Hah proves my point of the Lite version not being a twitter killer =D Western media is crazy they don't understand why a company would make a lighter version of the site!
- | Balu |
As I said in another case it doesn't matter. That drop comes just before the massive influx of new users in four to six months from now. That's especially true if they don't disappear into being nothing once more.
- Richard A.
Richard: You are right but My feeling is that Friendfeed is a lot quiter now then before Facebook. So I think these stats will be a lot worse in a couple of months.
- Svartling
from iPhone
Looks like a lot of people *have* bailed. Enough people here hate Facebook so much, they're willing to destroy FriendFeed... :(
- Dennis Jernberg
One announcement from Paul, Bret or any of the FF team could turn this around in a heartbeart ... If that's what they want to do going forward.
- Charlie Anzman
Dennis: I don't think it is the people that destroys friendfeed, it was the Acquisition that did it.
- Svartling
Charlie: Yes if we could be Assured that friendfeed will still be developed as before and will remain an open system, then it will survive.
- Svartling
I'd like to see the ability to comment on someones else comment, instead of doing the @ thing, why not have a button after the persons name (once they made a comment) that says 'reply' and it turns into a threaded like thingy. Something like what DISQUS does with they're reply system (below)
I don't. It won't be realtime anymore. And it would break the conversation into parallel discussions :(
- Jérôme
i'd like to see replies to comments, with each comment still in 1 chronological thread. similar to how forum quoting works
- Mike Chelen
I'd like to have a dropdown menu from the comment icon with several options including 'reply'. Then have a 'My Replies' page to view them all that are posted to me.
- Kol Tregaskes
I'd like to see that, too. the comment system we use on FF now seems a little bit of mass if one topic have too many comments.
- yagami
love the way it is now, and would also like additional comment reply options such Kol mentions
- Mike Chelen
But, I would like to see a formalized reply system. Heck, I would even be happy with @replies, using the FriendFeed username like twitter dows. That way, anyone who starts a comment with @jworthington, I could not only see it on a Mentions page but it would be highlighted in some way live on the page, maybe using a light yellow background or some type of font adjustment. Threaded conversations don't work in realtime. They may work in some static, after the fact reading but for real time conversations, no.
- Johnny
Let's divide this request into two components: new functionality (threaded or multi-tier comment tree), and implementation (special button or dropdown menu to invoke comment threading). Ad #1: I don't know much about FFeeders intentions, but it looks pretty clear-cut to me that hierarchical comments never have been on the agendum. With luck it'll stay this way [and some of us know why,...
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- ianf ⌘
To those who don't think threaded conversations work in realtime, don't forget that FF is not real time for many users. I live in Australia but most of the conversations I have here are with people from the US. They're not often realtime and as such it can be difficult to keep track of multiple threads in a conversation when there is no easy way to see who is replying to whom, and when.
- Mark
@ianf I think your suggestion of hypertextual links would be a good compromise. There should also be a link added to the comment being responded to so that one can jump directly to the response, as well as being able to click on a link in the response to be able to jump back up to the comment being responded to.
- Mark
@Mark, I second your suggestion. The "Reply" button should, IMO, immediately opens a new comment textbox prefixed with "@someone" as a hyperlink. The "@someone" hyperlink might be outside the textbox (to prevent accidental edit/deletion), and when the "Post" button is clicked, that hyperlink will be clickable (duh), pointing directly to the Comment that's being replied.
- Pandu ● IT Optimizer
I dunno, looks fantastic but think of how much cleaning you'd have to do. The screen would all be fingermarks, and what would happen to eating in front of the computer while working, which I seem to do a lot of the time?
- Giulia B.
While still fake, the screenshot claims it could run iPhone apps AND native OS X apps. Look at Safari on the right. This would really be awesome if they do take that route.
- Hector
Isn't there work like this in a development channel to make a table-like computer that is 100% touch and bluetooth? Any links or news? especially since I just bought a new MacBookPro...awesome.
- Jimmy Watson
Interesting concept. I like the idea. But the one thing that would be interesting to see is: how does the designer of this "MacInTouch" propose to handle the menu that are part of a normal OS X application. I can definitely see a "MacInTouch" being a big iPod Touch and allow multiple iPhone applications to run in separate windows and if the application was marked to allow for multiple...
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- Paul Franz
Interesting non statistically-enforced numbers.
- Marco ILLESCAS
Friendfeed users sophisticated? :-) well twitter and blogs were no surprise, but 6.1 service connected and google reader percentage is higher than expected.
- testbeta
Interesting, the mail UX is one of the main reason I hate the site, their inbox is of no use to me!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
I'm sure I'm being dense here, but what's the benefit for me as a user?
- Tinfoil 2.0
Logical the benefit is that you'll soon be able to manage your Facebook messages in clients such as Seesmic, similar to how you do DMs
- Jesse Stay
from iPhone
Isn't it only one way? I thought i read that somewhere...
- Frankie Warren
Frankie, as I said in my post, yes, you can only read inboxes, not post to them currently. That doesn't stop you from including a link back to Facebook to let them post though.
- Jesse Stay
So ... I'm going to get a notification in my Gmail account that I have a Facebook email?
- dkb
dkb you can do that already - just set it up in your privacy settings on Facebook
- Jesse Stay
Riiight. I guess I'll have to wait and see it in action. Doesn't make sense to me, but I could be missing something.
- dkb
A calm and considered response shows a mature acceptance of the issue. Where others get all excited, Twitter says calm down it's not that big a deal.
- Gilbert Harding
from BuddyFeed
I wonder what Arrington means in his latest tweet about keeping other sites from publishing the emails? He was defending his right to post them a few hours ago
- Mark
Probably, I think the people @ Twitter are working real hard on getting rid of all the spam, that's why we are seeing a decrease in the number of followers/removed tweets from Twitter Search
- Ahmed
it's an arbitrary removal from search based upon subjective criteria which may or may not be true.
- Karoli
Haven't seen this yet. Though I would be interesting. Currently working on a Drupal site that filters local tweets since we've been invaded by Gurus and Social Marketing twits.
- Dean Clark
the one common thread I've been able to find in the ones I know of is that they all tweeted with regard to the #iranelection with that tag.
- Karoli
I've searched for tweets which I specifically remember based on memorable keywords, only to find them missing from Twitter search. It's been happening for months.
- Jackie Danicki
Yap ,,, mine as well are not in the search...you can find them in FF but not there
- Johni Fisher
Ya, I only have 3.25 pages showing up yet I have 300+ tweets.... It could also be blamed on a "hardware issue" or a "process saver".
- Adam
Most of my twitpic tweets are missing. Not that I think it's necessarily a big deal, but it is a little odd.
- malackey
Jackie, some people's entire streams are removed. If you do a from: search on them you will get no result
- Karoli
Also, many of the people removed from search entirely are engaged, legit long-term Twitterzens.
- Karoli
Robert, this has been going on for months. I had to write a post that has fixed dozens of accounts in the past week alone. Tweet >> Have *YOU* been "FILTERED OUT" of Twitter's Search feature? Many have been. Get the test & FIX here: http://bit.ly/ShoqTips
- Shoq
I'm still bummed Summize doesn't index every tweet >:[ Twitter is setting itself too much stock that new tweets are more relevant than older ones...
- CannonGod
There are several manifestations. Even though my account is fixed, many tweets simply vanish into an index wormhole. They can be found in my updates, but NOT by search.
- Shoq
and then there is the problem of having accounts restored, only to discover that any tweets prior to restoration are never, ever available in search again.
- Karoli
i guess @ev is banned. do from:ev, you get nothing. now do http://bit.ly/RvKNZ & you'll see his tweets. i suspect from:TWITTERNAME does indicated a filter in many cases but not necessarily in them all. Twitter search has been losing posts for months, especially if you do advanced searches http://bit.ly/Imtq1 but stuff from @shoq @karoli is really helpful -- hopefully Twitter will get their act together more & make things clearer
- dannysullivan
Its not just loosing ,they have some words that you cant find at all or cant find after a date ,,,this problem is from the first days of June
- Johni Fisher
thanks, danny. don't know about @ev, but if you look at @delbius' stream, you'll see how many replies are terse "you may have posted a malware link", or something similar. No pointer, no warning, no nothing to tell you why you're removed. But she makes it clear that people *were* removed.
- Karoli
I am not a spamer and never posted a malware link, but they took out our company name from the search ,,,,,simple as that ,if they are happy I am happy for them too
- Johni Fisher
I do see where ev's account was hacked. perhaps he decided to keep it offline and out of search.
- Karoli
Yes - i blogged about it and then followed twitter folks around until they released me from twitter purgatory - someone tweeted about this earlier - I will have to dig it up. It takes time, dedication, and persistence to get back into the steam...
- bev
When I post in reply within trends, I cannot see my tweets within the stream. I contacted Twitter and they said they knew it was an ongoing issue and instead of correct it... closed my ticket.
- Nile Flores
Earlier, all results for the search "textPlus" - GOGII's iPhone app were missing, but now they're back.
- drew olanoff
I was filtered for some time -- don't know the start because I didn't know to look.Restored for 4 hours then filtered again for about 20 hours, now back to full feed. I have no idea why I was filtered. I did use tweetlater.com to announce a friend's non-profit petiiton (about 12 tweets over 48 hours, not much variation). All my tweets from before filtering are gone from search. Not a big issue for me as I don't rely on, but could be very hard for a tweeple for business.
- Liz
Every time you post "FriendFeed" a sparrow dies.
- Alan Chamberlain
Mine are and I contacted Crystal. It's not personal. It's a known issue.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
@salspizza This discovery by @scobleizer affects you, even though you don't sell pizza.
- Bernie Goldbach
mark it's not personal but it is intentional in many cases. this comes straight from delbius. people's accounts are suspended for amorphous rule breaking that they're completely unaware of.
- Karoli
from BuddyFeed
I usually notice the opposite, that deleting a tweet has little value because it still appears in the search DB
- Keith Barrett
I hate Twitter's unpolicy on pretty much everything.
- Jason Nunnelley
I wouldn't take it too hard kevin. better than comparing friendfeed to syphilis, no? point is, this is the way to disperse mobs. like tear gas.
- MG Siegler
That headline is absolutely a biatch move.
- Rah-PM 2012
I understand the metaphor, MG. It's just not a very well-crafted one. It doesn't give people pain/punishment and make them go away. It just sets up a barricade.
- Kevin Fox
Does anyone not see the comedy (is that the right word) for the use of "firehose" when discussing realtime access interfaces and the use of the firehose on... wait for it... mobs? :-)
- Jay Cuthrell
It's no secret that Arrington doesn't get FF and will bash it at every opportunity.
- Kenton
I'd suggest a feature called "rubber hose" where you can inflict corporal punishment similar to the old AIM "warn" feature for bad chatters -- this of course in keeping with all of our favorite riot police and mob control tool metaphors
- Jay Cuthrell
Kevin - eventually you will learn...
- Allen Stern
Christopher: I think where Michael was taking discussion was that any review of highly shared or directed content online (think about those news stories that direct to a comment enabled newspaper or TV station) brings out people saying things they probably wouldn't say in front of their grandparents (you'd think). So, the concern is that FF shouldn't be a devolved interface as much as a improved and evolved interface that takes into account modern crowd management techniques parlayed into software.
- Jay Cuthrell
Christopher: Contrary to popular opinion, product roadmaps do not typically include a "Make Mike Happy" subsection. However, this is a perceived emotional buffer overflow. I don't presume to know what Mike did or didn't feel when he went through the period of unchecked crowd feedback. Also, sports analogies don't really serve you well here... soccer fanatics and so-called hoodlums are not well regarded for their civil and pristine approach to consensus building discussions. P.S. I'm done.
- Jay Cuthrell
C'mon with the headline. Just be glad he wasn't picked to write the TC feature on todays Office announcements.
- Arawak
Sex sells - unless you are with a tech journal - in which case you go with what you have got.
- Tim Tyler
Heh, so at what point is MG going to disable comments on _this_ thread ;)
- Ahsan Ali
Sigh. This is so disappointing on so many counts. For one, the elitism of Silicon Valley in an application that was striving for some open-ended usage (I won't say they saw the direction of this, because I don't think they did). But succumbing to the forces of the elite just shows how silly it all is. Put ads up, FF. Reveal your investors. Do whatever you've been holding back from doing, because it really doesn't matter. Pffft.
- anna sauce
I'm surprised nobody though to ask how much Arrington paid FF to put in a "mob teargas" feature? I love FF, but this...is just...idiotic. What's the point of subscribing to someone's feed if they just disable comments on everything? The point of FF, or the way I've been using it, is as a discussion place and a kind of lifestream. Disabling comments just seems like an easy out to let...
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- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
What's the point of only getting comments from your followers? Goodbye open-ness. I wouldn't have made 1/2 or more the connections I've made if it was closed. Let's just admit that Arrington doesn't know how to use FF.
- anna sauce
Perhaps the OP should put in a controversial last word - and then immediately disable future comments! ;-)
- Tim Tyler
Next: immutable comments! You know the enterprise will want them - but you know how much the community will hate them!
- Tim Tyler
Can't you do immutable posts already by DMing them to someone's feed?
- Tyson Key
@Tim - I was wondering earlier about what would happen if they eventually implemented support for selectively disabling "Likes". That would probably take away the only lowest-common-denominator/"universally usable" interaction method.
- Tyson Key
I think the headline is inappropriate for a minor change in the UI.
- John (bird whisperer)
And articles like this are proof as to why you don't coddle crybabies like Arrington.
- Steven Perez