I have Android angst. Will I blow up on today's call?
- Robert Scoble
@Robert is switching to android like dating a stripper? She looks great but once you find out she sleeps all day and can't stop flirting with guys you realize hose bad of a decision it was? NOT a personal story at all :/
- Matthew Voshell
Heheh. Matthew, it's not quite THAT bad. But the notifications suck. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Android angst? Can't wait to hear what that's all about. And isn't it amazing that while Google Reader will be gone soon Friendfeed is still around?
- Alex de Soto
Yeah. That'll be more interesting with Google Glass, but then I'm still partial to Evernote. I don't trust Google as much as I used to.
- Robert Scoble
We could also talk about algorithmic user interfaces (like what Facebook is moving to). That bugged me a lot at first but now I'm very intrigued.
- Robert Scoble
I completely agree Evernote is amazing... when did google try to play catch up and not just be the innovators they are? are they getting TOO big?
- Matthew Voshell
Hmmm, Gillmors can't be reached. Steve is in New York. Tina must be having troubles.
- Robert Scoble
how can you dislike android notifications? dislike some apps for doing them badly, sure (twitter)
- Kevin Marks
I just got back through and Tina is having trouble with one of the machines. Please stand by.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: all apps suck on 4.2.1 all notifications are single lines and totally useless. Forces a click through which iOS doesn't.
- Robert Scoble
@robert are there not third-party mods to change the notifications?
- Matthew Voshell
Matthew: I don't know. On iOS I don't need to do third-party crap.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert yea true.. so you're saying apple got something right?!?!
- Matthew Voshell
Yup. But Apple sucks because of the keyboard. Android, er, SwiftKey, is far superior for me.
- Robert Scoble
Danny Sullivan: please stand by. Tina is experiencing technical difficulties.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert What about google voice dictation? I use the google search app on my iPhone 100% of the time.. and i know it's builtin to the keyboard as well?
- Matthew Voshell
Matthew: voice is a wash. Google is better at some things, Apple better at others.
- Robert Scoble
have you done the pull to expand thign on notifications
- Kevin Marks
2-finger pull down on any one give you the same UX as the top one
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: yes. That just expands groups, like Gmail, into multiple messages. All single lines.
- Robert Scoble
@panel... I've been saying this forever... why dont you guys do this on a broadcasted google+ hangout?
- Matthew Voshell
Matthew: we should. If I ran this I would do that.
- Robert Scoble
I need to give Scoble my tweet notification app.
- Kevin Marks
Robert, you should ask Danny about his multi-device activity tracking. We're both doing this right now. I'm testing 4 activity trackers simultaneously right now Nike Fuelband, Jawbone Up, Fitbit One and Bodymedia Armband http://lifestreamblog.com/bodymed...
- Mark Krynsky
I'm using the Logitech keyboard for the mini. They ship quickly from Logitech. It's great but can't use a protective case for the back with it.
- Alex de Soto
But how does instagram pay off for young kids when they go to get a job in 10 years?!?! haha
- Matthew Voshell
Yea i think for events, organizations, these social networks are amazing... but for personal life? just building a case to not get a job or be trusted :/
- Matthew Voshell
Robert: Will kids run away from the contextual or embrace it?
- Alex de Soto
Alex: for a couple of years. Why? Price.
- Robert Scoble
But after the glasses get cool enough and cheap enough, we'll see kids use them too. Particularly for sports or concert videos.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert so it goes the way flat screen TV's have? Please tell me we dont become the people from Wall-E :(
- Matthew Voshell
My students (journalism) use Twitter, hate Facebook but still use it. Are amazingly tech illiterate and uncurious. Remember, outside SV, there's a whole other world
- Francine Hardaway
Facebook made the social graph too much the past you were
- clive boulton
Glad to see we aren't talking about SendGrid today.
- Darren
When Google Glass tells us what to do, and Google Cars drive us contextually to where they know we should be, will thinking be obsolete?
- Steven E. Streight
Kevin is at The Creamery in Sf. Oneof the loudest places in SF
- Tina Chase Gillmor
If its cool... does that mean is useful? i dont think they are mutually exclusive.
- Matthew Voshell
Twitter is for very short messages, not real conversations. What does that say about us?
- Steven E. Streight
The kids of the people on this call are NOT normal
- Francine Hardaway
I plan on limiting my kids tech usage growing up; kids nowadays get punish by having to go outside and turn off their xbox's; when i grew up and we were in trouble we WEREN'T aloud outside... :/ This pushes towards childhood obesity... is tech to partly blame?
- Matthew Voshell
Twitter conditions us for short bursts of talk, rather than what we had in blogs, longer communications in depth.
- Steven E. Streight
Matthew: yes. Technology plays a big part in obesity.
- Robert Scoble
Francine - not normal - true. but their friends are and it's the same
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I would agree that I've gained weight due to more time on the PC and eating late at night.
- Steven E. Streight
Maybe part of a bigger conversation regarding trust in cloud services is the bigger issue.
- Mark Krynsky
Hi everyone, just checking in because I miss you all. Am I late? I have been traveling a lot lately :)
- Charlie Isaacs
I have been experimenting with new curation and discovery tools like RebelMouse and Swayy to find stuff to read. I wonder if this type of discovery is going to replace systematic RSS reading of blogs.
- Laura Norvig
Will smart phones and tablets totally replace tower PCs? I doubt it.
- Steven E. Streight
twitter stopped supporting rss and atom because they, at the time, lacked capabilities to handle it
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Syndication is a necessity...regardless of what the technology ever iterates to. I still use RSS and will welcome whatever new technology comes to evolve it.
- Mark Krynsky
Google Reader with RSS was incredible ROI for Google. Not a lot of money for a lot of geek love.
- Kevin Bryan
RSS serves a very relevant B2B purpose (syndication) and there are no relevant alternatives. Until there is it isn't going anywhere. Proprietary APIs are not that.
- Darren
When does "content curation" turn into plagiarism and duplicate content?
- Steven E. Streight
Does google just have the balls to say No? Jobs was renowned for the ability say no.
- Matthew Voshell
Google Plus is not solving any of my information overload problems at all.
- Laura Norvig
Explore on GooglePlus has been demoted in the More tab.
- Steven E. Streight
I know a Government agency that leveraged Google Reader to dynamically parse feeds/information specifically related that Govt. agency. A young innovator built the app to save taxpayers money...oh well.
- Charlie Isaacs
I gain a lot more followers on G+ than on FB, but get more interactions on FB.
- Steven E. Streight
Robert's right. Discovery on G+ is very difficult
- Francine Hardaway
I have been getting incredible value out of a "secret group" nptech community of practice on Facebook lately. The trust in the group (of about 400) ripples out into public facing parts of Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn.
- Laura Norvig
It is hard to survive in business without being on LinkedIn
- Charlie Isaacs
Mike: really? Nearly every tech person I've ever messaged is on Facebook. They might not post often, but almost all are there. Except for the weirdos like Dave Winer and Ryan Block. And they are on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
To private message in G+ I have to go to my Gmail page, get on GTalk and hope the user is active at that moment?
- Steven E. Streight
Sounds interesting Laura. I'd be interested in that nptech group.
- Mark Krynsky
I found my job at Aol through linkedin, it showed me one of my friends that works there and had them submit my resume... boom! Very powerful
- Matthew Voshell
@Steven... yea you are making this more difficult than it needs to be; if you want instant messagin, sure gchat (prop across gmail and google+) or you can post a message only to them;
- Matthew Voshell
long-press the notification to get to the app setting menu to diabel that apps ones
- Kevin Marks
Tina, your job is secure ... I think
- Laura Norvig
I wonder if the average non-geeky user of G+ understands how to private message someone on G+ though....
- Steven E. Streight
I'm not "making it too difficult", I'm advocating better usability and intuitive functionality for average users of G+.
- Steven E. Streight
it's located directly below your "posting" section where it says "who do you want to share this with?" and you select either all people, a couple circles, or a couple people. It allows targeted "messaging" in a powerful way... just no one is on there to send it to ha :/
- Matthew Voshell
Yea, i NEVER post on linkedin really... I just see who' changing jobs and connected to people i'd like to keep tabs on for future job searches
- Matthew Voshell
Tech people seem to be very active on LInkedIn status updates. You have to click on Home to see the updates. Notifications are not implemented on your LI profile...?
- Steven E. Streight
Instead of autoposting, I do copy and paste, then make sure no truncation issues exist.
- Steven E. Streight
A smart phone would only fetch notification when the phone is slightly moving. If it's been sitting still on the counter for 30 minutes, why update notifications.
- Murray Macdonald
FBs convolutions likely due to MySQL under pinning, they really need a big graph database
- clive boulton
Android apps CANNOT modify or read the notifications as this would be a major security hole.
- Murray Macdonald
Im not using Foursquare that much. People dont need to know how many freaking times I'm at Home Depot
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Murray: I often set my phone on my desk for hours at a time, but still want notifications.
- John Mann
Speaking of Roku, i got the Roku 3... The headhone port on the remote is AMAZING... my wife is much happier with me :) But it has crashed twice in 3 days :/
- Matthew Voshell
Kevin: That's what the notification interface supports, but you can't create any alternative to it, nor can an app read notifications as this would be a huge security hole.
- Murray Macdonald
I got a Roku 3 too just for the Time Warner app which now enables me to return the HD Cable box I've been renting from them.
- Mark Krynsky
Tina, Home Depot should give you a kickback now.
- Laura Norvig
If GoogleGlass can alert you to a mugger approaching, by criminal record context, and what kind of weapon he has -- that would be useful.
- Steven E. Streight
Occulus Rift is what I want to try :)
- Mark Krynsky
That means it won't work in the sun, unless it is shaded like ski goggles.
- Murray Macdonald
it seems like seeing through it would be distracting to the way the brain processes stuff. Harder to read.
- Laura Norvig
someone tell Robert that he needs to drive 3 hours East to use thos
- Charlie Isaacs
Will Google Glass recognize facially someone you look at and link to their profile pages?
- Steven E. Streight
It's called google glass. see Steve... you want one.
- Murray Macdonald
@Laura not unless you want the heaphone jack to stream without bothering people; otherwise the new OS, which the new global serach is brilliant, will get pushed down to the older roku's soon enough;
- Matthew Voshell
there were so many product placements on this show. Sponsors, baby!
- Laura Norvig
Each one logs a different number of steps and different functions Mark, and none of them gives you actionable intelligence other than "do more." This is data, not information
- Francine Hardaway
Robert: Carry an extra battery that fits IN your phone.
- Murray Macdonald
I carry a Mophie and my Ford Sync charges my phone en route
- Francine Hardaway
I've been through 3 Mophie packs, the USB connector is very fragile
- Charlie Isaacs
Francine, there is definitely compelling stories about people getting competitive about their steps, though. Louis Gray is a fanatic. I think he cheats, though.
- Laura Norvig
Francine: I ran four marathons in high school so get that too.
- Robert Scoble
Francine, I can draw some interesting correlations and value from the reporting I get but I agree it can get better and I'm seeing some aggregation services that are starting to draw more actionable information as well.
- Mark Krynsky
Murray: yeah, solar doesn't work most days in half moon bay.
- Robert Scoble
Solar works great. I have a 6sqft solar power charging a 12v car battery. If I run it all the way down it takes two sunny days or four not-so-sunny days to recharge it.
- Murray Macdonald
Have a good weekend. Lots of fun. Chat room was rocking, too!
- Robert Scoble
Or we could talk about my drunken escapades at SXSW.
- Robert Scoble
Samsung? Did they do something this week? lol, that Radio City show was really cheesy!
- Tom Guarriello
Or we could talk about the death of Google Reader.
- Robert Scoble
Or we could talk about Facebook's new News Feed.
- Robert Scoble
No Google Reader jokes! I'm still in mourning...
- Tom Guarriello
Or we could just sit around and stare at each other. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Tom: I stopped using it in 2009. You gotta come into the future eventually. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Actually, as long as Reeder survives, I'll be fine.
- Tom Guarriello
I tell ya the new Facebook news feed blows away most things for me now. Can't wait for everyone to get it.
- Robert Scoble
You're funny, Robert. I can't do the research I to do with all that noise on Twitter, etc. I've got plenty of filters with lists, etc., but nothing beats reading those feeds in one place. At least not for me.
- Tom Guarriello
Tom: the Flipboard Cover Stories does that for me. That is getting better and better.
- Robert Scoble
But Facebook's new news feed is definitely eating into my reading time. By the way, you try Prismatic? That's rocking too.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: So with such a terrible Samsung launch are you still going to switch? Does anyone care that the launch sucked when it comes to buying the phone?
- Michael Roberts
Finished setting up my just.me profile, Keith.
- Tom Guarriello
So, the breathing is too loud, but the potato chip crunching is hunky-dory?!
- Evan Prodromou
Or you talk about how all these fake viral videos (like the recent pepsi ad) are getting tiresome. How long before people get tired of it and the hit count drops.
- Michael Roberts
Google glass is a great toy right now, but I suspect it will take a gen. 2 before I'd drop a real phone.
- Michael Roberts
Robert: I don't get it, do you have a special eyeglass lenses prescription for the Google Glass?
- Nir Ben Yona
Samsung did that last year with with their WiFi direct photo sharing...
- Murray Macdonald
When you consider that the Nexus 4 requires no contract, the competition gets even stronger.
- Murray Macdonald
I suspect apple will catch up on all the specs, but the problem for apple (at least in Canada) is android phones are cheaper in terms of plans than apple, and as Robert says google glass connecting better with android phones matters.
- Michael Roberts
I think the technology is advancing so fast, features are not as important as carriers, ecosystem, and connectivity to other devices. For now I'll stick with apple, but in a year maybe if google glass matures, and one cannot easily connect to google glass with an iphone, maybe getting android might matter.
- Michael Roberts
the better screen changes all the time, today samsung, tomorrow apple, next week, someone else. It will ebb and flow all the time. I agree with Gillmor.
- Michael Roberts
Apple could make an iPod Touch Maxi. 6 inch screen
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
I'd never swtich to Android because of Samsung, I'd switch because android's ecosystem becomes so strong with their google apps and glass integration. google apps and glass would be the only reason I'd switch away from an iphone, never for the phone itself which to date has never been as slick as anything apple has created.
- Michael Roberts
Having joined late, I apologise if you've discussed this topic, but what's your take on Samsung trying to move away from Google Android? Yesterday, it felt like Samsung is building dependence on Samsung branded software, so when they are ready with Tizen (or other alternative), they can switch without damage.
- Petr Faitl
Motorola will release one that size soon too
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: And so does the Sony Xperia T.
- Nir Ben Yona
not even google thinks motorola is building competitive phones
- Ludwig Ederle
Murray: I agree, but I think like many who have invested in Apple, it would take something like a google glass to be the tipping point. Clearly that's the case for Robert.
- Michael Roberts
Still waiting for the 7" Samsung Note
- Frank Paynter
Is there a Google product that has changed the game as much as Android in the last decade? In fact, since Google Search?
- Evan Prodromou
Nice that Dan is back in the tech fold but his bandwidth needs help ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Keath: I agree. I think if google really started to tightly integrate their apps with android, glass etc. the way apple does, I think would be amazing.
- Michael Roberts
The Smartphone Market has peaked. Rubin knows this
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Michael: Android already runs on your desktop if you install the emulator.
- Murray Macdonald
you can apparently run android on the chromebook pixel
- Kevin Marks
They're hedging. Why bet the farm on one platform?
- Murray Macdonald
Murray: I guess what I'm saying is why have an emulator at all. If you notice IOS and OSX more and more they look the same to the point where IOS is changing OSX more than the other way around. The same strategy could apply for google.
- Michael Roberts
Heads up display like the US military aviators have used for a couple of decades needs to find its way into the marketplace. So it goes.
- Frank Paynter
Having touch on the Chromebook Pixel is not competing with MS; it's just covering holes, and making sure bases are covered. You don't want someone else sneaking up on you and delivering a nice touch laptop experience and leave you in the cold.
- Kevin Bryan
These OS are just front-ends to the cloud. The cloud is stickier than a front-end client. Clients and client OSs will come and go while gmail and other cloud apps will persist.
- Murray Macdonald
These cloud/HTML only machines are VERY secure. They may find a market in the enterprise.
- Murray Macdonald
Compute in the cloud is the only way to do Computer Vision and Machine Learning for the next 5 years.
- Murray Macdonald
Chromium was the only OS not taken over at Pwn to own
- Kevin Marks
Right now, Apple is chasing Market Gaps in their Product Range. Bigger Smartphone Screens. Mini Tablets. Budget Overseas Phones. Tim Cook is taking Apple back to the pre Steve Jobs era, too many splintered products
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Keith: I agree, and the trend seems to be this UX experience is getting to be incredibly important.
- Michael Roberts
Glad it has no cell radio. That will significantly help the battery life.
- Murray Macdonald
Google has patents on eye tracking... It would be hard to compete without it.
- Murray Macdonald
L.L. Bean has a wearable tech shirt in the works
- Frank Paynter
Barcodes are passe. Computer Vision will recognize the object before you can touch it.
- Murray Macdonald
At last Google has found their Holy Grail. Eyeball Advertising right in your face!
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
"It was rumored that hackers for big media companies had figured out a way to get through the defenses that were built into such systems, and run junk advertisements in your peripheral vision (or even spang in the ... middle all the time - even when your eyes were closed. Bud knew a guy like that who's somehow gotten infected with a meme that ran advertisements for roach motels, in...
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- Kevin Marks
Try taking your gloves off in -10 on a chairlift. Oops dropped one...
- Murray Macdonald
I think we are winning at first world problems here
- Kevin Marks
boomers want things *now* - the next generation may reject all of this instant access and return to a more in-the-now experience
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I agree with Dan that this is beginning of the wearable computing. Apple will respond to Google at some point as well as others. The question is how far ahead is Google?
- Michael Roberts
I'm interested in Google Glass. But really dont know what it's going to be like in praticum
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm crying nerd tears for Google Reader right now. I use it every day!
- Kevin Bryan
It probably won't understand me any more than Siri does
- Francine Hardaway
We used eye-tracking to shut down kiosk displays when people look away 4 years ago. Also shut down the screen if someone was looking over your shoulder.
- Murray Macdonald
Focusing on Google Reader simply to consume feeds is short-sighted. There are 6,142 recipes on IFTTT.com right now https://ifttt.com/recipes... and many other people use it as plumbing for other functionality.
- Mark Krynsky
anyone publish/curate using scoop.it ??
- Frank Paynter
Activity Streams would be a welcome reboot Kevin.
- Mark Krynsky
Open sourcing or cloning of the Google Reader API that becomes distributed would be nice too.
- Mark Krynsky
Filtering and machine learning can solve that problem. You need to merge RSS, Email, Social Streams, SMS into a single filtered feed.
- Murray Macdonald
the mobile devices have higher res screens than the laptops we were using in 20005
- Kevin Marks
Smaller niche blogs will suffer. My blog still gets much referral traffic from Reader and Feedburner
- Mark Krynsky
Smart filtering needs to be a cloud service, not something managed by each respective feed. We all need to merge our feeds into a single targeted feed.
- Murray Macdonald
Flipboard is great to read, but I can't sort through 150+ news articles at a glance in Flipboard. Only Google Reader.
- Kevin Bryan
Everything is pushing us small bloggers away...
- Mark Krynsky
Feeds and SEO are becoming less important and becoming good at finding how to promote through social media has become critical so that you are funneled into the "new" news feed.
- Mark Krynsky
frank - but Steve is drinking out of his George Harrison glass
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Good. That way people can write their own filters.
- Murray Macdonald