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iPhone 2.0 first reactions - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Tate, Richard Peat, Cathryn Hrudicka and 14 other people liked this
Its cool to see some of these apps from a real users perspective. Very cool
- Bryan Clark
Anyone know about supply and demand? Are there expected to be shortages?
- Tim Steward
So since you're a monkeyballer are you making a new league?
- tony
Curious if you're going for the 3G Tomorrow... ;)
- Mac
Mac: yes.
- Robert Scoble
I wanna know how you got the 2.0 update already, special guy. I'm still getting the 8am message.
- Karoli
from twhirl
My son got it off of MacRumors, but the link has been taken down now.
- Robert Scoble
I've got it downloaded, but I don't want to get sued for putting it up.
- Matt K.
Going live with @leolaporte on *http://live.twit.tv and http://chris.pirillo.com/live/ in a few minutes, I guess? :)
Matt K., Adrian, Patrick Jordan and 3 other people liked this
I'm watching. Are you going to talk about Gnomedex speakers? Oh, and I need to talk with you. Yesterday I met some geeks you should have on stage at Gnomedex.
- Robert Scoble
12:20am seems like an odd time to do a live show. I know there is no "prime-time" on the web, but I'm about to go to bed.
- Nicholas Molnar
Nicholas: Leo Laporte is on for 24-hours straight. He'll be on for 10.5 hours more.
- Robert Scoble
Chris is now blowing on his Tengu. Now I've seen it all.
- Robert Scoble
That Tengu thing is cool...but $50?
- Chris
Most entertaining midnight hour in a long time
- Adrian
Yeah, that really was great. Thanks Leo and Chris! Damn you, you have already cost me $15.
- Robert Scoble
Nothing new in this video that hasn't been seen in the previous weeks or months on the web...
- Edoardo Piccolotto
from twhirl
Wow, @leolaporte has 6,000 watching live at http://live.twit.tv -- I'm one of them.
Igor Poltavskiy, Brooklyn Art Project, Chris Chua and 13 other people liked this
It's bloody impressive eh, i've been watching all night.
- Zee.
ur on the phone with him
- adolfo foronda
who's on with him?
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Haha, I am loving this live show. Fun. Scoble, call in!
- Dennis Jackson
Yep, Leo is the man
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Agreed, Chris. An incredible natural voice.
- Brad @ The Next Web
His voice is NOT natural, obviously on steroids or vocal chord transplant:)
- Grant
And Scoble mentions FriendFeed on twit live :)
- Gary Bacon II
Ruh roh. Let the server-testing begin.
- Brad @ The Next Web
Hadn't watched the show until I saw the post on Twitter and am now listening... Do you ever sleep? I thought I was the only one awake this late.
- Melissa Hourigan
Leo makes you all fall back, he's just that good at what he does.
- Tim Moore
does leo modulate through the amp or is that just him??
- Morgan
Pimp it out, Robert!
- Brad @ The Next Web
Dropping in as well...
- Ross Miller
Leo is awesome. Been watching him since ZDtv :)
- Gary Bacon II
Scoble is not speaking of the iPhone. Disconnect Leo! Disconnect!
- Tim Moore
Ooooh, the xRez stuff. LOVE these images. Such incredible work.
- Brad @ The Next Web
Leave Scoble Alone. XRez is a cool site. Plus it adds a little variety.
- Matt K.
Leo's got hours and hours to kill, i think he'll let anyone talk about anything at this point. He's going to keep doing this until 3 p.m. Pacific tomorrow! Soon I'm going to take a break and go to bed. Good luck Leo if you read this! I'll tune back in from work in the morning!
- Adam Turetzky
couple more ff plugs Robert :)
- Andrew Smith
Robert, was just listening to you on Leo's show. Nice job.
- Mike Doeff
Hahah...bring on the TWiT massive!
- Brad @ The Next Web
Good to hear you on the show Scoble :)
- Dennis Jackson
Thanks, that was fun!
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for the heads up about the Live Earth Thing. Couldn't see it thatnks to the TWiT Army DoSing it.
- Manu Ullas
from twhirl
Forgot he was doing a marathon show tonight... dropped in earlier for Woz - missed you Robert, couldn't get into room... off to sleep. But wowza 6k at 11pm Pacific on a 'schoolnight'? WTG Leo.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Wayyy too laggy for me. Bloody Australian internet speeds!
- Chris Dahl
What is leo's irc? BTW heard you too.
- eyeonpower
i was impressed w/the quality and speed of the stream. good segment robert
- Chris
My neighbor got a new iPod. She has Tiger. Apple says she needs to buy Leopard just to use her new iPod. That's unjustifiable greed.
Adam, Aaron Draczynski, Eric Geller and 8 other people liked this
That can't be right ... really?
- David Weiner
I agree with you Leo, that;s just wrong. Even Microsoft wouldn't do that.
- Tony C. Hall
Wow, if that's right, then that's really wrong.
- will killian
Tiger is a little harsh... But as a general rule, how far should they go back? OS9? Win 3.1? A little extreme I know but I know at least 3 people with iPods who still run legacy OS.
- Johnny
That's ridiculous. I highly doubt it has anything to do with compatibility with the software. Sound more like a Microsoft move.
- Matt K.
Requires 10.4.9 or later. Even though Tiger runs iTunes 7 just fine. There is absolutely no excuse for this.
- Leo Laporte
That's about the dumbest thing ever. When did Apple become like Microsoft?
- Margaret Kerr
from twhirl
I'm not so sure Leo. The tech spec pages all indicate iPods work with the latest update of 10.4. Might want to check up on this.
- Luke Hatcher
Capitialism is a bitch. Apple is in the business to make money and that is their bottom line. I don't see them rolling out an iPhone or iPod with removable storage (which wouldn't allow such large costs of upgrades to their customers). How easily we forget these companies are not nonprofit.
- rykos
from twhirl
"Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms, greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind."
- MG Siegler
10.4.9 is Tiger, isn't it? So no need to buy Leopard.
- Luke Hatcher
If your neighbor was told this it was by an ignorant "genius" because it is completely untrue.
- Sidney
yes, it is a tad outrageous; however, it does ensure the stability of the software...one of the many pitfalls of microsoft: supporting legacy software.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
That is just horrible! And to think that Apple had a heart!
- Michael Forian
having just purchased my first Mac, a MacBook Pro...go for it!
- Ryan
I use a mac, but I would NEVER ever accuse Apple of having a heart
- Deepak Singh
Sorry - I misspoke - she has Panther!
- Leo Laporte
Just one of the reasons that I don't like Apple as a company.
- xero
Panther? Really? You're upset about this?
- Randy
Absolutely - what is the technical reason it won't work with Panther? Panther runs iTunes 7 just fine. Is there some feature of 10.4-10.5 that the iPod requires?
- Leo Laporte
I'll bet it's a DRM issue. Something in fairplay requires a certain version level.
- Adam Turetzky
Yeah, unfortunately I'm not finding anything on the Googles. What about this? http://www.floola.com/modules... May not be perfect though.
- Randy
technical cat fight
- Susan Beebe
Is Quicktime still updated for Panther? On the other hand, I don't really see the greed there. It's not like Microsoft is still pushing Win2k or Win Meh ;-)
- Horst Gutmann
Same problem with down rev version of Windows. Bought a new iPod Nano 3G when they came out last year. Would not work on one of my old PC's running Win2K as Apple stopped supporting iTunes for the old MS OS. Had to use a WinXP machine to talk to the Nano.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Dude. It's Apple.
- Ⓒⓗⓡⓘⓢ Ⓟⓘⓡⓘⓛⓛⓞ
I think Apple are getting a little too big for there boots. This is utter greed and just makes no sense. I hope they don't become like Microsoft.
- Michael McGimpsey
from twhirl
yeah well, as the man said: it's a closed system. a bit like in the early days of industrialisation, when the owner of the factory also happened to own the only shop around.... so once you get in, there's no getting out.
- Günther Mulder
from twhirl
Have your friend get a Windows PC. That'll run the iPod. Hehe
- Adam Hechler
That's how Apple gets it money: screwing the consumer
- Outsanity
My 3g ipod works well with leopard, a shame that they are pulling those strings.
- Terry M. Powell
I confess I've mostly moved over to FriendFeed. http://friendfeed.com/leolapo... - it's busier but lends itself better to conversation.
Jay Neff, Mitchell Tsai, Czar and 76 other people liked this
I pulled the trigger. Sorry Twitter.
- Leo Laporte
I've added friendfeed to my social web, but I'm not giving up on Twitter yet. Thank goodness for Flock and ping.fm
- Steve Burton
looking forward to your conversations over here Leo.
- Thomas Hawk
I like the idea of friendfeed - but the simplicity of twitter is its appeal. I wonder where Pownce and Jaiku will sit in this msg evolution
- dann weatherhead
I have a feeling that this time things gonna better than the Jaiku move.
- Du Senyao Peter
i havent been able to make the move - are there twitteriffic-like apps for FF as well? that would help my jump...
- Andy Beach
I think twitter's UI is better and I wish there was something like twitterrific out there
- maxim shevertalov
from twhirl
This is funny, I just signed up for a twitter account. With what appears to be a mass exodus from twitter to other services, is there any point in me building up a network over there?
- Eddy Cole
I want to make FF part of my routine, but it's just so damn cluttered -- plus I don't see any mobile integration yet. It's almost there, but it just needs a little more work to really take the Twitter throne
- Noah Mittman
I remain a bit grumpyabout FF; I cannot shake the feeling that I am only here because Twitter failed me so many times. Anyway, here I am!
- sage brennan
from twhirl
Andy, try twhirl
- Graham Garland
The busy UI and lack of users put me off. Perhaps if it didn't try and link in with Twitter it would be easier to follow?
- Oli from the-iBlog
from fftogo
I have left twitter also, but now use Plurk. With the newly added search, I can find conversations about just about any topic.
- Jon
I am really liking FF for conversations. I like Twitter for status/presence updates. Isn't that what is was designed for? Want to know where I am, and what I am having for lunch? Check Twitter. Want to know what I am interested in and reading? Check Friendfeed.
- Sean Brady
Glad to see you over here in FF Leo!! welcome! BTW twitter pulled their own trigger - no guilt with that....just remorse
- Susan Beebe
If Twitter had a closed beta to better manage scaleability, but at a const of having a large user base, would it be as big as it is?
- maxim shevertalov
from twhirl
Is that it Leo you are off Twitter ? , ok kids grab the life jackets
- NA76
Leo, what is your preferred way of FriendFeeding? Post once via Twitter and resume the conversation via FF or some other way?
- Alexander Kucera
Leo, you are so fickle! I think you have TADD...Technology Attention Deficit Disorder. :)
- BISQ
Yeah, it's almost like Jaiku!
- Randal Schwartz
Welcome to the darkside
- Dave Peck
I'm trying that move too. A lot of info to sort so far
- Michael Leis
from twhirl
Leo, I violently agree. I think reliability is the killer asset.
- shelisrael1
I've done the same. Twitter is dead to me. LOL :P
- Grant Gochnauer
I just created a FF account too. It's a shame. I love Twitter.
- Matthew Vaughan
I don't get the big Hoopla. FriendFeed is a Commenting System and a Medium to get Content on. Twitter is a Messaging system. Sure you can (pressed enter here accidentally) 'switch over', but really, Twitter could be thought to be something completely different than friendfeed
- Tyler (Chacha)
from twhirl
I'd like to see more of my twitter friends using a "lifestream" commenting system like FF, or see Twitter turn reliable and then add a better threading system for replies.. but until someone gets their act together I am happy using something that has the capability to do very similar things. So I'm happy to be caught up in the current migration toward a meme that works. Update: and one that is editable;-)
- Curtis "Billy" Cross
from twhirl
Eddy Cole, the services are completely different. Try them both out. Many people, myself included, use both services. For some reason people want to make this a contest between Twitter and FF.
- Mike Doeff
@Mike thats what I've been trying to say, Twitter is a messaging service, FF is a Aggregator/Commentor. Very, Very Different
- Tyler (Chacha)
from twhirl
thanks Graham - I had no idea twhirl support FF as well!
- Andy Beach
@Mike, thanks. I'll give both a shot and see what happens.
- Eddy Cole
Chacha, totally agree. Baffles me why people continue to compare apples to oranges on this. This blog post is worth reading... http://www.winextra.com/2008...
- Mike Doeff
I am in the conversion process. And actually what it seems is that you don't have to abandon twitter, FF will just post for you
- Edward
I found myself doing this a couple weeks ago. Every time I wanted to go to twitter it was down, so I just started using ping.fm to post, and following all my feeds of FF. I agree with the ease of conversation on FF.
- Melissa Goetsch
FF definitely has some nice advantages over Twitter (or probably more over Jaiku for that matter) which people with tons of scattered content can benefit from. On the other hand there are still tons of features I'd love to see added here (esp. on an API level). In the meantime, FF just has to hit the web-mainstream ;-)
- Horst Gutmann
I would like FF a lot more if it pulled in my friends from other services. As of right now, all it really seems to do is aggregate my lifestream. I'm too lazy to manually add each rss feed to FF, and there's no way my friends are going to sign up for FF, after it was a giant PITA to get them to sign up for twitter.
- Austin Brown
Is there an iPhone client for FriendFeed? I do alot of messaging on the go.
- Robert Hafer
from twhirl
you have inspired me to check out FF too .. so far - I likey! Thanks Leo!
- Jenz
Robert: fftogo.com
- Andy Lewandowski
from twhirl
http://FFtogo.com was created by Benjamin Golub - a fellow FriendFeed user, who also created http://RSSmeme.com
- Susan Beebe
"but lends itself better to conversation.” could you quantify with your own experience as to what it means "Bettter conversation" ? We first had blogs /RSS , twitter , wownce which all seems to raise the bar on the converational index.. but what do you mean "better to conversation" wrt to FF ?
- Peter Dawson
On Leo! One! Chaud devant! --french people will understand ;-)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
@Austin That is what imaginary friends option in FF is for. You can add most of the services. There are several guides, linked to in this very thread and others available by googling that give you the info you need to set it up so they can have the freedom of using twitter, etc... and let you have the option of moving.. It doesn't have to be a competition between FF and Twitter. But if...
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- Curtis "Billy" Cross
from twhirl
Yep just found someone I follow on FF, don't on Twitter, and I thought, what's the point of following them on Tw? 8-\
- Brian Carter
btw Leo, you gotta read this too -- http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Peter Dawson
@Brian Carter was that person me ;) ? I think this weekend showed how friend feed can fill the void of being connected and following the thoughts of those who we have grown to trust online. Since then, I have noticed that the traffic on twitter (at least for me) has gone down significantly by the people I was following and didn't really know in person or know well. My inner circle are still using twitter and the mobile factor is still huge. The real question is can I still be active on FF while at work.
- Andrea Baker
Reasons desktop app for friendfeed is not as usable as webpage: 1. usually quicker to navigate high volume on web page. 2. desktop app will surely be chasing new functionality (i.e. retwitter comment feature on FF web but not in twhirl).
- Boris Gordon
from twhirl
Thank you, Andy
- Robert Hafer
hey Leo, you should try Friendfeed in Twhirl, just click on the Twhirl logo and add Friendfeed as a new account, already 5% of all the comments there
- Loic Le Meur
try identi.ca
- Tyler Gillies
I just wish FF had a way to dynamically collapse conversations for clear view of post titles. And then selectively expand the comments to see that conversation. It would be like a dynamic feed reader.
- Ernie Oporto
Al Gore - Engadget - http://www.engadget.com/2008...
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Jesse Stay, Mark Trapp, Matt K. and Christian Van Der Henst liked this
Al Gore - he may take credit for inventing the iPhone - watch out
- Thom Allen
Probably new environmental improvements.
- Brandon Titus
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