Cibeles - Likes - FriendFeed

That poor cat looks so confused. - Kendra <3 Three Lions

but it's so warm on top of the scanner! - DJF

Time for a cat scan! - Jemm

Iz I the right way up for printing? - Vicky

This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws. - Soup

LOL, Soup! - Kol Tregaskes

that is one adorable kitten! - Anna Lynn M.

<3 - Furkan Tunalı

Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out... - Greg Lato

Kitty!!!! - Janice

keep trying! - Morgan Haley

FEED ME A CAT - tehKenny, Dork

Kol, it is NOT impossible. And that's all I'm saying. - Steven Perez

Push harder - Josh Haley

LOL@Jemm - AJ Batac

آخی - یک بابک

Hehe, Steven. I won't ask. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Gosh, just noticed this post has nearly 150 likes! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

1 closer....hilarious! - Jeffrey Marsh

There we go 150 likes. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

I'm in ur faxx masheen -- sendin de faxxez.... - Stephanie Segel

I think you mean a LIVE cat… - Glen, Bespectacled Elder

thanks, i needed a laugh - chaz2b

FAXCAT IS NOT AMUSED - Karl Knechtel

iz dat some copycat? - bora "head" basman

LOL, now nearly 200 likes! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Thats no fax machine, thats my new patented kitty juicer! - Threepwood

Just one more like... please. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

it's over two huuunddreeeed - bora "head" basman

MOAR! - Pat Hawks

I need 9 copies please ! - Faraz Mullick

A cute cat :) - Mohammad Abdurraafay

Haha, Faráz. - Kol Tregaskes

Next target, 250 likes. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

اخي...گناهي - noonii

Friendfeed loev faxcat :o - Karl Knechtel

;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Pussy by fax. What will they think of next? - Mattb4rd

X)) - Nia

OMGosh, next up is the 300 likes mark. Anyone care to join in? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Honestly, i'm not generally a fan of the Cat memes... But that is classic. - Alistair (alpinefolk)

You know this is the 7th most liked entry on FriendFeed ever: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... !!! - Kol Tregaskes

Kol, this thread is pure genius. - Alex Scoble

But only almost 50 comments.. :) - Simon Wicks

Simon, there's not much to comment regarding the picture :) But meta-comments are more than appropriate! - Ivan Zuzak

Simon, yeah we need 1500+ comments now, who wants to start? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

there we go then for the 1500+!! - Jaap Willem

1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers. - Simon Wicks

Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

OK, now it's the 4th: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... - it's gonna take a huge effort to break the record of 452+ likes here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... - Kol Tregaskes

OK, now this is the 3rd most liked entry: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... :-D Crazy! - Kol Tregaskes

Too bad I am fresh out of likes of I would do it again. - JSNFLMNG

¡Excelente! - Marcos Vicente

I'm using this photo in the latest chapter of can haz murder - anna sauce

Hehe, Anna. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

One more for 350 likes, LOL. This is mental! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Come on, 350 cats for a cat getting crushed? You guys are mean. :-P - Richard A.

I'd like again if I could :-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev

bump - Simon Wicks

Richard, LOL! - Kol Tregaskes

Awesomely funny! - Martha

Next target: 400 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

theres one more for you Kol - Toby Graham

Toby, you're very kind. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Cute *_* - Sybelle

Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

Just 6 more likes for the 400 then I'll leave you alone. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

can you spare a cat 6 likes? - JSNFLMNG

sweet - Eric Hofmann

Haha, Jason, wow 406 likes, madness! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

Madness? THIS. IS. FAX CAT. - Mike Nayyar

Well 452 likes is the record, hmm I think that is pushing it. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Awesome. - Alex Scoble

this is underfaksink at its worzt - Petr Buben

Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" .. - Petr Buben

Ah, OK, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :] - Petr Buben

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

OMGosh, just 23 more likes to beat this: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

433 Like ! Wow ! - Like

Freemor, yes very cute! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

cute~ - Chan Pen

that's why is called a cat scan and not a cat fax. - Phil Maxwell

oh ... a scan. not fax?! .... it looked to me like she was faxink - Petr Buben

Just 5 more likes needed. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Try rolling the cat through a press first. Flat cats fit into the fax easier. - Bob Blunk

Fax, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test) - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Ok, over the top now. - Greg Guitarbuster

Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes). - Roberto Bonini

I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little - Steve C

Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

They fax much better if you flatten them first. What? - Kevin Pedraja

LOL, Kevin. - Kol Tregaskes

i can also imagine the cat going there cause it is snug and warm - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Ey, it would be a tad warm on there, especially after a long working day. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Caption which needs to be said aloud: Uh Ohz, I'm totally FAXED! - sofarsoShawn

Hehe, Shawn. 10 more for the big 5-0-0. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Countdown! 8 more now! - Mike Nayyar

bump for more likes - Josh Haley

bump - Roberto Bonini

One more!! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

I took mine away, too much pressure. - Steve C

Wow, there we go, 500 likes!! Thank you all!! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

I think Fax Kitty deserves a prize for that. - Kendra <3 Three Lions

меня, признаться, подзаебал этот кот - Парадокс Смейла

пиздец как! - getalifejerk

Kendra, absolutely. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all! - Kol Tregaskes

My like is the last one so far :) - 509 afaik - getalifejerk

did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician) - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

wish I could double like! - metalerik

Wish I could just like it at all. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

This is also still on the Best of page. That must be the longest running best of post? :-) - Kol Tregaskes

But it's a cat being crushed... - Richard A.

برای چی این همه لایک خورده؟؟؟؟؟ - H.M.Nasrabadi

Hehe, Richard. - Kol Tregaskes

copy cat - gibilix

518 like! most liked post? - Lu Tao

ay yerim yaa çok tatlı kedicikk :)) - Arzu

Lu, yeah but a long way now. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

*bump* - Andre

Blew past 500 likes - LIKE!!!!! - Roberto Bonini

OMGosh, nearly heading to 550!! - Kol Tregaskes

So we know how many people use this site. - Richard A.

So that's what Paws Printing means. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)

Richard, we getting there. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Jack, hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

this thread is making history. - vijay

Indeed .. this is a most epic thread - Mattb4rd

Hehe. 9 more for 550! - Kol Tregaskes

8... - sofarsoShawn

7. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Actually only 5...cuz "You, Earl E Morningwood, yasin ghasemi and... 542 liked this" - sofarsoShawn

Who wants to bet how many likes this thead is going to get??? - Roberto Bonini

Gosh, no idea. - Kol Tregaskes

take some bets then come back in a year to check? - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

:) - SokooteDel

Holy smokes .. this pussy cat is approaching 600 likes! - Mattb4rd

552 now, so there are some unlikes going on, hehe, oh well. Still an amazing amount of likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

560! - sofarsoShawn

And back down to 559. Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

And how could anyone not love kitties after seeing this photo? - Susan Beebe

I liked it without reading this discussion - evidentially we have a lot of people who like the idea of faxing a cat! - Rich

Rich, yes, worrying, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

564! - sofarsoShawn

I think we'll have to recruit more ffeeps before this record will ever be broken - JSNFLMNG

maybe a good way to clone cats :) - Roberto

Hehe, Roberto. - Kol Tregaskes

This surely couldn't hit 600 likes, could it!? - Kol Tregaskes

It could! Keep bumping it up! - imabonehead

It will :) - Roberto Bonini

My next cat post: http://beta.friendfeed.com/the-fun... - Kol Tregaskes

Wow, not even 600 Likes? Feh. ;-) - j1m

No yet. Close though. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Stuck on 581. - Kol Tregaskes

Most liked FF post ever? - Kristian Salonen

One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-) - John Collis

Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John. - Kol Tregaskes

ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی - Maryaminaa

11 more to 600. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

داداش كوتاه بيا، مي خواي ركورد بزني!؟ - Exir

هستم بره این کامنتتو ترجمه کنه اکسیر ! :))) داره از فضولی میمیره الان ! :D - Shayan

Hehe, 6 more likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Need 1 more like, by my calculation, to get to 600 - Josh Haley

Another unlike then, back down to 598. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

it's 598+3, at the moment ;-) - Andre

There we go, 601!! Wow, can't believe it. :-D Thanks everyone!! - Kol Tregaskes

3 people un liked :( - Roberto Bonini

I think there have been made unlikes over the last week, oh well. - Kol Tregaskes

too many likes, the kitteh is burning up..stop the madness...;) - JSNFLMNG

Haha, Jason. - Kol Tregaskes

614!!!!! - sofarsoShawn

Whoa! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

man! ..Kol is gaining ... and I saw that pic one day before Kol posted it :X ..and i let it go! :[)] - Petr Buben

Petr, who's he? - Kol Tregaskes

omg, this post passed 600 likes! - imabonehead

@Kol ..well the man .. Mr Photographer .. ok .. let me go there .. - Petr Buben

I see. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

631 likes, amazing stuff. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

Day 11 and this thing's still going! - Phil Maxwell

Why fax yourself when you can get famous via FriendFeed? :-) - Willem (@wim66) ☠

whereas a cat *scan* is totally feasible - Megan Craig

Kol, congratulations, you won the Friendfeed Award for the most likes entry! - Jérôme Flipo

Kol is this from your rival: Squashy Cat Photography? - sofarsoShawn

Haha, Shawn. Have you really bumped this one again? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

LOL I was actually looking at best of month and I thought I'm going to be clever :-) - sofarsoShawn

this makes me laugh every darn time I see it - Stephanie_Happy2010!

Who is this NShawnFW? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

kitties do like to find new spots to nap :) - Maryam

LOL, now over 650 likes. - Kol Tregaskes

این هنوز در نیومده از لای این دستگاه؟ - Maryaminaa

Wow. this is good..... pleased, Kol? - Roberto Bonini

Pleased? About the number of likes? I'm happy regardless. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

So do we think it will go to 700 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

it will - Seltoon

what do you mean by "it" ? say "he" or "she". :) - Maryaminaa

Haha, I was referring to the entry. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

lol - Maryaminaa

I see someone already posted 'Copy Cat' !! LOL Great picture - Kevin J Hatton

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

O HAI! I IZ WATIN FR COOPONZ, KTHXBYE. - Kris Roley

Neksnapper 3000 Kitten Eradicator - Kills Kittehs Dead - Mattb4rd

Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

10 more likes for 700! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

7 more by my count! - Bec Rowe @d0tski

Oops, yes you're right, Bec. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Isn't it illegal to fax a pussy? - aerobroken

It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or... - sofarsoShawn

OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Wow, not so bad huh? \u) - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,

try harder! ; )) - Didier Lahely

Before faxing it, you have to flatten it out a bit. You're going at it all wrong! :-) - Rick Cogley

Caturday is tommorow ... Fax Cat on Saturday .. - johnpiercy

Must try this at home! - Anthony K. Valley ©

Bumping some old great posts. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Now THAT is a classic! - Allan Besselink

you have to flatten it first!!! ;) - Neda S.

This is very good humor! - TrafficBug

Hey, we've hit the 700-like mark. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

just a couple thousand to go - JSNFLMNG

LOL - Smeerch

__awesome__ - Matteo Scotuzzi

and it got resurrected once again! - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

I managed to do it once, but I don't think I'm going to do it again. The results were a little fuzzy. - Seth Greenblatt

hope you feel unbad soon. - Jim in Real Time

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Certainly hope your extracted tooth wasn't as bad as mine. I had crooked roots and a rotting crown. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Thanks, I just hope it doesn't bleed again, like it did earlier (much to my dismay/shock) when I had a rest for a while... - Tyson Key

@Chris - It was one that was already broken somewhat (managed to snap it whilst opening a cola bottle, of all things - yes, I know that's a good idea)... - Tyson Key

:( speedy recover -dental work sucks - WorldofHiglet

Sorry it looks like a sore mouth. I found out last week that I had screwed one of my fillings eating and needed replacement. In my case it was just eating, nuts, popcorn, I like to chew my food and fillings aren't as tough as real teeth it seems, which is a fantastic reason to take care of them. I hope you're feeling by now :) - Cibeles

Yeah, they seem OK now. There was one tooth that was almost impossible to fill, since it was in such bad shape (they struggled to fit a metal band around it, several times), but they managed it eventually. It's not as if I don't take care of them, either. Such is life... - Tyson Key

"A dancer from the English National Ballet performing 'Ballets Russes' at Sadler's Wells poses in her 'Dying Swan' costume designed by Karl Largerfeld on June 16, 2009 in London, England. (Oli Scarff/Getty Images)" - Myrna from Bookmarklet

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How does a ballerina stand like this ? - گل باقالی

The toe box of a pointe shoe is constructed out of stiffened canvas before it's wrapped in satin. Ballerinas wrap their toes (I used wool, some use synthetic pads) for a bit of protection, and from there it's a lot of foot and ankle strength (not to mention some pain). - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Tina, check this out: http://www.wikipatents.com/5129165... - Rochelle

Good , according to Rochelle's page there are some methods for weight distribution. Thank you for the answers :) - گل باقالی

That's not a moon... - Jared B. Luther

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Nice, but does it have a tractor beam? - Mike Nencetti

Mike, I assume it does and it'll be locked on your wallet! - CAJ, somewhere else

I hope they patch up that small thermal exhaust port before launch. - Martin Bryant

Do they really have to? It may be surrounded by an impenetrable force field - Wang Yip

Hopefully they have an advanced waste disposal system. - Mike Nencetti

That's no moon - Matthew DeVries

You people shouldn't be so glib - Many died to get us these images. - Matthew DeVries

Death Star? - Mike Reynolds

*salutes the Bothan spies* - Joe Silence is Dr. Teeth!

What would Freud say? - Ken Morley

“Try your hand at closing California’s budget shortfall, estimated at $24 billion. It’s not easy, but it can be done. Cut spending, raise taxes and/or borrow to get the state out of the red. For each choice -- drawn from proposals from across the political spectrum -- we’ve tried to give some sense of the effects. As you craft your proposal, the Deficit Meter will show your progress.” - Anthony Citrano

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Holy crap...I tried it...raising taxes only gets you about halfway there and then you have to make some pretty painful cuts to get the rest of the way there. California is truly screwed. - Alex Scoble

I got them into the green but it took some doing. Interesting that "legalize marijuana and tax at 10%" wasn't an option as a revenue stream. I wonder how quickly the scenario would change if it were. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

My only option is to move to florida - Tony C from fftogo

@Tina - it is an option (Assembly Bill 390) but not within the current emergency session. @Alex: Yes, but it ain't just California. The state continues to serve as an essential US leading indicator. ;) - Anthony Citrano

Wow, that is amazing to see. I didn't even manage to get it half way down. My mom is in human services and as a recent college grad with no insurance it was hard to cut anything from education, human services, health or state workers. Poor Cali. :( - Heather

@Earl: Florida, New York, and Michigan are close on California's heels. Try maybe Hawaii instead. - Ladybug Heather

Another 6 months of Obama, and the U.S. will be like California. - Spencer

That's an awesome visualization. California is pretty fucked. - Eric P

I fixed it, but I raised the hell out of some taxes to do it. - Steve Lowe

Here is what I would do.. I'd actually probably do more than just what has been proposed: http://www.latimes.com/news... - Bill Rawlinson

If you cut everything but the one-time fixes, and don't raise taxes, you are still in the red. California is boned. Can we sell it to Japan? China? - Andy Dustman

@Spencer: clue up, mon vieux. - Anthony Citrano

@Andy, Heather, Eric - as I said to Alex: this isn't unique to CA; it's coming soon to a State House near you. - Anthony Citrano

Yeah, but not to the extent that CA is facing...unless the economy gets worse. :) - Alex Scoble

@Alex - that depends on whether you measure "extent" in percentages or absolutes. In absolutes, of course none are to the extent of CA because it's the largest state economy. But in percentage terms, most state budgets are similarly fucked over the next fiscal session - two if they're lucky. - Anthony Citrano

I disagree. California is uniquely fucked up because of its constitution and system of ballot referendums (prop 13). Other states are able to adjust and respond more effectively as they go along - obviously they haven't stayed deficit free, but the situation isn't *as* dire elsewhere. - Eric P

It's important to keep in mind that this is a static tool for what is an inherently dynamic problem. You can raise taxes, sure, but you'll also lose an extraordinary amount of revenue in subsequent years as families relocate. And if you think that won't happen, keep in mind that Cali is already hemorrhaging high-earners. Cali's problem is a spending problem, just as the rest of the... more... - Forrest Cox

Good fun, balance California budget! - Mike Reynolds

Wow, this is a great visual representation. Totally depressing. - joey

@Eric P: yes, California has unique challenges. But what I meant was that the core problem - i.e. the state being totally bankrupt - is not unique. Many US states will be right behind it. - Anthony Citrano

In MO, we had a GOP Gov. who made draconian cuts to balance the budget. It made him unpopular and he only served one term; but we are stable fiscally now. - Robert Hafer from iPhone

@Anthony - but not too many other states have an economy roughly the size of France's. A good comparison here is Texas, which is also very large, very diverse, and is in comparatively sterling fiscal shape. - Forrest Cox

Just legalize our states #1 Cash crop, and the tax revenues from it should go a long way to shoring up the budget permanently. Then repeat for every other state and things might actually start to get better! Imagine that! - Michael Fidler

The budget "options" are too old. Due to a failure to act before July 1 - some options are no longer available. - LPH™ and his dog P™ from BuddyFeed

I didn't see an option to cut the salaries of the governor and legislators to minimum wage level. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

I balanced the budget and have almost $11 million left over without raising ONE TAX! http://www.latimes.com/news... :P (And yes, I'm dead serious) - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ

No new taxes? Select the "possibly illegal" cuts and give voters next election a choice: keep more of your earnings and invest in your own futures, or give it all to us and trust us to rain those benefits sufficiently back to you. Do you really have confidence CA can do that efficiently? - Andrew Skretvedt

After experimenting and looking at the list, any change of less than a billion dollars is barely worth making. Fixing this is going to be painful, but this is what you get for continuously demanding services, at some point they need to be paid for. The "cut the health and dental care for state retirees maybe be illegal and will be challenged in court" is kind weird: if the state goes bankrupt, those won't be paid out anyway. But I guess everyone gets to feel good about not having to cut that. - Andy Bakun

I also don't get why we're spending money on some of these things. Why are we keeping illegal immigrants in state prisons? Why have they not been deported? Wouldn't deporting them as soon as possible actually be cheaper in the long run? - Andy Bakun

New constitution. - anna sauce

That wasn't too hard. I made 14bn in cuts and 16bn in new taxes, giving me a budget surplus of 6.8bn which I will bank for the next two years as the tax base shrinks even more. I gutted law enforcement (over porked as it is), cut hard across community college level (sorry kids, suck it up for a bit and read on your own) but left k-14 intact as well as ALL health and human services. - Cole Jolley

It's amazing how may state funded freeloaders there are in Ca. - Kenny Elliott

Maybe I didn't see the option, but I wanted to release all non-violent drug offenders, and others incarcerated for victimless crimes. That should've been worth something. - Dave Roth

This is a wonderful application. It's very easy to armchair quarterback things like budgets. It's good to be able to see options laid out in an interactive fashion like this. Should do it more often, particularly before elections. - Barry Biddlecomb from twhirl

My one gripe about the application: It only shows the *deficit*, not the entire budget, and cuts that have been proposed by politicians. This is around $130B if federal funds aren't counted, $200B with federal funds. http://www.dof.ca.gov/budgeti... - Andy Dustman

Gawd...this is hard to do without cutting much needed programs (I think anyway.) - Adam C.

California is setting an early example for a wholesale rethink sorely needed in the United States. That is: what should government really be responsible for? As many of you have said, this is an example of free-riding entitlement gone amok. And if you all think this is bad, just wait until we have to take the same approach to the federal budget.... - Anthony Citrano

The thing is, paying more isn't even an option, since the Governator will terminate any bill that tries to raise taxes. Although I wonder how long that stance is going to last. - Victor Ganata

HAHAHAHA - Admiral Anika

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Fair trade for them getting the good view of Niagara Falls I'd say. - invariant - farewell FF

frickin sweet! - BEX

LOL - Tibor Holoda

Yup that's exactly what it looks like from here. - Barry Sanschagrin

ROFL - Ethan

So where exactly did Nicholas Cage enter to find the treasure? - Geoff Schultz

LOL! too funny. - John Blanton from twhirl

LOL - Roberto Bonini

Heh. B. Kliban did a cartoon of this with their pants down. Good job on this, tho :-) - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

hahaha, that's funny! - freedom fighter mom from twhirl

What? There's another view? Please post. - Ken Morley

I'm pretty sure it's in the collection "Never Eat Anything Bigger Than Your Head", published back in the early/mid 70s. I know I've got it around here somewhere... - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

ROTFL, "the other side" - Roberto from fftogo

Hahaha. Awesome sight for 'em Canadians! - Santosh

face down and ass in the air! Love it! - John Hillestad

Cool, except anybody who's been to Mount Rushmore knows it faces east! So really this is the view from Wyoming. - Ben Hanten

Ben: Americans have never been known to have a sense of direction. - l0ckergn0me

Hilarious :-D - Ace

I literally LOL'd. - Mike Cefalo

Sarah Palin sees this from the other side of her house. - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

awesome - Nick Humphries

I lol´d. - Jens Christian Freund

ahahahahahahah - Adriano Mercurio

LMAO! :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker

lol ... yup that's just what we see from Canada ... a bunch of asses - jay macpherson

Well played, jay. Well played. - Jason, Incognito

*access memory: Braveheart battle scene* - Mo Kargas

Too funny! - Mark Harai

Haha... I LOL'ed for real too. - Barbara

wiping away tears. rofl - Capn' One Eye - adrift

+1 Jay (not really true, but still very funny :o) - Ken Morley

Hay I am Canadian !.....giggle - hollyseven

How did I miss this?! HAHA - Mona Nomura

I think somebody has a wedgie! - CAJ, somewhere else

The view from Canada is the rock on the left & Lincoln's shoes. - Wade Dorrell

that is epic. ;) - Philip "dmouse" Campbell

Hilarious! :) - Cyndi ~ @muchmorethanmom

Awesome! - Timothy Federwitz

hahahaha wtf - tohuko

That's priceless. - Todd Libby

Teddy has a nice butt =p - LouCypher

where do you get this stuff from - Frank loves it - Kathi Barrett

That is brilliant. B3TA or somewhere similar? - dannystaple

Hahahah! Mount Rushmore as seen from Canada. - KyNam Doan

haha ace babes xx - abigailashleawhitaker

This is an old pic, but is still always funny to see. :) - John Pyper

Choose your theme at http://friendfeed.com/setting... - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet

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I'm a Blue Wave man myself. - Bret Taylor

Nice, but I think I like the Classic style the best. :) When can designers submit more themes, or users upload their own? - Pistos

That wouldn't have anything to do with Google Wave, now would it? - Daniel Sims

Who would believe that *I* would be using the "Flowers" theme? :) - Ana

Helvetica - Christopher Chung

Pistos: user submitted themes are coming soon. - Bret Taylor

Pistos: It's in the blog post. ;-) - Kevin Fox

I prefer to keep things Fresh - Dan Hsiao

oooooh boy!! - Micah Wittman

Nice! how much control over theming when user submitted comes out? Twitter-like? more? Sharable? - Justin Hart

Helvetica for now. - Jimminy Fuller

Whoops, didn't even see that there's a blog post. Sorry. :) - Pistos

Justin: most of that (user submitted, shareable, etc) is coming, this is just a first step. - Bret Taylor

Awesome. - Justin Hart

thank you jesus - Sarah Perez

This is awesommeee!! - Burcu Dogan

Thanks :) - Tracy Benham

Nice - Kreg Steppe

*awesome* I <3 Helvetica! - Sparky

Helvetica for sure! - Burcu Dogan

This was all due to Kevin's (http://friendfeed.com/kfury) hard work in case it wasn't obvious. Great job, Kevin! - Bret Taylor

Looks like I signed on just in time today. - Yolanda

Thanks guys. Rockin Helvetica for now. Needs the FF logo though. - Andrew Smith

Helvetica for now. - Darryl

This post came when I was thinking how FF logo is a Twitter look-like. Dont change the Helvetica version! - Burcu Dogan

Thanks.. but I'm not a big "theme" guy... I'd rather see updates to the API... I guess I should be hammering Ben for that :) - Tim Hoeck

ohhhhh snap! - Nathan Chase

Niiiiceeeee. - Simon Wicks

I chose Fresh! - David Schmidt

It became clear as soon as the FriendFeed Themes room was taken over. - Andrew Trinh

Awesome! - Frankie Warren

thank you! - Alfredo

Do any of the feeds have the highlight options of AJ's theme? Or the Service Favicons from Micah? - Matthew DeVries

Very nice. Like the Helvetica myself for the moment, but that will probably change in a week or two. - Alex Hellstrom

Helvetica! awesome. BTW, pause button is clipped by a couple of pixels on WebKit browsers. - Kelly Norton

Nice one, though we need more themes... - Kaan Ertürk

+1 to Helvetica! - Joel Webber

Helvetica is loveable but I wish it was white, black and red instead of being just 1-bit. - Berk D. Demir

sorry guys. my helvetica edition more beauty :) http://friendfeed.com/friendf... - Burak Dönertaş

haha :) thanx for that. - Ahmet Alp Balkan

helvetica ;) - Faruk Kaymak

@Burak, yup, more beauty ♥ - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕

Yeah, great job bro. i like the Helvetica edition - Simto Alev

"Bamboo" suggests there's a picture, but all I see is brownish colours, at that don't match the friendfeed logo. - Peter

I like "fresh" - Peter

I like Blue Wave. Fresh should be the default theme and the Classic should be dumped. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

MIcah says his scripts still work with the themes btw: http://ff.im/4DlX9 - Kol Tregaskes

OMG LOVE!!! - BEX

Perhaps post your favourite theme and whether you like or dislike the themes in the new *official* FF-Themes group here: http://ff.im/4DluG :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Peter, there should be an image inthe lower right corner. What browser/OS are you using? Thanks! - Kevin Fox

this is great! - Joe Pestro

Be Gone Grey! - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

Blue Wave for me :) - Great work FF! - Roy Herrod

You guys flippin ROCK - BEX

Why are they all so girly? - Gabe

@Kevin Fox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070725 Firefox/2.0.0.6 - Peter

I'm with Gabe: after considering BlueWave, I went with Helvetica, everything else is just girly. I might just stick with my 'stylish' hacks. - Joel Bennett

Yea, flowers and stuff are annoying. Helvetica version should be improved for better spacing. - Burcu Dogan

Thanks, Kol, that's what I was going to ask - if themes conflict with scripts. Sounds like it's cool - heading off to choose one now. I have one stylish userrstyle script and two greasemonkey scripts applied to friendfeed. We'll see if they can all play nice. - Laura Norvig

Laura, how'd it go? - Rochelle

works great - I'm trying helvetica now. It's super clean because I have avatars removed. Me likey. - Laura Norvig

cool... when is that nasty orange "ParisLemon" theme comin? :P - Susan Beebe

This'll make it prettier when I'm using Chrome anyway. :) I think I'll stick with the Stylish scripts and hacks on Firefox, though - I like the typography modifications they provide. When user-generated themes come in, will they be able to modify the typography/spacing, or just the background and colors? Thanks for the options, guys! - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Thanks Bret. Hel-vet a lot better. - E-Advocate Network

Thanks Bret, I love the Helvetica theme, btw, your new avatar is awesome:))) - K.D.

Helvetica. WIN - Jamie

Tres cool. - Jason Toney

It's good that ugliness is no more reason #1 to stop connecting. Next I would like to have is d&d to sort out friends in categories - Michele Costabile

Helvetica... Minimalism. Thank you! :D - Brandon

Thanks, FF team! - Anne Bouey

Good stuff! Thanks! - Rick Cogley

Great! - Shun Fukuzawa from twhirl

Helvetica! Clean:) - Dave

Try this Helvetica - http://userstyles.org/styles... - ThenWang

Bret, BIG MAHALO for the themes! I'm going Hawaiian! Check me out! http://friendfeed.com/AlohaAr... - Arleen Boyd

Helvetica definitely :) - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Flowers & Butterfly Corner are good,but a little bit girl stuff.Any good theme for a guy? - Steve Chou

YAY! - Alli Worthington

Coolness! - Ron Bailey

I like the Helvetica, who created it? - Juvenn Woo

Sorry, but were there no "real" designers to push out some mindblowing themes? It´s just a change of color and background? - Hans Kainz

Like those themes. Would be nice though, if they also show up if someone visits my page. Or does it? - Sven

When I click your name, Sven, I get the bamboo theme, which is what I chose. If you have chosen a different theme from that, we know it just remembers yours. It seems to work differently from twitter. - Rick Cogley

It's Helvetica for me! - Rui Pires

I think i'm going bamboo... - diego morelli

Helvetica all the way! I feel like the nytimes.com - Liviu Barbat

@Rick: Thanks. I get the idea. The twitter concept would be nice though. Like personalized version of the FF page. Now, if there were archive links now..... - Sven

Finally! I'll go with freeeeesh!:) - Patrik Johansson

I had thought blogging has been growing steadily, globally. Admittedly I don't have a good chart/stats for it. - Mark Essel

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I really like this statement - but will people return to blogging as we've known it? - Tony

Are you perhaps over estimating the allure of thinking? - Todd Hoff

Micro-blogging is good for idealets and infotainment, but it really is turning the web into a mindless medium like TV. Of course, there will always be the equivalent of PBS trying valiantly to raise the bar somewhat. Blogs will always have the possibility of transmitting real knowledge. - Paul W. Homer

The interesting thing for me is I think we have lost the definition of what a blog is. Everybody jumped up and down about what Steve Rubel did, but really I see his change as a shift of platform. If he posted that same content on wordpress, nobody would have said a word. Just because he did it on posterous and called it a lifestream, people took issue with it. So, what is our definition then? - Robert

http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/whatmak... - Dave Winer

Dave - I read through the link you sent, thanks for the information. So, in what ways do you think posterous goes against this definition? - Robert from email

I think Steve still has a weblog, he's just submitting posts to it in a "different" way. Like Dave's link says a weblog is "... a hierarchy of text, images, media objects and data, arranged chronologically, that can be viewed in an HTML browser." Pretty much sums it up, I think. Steve's post is going to generate attention, and debate, but in the end it's a weblog. - Rob Fahrni

Robert, I know you're asking Dave a question, but I don't think the Posterious way goes against the definition. If I'm not mistaken Radio could post via e-mail, and I know Blogger supports this feature. Maybe I need to dig into Posterious a bit more but isn't that what it does? - Rob Fahrni

Rob - That is my point. This in my mind is one of the major problems with looking for a "new name" for these social products. We see it as something different because it is called something different. Posterous, from what I can see so far, allows for the writer to interact with their "weblog" in a different way, just as you said... - Robert from email

Huh? - Dave Winer

Dave - I think your "huh?" was towards me... We call Posterous a "life stream", I say it is a blog, that we have given a different name to. That is what I am saying.Rob - I agree with you 100%, and that is my point exactly. I keep reading these post about blogging being dead, or blogging being alive... but those that say they are not "blogging" are still "blogging" Maybe I am not making sense, but I hope I am... - Robert from email

Robert - Precisely! I think Posterious is trying to find a why to differentiate their product, so they've coined a new phrase. It's still a weblog, how the data arrives may be different, but it's just a weblog all the same. When I read Steve's story last night, from his new site, I thought I was going to find a link on it to something "new and innovative", then I realized I was AT the actualy site, his "life stream." - Rob Fahrni

Rob - YES... That is what I am saying... Same with Tumblr in my view, it is a weblog... Blogging is not dead at all in my view... - Robert from email

Robert - Right on! - Rob Fahrni

Blogology is a still too young science, and definitio usually comes when plays are over. What I feel sad for is the lack of opportunity future literature and social behaviour experts will suffer not using post's content ( and graphics ) as sources for studying today's world zeitgeist. Borges prophecy is at work, few understands - too many doesn't even know what they're writing about: a... more... - valerio fiandra from iPhone

Robert, the photo sharing site you've used recently is structurally a blog too. It differs from normal blog software mainly in that the chronology is by date of occurrence, not date of posting. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo

It's funny that this sentence and a few lines from Anthony Trollope's autobiography should have crossed paths in my consciousness on the same day, since it's almost the same idea, thrown back two temporal orders of magnitude. Trollope tells of a correspondent, a vicar, who had enjoyed his clerical novels but was upset by Lady Glencors'a contemplation of adultery in the Pallisers series.... more... - Amyloo

Bruce - Very true! I'm glad that you are not working hard to call it something different. I'm loving it so far, even though I have not had a lot of time to put a bunch of pics up... - Robert from email

This is silly. Blogging isn't defined by the tool, it's defined by who's doing it. Read the piece I pointed to. I don't mean click on the link and hit the Back buttton, click the link and READ. - Dave Winer

Agreed, Dave. Heck, we blogged back in the day via FTP uploads; that's what moved you towards developing "Edit This Page", in fact (IIRC). - Ken Kennedy

Dave - I did read through it, and I agree that a blog is NOT defined by a tool, I think that is what we have been saying. I do not see where we are at odds on our viewpoints, please expound. - Robert from email

This subject keeps coming back - blogging will never die. - Jesse Stay

Before Web 1.0 we listened, conversed, collaborated and then we wrote. Writing was the synthesis of all the thinking that occurred in the first steps. In the new medium, the thinking process is the streams, both personal and community. Blogging is the synthesis of this new kind of community thought process. - Joolio

Dave - haha! - that is awesome :D - Susan Beebe

Pity there's no "Really, Really Like" button. - Chris Baskind

Of course bloggin won't die, but you better have compelling content, because people have little tolerance for long articles. - Todd Dewell

I think a large percentage of bloggers were really microbloggers, they just didn't have the correct apps to do that. The people that actually have something to say will keep blogging and those that just like to say something small or share something interesting will continue microblogging, or lifestreaming, or whatever variant you want to name it. Blogging is akin to publishing articles... more... - xero

This was known since the times of IRC: you can only have idle chatter or quick focused questions at that speed. - Michele Costabile

Michele, if that premise is true, then kids only absorb important life-long lessons from their parent(s) when they're sat down for a full length lecture. No? :) - Micah Wittman

The best food for thought always come in easily digestible chunks, however, sometimes you need to digest some larger/harder stuff to give you the ability to digest that chunk. - xero

Xero - That is an interesting thought... - Robert from email

Agreed, well said, Xero. - Micah Wittman

I thought completing a thought was the beauty of FriendFeed. - Alan Eggleston

Microblogging is very much a product of the times, very ADD, very video-game-ish; so I agree strongly with the idea of longer. - Rick Cogley

Just FYI, when I started Scripting News in 1997, it was entirely "microblogging" -- look in the archive. http://www.scripting.com/1997... - Dave Winer

Dave - I very much appreciate you keeping up this fight. When I heard this past weekend the term "Lifestreaming", and seeing it picking up momentum. No, this has to stop. Twittering is an aside to your thoughts, or a highlight to pull people to your thoughts, if it's you only thoughts, you need put your head below the surface of your lifestream while carrying a big pile of rocks and... more... - Matthew DeVries

LOL, unfortunately, I don't think this problem exists just for blogging :) - Armando & Cindee Edrosa from iPhone

This isn't a fight. I love all this stuff. I was just saying what I think. - Dave Winer

Even calling it a "Lifestream"? That's the creepiest sounding thing in tech, since Steve Balmer was threatening to "Squirt" his music onto my Zune. - Matthew DeVries

Who really quit blogging? Even the most active lifestream addicts never really quit. For me, the blog is and has always been home. Everything else is somewhat ancillary, even when it's the first place I go. Critical thinking sometimes requires the depth of a written post. - Ken Camp

Question: Of those of you out there who use posterous, do you use it as a replacement of your blog, a mirror of your blog or something different? - Curt Mercadante

Ken - Rubel quit blogging. - Matthew DeVries

One of the things I like about blogging is the ability to not finish a thought, not to try so hard to say all I have to say or say come to any definite conclusion in a single post. The unfinished thought is what encourages conversation. Let someone else add to your thought. Let others challenge your incomplete premise. I don't know everything, why pretend I do? My thoughts are never finished. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)

Wow, you're right Dave, scripting news was indeed VERY much a microblog. Interesting & thanks for pointing that out! - Rick Cogley

Just last night, my sister sent out a vague tweet that made no sense to me out of context: http://twitter.com/awarnoc... So I suggested she blog about the topic so that readers like me would understand the context. http://twitter.com/awarnoc... http://zelzega.blogspot.com/2009... - Peter Warnock

Just because you can finish a thought, doesn't mean people will read it. - Will Higgins™

Tell me about it. That happened earlier in this very thread. But at least you ca read it yourself. - Dave Winer

Just as your diary became your journal and then your log, your log has become your stream. The web has become your life..... AND SO IT WAS, that in the year naught-nine, the web-log was renamed to life-stream, dissected, and it's pieces scattered about the hundreds of "cloud" services, from which it could fall as raindrops of thought, pinging here and there in an attempt to spread ideas to where they were needed the most. - Joel Bennett

No time to read it. Can you give us the gist of it in 140 characters or less? Thanks. - Diego Barros 

Here's a picture, even easier than 140 chars. http://tr.im/qrBb - Dave Winer

Haha, love it! - Rick Cogley

Love the idea! - Sampad Swain

Come on, Dave. Where's your sense of humor? - Diego Barros 

Where's yours? - Dave Winer

If you were joking, that's cool. I can take it. :) (I was joking, honest) - Diego Barros 

Me too. :-) - Dave Winer

Blogging is still the platform of choice for sharing a clear/uninterrupted flow of thoughts from a single perspective. Then comments rapidly add value to the original post's material (most of the time). We're witnessing the link power of blogging decline because that functionality (which is monetizable) is moving to social media. We are left with the question, how best should bloggers monetize if they're losing link passing strength? I'm working that issue now by frankensteining several parts together - Mark Essel

Personalized/Customized ads based on public user status. Semantic tools (via API), memory (local user profile database), and the passing of information to an ad aggregator will help produce custom (dynamic web matched) advertisements. It should serve all parties involved (social media, bloggers/front ends, semantic processing houses, and advertising aggregators). - Mark Essel

What do you mean, I have always been able to finish a ... ooh a nice shiny object... - Marcel de Jong

Isn't it ironic that this post contained a clear and concise thesis, in under 140 characters? - Mike Chelen

Good point Mike... - Mark Harai

There's NOTHING wrong with brevity. There is a time and a place for discussion and lengthy discourse. - Will Higgins™

Mike Chelen - "a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning ... the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning." - Nope, not ironic - Matthew DeVries

Matthew DeVries: that covers definitions 1 and 2, yet the 3rd is an "incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result," where in this case the expected result was to explain how new platforms prevent thoughts from being finished, and the actual result was to the contrary :D - Mike Chelen

If you say so. I never saw that definition, but I have no reason to doubt you, or motivation to find the source myself, so, I'll allow it. - Matthew DeVries

aren't we all copying from the same online dictionary? http://www.merriam-webster.com/diction... - Mike Chelen

No, I rattled mine out of something I memorized years ago. - Matthew DeVries

wow, you got it perfectly word-for-word, remind me to pick you for my crossword puzzle team :) - Mike Chelen

"Marsh Fork Elementary—and the rest of Appalachia—are still being threatened by mountaintop-removal coal mining. Can new legislation finally stop this devastating practice? I’m haunted by this photo. It’s of a school—Marsh Fork Elementary in Sundial, West Virginia—precariously set about 400 feet downhill from a massive 2.8-billion-gallon pool of toxic coal sludge. The image, annotated and uploaded by the advocacy group Appalachian Voices, has been boiling my blood since I first saw it a couple years back. About 200 students spend their schooldays there. It’s a disaster waiting to happen. Massey Energy’s slurry pond is held in place in the hollow above the school by a leaky dam. These dams don’t have the best track record. One Massey dam failed in 2000, dumping 300 million gallons of sludge into streams in Martin County, Kentucky. More harrowing was the 1972 Buffalo Creek disaster, where a dam gave way and, according to the West Virginia Division of Culture and History, “in a matter of... more... - Cee Bee from Bookmarklet

so fucked up.... - Ňicķ

"Tourism and sport fishing represent a multimillion dollar industry for the Florida Keys. But according to experts, the coral reef there has diminished more than 50 percent, and the fish count within the reef is now at its lowest level." - Bill Romanos from Bookmarklet

:( used to live in the Keys and you can almost see the changes every single year - sad - Tracy Benham

that's really too bad. that's an extremely large amount - Cee Bee

I guess I joined FriendFeed a little too early to see this screen. What the hell is this? These are popular FriendFeed users? Evan Williams is a popular FriendFeed user? Barack Obama? Do these people even *use* FriendFeed? What about uh, I dunno - Rahsheen, Mona, RAPatton, Shevonne, Rochelle... you know, popular FF users who actually USE FF! Come on FF staff - please reward the people who actually engage on the service! This screen is simply a popularity measure to make FF look more appealing to outsiders and will cause them to follow people who aren't *really* involved. - Tamar Weinberg from Bookmarklet

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Tamar, that page reflects the "most subscribed" accounts. It's not hand-selected by FriendFeed, and doesn't indicate how much people are liked or disliked. The reason that folks like Pete Cashmore, Obama and Ev are so high here is because 1) Twitter put them in the suggested user list, and 2) FriendFeed enabled you to sync your followers with Twitter. Tada! I would argue that many there earned their position organically, however. - Louis Gray

Fair enough. Time to make a change, I think. It's only fair to reward real *FriendFeed* (and not Twitter) active users. - Tamar Weinberg

hmmm but this is FriendFeed, not Twitter... - Anna Bourland

Ahh, Tamar, you beat me to it. - Anna Bourland

yeah this screen has pissed me off oh, since I joined FF - anna sauce

Yeah. :/ It's sad when people join FF, follow those people on that list, and then get frustrated because of what they're seeing (or not seeing). A lot of them quit FF thinking that it's not nearly as cool as they had heard or hoped. - Rochelle

Yes the list has some weird people on it, together with some really good FFers. But if they start making up the list on some subjective criteria like "whos a good friendfeeder" won't we end up at the same place as the SUL? I'm weird, I like to slowly build up my stream so I know who I follow and why. That way I get alot of value out of this place, while being gently eased into it. Starting to feel a little bit like the cooked frog though :-P - Rasmus Lauridsen

FFholic has a list of the "most active". I think that list is a lot better than the FFholic "most popular" list, which is very similar to the suggested list provided by FF. - Rochelle

Rochelle, in theory the most popular on FFHolic should match the suggested list by FF. But FFHolic's data is not perfect. Keep in mind I am not saying this is the right approach, but I understand how it works, and it's better than Twitter's nonsense. And you all know I highlight 10 new folks every month who are awesome and off this list. - Louis Gray

Louis, and thank you for that! I think your list needs more publicity. I try to link to it when I see a new FFer posting about who to follow. - Rochelle

Louis - Your earlier recommendations were particularly useful :) Amazing how this comes full circle almost a year later. Great catch Tamar - Charlie Anzman

lovely - nothing like yet another list of mostly users who don't even use ff. i smell a cn post coming. - Allen Stern

Maybe a system containing activity and popularity. Activity isn't all either. There is also quality of output, not to mention interest. There are alot of popular people I don't follow, not because they suck, but because what they talk about is not what I want to read about. Suggesting users in any service like this is a quagmire of hurt feelings, envy, suspicions, gossip and other parts of human nature that aren't really too pretty to look at. - Rasmus Lauridsen

Rasmus, how would you determine popularity? - Rochelle

I think I got sidetracked by my flighty little mind... I should have removed the first part before posting... I evolved during the writing... Need an editor here :-P Popularity has to play a part of the metric, popularity (followers, we be sheep after all), activity, interests/topics. The more I think about it the more I hate the idea of a list, because it will lead to the quagmire of doom. - Rasmus Lauridsen

I don't think they should take anyone off the suggested user list(or whatever it's called), but it's about time they add some new people to it. - Michael Fidler

I don't know much about programming, but I think trying to mathematically trying to determine interests/topic and then sort out who is most popular would be pretty much impossible. - Rochelle

Split that page into four lists: Most Subscribed, Most Active, Most Liked, and Most Commented. - Michael R. Bernstein

You never know, these bright minds are ex googlers after all. They can find algorithms for anything over there at "Don't be evil central" - Rasmus Lauridsen

Michael, all of that data is on FFholic. :) Perhaps FF needs to take a hint from Arda Kutsal, the FFholic guy. - Rochelle

how much has changed since my first exposed ff defaults post on 7/6/08 - http://www.centernetworks.com/friendf... - it's great to see justine and barack up there - two people who really participate here. - Allen Stern

Or, better yet, FF could identify all users who are active within the past few days and/or have above a certain number of likes/comments and then ROTATE those users through a suggested users list. Each refresh gives new faces. Then newbies will see different people they can follow and many of us will get a chance to be featured. - Rochelle

Rochelle, I totally agree. Maybe everyone that's not active for a year or more, should be moved onto a founder's "honorary" list. - Michael Fidler

Great conversation and I updated the post to link to this discussion. Thanks for all the input. BTW, if you want an easy way to see all of Louis' "10 people" posts try this search http://friendfeed.com/search... - Keith - @tsudo

Keith, thanks for the link! - Rochelle

Rochelle, I like that idea very much, let the realtimeness of the place shine through. Could also have a who's active now feature that works realtime. Or a whats going on now with some of the good discussions, based on activity. Then people can pick and choose from the people mixed up in that particular "mob" - Rasmus Lauridsen

this will be a very important question for friendfeed - do they go the route of twitter or do they try to stay loyal to their fans. - Allen Stern

Tamar I'm also trying to aggregate the "Best of" links to share with new Friendfeeders here is my list so far http://ff.im/47jWL I'd love to have suggestions from anyone else - Keith - @tsudo

It may be possible to look at the common words used by FFeeders and construct a list of interests. There is a site already building a list per user. I linked a few days ago after building my word map. Since I'm on the iPhone and not using a machine it isn't easy to flip back and forth. hopefully my memory is right. - LPH™ and his dog P™ from BuddyFeed

The way it is, this list is exactly what it says it is: the most popular. I don't see how limiting the "popular users" list to only people who actually log into FriendFeed (as opposed to those who create an account and simply allow it to collect their tweets or rss feeds) would be any more valid. If you think what sets FF apart is "community" I disagree. However, it would definitely be... more... - Joel Bennett

Joel - to me it isn't a question of validity its a question of value. If you add Mashable, iJustine, and Barack Obama you'll gain a ton of posts but no community. Friendfeed's value is content + community and conversation. This list only gives 1/3 of the real value. I'd much rather see a list of active members and I think it would help new users "get the point' of Friendfeed. - Keith - @tsudo

Allen, this isn't the first time this subject has come up here. I’m guessing, but when the site was redesigned, the subject must have come up internally, but I guess they choose to keep it unchanged. - Michael Fidler

Keith, Good point! - Michael Fidler

michael - while the mechanism might be slightly different, it's the same exact issue as with twitter. - Allen Stern

I agree:) - Michael Fidler

As I understand it, as soon as you start subscribing to other users, that list changes to one based on those you're subscribed to, not FriendFeed in general. - Tristan Seligmann

Tristan I think this is correct. However Friendfeed should still reconsider the page since all new users will see these recommendations - Keith - @tsudo

Two things stand out: (1) new FF users may follow these official recommendations but get disenchanted with the service. That's because users aren't stimulated when FF is simply perceived to be a broadcast medium. By highlighting people who use FF merely to amplify their Twitter feed, you are not getting the community that so many of these people seek. - Tamar Weinberg

(2) I like Rochelle's idea and I am glad it makes people like Rasmus happy :) Rotate the "popular" list. It gives engaged users the ability to be highlighted repeatedly. Or just reward the biggest contributors by giving them placement on this page. It incentivizes people to be very active, and that's what FF needs, IMO. - Tamar Weinberg

Hi all, thanks for this spirited discussion and the all great thoughts. This page is something we are definitely working on improving, so we certainly appreciate the feedback! - Ana

Thanks Ana and team :D - Tamar Weinberg

Got to love having the FF team respond to our discussions and let us know they are listening. One more reason why I love Friendfeed - Keith - @tsudo

Thanks Tamar! That means a lot coming from you. =D - Shevonne

I agree that a 25% of this list is composed by the absolute most active users, another 25% by the most absolute commented/liked users and the remaining 50% by the same criteria but relative to the same language of the new account. - Roberto from fftogo

Since I'm here, might as well point out that I wrote a post about this conversation here: http://scobleizer.com/2009... - Robert Scoble

as i always point out, i will change the name this time... let's say you are into food and drinks - what good is it to get scoble as a recommendation? or cashmore? etc. i can't wait until ff gives us a whack answer like twitter did :) do i need to get more cupcakes? - Allen Stern

Allen - LOL you and those cupcakes !! hehe! :) tryin' to pull the cute routine like iJustine did w/ Twitter - Susan Beebe

Tamar et al - THANK YOU for posting this... The FF list is completely useless to new users unless they want to follow celebrities and A Listers, not the people who actually USE and promote FriendFeed. I've been on FF since March 1, 2008, however have only been recognized by FFholic and a few kind bloggers! :D The FF list really should reflect the community, not just cool trendy names - Susan Beebe

There is absolutely no reason there can not be multiple lists. That way those who want to subscribe to "famous" people can go their way and those who prefer substance to fame can have their own list. Eventually I sincerely hope FriendFeed will consider making the quality content being accumulated here useful for reference. See http://www.growmap.com/twitter... for more on what I mean by that. - Internet Strategist

Tamar Thanks for posting this. It got me thinking about what it was like when I first signed up here, except I thought I deleted my original account a long time ago. Over the last month, I've been trying to figure out the date I joined, but all my searches kept coming up short. Thanks to this post and Robert's too, I decided to search FFholic. While conducting a search using my name, I... more... - Michael Fidler

BTW, I can also see why I lost interest initially; I was following suggested users. It looks like I was active from the start though:) - Michael Fidler

Could we solve this problem ourselves? Let's leverage our community to make our own recommendations. Do you think we could use A Friendfeed Follow Room? http://friendfeed.com/friendf... - Keith - @tsudo

I've been suggesting this page be changed for ages now. Sure there are some users there that use FF a lot, like Robert but if you are showing off your service to new users the 'most popular' users are perhaps not the best ones to look at for good feeds and good interaction. I'm not saying it should be the most active either but it certainly should take into account the users activity as well as their popularity. - Kol Tregaskes

If you subscribe to a lot of the most popular users you are only going to get their Twitter stream, which is not a great demostration of FriendFeed features. - Kol Tregaskes

I suggested to FF directly that the introduction to new users was poor (as I recently tested it and found it confusing). I suggested that there should be a quick tutorial as soon as the registeration process is complete, with guidelines on the basics of how to post, comment and subscribe as well as how and why to update your bio and services. - Kol Tregaskes

I also suggested that the tutorial include an interactive section which showed the user how to post a new entry, something generic like Title: "Hello, I've just joined FriendFeed", Comment: "This is my first comment, yippee" :-)". We could then use this in a saved search and check it to welcome the new users aboard. At the moment new users are put on the home page with no clue what to do next and no welcome, making them feel lost and ignored. - Kol Tregaskes

Too bad I was sleeping when you started this thread. Reward the glorious! :D - Sasha Kovaliov(.com)

FF have told me they are working on this. But for the moment I continue to check for new users as best I can and point them in the direction of the Beginners (http://friendfeed.com/friendf...) and Feedback groups (http://friendfeed.com/friendf...). - Kol Tregaskes

Keith, good idea. There is also FF-Subscribe Sunday here: http://friendfeed.com/ff-subs... - Kol Tregaskes

And I have to thank Ana for taking the time to read my *very* long email on all this. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

I like the idea of the most popular, most liked, most commented and most active list but it should be a combo of all these and not separated into 4 lists. 4 lists would just confuse new users. Keep it simple, make the list more intelligent and perhaps randomise it a bit showing 20 of the top 100 users? - Kol Tregaskes

"Personal Rapid Transit (PRT) is ‘a transport method that offers personal, on-demand non-stop transportation between any two points on a network of specially built guide-ways’. A PRT system consists of a number of small automated vehicles (seating 2 to 6 passengers) combining the desirable aspects of the private car (private travel at any desired time) with the social advantages of public transport (no congestion and parking issues)." - Bo Stern from Bookmarklet

You can keep that, I'll take a BMW M5, thanks - LANjackal

have some of you had personal bad experiences with him? Is it just that you think he's arrogant. I've personally got no issue with the guy aside from the fact that he's technically competition for TheNextWeb and I think he & his site make techmeme way too often! :) - Zee.

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My personal interactions with Mike have all been good. (E-mail, phone, F2F) His positions no doubt occasionally disagree with mine. - Louis Gray

Well, I for one do not hate or dislike him. In fact, I think he's brilliant, but he also tends to think out loud (or think while posting, I guess) and therefore comes across as abrasive. He is frequently wrong too, but has real trouble thinking that there may exist other viewpoints besides his own, especially in the midst of a discussion. At times like that he just goes on and on, and eventually just makes a bore of himself. - Jim in Real Time

@Louis and that's what i seem to hear from most industry professionals who have encountered him...So i'm stil left confused. Is it mainly because at times Techcrunch has broken embargoes and so the majority of haters are PR folk and entrepreneurs? Or is it mainly other competing bloggers? I mean where the heck does some of the hatred come from... - Zee.

He didn't really pop up on my radar till that thing with Leo Laporte (which apparently was the result of a big misunderstanding?) I was subbed to the TechCrunch account here on ff and thought that a lot of the stuff that popped up was pretty interesting. If anything I "hate" that he's gone... - J. Abdul-Qahhar

I think he's a savvy guy and he's opinionated. I don't know the guy personally but it seems like he takes things *way* too personal, but perhaps that's what drives him to be great. Lately it seems like he just doesn't want to listen anymore and that's a dangerous place to be for any profession IMO. - AJ Kohn

@AJ I would normally tend to agree but then again - when someone spits in his face and he receives death threats...surely that's personal no? - Zee.

My initial personal interaction with MA was when I was at Mashable - given that, it's not surprising that it was particularly negative. He seems to have softened on me as an individual since I've left there. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

1st of all, I don't *actively* dislike him = I don't seek out opportunities to tear him down or flame him. I even empathized with him when he wrote about being publicly spit on and considering restraining orders in the past. Then the Last.fm episode happened. After the dust settled, it was clear that MA had spun whatever actually happened in the most accusatory manner possible. I... more... - LANjackal

He is the Perez Hilton of tech. He made an ass load of money only by hurting people. He loses his freakin mind if ever the camera looks back at him and calls him on his fuckery. He horribly over-reacts to perceived "danger" and threats and "violence" (he was spit on, that is not violence). - Matthew DeVries

@Mark - can you reveal any details publicly about the interactions with him at Mashable? - Zee.

Zee - I can say that I do appreciate your objective review of this subject. Good on you. - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge

@Zee.: Few people deserve that type of abuse and surely Mike doesn't. But ... he shouldn't be surprised by getting negative reactions. One should have a real understanding that the masses are full of loons. (I've received hate mail at my home from editorials I had in newspapers.) So, the more you instigate, the more you should expect to incite the loons. It's not fun, it's not fair, but... more... - AJ Kohn

I've know Mike for some years now, and I think he is one of the smartest and nicest people I've ever met. The way he looks at businesses and technology is remarkable, and it has been nothing but an honor and pleasure working with him. Imagine getting pitched 30 times a day by entrepreneurs for one story, spat on the face, and more. That's why Mike has to deal with, and no one gives him any credit. - Daniel Brusilovsky

Well said, AJ. It doesn't make it right, but it's reality. - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge

I consider what he pulled on Leo Laporte a personal attack so mark me down in the MA=hate category. He might not have known Leo for a long period of time, however the people that have followed Leo for a long time as I have, know his credibility and integrity are above reproach. - John Blanton from twhirl

@Matthew DeVries but death threats is another story altogether...And personally, I would take being spat on very seriously (probably because I'm half iraqi...but still) - Zee.

@Zee I'm probably not supposed to, and it might come back to bite me, but I will anyway. I had posted a blog entry up at Mashable that had some youtube video of a leaked product demo or something - we had gotten a tip on it in our Mashable inbox, and I ran with it before doing my due diligence. Turns out someone downloaded the TC video before the blog post went up and uploaded it to... more... - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

@Zee: Just to make it clear, I don't support death threats or spitting on people. That's wrong. But from my observation of MA, he brings a lot of that on himself by his own actions. He makes a conscious decision to be an ass, and people are ... people, not computers. Your laptop won't get mad at you, but people will. - LANjackal from IM

I don't think folks hate him - though many really don't like him. From my viewpoint, he seems opinionated - and somewhat intransigent. Of course, that is true for most insightful people (even in the tech community). In many ways, he reminds me of Dave Winer, Adam Curry and even Robert Scoble. Each of these people have important things to say. Sometimes, the way they say it can alienate people. As for me, I like Mike's self confidence. But it's a fine line to walk. - Lorin Olsen

@Mark - thanks for sharing, very interesting - and yeah he probably did overreact but i guess you can see why he was pissed off eh - Zee.

Zee, with respect, what you're doing by starting this very thread is giving people yet another platform to people who would like to say why they dislike MA without knowing him. Apart from Mark (ex-Mashable), who is telling the story from one side obviously, I don't think you'll find a lot of people who are going to tell you why they dislike because of something he said or did to them... more... - Robin Wauters

@Zee I can see why he was pissed, but he could have handled it better. That's just from my side, though. The feuding between Mashable / TC was a little nutbar-ish, in my opinion. I know that the only reason I soured on TC at all was as a reaction to the hate from the other side of the table. I have no idea where the emnity started (probably goes back as far as the Jewish-Arab conflicts), and has as much basis in logic as that conflict does as well. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

@Robin I know what you're saying...but to be honest, I hope for the opposite. There have been a number of occasions when I've posted something written by Arrington and people automatically launch into attacks on him & his character. I raised this (after some debate in my head about whether I should I might add) because I wanted to provide a platform for people to calmly and rationally... more... - Zee.

Rather than something specific, wasn't the original criticism that Techcrunch was making & breaking web-startups back in "the day?" Which may or may not have lead to the amount of trolls commenting on Techcrunch, which may or may not have lead to the death threat, which may or may not have lead to the backlash at his comment on Laporte's Pre? Who really has time to keep track of it all, he's public so some people will hate him. - Vincent van Wylick

@Vincent i agree with the "he's public so some people will hate him" but there's no doubt in my mind from the time I've spent online - that he is targeted more so - Zee.

@Robin: "nothing but a blog" I'm sorry, but I'm someone who has nothing but a blog. Mike was named one of the 100 most influential people by TIME in 2008. I don't dislike Mike for what he does, he's a smart guy and a savvy businessman. But I do dislike his *reaction* to events that unfold and the idea that he's nonplussed that he could be targeted in such a way. Here's my analogy. I'm... more... - AJ Kohn

@Zee: "He's public so some people will hate him" Given that there are MANY public tech personalities, that can't be the only reason - LANjackal from IM

the wikipedia criticism section of techcrunch is very, very sparse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Vincent van Wylick

Having not read a single response above all I can say is watch this video where he accuses Leo Laporte of giving biased reviews because he had a loaner unit which had to be returned and all will be revealed http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Paul OFlaherty

@Paul - yep, but he has apologized outright for that. I've done worse. - Zee.

@Zee: Really? Where's this claimed apology? Link? - LANjackal from IM

@LANJackal http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - Zee.

@Zee: Thanks, reading now - LANjackal from IM

@Zee An apology is all well and good after the fact, It still doesn't change the fact that he was an asshole and if past behavior is anything to judge by he will be again.. Just listen to Laportes reaction, he's pissed not just because of that one event, but because of how Arrington has been for as long as he's known him.. - Paul OFlaherty

I don't hate Mike Arrington or like him either, I don't know him, I can only go by what he writes and what I've seen of him on line. He does like to stir things up, but I not sure if he is always ready for the reaction he gets, when he is not he comes across as self involved. Saying that I certain he would be both fascinating and hair pulling guy to know - Kim Landwehr

@Paul - yeah i thought the same..but its one person losing it. What i mean is, as much as i like/resppect him, Laporte isn't God - disagreements happen all the time at work and that doesn't make one person bad and the other good. Look, i'm not necessarily standing up for Mike here but I just want to try & put things in perspective. That argument on air is no where near enough for the targeted attacks I've personally seen online directed at him. - Zee.

Mathew: Arrington has helped MANY people and startups. You are wrong when you say he only hurts people. Absolutely wrong. - Robert Scoble

@Zee Laporte is by no means god.. LOL He's made his share of cock ups too in the past, but for all that Arrington has done good, he has a habit of rubbing people the wrong way if you know what I mean. He is deliberately abrasive because it brings him attention. When you're that abrasive you become someone that people love to hate. - Paul OFlaherty

I like Mike. I like Pete at Mashable. I have huge disagreements with how both of them report the news,but that's just my perspective on process journalism. That said, I think it's unfair to judge the guy (Mike) based on what we read online from his media outlet as many of us seem to. Unless you've met the guy in person, it's no use in making an assertion one way or another I feel. - Brandon Mendelson

Why do I get the feeling that the original question will not get answered in this thread? :) Based on a brief Google search, you can write a whole thesis on why people love/hate Arrington, and how justified it all is. - Vincent van Wylick

@Brandon - exactly. Deliberately controversial posts are part of what makes Techcrunch a success. It's entertainment, pure and simple. People take it far too seriously. - Martin Bryant

The problem is that it's not just entertainment. Techcrunch has a lot of voice and what it publishes can make huge waves on and off the internet. Whether such power should be wielded by a single person/editor, I don't know. - Vincent van Wylick

TechCrunch has more than a dozen employees at this point. - Robert Scoble

That's true, it's an organisation, which is great. But take today, he compared Friendfeed to a virus like Syphilis. I personally don't mind the comparison, but I'm sure other people will. It's provocative blogging and he's using a powerful platform, Techcrunch, to state a personal opinion. It's the nature of the internet that this is happening and I don't know where it's all going, but many little (potential) needles can make for a sharp object. - Vincent van Wylick

@Paul - guess what, the Leo thing was a mistake, a misunderstanding. It was cleared up inside an hour by the two people involved on the dispute and it was over. You are barney fife and are not allowed to have an opinion because you were not invovled in the dispute and the people involved were finished with it. Leo said it was done and forgiven, so be done with it and forgive it and quit... more... - Matthew DeVries from fftogo

Lol Abby... - Zee.

@Matthew DeVires, The questions asked here by @Zee is "Why do SOME of you dislike/hate Michael Arrington?" The incident with Laporte is a perfect example of why people dislike Arrington. The fact that the settled things between them afterwards is immaterial. - Paul OFlaherty

@Matthew DeVires I also suggest that instead of bitching at me for not reading what everybody else wrote in the thread, you go and read the question that started the thread! - Paul OFlaherty

@Paul it is material only to people who are dumb enough to believe that incident characterizes either Michael or Leo. - Robin Wauters

well said Robin - Zee.

@Robin, I don't believe it does. It was certainly out of character for Leo to explode like that. Again, it was an example of how Arrington rubs people up the wrong way. How being deliberately abrasive make you the person people love to hate, which I believe I said earlier in this thread. - Paul OFlaherty

i'm not a fan of Arrington. mostly because i find his mean-spirited behavior little more than link-baiting to promote his own self interest. i've watched from a distance (not a subsriber, etc.) and over the years i've seen him grow more and more strident in his posts - a typical pattern for someone on a personal downward spiral. in the last year this mean attitude has folded back on him... more... - MikeAmundsen

@Paul - That incident is not an incident, therefore is not relevant to the proceedings. You should delete your post and read the thread next time. - Matthew DeVries

Every industry has its Limbaughs and Hannitys. - Eric Rice

linkbaiting at its finest Zee, crawl back under a rock, you should be ashamed - Patphelan

I'm ambivalent - that means I don't give a shit! :P - Yuvi

@Pat - ashamed of myself?? Linkbaiting to what? - Zee.

Not called for, or accurate Patphelan.... - Matthew DeVries

When I was in college, there was this kid who claimed to like hockey, and we were watching a game. We called the goalie a "Sieve". He thought it meant asshole, and started calling everyone that for like 2 weeks. It showed that he didn't know jack about hockey. You seem to have just learned the word "Link-baiting" think it just means asshole and you're tossing it where ever, though it doesn't even remotely apply. - Matthew DeVries

Who? - Alix Whitmire

His name was Dave Roy. - Matthew DeVries

I don't dislike/hate Michael Arrington, he's been very helpful to me on a couple occasions, gotten me in contact with the right people right-away. - Brandon

@Pat: This isn't baiting in any definition of the word. Zee asked an honest question which probably should have been asked a looong time ago before things got to this stage. The OP doesn't link back to anything anyway. Careful with your accusations, please. - LANjackal

Heh, I read this thread before the current 'Friendfeed/Syphillis' post on TC. Annnnd that about sums it up. Makes me wanna go kill kittens. - Eric Rice

I feel out of the loop on this, too. - Fossil Huntress

I don't actually dislike him, I mean...I mentioned him in one of my songs. He does express strong opinions and usually a lot of people disagree with those opinions. I also think he does it on purpose to drive traffic, but I obviously can't prove that. Maybe he does believe all that stuff he writes :) - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

The dude was right, this is a Mob here. You would think all you California dudes would be surfin' or eating mushrooms, but here you are picking on each other! - ZuDfunck

I've delete a bunch of the last few comments from here - no i've never really done that before but the discussion was going completely off track... - Zee.

@All: I think the main question here has been answered. MA's internet presence is how most people know him, and many of those people get a negative impression from that, myself admittedly included. On the other hand, those who know him in person or follow him very closely have a more neutral-to-positive view. Character judgments will always be subjective and therefore will always vary... more... - LANjackal

@Zee: Good call - LANjackal

@matthew apples and oranges mate apples and oranges.... - Rasmus Lauridsen

No you didn't Zee, there were never any posts there. They were annulled from the proceedings and thus never happened. And now Paul and I will make up and no one gets to take either side, cause we're both hunky and dorry - Matthew DeVries

Zee - excellent! That is exactly what comment moderation is for! - Jannifer @wordsforliving

I started poking around the internet 12 years ago, and I spent a lot of time in political blogs, where feelings can run quite raw and grudges can be held forever. I've seen all manner of people and places, and I think I dislike Arrington for two reasons: (a) he runs his mouth without thinking far too frequently for someone who purportedly runs a "news" website and (b) I truly believe... more... - Steven Perez

ding ding ding. We have a winner here folks. Thanks Steven. People can hope all they want about a person's "good intentions" but ignoring your own powers of discernment and judgment in subservience to that hope is actually hopeless. Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing." - Temple Stark from email

For me, he falls into the same category as a lot of pundits: he has some very good, specific knowledge that he conflates into declarative statements of dubious provenance. While I can appreciate some of what he says, his often confrontational stance (before being questioned) is a turn off. - Jennifer Dittrich

Wow, thats an astonishing improvement. - DGentry

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The original plan was ICU for 2 days. He didn't stay half a day. wow. - LPH™ and his dog P™ from BuddyFeed

Awesome, I hope this kind of progress continues! - Aaron Hood

Big thumbs up! - Derrick

Hooray for good news! - James (!?)

That's wonderful news! - vicster is...

BTW, Loren is not allowed to make facial expressions. - LPH™ and his dog P™ from BuddyFeed

Good to hear. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)

Loren has gone for three walks today. The last walk was about half a lap around the sixth floor. - LPH™ and his dog P™ from BuddyFeed

Awesome to hear! - Robert Scoble

Wow! (((HUGS))) to Loren! - BEX

Amazing! - Anne Bouey

Good to hear this. Wish him well! - Rene Wirtz

Why isn't Loren allowed to make facial expressions? Anyway, great news! And wish him well! - Jeff Moron

:) - Rodfather

Woohoo! Praise God! :) - Dawn

Thanks for all the well wishes. It's not that I'm not supposed to make facial expressions; it's just that it hurts too much when I do. Basically I've had a forehead lift to go along with my new brain. Ouch. Staples get taken out today. - Loren Heiny

That's great news, Loren! - Ian Betteridge

NICE! - BEX

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*pats your hand* there, there. - Marie drinks champagne

Awwwwwwww! True love! Or is it "to blave"? - Josh Haley

Awesome. - Michael McKean

You're a good man, Charlie Brown. - Brett Kelly

I'm right there with you man. I mean, what does someone not-me need with 32 gigs? - Kevin Fox

You're a better man than I am. - Akiva Moskovitz

Johnny, let me know when you're ready to jb that 3G to do some video. - Josh Haley

So cute. :) - Ayşe E.

3G is totally still cool. Plus, at least for me, it's always a good feeling giving someone you love something fancier than what you have to make them happy. :) - Adam Turetzky

Very nice, well played Sir! - Robert Kenney

Cute post. :-) - Trish R

Awwww :) - Penny

:) gotta love those Worthingtons! - WorldofHiglet

Please note the resemblance: https://friendfeed.com/jworthi... - Akiva Moskovitz

Haha.. nice. :) - Michael McKean

You = KING - Mo Kargas

you rock sir - Capn' One Eye - adrift

.............................. Rach just downloaded the monkey peeing game... What have I done... - Johnny Worthington

;o lol - Capn' One Eye - adrift

how much how much - Jerome Loo

I might find myself in this situation in a few months. - Bradley Farless

so.. you are ok with it? :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Hahahaaaaa! - Martha

I am in the same situation, I hate the fact that my wife is about to buy one. - DailyAnnoyance.com

I solved that. I bought Maryam and Patrick one at the same time I bought myself one. - Robert Scoble

They look alike just switch them, she won't notice... - Luis

YOU ARE LESS OF A MAN NOW WORTHINGTON - Mike Nayyar

Indeed Nayyar... but I have a loving wife who not only thinks fondly of me but now has no excuses to yell at me while using my iPhone when out... cause she is doing the same thing - Johnny Worthington

Heck, I starlted out with the 3G myself, then helped my missus get the 2G/edge iphone. Actually I still think she has the better (or better looking) iphone. - George Hall (Australia)

There really isn't much need to worry about upgrading if you have a 3G. There's not that much of a difference. - Spencer

bwahaha! Her expression is awesome! Nyah~ :D But seriously, that is awesome! - Mokona

این آقاهه چقدر شکل رضا صادقیه اسمایلی بوشوک - Free will

When I saw the headline a little bit ago, I thought it was like the building in Brooklyn that just collapsed. These photos...wow. It just decided to have a lie down. I hope no one was hurt. - Admiral Anika

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I believe that I am flabbergasted. - Aaron Hood

That's horrible. It's like there was no foundation. - τorƍue

o_O - Parth Awasthi

Any structural engineers in the house? How is that possible. I'm not an engineer but I've built legos and logs and what not, and simply can't imagine what could do that short of an explosion (gas main?) or an earthquake. - Adrian

Wow. (edit: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories... ) - Andrew C

Thanks, Andrew. That article is very informative. - Admiral Anika

Aha! Sinkhole / erosion was my third guess. If something doesn't give underneath or energy is applied in a direction (earthquake, explosion, Godzilla, etc.) its simply can't topple over. - Adrian

Unfortunately, a migrant worker was killed in the collapsed building when he planned to jumped out of the window. More horribly, the buildings beside the apartment are slanting to the ground, which could be seen by the naked eyes, though the state media denied it. - xiawinter

ビルが横たわるように倒れてる事故写真。直接的にはショッキングなものじゃないけど、よく考えるとエライ恐ろしい。 - Sakurai.Catshop

u can find more photo here at http://bbs.sh.liba.com/t_13_42... - Paul

Adrian, There are many reasons why a building like this could fall over. If the foundation of the building was not sound or was sitting on unstable earth. If the structure was inadequately designed, the lower floors could collapse under the load from the upper floors. Luckily the building was under construction and no one was living in it yet. I wouldn't want to be living in any of the adjacent buildings until they figure out what caused the failure. - Jeff P. Henderson

From one of the other comments, it sounds like the buildings were built on unstable ground or their foundations were not designed correctly for the location. - Jeff P. Henderson

"About 130 nearby households were evacuated and inspectors were examining the foundations of seven other identical buildings in the "Lotus Riverside" compound, saying they appeared to be intact Saturday evening, the report said. The incident was a new blow for Chinese property developers, who have been severely hit by a sagging market amid the global financial crisis. Those who bought... more... - Jeff P. Henderson

The pilings sticking out from the bottom of the toppled building do not look very substantial nor do they look like they were very deep into the ground. - Jeff P. Henderson

"Concerns over poor construction and low-quality materials have plagued China's construction industry as the country rapidly builds up its cities and infrastructure needed to maintain its growing economy. Anger over poor construction boiled over during after last year's earthquake in central China after about 7,000 schools collapsed and relatives of dead children spoke out against graft they believed led to shoddy construction. " http://news.my.msn.com/regiona... - Jeff P. Henderson

Here's more photos: http://zonaeuropa.com/200906c... I see no re bar in the pilings that are sticking out of the bottom of the building. Definitely inadequate if not shoddy construction. - Jeff P. Henderson

很大原因可能是因为河堤渗水，导致基础松懈，所以基础才会连根拔起。 - Aang

Thank you Jess, for bringing this to the attention of English speakers. - Dallas Cao

This is why purchasing power parity adjustment of Chinese GDP is such nonsense. Shoddy construction of buildings and infrastructure in China is the norm. While not this bad, typically buildings through out the country will never last as long as a european or north american equivalents. - Gersham Meharg

That's the secret of the double number of GDP growth for the past years, they built something that didn't last long, soon they rebuild it and then the number were double counted. - Paul

This is nuts. I almost didn't believe it, but then I found pics from several different angles. This shoddy workmanship in China really needs to stop. It's just getting ludicrous now. Why are so many people there so keen on saving a yuan that they don't care if people get hurt or killed in the process? I know we have similarly unscrupulous businesses in the US, but they seem to take it to a much worse level in China. Perhaps because looser regulations and corruption allows people to get away with things. - Kamilah Gill

God has been busy blessing America, and then who has time to save our chinese people? - Paul

Is it my impression or is the 'foundation' completely clean? No stretched/torn steel supports etc?! - Adrian Scicluna

inşaat müh. arkadaşlara tez konusu.. - Profesyonel Öğrenci

this is like a nightmare, which I had, come true, ... where Im in a house that starts to shake back & forth and then turns over .. that is where I wake up. - Dickbuttkick

now u can see how it looks like after you woke up :) i can see that there is a big need of urban housing in china but to risk the lives of many people is just irresponsible. its houses...they are build to stay for some time i guess. they should spend a little more time to make it right - Chris Hofmann

Wow, I know where that is. Nothing like taking the time to properly scope out a location before building a high-rise on it. - Darren

Looks like the foundation only went about 6 feet into the ground. Hell, many two-story homes in the US go down that deep. So the fact that this is a 13 story building with such a shallow foundation, it isn't surprising that it just fell over. A stiff breeze could have knocked that building over. - Jason, Incognito

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp... - "They also took samples of concrete and reinforcing steel bars from the collapsed 13-floor building" - so apparently there was some amount of steel in there somewhere... - Andrew C

whoa!! - Susan Beebe

Wow! - Rachel Lea Fox

First look at this image, thinking -unreal (photoshop, Second Life ??) Image that pushes the envelope of actuality. Unreal city. - Brad Kligerman

wow - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ

fell like a deck of cards ... literally - Nitin Nanivadekar

监理呢没自杀吗 - 佛陀

@佛陀原因还没调查清楚呢，基础的问题是肯定的了，无非是地址勘有问题、设计有问题还是施工有问题的区别。当然新闻说的“民工误操作导致”的结果是相当可笑的，那样以后别上访了，随便发个消息说打算“误操作”一下，比恐怖分子还牛逼呢 - yagami

我早上听说那里是不能建房的是河坝。。。 - 佛陀

理论上说没有什么地方不能建房，看你基础怎么处理了。海上都能建石油钻探平台，在河边建个房子有什么问题呢？：）再说每个楼的施工都要经过钻探、设计、施工图审查、结构论证、现场监理等多个论证、监管环节，怎么一出事就有专家来搞马后炮呢，嘿嘿。 - yagami

@yagami 国内的专家就是搞这个的还是期待处理意见不过最无语的是买了房子的的人同期开发的那几幢 - 佛陀 from email

今天听说房子本身的质量还是不错的，各位可以看看图片上，房子整栋倒下，上面的玻璃很多都没碎：）））） - K.D.

呵呵是啊玻璃质量还真不错不知道那个厂的 - 佛陀 from email

主要是地基的问题, 虽然, 地基也是房子质量的一部分, 所以只能说, 上部分的质量还不错, 地基水分太大了...... - Roamlog

@K.D. 就像某些XX的现状一样，群众再团结，根基不稳，一样会倾覆的。 - yagami

其实，具体是什么原因，我觉得很难查出来了。做地勘和详堪的设计院现在肯定抓狂了。因为，开发商只要有合法的手续，出问题不是设计就是施工，这些都是外包的单位。只是这个开发商铁定要破产了。 - Aang

我觉得也不是质量问题。还是地勘没做好。但如果是地质多变，也确实是很难判断到底是什么原因。 - Aang

早上看到新闻说，现在政府不让退房款，要等最终调查报告出来；只是业主们已经炸开锅了... - K.D.

在地基工作上偷工减料也是有可能的啊层层转包 - 佛陀 from email

旁边那几幢买的人就是专家论证没问题后敢住吗特别是那些投资的都卖不出去 - 佛陀 from email

恩，现在关键是没有可信的论证.... - K.D.

照理说地质勘探的人都很清楚这种冲击平原上加上河边的地址状况很复杂（一般打到中风化层的话可能会很深），应该都不会马虎大意的，详勘阶段应该是按建筑平面甚至桩点去布点详勘了，所以会很谨慎，加上我国的结构设计都比较保守，所以我感觉还是施工的问题。管桩强度不够，或者长度达不到设计要求，是很要命的。 - yagami

你不会是说, 有人动了地基的设计图纸? - Roamlog

不管论证结果怎样,心理上那其他几栋就绝对不安全了,不是不相信科学要我肯定都不会住, 肯定睡不着心想万一睡着睡着就塌掉了呢... - 麦克.疯

国内根本没可信的第三方机构论证不是第三方的我看结果都是出自领导的意思的。。久而久之人们也不相信这一套 - 佛陀 from email

应该很快会有结果的。上海我不知道，广州的基础都有桩检测这一项，是必须做的，而且检测得还挺正规，一些主要的数据都有，如果监管和检测的资料齐全，加上现场再抽检的话，不难查出原因。我只是觉得到现在还遮遮掩掩没公布开发商，有点可疑。 - yagami

我觉得,在这个条目下用中文进行讨论感觉怪怪的..., 还有, 回复太多了, 翻起来真痛苦.. - Roamlog

应该不会躲猫猫吧怎么大的事包不住的 - 佛陀 from email

没关系，大家都会用翻译脚本的....:))) - K.D.

主题是英文不管啦我们讨论我们自己的哇咔咔 - 佛陀 from email

楼主应该看得懂，希望不会介意：） - yagami

不要相信那些检测监理还不是全部拿钱买通的啊我对土木的了解 - 佛陀 from email

大部分建筑都是有问题的除了那些大工程没人敢吧 - 佛陀 from email

@佛陀你说的我都相信，这行确实不清不楚的，但是在基础和主要结构问题上，一般没人敢马虎的，不知道这个项目怎么搞的，业内都很震精啊。 - yagami

我认为可以和三鹿的情况类似主要是开发商等太黑了贪的太多的缘故 - 佛陀 from email

Would be cool if Friendfeed could convert posts to my chosen language and visa versa. I'd sure like to be able to read and respond to these posts! - Jeff P. Henderson

是啊能自动翻译就爽啦哈哈楼上的老外说的对 - 佛陀 from email

@Jeff P. Henderson Try this bookmark http://wittman.org/project... - K.D.

我觉得我跟佛陀、老巫师等几个人，专门去毁人家非中文的帖子，都快“毁人不倦”了…… -__-! - yagami

你们应该做“ff说中文”的亲善大使，专门去促进ff的国际交流... - K.D.

我们还好起码能看懂点英文老外郁闷啦中文肯定是天文 - 佛陀 from email

上面还有日文，再次鄙视一下，ff不提供折叠功能。 ff doesn't support folding ,shame of that. - xiawinter

ls的这个肯定会有人回应：）））） - K.D.

@K.D. Thanks! Very Cool! I figured something like this existed. - Jeff P. Henderson

@Jeff You are welcome!!! - K.D.

听到这个新闻，第一感觉就是整栋楼倒下，玻璃窗都没烂，太震憾了！ - Hobbes

上海也应该震一震能震出多少问题建筑来啊 - 佛陀 from email

ls 不厚道.... - K.D.

确实不厚道，不把人民群众生命财产放在眼里啊。 - yagami

我只是想表达问题很多很大很普遍 - 佛陀 from email

是啊，我们在这里盖楼不也不亦乐乎... - K.D.

我们可不是为了盖楼而盖楼啊 - 佛陀 from email

Look at the bottom line, are those building supposed to stand on 30cm bases? - Burcu Dogan

现有的去彻查不太可能，将来建的能吸取教训，真的把人民群众生命财产当回事，就谢天谢地了。 - yagami

FF is so amazing that it collects users' comments from all over the world with different language, so how do you English-speaking guys read Chinese ? I suppose most of Chinese users read English with no difficulty. - xiawinter

其实我主要还是觉得是地质的问题。你说常理下，施工队是有可能在监理检查后，撤掉一些基础钢筋的，毕竟赚黑钱都是这个手法。但是中国的结构设计一般是比较保守的。而且，上部主体倒下的时候是基本是完整的，其实，反而显得质量貌似不错。毕竟，如果要偷工减料，钢筋含量、混凝土标号才是最关键的大头。管仝深度一般都不会有问题，毕竟还有个监理呀。如果真是桩基础深度不够，那只怕设计院难逃干系。设计的时候，确实是有可能因为开发商要求做结构优化，而“优化”掉一些东西的……至于是什么很难说得清楚。反正这次肯定要抓一拨人的。 - Aang

Everybody is welcome to join the group "Say Chinese in FF" if you have interest in Chinese language or information,which has more than 1000 members--http://friendfeed.com/chinese... - kelvin

@xiawinter 读中文有2个办法呀，1是学中文，2是用：http://translation.babylon.com/# - Aang

监理是很容易出问题的楼上 - 佛陀 from email

@Aang 实际在基础施工的时候，有些情况是可以少打桩的，比如说比设计深度提前遇到中风化层，这种情况一般是勘探比较粗，或者没按建筑平面布置详勘的情况会发生。多年以来做来做去就有施工单位会报告“提前打到持力层”，桩打不下去了，这样就省了长度和机械的费用。我也相信打了8米报告说打了12米的现象也不是少数行为。 - yagami

I am very curious, the buildings is slowly going down or a sudden fall? If it is the latter, not less likely to break the glass, especially the top floor. ----- 我是很好奇, 那個樓是慢慢倒下去的還是轟一下子倒下去? 如果是後者, 玻璃不太可能不破的, 尤其是最上面的樓層. - JohnDu™

#FF中文用户观光团我觉得，还有一种可能，就是，这房子在欲学MJ做45度倾斜，结果没斜好，倒了。 - Aang

@JohnDu™ 是轰然倒塌的。这座楼房的玻璃质量很好---it's a sudden fall. We have top-quality glasses here in China, welcome to place PO :)))))) #FF中文用户观光团 - K.D.

@K.D. glad to hear that. :) - JohnDu™

OMG - `aziz´ Alihan ÇETİN

So it was tired and wanted to lay down and take a nap. Who can blame them? - Gabe

wow! - Micah Wittman from iPhone

kinda reminds you how WTC 9/11 towers fell, doennit ? :/ - Petr Buben

not at all....9/11 towers was an explosion....this was a building cleanly breaking from foundation and toppling over - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ from IM

true - 9/11 was an explosion .. nanothermite .. they found it too - http://ae911truth.org - Petr Buben

@özge nedir bunun olayı ing bilmeyenler için bi açarmısın - Profesyonel Öğrenci

http://translate.google.com/transla... Makes this page mostly legible. - Tanath

The moral of this story... the foundation is the most important part of a building - and your life as well. - Jim Turner

Do we really have a mob mentality on Friendfeed? Have I just not seen it? What do you guys think? - Zee. from Bookmarklet

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Somebody needs to wake up Robert Scoble to defend Friendfeed ;-) - arjo

there is a mob/pile on mentality here at times, but it's nowhere near as bad as what i've seen on other "social networking" sites and definitely not in the way of "i'll kill you/go die" type stuff. nowhere near it. i find that people are more supportive of others on ff. a lot of people just instigate and attempt to be controversial in order to pull in comments. a few months later they're the same ones holding press conferences about how they're quitting friendfeed because it brings them no value. - Cee Bee

These comments may have come directly from FriendFeed but it's ludicrous to entirely place the blame here because the same stuff would have happened on Twitter (or another network) had FriendFeed not been around. - Aaron Hood

The question is not if "we" the Friendfeed users have a mob mentality but if Friendfeed makes it easier to create a Mob mentality. - arjo

FriendFeed is nowhere nearly as susceptible to mob mentality compared to Digg and Slashdot, thanks to the fact that most people on here use their real IDs. I've seen vigorous arguments here, but they're tame compared to the firestorms I've seen elsewhere. The blog post sounds like MA's upset that people didn't find his "ribbing" (to put it mildly) of Leo Laporte entertaining and took Leo's side instead of his. He's just upset about that. There's no mob mentality here at all. - LANjackal

@arjo: LOL it could be, but the fact that most people here use their own names acts as a barrier to that effect - LANjackal

Wow. Arrington REALLY has it in for FF comparing it to Syphilis. Has he lost it? :D - Kevin Whalen

++Kevin - LANjackal

So are we to take Arrington serious with such an outlandish comparison? I swear I'm not trying to all "mobbish" on him but what exactly is he thinking other than "Lookit me! I'm an attention whore! Come to my site so I can make money!" <shrug> - CAJ, somewhere else

It pops up from time to time.. But that seems to be common any where there's anonymous user driven content. - J. Abdul-Qahhar

I don't think of FF as having a mob mentality so much as a monoculture - RAPatton

@RAPatton: monoculture? Like how? I've noticed many contrasting viewpoints here ... could you explain what you mean by that? - LANjackal

I'm sorry, Arrington is the biggest drama queen I've seen on the internet in a long time. He canceled speaking engagements because he felt he was in danger after the backlash from the spat with Leo? Talk about overestimating his own importance in the world. He needs a new place to hang out. Or a bottle. Or something. Whatever stops the QQing. - tinypants - Hagitha of FF

@tinypants: Well I do recall him blogging about taking a break after some random person walked up to him and spat in his face or something ... but I think a lot of what he gets is self-inflicted. Poor behavior has its consequences - LANjackal from IM

@LANJackal Did you even read the link? MA spends an entire paragraph and links to MG Sieglers post on what I think of as the "Deanonymousation of the mob" I think hes thought long and hard on this subject, and maybe he should have thought on it a bit more. In any community you will find people with pitchfork and torch potential. He just happened to be at the receiving end of a run that... more... - Rasmus Lauridsen

PS people why the name calling? Try and govern yourselves a little bit, name calling is the first step towards you guys actually proving him right. Lean back grab a glass of wine relax and think of something else.. - Rasmus Lauridsen

Hold my pitch-fork, willya, while i light the torch!... - Thom Kennon

@Rasmus: Have you ever thought of telling MA to do the same? Advising him to research his facts before he mouths off? Telling him to stop his garbage accusations? He's always starting crap and then complaining when he gets hit in the face for it. You can't behave like he does without consequence. The definition of a balanced, proper online community is not one that tolerates deliberate troublemakers like himself, which is what he wants - LANjackal

What he's requesting is the permission/ability to firestart with impunity. Sorry, no community anywhere is going to grant him that. Period. - LANjackal

Well LANjackal, I was on my way over there to post, maybe you should do the same, but maybe wait 5-10 minutes before you, let the wine calm you down a little bit. He is not going to hear you here.. Why don't you go over where he can actually argue back and calmly tell him how you feel? - Rasmus Lauridsen

@Rasmus: He's on FriendFeed himself, actually. I'm sure he can see all of this if he wants to. In fact he's probably got a saved search of his name running (if he's smart). Should pick up this thread. - LANjackal

@Rasmus: I'm sorry, I didn't think that calling him a drama queen was name-calling. No, I'm being serious. I apologize, I don't want to become one of those angry online posters saying rude things. I should clarify and say that while I recognize that sometimes people make good on their online threats, Arrington seems to be blanketing all the blame on FF without properly acknowledging... more... - tinypants - Hagitha of FF

LAN, their are outliers, but for the most part in terms of politics, technology etc there is a single culture on FF in my opinion - RAPatton

@RAPatton: The only monoculture I see here is that everyone's obsessed with sharing, real-time and the cloud *shrugs* - LANjackal

@LANJackal - i'd love to hear your thoughts on this http://friendfeed.com/zee... - Zee.

Where people are involved there is a mob mentality....not a useful blog post. - Geoff Schultz

Arrington complaining about trolls and attacks is like online security companies complaining about viruses. They feed off of them, and some of us suspect they create them. - Cristo

Best analogy yet ^^^ - Micah Wittman

Zee: it's another Arrington poop fight. He throws enough of it on the wall to see what sticks, gets Robert Scoble riled up, and a mess of blog posts and forum fights ensue. SOP for Arrington. Meanwhile, he reaps the benefits of notoriety and links back to his site, all without ever setting foot in here, because we're all going over there to see what he wrote. - Steven Perez

*sigh* Of all the online communities that I have been / are a member of, this one is the *least* susceptible to mobs. Now, mobs will happen here, because it's a community. Have you seen the news lately. Mobs happen in real life too, and social networks are just an online version of a community. Each person on here is a *real* person (spam bots notwithstanding) who has real emotions and... more... - Glenn Slaven

@Glenn: Amen - LANjackal

Of course, but the mob is everywhere. It's just _more visible_ on Friendfeed - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

But Arrington is not arguing against FF in particular, he's arguing against Social Media as a whole: "/sites like FriendFeed/ allow the centralization of a conversation to occur". - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

With all due respect, it might be wise to calm down and see this for what it is. A serious attempt at getting us to look at ourselves and ask, is it wise or needed to make every single comment we make in the online arena? Maybe its better to pick our battles for the ones that actually matter, like real life people who are being oppressed by their governments or such.... - Daniel Berman

"They say that the way to a man's heart is through his stomach but it seems the dining tables have turned as increasing numbers of men are taking up cooking in a bid to seduce women. Dubbed 'Gastrosexuals' this new generation of men consider cooking more a hobby than a household chore and use their kitchen prowess to impress friends and prospective partners. Men having the ability to cook is also now a key factor in attracting women along with salary, status, personality and appearance, according to new research. The report 'Emergence of the Gastrosexual' cites the popularity of superstar chefs Gordon Ramsay and Jamie Oliver as a factor in making cooking a macho pursuit. According to the study by food company PurAsia 48 per cent of people say being able to cook makes a person more attractive to them and 23 per cent of 18-34 year old men say they cook to potentially seduce a partner. The report also shows 60 per cent of British men now regularly cook for friends and family, favouring... more... - Cee Bee from Bookmarklet

take the "gastrosexual" test right here: http://www.gastrosexual.com/ - Cee Bee

Men who cook = sexy. Men who talk ad nauseum about their cooking = unsexy. Just feed me. I don't care how organic, free-range, farm-fresh or expensive your stuff is. That's like bragging about what's under the hood of your car. Just drive. - Admiral Anika

Just another excuse for someone to give themselves credit for coining a term. - Amber, Random Time Lord

oh yes, there's a few here on FF.....:) - WorldofHiglet

I cook everything in a microwave oven. Does that mean I'm microsexual? :) - Morton Fox

++++Amber. Why the hell does "sexual" have to tagged to everything? What's the point of the label? I never thought anything could be worse than "foodie". I was wrong. - Admiral Anika

i guess the sexual part is using cooking as a vehicle for getting laid - Cee Bee

*chuckle* Aye, it's not about foodies getting some, it's about becoming a psuedo-foodie to get some. - Michael W. May

Glad I am born and bread a foodie. ;-P - Mathew A. Koeneker

Yeah, no...I got that. I'm talking in the larger scale of things. I mean, many people have the goal of of getting laid, but we don't call gearheads "autosexuals", okay, well that term wouldn't work, but you get my point? Why the need to do this to everything nowadays? - Admiral Anika

actually, I thought the "sexual" part referred to getting the woman on the left a sammich so that she can reverse the amenorrhea. - Sue Radd

Ah, I gotcha. I don't know why. I don't understand many things about our culture. - Michael W. May

Especially now with the recession on, this is one trend I not only agree with, I'd fall victim to. I am completely "domestically disabled" so having a guy taking the time to cook a meal for me , and have an intimate conversation at home for two... Huge turn on. - Nimabeckie

Did I mention I cook? *inno* - Michael W. May

"Over half of the men surveyed prepare meals using separate ingredients everyday." Does the other half only use one ingredient then or do they not cook at all? For the record, I cook because I like to eat nice food, not because I want to seduce women... - Tony Ruscoe

Hehe, Tony - maybe the other half eat 'Bachelor Chow' as seen on Futurama: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LY-9PT... - WorldofHiglet

I'm a gstrobitionist. I like to take food porn of my cooking so that I may make others jealous. - Wirehead

I finally decided my husband was going to be the head cook and he is excelling with different recipes. Sometimes I help and most times I ask what he is making me for dinner. I am now spoiled. Really it is a matter of him grilling or making me a protein base, he is too much a carb head otherwise. - Janet

Shoot. My secret's out. - ha3rvey (wants confit) from fftogo

Harvey, you are a gastrosexual! - Shevonne

Can we all agree on a new name for this ASAP? - Tech Introvert

So, Janet's huband is a 'carbosexual'. See, it's easy to trendify eveything! - Admiral Anika

Ohhh, Carbosexual! I like it, sparky is one of those types too. I know when the husband is not happy with me as the meal is all carbs and then I must do the FFY dinner (fend for yourself) - Janet

A recipe for Disaster.................... - Kevin J Hatton

SPARKY. - Jordan Hofker

Carbosexual. I like it :) - Sparky

My husband has been doing this for 18 years! - Head Ov Metal

you're married? nnoooooooooo! i was gonna make you some panini and UPS them overnight - Cee Bee

Truth be told, I just want to be a sexusexual. - Michael W. May

gastrosexual...I like it! - Josh Haley

LOL @MWM - Admiral Anika

P.S. From Urban Dictionary : foodie- A person that spends a keen amount of attention and energy on knowing the ingredients of food, the proper preparation of food, and finds great enjoyment in top-notch ingredients and exemplary preparation. A foodie is not necessarily a food snob, only enjoying delicacies and/or food items difficult to obtain and/or expensive foods; though, that is a variety of foodie. - Nimabeckie

My prayers are with you and Loren! - joey

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Three doctors have interviewed Loren and are making decisions. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Prayers sent your way. - Janet

:( - Admiral Anika

Positive thoughts and vibes. - Helen Sventitsky

He is eating dinner right now - while doctors are waiting for film - LPH™ and his dog P™

Hugs to you & family. - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕

For those who don't know Loren, Loren Heiny develops applications, such as the Silverlight-based Search TIP and Math TIP, MathPractice, WebcamNotes, ShareKMC, and many more. Loren has written numerous books on programming and is an experienced commerical software developer. His first love is Robotics. Microsoft has awarded Loren a Tablet PC MVP each year since 2003. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Oh man. :( - Rodfather

I hope he will be ok *hugs - Shevonne

Positive thoughts sending to his way. - imabonehead

You family will be in my thoughts. I hope all ends well. - Rodfather

For those interested: the hospital served him a cheeseburger, fries, chocolate cake, and tea... - LPH™ and his dog P™

Thank you for sharing this. Prayers, good wishes, and warm thoughts winging his way from here. - Warner Crocker

Get well soon, Loren! - Cheryl Jones

I am sad, the Heiny family is so good. - Robert Scoble

My prayers for you and Lroen! Get well soon Loren :-) - RetiredTeacherD

My prayers and thoughts are with Loren and family. - Anne Bouey

Sending positive and best-outcome thoughts your way. - Jason Miller

Please tell Loren we're thinking of him and PLEASE keep us updated. Moving this to my front page for monitoring closely. - Molly

Loren's tumor is 4.6cm by 3.5 cm by 2.5 cm - no spines. No surgery tonight. We are waiting for more decisions .... radiologist said it would be rare for this to be related to the colon cancer .. but that must be determined. - LPH™ and his dog P™

God's grace be with you all. - Dawn

Prayers up - Craig Eddy

I am SO sorry to hear this news of Loren. Please let him know what he is in our thoughts and prayers. We will also be praying for any of the specialists whose care he will be under. May God be watching over Loren and your family during this time my friend. Please keep us posted as you can. - Kevin Devin

Oh my goodness. - DGentry

heaps and heaps of positive energy headed his way! - vicster is...

My prayers are with you - Soup

Loren is in Scottsdale Memorial Hospital I am talking with him on the phone. He told me to check Friendfeed for his thread :) He looked from his iPhone (yes, the new 3gs). Larry just left to get some sleep so I'm talking with him to distract. Mom & Dad will go to Phoenix tomorrow. We'll know more tomorrow. Please send positive thoughts and thank you for your thoughtful support. - Lora Heiny

Wow, Loren can't catch a break. So he has a brain tumor? Is it on the surface of the brain? My mother in law had a bigger one that that, had it operated on, and is fine today. Her behavior was very weird for a while, though. She couldn't draw the right side of a clock, for instance. This is scary stuff and it bums me out. Loren has a lot of well wishers. For everyone who doesn't know... more... - Robert Scoble

Sorry to hear this - I hope you get good news from the doctors. - WorldofHiglet

Hoping for the best outcome. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Thanks so much for keeping us up to date on Loren's progress. Hugs and prayers for him and his family. - Molly from email

I hope everything works out all right. - Brent - Loving Life

Fingers are well and truly crossed. - Timothy Griffin

Sad to hear this. Get well soon. - Vasanth Dharmaraj

Loren has a team of doctors discussing options. The radiologist spoke to my oldest brother and said it would be rare for the tumor to be related to the cancer Loren has been fighting for the past several years. The good news is that they are presently thinking this situation is operable. Robert -- Loren's memory started to fail and one of his friends noticed the change. This probably saved Loren's life. - LPH™ and his dog P™

We found out this morning that the steroids taken last night have reduced the swelling around his eye. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Loren, I need some help on a tablet app, do you have your pc with you? Take care man our thoughts and prayers are with you. /frankgo - frank Go

My prayers are with you. - James Stratford

6/26 Update: The surgeon decided Loren's "small-sized lemon" tumor is urgent but not an emergency. The assumption is now that the tumor is related to the other cancer (very rare). The surgery will take approximately 4 hours. He'll spend 2 days in ICU and 2-5 more days in the hospital. After 2 weeks of bed rest, the doctors will do another full body scan. He had a positive reaction to the steroids and the edema has gone down. - LPH™ and his dog P™

LPH: good to hear. Yeah, brain tumors cause weird behavior changes. My mother in law couldn't recognize ANYTHING to the right of her. The brain is very amazing. The good thing is that she got back all that ability within a month. The brain routes around damage very well so I'm hopeful Loren will have a full recovery. Thoughts are with the Heiny's. Not fun to go through. If I ever go through this, make sure it's at a hospital with wifi! :-) - Robert Scoble

Positive vibes are heading towards Loren from down under. Keep the good thoughts flowing. - Neil Roodyn

Oh, so very sad to hear this. I wish him all the best. All his relatives too. - Ton Zijp

Sending all the best to you and Loren - you are in my thoughts. - martha

Good luck- and a friend of mine survived a similar tumor so hopefully it will work out well! - anna sauce

Robert - we are hoping his memory recovers after this surgery. Amazing that he could keep 20k lines of code in his head - and now he wonders whether he took his meds for the day -- but he keeps on smiling. Frank: I missed your previous message. I hate to break it to you - but Loren didn't want any computers with him at the hospital. Only the Apple iPhone 3G S is by his side. He appreciates everyone's kind notes and good will. He's stronger today than yesterday. - LPH™ and his dog P™

That's a relief. Hang in there Loren :) - Rodfather

LPH: I'm hopeful as long as the tumor is on the surface of the brain. If it's embedded then things get tougher. It was amazing to see how my mother-in-law couldn't draw pictures, or tell you who is standing to her right. But she could do everything on the left. That all came back, so I'm hopeful his memory will come back too. - Robert Scoble

Thank you for the updates. Sending good positive vibes for Loren & family. - Maria Niles

Sorry to hear, I hope he gets better soon. - Tyson Key

Hoping for the best. - Derrick

Robert, pictures are showing the tumor is "in the best position" - close to the skull. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Luck and strength to Loren and all of you. Hope he'll be clamoring for his computers again very soon! - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Sorry to hear the news last night. Today sounds more promising. Good vibes from Seattle. Hoping ur restIng well and will keep waiting for updates. - Eliot

Update: I made a mistake earlier regarding Loren's memory. Actually, it's aphasia. He can't speak the memory but can type it. Loren's been asking for a computer to type out some ideas. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Wow, that's so interesting. He can type the words but not say them? - anna sauce

Surgery is scheduled for 2 pm PDT. Yes Anna. He does speak but gets tied up with the words. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Sending positive thoughts for a successful surgery. - Mike Doeff

My thoughts and prayers for you and Loren. - Kathleen Forden

Loren recorded a little video before surgery http://www.youtube.com/watch... Surgery started on time at 2pm. The mid-surgery update we received was that it's going well. We think we'll hear more around 6pm. LPH is on his way to PHX then hospital - Walter is getting ready to leave the hospital to pick 'em up. (thanks, Walter!!!) - Lora Heiny

Dr just came through. Went well. No real surprises or complications. Biopsy showed tumor is the same metastatic adenocarcinoma as before. Thinks he got all. Radiation will take care of rest. We can go see him in ICU in about 1/2 hr - Lora Heiny

Of course there's nothing to like about this, but I wish you both the best! Love and hugs to both of you. - Leo Laporte

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:( {{hugs}} - pea

I'm sorry, Chris. - Admiral Anika

You have my full sympathy, and compliments for a very brave post. - Stephen Mack

Like Leo said, wishing you both the best as you transition into this new phase -- both personally and professionally. Your contributions to the community are amazing and I hope you continue to push forward enriching the lives of geeks and non geeks alike across teh tubes and internets. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Nothing more to add to Leo's comment. All the best to both of you! - Holger Eilhard

Sorry to hear of this, but you do what you must for the both of you to be happy. - JA Castillo

All the best to both of you! :) - TheHenry

change can be good sometimes, best of luck to both of u - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Sorry to hear, but hopefully a start of a new day Chris - Jorge Escobar

+1 on JA's comment. - Patrick Jordan

All the best to both of you and thanks for having the guts and dignity to share what must be a painful, personal experience. - WorldofHiglet

Sorry to hear it Chris. Never an easy process. - Nathan Chase

I'm sorry to hear this Chris. *hugs* - Carmen - Happy 2010!

Well, I don't know you personally or professionally, but, I'm still sorry you are hurting. Hoping you two are able to get through this amicably. - Yolanda

Ponzi and you are in my prayers. - ChiliMac

I cannot add anything more to Yolanda's comment, so I'll simply say that I echo it. - Miss Elle

Sorry, Chris. - Hao Chen

Sorry dude :( - Rodfather

Sorry to hear Chris. I hope everything is ok and wish you the best during this difficult time. - Mark Krynsky

Sorry to hear that, Chris. :( - Michael McKean

My condolences, Chris. As a long-time community member, I must credit you to share this information. It's never easy going through this kind of thing, but I hope all turns out well. - David Ford

Sad to hear this; hope everything works out for you both. - Andrew Terry

Handle your business, Chris. - Derrick

Best of luck to you both. See you on the other side man. - Carlos Ayala

Take care of yourself Chris. I am sorry. - Kamath (नमः)

Good luck, dude - Andrew

Chris, there's no formula for how to handle the public side of this, but your post seemed sufficient and decent. All the best (to everyone involved) during this difficult time. - Micah Wittman

Whoa, so sorry ot hear that Chris. Damn. - Josh Haley

you're still a healthy good looking if a little quirky fella - you've got plenty of relationships to look forward to :) - Zee.

I wish you both the best, whatever happens. You've always come across as a strong guy, and your community will always be there to support you. - deakaz

Love and support to both of you. - Robert Scoble

wishing both of you the best always. - Kim Landwehr

Chris, you know I'm a friend for life. I wish the best for you both. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)

I'm sorry for you both. Can't be easy. - Christian Burns

I'm so sorry for you both. It's never an easy thing; harder still to say it in public. My best wishes go with you both. - Karoli

I dont know you nor a personal or professional , but u make me laught, learn, buy and seeing u for so many time in youtube and the stream , you are one of my best friends without knowing you Theres nothing i can say about this, but if it helps, U know we all love you too . PEACE Chris ps, sorry 4 my bad english - elefantastico

See ya at Gnomedex Chris, any support needed and we're here for you. - Greg Birch

:-( I'm sorry, Chris. Warm thoughts and hugs to both of you. - Ladybug Heather

Guess it's finally time for us to get drunk and hug awkwardly. - Akiva Moskovitz

Wow. Not much to add other than sorry to hear because I know it has to have been a rough time making that decision and then going through with it. Good luck to both of you. I hope things look up from here. - Lindsay is in 20-ten

Sorry to hear about that, good luck, I am sure it is very difficult to go through. - Andrizzle Gizzle

Sorry to hear about that, Chris. - Derek Coward

Ah man,that sucks. hope all goes well for you chris good luck. - pcguru626

Luckily you have plenty of support ready at a moments notice. - Pete Delucchi

I'm so sorry to hear about this Chris. All the best. - Lloyd Hannesson

Thanks for this post...thinking warm throughts for you. - susan mernit

Thank you for sharing your dark moments with us in addition to your bright ones. My best to you both. Marriage is not easy. - Francine Hardaway

Majorly saddened to hear both of you. But things and people change, it's a natural part of life. - Robbie Steele

Really sorry to hear that, Chris. I'm sure it's tough on you both. Best of luck to the two of you in your future personal endeavors. - Josh McConnell

sorry to hear that man - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ

Sad to hear the news. Best wishes to you and Ponzi. - Mike Lewis

:( - Valley

good luck! - Thomas Hawk

Do what's best for the both of you - Cassidy

:( - timepilot

Life happens. Best of luck to you, Chris. - Laura Norvig

{{{{ HHHHUUUUUGGGG}}}}} - Susan Beebe

Take things one day, one step, even one BREATH at a time. You will make it, Chris! - Now Voyager

I went through this last year - it's not easy, and it's an emotional roller coaster, but you have to believe that happiness and peace lies on the other side. Best of luck. - Iain Baker

Perhaps consoling (I hope) http://www.chimehosting.com/moonali... - HelloHealthy

Goodluck Chris - Steve Allen

Good luck bud - Jeremiah Owyang

Best of luck. I hope that new opportunities open quickly for you after this door closes and that you find yourself in a better place. - Martha

Best of luck Chris! - Garin Kilpatrick

Chris, just saw this - it's never good news. I wish you the best and stay positive! - Jesse Stay

Well, that sucks. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

:) - Tracy Benham

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mom and dad found him and are safeguarding him from above. i went to take these photos and they got close to me as if they were trying to warn me to stay away. little dude has spunk. check his crest! - Cee Bee

and these photos suck, but they were the best i could do under low lighting/misty conditions - Cee Bee

it's the little cardinal that could - Cee Bee

the friendfeed feelgood story of the day! - Cee Bee

Awesome! - Rachel Lea Fox

Adorable until this starts - sun up to sundown :http://12seconds.tv/channel... - Janet

oh wow. why does he do that against your window? that's just strange. no birds around my way have gotten that weird - Cee Bee

This has been going on for six years, feel the birds have a genetic predisposition now. The windows have a reflective coating so we think he sees himself and his reflection is a threat to the nest. Along with the pecking you get the nice cardinal spit stains on the window. The cats are amused though. - Janet

Yay! - Ladybug Heather

Sweet! <3 - Head Ov Metal

Yes Taryn, six years and now a major joke at our home. I know the newer little pecking/spitting/pooping pretty cardinals are not the same ones but offspring of the original. He moves from window to window. Also had a wild turkey tom pecking on our front window in full regalia of feathers, he thought his reflection was another tom going after his hens. Cats love this stuff. - Janet

Yayyyy! Glad the parents came through for the little fella. :) I had this lost one in my yard 2 years ago: http://www.flickr.com/photos... The parents were close so I took the shots quickly before I got dive bombed. They finally helped him or he finally flew away before it got dark. - Carmen - Happy 2010!

Oh my WANT. - Mona Nomura

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Very cute. - Jordan Hofker

<3 <3 <3 x forever - Yolanda

This is our new little girl foster kitten. No name yet, but she is super adorable. She was found in a lot and is very scared and skiddish. Everything makes her jump and she is rather afraid of people. But the magic of head rubs wears away all reservations and I already have gotten a huge purr! She will be a lap cat before long. We will only have her for about 9 days as she is already large enough for her operation and if we can get her liking people they want to get her adopted at soon as possible. - Rachel Lea Fox

At AT&T We know Drama! - Tony C from IM

Notes my last post wont make much sense It was intended for the 7 post farther up the food chain sigh - Tony C from IM

*lol* no worries Earl. You can delete if you like, or just leave it. It's all good! - Rachel Lea Fox

Cutie pie!!! Don't know if you've tried this before, but rubbing something scented on all the critters in your home (I use rose water) helps them realize they're in the same pack. I would dab a bit on me and a bit on my cats to help everyone get acclimated. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

yay! There are tons of kittens now at most shelters if you are interested. So cute! - Anna Lynn M.

Good tip! Thanks Tina. Might be really useful with this one. She has been separated from her brothers and sisters as they are all hissing and spitting at people and she was just cowering and hiding so they thought she would adapt quicker separated from the pack. So now she feels very alone. She has that blue bear which she sometimes hides behind which is currently her pack. Petting is working well so far but every little thing that helps is good. - Rachel Lea Fox

If she's adopted the blue bear into her pack, put the scent on her and the bear first so she'll get used to it. Then start putting a bit on you or whichever human interacts with her the most. Then add in the other animals and people. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Anna, thanks. The shelter I foster with has had less kittens this year than usual, but it seems to be picking up (good for me, bad in general) so I'm hoping I will get more pretty soon after giving this girl back. If there is another lull, I might look into other shelters, but in the past the ones in my area have wanted me to foster cats in general, and I can only do kittens. My older cats won't accept adult cats. - Rachel Lea Fox

I really have to stop looking at pictures of kittens or I am going to cave and get one before my daughter is completely toilet trained (I promised one as her reward). - Martha

Here is the little girl purring: http://friendfeed.com/phoenix... - filmed with my iPhone, sound is not as loud as real life. - Rachel Lea Fox

Martha, are you in northern ca? if so, let me know when your daughter is potty trained and maybe I can recommend a kitten or two. :) - Rachel Lea Fox

Animals are so lucky for people like you. - Patricia

Thanks Patricia. I'm so lucky to have all these wonderful sweetie animals in my life. they make me smile. Kevin and I both get so much out of having them!! - Rachel Lea Fox

Patricia, that is AWESOME!!! My older cat will only let me take kittens, she feels threatened by most all adult cats. But she loves the kittens, and I do too so I don't ever get them older than about 3 months. I haven't had many this year, I'm feeling a bit kitten starved. So this little girl will get tons of affection! - Rachel Lea Fox

want - anna sauce

It's so cute.. I want another kitten.. - Colette

رونوشت به نیما کلیکی، پیکسل - Nimaa

Unfortunately, we are in the northeast, but maybe you have suggestions for fostering in this area? - Martha

Martha, my sister has looked into foster dogs in the Rochester area, but she will likely know about the cats some too. She has done some volunteering, but not fostering yet. Other than that area I wouldn't know much. - Rachel Lea Fox

She's beautiful. - mike fabio

Aww, looks like my kitty, only about 14 years younger. - Rachel Garb

Awesome Rachel! You have a very pretty kitty then!!! - Rachel Lea Fox

Rachel, would you know of any place where I can make a donation for the organisation which rescues kitties / cats ? A website would be good, any place in Bay Area would be fine as well. Thanks. - vivekian

what a sweetie - BEX

vivek, we foster for the Palo Alto Animal Services who services Palo Alto, Los Altos, Los Altos Hills and Mountain View. We started with them because Kevin works in Mountain View and heard they were looking for people to foster kittens and most places ask you to foster cats in general (our older cat won't accept adult cats). They are a non profit and we have made donations to them... more... - Rachel Lea Fox

How are the home cats enjoying this latest cute visitor? - Anne Bouey

They are okay. There is always an adjustment period but then they love the kittens. We kept her separate from them for most of the day with any of them really realizing or stressing. About an hour ago we had a mini introduction. Nym is doing just fine. She seemed to like the kitten, she sniffed her a lot and even buried her nose in the kitten's fur for a bit before getting bored and... more... - Rachel Lea Fox

Enjoy your short time with this one! - Anne Bouey

Thanks Rachel. I will look them up. - vivekian from email

I do believe I've been accepted. my finger just got a tongue bath! - Rachel Lea Fox

:) - Anne Bouey

Cute! - Chris Luckhardt

OMG ... Cute!!! - Charlie Anzman

Great Pics............. - Kevin J Hatton

what a cutie - (jeff)isageek

I am positively dead of cute overload! - Amie Gillingham

Aww - Tyson Key

right at this moment she is sitting on my lap purring up a storm!! - Rachel Lea Fox

I'm totally jealous Rachel - Mitch

That's tabby, right? - Mitch

این کپی پیکسلمه که - Nima

"It seems that the Iranian soccer (or, football, as it were) players who wore green armbands as a gesture of solidarity with the nation’s protesters during a televised match against South Korea in Seoul have been banned from playing soccer in the country. For life. Their names are Ali Karimi, 31, Mehdi Mahdavikia, 32, Hosein Ka’abi, 24 and Vahid Hashemian, 32, and Iran’s pro-government newspaper reported that they have all “retired.” Granted, in terms of graveness, this doesn’t really compare to what’s actually going on in Tehran and other parts of Iran. However, as Matthew Yglesias points out, it’s not insignificant. And it’s certainly telling. He writes:" - Cee Bee from Bookmarklet

…a dictatorial regime that prefers to stay in power through “soft” methods can use the threat of destroying people’s careers. Instead of being put on trial and executed, becoming a martyr for the cause, you can just be rendered unemployable in the field of your choice in a decision nobody has to publicly defend but everyone understands. You become, then, not an imprisoned hero, but... more... - Cee Bee

Alas destroying someone's career is a common technique everywhere - including our civilised ones... - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Can we give them asylum here in US? Our team needs the help. - Steve C

Yes, and I'd like to thank you for referring to us as uncivilized people Joelle :) - Ashkan

*shakes head* This is sad but I have a feeling these guys can get on with a team elsewhere (if they don't already play professionally somewhere). It sucks being deprived of the honor of playing for your country for simply expressing solidarity but I don't think their career has to be over necessarily. - Give 'Em DBizness

That's awful. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

too ridiculous for words.... - Live4Emma (L4S)

That's sick - Shevonne

Real Heros - Amir

Any openings on the Korean team? - Josh Haley

the euphemism of "retired" made me think of the opening crawl to "Blade Runner": "This was not called execution. It was called retirement." - Karim

They'll play again. ;-) - Chris Baskind

My first thoughts were with Karim. I truly hopes that these brave athletes don't just disappear some night. - Mathew A. Koeneker

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - mersenne

++Steve C - Carlos Ayala

Cee Bee, "by a dictatorial regime.. 'you can just be rendered unemployable in the field of your choice'.." you are so right! Thanks for telling this truth! - Thierry R. Andriamirado

lucky thats all they got... - J. Abdul-Qahhar

these drawings are from people who experienced this when they were young and drew them later on in life - Cee Bee

Reminds me of reading "Black Rain" when I was in college. One of the few books to give me nightmares. - Jennifer Dittrich

Horrifying. - rowlikeagirl

you need to read some of the captions that go with these photos. it's horrible - Cee Bee

Tragic - Shevonne

amazing - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

Wow. :'( - Ayşe E.

Wow. My dad's side (a majority blown up by the A-bomb) never talked about it and I didn't learn about it in school either. This is seriously incredible. Thanks for sharing, Cee. - Mona Nomura

=( - ronin

horrible - Alfredo

Very tragic and sad. - Kamilah Gill

Horrendous. - Chris Lasher

:-( - Jason, Incognito

your wife is a beautiful woman. {{hug}} - pea

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hugs for the both of you. - Yolanda

فرزاد و همسرش - Mil∂d

فرزاد کدومشونه؟ - ‎‎Emad

GROUP HUGGGG!!!!!!! - CAJ, somewhere else

Hugs to everyone... I must say Johnny, you look like you heard something creeping up on you in this photo. Was Georgia being sneaky? - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Hugs, good thoughts, many prayers for you both to find comfort and healing. - Janet

We love you guys. Be well. - Bec Rowe @d0tski

hey guys!!! keep your heads up - (jeff)isageek

Be well and be kind and gentle with yourselves. - vicster is...

xoxo - Derrick

Gorgeous pic! Love ..... - Martha

Be excellent to each other. - Michael R. Bernstein

Aww. Take care! <3 - Rochelle

what a l0v3 <3 - Alp

Cuddling up is just the ticket. You are in my thoughts. - martha

Many hugs and prayers, Johnny. If I could kick God's butt on y'all's behalf, I totally would. - Ladybug Heather

*hugs* - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

*HUGS* - joey

/hug - Kim

*likelikelikelikelikelike* *hugs* - Ayşe E.

Wait, that wasn't enough "like"s. *likelikelikelikelikelikelikelikelikelikelikelikelikelikelikelike* That's better. - Ayşe E.

Soldier through, Worthingtons. Soldier through. - Mike Nayyar

*hugs* - Nia

Full on bear hug, not one of those man to man one arm back pattin' hugs. Full on bear hug. You guys are why #FF and people in general are so great --- er, uh, if that makes any sense to you. It does to me right now. - SAM

Aw, this nearly brought tears to my eyes you guys. I'm sad to hear about your loss. - Patricia

WHOA. - Mona Nomura

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Where's ground? - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

Yeah, the only problem is there is no place to put the ground - Tyler (Chacha)

I'm guessing the flashing motif is there to warn about overloading. Cause I'd be quite worried about that with people trying to fit more than one per side. - alphaxion

HOW IS GROUND LOOP BABBY FORMMED? - Josh Haley

I like the crunchgear points, which are linked from the article. - Andrew C

THAT IS FREAKIN' AWESOME! I need at least twelve of these things! - Dan Messer

この電源コンセント、スゴイっ！／オフィスだと、必ずしも壁に据付のコンセントはつかえない(机の下までタップを引っ張ることが多い)けど、ご家庭ではめっぽう重宝するんじゃないかしら？見栄えも綺麗だし。 - Sakurai.Catshop from fftogo

確かにこれはよさそう。でも、埃が詰まることによるトラッキングも起こりやすそうだなあ…… - 椎出啓

こんなコンセントの発想はなかった。でもでかいACアダプターだとなあ - Stella

super #plug #design:) - K.D.

:-D - Live4Emma (L4S)

Wouldn't be able to have that in Australia because there's no switch. ;) Besides our prongs aren't very parallel. - Andrew Trinh

Now *that* is different! - Julianne

awesome - Susan Beebe

I'm just wondering how you baby proof that thing? - Brent - Loving Life

Ok that's the coolest thing I've seen all week. - Barbara

NICE. Love it. - Jason, Incognito

Hmmm, on second thought I'm not sure how useful this would be. It doesn't handle three-pronged power cables. - Jason, Incognito

Looks incredibly efficient! - Mark Nassal

there's just enough space to stick a sharp metal object into that - Cee Bee

No ground, no three prong capabilities, no legal in US i'm afraid. - Steve C

Possibly the most unsafe socket I have seen in a long time. Form over function? - John Cooper

Plus, a slot design like this can't make use of the gripper 'bumps' in regular sockets. ( http://www.howstuffworks.com/questio... ) This is total design wankery with little to no consideration for the actual use cases IMO... - Andrew C

what about safety? Im sure they could design some sort of cover for it. This is awesome... - Manny

But why would you cover it? The whole design imperative is the exposed slots, right? - Andrew C

@AndrewC, for parents with toddlers. - Jason, Incognito

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