Google OS will kill Microsoft, Apple and Intel in the matter of just a few months. skype works on it. Photoshop like software even HD video editing and 3D graphics rendering will work much better and faster on Google OS simply cause cloud computing is much better as well for professional grade applications.
"Photoshop like software even HD video editing and 3D graphics rendering will work much better and faster on Google OS simply cause cloud computing is much better" -- wait what?!?! how did you come to this conclusion?
- Wizetux
"In particular, it seems likely that Chrome will be emerge as the smartbook OS of choice, and as a complement to (not a replacement for) Windows on netbooks."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
What's up with that "press tab to search" in the address bar? is it unpublished feature? what is the rule on that exactly? ..what else is there? and I find it annoying that after down of pic, that blue bar down stays on .. !and where in the hall is ? .. keyboard shortcuts .. :] .. much needed
well ..its there .. but im trying to find out when exactly its appearing .. and, suggestion, once appeared, second tab should really cancel it ... right ? :]
- Petr Buben
and so, when you type the keyword you choose, your thing appears. "Press tab to search."
- Furkan Eralp
and you don't even need to press tab! just press space after the keyword. (if you set the keyword "Yt" for youtube, you can type "YT [space] Cats" and search for cats on youtube :D )
- Alessandro
great ..thanks .. cool! this my style of neat! lets go with it Chrome:] .. now Il only repeat myself .. "at ANY time focus is not on, type tw:/u:name/text .. which is, twitter off Chrome, NO input boxes or areas necessary .. tw:text to tweet to your default, optional u:twittername where you twitt .. ie, tw:hi ..or, tw:u:petrbuben:hi there .. and so on and so on and on .. smart keyboard shortcuts, really new smart UI .. the future of the web .. the box window into the brain of the world - the Internet
- Petr Buben
"But announcing a product a year out is child's play compared to delivering on the massive global shift in resources required to make that product ubiquitous."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
Greasemetal is a userscript runtime for Google Chrome. The runtime hosts userscripts (tiny javascript files that modify the webpages being displayed) to be executed on Google Chrome, similar to what Greasemonkey does for Mozilla Firefox, or Greasekit does for Safari.
- LouCypher
"The topics cover news, videos and blogs. What’s interesting with today’s announcement is that users can also share the interesting trending topics on any of the 60+ services that Shareaholic supports which includes Digg, Facebook, Blogger, LinkedIn, ping.fm, etc. Mozilla reports over 1 million activations and the service works with Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome, Flock, Safari and Songbird."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
I have deactivated it as soon as I saw it!
- flapic
@flapic what would make you keep the Buzz Monitor? :) - Jay @ Shareaholic
- Jay Meattle
I think you have to be interested in trending topics in the first place for it to be useful to you. If you aren't, then it won't be. That doesn't mean it's a bad feature, trending integration is good because you don't have to leave the browser to see what's up.
- LANjackal
Firefox status bar is already too crowded and I needed to remove stuff I don't need, and as LANjackal said I am not interested in trends but rather use Shareaholic as a one button only in place of many bookmarklets. I am not saying it's useless, just that I won't use it.
- flapic
This is so cool! Don't let any other people say it's not!
- Chelsea Jurgens
"In a post to the Chrome blog Wednesday afternoon, Google vice president of product management Sundar Pichai said the company is working with a variety of PC and chipmakers, and another software company. Those include: Acer, Adobe, Asus, Freescale, Hewlett-Packard, Lenovo, Qualcomm, and Texas Instruments."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
are there any screen shots of the OS yet?
- Wizetux
Yes their are, just look at Google Chrome, that's the OS that we will see in the 2nd half of 2010.
- Zachary TG
uhm, then I am confused. Chrome currently doesn't handle extensions well, how will it handle Virtual memory, process queues, inter-process communication, scheduling, drivers, and user interface? You know, those thing that separate an OS from just a normal application.
- Wizetux
@Wizetux: People are a little confused, there's an actual operating system built off the Linux kernel that Google will develop. The GoogleOS will boot straight to the browser though, like any other netbook. Background OS will handle memory, drivers, and different processing queues.
- /Users/genieyclo
So in other words, Linux with just Chrome running on it. How is this so revolutionary? *Edit* well, besides Chrome running on Linux.
- Wizetux
I'm really loving your questions, 'tux. Keep 'em coming :) I've been wondering the same since morning and scratching my head at all the OMG articles I've seen
- LANjackal
from IM
LOL, Lanjackal. I liked this just for that comment.
- Wizetux
Hmm, I'm puzzled. Why are they calling the "Operating System" (to use the term very loosely) "Chrome" as well? I bet that'd create even more confusion against the clueless "my cupholder won't open any more" types...
- Tyson Key
Or at least a stupid amount of brand dilution, not that "Chrome" is that strong right now, anyway...
- Tyson Key
It's actually not Linux, it's supposedly basically a really simple windowing system by Google running on a light Linux kernel. It'll be open source, and runs only Chrome. Revolutionary? Well two reason mainly: it's an attempt by Google to get ahead in the netbook game from MS and stop having all the netbooks having Windows on them. Second, they're trying to pack Chrome for the masses at...
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- /Users/genieyclo
Apparently you missed the memo on this year's Useless Tech Buzzphrase: "The Browser is the OS" *sarcasm* *rolls eyes* Hence the same name for the OS & Browser
- LANjackal
from IM
Haha. I just thought of something "revolutionary" - an "OS" that boots directly into Lynx (a text-mode web browser). That'll teach 'em. ;)
- Tyson Key
Even better, assuming that LynuxWorks don't sue, I could call *that* Lynx too. Next up - an "OS" named EMACS. ;)
- Tyson Key
Out of interest, how would people deal with all the configuration necessary to connect to their Internet access method of choice? Pixie dust and automagic? I doubt it, unless there's some sort of lightweight web server containing a HTML and JavaScript-based configuration utility to deal with stuff like configuring WEP or WPA keys/passphrases and IP addresses and things...
- Tyson Key
I think Google wants everything to be written in HTML 5, which will then access the underlying architecture using their Native Client tech. IMO using HTML* as a one-size-fits-all solution as Google is proposing is a poor idea, but I think that's where they're headed
- LANjackal
from IM
Building every "application" in HTML, even for local use? One ugly, slow clunkfest that'd probably end up even more insecure than we have now. Imagine trying to use an "application" for scanning images, 3D modelling, watching TV using a DVB-T device, or sending files using Bluetooth. I don't think I'd want to...
- Tyson Key
Just for the laugh, would anyone want to use Mathematica, Wireshark, Skype, Eclipse or even iTunes if they were "HTML applications"? Even Flash or Java probably couldn't produce a useful result, and Eclipse just so happens to be mostly Java-based...
- Tyson Key
I do way to much in the BASH shell to handle a fully browser based OS. That, and I doubt that they would port VIM to it as well.
- Wizetux
I honestly don't think Google Chrome OS is targeting general use computing. You're not going to be editing videos, photoshopping LOLcats, or playing World of Warcraft on it. Are you really going to do any of that stuff on a netbook running Windows 7, either, anyway?
- Victor Ganata
Google supposedly had some 3D rendering demo in HTML5 at i/o IIRC. Emphasis on the demo part. But I'm definitely in agreement with iTunes et al coded in HTML5 as being a nighmare
- LANjackal
from IM
@Victor: I do photoshop (GIMP), Visual Studio code dev, GVIM editing, and *of course* FriendFeed on my Acer Aspire One.
- Wizetux
@Wizetux: heh, I suspect you won't like Google Chrome OS, then. You do all of that on a 9 inch screen?!?
- Victor Ganata
Freescale, huh? Does that mean there's hope that Google will eventually try to get things running on PPC-based architecture?
- Victor Ganata
What would the point of that be? No PC/netbook devices currently use PPC, and AFAIK IBM hasn't developed a CPU for the mobile market anyway
- LANjackal
from IM
No point, really, but then why are they working with Freescale?
- Victor Ganata
Native Client supports direct code execution, allowing programs such as GIMP or Photoshop to run within a browser.
- Mike Chelen
@Victor: Sorry if it sounded like I was questioning you ... I was just asking in general, lol
- LANjackal
from IM
@LANjackal: No, no, it sounded off the wall to me too when I saw it.
- Victor Ganata
@Mike: Do those programs have to be written in HTML 5, or can they be written in any language?
- LANjackal
from IM
Hmm, does anyone know what's happening with MIPS these days? Other than Sony using their architecture in a few products (the PlayStation 1, 2 and Portable), and some ADSL chipset manufacturers clinging on to their architecture (I think Atheros and Broadcom still use it), there doesn't seem to be much happening... I'm sure we'll see something out of China netbook-wise, soon though using it.
- Tyson Key
Still, I'd like to try it, to see how it'd compare with the SplashTop offering (although that's a little more diverse in it's aims) and JoliCloud.
- Tyson Key
LANjackal, NaCl goes beyond the capabilities of HTML 5 by supporting C code which is compiled
- Mike Chelen
Thanks Mike, I guess that puts some of my HTML5 argument to rest. The picture's becoming clearer now. Still I can't shake the feeling that this is just a Flavor of the Week OS, kinda like Moblin/Jolicloud/SplashTop/etc the list of OMGthisisgreat that make headlines for a week and then vanish is getting pretty long
- LANjackal
from IM
LANjackal, it depends how well NaCl is received by developers, and what kind of user experience Google can deliver. it's promising because they have a good track record with software development, and the other OS, Android, has turned out alright. it seems strange though that there will be two different Google OS, since it seems as though browser based and lightweight software are both targeted to the same group of netbooks and mobile devices
- Mike Chelen
Yeah, Mike, that does seem weird that it looks like they're competing with themselves, but I guess they're intent on keeping phones/PDAs completely separate from netbooks?
- Victor Ganata
Will there be some sort of cross-over with Android? I have a feeling that someone (if not Google) will get Dalvik and the rest of the stack running on this, for what it's worth. Still, at least they have Chrome/WebKit, so there's something in common there.
- Tyson Key
You guys' guess is as good as mine. Given the existence of Android and all, I'm just confused as hell as to where exactly Chrome OS is supposed to fit. Can anyone tell me if Google had any official netbook partners for Android? Emphasis on *official*
- LANjackal
from IM
1.The font in most of the websites are smaller than all of the other browsers,and the font is uuuugly popular sites like Twitter, Friendfeed,Facebook etc.It doesn't happen in any other browsers I kind of need to make the fonts bigger manually each time when I use Facebook,it is not comfortable to read.Is it kind of signal that Google don't want people to use competitor's sites?
- Steve Chou
2.Chrome font doesn't fit the OS too much,we need the seamless experience when using it on Windows. and it doesn't even work well on some Google sites,it appear exclamation point on https (most of the Google sites included),and it notes "This page contains some insecure content",it is funny to see these notes on Google sites, Googlers never use their own product in Chrome?
- Steve Chou
Try reinstalling the Chrome bookmarklet from http://delicious.com/help... - I haven't heard many other reports of problems with it, so reinstalling should be a good first step.
- britta
I didn't install Chrome bookmarklet in the first place.It just can't drag and drop bookmarklet like the other browsers.
- Steve Chou
I'm not quite sure what you mean -- did you try dragging-and-dropping the bookmarklet from that page, and it didn't work?
- britta
Yes,I tried to install the bookmarklet as I used to,just drag and drop the bookmarklet for Chrome to the bookmarks,doesn't work at all,then I tried in Firefox,it worked.Is it Chrome' issue or delicious bookmarklet? Still have no idea.
- Steve Chou
In fact,another people does say some problem like that in the Chrome help forum.
- Steve Chou
@Steve Chrome dev version 3.0.192.1 (released within last few hours) fixes the drag-and-drop not working to the bookmarks bar. Worth a try.
- Warren Butler
And when I told Google chrome team on Twitter,they just told me turn to dev version with some unstable extention as here: https://twitter.com/ChromeB... ,but I don't want that.
- Steve Chou
"Google's security contest called for researchers to examine the code and report potential weaknesses. These were reviewed by a panel of independent judges who tested all of the submitted vulnerabilities. The winning team, IBM researcher Mark Dowd and independent security analyst Ben Hawkes, found a total of twelve vulnerabilities. The second place team, a group of researchers from Matasano Security, found four vulnerabilities."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
Highlights in this release: (Mac) Enabled support for the Mac OS X spellchecking service. (Mac) First cut at popup blocking for Mac. (Linux) Accelerator keys like ctl-C for copy should work again. (Linux) Initial support of complex text (e.g. Arabic). Bug reports welcome. (Linux) Initial GTK theme support. (Linux) IME support. (Extensions) Breaking API Change: page_actions.icon renamed...
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- Warren Butler
Yay, now able to drag-and-drop bookmarklets on the bookmarks bar again.
- Warren Butler
"The Chrome OS will be far more web-centric than Windows which means that many - if not most - of it applications will be running over the Internet. What's more, people's data will be stored "in the cloud," much of it on servers run by Google. So, while Google may help reduce Microsoft's potential as a single point of failure, it increases it own potential. If hackers were successful in launching an attack on Google, that would affect not only people's ability to use Google apps, but the integrity of their data. Although there weren't any reported data breaches, there was a day in May of this year when Google sites were partially inaccessible as a result of a technical glitch. On that day, millions of people were unable to use Google services, including Google Docs and Spreadsheets. Say what you want about Microsoft, but even if the company totally shut down its web operations, its operating system and PC applications would still run."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
That last part about local apps and hardware still running even if a web operation vaporized is one of my main arguments against the Cloud-as-everything hype flying around now
- LANjackal
I seem to remember that Google's services are not localized in one place but distributed and associated with the logic of the grid computing
- Roberto (postoditacco)
That doesn't prevent outages. DNS servers and top-tier carriers can and have gone down, cutting off swaths of the net from each other. Errors in the system itself are independent of the number of locations. Gmail's gone down recently too
- LANjackal
from IM
it certainly also doesn't prevent the far more common outage of your ISP having a hiccup
- LANjackal
from IM
"This is, in many respects, just another Linux distribution. And Linux has (speaking charitably) not had the impact on the general-purpose PC market that its supporters once hoped it would. Sure, enthusiasts load Linux onto PCs and it can work quite well, but even at an open-source developer conference you'll often see far more Macs than PCs running Linux. I can't say that I understand why Chrome OS would succeed where Ubuntu has, if not failed, largely played to a niche. It's Google we're talking about here to be sure. To which I say that Google has had plenty of failures: Orkut, Google Video, Knol, and Google Base anyone? Fundamentally, I'm skeptical that anyone is in a position to seriously displace Microsoft and Apple from effective ownership of the general-purpose desktop and notebook space. There's so much ecosystem, most of all software ecosystem, in place that a new entrant would have to offer just overwhelming advantage. Which Linux didn't and doesn't."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
Gordon forgot to drink the kool aid! He shows common sense and offers some good analysis,"I see Chrome OS as reflecting a change in the client and the way we access applications. To the degree that Chrome OS further illuminates and, by doing so, accelerates such change it may indeed be important in its own right. However, this is largely a change that's happening with or without Google--and certainly with or without anything Google does with respect to client operating systems."
- Shane
"Windows 7 will come out before Google Chrome OS will; if it performs up to users’ expectations, it’ll be harder for Google to push through. By the time Chrome OS supports enough hardware and software to be deemed really usable by a significant portion of users, Microsoft will have a lot of time to fix things."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
screw photoshop- we've got plenty of awesome online design tools that are getting better and better by the day
- Zee.
That actually wasn't the point of the article, it was just a baiting title. Read and you'll see what it's saying.
- LANjackal
Yeah, this isn't about building a direct competitor to windows. Established products get eaten from the margins, which in the case of Windows is mobile and now netbooks (and of course server).
- Paul Buchheit
@zee: you are not a pro photographer, do you? :) online design tools are more like microsoft paint today... i don't think that this will change soon. and this is one of the biggest problems for an online os: good for surf the web, read the news, send email, white some simple document and spreadsheet, but not for more specific jobs. i think i will install chrome os when the first beta comes out but i think i will need also windows... for photoshop!
- Alessandro
Well not everyone needs photoshop....They will probably have a web version of photoshop. Something like aviary.com
- Saad Kamal
Don't understand anyone would buy a netbook and run Photoshop onto. Limited screen size, limited processor, limited memory. Chrome OS is aimed squarely at people who do most other their productivity in the browser.
- Paul Grav
Remember guys, all Google is doing is taking the Linux Kernel, and writing a new Gnome/KDE competitor. That's all.
- Yuvi
Linux was already pushing down from the high end og the PC market, in server sales. Linux has been trying to push up from the low end, in netbooks and things like OLPC, but didn't get enough traction. Now it might.
- DGentry
If Android, Moblin, Ubuntu & KitchensinkLinux (joke) haven't gotten the traction of which you speak, how's ChromeOS going to make a difference? It's not gonna be able to run anything the others can't. If anything it will be *less* capable than they are. IMO the only thing ChromeOS is good for is super low cost web tablets ... like the Crunchpad
- LANjackal
from IM
By not trying to be a better Windows. The initial round of netbooks were pitched as "Linux is like Windows only BETTER, and FREE". People expected it to work like Windows, and it doesn't, so they were returned in droves. It sounds like Chrome will not be yet another desktop Linux distribution, but a system which expects everything to be a web service. People are willing to accept...
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- DGentry
It'll run Picnik :). Honestly, I don't have photoshop on my laptop, either.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
For example, Linux ships in massive numbers into peoples homes today, in DVD players running on ARM7 CPUs. Nobody knows they are using Linux, they put a disk in the machine and their video plays. If the systems running ChromeOS are positioned as not being PCs, with a UI which doesn't look like Windows, there is a better chance of acceptance than in trying to be a better Windows.
- DGentry
@DGentry well I agree that people don't expect DVD players to work like windows..but they do expect their netbooks (which most of the ppl considers as "PC") to work like windows. And since Chorme plans to target the netbook market...I believe that they need to be better than Windows to some extent for people to buy.
- Saad Kamal
"Every since it launched its two truly dominant products, search and AdSense, Google has dabbled in dozens of other products that have basically gone nowhere. These products share the following characteristics: * They are promising opportunities * They are rolled out in beta to great fanfare * They are praised and celebrated * They are left to rot on the vine while Google's best and brightest rush off to play with the next cool toy * They are forgotten in six months"
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
Finally, common sense strikes a journalist somewhere. Thank you God
- LANjackal
FTA: "If it doesn't, Chrome OS will end up just like Chrome: yet another irrelevant skunkworks project used by a handful of digerati and Microsoft-haters and ignored by everyone else." So true. Outside of the usual loud internet banter, no one knows (or cares) about Chrome anyway
- LANjackal
they could use a good dose of retaining intellectual labor, GE style
- stanleyyork
I'm pretty sure gmail is doing alright? Also, I think this is the key to the whole google strategy and will increase the usage of those "forgotten" apps... I've never gotten out of the habit of using Word, but if I was using a netbook with chrome OS, then I just might.
- Frankie Warren
Gmail was successful, but Jaiku, Google Notebook, Google Browser Sync, Lively, Dodgeball and others have all been failures. Others, such as Gears, just never caught on outside of Google's own services
- LANjackal
from IM
Nothing ventured nothing gained. Google is profitable the risk vs reward of continually trying is silly not to take on. Stanleyyork, Is GE really someone anyone wants to emulate anymore?
- Geoff Schultz
They’re a web-app company. It would be nice to also be a player in the browser business, since the browser is the environment in which every important part of Google’s business runs.
- Mark Bean
Is Chrome really irrelevant? It's the only browser I use, and I love it. I can't be the only one. If I happen to come across a page that won't work in it (only found that to be the case with our city's gov't website), I open IE. I don't even have FF anymore. It just couldn't keep up.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
You're the exception, not the rule. Chrome is a technical success, but not a marketing/userbase one.
- LANjackal
from IM
it's the "left to rot on the vine" part that is key, I think. Many of those products didn't have to be failures, but for whatever reason were not given priority and were not nurtured. Could it be that post launch, products are given a rigorous analysis and if they do not have monetization potential they are not supported?
- Laura Norvig
So how exactly did IE get a grip on the market again? I think it was because it shipped with windows. This could drive adoption across the board for google aps.
- Frankie Warren
For the first time in a long while, I am truly excited by a new google product. This operating system is that new product. Why? Because it presents an approach to tackling the future direction of operating systems, and I believe that it is pointed in the right direction. But execution is, as they say, everything. So let's wait and see.
- Zach Landes
LOL r u kidding me? So you weren't excited by Wave, but Chrome OS got you all happy? Wow.
- LANjackal
from IM
I assume that the EU are going to insist that the Chrome O/S is not bundled with a browser or that it includes IE, FF, and Opera. After all, Microsoft are being treated that way.
- Mark
An OS where all the apps are written in web technologies ... now where have I heard that recently ... Oh yeah, we already have the Palm Pre ... that's the form factor where this makes sense, too, by the way.
- Joel Bennett
LANjackal i realize the "social media types" are fairly reluctant to admire "old companies", but they've proven to produce great talent if nothing else.
- stanleyyork
stanleyyork: Wait... is google the "old company"? :) I don't think so.
- Frankie Warren
LANjackal Wave is hugely exciting, at least to me, but I don't consider it a product yet. It's still pre-beta (pre-alpha, even?).
- Laura Norvig
Yes LANjackal, I am more excited about the prospect of reorienting computers around the internet, from the bottom up (as opposed to being tacked on, as it is now), than I am about the opportunity to see other people's emails while they write. And I'm not sorry for expressing my opinion, despite your apparent shock and disgust.
- Zach Landes
Shocked but not disgusted. IMO Wave is a much more revolutionary product, and is closer to release than Chrome OS. I'd expect ppl to be more excited about the former, but do as you wish :)
- LANjackal
from IM
"The second clue Scoble provides is that it runs in a browser, Chrome and Firefox specifically, and at least witnessed being demoed in Firefox. Whilst it’s not impossible whatever this is is not a Silverlight application, I’m more inclined to guess it’s an AJAX web application. To play devil’s advocate however, Scoble specifically refers to “part of the Microsoft announcement” runs in a Chrome and Firefox, which could be interpreted one of two ways. Either it is not entirely a web application or that it is not 100% compatible with Chrome and Firefox."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
Office for the web seems likely -- the need to release that eventually (they've been working on it for years).
- Paul Buchheit
July 13th -- the big announcement is Windows 7 has RTM'd
- Grant Gochnauer
Good call, because that's true ... but something else may be up
- LANjackal
from IM
My guess -- is the announcement is that Windows 7 will be available before Oct 22nd -- most likely to OEMs, etc to hit the back to school season. I believe starting July 13th, Technet members can download the media and get their official keys.
- Grant Gochnauer
My guess is that they will announce Office Web / Live. The one they talked about last(?) year and which is supposed to be like Google Docs and work on non-IE browsers unlike their current crappy Office Live thing that doesn't actually offer any features.
- Ivan Zlatev
Maybe they'll announce that Windows 7 will be free (kidding)
- andy brudtkuhl
Whatever it is, it probably will be powered by Silverlight since Silverlight 3's launch is this Friday. Office Web Edition makes sense to me.
- Alan Le
Maybe it's just me, but if someone puts me under embargo, I wouldn't even mention the announcement is coming
- Bwana
"Google's decision to create its own Linux distribution and splinter the Linux community decisively once again can only be seen as foolhardy and self-obsessive. Instead of treading its own path, Google should have sought to leverage the stellar work already carried out by Shuttleworth and his band of merry coders and tied its horse to the Ubuntu cart. If Google truly wants to design a new "windowing system on top of a Linux kernel," there should be nothing to stop the search giant from collaborating openly with the best in the business. I'm sure Linus Torvalds would have something strongly worded to say about Google's plans to "completely redesign" the underlying security architecture of Linux."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
Um... wtf? Linux is about choice right? Who cares if we are "splintering" the linux community.
- Holden
I think there is some merit to completely redesign an architecture that has its roots some decades ago. Let's just see where it goes.
- Oliver Bouchard
@Holden True, and that's one of the Catch 22s of Linux. For it to succeed against Windows and OS X as its zealots want it to, it must violate its own principles and enforce unformity
- LANjackal
from IM
Actually the more I think about it the more this post just ticks me off. There is no need for Google to partner with anyone, including Ubuntu. And let them redesign the architecture, it is probably needed. Exclusion is not a security feature. it just means no one cares.
- Holden
LOL "architecture redesign" is a gross overstatement. It's Chrome running atop the Linux kernel, which means that whatever device is running the OS will be a browser appliance. That's nothing new
- LANjackal
from IM
LANjackal: Chrome already runs on Linux and for some reason I am sure it will be more than a browser appliance. You do realize for this to work it is actually a great thing for driver support? Google has the man power to get people to listen. The linux community should be jumping up and down right now.
- Holden
I think Googles plans are bigger. They're downplaying it now - first they need to take on a realistic project that they can deliver any time soon and second they always try not to jump in Microsoft's or Apple's face. But once they have an all-Google platform going, then anything is possible.
- Oliver Bouchard
They already have Android. I don't get where the new Chrome OS fits in, since anything that runs any of the above can probably run them both
- LANjackal
from IM
Android has always been focused on Mobile and while it can run on netbooks it isn't designed for that. I think of it like this. Chrome OS -> windows 7, Android -> windows mobile.
- Holden
Google is doing the same thing as Apple. Building a great OS for mobile, notebook, netbook, desktop and server. Difference is that Google does it Open Source and does not sell hardware. They are playing on MS playground.
- Berry Groenendijk
Berry: I am worried about that a little bit. Part of the reason Apple has such a great experience is because they can control everything. The microsoft route... well... anything can be done. Which for first impressions can be good or bad. And for the G1 for android... it wasn't the best :/
- Holden
@Holden: "Chrome OS -> windows 7, Android -> windows mobile" but Chrome OS has been released as a netbook OS ... which is exactly the space Android was supposed to be covering. And again, your analogy omits the fact that there are other major OSes besides Windows.
- LANjackal
It has been released as a netbook os as starters. reading the official post it says that it can run on PC's and you can bet your bottom dollar it will. And I have never heard Google tout or say that Android is meant for netbooks. They didn't even say it can as far as my knowledge goes (could be wrong).
- Holden
people just assumed that it could and that is where Google was headed.
- Holden
Although the concept has much *future* promise, I think it's laughable *at this point* to call a browser a drop-in replacement for an OS. One-size-fits-all solutions are easy, but they're rarely efficient
- LANjackal
from IM
If this were any other company i would have the same doubt as you. But this is Google, and whether we like it or not. They tend to get things right or damn near close. They aren't going to be stupid about this. That is for sure.
- Holden
I agree in that there's not much Google has done *wrong*, but there are quite a few projects/releases of its making that have generally failed to gain much traction anywhere. Gears is one of them. FB chat killed GTalk overnight, not that GTalk ever threatened AIM or WLM in terms of user base anyway. I think Chrome OS will be a *technical* success, but not much more than an academic curiosity for at least the next few years. I'll put my money on Android in the mobile space and Wave when it drops
- LANjackal
from IM
Oh, and Chrome, for all its speed and hype, has absolutely slaughtered ... *Drumroll* Opera. As I said, there's a huge difference between technical success and market success. Google is very good at the former, but outside of search and email (Android may be hyped but it's nowhere near widely available nor has the G1/HTC Magic sold as well as the iPhone or RIM devices), the latter has been tough to come by for them
- LANjackal
from IM
Google has all it takes to trouble Microsoft and this time it’s Chrome OS | Startup Meme - Technology Startup and Latest Tech News - http://startupmeme.com/google-...
In theory one would hope not, and have to option to install it yourself.
- Gible Fog
i thought it didn't have an OS just a browser ?
- tony bland
tony, there is always an OS underneath, but from what I have read about both is that they essentially both boot in to "the browser"..... obviously this is all speculation at the moment.
- Paul Kinlan
"Google Chrome OS is an open source, lightweight operating system that will initially be targeted at netbooks. Later this year we will open-source its code, and netbooks running Google Chrome OS will be available for consumers in the second half of 2010. Because we're already talking to partners about the project, and we'll soon be working with the open source community, we wanted to share our vision now so everyone understands what we are trying to achieve."
- Alessandro
from Bookmarklet
"Neither Chrome nor Firefox pioneered the art of tabbed browsing, though Firefox made it popular first. Can Google seize upon this feature and make it its own?"
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
"HTML 5 features such as local storage and the video and audio elements are starting to make their way into the new breed of browsers too, though it's still often necessary to install Google Gears to get advanced offline functionality (e.g. most of the Google Apps suite) up and running."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
better yet, the site is the browser is the OS .... it ought to be... it will be ... every embeddable fragment, paragraph, frame, will become its own operating system
- Petr Buben
Makes me wonder if Arrington's idea of the "CrunchPad" *is* the embodiment of this concept.
- Pandu E Poluan
If only the Google Gears addon would work with Firefox 3.5 ...
- David McDonald
from iPhone
Highlights in this release: Animated GIFs fixed. Extensions changes, see Dev Channel Visible Changes post to the Chromium-Extensions mailing list. Printing fixes for Windows. Try out the New New Tab Page by using the command line switch --new-new-tab-page. Don't wait for the new new new tab page, get yours today! Linux now supports IME for non-roman script languages. Fixes for...
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- Warren Butler
thanks for the changelog Warren! : ) I was looking for that earlier.
- vijay
No probs. I just wish I could post it with better formatting.
- Warren Butler
from Nambu
i do like Chrome but lacking tab mix plus is a tough change for me -- will jump in once it becomes available
- Ricardo Pietrobon
I am using ZoneAlarm for my Firewall and have had no problems with anything until I started using Firefox so shall steer well clear in future
- Qwerty
ZA's firewall gives more unnecessary headaches than probably any other security software. If you're running Vista or later, just use the built-in firewall, it's just as capable, very configurable and gives no issues.
- LANjackal
The built in firewall of any Windows OS is rubbish in my experience as I've had lots of intrusions no matter how I configured it and I've not had any issues with ZA's firewall until I used Firefox
- Qwerty
Ever wondered why the rest of us don't have that problem AND aren't being hacked/experiencing intrusions? Clearly you're doing something wrong, buddy. But if you want to continue down that path be my guest, you're only hurting yourself missing out on good software for a crappy reason
- LANjackal
from IM
Thanx for your constructive input - it wasn't noted
- Qwerty
As I said, you're in the minority with a self-inflicted problem. Don't blame Firefox. What you're doing is akin to breaking your legs and then blaming your bike for not being able to ride
- LANjackal
from IM
No I'm just saying Firefox conflicks with my firewall - the blame is neither on firefox or my firewall, they just don't work together - it is you that is assigning blame but everyone is entitled to their own opinion
- Qwerty
Firefox just don't delve deep enough into the system to conflict with any firewall. What problem are you experiencing?
- Pandu E Poluan
"There are an immense number of tools that have been created to help web developers. Unfortunately, you might never know this; there’s no central index of these tools. It turns out that keeping up with all the development in this space is really difficult–even for folks like us who have been tracking it every day for years. As we’ve explored different tools we could create here as part of the Developer Tools Lab, we’ve come to the opinion that in addition to creating new tools, one of the best things we could do is help developers understand the broad universe of tools that already exist and expose some of the fantastic and amazing work that’s being done. We’re launching today a first step in this direction: an Open Web Tools Directory."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
Hmm... Mattie, I was just glad whatever was bothering you at home was over and you were back. Why did I post it here? 'Cause you {liked} it, so there is a better chance you would come back and see my message(and I was right). Also we don't have a messaging feature here. Anyway, I don't see what's inappropriate about this but I can take it down if it's too distracting, no problem; it's unrelated to the post, and now has lost context as well, so it might as well not be here.
- vijay
Lou, with this you don't need to install any program or copy scrips to folders etc, it's all just drag-and-drop, really easy, quick and hassle-free. But to each his own. Thanks for sharing it here btw. It's good to be aware of options.
- vijay
vijay, using your method, not all scripts will work because Chrome doesn't recognize Greasemonkey's GM_* functions and unsafeWindow object. Plus, it steals userscripts.org's bandwidth, because your bookmarklet injects script hosted on userscripts.org into a web page.
- LouCypher