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New Yelp iPhone app is also out. There's a cool easter egg (Augmented Reality feature). Here's how to do it:

August 27, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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Download the new Yelp app (came out yesterday). So you shake your iPhone 3 times. That activates a feature called Monocle. A message should come up if you activated it. A blue box will come up saying "the Monocle has been activated." It will create a button in the top right corner. Now you should be able to look at the bars, restaurants, etc. Only works on iPhone 3GS. - Robert Scoble

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waiting Robert.... :) - Sampad Swain

You point it at businesses, or down the city block. I'll try it right now. - Robert Scoble

Yep! Works. Took a few tries to get it to activate. Some of the places it shows me have been closed for ages though, guess I need to update Yelp for the area. - Otto

That sounds so cool. Would love to see a video demo of it Robert! - Alex Calic

I wonder why it's an easter egg. That sounds great. - Daniel Ha

I just did it. Very cool. I hear this feature was added for me. I really love it! - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Daniel: probably to get it through the iPhone store approval process faster. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Raises the question of whether they would have rejected it if they'd known about it. Or did Yelp tell the reviewers about it? - Jan Dawson

Very, very cool! Just tried it out. There's not a lot on Yelp near by work (kind of an industrial area), but I did get it to find the nearest restaurant. So cool! :-) - Josh Bancroft

awesome! - Marshall Kirkpatrick

as long as Yelp allows iPhone users to rate on the fly.. previously had to sync first (not smart) - Sam Levin

can anyone grab me a screenshot of this? i want to write about it - Marshall Kirkpatrick

I do love beating TechCrunch with news! :-) - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Yes, Mr. Scoble, you beat RWW, TechCrunch, AND Mashable! Damn. - Ben Parr

I can't get it to work... :( - Larry Roth

We need a Yelp for Federal, State and Local government services. - Chris Stevenson

Too bad nobody will ever see it 'cause you mentioned it here and not on your blog ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

I just posted a photo on my friendfeed account. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Installing - Stephen Pickering

You android lovers will see that 'Layer' reality browser does the same as Monocle - Wayne Bentz

Yelp also just launched their Palm Pre app in the Palm app store. No augmented reality that I can find :-( - Ken Sheppardson

Yelp doesn't seem to have much support for Canadian business according to some reviews - Alex Knight

Marshall, I just blogged a screenshot. Will be on www.tinyscreenfuls.com as soon as Posterous gets it there. - Josh Bancroft

Stupid 3GS. You guys think you're so cool. Easter eggs, harumph! *mumble grumble* - Sarah Lane

Yay it works in Canada too! - JP Holecka - Jaypiddy

Nice idea but in my case the locations seem to be about 180 degrees off - i.e. showing behind me instead of in front - but may be down to a fuzzy GPS location or something - will have to keep trying - Jan Dawson

I wonder why it was "secret", ... undocumented API usage or just to create marketing buzz ? - Kooleido

Kooleido: I hear it was added at last minute. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Damn, nothings happening. I've shaked it :( - Stephen Pickering

No iPhone 3G love because no compass? Phooey. :P - Cheryl Jones

Installed It! Works Awesome! Would definitely use it on my next lunch hunt in Downtown - Kooleido

Got it to work--just took a little more shaking...was worried I was going to put my phone through the ceiling! - Larry Roth

Kooleido, how'd you get it to work. I've installed and shaken, but nothings happening - Stephen Pickering

Oh--and very cool - Larry Roth

Stephen shake in long and hard strokes. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

I hate that the iPhone 3G can handle all this new stuff, but Apple insists that you need the 3Gs. Qik on the jailbroken 3G has been awesome! - Elijah Nicolas

@Elijah Nicolas The 3Gs is for the built in compass that is required for augmented reality to work. - JP Holecka - Jaypiddy

lol if it was added for you Robert it would show the cutest girls in the area instead - Sherry Reynolds

Didn't I hear that Apple had an embargo on AR apps til next month? - Brian O'Connell

Very cool, thanks for the info. It appears you have to be logged into Yelp though the app before the monocle option will appear. - Patrick Looney

just posted about it http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... good job finding it first Robert! - Marshall Kirkpatrick

1st sentence typo in your post Marshall ;o) - Alex Calic

Couldn't get it to work by "shaking it" but I got it to work by moving my iPhone up and down 3 times in a vertical motion. Pretty damn cool. - Doug Rice

Marshall, how do you get that camera view? I can't seem to get mine to work. I've shaken and shaken - Stephen Pickering

Well, thats slightly cool. - Sean Oliver

Stephen, you should probably just keep shaking. In publish, with lots of people around. :) No, I don't know. I don't have a 3Gs so I don't have a compass so I don't have the Yelp AR. - Marshall Kirkpatrick

Holy crap. It really works. - David Sharpe

Unreal... landscape and portrait works. - Drew Lucas

Check out our Yelp AR layer inside of Layar Reality Browser ... Android. http://www.GoWeb3D.com - Dave Elchoness

Scoble, I just published on Mashable: http://mashable.com/2009... - Ben Parr

Doh! mashable wins with the most link-baity headline again. - Marshall Kirkpatrick

Putting up a video on Gear Live. - Andru Edwards

we have video too :P - Jennifer Van Grove

@Marshall - We still love you guys, your article's great. :D; @Robert, props. Total props. - Ben Parr

@Robert thanks it's fun http://bsu.gr/4414782 - briansugar

I made a screenshot here: http://www.flickr.com/photos... It takes a few tries to turn on the option though! - Daynah

posted about this on Obsessable and my blog. We'll see if Techmeme grabs it and actually puts this FriendFeed thread first, or if they just ignore it until TechCrunch covers it lolz http://www.obsessable.com/news... & http://www.sampletheweb.com/2009... - C. K. Sample III

ah Marshall got it up first on a notable blog... http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... - C. K. Sample III

I got it to work and man, is it sweet! So smart. - Leslie Fishlock

Shake the darn thing 3 times :)- they say that break dancin was learnt , robbing hubcaps of a movin car in NYC.. so lets so what the new thing will be by the time th iphone has all the motion sickness activiated apps !! - Peter Dawson

just got word of a THIRD app with AR live in iTunes store! http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... I'd say it's official: AR apps have come to the iPhone! - Marshall Kirkpatrick

I already had 2.0.2, but I'm downloading 3.0 now. I'm not thinking it's going to work in my office, but we'll see. - RobinDotNet

Ok, that's really cool. It even works sitting here in my office at home. - RobinDotNet

Downloading now. I am absolutely fascinated by the idea of augmented reality! - Victoria Harres

This is pretty cool but the shake 3 times thing doesn't work too well - Jason Wehmhoener from iPhone

This is fantastic, just activated Monocle. For those having trouble, its best to move/raise and lower the iPhone 3 times vertically instead of just shaking it. I was shaking mine like a madman until I tried the vertical move. - Bryan

[Video] Yelp iPhone Augmented Reality Application http://blip.tv/file/2524950 - Steve Garfield

very cool - I can't believe stuff actually shows up near my house on the bay - sweet :) - Susan Beebe

Damn, guess I'll have to upgrade to the 3GS now. - Damon Cortesi

I am using the app in Indianapolis to find a restauant. As I guessed the augmented reality is cool but not very useful. Other than to help figure out which direction to walk in. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Argh. I wish I had wifi here so I could download it. A trip to Starbucks might be in order. - Ha3rvey #teamMonique

killer in nyc - mike "glemak" dunn from iPhone

dang it - iPhone 3G... - Jodi

iPhone 3G... not in the States... meh - Johnny

It's innovative and that's awesome, but I think this type of interface will be a passing gimmick until more advanced image processing is built into the mobile device. My thoughts on what does matter about it here - http://bit.ly/12wtcY My $0.02. - Alex Hawkinson

shake your iPhone 6 times, that activates GoogleVoice - HansVanRock

Pretty damn cool. Thanks for the heads up - Jim Goldstein from iPhone

I just got this going on my friend's 3Gs. I don't even know what to say. That is freaking incredible! Makes me want a 3Gs *just* for that feature! - Michael Lynton

Just tried this. Awesome! Too bad I'm in a po' dunk town with nothing to do. :) - BRҰANSAҰS

Amazing, how on earth did you find it! It's still 6:00 am, perhaps I'll Yelp for breakfast - Nalin Perera

Wow, I'll have to say this is phenomenal. Wish I'd had this on my trip to D.C. a couple weeks ago. Yelp just made an incredibly useful app even more useful. I've seen a lot of developers working on this technology lately but it looks like they beat everyone to the punch. - Mike Elliott

screen capture of it in action http://twitpic.com/fklr4 - mike "glemak" dunn

I just got the yelp AR to work, and I am staying tonight in a hotel, so I went to my window, and held the camera to the window and it was able to show me reviews of the businesses right across the street from me! I am in love with yelp all over again! - Colide81 (James)

Can't get it to work! Shook long and hard! - UniqNYC aka Jeff from iPhone

This youtube video should help you learn how to get it Islandwoo, I think its in how you shake it, I tryed several ways but after I watched this video I did it like the guy in the video and it worked. http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Colide81 (James)

Yeah, you've got to learn to shake it just right! :-) - Nalin Perera

Roberto Bonini to Roberto's feed, Appetite

Since blogging is either supposed to be dead (see Steve Rubel), or making a comeback (see Scoble), I propose that we add an reply to link at the end of each blog post for us to write a post in reply right there and then.

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I predict a return to blogging as people discover the power of being able to finish a thought - http://fredwilson.vc/post...

June 30, 2009 from Tumblr - Comment - Like - Share

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That's an interesting thought. I've been really distracted lately and keep thinking that I should - leigh himel

I think what we'll see is tool usage evolving for what we need to communicate: because there are far more topics where I have a little to say than where I have a lot to say. And I think micro-blogging can be used to engage people and for quick thoughts and use that to pull audience for longer-form blog posts on those topics where one has more to say. Because if you have a blog that updates infrequently, it's hard to get an audience. So it isn't either/or it's using the right tool at the right time. - In Search of Gender

Robert Scoble to Robert's feed, building43

We need real-time improvements to RSS and other feeds. More on why here:

June 20, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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Dave Winer's latest two posts on his blog are NOT on friendfeed yet. I had to manually link to one of his that's very important. This is something I would like to focus the community members of Building43 on. - Robert Scoble

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There are some alternatives out there, like friendfeed's SUP, but they aren't widely adopted. - Robert Scoble

How can we work together as an industry to make RSS better and faster? I remember Dave Winer used to run a ping server, which kept things pretty quick. Do we need to build another ping server for the industry? - Robert Scoble

almost seems the real time web is going to need two streets, one is memcached and the other isnt :) - sean percival

And, if we are going to build another ping server, how do we build one so it serves everyone equally well? - Robert Scoble

I remember when I first visited Dave Winer at his house. He'd refresh the list of all blogs that were pinging his ping server (it built a list of stuff that's new right now) and he'd visit all those links. Friendfeed reminds me a lot of that except friendfeed is too slow. I hate it when i see people talking about posts before they show up on their main feeds here, like happened with dave's posts today. - Robert Scoble

I wonder what Dave Winer's thoughts are on this topic? - Robert Scoble

I wholeheartedly agree. So often by the time something appears in Google Reader for me its 30 minutes old. RSS Needs to be made more efficient. The second you hit "publish" it should appear in my feed reader. - David Lloyd

RSS is not real-time enough. - David Lloyd

stop been such a cheer leader for friendfeed, yes we get it it's cool, but unless u r looking for some stocks from their, stop it dude... u r making of this a religion, ur view of 2010 is just a naive view of the future of the internet, there is more to be done. Yes more people around the world needs to embrase it, but there is more to just a twitter accound, a facebook or a a friendfeed place. - Gilbert Corrales

Gilbert: OK, look at Facebook then. It has the exact same problem. - Robert Scoble

gilbert FF is more than cool, it's the prototype for how many will share and interact in the near future. - sean percival

And Gilbert if you like your news "aged" then go back to reading newspaper. Everything there is guaranteed to be at least eight hours old by the time you get it. - Robert Scoble

Isn't this purely because RSS is modeled after a subscription pattern? "I have this available here you can subscribe. When I make an update I'll post it here and you have to come check if there is new stuff" - Nicholas Orr

Naa Robert is right no matter how you look at it. Remember when you got your first 1mb internet how fast it seemed compared to dialup? It's time RSS was brought into the broadband era of being instant. There has to be a way of doing it. - David Lloyd

Nicholas: right. If I update my RSS feed it can be hours or even days before various spiders come and visit it. Some pages are visited more often, but usually only because they are updated more often. In Dave's blog's case the spiders aren't visiting very often and even if they were they wouldn't be real time like my photos (OurDoings.com uses SUP to let friendfeed know it has something new to come and grab -- that works awesomely fast). - Robert Scoble

Scoble: I am not talking about aged... I am talking that there is way more we can do than freendfeed... u can reach 40.000 in a single message, but is that it? how many people is in FF and how many in FB? how may come to ur blog from some other reason?... my current research focus on the semantic web, and how many people is after thatn?... yeh the NYT is startin to embrase that's nothing - Gilbert Corrales

Gilbert: I'm talking about speed, not audience size. Don't know why you are on the attack here or what point you are trying to make. Facebook has the exact same problem friendfeed does. - Robert Scoble

Gilbert: and so does Google Reader and other feed readers. They are too slow to have a decent conversation. - Robert Scoble

Robert I don't want to speak out of turn but David Winer will be furious at this thread. It is perhaps the most important technical thread in a long while on friendfeed though in my opinion. - David Lloyd

its posible do a temporizer for rss...Im working in this...the race begins... - Ferdy

Only someone with a huge audience like you could have started this discussion and debate. - David Lloyd

Mark: I don't agree that Dave will be furious. I think he should be furious that his content is not being seen WHEN he's writing it. - Robert Scoble

I agree, I have the same problem. How do we get faster RSS? It is a problem for real time. - Eric - seven eleven

Scoble: we need more than just this or fb (sorry if I am in attack mode.) but we need a bigger, radical chance... web 2010 is more than just this, it's about reaching where we haven't reach... 3rd worlds are on the rise, and we need some basic ground, and to be honest I dont think FF is - Gilbert Corrales

Sorry to turn the conversation non-serious here but I am much more interested in precogs - I would like to know the news before it happens...real time is just too stale...haha :) - Mike Bracco

Mark: that is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. You could have started it. THe second I click "like" on your item it goes to all my readers. - Robert Scoble

oh cool, so when you like something it syndicates across all your followers in their feeds? - David Lloyd

http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... ah there - David Lloyd

Gilbert: we're arguing about RSS here. Not friendfeed. Take the friendfeed stuff to a different thread. Mark: that's EXACTLY how friendfeed works. Yes. - Robert Scoble

I think that Google Wave might be the first thing that approaches the kind of speed you are talking about - Chris Johnston

Chris: I can't wait to get Google Wave. So far I haven't gotten it because I didn't go to the Google I/O conference. But if Google Wave relies on RSS/Atom feeds it, too, will be too slow. - Robert Scoble

Yes real time is cool. - Randy Allen Bishop

Robert: Hmmm well the only reason OurDoings can update your FriendFeed is because you have a FriendFeed account... What if Dave Winer doesn't want a FriendFeed account. So now I'm thinking isn't this what those Blog aggregaters are used for? You don't need an account if you do create an account then you can claim your blog etc. Seems like SUP needs to be added to theses Blog aggregators and in turn WordPress/Drupal/Blogger others support that. - Nicholas Orr

Well the google wave demo's were instant, as in, milliseconds, content was pushed from computer a to b instantly. - David Lloyd

I want to know about what everyone writes THE SECOND they hit post. Dave's feed at http://friendfeed.com/davew still doesn't have his latest two blog posts. - Robert Scoble

Google Wave relies on bots that can do whatever they want... (umm within the confines of permissions, waves. Its not a broadcasting platform, you have to be involved in the conversation) - Nicholas Orr

it is not RSS that is the problem - it is the 'concept' syndication doesnt work - real-time filtering based upon the social graph is the future - twitter/FF etc are just one step along a path - Nick Halstead

Please retweet this thread link on your twitters, might be a good way to get some more people over here on FF x - David Lloyd

Nicholas: no, the reason OurDoings works so fast is because it doesn't use RSS. It uses, instead, SUP which comes into friendfeed nearly instantly. The problem is that very few web sites and services use SUP, most rely on RSS. So, I guess one answer is to spend years evangelizing SUP. I'd rather see some other "upgrade" of what RSS does, so that the whole system gets real time without a bunch of years wasted evangelizing yet another protocol. - Robert Scoble

Scoble: problem is (as I see it) is that as far as I've seen everything for u gets solve in FF, yes it's a step up from RSS, but how many orgs can have a Scoble here? we need something that allows for conversation but also allows for growing and for commerce (like the ones u r targeting for) no everyone is up for this change... but an incremental change - Gilbert Corrales

Robert: yeah I get that SUP is what does it quick. However you have to have an account. RSS requires no account. If you know about RSS address you can look at the content. - Nicholas Orr

Nicholas: good point. Which is why people far smarter than me need to explain to me how RSS will get real time features. - Robert Scoble

Sorry but SUP is just a bodge on top of RSS - it was designed to allow FF more efficient access to when things update. SUP is has not got a future in making the web real-time end of story - Nick Halstead

Wallace: Google Reader's spiders hit certain pages very often because they know they are getting updated very often. Google, for instance, is indexing friendfeed every few minutes, if not faster. But it doesn't treat EVERY web page/web site that way. - Robert Scoble

are you a developer Nick? you sound like you know what you are talking about with all the jargon - David Lloyd

Nick: since you build real time systems I would love to know your ideas of how RSS will become more real time. - Robert Scoble

Mark: Nick Halstead is the guy behind TweetMeme. - Robert Scoble

how deliciously exciting! - David Lloyd

Robert: Doesn't FriendFeed / Twitter make RSS less relevant today? - Jim Connolly

RSS IS everywhere Jim, is what Dave said, its liek HTTP or FTP it will always be there - David Lloyd

the work twitter is doing on HTTP streams is much more interesting to me, this is about large volume filtered content being delivered out to multiple destinations. - Nick Halstead

Jim: no. A lot of what is imported here is RSS. - Robert Scoble

Jim Connolly: Yes, I think it is. - PWR

@Robert - it is split into two parts - how content is delivered to users - Like 'long polling' which FF uses (and we do as well) - and then how big systems transfer real-time data - and that is what twitter is doing with HTTP Filtered Streams - Nick Halstead

Quite simple -- they should support the weblogs.com ping protocol. It's brain-dead simple. If they don't like XML-RPC they can use the REST version. Then FF would immediately be compatible with every blogging platform out there. I've been saying this for over a year, but they either don't listen or they do and they don't want to do it. THey've never responded. So your issue is with them. It's easy for FF to get on the bus. Set up a ping server and you're done. - Dave Winer

@Robert I see Google / Others all starting to consume these new streams (It cant just rely on just polling websites every hour/day anymore) - Nick Halstead

@Dave that is never going to work on scale - if it was going to work it would have been done, the next step is to allow consuming of real-time streams - I dont care what format the stream is in but we cant go back to thinking polling techniques can give us even a sense of real-time - Nick Halstead

Nick Halstead is the gaffer behind the sublime http://tweetmeme.com/, Dave x - David Lloyd

At the moment if you click 'retweet' on one of our retweet buttons (when your logged in) it takes 5-6 seconds to get from TweetMeme -> Twitter -> FriendFeed ... that sounds impressive, but it 'should' be instant - Nick Halstead

so who pays to have servers turned on with n people connected to it ready to recieve content via push? Isn't that what this is coming down to? You have the content creator and the content cosumer, then in the middle is the content pusher - I don't see content creators or content consumers paying content pusher... - Nicholas Orr

Robert & Mark: My bad - I forgot that RSS is how we pull everything together on FF. I was thinking exclusively regarding FF and Twitter as a source of new, fresh material. Thanks for the heads up guys! - Jim Connolly

@Nicholas - the joy of the new technologies is that having open connections is actually more efficient than delivering separate requests ever 30 seconds (i.e. AJAX polling) - Nick Halstead

Here I manage 20 platforms with RSS, can i see which is more fast to receive data...http://www.fdeflash.com/fpanel... - Ferdy

Scoble, also when you talk to your friends at FF, ask them to support OPML import and export. I think you should go on strike until they do that. It's about the most user-unfriendly thing they could do. It's been too long for it to be a matter of resources. They're building a roach motel here. I wouldn't add any more value here until they add a way out. - Dave Winer

www.getpingd.com is an attempt to solve this problem by adding a real-time, peer-2-peer ping ontop of RSS - Chris Saad

@Nick - yeah content pusher was what I made up for your open connection - where do you get an open connection from? Isn't RSS an open connection? FriendFeed works well for us because we have accounts. Say someone creates a new blog, that isn't going to go anywhere until that person creates a Twitter account and FriendFeed account and connects the blog - then it will be plugged into the... more... - Nicholas Orr

@Nicholas a range of technologies exist now to deliver data delivery that relies upon an open connection such as 'comet' http://cometdaily.com/ - FF uses it - it requires very different server architectures so it is taking time for developers to move onto it - Nick Halstead

Gnip is an attempt to do this with a Central Service - but it doesn't need to be central - it should be distributed - again - refer to getpingd.com :) - Chris Saad

Chris, you think all this hasn't been beaten to death ad nauseum? We're coming up on the 10th anniversary of weblogs.com. All the would-be reinventers have given up. Over and over. You guys should have reunions! :-) - Dave Winer

Scoble, if you can hear me -- try following this account. http://friendfeed.com/friends... You'll get all my updates within five minutes. And a bunch of others you probably are missing too. :-) - Dave Winer

anyone know how to get realtime twitter mentions on friendfeed? - Tyler Gillies

Question: what runs IM technology (IRC)? Could this be a solution applied to RSS. Obviously, I'm not a developer just thinking out loud. - Jason Cronkhite

xmpp is the best PUSH IM technology IMHO - Tyler Gillies

"There are some alternatives out there, like friendfeed's SUP, but they aren't widely adopted. - Robert Scoble" - YouTube just recently announced SUP support: http://apiblog.youtube.com/2009... - Benjamin Golub

whatS UP? - Tyler Gillies

SUP FAQ: http://code.google.com/p... - PWR

It looks like Rob is AFk - probably gone to a party or something ;) - David Lloyd

you calling me a FAQ? - Tyler Gillies

wordpress SUP plugin http://neothoughts.com/2008... - Tyler Gillies

typically appears on friendfeed within 10 seconds [so the site says] - Tyler Gillies

Yeah - SUP does this. I use it on my site, and Youtube is starting to use it as well. Google just encouraged developers to begin taking advantage of it. - Jesse Stay

There is absolute proof that people want to interact in real-time. It's called Google Wave. Google and Facebook have been making a habit of using FF as a test environment for new features (comments, likes, sharing, grouping, etc). Real-time is just the next 'wave' Google will be stealing. - Scott Magdalein

Google's Wave is also a solution. I have a test account and I can see it becoming a real-time replacement for blogging. - Jesse Stay

Robert, BTW, if you ever want to play with it, I can give you access to my test account to play with. - Jesse Stay

Justt add a Google Reader layer to Google Wave, problem solved. Did you try it? - Charbax

@charbax - not really, the problem is that Google Reader (wave or not) still takes forever. it's not a layer issue, it's a paradigm issue. - Scott Magdalein

I went through this a few years back. Including the 'ping server' concept where my server would ping the ping server with new content. The ping server would then ping all subscribers. The subscribers would then request the new RSS. Then I realised: That's basically what XMPP is for. We just need an extension to XMPP that is for RSS style syndication. Other XMPP clients subscribe to my... more... - RickMeasham

@Jesse: You've got to be in the conversation though. I guess a group could be created "everybody@onthe.net" and we could all opt into that group. Then all we have to do is add the group and bam instant global broadcast :) (Google Wave) - Nicholas Orr

Funny, was reading the Observer pattern section yesterday in the Gang of Four's seminal book on Design Patterns. It made me think I should blog about how RSS needs to implement aspects of it & just generally improve to handle realtime. Why not have the protocol allow for items to be pinged that are > guid X. (caveat, not sure if any of this has been spec'd out, haven't come across it... more... - Joe Devon

Why not just build all the good features from RSS and other feed systems in to Google wave - Michael Mooney

do you think google wave will kill friendfeed? - Tyler Gillies

friend feed should be one of the first Wave providers with it's own look and feel but still 100% compatible.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Michael Mooney

Google wave will certainly not kill FF. It will increase FF's relevance. The two services are totally different. - Scott Magdalein

Scott why do The two services need to be totally different - Michael Mooney

Wave is something that social media services will adopt. It will certainly not kill them. Michael, why are they different? For the same reason that FriendFeed and email are different. They just aren't the same at all. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Remember Friend Feed, Facebook, Twitter, IM & E-mail are basically tools for communicating. so why do they need to be need to be totally different? - Michael Mooney

They don't need to be, they just are. It's like asking why apples need to be different from oranges. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

They don't NEED to be different. They ARE different by their nature and purpose. Even though Wave is moving messaging to a more collaborative environment, it's still not an OPEN environment. That's where FF steps in. It's an ongoing, open conversation in real-time. - Scott Magdalein from email

As I said, it is likely that services like Facebook and friendFeed adopt the wave standard (not necessarily google's products though) as their new means of communication. I will also suggest that I will likely use most heavily, any social media service that uses waves for communications. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

People can be free use the Friend Feed wave or Facebook wave or Google wave or CNN wave each optimized for their communitys - Michael Mooney

If static non-interactive web & e-mail are seen as Web 1.0, social services & IM as Web 2.0, so Wave Providers maybe be seen as Web 3.0 - Michael Mooney

Nicholas, exactly. One would just need to subscribe, and the blog would broadcast on each post out to that wave group. Real-time. You could even incorporate comments via that means, real-time. - Jesse Stay

Jesse, that's exactly the problem. Broadcast media isn't real-time when you try to also incorporate conversations around it. That's why FF isn't a broadcast medium, it's a conversation medium. Google Wave will still be far too fragmented to hold OPEN conversations. - Scott Magdalein from email

Nicholas Orr said, "well the only reason OurDoings can update your FriendFeed is because you have a FriendFeed account". Actually, any aggregator can get the same real-time results as FriendFeed. You could build your own competitor to FriendFeed and use SUP the exact same way FriendFeed does without asking my permission. Ping services don't allow that. - Bruce Lewis

Hope all the social media service R&D teams are brainstorming on how to improve the web in events like Iran - Michael Mooney

Superfeedr - realtime via xmpp & pubsubhubub http://blog.superfeedr.com/gospel... - Capn' One Eye - adrift

Bruce Lewis - The point I was making was there needs to be an aggregate/hub for the information to flow too, otherwise people will need to visit lots of places. You can't have your content show up on FriendFeed unless you have an account :) People who start a blog right now aren't auto plugged into anything and have to plug themselves in. In order to have real time of the entire web I... more... - Nicholas Orr

FrameChannel doesn't have a FriendFeed account as far as I know, but I created a group and added one of their blogs to it. So I'd amend what you said to, you either need an account on the aggregator, or a user on the aggregator who's interested in following your blog. I think that's reasonable. - Bruce Lewis

Wow, what a FF thread, and they say RSS is dead. This to me is simply a push vs pull debate. Granted RSS (the spec) is dated but RSS is highly used and useful. I believe RSS needs to evolve more like XMPP with Distributed hash tables like P2P networks. Allow RSS feeds to know how many active connections there are that it needs to send real time (which seeders such as GReader could... more... - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

Peter is exactly right, RSS/Atom is a "virtual" publish and subscribe pattern. For it to be a real publish and subscribe pattern it will need to 1) know and keep track of who/what has subscribed and 2) send out the new/updated content to all current subscribers at the time of publishing. XMPP probably points the way most clearly to date. - Barry Baker

XMPP pubsub http://xmpp.org/extensi... Webhooks http://blog.webhooks.org PubSubHub http://code.google.com/p... - Ken Sheppardson

If you had a Wave and had people join it, like following you on Twitter or subscribing on Friendfeed, you would then get the equivalent of those services but in real time and with playback. - Chris Johnston

Indeed, hopefully PubSubHubbub will solve this. It can turn all of the web's feeds into push. http://pubsubhubbub.googlecode.com - Brett Slatkin

Robert Scoble

What are the top 10 apps I should load on the new iPhone 3GS? I started out clean. More here, please tell me what you suggest here:

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I've already loaded Facebook, Google, Evernote, and TweetDeck. Which apps are MUST HAVES. Only suggest apps you actually often use. I filled up my old iPhone with too many apps I never used. - Robert Scoble

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Things. Best task manager I've ever used. I use it so often that I moved it to the bar along the bottom. - Akiva

Kevin: I'm not a big gamer, but would like to try out a couple. - Robert Scoble

Try the AP mobile news app to try out push notifications. - George Deane

Robert, you might also consider Blocked. It's a quick-play, no-impact puzzle game. - Akiva

when will we have a friend feed app, i like camerabag - Eran Even-Kesef

If you ever come to the UK, the National Rail Enquiries app is awesome. Can't live with out it now. - Roberto Bonini

I got Tuner so I could listen to Leo on the go. ;) Also just installed HeyWAY, might be interesting for you. Games: How about Star Defense? - Holger Eilhard

Try Snap2Twitter for tweeting photos - they just updated with geotagging...will compliment the new autofocus feature! - Tom Parnell

Peggle, without question. Best game on the iPhone. - Josh Bancroft

Remote - for controlling music through my home stereo system - joeszabo

I know you upload to Flickr... Try Flickit. You can upload your iPhone 3G S images with ease. - Jason Hansen

You definitely need the Read It Later app, extremely useful - Antonio Montero

Check out Numbrosia, an original and addictive number puzzle. (Yes, I developed it.) - Amir Michail

Instapaper. Great for those times when you don't have any internet. Also, Stanza for ebooks and Shazam to find out what a song you're currently hearing is. - Leon Freyermuth

Definitely want to see a Friendfeed App - Keven Elliff

I'd say Tweetie over TweetDeck. TweetDeck is still kind of crashtastic. Still waiting for my iPhone 3G S to be delivered! Analytics app, WordPress app, FlickIt (for sending full res pictures to flickr), Pandora, Kindle for iPhone, Scrabble (connects to Facebook FTW), Evernote, Peggle, Skype, Shazam - C. K. Sample III

I would think Pandora, but that's just me - Spirit 2.0

Keven: I second that, although MotherFeed isn't too bad. - John Fox

BeeJive IM is one I can't live without. Also Skype, Sonic, Flight Control and Last.Fm - Jono Russell

TweetDeck, Pandora, Dictionary, FStream (I use it to listen to live.twit.tv when I'm away from my computer) and Colloquy (IRC client). - Antoniu

if you like to be in the photo - check out fototimer - I have used it quite a few times - Eduardo Merille

BeejiveIM and Stanza/Kindle are my two most used ones you haven't already added. - Antonio Zahra

You should get Twitterrific, AP Mobile, Flixster, What's On, Pandora, Dictionaire, Instapaper, TWC, Asphalt 4, and Shakespeare. - Alexander

Evernote, Instapaper, Tweetie, Facebook, Last.fm, RTM, Satchel, Beejive IM and some games or something. - Brett Kelly

it would be nice if someone took this whole list and did a review of the actual top 10 3.0 apps. - Amir

Def prefer Twittelator Pro for tweeting. Pano is pretty cool for panoramic photo stitching in-camera. Pandora is a keeper. Free Memory or iStat could be crucial for killing runaway bg processes. HoldEm is the only game I end up returning to. Good advice on overloading. Better to overload with podcasts and tunes! - Laura Scott (@lauras)

I'll cast more votes for Things and FlickIt - both superb. 1Password is great for digital wallet / password manager purposes, although, like Things no Windows client - you need to be happy with Mac and iPhone. Animoto is a great app for knocking together slide shows really quickly. Autostitch is nice for stitching together several photos for a panoramic effect. If you ever do voice... more... - Patrick Jordan

Pandora, Shazam, Boombox, Flashlight, TWiT.am, LaTwit, craigsphone, Units, Carpenter, & NYTimes -- I also have homescreen bookmarks for Wolfram|Alpha, FriendFeed, Wunderground, & GMail - Chris Heath

Kevin, there are several already. I've been playing around with amigo lately. - Akiva

Things, reQall, Weightbot, GroceryGadget, Photogene, iFlashReady, SpeedTest - Ronald Barnett

Shazam - it listens to a song playing and identifies it for you. Use it surprisingly often when listening to the radio or in a business when music is playing. Very accurate. The majority of apps on my iPhone I never use... - Steve de Mena

the only one I didn't see mention on this that I use all the time is I.TV - Kim Landwehr

TweetDeck for the iPhone is NOT the best tweeting application. It uses up too much API, although I would still have it on my iPhone just to look at every now and then. Twitterrific is definitely the 5-star app ever since it realized its 2.0 version. TweetDeck is only a 3.5 to 4 star app in my mind. - Alexander

That vibrator one that was posted on FF yesterday somewhere. - SteVe C

1Password. I can't live without it on my Mac and my iPhone. Tweetie, Pandora, Fieldrunners (still love this game), GV Mobile for Google Voice. Many more above are great as well. - Kelly Sims

SportsTap. I'm not a huge sports fan, but the ability to set favorite teams and get real time updates is great. Hopefully they'll put out a new version for 3.0 with push notifications. - Carlton Prest

BuddyFeed, Tweetie, Skype, AccuWeather, AirSharing - Susan Beebe

Photogene -- very cool photo editing application - RobinDotNet

Here's one that is a must for you: PangeaVR: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Orli Yakuel

i.TV for sure :) - Justin Whittaker

Try out Gokivo - the first TBT navigation app for the iPhone. We are excited to finally be able to launch our app on the iPhone. - Mark Goddard from BuddyFeed

I think I might have too much time - here is a count of the apps mentioned so far:Pandora 9 Evernote 7 TweetDeck 6 Stanza 4 Tweetie 4 Shazam 4 Facebook 4 BeeJive IM 3 Skype 3 Flickit 3 Things 3 Flight Control 3 Instapaper 3 Kindle 3 NYTimes 2 Peggle 2 AP Mobile 2 I.TV 2 Photogene 2 Twitterific 2 1Password 2 Last.fm 2 TWiT.am 1 Shakespeare 1 Peggle 1 AirSharing 1 Star Defense 1 Eye-Fi 1... more... - Ryan Barnett

TWC is The Weather Channel, so there have actually been 2 TWC recommendations - Alexander

New to iphone but was a Touch user for a long time - I have many of these apps already - some new ones to check out now also. I just restored from my ipod Touch backup and all my existing apps came over. They seem to be working OK. Question - is it possible to rename my iphone as it now says it is my ipod Touch? - Tony Vota

Yes, you just right-click on the name of the iPod on the right-hand side in iTunes and select rename. - Leon Freyermuth

Trailguru, Sportacular, Livestrong, Foursquare all make my front page - Ryan Barnett

SnapTell, 9-toolbox, Flixster - Chad McCoskey

@leonf - Got it. Thanks. It was actually a double left click to select and rename. - Tony Vota

I'd swear by Remember The Milk as a task manager. Outside the built in apps, this is my most reliable and useful app, and there's an imminent update that I'm hoping will include push notifications. Other than that, my most oft used are Beejive IM, Kindle, Byline (for Google Reader syncing), Strands, Facebook and TweetDeck. And I'm posting this through a new FriendFeed app: AlertThingy which seems pretty awesome. - Owen from Alert Thingy

Must have for me is : Camera bag(Must have), Facebook, Tweetie and/or Tweetdeck(Not too stable), BeeJive IM, Shazam, Evernote, Airsharing, Urbanspoon, Remote for Keynote, Google Reader Web and GTalk Web. - Yan PHUN

Must try HeyWAY... Cool app - Mike Diaz

Oh yeah, and Documents to Go (Exchange edition) is proving very useful, just needs xls editing and MobileMe iDisk access. - Owen from Alert Thingy

@techsavvyguru - No problem. I just thought the right-click and select rename method was easier to explain. That does work, doesn't it? I haven't tried it in awhile. - Leon Freyermuth

Great question, tons of valuable answers here.. very nice :) - Susan Beebe

Evernote, tweetie, facebook, motherfeed, camerabag and camerakit - Thomas Chai

RssPlayer is my most used app. - Christian Burns

Why Jared, of course! - Daniel Krech

another vote for Weather Channel and the radar videos. Also Bloomberg for stocks and Checkbook for jotting down expenses to be entered into Quicken later. - Sarah Miller

Agree you need to add Skype, BeeJive, and Pandora. I also like Todo and NYTimes. Just getting my head wrapped around TweetDeck for iPhone; been using Tweetie up to now. - Scotty Perkins

I'm setting mine up right now. I can't believe how well it works here! Thanks for asking this question here. This is my first iPhone, so I need all the advice I can get. I love this phone! - Michael Fidler

iFart, iBeer and the iphone star wars sword. The most popular iphone apps. - Charbax

I can't believe no one mentioned Yelp. I use it all the time, especially here in the bay area where you live. - Sam Pullara

surprised no one mentioned truphone - skype and push notification support - Riaz Kanani

'Things' is a daily go-to workhorse of an application, One of the best values in the app store. - Dean Kakridas

Remember the Milk, Bloomberg, Evernote, PCalc, Amazon, the Wearher Channel - Robert Hafer

appsniper - Jay Clark

I know this is lame: but I am addicted to the "Blowfish" game we downloaded for our kids. Trust me - it's very addicting. Weather Channel best weather app IMHO. Shazam. BuddyFeed. LinkedIn. Skype. - Curt Mercadante

Reisertris! - Vezquex

More votes for Photogene, Bloomberg and Weather Channel. ShoZu. USA Today. Is Urban Spoon a must? Not sure, but it came in handy when I was traveling. - MiniMage

Evernote, Red Delicious,Skype, Google Voice Search, FaceBook,Yelp, BrightKite, Domain Tool, iSSH, and FTPOnTheGo are a few good ones to start with. - Mike Elliott

FLASHLIGHT - Rochelle

I would but I ask you about a month ago in email what camera should I take on my bike you never answered back. But here are some ideas good mapping gps, google search, evernote. Now how about a camera pick please. - Darren Lowery

thirsty pocket, Tweetdeck, phoneflix, shazm,skype,facebook,google mobile,mint,yelp and iwant - Sai

Kindle, Shazam, trade Tweetdeck for Tweetie, FB, PageOnce for your bank accounts, Evernote, Google, and Wordpress. What's amazing about your list is that there's a lot of overlap among all the omments above considering how many iPhone apps exist. Very Few rise above the noise. - Francine Hardaway

You need BeejiveIM and TweetDeck, that is all. - David Ford

WeatherBug Elite, BBCReader, NYTimes, WSJ, Bloomberg - Bob Morris (polizeros)

Nambu for all things Twitter. Password. Google. Conversion. Linked In. NetNewsWire. iFirstAid. Flashlight. Wordpress. Currency. Dictionary. Level. A good, local weather application. - Greg Smith @ PR Lab

iSnort http://www.youtube.com/watch... - A. T.

For the Twitter power user, Twittelator Pro 3.0 - Louis Trapani

Smugshot - Tony Fluharty

BuddyFeed is the best FriendFeed app I've found, and I'd go for either Twitterific or Tweetie over TweetDeck. Instapaper is vital, and either OmniFocus or Things depending on which you prefer on the desktop. If you're not a desktop app person for to dos, then RememberTheMilk is great. - Ian Betteridge

compass, skype, bubbles, Google Earth & document viewer. - Robert MacEwan

For video uploads direct from the 3G S to over 40 services you should give the new Pixelpipe 1.4.1 version a shot. Details at http://tr.im/p7vT - Brett Butterfield

LOL. Now you're going to have a ton of Apps you never use! - Dane Deasy

I like the one that puts mullet hair cuts on friends head shots. - Christine Taylor

Robert - have you tried ALL of the above suggestions yet? If so, please report back with findings. :) - Patrick Jordan

Waiting for push notification support for IM apps. - Ashish

Robert - For news headlines with awesome photography - Thomson Reuters New Pro. Great for catching up whilst on the move. Keyword customisable. - Tom Ablewhite

get pandorabox best app - Blake Mathews

Public Radio, Pandora,Classics, Twitteriffic... tho I honestly haven't checked out any other Twitter Apps. - Orville Chomer

Thanks for great list of recommendations. :) - Daniel Schildt

2010 best indoor navigation without GPS unbelievably is FastMall - http://www.FastMall.com - Jennifer Jolie

Robert Scoble

Any cool Barcode Apps for iPhone? - http://ourdoings.com/roberts...

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I can see where the new macro focusing feature will come in useful. This is the barcode on the front of USA Today. Gotta find some cool new apps. - Robert Scoble

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Techcrunch posted this. I wish all these cool goodies were available on Winmo devices! Occipital Brings Seamless Barcode Scanning To The iPhone With RedLaser http://tcrn.ch/4FU by @erickschonfeld - Perry Espardinez

I saw one earlier that takes advange of the new focus. Think it was called red laser? Don't hold me to that, can't check at the moment. - Simon Wicks

The autofocus will help explode QR codes in the US. Other phones have had autofocus and barcode readers but never took off. iPhone makes the experience worth it. - Luis

Redlaser only has 2/5 stars in iTunes. - Stephen Heron

Redlaser. I'd imagine there will be lots very soon. I'd say delicious library will be next! - Tom Tubbs

An app that uses http://en.barcodepedia.com/ would be very cool - Phil Leggetter

But lets make sure this isn't limited to just finding the cheapest price/customer reviews. How about a look-up for the environmental impact of manufacturing the product? Employee-rights rating of the factory where the item was produced? How far is it from the factory to your current location? - David Sky

TechCrunch just wrote up this RedLaser app http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - C. K. Sample III

They just lowered the price to $0.99 on this app b/c of the TechCrunch press... - C. K. Sample III

Robert Scoble to Robert's feed, building43

We’re shipping today: the road to Building43. Please come and join us during launch party today. - http://scobleizer.com/2009...

June 11, 2009 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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We'll be launching Building43 from TechCrunch's headquarters today. We can't fit more people in, but we'll have live video streaming starting at about 4 p.m. Pacific Time today at http://www.kyte.tv/scobleizer -- lots of special guests. - Robert Scoble from Bookmarklet

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Site goes like at 4pm PT? - Jason Miller

Friendfeed plays a huge part in the site, by the way (thanks to Paul Buchheit for all of his help over the weekend). Jason: I think we are actually launching it at 5 p.m. - Robert Scoble

very cool! can't wait - andy brudtkuhl

^^ yo very (!) interested in how 'things work' for you today - wish you all the best!! :) - Ronald

Good luck today, I hope everything goes well. Sorry I couldn't make the party! - Buzz Bruggeman

Buzz and others, thanks! Make sure you join the Building43 room here. http://www.friendfeed.com/buildin... -- you'll get on the home page if you post there. - Robert Scoble

we'll always support you and love ya rob x - David Lloyd

Congrats. Just commented on the blog post. I think it's a great movement and I'm looking forward to contributing to it if I can! - Alexander van Elsas

Can't wait! Here's a good intro video on all this from a local news station who got to interview Robert this week in Blacksburg, VA -- http://www.wdbj7.com/Global... - Cameron

^^ yeppers, pretty nice intro video, already seen :) :) - I WANT MORE, please :)))) - Ronald

good luck today, can't wait to read (and see video) of more from B43 - erik yuzwa

Well done Robert & Rob L!!! Very excited for all that you guys are doing. Sooooo much potential and ground breaking & practical stuff that is being offered. - Lyn Graft

Scoble on my question how does Building43 make money: @vedi: we're a cost center right now. I have been on Twitter for more than 900 days and they haven't figured out how to monetize so you gotta give me 900 days to figure it out too. :-) - Vedran Rudelj

The Scobleizer.com feed to Google Reader is very slow these days. I always find your posts here first. - Louis Gray

Congrats Robert, looking forward... - Nir Ben Yona

Louis: that's on purpose. I manually refresh my feed here on friendfeed manually as soon as I post. Why? Because the real time web is important. Google Reader seems old, I find I don't like visiting it anymore. - Robert Scoble

I consume GReader via Feedly now - if I dont see it on FF first - andy brudtkuhl

andy: yeah, feedly is doing weird things, though. It keeps posting stuff to Twitter and I can't figure out why or how. Plus I just am addicted to friendfeed. - Robert Scoble

eeewww. Just noticed 4 p.m. Pacific Time, is actually 2 a.m my time. Can't we make it 2 hours earlier, LOL. - Nir Ben Yona

That's true, but getting your post in Google Reader helps me share it. - Louis Gray

Can't wait! You guys are doing some great things---look forward to seeing it! Want to share what we're doing with http://www.jailbreakomaha.com - Jeff Slobotski

Congratulation Robert, already have a reminder for 7 PM EST tonight to watching the streaming, wish I could be there. - Kim Landwehr

1st off Thank You Robert Scoble you helped me stay ahead of the curve over the years in what's in the technology pipeline. I am really interested in you latest project because I am that small business that would like to have the 2010 website but have yet to get it past say around 1999 level website. looking forward to the future... - Jim Beall

Excited! I think this idea is really cool and I'm ready to see some more great interviews and demos similar to what you've been doing in the past. I'll be watching the launch. Good luck! - Brandon Titus

I know I for one will be *extremely* excited to see this puppy launch :) - Michelle McGinnis

Congratulation to all the Rackers involved and especially to you, Robert!!! I am sooo looking forward and i am already a big fan! - Arne Krueger

Robert - YAY, CONGRATS!! woo hoooooo! - Susan Beebe

Susan, save your applause for when we ship it. You might not like it! - Robert Scoble

Good luck Robert - Charlie Anzman

Congradulations Robert. Keep doing the great work. I'll be watching.... - Alex Marrow

rockmanusa needs a new website - David Lloyd

Sounds cool and fun. Looking forward to your launch. - Michael Williams

Getting closer... very excited for you guys! :) I love Go Live Launchs !!!! - Susan Beebe

Congrats Robert to you and Rocky! So if i come by the TechCrunch offices without an RSVP can't I just say I'm heard about it on FriendFeed? :) - Elliott Ng

Ditto what Matthew said... WTF, where's my building? - Arleen Boyd

Website is Live :) - Nir Ben Yona

http://www.friendfeed.com/buildin... - Robert Scoble

So is Chrome your default browser? - Mats

Nice Job Robert ! Looking forward to hooking up with you in the near future to pursue some paradigm-shifting applications for B23 and RS... - Mike Schmidt

Congrats, Robert! - Bret Taylor

Congratulations on the launch, looks great! - Raj Advani

Congratulations! Looking forward to learning from this site! - Entreprini

Congratulations! (Now you can sleep!) - Kay Designer

Congratulations! Even though the sites new, it still looks great. I can’t wait to see where you go from here. BTW. I loved the way Loic took over the show at the TechCrunch party. lol - Michael Fidler

Reading and commenting on this from the Building43 site. Cool. - Hutch Carpenter

Got a bunch of stuff to do for a huge Friday ahead, but am very excited about guiding our startup alongside the Bldg43 community - starting out with no bad habits and no pre-conceived notions except embracing the new and the best frees us. Looking forward to learning, teaching and sharing. Keep up the great work! - Matt Weeks

congrats!! - Patricia

Congratulations, Robert! Can't imagine amount of work you did for site launch. Interview with Zuckerberg was really great. - denis

Congrats on the launch, Robert. - George Hall (Australia)

Congrats Robert, the site is looking good. I'm gonna spent the next two hours watching those video interviews. - Diego Sana

Just took the the feed with Google reader. Interesting Concept. - Brent - Yes I am

"All building43 content is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution - Noncommercial " ~ nice touch. - Peter Renshaw

I spotted a Rackspace logo and put together some other impressions here: http://www.sampletheweb.com/2009... still trying to wrap my head around it all though. Good luck with it! - C. K. Sample III

Robert Scoble

My answer to Jeremy Toeman, where he discusses ROI of various social networking services:

May 23, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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Jeremy Toeman said he was getting more ROI out of IM and a variety of other social networking services than friendfeed. Here's his post: http://friendfeed.com/bigtoe... - Robert Scoble

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So, where's the ROI? Well, for one, IM has high interactivity, but low reusability. Same with Twitter. What do I mean by that? Can you bundle up a conversation easily and share it with someone else? Here you can. Just click the "Share" feature. - Robert Scoble

Compared with Twitter, Jeremy says that friendfeed has less ROI. OK, that's fair. Twitter is easier to comprehend for a lot of people. It's very simple. But, Twitter's search absolutely sucks right now, so the chances that someone will find your great Tweet is almost nil. Here's an exercise: find the original Tweet from the guy who shot the airplane crash in the Hudson. I can find it very quickly here on friendfeed's search. You can't find it right now on Twitter's search. - Robert Scoble

Robert: Do you think FF is better than RSS? - Jason Hansen

Jason: RSS +is+ friendfeed. Most of the services I'm bringing in here are via RSS. - Robert Scoble

Jeremy says that he's getting less ROI here. What he's really demonstrating is an entitlement attitude that I've seen from others lately "why aren't my items getting comments or likes." I heard the same thing from bloggers who never got comments. There's a trick to getting those, though, if that's your goal: you've gotta be conversational and participatory. People naturally engage with... more... - Robert Scoble

This is the exact same argument that Mike Arrington gave me back in December (plus he had the added problem that his business model requires him to get page views so that he can get paid for his advertising on his blog). Me? I don't care about the business model and I don't really care if I get comments on my items. You might thing I care, but I really don't. The thing is I always am involved in the conversation where it happens. - Robert Scoble

That's why I do my like feed: http://www.friendfeed.com/scoblei... -- I search out the best conversations and I show them to my readers. Then I comment on them. If you never ever come to my feed I really don't care, but I will come to yours. - Robert Scoble

Robert: That's true. I do like the conversations/comment feature within FF. I just wish I could get more of the people I know to use this. I hate all the applications/clutter within Facebook anymore & I was always against using MySpace/Facebook until several months ago. I'll never get a MySpace account, but went with Facebook. Twitter, I really use that to stay in touch with the local scene here within NW Ohio. I follow a few people outside of NW Ohio, but not too many. - Jason Hansen

If you have an entitlement attitude of "they must come to me" you won't do well in this world. Plus, this world is moving from a people-centric business (where guys like Jeremy used to rule, because he's an awesome networker) to one where we search for topics. Actually, thanks to friendfeed you'll see a hybrid approach where guys like Jeremy get seen more often in some topics, but less... more... - Robert Scoble

Jason: if you study the behaviors of 1000 people most won't ever get into using friendfeed. It's too much and they don't know enough of the people here to feel engaged. I think that's part of what Jeremy is saying too: he doesn't know or like a lot of the people he's seeing in friendfeed so he doesn't see the ROI. Remember what Jeremy does for a living: he launches companies and he does... more... - Robert Scoble

The more & more I use FF... I'm starting to like it. I think it's a lot better than Twitter when it comes to "networking". How do you manage these crowds though? - Jason Hansen

Jason: I've grown up as friendfeed has gotten an audience so I built in coping mechanisms. First I have a "small and intimate" experience like what a newbie has. I've kept one list to fewer than 150 people that I'm following and that's very high signal and very low noise. Then I'm adding a LOT more saved searches on various topics I care about. But that DOES take time to do and if you don't and you are putting all sorts of new people into one folder you're probably getting overwhelmed. - Robert Scoble

My biggest problem with FF vs. other services such as Twitter is that the FF mobile experience is pretty much non-existent. I know Robert has stated he is happy with the iPhone mobile web experience for FF. But I: 1) use and prefer a BlackBerry over the iPhone, and 2) don't much care for the iPhone FF experience even when I look at it on my iPod Touch. Lack of a suitable mobile... more... - Christopher A. Wichura

See that's the key, Scobleizer, when you are really doing what you love, which you are, you naturally become an expert in your field and naturally attract followers who need or want information about your field. And plus you are happy and not stressed and in a bad mood. And if everyone did what they loved, contrary to what we are taught, to go after the money first, the World's... more... - Stephen Pickering

The other thing that I believe is hurting FriendFeed at the moment is something that similarly hurt Jaiku: people use it as a dumping ground. They create an account, point it at all their various feed sources (of which the primary content source is usually Twitter) and then never log in again. So when FF imports their Twitter stream, if you are actually using FF and reply to them here,... more... - Christopher A. Wichura

(And yes, I know you can configure FF to spam Twitter with followbacks to FF, but I refuse to do that.) - Christopher A. Wichura

I agree with Christopher A. Wichura - the past 2 weeks have been painful on FF - with too much dumping and too much negativity. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Nice job, Robert. It's easy to look at somebody's feed, see few likes and comments and feel like there's "no activity", but it is a two-way street. This is the very best place to find information and get connected to people. The fact that it has incredible uptime and a deep search database to boot is great as well. - Louis Gray

I've experienced a little bit of what Jeremy has been talking about... With friend's list set up the way they are, I'm not sure if my posts aren't getting eyeballs cause I'm not in the top lists of most users or because they just scroll by so quickly... or if my posts are getting eye balls and people aren't choosing to engage because the posts are boring... I will say that one thing I... more... - Frankie Warren

OK I'm lost from the get go what's ROI stand for please? But the tone is obiosuly of another FFing hata! - sofarsoShawn ~presque...

Return On Investment - BRҰANSAҰS

Muchos Dios ~ now I feel "in the loop." As a genuine Frog otherwise known as a Frenchie un Roi is defined in Engish as a king. - sofarsoShawn ~presque...

if I look at a feed which has little else other than "from Twitter" then I just move on. - John Hardy

Robert, little problem with what you've said. If anyone here dares to claim I don't participate in the conversations of others around here, I will be forced to deliver an electron SMACK! People can engage with others and yet not get much back. With that said, I'm not saying that Jeremy is in the same situation. - MiniMage

btw, Robert, it's not an "entitlement attitude" when I made the straight-up disclaimer that what I don't like is the fact that if I don't invest a *LOT* of energy (i said "crazy energy"), I get *NO* likes/comments. it's frustrating and time-consuming, and I think MiniMage's last comment is a perfect summary of it. - Jeremy Toeman

Jeremy: Mike Arrington doesn't come here very often but his items get TONS of likes/comments. Why is that? Oh, the same thing happens on his blog too (he gets many more comments on each of his items than you do on your blog. He also gets more retweets). - Robert Scoble

According to FFHolic, I'm the 1379th most active user and the 28454th most followed user. But that's ok, because I'm not a great conversation starter even IRL. I enjoy interacting through comments, and once in a while some people read and like my stuff. I do think that FF and Twitter are, for most people, just another way to consume content from those who, like Robert, are great at... more... - invariant

Robert, Mike gets attention on here because he is known elsewhere. Here would be a great test. Someone dump the same items into FF under a different name and I bet the number of likes and comments would dramatically decrease. - LPH™ and his dog P™

LPH: well, that would be true. But I engage on things of people I know personally a lot more than I would on things of people I don't know at all. - Robert Scoble

Maybe I'm the opposite - I tend to engage with the unknown more on the internet than IRL. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Robert: How do you get to know those people personally? I suspect it's because you've been a big enough force in the world that people will pay you fly everywhere and meet those people. Josie Schmo, on the other hand, is simply going to have to be an unknown who doesn't know the known. This is not a sob story; Josie can make her way, eventually, right? - MiniMage

Shhh! I'm trying to have a good attitude so I can get my mind back in the game! ;) That nasty, yelling vlogger guy said Scoble works harder than everyone, and I'm not saying he's wrong. - MiniMage

I could never have gotten into this conversation on Twitter, simply cause it doesn't do multi-person threading. From that aspect alone, FF is meaningful, if you have time. However, Twitter does trump it today simply cause the 40% of the folks who don't drop out are tweeting about everything under the sun, making the stream 'real time'. - Abhimanyu Chirimar

This is a good conversation. Reading it on my iPhone over breakfast is so much better than the boring old Sunday NY Times. Plus it's cheaper. - Thomas Hawk

If you approach FriendFeed with the Pavlovian idea that you should get Likes and Comments for your contribution then you're going to be disappointed. FriendFeed is not Twitter. FriendFeed is not High School. Popularity doesn't mean much. Or it shouldn't if you're doing it right. In fact, it's *not* a social platform - not really. Use FriendFeed to help you make meaning of all the data... more... - AJ Kohn

I'm starting to look at FF as more of a learning tool. Like a student, I'm here to watch and learn - although it feels stalkerish to follow people around asking questions, reading their conversations, trying out the apps they are trying out, etc. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Robert: if you ate interested in a topically organized social media aggregator, gethighnote.com strives to do that. Disclosure: I am an advisor. Would love input/feedback. - Ryan Miller from Nambu

Robert, what are your thoughts on the theory that new design has changed the level of engagement for some. I think there is some truth to this. While I've heard that the number of comments and likes have gone up (I think I heard someone from FF say that - maybe on Gillmor Gang?), I get the feeling that a smaller number of popular threads (like Jeremy's yesterday) get the action while... more... - Mike Doeff

@Thomas true, but the "boring old Sunday NY Times" helps make us all more informed about topics we might not come across when we pick & choose our content streams (like this one, which might be interesting and entertaining, but certainly not informing)... but i digress. :) - Jeremy Toeman

Mike Bracco to The Apple Room: TNW Apple, Appetite, All Things Apple

Annoyed by the window resizing weirdness of iTunes. Hold down OPTION while you click the maximize button to get iTunes to properly fill the screen.

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Hold down Option? Is that a key? - Kol Tregaskes

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@Kol AKA alt key - Mike Bracco

Yes Kol, Shift, Control, Option, Command the 4 true modifiers! - Andrew Roche

Mike, I have one of those. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Ian Betteridge

How to Use Twitter for Marketing and PR (great guide, A++++. Would buy again.) http://www.howtousetwitterform...

May 22, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Victor Agreda Jr

Once again, google maps completely fucked us.

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Gabe Rivera

Friendfeed is irresistibly useful now. Recent features add up to a really compelling product. Really hope Twitter never chokes 'em.

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Saw this immediately thanks to notifications. - MG Siegler

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Saw your comment immediately. - Gabe Rivera

BTW, that was my first FF comment since August '08. - Gabe Rivera

Like a virgin. - MG Siegler

Welcome back then Gabe! - Simon Wicks

I'm tellin' ya. FF's back. Just bookmarked their iphone friendly site. - Mario Sundar

you don't say ;-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev

The day FF will launch real-time, the earth will stand still. - Jérôme

Jerome: wut? I myself will lurve saved searches AKA track AKA Gillmor's Grail - Gabe Rivera

I meant every smart microblogger will have to move to Friendfeed. Time will only run on Friendfeed! - Jérôme

Gillmor may spontaneously combust if track hits FF before it restarts on twitter - Adrian

I'd love to hear a list why its "irresistibly useful" for you, Gabe. I'm still quasi-resisting, although I do find it useful. - C. K. Sample III

I will repeat here: it would be great for users if Twitter and FF merged their capabilities. One completes the other. - William Mougayar

William, what does Twitter do that Friendfeed doesn't? - Jérôme

Hey Gabe - great to see you here - Hutch Carpenter

what recent features excite you - @baratunde

CK, baratunde: essentially, its capacity to extend Twitter in very useful ways. Creating small friend lists here (to track separately from your main feed) is easier here than with Twitter desktop apps, and the results come in in real time. I also turned on IM notifications for select friends. Remember Twitter had IM? They took the feature away. - Gabe Rivera

There goes the neighborhood! :-) - Robert Scoble

The last couple days on Twitter have brought me back to FF as well - Costa Walcott

Gabe - any plans to add services like FriendFeed/Backtype/Reddit etc to Link Search option in Techmeme. Tried Link Search on top headline i.e. http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL... and got zero results from Google Blog Search/Ask and IceRocket returned 5. - Atul Arora

Atul: huh, putting a URL in FF search does come up with useful results, so I think I'll add FF to the link search list. If those other services have backlink search currently available, please list sample query urls here and I'll take a look. (BTW, to see what Atul's talking about, click "Preferences" on Techmeme, then click "Show Link Search".) - Gabe Rivera

Backtype aggregates across Reddit, YCombinator and FriendFeed - See http://www.backtype.com/comment... - Atul Arora

Gabe bit.ly also does link search and returns FriendFeed, Twitter and Backtype results for all bit.ly version of that URLs e.g. http://bit.ly/info/8XNa4. Since @TechmemeFH and @Techmeme are both using bit.ly the link search is simply adding the + after the URL i.e. http://bit.ly/8XNa4+ for the bit.ly based link search. - Atul Arora

Gabe, here's a link to our connect feature which shows all the conversation around a link (digg, reddit, twitter, friendfeed, hacker news, and posts that link in): http://www.backtype.com/connect... - Mike Montano

Mike - so what is bit.ly using to show comments from backtype. It shows zero comments. Is it filtering comments so that it only shows comments from the blog page? - Atul Arora

Thanks Mike, Atul. I will take a close look at this later and probably add some more link search links. - Gabe Rivera

Atul, yes they're using a method that only fetches comments from the page being queried, though full connect functionality would be a nice addition imo. - Mike Montano

Hey look Gabe is back! :) - Susan Beebe

I agree, except that it should be easier to add an external feed other than through the cumbersome creation of an "Imaginary Friend". - Derek Mahar

My mustache is more lustrous and thick after switching to FriendFeed. I have a lot more energy. Even my wife has noticed certain improvements in my usefulness around the house. Thanks FriendFeed! [I BLUSH] - Jay Cuthrell

I'm still going to say that I think links to friendfeed discussions on blog posts belong on Techmeme. ;) - Thomas Hawk

Wait, is this sarcastic Twitter Gabe or normal Gabe? What persona have you decided to adopt on FF? :) - Matt Cutts

No idea whether it's of use to TechMeme, Gabe, but FriendFeed's API will give you a list of all the entries that link to a specified URL. http://code.google.com/p... You can see it in action with http://ffcheck.com - Ken Sheppardson

I agree I like Friendfeed simplicity. - LaShea Miller

Friendfeed just gets better every day (and is incredibly responsive to user feedback!) - Charlie Anzman

like the notifications air app ... been trying it out. - Julian Lukács

FriendFeed FTW! - (jeff)isageek

@mattcutts: hah, no I'm serious here. FF's current feature set now offers great value to me. I suspect FF still has a major challenge offering a compelling and differentiated product to the Oprah crowd, but that doesn't concern me (and FF may nail that eventually). - Gabe Rivera

@thomashawk: noted. :-) - Gabe Rivera

I have already noticed a massive increase in followers on friendfeed recently. Anecdotal evidence indicates friendfeed is growing (I find it has a higher utility as well) - Jordan Willms

Agree, great improvements! - Tim Moore

Robert Scoble

Trend for 2010: intimacy parties where there's no Twitter, no Flickr, no blogging, no friendfeeding. I wanna do one in NYC next Thursday. Anyone else in?

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Wouldn't that be a year too early? Wait, never mind. Early Adopter... =) - FFing Enigma

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I'm getting my 2010 Prius in a couple of weeks, so we are already in the 2010 Web. - Robert Scoble

My husband, the late adopter, would love your party, Robert... ;-) - Victoria Plautia

Can we make out? - Leo Laporte

I think you need another name for this kind of party. If you tell people that you are having an intimacy party, they are going to think you are a swinger or something. - Andrew

Social Media Unplugged? - FFing Enigma

lol leo - Andrew VanderVeen

Leo: if we made out we'd certainly test the system! - Robert Scoble

I can just see the news headlines already: "The Future Is Now! Blogger extraordinaire Scoble rebrands 20th century regular 'party' as 'intimacy party'" - Tyler Hayes

yeah, Robert, the branding on that is a little hinky. The first image I had of an "intimacy party" did not include twitter and friendfeed friends. - Karoli

Karoli: yesterday I told a bunch of PR people that watching Twitter all day made me crave intimacy. They all thought I was talking about sex. I told them I wasn't talking about sexual intimacy. Watching 90,000 Twitterers makes me want to have a deep conversation about something. - Robert Scoble

MVB: AOL never had intimacy. - Robert Scoble

I would love to check out a party like this. I wonder if Dallas is ready for one. - Ha3rvey #teamMonique from fftogo

i would be happy to attend - but how will i know where it is if we can't share the details online? carrier pigeon? - Allen Stern

Eau contraire Robert, AOL popularized the term "a/s/l" - the ULTIMATE form of intimacy. - Tyler Hayes

I blame Linda Stone for this. She invited me to one of her dinners. Eight people. No blogging. All hand selected. And she made sure we kept the conversation on something deep and intimate. - Robert Scoble

LOL, I give it 20 minutes before you're all shaking, bored and call the whole thing off and run for your iPhones and Blackberry's and Netbooks! Especially after the only two 7 minute conversation bursts where no one can cite any facts without Google and everything mentioned screams fodder for a tweet or blog post or streaming video or live picture. :) - Adam Turetzky

Tyler: I'm not talking about sexual intimacy. - Robert Scoble

Adam: I don't agree. You should have seen the geeks after TechCrunch's StarTrek showing. First of all, it kept me off of friendfeed for two hours. Second of all, we enjoyed talking about it afterward. - Robert Scoble

MVB: I'll be in New York Thursday. Eric: Qik, you mean? Nope, not allowed. - Robert Scoble

Well then Robert, I look forward to the results and my hypotheses proved wrong. :) - Adam Turetzky

I guess Leo is serious about making this an intimacy party... - David van Sunder from Nambu

David: I'd make out with Leo and I'm straight. Just don't tell my wife, OK? She gets jealous. - Robert Scoble

Like the idea. Would appreciate learning more about someone than the minute slice they reveal on socnets. Especially since I've found it increasingly difficult to raise people using that antiquated device called the "phone." At least for voice. Seems like no one wants to have a conversation unless they can pause a few minutes to Google the best bons mots. (edit: I did not Google "bons mots.") - Sue Radd

Christopher: friendfeed is the best place for setting these up, isn't it? - Robert Scoble

If I was in NYC I'd be in, unfortunately I'm not. - Andrew VanderVeen

Iim in ! - Rich White

Linda Stone's parties told me something else. We have to limit each table to four people. Any more guarantees a lack of intimacy and depth. - Robert Scoble

so, is that just like a party...? - David Vyorst

Yeah, sounds pretty much like a good old fashioned dinner party, David. I'm having one of those tomorrow. Everything that's old is new again I suppose... - FFing Enigma

David: not really. I'm specifically going to invite people to sit at a specific table with three other specific people. That's what Linda Stone did and it created magic. - Robert Scoble

Would definitely like to see how this goes. if only i were in NYC....good luck to all attending it...To the organizer(s): Please post pics of any party games u carry out...esp ones that involve drinking. - Freddie Benjamin

Robert, that's a traditional dinner party, where everyone has assigned seating. Name cards if possible. - FFing Enigma

Tina: a dinner party is EXACTLY what we're talking about. Except limited to four people and assigned seating and a rule of no recording/broadcasting what happens. - Robert Scoble

Linda Stone does this at her house in Seattle and it creates magic. - Robert Scoble

Robert: Can you post/twit/ff afterwards? - Clifford Kennedy

Clifford: no. - Robert Scoble

Clifford: other than in general terms. When I went to one of Linda Stone's dinners, for instance, I was sitting next to an author and a tech researcher and a politician. It's a conversation that I'll remember the rest of my life, but can't be shared. - Robert Scoble

This is definitely a sign of the apocalypse. - Paul from twhirl

The fact that this is getting engagement tells me that my trend prediction has some fuel behind it. - Robert Scoble

Robert: I’m definitely intrigued. - Clifford Kennedy

based on what you do Robert and what you and I think the rest of us are passionate about, lets hope this doesn't catch on except in the realm of some type of rich person underground fetish thing. LOL :) I'd much rather see us push for 100MB fiber for everyone and have a virtual dinner party via iChat or Skype without dropouts or latency problems and in HD. :) - Adam Turetzky from IM

Adam: the older I get the more I realize that the reason we have all this technology is so we can find other people we want to meet around the world. I remember in the 1980s when the Internet was first being understood that people would say "you'll never travel anymore." Oh, yeah? Why did I do 120,000 miles on United last year? High def Skype will just make you want to meet that person on the other side even more. - Robert Scoble

Im in for that. Maybe not next Thursday. BUt isn't it like a tweet up? - kenneth glenn

Kenneth: no. A Tweetup is chaotic and not intimate. - Robert Scoble

It should be called an "analog party". - dthree

Do you think it would be possible to replicate the level playing field on sees in social media? I gauge "interestingness" based on words alone. Not your job, not your status, not your level of education and not your dough. - Sue Radd

Sue: the thing is, the more I get around the world, there is some correlation between education, status, dough, AND your words/interestingness. It's unfortunate in some cases, but true. - Robert Scoble

Sue: on the other hand, just because you have education, status, dough, that doesn't mean you are interesting, just that out of 1,000 people it makes it more likely. I have found some interesting people without any of the three, but it's tougher, that's for sure. - Robert Scoble

sure, you know where to find me!! - Bryan Thatcher

...but if someone doesn't Tweet, FF, or blog it, how do we know it ever happened? <wink> - .LAG liked that

LAG: the disruption in the force! :-) - Robert Scoble

I highly agree you don't need all three but the desire to learn and gain all those in some way is important. If you have all three, you tend to struggle outside the box. Maybe I'll unplug next Thursday in CT just to support the concept. Technology is a great tool but sometimes it's just noise and complicates things. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

Yet another type of party I won't be attending...LOL - Rahsheen?

Funny how this feels like such a strange concept these days. - Mike Doeff

Scobleizer...i like it: Social Media Unplugged™... they used to call them "retreats" or "off-sites." - .LAG liked that

...I call it 'boys night out'! - .LAG liked that

Look at LAG trying to gank my phrase ;-) - FFing Enigma

...I trademarked that shii Tina! but you get points for using the term "gank." sweet! - .LAG liked that

hey, NYC unplugged, boys night out? sounds good to me. i'm in! - Bob Sokol

Bob: boys and girls night out. - Robert Scoble

Fair enough. Either way, you've certainly found a lot of interest in this... - Bob Sokol

I'll take to you around rural Texas, where this is still pretty much the norm. :) - Mike Chapman

i'm in!!! just say the name and place - Rob

So how does one find out about one of these parties, a piece of paper stapled to an electric pole? - Jeff Sher

Jeff: friendfeed of course! - Robert Scoble

I'm in, as long as you pay for my accommodation and travel fees :P - MλTT

Where in NY? I could be in. - C. K. Sample III

I'm staying at the Kitano Hotel (66 Park Ave., at 38th Street). Want to meet there? - Robert Scoble

We welcome you in Istanbul with great pleasure - Jacque

interesting idea - (jeff)isageek

That could work. Bogarts is a good bar that's right there. Or Mexican over on 3rd... The Sun office is right by there, so I have spent some time in that neighborhood :) - Bob Sokol from email

Remember the rules of Cuddle Party. http://www.cuddleparty.com/rules... - l.m.orchard from twhirl

You, stay off of FriendFeed or Twitter for a night? Hell, I'll pay to see that! Count me in! - Thomas Ward

+1 Thomas. Scoble wants to unplug? OMG. But seriously, I call that "time with my girlfriend", no need to develop a fancy name for it.... - Steve Lynch from twhirl

Intimacy party? Sounds like a good old fashion dinner party is called for. I'll cook. Who's coming to dinner? I'll feed you. Kindly bring some wine. - Arleen Boyd

Heh, ya, this isn't exactly a trend so much as "normal behavior engaged in by millions around the world for thousands of years". - Jason Wehmhoener

Arleen, it's a bit of a "drive" to your house. Raincheck? :D - c.a.j.

+2 Jason & Arleen. Seems awkward to make up a new name for what has always been known as "a party" or "a dinner". Maybe something´s wrong with your social circles if you blog or tweet when you´re "partying" ? - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ

I agree, though 'intimacy parties' is a little risque of a name ;) But the need to find appropriate boundaries and to connect without tech is a clear need. When I did the 'soul tech' workshops, it hit a national nerve that within weeks got the workshops on the today show: http://www.sparksocialmedia.com/video... - Leif Hansen

OK, I'm in, but if I see keys in a bowl, I'm leaving. ;) - John Craft

I won't mind that but there will be lot of discussions about parties on twitter and friendfeed following the parties. - Ashish

You mean like "actual" IN REAL LIFE social networking...blasphemy! I'll watch it on ScobleTV - sofarsoShawn ~presque...

Gonna have to turn off cell phones. - Barry Biddlecomb from twhirl

Barry, that's not going to happen. I bet they all have an anxiety attacks if they thought their cellphones would off for more then an hour. Most people put their cellphones on vibrate in the movies the same will happen here. - Paul from twhirl

Wondering how the "no tech" dinner went last night. Did it happen and if so did everyone survive? - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

Found: the very interesting conversation I was looking for... now to figure out how to save this thread so I don't lose it... - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Scott McNulty

you want a conference call to be brief? Have me run it.

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Victor Agreda Jr

Circa 1935, eh? You think cavemen didn't share puns by scribbling them on pebbles and throwing them at each other?

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David Chartier

One of the best options I've ever seen in FriendFeed.

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That's pretty funny. - C. K. Sample III

David, if I ever piss you off, remind me gently not to do so again. I don't want to feel "the wrath of the hide". ;) - Kevin C. Tofel

Where does one find those options anyway? - Chris White

Fred Wilson

i just posted my thoughts on the new WSJ rules on using social media http://www.avc.com/a_vc... curious what @pkafka and @karaswisher think

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WSJ repoters may be able to flout the "social" conventions of social media because of the paper's elite status. (They charge for a product onlyne most competitors give away for free right now.) Not saying I agree, but it sounds like a CYA move that also promotes the News Corp "pay-worthy" brand they hope to pull off elsewhere. - Kawika Holbrook

Om Malik

I think google has no big ideas. this morning they announced a to-do-list. FGS. Remember the milk MUCH better. http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009...

February 3, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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RTM ftw - andy brudtkuhl

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Aye, but I hate the fact that RTM doesn't have an outlook sync - Seang-Lim Tan

Om, we need to have lunch. :) Also today: http://bit.ly/3EzaDS (Google is funding research on the Singularity). Yesterday, a full picture of the world's oceans, plus the ability to see historical imagery as slices over time. Recently, a completely open-source mobile operating system. Also recently, a fast web browser with a distinct philosophy of ease-of-use and radically improved security abstractions. - Matt Cutts

Also in the last week: http://bit.ly/SAq8 New details emerge of Google's research into crawling the deep web. It's live on google.com now and has substantially improved Google's relevance and coverage over other search engines. - Matt Cutts

Also in the last week: Google releases a whole set of tools to make broadband measurements more easy. This has long-term implications from net neutrality to censorship to debugging desktop applications: http://bit.ly/Mkkz - Matt Cutts

Also in the last week: an update on the dozens of ways that Google is pushing open-source forward, from direct contributions to software packages http://bit.ly/146Ln to post-commit hooks on Google Code, our open-source project hosting: http://bit.ly/aOFO . The latter allows anyone to kick off all kinds of flexible HTTP POSTs to the open web after a commit. - Matt Cutts

Also in the last week: offline Gmail. "Oh well, other companies have already introduced that," you say. Absolutely right; we took more time to make sure that offline Gmail worked well. But in many cases, that offline ability is based off of Gears, which was a big idea proposed and pushed forward by Google. Gears is a big idea that enables all sorts of useful innovations. - Matt Cutts

looks like M.Cutts just laid out the innovation smack down! - shayne catrett

Also in the last week: mentions of major research funding for the next Big Ideas in search and beyond: http://bit.ly/exGQ These are important ideas that Google is encouraging in academia. - Matt Cutts

Look, a to-do list might not seem like a Big Idea. And that's okay. Not every launch is going to be a Big Idea. Sometimes it's going to be iterating and improving. I think a ubiquitous to-do list accessible via mobile/xhtml phone, Gmail, or web/gadget is pretty handy. But Google still has plenty of Big Ideas and ways that we're pushing the web and the world forward. - Matt Cutts

The ocean project seems like big enough idea to me. I completely second Matt Cutts that Big G is not out of big ideas :) - Varun Mahajan

Google really doesn't need any more big ideas IMO. They're behaving like a more mature company and doing more with their current ideas. 'Big ideas' often turn out to be a big waste of time and a distraction from the core business - hence the pretty radical trimming that has taken place lately. [edit] So something like Google Books which has been taking place for ages ... will finally pay off after the settlement is finalized. *That* is a big idea, but it's one they've had for 5+ years. - AJ Kohn

I think it can be safely said that Malik's off-color comment has been ceremoniously dismantled - coldbrew

Om pwned. --ET - Charlie Wood

Google has *too many* ideas, I think, is the real problem, and they rarely anymore bother to make anything truly great. Matt, I wouldn't be bragging about Google Offline either. I had to discontinue use after one day b/c it kept switching me to offline mode and I kept getting "Still working...." messages throughout the day, despite being connected to my home internet connection with no problems or slow downs in any of the other sites or services I had open. - C. K. Sample III

Where is the answer from Om? - Edwin Khodabakchian

So I did end up posting my response -- sure Matt makes good/great points in some cases but also glosses over a few things. Of course, we are disagreeing. http://gigaom.com/2009... - Om Malik

For me, it seems that some of my favorite Google projects have been messed with without direction. They integrated Bookmarks with Notebook, now have stopped work on Notebook(?) Now they add tasks to gmail only. I use notebook all across the web, including gmail. It's just confusing to me. I wonder if my RTM account is still valid. - adam garrett

The need of the hour is a good open strategy and let other dev's improve on ideas the Google has already implemented. There are API's but they lack the control one wants. - Ritesh

For me, it was Google Earth's upgrade but did anyone stop and think that Google is throwing a bunch of stuff out there (using their current resources) to find out what becomes 'the big idea' ? - Charlie Anzman

@om, hypothetically speaking, what if google's to-do saves 10, 5 or 1 million people (30m total users) 10 extra minutes/day, 5 days/week? Certainly nothing small about that right! Same goes for any and all efficiency tools/features put out by yahoo/ms/fb - if even 1/2 of those extra minutes get re-invested/re-converted back into productive labor, the impact/effect will be quite large over the long-term. :) - Will DeLuca

Gabe Rivera

Perhaps only one person on Twitter understands "social media". And I'm watching the Twitter search results for his name right now.

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Ok who's the lucky winner? aka the 1 person who understands "social media" on twitter? - Susan Beebe

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Obviously two people understand: the secret person and also Gabe, who is the single person skilled enough to make such pronouncements. - Michael Krigsman

+ 1 Michael!! LOL - Susan Beebe

what makes that person "the only one" exactly? - Niki Costantini

I didn't realize it was such a hard concept to comprehend. Is it more esoteric than it appears? - Jack&Cleo

I realized tonight why Tweets should never get onto Techmeme. Too much dopiness (including from me). - Robert Scoble

Steve Gillmor

just posted something. Let's see how long it takes to get to RSS.

December 29, 2008 from IM - Comment - Like - Share

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exciting, is it about twitter alerts? - sean percival

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Yo Gillmor. How's trix? - Thomas Hawk

good thomas. et tu? - Steve Gillmor

Thomas: when are we gonna do a photowalk? I wanna shoot the seals at ana neuevo. Wanna go? - Robert Scoble

Shooting seals will get you in trouble. Gotta use something quiet, like a club. ;-) - Jeremy Brooks

1 hour. nothing. feedburner is fucked. google, wake up - Steve Gillmor

twitter is the new RSS ? - Adrian

aac74 Google wants RSS dead apparently - Steve Gillmor from IM

Queue TC post in 3, 2, 1... - Mohamed J

2 hours. still no feedburner. pathetic - Steve Gillmor

Showed up in my feeds about 10 minutes ago. Nice post, too. - Karoli

I accept your challenge: http://ur1.ca/0jir - Karoli

Chris, thank you. :) - Karoli

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I gotta give it up for the cool Yoda and Luke illustration used to go with the article. - Louis Trapani from twhirl

mcawesome. - Anika

Love it. - Roberto Bonini

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Ride the... what? - http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008...

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Everyone rides the S.L.U.T. up here... - Live4Emma (L4S)

that's your town, gnome - Josh Haley

Louis Gray

How many twitter followers does it take make an impact? - http://news.buzzgain.com/?p=76

October 1, 2008 from Google Reader - Comment - Like - Share

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Depends on how many are bots and mal-lowers. - Tinfoil 2.0

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1. If I follow you and retweet you you'll have an impact. - Robert Scoble

1, if that person can effect change. - Ben Jackson from twhirl

Amen, brother. Scoble's retweets are the juice. - John McCrea

Scoble - laughing at your comment. @chrisbrogan has had a similar effect w/ me in the past. One mention and voila, many new followers. @Louis, I'd say that you start to hit critical mass at 100 but they obviously have to be the right 100. At 500-1,000, you can start to get some very effective research/survey results from your followers. - Aaron Strout

John, you don't even need one follower, thinking about it. The world is moving to http://search.twitter.com so you can get found with very few followers there. - Robert Scoble

+10 Scoble - imran

Thanks Mr. Scoble. I just found someone to chat with about my executive dashboard project. - Mattb4rd

Robert: so true. I am addicted to Twitter search. It is vital to my work (and fun). - John McCrea

@Aaron, this is not a post I wrote, but one from Mukund at BuzzGain. And yes, I agree that Twitter Search is more important than Twitter's Web interface at this point. - Louis Gray

Haven't we been here before. 1st we all create content. Then, Search organizes the content. I suppose "Twitter Words" is next? - Alan Edgett

Funny how often I've been asked the EXACT same questions. We've been having a nice discussion about this as well (1.6k views and 70 comments now) around a great article that was written by a member. http://tinyurl.com/3h8mdz - Info@Biznik

None - they all spend so much time reading twitter (and FF :) ) that nothing gets done! - Chris Rogers

On who? - Warner Crocker

depends on targeted/anticipated impact and target audience. - Hayk

@Scoble - technically one, but realistically I have to go with @aaron - Mukund

The real question is, how many twitter followers does it take to change a lightbulb? - Jan Dawson

your message is more important, how to write compelling copy in 140 characters - Dan Rockwell from twhirl

impact? the summize purchase was great but tweetscan deserves a plug - & no one has monetized even the text aspect of twitter yet - ($800/MB is valuable bitspace controlled by telecom - SMS is hugely profitable) so ... impact? twitter matched to transactions are a way off - using bandwidth for scale & ROI on time to tweet are a bit too abstracted to make much sense of impact suggested in the article - Wes Schadenfreud

Startup Success: David Z

The Startup Depression - Jason Calacanis - http://calacanis.com/2008...

October 1, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

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clearly he's going to need to start posting his emails on his blog - it's not blogging, it's just reposting emails on his blog and people can comment... :) - Zee.

Actually what I heard was that so many email subscribers, like Fred Wilson, were commenting on the post, Jason decided to post it on his blog. Fred's comments on the post are at http://www.avc.com/a_vc... - David Z

Startup Success: Capn' One Eye - adrift

Startups Best Positioned To Weather A Downturn - http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...

October 1, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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Obsessable

Welcome to Obsessable: http://www.obsessable.com/ We're live!

September 23, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Yeah, Obsessable is live! Check it out! - C. K. Sample III

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awesomeness!! - judith

congrats! - kolywater

whoa, i didn't see this coming... ;-P - barb dybwad

Thomas Hawk

Nikon's New D90 Shoots Video, Includes GPS, Steals Canon's 50D's Thunder - http://thomashawk.com/2008...

August 27, 2008 from Thomas Hawk's Digital... - Comment - Like - Share

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first DSLR to shoot video and geotag that I'm aware of. - Thomas Hawk

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grrrr.. is that right cmiper? it said they had one left. I'll have to try to search for it someplace else. - Thomas Hawk

Regardless of your brand... this means all sorts of win for the consumer :) - Johnny

@Thomas - They do have a listing for D90, it's atleast 100$ less then the cost quoted in your blog post (for version with Kit) and less than 1000$ for non-kit body only version. - Yuvi

ok, looks like the price is actually $999.95 on Amazon, but that it is out of stock. I fixed that link. I'll go check over to see if there are any available at B&H. - Thomas Hawk

hmm. B&H isn't showing a listing for the D90 yet. I guess it will probably be a few days before these start showing up for sale. - Thomas Hawk

John, you are absolutely right. This is a huge win for the consumer, video and geotagging now raises a new bar. I will be very interested in what Canon brings to the table with the new 5D likely to be announced at photokina next month. - Thomas Hawk

Also, I'm wondering how GPS will work when you want to use another flash in the hotshoe (the GPS addon plugs in to the hotshoe) - Yuvi

Ok, the Nikon Press release confirms the $999.95 price point: http://www.imaginginsider.com/... - Thomas Hawk

GPS is *awesome* it would save me a lot of time having to manually geotag my photos. This is some of the best camera tech news I've seen in a while. - Thomas Hawk

Wow, great intro vid. I wonder if it's worth switching to Nikon... - Michael

phenomenal! The video was so cool and the Blakes rock. Now to convince the girlfriend to buy the camera! - Randy Ksar

Michael, I wouldn't until at least Photokina :) - Johnny

@Micheal - GPS on the unit apparently uses EXIF, so Flickr and co should be able to pull those up without much trouble. - Yuvi

Ha, like I can even afford the 5D now... I did just get some new Canon Lenses though. - Michael

GPS with auto geotagging is something that willbe needed before I upgrade from my 20D. Lots I good features already but nothing had come out yet to make it worth my money to upgrade yet. - Dean Clark

Time to upgrade the D70s - Eric - seven eleven

@yuvi... the GPS unit is not required to mount on the hot shoe. That is purely for convenience. I would prefer to have it attached to my strap, which could easily be done with a rubber band, or even a bicycle inner tube. - Neil Bernhart

This is screaming to stream video live to the web....maybe bluetooth connection to a smartphone? - Jamie Ginsberg

@Jamie Just wait for a revision (if it needs one) of the EyeFi SD-Card :) - Holger Eilhard

Looks like time to start saving - Zach Chisholm

want. - Sean Oliver

Thx for the heads up ... I placed an order, hope that this'll be a backup body for a d3x (or at least the d700) someday not-all-that-far-away ;-) Actually that sounds like a great combination for a lot of stuff - a solid full-frame with the right glass for the situation, and the d90 with that really handy nikon 18-200 to catch everything else. - Bob Lozano

Video is cool, but don't know how much I'd really use it. I'm hoping the new 5D will have built in GPS / Geo tagging also. - Jeff P. Henderson

FYI - D90 GPS is NOT included. The D90 is simply compatible with the GPS that Nikon will begin selling in November. This GPS is also compatible with the D200, D300, D700 and D3. Still looks like a cool camera. - gfurry

Included GPS would be awesome. Really hoping that Canon comes up with something good. - jho

@jauderho I hope so too. Canon had an early lead in the prosumer DSLR market and just doesn't seem to be innovating as much lately. The 50D is just not compelling me to upgrade my 30D. - Andy Denmark

The 5D coming out next month at photokina had better be damn good is all I can say. I'm planning on buying one so I'm hoping it will at least have geotagging capability. - Thomas Hawk

Andy, well the 50D does have some nice improvements. But then again for me, I went from a 20D to a 5D because of the viewfinder and full frame. I still have the 20D and will probably get it converted to infrared at some point. - jho

In case anyone is looking for a deal and does not mind an older but still plenty good model. From Ken Rockwell's site, Ritz Camera is selling brand-new Canon 30D cameras on closeout for $699. http://twurl.nl/bryoys - jho

Victor Agreda Jr

Only 6 more hours until my iPhone is done backing up. BOOM! It just works.

August 22, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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mine took 3 hours the other day. ridiculous. - C. K. Sample III from twhirl

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