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Sometimes, gravity and concrete conspire to wreck havoc on my life.
Richard Peat, Squid, Alex Scoble and 11 other people liked this
D'oh! Is this the same iPhone which was returned by a taxi driver? Was that you?? Bummer... :-(
- Lisa L. Seifert
I blame Newton!
- Toby Graham
ouch!
- Kevin Johnson
Oh no! I will see this in my nightmares. Very sorry!
- Shellee
that sucks
- Cee Bee
I feel responsible.
- Chuck Fishman
That's why the first thing I got with my iPhone was a rubber case. Unfortunately it ripped and I had to get a hard case which is just slightly less slippery than the real plastic. Now I just have a death-grip on the phone any time it's in my hands.
- Ernie Oporto
Aw man Dan! What happened?!
- Corvida
Call Apple and have them troubleshoot it *inno*
- Michael W. May
Damn.
- Timothy Griffin
I'd blame AT&T if I were you. They are always screwing everything up.
- Thomas Hawk
What's the problem? :p
- ChiliMac
Ouch
- Alex Scoble
Corvida: Getting out of a car, it fell from my hands. @Thomas: I think it is, in fact, AT&T's fault. I'll call them and demand a solution or some cash.
- Dan Kaplan
I tried to leave a comment on someone's wall on Facebook, but Chrome that wouldn't let me, had to use Firefox.
Elliott Ng, Marko Bon, Niv and 3 other people liked this
chrome + facebook = fail
- Baard @ Pixum
watching facebook photo album on chrome fails too
- Aad 't Hart
A large number of the javascript links on Facebook don't seem to work, I hope they fix this soon as switching between browsers is annoying
- Arthur Guy
Much of Facebook is non-functional. I use Chrome to browse, but any interaction requires another browser. You cannot comment or add applications. But you can confirm friends. Sometimes video works but not always - flash video does struggle in Chrome (including YouTube).
- Scott Goldblatt
Wall to wall works but it sounds like posting on someone's page directly doesn't.
- Arthur Guy
Yeah it doesn't work well AT ALL with FBook. Sigh.
- Drew Lucas
there are a lot of Fcbk wall display issues that have to do with incompatibility between the new and old versions of Fcbk
- Chuck Fishman
try chromium nightlies occasionally to see if bugs get fixed. If they persist a few revisions down, report them.
- mjc
oooh, that sucks...no facebook, no chrome, sorry
- Sarah Perez
I could care less about pro-life vs. pro-choice at this time. Many more important issues at hand.
Admiral Anika, Matt Baron, Alex Scoble and 8 other people liked this
I agree totally, usually that issue is on the top of my list, but I find the candidates stances on Iraq to be the most compelling issue at hand. It doesn't matter which side you're on more lives are will be effected by the President's stand on that issue than his stance on pro-life/pro-choice (barring a mass exodus of the Supreme Court)
- David Knight
i'm not sure that many women would agree
- Cee Bee
That's *always* an important issue, despite what else is going on in the world. Sorry.
- David Cook
from twhirl
There might be more important issues - Iraq being one - but the abortion issue is important to me. 1) I have a uterus. 2) "Pro-life" is a fairly good indicator of a candidate's other values, usually diametrically opposed to mine.
- Marci Maleski
Being Pro Choice is a big deal for me.
- orionstarr
Being anti-back alley days, it's always a big deal to me.
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
I don't like the term "pro-life" for people who oppose abortion. They are not pro women's life. I wish the media would change that to "anti-abortion."
- Trish R
It's sad that THIS issue is what defines so much of political thought. I wish we argued about science, energy, and technology policies instead. But I'm a dreamer.
- Robert Scoble
Trish the same could said about pro-choice not being pro what the baby would choose. They are both valid terms from the point of view of the one holding them
- David Knight
Trish: those who control language control how the game is played.
- Robert Scoble
I could care less about political conventions. Watching people who only care about their own interests, oh and their donors, is tedious. The crowd clapping like seals is too much for me.
- Jonathon
Although the abortion debate is important to me, my read is that the situation is gridlocked enough that there will be no movement on it in the next several years; I figure the next two terms at least. I think it's more important to get us onto a different energy source. I dream about a "hero project" to get us onto something like hydrogen. So many problems could be cleared up if we had cheap limitless energy.
- Justin Long
How can you be "Pro-life" but then send human beings into war to get killed? How can you let genocide go on in modern times? Let's ask the republicans.
- orionstarr
Justin: yeah, while we're spending our time arguing religious debates Germany is subsidizing solar. I just met a German who has solar panels on his house -- all subsidized for 20 years. THAT is brilliant policy because it moves Germany away from its dependence on others for its energy needs. I wish we'd argue about how best to do that here than getting into religious debates that will never be solved because they are, well, religious debates.
- Robert Scoble
There are many, many important issues, abortion per se being only one of those many issues. I'm more worried about people who think it's the *only* issue worth consideration when voting. Single-issue politics is fine for lobbyists and interests, but shouldn't determine one's vote.
- Steve Lowe
Orion: part of the problem with that statement is that it assumes all Republicans march in lockstep with the policies of the current administration, when that is certainly not the case.
- Justin Long
Honestly I assume republicans or most of them are "Pro-Life" why is that?
- orionstarr
Yes, probably a majority are "pro-life." But that doesn't mean that they are pro-war or pro-genocide. Or unwilling to do something about either.
- Justin Long
Well put, Melanie.
- Hao Chen
I see the abortion question as a part of a larger issue. Does a candidate support freedom or do they endorse control? Do they believe primarily in our freedoms and rights or do they view government as a means to impose beliefs and laws on the citizens? Are they committed to our Constitutional republic or will they lead us into a police state?
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Robert, exactly. Can we say separation of church and state? Too bad that will never truly happen here.
- Hao Chen
Why is Gov. Palin's daughter's pregnant body a personal issue and they are requesting her privacy be respected, yet they have the right to tell every other U.S. woman what she can do with hers?
- Trish R
Well, the thing about pro-life is ... shouldn't they also be anti-war at this point? So, in that way the war policy is somewhat related. But even in isolation there is the war, economy (do you believe in trickle down), healthcare, education, energy, environment.
- AJ Kohn
I am an oddball I guess, I am a Christian, pro-life but primarily as it relates to me only. We each are answerable to God for our own actions. I have always been amazed that ppl will bomb facilities but don't care if the kid they feel must be born has a decent education, food or shelter. My minister told me, it is not his responsbility. yeah.
- R. Ferguson
It's a big deal to me and I would never vote for an anti choice candidate. Ever.
- Michelle Martinez
If the social conservatives would just put their money where their mouth is and fund responsible sex education AND medical tech to allow women to have COMPLETE control over their reproductive cycles there wouldn't BE any problem. Instead, their lack of such indicates that they don't really care and are more interested in political gains.
- Chrimmus Tad
+ 1 Michelle
- Steve Isaacs
Brian, the people in government are going to vote their conscience whether they should or not (they are, after all, elected to represent the views of their constituency and not their own). Knowing that someone is likely to vote their own conscience means I'm obligated to vote for someone who's views most closely match my own in order to have any hope of them voting for my views.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Trish R: do you really intend to de-humanize Gov. Palin's daughter like that? Is she a "pregnant body" or a person? All sorts of things become possible when we dehumanize folks
- Bob Lozano
@Brian: You think those who want separation of church and state want to ship religious folks out of the country? I want a government who doesn't tell me what faith I should follow. If enough Hindus gained political positions would we shut down the cattle industry and have them walk the streets?
- AJ Kohn
Actually Tina, that's not the way it was originally intended to work. When America was first founded, distance and lack of communication (plus a general governing philosophy, if I remember my history correctly) meant that people were intended to vote for representatives of a certain character rather than to explicitly represent the views of the people. That's sort of the difference between a republic and a democracy isn't it? I could be wrong, and I wonder if a republic is even still appropriate?
- Justin Long
Abby ... don't hide! That is exactly how I feel. I am not "pro-abortion" -- I am not an "abortion enthusiast" as they try to paint people who are pro-choice. I don't think I could ever do it, and I wouldn't encourage anyone I care about to do it. But I do not equate it with murder -- so I believe it should be a safe, legal choice for women who find themselves in such a position.
- Cheryl Rice
this is a VERY important issue to me, sorry - I am glad I don't have an unwanted 7 year old - are you kidding me?
- Chuck Fishman
@Bob, all women's bodies are dehumanized during the abortion debate.
- Trish R
I just wish we could worry less about which side is "right" and put the energy (and money) into solving the problems of unwanted pregnancy, rape, inadequate child care, poverty, etc. etc. that lead to it instead.
- Alix Whitmire
I was thinking of all those voices silented. Among them, the visionary, the inventor, the discoverer, the researcher, the key person, who, ironically, was not allowed to continue his or her life, because no one could see them. No one was there to protect them as they used to be protected. No one to judge them before they even opened their eyes and tell them they were unwanted. How ironic that we have important issues that so desperately need address and we may be preventing the very ones who could....
- Melanie Reed
...cont,.give us those answers. The future is in the cosmos, the universe of the womb and we had better look there and respect it, be courageous in defending that land as our grandmothers and great-grandmothers, and great-great grandmothers did for us. May we honor their sacrifice, for in their altruistic sacrifice, it brought us through God's grace into this world in the first place. Let us honor that by looking at the connections that brought us to this moment.
- Melanie Reed
The sad thing is that many "unwanted pregnancies" at an earlier age, sadly translate into missed children and families at a post menopausal age. Add to that the instability and loyalty-lacking of job market and it is doubly tragic. The 2004 Annual Editions Business Ethics has some interesting insights in articles from and about women in business who did just that: got rid of or postponed "unwanted pregnancies all for reasons many of them then sadly regretted. Time often alters our perspective on things.
- Melanie Reed
Hao Chen. Thank you for pointing me to that very fine article by Robert. I wanted to make sure that I was on topic...and I am. Those who can't be heard and can't be seen...yet ARE our future innovators. And if I did not mention them in my initial posting, my apologies. The problems we are discussing, any of them, have a direct connection to the future lives of the unborn and they to the problems we presently have. Are any of you good at your jobs? Excellent at them to the point of making an impact?
- Melanie Reed
You would not have been able to make that impact if 2 people had decided you were 1) ill-timed in their lives 2) unwanted. Personally, I'm very glad that you are ALL here and able to discuss the issue. Because if our parents had made the decision to NOT have us, we obviously would not even have the ability to presently disagree. ;)
- Melanie Reed
@Robert - The tech industry tends to have pretty high salaries, especially in CA. Above $75k, say goodbye to 42% plus a 5.5% solidarity tax to the German treasury. Don't forget the 19% VAT on most items. Of course they can subsidize, it's on the backs of the citizens. You pay either way.
- Chris Mayer
I apologize for picking a sensitive topic to many people as an example. There was a lot of good discussion here, but I also regret indirectly starting a debate on abortion. That was not the point, and I respect everyone's views and priorities.
- Hao Chen
To Napa or not to Napa tomorrow, that is the question...
I say - stay put
- Chuck Fishman
www.redux.com - http://www.facebook.com/posted...
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Thanks for turning me on to Redux
- Chuck Fishman
@KeviKev try the fire.fm firefox extension. i've been jamming it exclusively for the last week. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US...
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I just installed this - thanks for the heads up on fire.fm
- Chuck Fishman
Goodnight Bush... heh :)
but the rumor is that we get a third term
- Chuck Fishman
just saw a copy of this in my colleagues office but didn't have time to look at it.
- Laura Norvig
ugh. 3rd term?
- Sam Allan
why do people yell into their cells. dude, if i can hear u clearly at 15 yrds away ill bet the guy on the other end thinks ur screaming too
because we are old and deaf so we don't realize how loud we are
- Chuck Fishman
I think giving bloggers exclusives is bull shit. it's only good for startups when bloggers won't take the time to review well w/o it.
Elliott Ng, kamla bhatt, David Risley and 7 other people liked this
What do do when someone offers you an exclusive?
- Dan Kaplan
Dan, in almost every case I tell them - you don't need to do that, it's not in your best interest and I'm capable of competing with other blog coverage on quality under an embargo - I don't need it.
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
I like your approach Marshall. I know there are many well-read blogs out there that won't consider a story unless it is exclusive to them...
- Morgan
I totally agree, Marshall -- embargoes and exclusives are bullshit
- mathew ingram
i don't think embargoes are necessarily BS. bloggers are busy and can't always jump to cover the story the day a release comes out. Plus embargoes give bloggers time to review and form an opinion which is the true value in their writing (rather than straight reportage).
- Morgan
Go Marshall. :)
- David Rothman (☤)
Marshall, that's really good of you.
- Dan Kaplan
It's always fun to have the scoop. When I worked at WSJ - that was the modus operandi - and it kept us motivated and hungry.
- Chuck Fishman
WTF, stop spamming me with http://www.the6figureteam.com, anyone else being bombarded? - http://funkydorystokie.blogspot.com/2008...
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I blocked a user on Twitter that presented this.
- Chuck Fishman
Think 30 days ago. Is your FriendFeed use up or down since early and mid July?
Nicholas James, Susan Beebe, Kol Tregaskes and 9 other people liked this
Up. Took a summer hiatus but am back now.
- Mike Reynolds
Way up!
- Iain Baker
Have started using FF regularly the last 30 days, so way up for me as well.
- TDavid
I asked because my use is down. I feel dirty and sad now. :(
- Ben Parr
About the same.
- Chrimmus Tad
No change.
- Morton Fox
As I've only been here about a month, I think I'm required to say 'up'.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Haven't been around here long enough so definitely usage has gone up.
- Andrew Trinh
more or less same.
- Parth Awasthi
Definitely down.
- Ole Begemann
Down with my overall internet use.
- Andrea Sturm
UP
- Dave Martin
Up, and essentially replaced twitter for finding information. twitter is now purely entertainment for me.
- Rob Diana
The thing is this survey will only show mostly "up" people. Folks who aren't using FriendFeed anymore won't see this item.
- Robert Scoble
Just to be contrarian to Robert, mine is way down. I used to do 700-1000 likes and 400-500 comments in a week easily, now it's far, far less.
- Mark Trapp
Mine is definitely down.
- Michelle Martinez
down, I used it less on my 18-days vacations...
- Marcos Marado
Slightly down. I suspect for most people there is a huge rush to start then a settling back as they find the way of use most comfortable to them.
- Brian Sullivan
*Way* up, as is my plurk usage.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Drifting down
- Michael Markman
probably slightliy down, but only due to their being a downturn in news lately so I'm spending more time digging for stories
- Duncan Riley
Up
- Jim Goldstein
way down - been too busy reading and writing and haven't had enough time to actually interact on FF (or Twitter for that matter)
- Frederic
up! I logged in ...
- Ashton
way up!
- Morgan
Certainly up, since I have been on FF more than ever.
- Daniel Schildt
powering business intelligence
- Chuck Fishman
unhealthily up
- Marcel Weiß
Down. Yeah, I said it.
- Blake N. Cooper
just slightly down, but it's summer time
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
@Scoble - If you're right and a lot of people who would say down are not present in the conversation, does this present a bad omen for the community, or is it just a natural phase in the growth of a new service?
- Ben Parr
Same, though it has been up in the last few days since Robert Scoble unblocked me, he has tons of really interesting posts so I use it more now commenting on his tweets and such.
- Andrew Fielding
Down!!
- Satya
Up, it's too addictive! I'm probably spending more time here than I should.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Very much up, 30 days ago, I hardly used it, since then I've added lots of my services, a room and a user specifically for my Squashy Frog Photography site. I also check FF every day and post anything interesting to FF most days. True addict methinks.
- Kol Tregaskes
up
- Bill Sanders
Up and ongoing
- Charlie Anzman
Down.... vacation, business travel, and too much noise...no time to tweak!
- Susan Beebe
just loved flashinthepan http://hypem.com/track/614721
I see you picked up this trick pretty quickly. :)
- Chuck Fishman
is wondering what distinguishes a good company from a great company
an environment where the employees are valued
- Chuck Fishman
Hum, unimpressive club visit. $2k plus $8k bar is a pricey bday. Now headed home to pack for trip to Mexico City tomorrow morning.
the "embarrassment of riches"
- Chuck Fishman
is now the right time to try the new facebook?
No, avoid at all costs.
- Chuck Fishman
I'm watching the new video for Santogold's "Lights Out." I bet Santogold ends up being one of my favorites of 2008.
Hahahaha ... Santogold was one of my favorites of 2007. I always seem to get these things a year ahead of when they hit because of the internet
- Chuck Fishman
Enjoyin' Pandora - thanks, Han. Can I get a Pandora-Intel chip embedded inside so I can mainline whatever song stream fits my moment's mood?
Pandora has many less mid to long tail artists. I recommend Last.fm - besides fONKSQUISh is there - http://www.last.fm/music... - though we are working on getting on Pandora too, which is a bit of a longer process.
- Chuck Fishman
Have you noticed that the word EVIL is LIVE spelled backwards?
Miles Davis - "Live Evil"
- Chuck Fishman
Grover Washington, Jr. – Knucklehead - http://www.last.fm/music...
This has been my jam the last 24 hours
- Chuck Fishman
Polymyx - Peter Pan Theory - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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cool man, this is one of the members of fONKSQUISh's thing ; we did this in Denver in 1999. It's a band called Polymyx led by Dwayne Wilson, one of my collab partners.
- Chuck Fishman
Hairless Mice - http://www.neatorama.com/2008...
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the flickr page linked in the blog has some awesome pics, too!
- felix
from Bookmarklet
:O
- Maryam Ardakani
you want to say this is mazidi oh no you worng
- MAS
Ugh, must... shield... eyes.
- ronin
I thought it was made of ground beef
- Chris Rivait
EW.
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
poor thing. So ugly. He must get cold.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Some of the little ones on the flickr page are supremely cute - i guess that's a bit before they lose their fur. :) These guys are like the sharpei of the rodent world. Well, if sharpei's didn't have fur, too.
- felix
Squeaky!!! you found Squeaky!! *comehereyoulittlemmmpphsshh*
- Bwana ☠
did you have a hairless mouse, Bwana? I had two with hair. Salt & Pepa. had this one joined the crew I guess she'd be... Paprika? (I want to come up with something wittier than that...)
- Kamilah Gill
Reminds me of my lady Troll fiend! LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
looks more like ground turkey! it's very gross looking
- David Ward
not gross, just misunderstood ;) poor thing.
- Kamilah Gill
I have a hairless cat, and he's awesome.
- Chuck Fishman
Mad Men Illustrations - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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From Dyna Moe (on Flickr): "Mad Men is a TV show on AMC. These are my drawings of people and things from the show."
- Mark Trapp
from Bookmarklet
Like like like!!! Except for the shoes, which are uncomfortable as all hades.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Mad Men is my summer obsession
- Jennifer Van Grove
from twhirl
I just realized someone I went on a teen tour with back in the day is on this show
- Chuck Fishman
Pete Rock & CL Smooth-T.R.O.Y. (They Reminisce Over You) - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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- Carlos Ayala
This joint = best. hip-hop. track. EVER
- Mona Nomura
ever hear Live at the BBQ by Main Source?
- Carlos Ayala
mona, i respectfully disagree. if you're talking all time, this has got to be an entry: http://www.youtube.com/watch.... even for pete rock, i'd have to go with Play Dis Only At Night
- Eric Eldon
Carlos: That is too obscure, even for me LOL @Eric: Jay-Z = business man :)
- Mona Nomura
ok ok ok...how about.......Whats the Scenerio???? Claaaaaaaaaaaasic!
- Carlos Ayala
oh yeah, and Jay-Z doesnt even make it into the top 100. sorry.
- Carlos Ayala
ATCQ = all sortsa WIN... and Carlos, that's stretching it. He is EASILY in the top 10, but definitely, not 5.
- Mona Nomura
jay-z? really? lyrically, musically? or profitability? i'll give him the latter by a longshot, the others...way too much comp out there for him to be considered.
- Carlos Ayala
Maybe top 20-25
- Corie
Overall package. That man's discography is insane! List your 10
- Mona Nomura
on a pop level? sure, no question. you want my ten, tracks? or lyricists?
- Carlos Ayala
pop? NO WAY. Jay-z IS hip-hop. Just because he is a business man, it doesn't make him 'pop'
- Mona Nomura
thats debateable, because even within the hip hop industry there are elements of pop. i call it urban pop. a current example....lil wayne. is he hip hop? hell no.
- Carlos Ayala
Are you kidding me? Please don't tell me, you're like KRS.. 9 elements in hip-hop? NO, dude. Hip-hop is hip-hop. Regardless of if you're 'mainstream' or 'underground'
- Mona Nomura
I'm sorry....Li'l Wayne isn't hip hop? that statement really does not compute for me...
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
want another example? kanye west? is he hip hop? hell no. but he was when he was a hungry producer.
- Carlos Ayala
So you have to be 'hungry' to 'be hip-hop'? FAIL! Ye IS hip-hop, too... Wait, what's your definition of 'hip-hop'?
- Mona Nomura
Hip Hop does not equal Rap. Rap does not equal Hip Hop. Proceed...
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
in reality its 4 elements. and in many ways i am like krs. see the thing is that true hip hop music is not radio friendly. therefore not marketable. what we are discussing are marketable acts. an no sorry, lil wayne is not even a rapper.
- Carlos Ayala
rahsheen, agreed. therefore my statements carry even more weight when you think of it this way.
- Carlos Ayala
hip-hop = culture, a way of life. if you're a part of the game, you are hip-hop.
- Mona Nomura
I just don't follow your argument regarding wayne...so, who is 'hip-hop' by your definition?
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
you are right mona. but the game has been skewed in such a way that it killed rap music. this happened in the 90's
- Carlos Ayala
Lil Wayne does say some ill stuff sometimes when the syssurp is hittin him just right, but it's quite possible he is something besides a rapper
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
So who 'killed it' then? Just curious.
- Mona Nomura
the purple drank? ;-)
- Corie
but we already established that hip hop does not equal rap...so what does the game being skewed have to do with hip hop? and I still dont know what constitutes hip hop for you, Carlos...
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
wayne is a fabrication that came out of the drug game. i get it. many have done this. but he is not a lyricist. think of guru, black thot, large prof., kool g rap, big daddy kane, most of the wu tang clan, nas, mf doom, and the like....then compare. see the difference?
- Carlos Ayala
wayne is a fabrication? I'm going to have to just drop this portion of the thread, because I really don't follow your argument, sorry.
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
So in your opinion, Weezy is what killed the game? (and i'm not a weezy fan, btw)
- Mona Nomura
The game was dead long before Weezy. Ain't I older than him? LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Carlos, I must respectfully say...you're buggin' out.
- Jason Toney
Mona - no, i just ended up singling him out. i think that where ever he came from is what killed the game. there are many issues here with the back end on the executive level. but you know the difference. look at he songs we are favoring on last, pandora and blip...its not lil wayne and the like. at least for me it isnt.
- Carlos Ayala
I refer to the Mighty Mos Def - "People talk about hip hop like it's some giant living on the hilltop coming down to visit the townspeople. We are hip hop. Me. You. Everybody."
- Jason Toney
Jason: !!!YES!!! thank you.
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
Regardless of whose fault it is, I love hip-hop (the entire culture and all of its elements), especially the music. Even if most artists produce hot beats & garbage lyrics, I still respect every single one of their hustles. To call them "not hip-hop", IMO is simply wrong :)
- Mona Nomura
Mos is a very intelligent dude. he knows what he is talking about. and he is one of the few that embodies hip hop....and can still be hollywood.
- Carlos Ayala
Mos is an actor, recently, more than an artist ;) Just saying. Who's on your top 10, Carlos?
- Mona Nomura
@jason maybe i am. but you will have to clarify your point a bit better.
- Carlos Ayala
mos studied acting. he is very well educated as well. he is both. he still dropping albums left and right.
- Carlos Ayala
Fair enough :-) Hip hop, by its very nature, is fluid, changing, constantly in flux. Today, more than ever, hip hop defies definition. It is a global yet highly localized force for communities of all stripes and types. To define hip hop MCs by such a narrow definition destroys the entire point of hip hop. We can all agree that Rakim and Nas are lyricist's supreme but that doesn't make them more hip hop than Rich Boys, Soulja Boys, or Lil' Waynes of right now.
- Jason Toney
so who's on your top 10 of all time? better yet, who's your G.O.A.T.
- Mona Nomura
these different areas of rhyme don't compete with each other, they complement each other. Unless, of course, somebody starts a cipher. Then, we'll see how they get down head to head. And that, sir, will be hella hip hop.
- Jason Toney
Nas <3 illmatic = best. album. of ALL time /end
- Mona Nomura
+1 Mister JT/Jason Toney
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
a top ten is hard for me...but off the top of my head i'd go with, in no particular order: mf doom, nas, black thought, guru, mos def, large prof, biggie, ghostface, rakim
- Carlos Ayala
missed one....lets tie it up and kool g rap, big daddy kane, and krs
- Carlos Ayala
ahhh.. wutang's and outkast's first albums bring back memories
- Rodfather
nice list :) but IMO, biggie (who i consider my top three, easily) was one of the main reason hip-hop went so 'commercial' per se.... just a thought
- Mona Nomura
Jason, well stated. I am with you on this. The issue I have, and I realize that it is my issue is that I have a problem with the quality of the product. And to my ears its that quality that denies it its place in hip hop. To me, what is out there (commercially)...is really not hip hop. Sure it came out of hip hop culture but I cannot embrace it. Its just very difficult for me to articulate it. Ultimately, its subjective.
- Carlos Ayala
Mona - you are absolutely right. Puff was one of the driving forces of the decline.
- Carlos Ayala
Mona in the house. You know your stuff. I'm impressed. :)
- Tsega Dinka
You guys are actually not disagreeing. You are all correct. Maybe it's all hip hop, but I agree with Carlos about not being able to fully embrace some of it. I'm not sure what it is, but it's there.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Tsega D: You learn something new, everyday, huh? ;) Carlos: It's not the Diddster's fault. He can't dance, and has a HORRIBLE flow, but the man can SELL. (even if he's the Grim Reaper of the industry) Biggie, bridged the gap b/w hot beats with INSANE lyrics. Diddy just capitalized on it.. So the Weezys, Jeezys, and the beezies...? HA! that came after, are not entirely at fault :). But I still love the music. I mean come ON, can you really groove to saaay Nas? Talib? Doom? up in the club?
- Mona Nomura
Carlos, I feel you on what's poppin' on the radio not being my particular cup of tea. My favorite hip hop releases this year are all mixtape joints from the likes of Wale, Rhymefest, and Kidz in the Hall. But that's the point -- we're at this point where there are hundreds of hip hop albums each year. Just 10 or 15 years ago, there were probably only 25 - 50 a year that mattered. Who cares if Weezy is at the top of the heap if the heap is a mile high?
- Jason Toney
and just to give context of my listening habits - last.fm says my top hip hop artists of the last year are: Rhymefest, Wale, Madlib, Jay-Z, M.I.A., Talib Kweli, De La Soul, Kanye West, Common, J Dilla.
- Jason Toney
Donuts =)
- Mona Nomura
Well, while we at it. The G.O.A.T. is actually here: http://bit.ly/4yMPg9
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Believe me I know, I freelanced for bad boy's marketing dept for almost 3 years; after biggie was gone. I know what he was capable of first hand. But honestly, the music I am arguing against does not move me, it actually brings me down. But I know what you are saying and I know that if we were in a club on the dance floor together...i assure you that i would not walk away if one of these wack tracks came on. i'd make it happen, no question.
- Carlos Ayala
thanks for the discussion all, i wish this had taken place face to face...time to clock some ZZZZzzzz's. nite all.
- Carlos Ayala
LOL @ Rah's shameless plug HAHA!! @Carlos, indeed, it was a good discussion. I haven't talked about music in a while, so it was nice =) I'm about to head to bed too. G'nite, y'all!
- Mona Nomura
Whoa. So much discussion stemmed from this classic track. What about Pete Rock?! Guys who just rock it. I used to drop this track whenever I could in the club. One of THE classic old skool tracks that just has that 'vibe'. Still listen to a lot of hiphop, but it definitely ain't what it used to be. Ever since the Chronic where the game changed. And that's the beauty of hiphop. It evolves. Whenever they say it's dead, it changes form.
- Mike Chang
@Mona, what kind of hustla would I be if I didn't "pass my cd" to obvious music lovers? LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Hey -I respect your hustle, yo! ;)
- Mona Nomura
mona remind me not to get into another deep discussion at 4am. That was tough on me. ;) but I got alot of adds as result. (I've since reciprocated) too bad more peeps did not participate, I would have had a crew behind me. J/k @mike pete rock is one of the staples of hip hop there is no question about it. "I won't stop rockin til I retire!" a record like troy was needed to spark this convo.
- Carlos Ayala
in other news, lil Wayne is still crazy wack. But I wish I had his loot.
- Carlos Ayala
Come on, aren't any of you old enough to know the hippy original, Tom Scott's "Today" ?? Get it here. Go about 1:43 into the song. http://www.fileden.com/files...
- Chuck Fishman
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