I like having each service as an individual contact. Much easier. Can we see the same for Pownce?
- Chris Nixon
Well, IMified has taken bot to a next level.. I even created a customized option to check my google calendar appointments for today (a quick schedule for today) by interacting with bot! Not sure, if they have one for Pownce..
- Jigar Mehta
from bTT
One year later. Just bumping this because it's the one year anniversary of the only item on FriendFeed to get more than 400 likes. (452 at the moment)
- Ken Sheppardson
@Andrew Wooldridge LOL! That brightened up my day!
- Charlie Hope
from twhirl
hm? I just assumed you meant a new blog post. Do you mean a whole new blog site? Now I'm even more curious.
- Lise
It's not actually the same. Apparently you can set your own board and rules at the beginning of a game. I haven't played yet but I was looking at it this morning.
- Corie
Those clever brothers have given us the tools to build any board we want by placing the value "squares" ourselves and determining the distribution of the tiles and their values - a board that can be saved as a template for future games. Build once, use often. So of course we're all building clones of the Scrabulous board, it being one of the possible permutations. The only things missing are the two blanks. Hasbro/Mattel must be livid.
- Bob Kingsley
Pownce is best, but it is too unactive, twitter is too unstable and replying is annoying, plurk is weird, identi.ca is even weirder. So I think best micro-blog is kwippy, or Pownce.
- k00pa
Hmm for real convosations it must be plurk for sharing pownce for alerting something new twitter identi.ca just open freaks kwippy for fun.. I would say plurk for mirco BLOGing.
- JegerPhil - Phil
I hate Twitter & Plurk & Identi.ca. Pownce is ok but I think Kwippy is best.
- ChaCha Fance
what about jaiku ? It didn't make the list...
- yvons
Pownce probably is the best but Twitter still has a much larger user base, Plurk is childish and identi.ca has nothing different other than login with OpenID. I'm still trying out Kwippy
- João Almeida
from twhirl
I wish Pownce was big as Twitter, that would make it the best. But I'm commenting on FriendFeed. Go figure.
- phil baumann
I'm begining to think of Disqus as a micro blogging format. it does have a linear quality as well. and it takes in Seesmic which I like
- Noah David Simon
Jaiku and youare are not on list, because I forgot that them also exist.
- k00pa
I am a Jaiku fan: best of all these worlds. Too bad Google killed it... ;(
- Barbara K. Baker
Twitter for rate of growth (but not for quality), Pownce for quality but not mass. I'm not big on Plurk, but I'm trying out Kwippy this week and like the idea so far.
- Garza
Twitter for ease-of-use, simple GUI, first to market.
- Rebecca Povio
the new Gtalk with open social is going to be kewl
- paisley
Plurk, not perfect but great GUI and more addictive than the rest
- Kol Tregaskes
from twhirl
I'm still missing the point on Kwipp, it looks like just another Twitter clone, at least Plurk has a different twist on it
- João Almeida
I think friendfeed is best for both microblogging and conversations
- Svartling
is this link, comment baiting, what... do you really WANT to know or do you just want to get a lot of worked up replies? Cause if you REALLY want to know, ping me and I'll tell you.
- John McElhenney 2.0
@JMac by suggesting you have THE answer, you kinda missed the point.
- Brian Carter
I hope it will be only Friendfeed soon. Doesn't anybody else get tired of all these different kind of networks? Sometimes monopoly is a good thing. Let's all head over to MSN ;-)
- Rutger Blom
from twhirl
mine is a little more extreme - friendfeed mostly & twitter rarely - i do push my ff's to twitter & i check my twitter replies & dm sometimes - i would like to get to the point where all my friends are in friendfeed and i no longer need to go to twitter at all - i used to like whales ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Agree. They are different and both ueful in different ways. I see no need to choose between them just yet. I'm using Plurk too, which is different again - very informal conversation.
- jjprojects
Disagree. Reason? Time. I don't have time for multiple services. For me, right now at least, it's FF.
- Steve Rubel
You don't need one to use the other but they sure are handy to use together
- John Blanton
from twhirl
Haven't maid up my mind yet, but it seems that the different services and their approaches fill different needs. Undecided for now!
- tekspectator
Exactly! Why does it have to be "either" "or"?
- Steve
I definitely agree. It is frustrating to have people insist one is better than the other. Two totally different beasts.
- Shawn Farner
from twhirl
could not agree more. probably the best twitter, FF comment in a long time.
- Bastian
Agree! At this point, FF's comment functionality isn't good enough to replace Twitter for me. With Twhirl, it doesn't seem like tool overload to use both.
- jen robinson
from twhirl
Apart from twitter's SMS interface.. what is missing (for you) in FF? @ ?
- Kishore Balakrishnan
Its FF only. reaons against Twitter : (a) Twitter whaling to often (b) not easy to track/thread twitter replies together. FOR FF (1) FF stable (2) FF Conov enabler/agggreagator (3) I like it better :)-
- Peter Dawson
An integrated solution with both would be best. Twittering out of FriendFeed - that's my dream!
- Matthias Schwenk
Oh definitely agree. They are symbiotic beasts
- Deepak Singh
Agree absolutely, when social media tools complement, the sum become greater than the parts
- Charlie Hope
from twhirl
@ Matthias you can comment back from FF in Twitter already...
- Charlie Hope
from twhirl
and, and, and... there's Utterz, Flickr, blog, etc. etc. etc. -- so, yes. It all goes together. FriendFeed has a chance to become a hub (the way Twitter is foe me now, but more so), if it can somehow tame itself
- Doug Haslam
from twhirl
Funny how this comes to my attention now as Twitter is not updating for me, but FF is. I love how I can reply to FF via @Twhirl. That is a dynamic combintion.
- Tracy Lee Carroll
from twhirl
@Matthias I wonder if someone has created a tool that takes your own FF posts and makes a tweet from it? You'd need to turn off tweets in FF otherwise there would be a feedback loop that would eventually destroy the universe.
- Elliot Tucker
elliot: twitterfeed does that, put in your ff atom feed and remove your twitter feed from ff
- mike "glemak" dunn
Agree....finally somebody comes out and says it as it should be said :)
- Arjun
it's both right now - if you have group of people in Twitter then it is both - otherwise the conversation is moving more into friendfeed on a greater range of topics so for those not so tied to twitter it is twitter or friendfeed
- Riaz Kanani
Disagree. Twitter has crossed the line. It is dead to me and too much of the time it is dead to everyone.
- Dave Slusher
I kind of agree. There's too much noise on FriendFeed to have simple, conversational, exchanges.
- Bill Bittner
If Twitter doesn't get its act together, it will be FriendFeed and no Twitter. I'm revisiting FriendFeed today after a nice hiatus
- Michael Koby
from Alert Thingy
This is be being real: I love Twitter, and don't get me wrong, I think FriendFeed is cool, too.. but I think Facebook will ultimately adopt the killer features of both and wipe them out.
- Shawn Farner
from twhirl
Elliot, you can try feeding your FF entries feed into Twitterfeed.com.
- Dewald Pretorius
Agree; tell me though, does Pownce = Twitter + FriendFeed [or vice-versa] or am I just being thick? Twhirl posts to Pownce for me as well, but taking Rafe Needleman's advice and not tracking multiple communities. FF good for posts too long for Twitter
- Justin Guy Souter
from twhirl
FriendFeed > Twitter for me. I feel more value when I post here first.
- Steve Isaacs
agree, and, in between Twitter and Friendfeed , many other indispensible things are included.
- Nikos Anagnostou
Both - but grudgingly. Honestly? The only reason I go to FF is because some of my Twitterpals migrated here and won't come back. Twitter is my main gal - FF is my Friday night stand-in. If I could do away with FF I would.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Twitter is too myopic to last much longer. Our online lives are a lot more complicated than 140 characters.
- David Weiner
How much time to we all have?? There are use cases for both twitter and friend feed. Some people WILL choose one or the other. There are functional aspects that i like about both. For me it is both.
- Rodney Rumford
Its neither - it's what fits your structure and how you want to connect. If you want actual conversations and build on relationpships, IMO, Plurk is good at that. FF seems too cluttered but aggregates a lot information together. Twitter is still good for me and is a great broadcast tool, some communication, and a lot of industry heads that you can learn from.
- Sonny Gill
It's becoming less and less so. I'd much rather have one service I can do it all on and FriendFeed satisfies that much better. Twitter still has things FF doesn't though so for what FF doesn't satisfy, I will continue to use Twitter for.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
I suppose I could go with the AND if FF offered a pure stream like twitter. I really don't like the threaded conversation presentation ... but maybe that's because I mostly use twirl?
- Clint
You're almost right. I get what you're getting at. But the two are different and will grow separate paths with some common features.
- phil baumann
phil, if they do grow in separate paths, that's great! I'll continue using both! However, I will not continue to use both for the same reasons. I'm removing the duplicate effort lately and consolodating what I can over to FriendFeed, leaving the remaining effort to Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
My other concern is that Twitter just doesn't have the expertise up high to make it a successful service. You will see the FF founders frequently engaged in conversations about FF on their service. I have yet to see a single Twitter founder engage in any of the critiques or compliments about their service on Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
FF ideal for social discovery as long as folks hooking up enough of their services. I like the "noise" of FF.
- Stephen Francoeur
...and Plurk, and Facebook, and Pownce, and Jaiku, and more to come. Twitter for its simplicity and all the add-on apps and all the others for conversations or smaller groups with specific interests.
- Brenda Young
Twitter acts as a "back-channel" and can have multiple layers to follow, which is difficult to do within Twitter (web or clients) directly. Here's an example of @amandachapel mentioning our research.
- Dan Keldsen
Reminds me of that line in Snatch when someone went missing,"Not like it's a set of car keys or pack of cigarettes. What do you mean it's missing?"
- Mark Forman
Where in the world is the Twitter database? Is there a reward for it's return?
- Michael McGimpsey
from twhirl
@MM yeah the reward is good karma at Plurk :D
- Mark Forman
I think I saw it floating down the street here in Minnesota. Oh Wait that was my server I'm being told. Hey wait come back here I didn't say you could float away server.
- David Newberger
from twhirl
Not from what I've seen of it. Plurk just doesn't do it for me.
- William Beem
Never going to understand the "-killer" mentality. If companies like Novell are still around, then almost any company can survive on the merits of their technology. It's running out of cash that kills them - not other products.
- Ray Grieselhuber
well Ray, Sony is not running out of cash, although the iPod killed the Walkman...:)
- Benoit Octave
from Alert Thingy
Stephen is totally right. Plurk is conversation, chat. Twitter is broadcast (with conversation tacked on to it). Very different beasts, and Plurk will be much more popular in the long run with a younger crowd.
- Ian Betteridge
How many more of such message will we see, comparing Plurk with Twitter?
- Winston Teo
While the interface is "neat" I agree, it's hard to use. The mobile version is much more my style.
- Joel Gray
from bTT
@Winston as many as there were Twitter-FriendFeed comparisons no doubt
- Chinkerfly
from twhirl
Bah! Plurk Sucks IMHO. Its Too Teeny Boppy. Agree with @Stephen; Teens will love it.
- Parth Awasthi
Argh, stupid Twhirl screwed up my first attempt. Anyway, I disagree with the "it's too teeny boppy" argument. The reason why Facebook and esp MySpace is so popular is that the majority of their users are teeny boppers and mainstream users. So the fact Plurk is seeing more mainstream users right off the bat is a GOOD sign IMO.
- Bob Ngu
from twhirl
Thwirl gives me a "unknown username or password" kind of error message and refuses to log me into Twitter. Bummer, haven't changed a thing. For now I refuse to do a re-install.
- Alexander van Elsas
Twhirl can be better. Add more features. You have community. Use local store. Save social graph. Become the next Twitter. U CAN!
- Mohamed J
keep up the good work Loic and Congrats on the excellent growth!
- Susan Beebe
he knows. i just tried to send a message (and post it with his name) with mail2ff but it failed.
- Timo Heuer
It works, it rocks; now why can I not use other IM providers?
- Robert Miller
Yes Joe, I did reset the key after posting this screenshot :)
- Amit Agarwal
so what's happened to Friendfeed@talk.friendfeed.com?
- Charlie Hope
from twhirl
@Amit cool I was worried you could be open to abuse, @Charlie that's just for the status!
- Joe Dawson
so what's happened to Friendfeed@talk.friendfeed.com?
- Charlie Hope
from twhirl
Yes, this is really cool! I have already got it in place and have been using it from some time.. Just thinking when will we get two way communication over XMPP or jabber!
- Jigar Mehta
from bTT
How do you guys use the 'hide' feature on FriendFeed. Is it to mark something you have read, something you aren't interested, something you have become bored of, or a combination of them all?
I use the hide feature to hide services I'm not interested in seeing (twitter, unless they have comments or likes, Upcoming, etc) I rarely hide a single item.
- Alejandro
Same as Alejandro, services or discussions on services that I have no interest in hearing about. Also, duplicates, (Flickr, SmugMug, Zooomr) where people post the same photos to all three services at once.
- cmiper
Cheers guys...especially the link to Louis' post. I missed that one
- Chris Nixon
Hide all Twitter, Last.fm, and Upcoming entries unless they are liked/commented on.
- Benjamin Golub
Updated my mobile FF rant and am pleased to be able to do so ;)
- Colin Walker
wow, the iphone version is nice. doesn't look that much different than online.
- Rob Diana
Just tried this on my Treo 700p and it seems pretty sweet. @Colin @acedanger - I have mine memorized too....it is sad.
- elroy
It even works on a Blackberry - that is way cool @bgolub
- Sally Church
Hmm...it doesn't pull up on my iPhone like the picture...shows full-size and the text is too small.
- Paul Arterburn
beautiful job. writing this from my treo 700wx, the world's worst cell phone. if it works here it will work for anyone. thank you for developing this.
- Michael Pardee
So sweet. Working great on my Palm Centro! Good job folks!
- Dan Nimtz
from twhirl
@JP try again? I just had some errors that I fixed
- Benjamin Golub
tried and get "whoops something went wrong" when I try to comment.
- Thomas Hawk
Sweet, gotta try it at lunch, my colleagues won't be happy with me though.
- Caleb Elston
Very nicely done. That is just what I was looking for in a mobile version of FF!
- Scott Jarkoff
I look forward to trying this on my iPod..as soon as I can find a wireless connection.
- Mike Lewis
Not working for me :( Just to be specific, when I put in my username and key and click "Login" it just goes back to the sign in screen. I've tried several times.
- Vince DeGeorge
Sigh; Google App Engine has for some reason stopped sending authorization headers. I'm looking into it.
- Benjamin Golub
Not working for me either. Can't log in.
- Morton Fox
Regular Friendfeed works great on my iPod.
- RAPatton
I'll have to try this (1st gen Moto Q with Windows Mobile 5 and IE4)
- Ontario Emperor
I love all the rapid innovation that's going on here! Nice job Benjamin :)
- Aviv
Looks very nice on the iPhone, but where is the search functionality? Thanks for your time and hard work developing a great app Benjamin.
- James
It seems to work ok on my SE P1i, but I dont really like this remote key thing...
- Fredrik Wennberg
from fftogo
unless you have Verizon for your carrier. Brightkite won't work with Verizon either (in my experience)
- Greg Hollingsworth
from twhirl
Atleast the FriendFeed remote key is easy to remember. Very "human like". I already memorized mine by the third time I had to punch it in
- Bartek Ciszkowski
Twitter doesn't work (properly) with Verizon, either. I never get device updates.
- Steve Lynch
from Alert Thingy
funny twitter works for me fine on my verizon phone but not at all on my N75 w/ATT
- Morgan
from twhirl
Iv'e got the same problem as Vince DeGeorge on WM6
- rodmitch
testing FriendFeed for mobile right now. pretty neat! thanks @louisgray
- Myriam
from fftogo