Lessee...our total today was..$38ish. But that includes a bottle of wine and 3 lbs of honey.
- Kirsten
We're back to two markets a week (Livermore Thursday nights run mid-May through mid-October). Thursday was, I think, around $20; today will be (I'll guess) around $35...plus fish. (Last Sunday was $75, but most of that was a big hunk o'salmon.) But hey: We're into stone fruit season, so it's all good. (And our supermarket bill is relatively small.)
- Walt Crawford
tell me about this cheese... (i live beside a farmer's market. it kills me. in a good way.)
- jambina
farmers markets are truly dangerous places
- DJF
from Android
I gotta kitten and a macaron. $2.
- Laura H.
from iPhone
Dammit, are kittens in season? I didn't see any. Stupid farmer's market.
- Meg V. Meg
The cheese is soft, spreadable "farmer's cheese" from my favorite dairy in the whole wide world: http://www.ronnybrook.com/ though their website doesn't mention this as a product (IT'S AMAZING)
- Meg V. Meg
omg, it says you can visit their farm!
- Meg V. Meg
I'm on research leave. I get to cook and clean and exercise and receive packages from UPS, not to mention the awesome research part. I assume this is what heaven is like.
right? GIMME ALL THE TATERS. :) we are having friends over this weekend, and this is the food we are doing. we are providing the potatoes, everyone else is bringing toppings/sides/dessert.
- holly #ravingfangirl
OH. and I am getting the balsamic strawberry rhubarb sauce out of the freezer. :D :D :D
- holly #ravingfangirl
Have you ever had bbq pulled pork on a baked potato? I'd have that if I ever did a potato bar.
- Starmama
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I had a feeling this was gonna happen. Congrats! :D
- Colette
Stay tuned; we'll still be doing a public ceremony/celebration, but it probably wont be until next fall. We were impatient and in lurv ;)
- ωαřмaiden ❤Marrit Woman❤
Strange craving for a grilled peanut butter, banana, and bacon sandwich. How does that happen? The only ingredient I even have for it is butter, for the frying.
Before his recent performance in the fifth-grade version of The Tempest, I told Luke, "break a leg." Before slamming the door he yelled back "I hope you snap your neck!" Really got in the spirit of the superstition there.
- Steele Lawman
apropos of nothing, but that site uses too many colors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... Though it does make the US look like Skittles and Skittles are delicious.
- Mark Trapp
Isn't there some math proof about the minimum number of colors needed in a map to guarantee that no two adjacent regions will have the same color?
- Stephen le Francoeur
I can't be certain, because I don't remember the exact colors and states, but I get the sense that the online map is trying to mimic a particular kind of color-in-the-states map that people used to (still do?) stick to the side of their RV/camper thing and fill in as they drive around. We saw a LOT of these on our epic cross-country road trip in the early 80s. EDIT: ah ha! http://www.signsoflife.net/rv-trav...
- Catherine Pellegrino
to get tired of them, so we don't have to use them anymore?
- Meg V. Meg
as far as I can tell, discovery layers exist to create conference talks about discovery layers
- Pete #TeamMonique
Discovery layers exist because we're convinced undergrads are too stupid to learn how to use the real databases.
- Zamms
Or maybe we're too lazy to use real databases anymore?
- kendrak
or maybe small pots of data are less useful than larger pots of data to explore against?
- awd
We're holding onto the dream of federated search.
- Zamms
We should create a conference about how to create conference presentations about discovery layers.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
"federated" was doomed from the start... response times take too long without holding the indexes locally -- and if you'r eholding the indexes closely, you may as well integrate them into one master index to rule them all with 3 or 7 or 9 subindicies that mkae sense depending on the data supplied in the original indexing
- awd
It's not that undergrads are too stupid, it's that they're too busy. But for a thesis omg yeah.
- Deborah Fitchett
Or maybe discovery layers are appealing partially because database interfaces suck? We should push to fix the systems we pay for instead of agreeing to buy more systems to stick over the top. (Side eye to Sierra, which I'm fairly sure we're going to get.)
- kaijsa
I really should try writing a thesis with just summon, eds etc think it's doable in some fields if you willing to go deep and use other techniques. *ducks*
- aarontay
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It's not that Summon doesn't give you lots of good results; it's that you can't rely on it to give you *exhaustive* results, and for a thesis literature review you really need to make sure you've covered all your bases. Maybe some fields it would be okay, just not any I've ever been involved in.
- Deborah Fitchett
exhaustive in what sense? Given that Summon, EDS etc are bigger than any 1 database & say, I use " Add results beyond your library's collection" + login before searching to get access to Wos/Proquest A&I/ERIC results etc or in the case of EDS uncheck "Available in Library Collection (Physical & Online)", how is this necessarily less exhaustive than the pre-discovery days of going to one...
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- aarontay
That's not exhaustive, that's *exhausting* ;)
- Meg V. Meg
I do have sympathy for the argument that Summon , EDS, make it difficult to do precise searches to be fairly sure you have done a comprehensive search that you missed something though (I think I don't trust the relevancy enough so I would go very deep....). And of course no argument that Summon/EDS + databases would be more powerful than either alone. Lastly, I wonder does it really...
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- aarontay
Asking honestly: are 317 million results useful? I suggest subject indices for advanced research not just because of their depth, but because there's *some* sort of selection going on there. I'm really torn -- some days seriously anti-discovery, some days seeing its benefit for the naive searcher. But the tech doesn't live up to the promise, so usually I feel that the millions of results aren't actually that useful.
- Amandadon't
"Less is more" argument has it's points. Still I wonder. Assume a case where you manually did a search separately in 5 quality databases. Then someone (say Ebsco which does have quite a few A&Is) came along and offered you a option to search all 5 of them at one shot. Would you take up the offer? Why not? How about we ramp it up to 10 ? 20? At what point do you prefer to search...
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- aarontay
Sure, but where exactly, among your 317 million results, is the stuff you would have missed out on? And if you can't point to all of that stuff, then aren't you still missing out on it? And, really, if you're getting 317 million results from a truly exhaustive search for your thesis lit review, then you need a more narrow topic, and subject indices tend to offer better ways of helping you move towards that.
- Meg V. Meg
Staff you missed out on using only databases? That's more of an empirical matter on how often that occurs, but grad students have told me they found very relevant stuff in Summon they missed after months of looking at databases. I myself have had this experience. Of course the reverse happens as well, though i really think people who are not smart enough to use the articles they find to...
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- aarontay
Oh well, computer science. :-) (Though I suspect compsci students would still go to specialised subject databases like gitHub, they just wouldn't realise that's what they're doing.) It's different if you're doing something like chemistry where (never mind the utility of structure searching) key databases just aren't indexed by Summon. Or like fire engineering or earthquake engineering...
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- Deborah Fitchett
Who was the person back in the 80s who said that 30 results was a good amount of records to find in a narrowed down results list? I thought it was Mary something, but not Mary Ellen Bates.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
I love Aaron's point (if I'm reading him right) about how easy it is to get caught up in databases as if research = searching databases. In my narrow experience, it seems like expert humanities faculty know and respect the subject databases in their field, but actually find most of their sources through the stuff they read and the citations therein, or through searching things like Google and Google Scholar.
- Steele Lawman
Citation mining! It's a better rabbit hole to fall down because you're more likely to stay on topic.
- Zamms
Yeah I usually end up finding more stuff mining citations (forward and back). But isn't there a empirical test we can do here? I vaguely remember someone posting a informal test of eds or was it primo here and was surprised at how well it did, but I can't remember the methodology.
- aarontay
Empirical tests are hard--while we can measure recall, it's tougher to test whether a novice researcher with a vague question and limited understanding of relevant terminology will be able to find "relevant" items. I've lost count of the number of undergrads who come to me because they've tried the discovery layer and can't find anything but then have eureka when we go to a subject database (or even an aggregator). The items *were* indexed in the discovery layer, but they just couldn't get at 'em as easily.
- Megan loves summer
Anyway I don't know, much smarter people than me have debated the virtues of discovery systems before me not sure what I add to the conversation. I do spend crazy amounts of times running through searches done by users including looking at refinements they do and staring at the top 10 results. Essentially even at this superficial level, when they do well they do very well but...
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- aarontay
I agree with kaijsa if the existing non discovery interfaces were intuitive in any way at all we wouldn't be trying to throw discovery layers on top
- LibrarianOnTheLoose
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In the old handwritten catalog cards, didn't library hand require that the letters slant to the left or is that just my imagination?
- Stephen le Francoeur
Vendor emails are amusing....."I was wondering if you could provide a contact information for the current end-users as we would like to contact each user to get feedback on the products you subscribe to" um....I don't think I can give you all 6273 student emails and all 400+ faculty emails....thanks, though!