Claudia Koltzenburg

I am wondering if we could quantify the resulting scientific divide... I'd guess we are moving a academic caste system... where some fields are strong because they were strong... - Egon Willighagen

(yes, I'm a lousy cheminformatician... all are, that's why the field is almost non-existent) - Egon Willighagen

Which in turns is why it is so damn difficult for me to get funding, which is why cheminformatics will never be big, despite so many people using/doing it... - Egon Willighagen

Q: so if many ppl are using it, why does it not range higher? Does the article answer exactly this for you? and if yes, are we really dealing with a dead-end aristocracy? could open processes help redress the balance in any way? - Claudia Koltzenburg

yepp, http://blog.okfn.org/2010... - Claudia Koltzenburg

maybe we need an initiative called "make openly citable" e.g., without having to check other pages to infer a date :-) - Claudia Koltzenburg

Good point about using component DOIs not just for tables and figures. Direct link to methods, discussion, bibliography also important. I don't know yet whether you can nest component DOIs, e.g. a figure in the results section. - Martin Fenner

now, nesting is a *really* good point, CTT will test this, too. Further, I wonder what we could learn from microblogging & Co. here? any ideas? E.g. if I referred to this passage <begin>a figure in the results section<end> from your reply without quoting it in quotation marks but putting a link/pointer behind "nesting" that highlights exactly those 6 words that your example consists of - wouldn't that be cool? where is this done? - Claudia Koltzenburg

would there be any use cases for generating component doi the moment they are needed by readers? sth like on-the-fly? - Claudia Koltzenburg

How would on-the-fly work with DOIs? Aren't they persistent identifiers? - Martin Fenner

yes, wasn't sure how to describe my idea better so said "sth like" but meant only one aspect of "on-the-fly", namely the inception: created when needed (and should then be a persistent identifier)... best of both worlds-like. What do AML geeks say to this? - Jason Priem to the thread, please :-) - Claudia Koltzenburg

I'm here! And I'm useless! Not only am I not an AML geek, I don't even know what it stands for.... But I think the idea of on-demand, arbitrarily-scoped DOIs is interesting (and why just for things smaller than a paper? A collection of papers could have a DOI, too.) On-demand DOIs would be key for annotations, which are ultimately just special cases of papers. - Jason Priem

thanks, & sorry, I meant ALM ;-) can you imagine any use case in this regard - "Article Level" Metrics? - Claudia Koltzenburg