/o the numbers, though) the chance of associated troubles is much more significant than that of life-saving
- Лосось норвежской выделки
@chris: if loss of sexual function is the only side effect, that might be true. Besides, the study is not 'anti-treatment', but 'anti-screening'. They don't object to treating those who have been diagnosed with prostate cancer 'normally'
- Лосось норвежской выделки
This is a public policy argument, not a guide to individual action. You can see this here: "there seems to be very little benefit to diagnosing the aggressive cancers early, since some do not respond to treatment even when administered in the early stages.". That may well be true overall, but I'd much be tested, and if necessary treated, to take a chance on a full recovery, even where 'some' do not respond.
- Stan Scott
I seem to recall discussing a similar issue with Paul some years ago regarding mammography.
- Gabe
The side-effects for screening are minimal. The PSA is a blood test that can be done along with other screenings (like cholesterol). I do these anyway and plan to keep on getting PSA tests.
- Leo Laporte
A very poor and ill informed article. Too many men are still diagnosed too late in stage IV disease and last 12-18 months. It is a fallacy to think it is slow growing in all patients.
- Sally Church
It is scientific fact that those diagnosed early with any cancer are more likely to receive surgery and be cured. The watchful waiting approach favoured by many PCPs is not always the best approach. My own father was diagnosed in stage III and in 18 months he was dead. Ignorant doctors are one of my biggest pet peeves. They should re-train every 10 years to keep current.
- Sally Church
Hmmmmm interesting <note to self> get screened real soon -]
- Chris Loft
Sally, I think the point is that being cured doesn't necessarily prevent you from dying. A large number of people who are cured of cancer wouldn't have died from it anyway.
- Gabe
Isn't the lesson here, don't get treated for prostate cancer? It seems a misnomer to focus on screening. Why not just get screened once a year and then operate if it seems like it is becoming a problem?
- Kevin Fischer
Kevin, the lesson is don't get treated if the cancer isn't likely to kill you.
- Gabe
Those stats are focusing on general screening. Obviously, a doc should factor in risk and symptoms. I will say it is a little harder to hear this if you have a loved one who died of prostate cancer.Now, I am waiting for the up and coming salivary diagnostic tests - much easier and less expensive, making the cost differential less of a factor. Just grab a gob of spit and test for everything!
- Patricia F. Anderson
The supposed problem is that the expense of the screening, but the side-effects of treatment, which can apparently be worse than a slow-growing tumor and useless against a fast growing one. What is needed is better treatment.
- Paul Buchheit
Gabe, that's a very simplistic view. Many do die from prostate cancer so taking the no treatment approach doesn't help everyone.
- Sally Church
the conclusion of the research article seems to be that PSA screening is ineffective - a meaningful improvement wasn't found
- Mike Chelen
One of the rumours going round was that Jason and Mike had a blazing row - or series of rows - and their relationship is virtually destroyed
- Mark
Indeed Feldman claims they have agreed not to work together in the future on TC
- Mark
that's kind of surprising given that they both seem like such friendly, gentle, easy-going fellows.
- Christian Crumlish
Hey Robert. I'd be up there at TC50 if I had the investment money I needed to finish the freaking site. My company made 2nd tier but I couldn't get the site done in time. Email me if you want to chat more about it adam@adam-jackson.net
- Adam Jackson
"At the time, psychologists assumed that children’s ability to wait depended on how badly they wanted the marshmallow. But it soon became obvious that every child craved the extra treat. What, then, determined self-control? Mischel’s conclusion, based on hundreds of hours of observation, was that the crucial skill was the “strategic allocation of attention.” Instead of getting obsessed with the marshmallow—the “hot stimulus”—the patient children distracted themselves by covering their eyes, pretending to play hide-and-seek underneath the desk, or singing songs from “Sesame Street.” Their desire wasn’t defeated—it was merely forgotten. “If you’re thinking about the marshmallow and how delicious it is, then you’re going to eat it,” Mischel says. “The key is to avoid thinking about it in the first place.” In adults, this skill is often referred to as metacognition, or thinking about thinking, and it’s what allows people to outsmart their shortcomings. (When Odysseus had himself tied to...
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- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
This is an interesting quote because it implies that "will power" is more about mental strategy, not some kind of mental strength for forcing yourself to do something. I have the same strategy with food -- I eat whatever I see, so in order to not eat something I just need to put it out of sight.
- Paul Buchheit
effectively "out of sight, out of mind"
- alphaxion
This is where the magic of science is: you spend time and resources to prove a proverb.
- .i.m.a.r.s.o.r.a.m.a.
"The child who could wait fifteen minutes had an S.A.T. score that was, on average, two hundred and ten points higher than that of the kid who could wait only thirty seconds."
- J.D. Deutschendorf
Sometimes I worry my metacognition is slowing me down because I'm spending less time just cogniting. (that oughtta be a word.) But no, in all seriousness, I think something, then realize the thought was there before I subvocalized it, and then I go in a circle several times subvocalizing those same thoughts as I examine the process of thinking. Frustrating!
- Andrew C
Some friends and I refer to this study often, pointing out when we've failed the marshmallow test. Staying up late is my most common mashmallow test failure (sacrificing morning time to enjoy a few more bleary hours NOW), but it's easy to spot this sort of behavior and fun to have a standard vocabulary to highlight its ubiquity.
- Seth
As a parent, I consciously used this strategy to distract my children whenever they got in mischief, behaved badly or acted out. As a grandparent, I often send a box of tricks, things like super balls, an "uno" deck, paints, a book, a yoyo or top, for my daughter to use with my grandchildren when they are driving her crazy and need to think about something other than running around screaming.
- Phil Boiarski
OK, that makes sense, but let's flip this on its head - How do you instead keep your mind on something and prevent yourself from getting distracted? You can't distract yourself from your distractions. Andrew C, the word you're looking for is cogitating.
- Mr. Gunn
Mr Gunn, thanks. Though I think 'cogniting' is a touch funnier.
- Andrew C
Some chimpanzees use this strategy as well, though not all of them.
- Björn Brembs
i think bhudda had some theory on this too...:/
- Paul Moss
I'm going to marshmallow-train my kids!!
- Jess Lee
Today my 4yo daughter was having trouble waiting for a treat, so I told her (and my wife) about reading this article last night. I talked about the ability to distract - and I thought I was doing a pretty good job of explaining it in 4yo terms. When I was done with my paraphrase/lesson, I asked her if she understood. "Uh-huh," she said. Then after a few moments, she asked if we could stop and get some marshmallows on the way home. All I could do is laugh!
- Gary Walter (gwalter)
I read a different writeup of this experiment a couple years ago, when our daughter was about 1 year old. Its something that can be taught, and encouraged. She's now very good at distracting herself from something which she knows she shouldn't do or would get into trouble over. She's not easily distracted in general: she can focus quite well on something she wants to do (and is allowed to do).
- DGentry
I support a ban on text messaging while driving. I oppose it being done at the Federal Level. It is a state issue per the Constitution of the United States 10th Amendment.
- Jim Beall
I find it difficult to see how such common sense can be opposed in any way! It's as dangerous as drink driving - maybe even more so given the reach of mobile/cell phone ownership.
- GadgetGuy
How in the heck can you text while driving anyway? This strikes me as unnecessary over-regulation. I have no doubt that people have done it and even gotten into accidents because of it, but is it really such a common problem that we need specific legislation to prevent it?
- Otto
Otto: Seriously, at least half the cars I pass on the road in Texas are on the phone and a large percentage of those (that I see) are not talking but texting. Texting means neither your mind nor your eyes are on the road. Neither are ideal for safe roads.
- 1x29
OneGear: Your evidence is wholly anecdotal. "I saw it, so it happens". The problem is that your evidence is subject to this thing we call "selection bias". You say "at least half". Really? I mean, think about what you're saying here. You're saying that at any given moment, fully 50% of the drivers in Texas are using cell phones. Is that really true, or is that just because you remember the ones you see using phones and don't remember the ones you see not using phones?
- Otto
I say that for a law to be passed banning the practice, we need unbiased statistics proving that it's enough of a problem to actually institute penalties, fines, and other laws surrounding the practice. Otherwise we're just adding to the bureaucracy for no reason. Do we have actual real statistical information on how many auto accidents there are caused by people texting? Note that I'm...
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- Otto
Otto: I come from the UK where it is illegal to text or be on your phone talking (unless via hands free) so I'm used to far, far less phone usage while driving. Maybe this makes the usage in Texas all the more noticable for me. For sure my statistics are not scientific - did you really think they were? but in my daily commute I never fail to see a fair proportion of the cars driving in...
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- 1x29
Let's draw a comparison with wearing seatbelts - for which there is a law. Personally, as a fellow road user and father of two, I'd rather you go about your driving day without you're belt on than texting while driving. There have been some horrific accidents in the UK of drivers ploughing into the back of other [often static] traffic because they have been texting. I'm not sure we need...
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- 1x29
I personally have no problem with people talking on the phone while driving. That is an example of a law that I think should not exist. Ditto seat belt laws. But I just don't see enough texting to think that it's really an issue. This is why I want statistical data before I can support it. And yes, I think we *do* need statistics to merit it, because one or two incidents are...
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- Otto
Also, the whole "one is enough" mentality is absolutely foolish. Such a law won't save anybody, it'll become a revenue source for the local governments. Just like the seat belt law, they'll put "no seat belt" or "texting" on every single ticket in order to increase revenue. It does nothing but increase incentive for cops to pull people over and lie about the incident, because that is...
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- Otto
Otto: "Such a law won't save anybody..." Texting while driving increases risk - if people are not looking where they are driving, it has to. I understand you might have issues with police officers and enforcement of laws, but on the question of texting while driving and it's potential to cause accidents, whether you were wearing a seatbelt or not when you were pulled over for whatever...
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- 1x29
Otto, since you are opposed to laws banning talking on cell phones while driving, may I ask if you are also against drunk-driving laws? The statistics demonstrate that the two cause a similar decrease in driving ability. While I agree with you that laws alone do not solve problems, to me that calls for additional efforts beyond mere lawmaking, as opposed to just ignoring the problem. If...
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- Lo
"Texting while driving increases risk" - This may be true but a) you have yet to prove that fact with valid statistical information, b) making laws against a behavior does not curb the behavior (I refer you to the "war on drugs"), and c) making laws when you cannot even show increased risk is a rather poor way to legislate, don't you think? I want laws that actually, you know, DO SOMETHING. Effective laws. Wouldn't it make sense to actually analyze the problem instead of passing laws based on conjecture?
- Otto
Also, yes, I'm opposed to drunk driving laws. They don't stop people from driving drunk, they merely provide for monetary punishment for those who do drive drunk. Taking away their licenses has no impact, because they'll simply drive without the license. It's a short step from breaking one law to breaking multiple laws. A better solution would be to provide incentives to sober drivers,...
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- Otto
why not prohibit any sort of cell-phone use that isn't via a hands-free? I haven't read the law but if their objective is really to only punish texting, then how can someone tell if I was really texting or not? In that sense the law would be too vague since it could be applied arbitrarily.
- David Rodriguez
Otto, I'm an alcoholic and I can assure you that drunk driving laws definitely do stop people from driving drunk, though certainly not all people. Drunk driving and its associated legal problems are the main reason my kind get it together in the end. And while you are correct that no one has presented statistics in this forum, that does not support your apparent assumption that these...
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- Lo
David, you make an excellent point. If I were world dictator it would be illegal to talk on phones while driving, period. But people are so ridiculously attached to both cars, phones, and a sense of self-importance that even I can see that's a lost cause at this time.
- Lo
David: Yeah, I don't understand just the texting thing. I accept that talking on a phone is less risky than texting. In the UK there's just a ban on using a phone unless it's on a hands free kit.
- 1x29
@Lo @Adrian: The way I see it, if a policeman stops you, one could say: "but officer I wasn't texting, I was just dialing a number because I have an emergency". The officer checks the law..."hmm, it says here no texting, but nothing about calling, well off you go" or he could fine you when you really weren't texting (which is more likely). In that sense the law lends itself to be...
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- David Rodriguez
I also read an article that for many people it isn't handling the wheel with one hand or texting what distracts them but the fact that you are talking via a phone instead. It said that talking with someone through a phone demands more from the brain than talking with them in person because your mind tends to imagine or conjure up the image of the person you are talking to. Someone who...
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- David Rodriguez
If it is revenue raising, fine. I have no problem getting people losing money, or indeed their licence, when they are sharing the road with others while not being in full control of their vehicle. And you just know with smartphones there are drivers out there using their phone while driving to do far more distracting things than talk or text. And for god's sake, how can you possibly...
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- GadgetGuy
Plus Trapster works in Virginia and DC. . . legally.
- Dave Roth
I'm loading it right now. The map for my local area is very accurate. I can't wait to see what it can do on the road. Thanks for the tip Robert:)
- Michael Fidler
Trapster is a great idea, but I found it to be highly inaccurate.
- Otto
from iPhone
My Trapster was going off over Labor Day Weekend - and the alert can be startling, at first! (It's a siren). I've found the freshly reported alerts the most accurate.
- Kurt Starnes
Cool. Nice to know there's a webOS version coming
- Rodfather
love the idea, been thinking of similar thing like alerting the phone owners off the police parties/speed traps ahead, its an application i was thinking of a messaging system. whenever a motorist approaches the speed trap or traffic cops could be alerted via a flash message, and i wanted it to work on all GSM phones, a user could report the traffic cops to a number which would then alert the motorists going in that direction, it would require the use of a lot of hardware but it was just an idea
- testbeta
Thanks Pete for the service and thanks Scoble for letting us know
- testbeta
Or you could just, you know, drive at the speed limit?
- Bryce Roney
from IM
I wonder how the info is provided. If it comes from the police, I am not sure they would divulge the true locations.
- Brent - Loving Life
Have to say, agree with @Bryce You could always do the safe and responsible thing and drive safely in the first place. From someone who got 'done' 3 times as a kid, I now stick closely to the limits. Less stressful as a whole.
- ImJustCreative
from twhirl
Why as adults are you condoning the use of information that makes us act recklessly? Not the best bit of social media influence and advice I have seen.
- ImJustCreative
from twhirl
@imjustcreative @bryce Yep agree would be really nice to hear about the guy that killed someone while checking his anti-radar iphone app <sarcasm
- roger byrne
Pha, old hat. This stuff has been available to Sat Nav users forever. I have this on TomTom on my Palm LifeDrive, it's a simple database of camera locations with GPS coordinates. Move along, nothing to see here.
- Gilbert Harding
gilbert: it is now at a wide level, and Roger: this application speaks so no need to look at the screen
- testbeta
@gilbert Oh thats sooo much better now, now its only some ppl getting killed because of ppl playing the system <real big sarcasm
- roger byrne
Here's' a thought for you Roger. There have been some serious accidents in the UK because of people suddenly slowing down when they see a speed camera up ahead. Causing the vehicle behind to ram into them. Now you could blame both, or just the guy behind for not paying attention or going a bit too quick. But if both of them had some advance warning of the camera, I leave you to...
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- Gilbert Harding
Gilbert your trying to justify something that promotes illegal activities either way you cut it. If the people weren't speeding they wouldn't have to slow down for speed cameras...so in the end its the speed thats killing not cameras or radars!
- roger byrne
Roger: it is just to avoid those traffic checkpoints, nobody wants to be handed a ticket for whatever reason it is, these things help it makes people extra cautious and i would praise the guy(pete) behind it
- testbeta
Roger The official line on the purpose of the cameras is to slow traffic to the posted speed limit. Therefore they do the job and would continue to do so if every driver knew their locations. All that would change is the revenue stream from the cameras.
- Gilbert Harding
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- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
I am FOR this, 100%. Nothing really matters. Anyone can see. Nothing really matters...to me. Ergo, if it's shiny, I'm for it. More fun that way. Y'all can drive 600 miles an hour and burn for all I care. Or not. Point is, all of you law-abiding do-gooders are only protecting an extortion-based government revenue stream system.
- Will Conley
where can I get in the beta for the Palm Pre version of Trapster?
- Matt Kurio
@will good point. More folks would drive the speed limit if cops pulled you over to give you a fistful of cash.
- barce
from iPhone
He took time to hang them as you wanted, my God!
- Phil Jeudy