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Encryption Code for 80% of the World’s Mobile Calls Cracked - http://mashable.com/2009...
Roberto Bonini, Sue - Friendfeed is best, Tanath and Adam Martin liked this
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- Alma Moore
Me do not.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Any phone with an Edge connection & 64-bit encryption is crackable. 128-bit or 3G should still be okay.
- barce
from iPhone
Want to have live conversations like FriendFeed lets you, but better organized? http://livefyre.com/ is the way to go. Getting a demo now.
patrick, sofarsoShawn, Svartling and 24 other people liked this
here we go again?
- MiniMage
Just signed up around a week ago with livefyre. Have been more in listening mode but so far am really enjoying being able to really follow the live discussions.
- Jennifer Aderhold
You mean @replies are highlighted in blue? *mind blown*
- Johnny
Whee! Time to camp on another user account that I'll never use! Anyone up for some Wyld Stallyons action?
- Akiva
I can't believe Scoble would joke about this, now we really shouldn't listen to him.
- Jimminy
We asked for highlighted @replies yonks ago... despite not getting them, discussion hasn't been effected to much.
- Johnny
And now I have that stupid Billy Joel song in my head... DAMN YOU SCOBLE
- Johnny
Wow. That's ugly. I can't get beyond the ugly.
- Yolanda
Sorry, Robert, you're wrong.
- Mark H
Don't you mean, "hyperbowl" ;)
- Roberto Bonini
I definitely am stoked to see live conversations, organized, too -- but I lasted about 25 seconds on the site
- Christopher Galtenberg
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh I get it now... It's threaded Twitter conversations... except without using Twitter kinda... aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah... I wonder if it has the same 'noise problem' as FriendFeed does...
- Johnny
Looks like the type of site where the comments are going to be those of the YouTube variety.
- Yolanda
No time/date stamps, which made me a little confused, until I realized the comments were apparently last --> first
- MiniMage
Does it do machine translation?
- Sue - Friendfeed is best
UGLY! No time stamps, can only see one conversation at at time. It think I'll stay here thank-you-very-much!
- Jeff P. Henderson
There are currently no fyres about sex. This site is either fake or not of this Internet.
- Andy Bakun
Doesn't really compare to Friendfeed as one of the main features of FF is still that it is an aggregator of all things. But there are some nice ideas in there. Will definitely have a look at it again over the coming weeks, hoping they will clean up the interface a bit. To little screen estate for the actual conversation and too much clutter around it.
- Mike Hellers
FriendFeed Comment is the new Yelp Talk. This tweet is useless without screenshots.
- Tim Jones
Is this a joke? It should be called HeadAyche.
- phil baumann
It's ugly yes, but come on guys, say something new. The ability to break sub-conversations out is interesting. They should look at creating new rooms in IRC.
- Kartik Agaram
Also, it seems like the conversations are more like IMs between a small number of individuals, seems like a lot of noise and not much true value... Could just be the quality of individuals participating of course... Something to watch, much like Google Wave in 2010
- Chris Reichow
LOL. Was this designed in Front Page?
- Spencer
I remember when everyone thought FriendFeed was ugly.
- Robert Scoble
Like Friendfeed, Livefyre allows people to join in conversations, but I don't see how it's better organized. I like the idea of kicking somebody off the thread if he/she gets too unruly, but I'm afraid someone might abuse it in the future and the result would be a thread that only the originator of the thread would like. I would rather have haters on a thread to show a semblance of balance. Livefyre's a great tool and hope to see more improvements in the future.
- Robert Sanchez Jr
It's better organized because you can find conversations by tags. So I can see only tech conversations. Here on FriendFeed I see all sorts of conversations mixed together. Also, LiveFyre lets you have threaded conversations, which makes long conversations much more useful.
- Robert Scoble
Wait, you can still see after looking at that page?
- Jimminy
I think Robert's point is that FF lists only tag *people*, not conversations.
- Michael R. Bernstein
hmmm...Michael and Robert has a point there. It takes quite a bit of an effort to search for subjects/topics in Friendfeed/Twitter/Facebook as these seem to be more user-centric sites whereas Livefyre is more of a topic-centric. In Livefyre you can follow a topic instead of a person.
- Robert Sanchez Jr
Chris, you probably read it here: http://scobleizer.com/2009...
- Bruce Lewis
Interesting how many people are focused on the look rather than the substance. This site has a lot of potential.
- Josh Fialkoff
A comment to the effect that it was odd not to see a fire about sex impelled me to try to start one: "What do you think about sex? Join my conversation happening now on #LiveFyre http://su.pr/1LBCYf "
- Sue - Friendfeed is best
The site certainly needs UI help, but we're having a great discussion here: http://livefyre.com/?vrvBkX
- Josh Fialkoff
Tags? People have to actually *create* those, and conversations are too throw-away to really have that done well, and avoid spamming (witness hash tags). That said, I have a saved search here on FF that shows me entries that have "protip" in the content, and it updates live. FF not having threaded comments is actually an advantage, it keeps things on topic and encourages creating new root entries as things diverge, or creating a room to centralize stuff on a single topic.
- Andy Bakun
:)
- ★ Soner Gönül
They tried to have #journchat on it a little bit ago, and people seemed to have troubles with it.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Enuf Talk! I wanna see Pictures!!
- Billy Warhol
The homepage looks awful! But I'll give it a go...
- Kol Tregaskes
'Which one is better? FriendFeed or LiveFyre? Let's talk about it.' - http://livefyre.com/?YsrFsZ
- Kol Tregaskes
I'll wait for the new UI in 2 weeks, I don't see anything appealing at all.
- Kol Tregaskes
Ugly. Also unusable. Why is the actual talk box so narrow? Nothing like endless amounts of scrolling... I call fail.
- Otto
We should call this a ScobleRoll. He shamelessly pimps some site and we all flock to it to see what's going on only to find out it's utter rubbish. Next he'll be like, 'Hey, want to have a personalized site where you can share information with your friends while learning valuable web development skills? http://angelfire.com/ is the way to go. Getting a demo now.'
- Akiva
DO ANYBODY NO WHY SCOBLE IS USING A DEAD SERVICE TO PIMP ANOTHER SERVICE?
- Gunnyman™
gonna have to vote for FriendFeed - nothing that compelling on LiveFyre yet.
- Bill Sanders
Why wouldn't the illusive sex threads be called "bush fyres?"
- Jimminy
Here's all the conversations on FriendFeed: http://friendfeed.com/search... (all items with five or more comments). Just for anyone who is looking for a conversation. Me? I'm looking to get smarter. I wish there were a filter for smart conversations because most of these are, while entertaining, not making me smarter about anything.
Robin Good ITALIA, Ali BULUT, sofarsoShawn and 27 other people liked this
In fact, most of these conversations aren't even in English.
- Robert Scoble
so.... not in English= not smart? Maybe you could learn some of the languages. You'd be smarter then!
- Jim #TeamMonique
Jeremy: I used to think that too, but then I unfollowed everyone and changed my strategy. My lists are very good now for getting smarter.
- Robert Scoble
Jim: not in English = not making ME smarter unless I translate and, even then, finding good conversations is very difficult. Most of the conversations on FriendFeed are pablum, sorry. For instance, the item underneath this one on my screen reads "Just smashed a finger between a pair of 45 pound plates." OK.
- Robert Scoble
Clearly your definition of 'good conversation' needs revision. If you think that a conversation cannot be 'good' unless it makes you smarter than you have a worldview that's much too small. Yes, that's RAPatton with the smashed finger. If you knew anything about Robert then you might find that post to be significant. You might learn something about Robert and the many, many physical trials he's had to endure in his life.
- Jim #TeamMonique
Smart is not in what information you get, who you talk to. Smart is in how you use the information you get,
- Brian Sullivan
+++Brian
- Melanie Reed
Robert, thank you for sharing that information about smashing up one's fingers. Just the meme presenting itself into my conscientiousness so that it may be drawn up in some future potential accident with my hands may indeed help me by association to avoid it! :) It's not all useless.
- Melanie Reed
Jim: I don't want to talk about everything in the world that's happening to everyone. Maybe you want to talk about Tiger Woods and his problems or how someone smashed their fingers, but I don't. I'm looking for something smarter.
- Robert Scoble
Your request appears to be best handled by Google Wave these days since it is easy to lose threads in most other tools.
- Roney Smith
No Robert you are looking for something Techier which coincidentally does not equal smarter.. Different yes, smarter no. You are starting to act like that annoying person who keeps going to parties just to complain about everything. If you don't want to be here don't be here. I'm getting tired of your weekly friendfeed is dead bash on friendfeed thread.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
robert, what someone... (perhaps louis gray?)... could make is a lazy feed for friendfeed-style conversations. what do you think?
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
Google Wave is 100x more noisy and less useful than FriendFeed ever was.
- Robert Scoble
Rasmus: no, that isn't true. I read a wide variety of things. For instance, world news: http://twitter.com/scoblem...
- Robert Scoble
If you read that it's more focused and makes you smarter. Here? I don't find I'm getting smarter. I find I'm spending time having fun, maybe, but not getting smarter.
- Robert Scoble
Robert -- sometimes I think you are just full of it. Have you ever actually used Google Wave?
- Brian Sullivan
Brian: yes. I have hundreds of conversations open in Wave and it totally sucks. If you get value out of it you must either have only a very small group of people you collaborate with (I don't have that luxury) or you must be a better person than I am.
- Robert Scoble
Robert you could not have missed my point more than you did. I'm done though... sorry. I like you but you just do not get it.
- Jim #TeamMonique
MIT Courseware is a good place to go to get smarter Robert... http://ocw.mit.edu/ --- since when has FF been a place to go to get smarter... twitter sure isn't doing that either is it?
- Chris Heath
Wave is not for conversations it is for collaboration -- so what you are saying is the way you use it it sucks -- maybe because you don't know how to use it?
- Brian Sullivan
Pffft. Not only do most conversations on here or Twitter not make you smarter, some actually cost you money: "Scoble is an egotistical fatso."
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Brian: even if you know how to use it it becomes noisy very quickly and you can't easily get back to the value that someone left in a long thread. OK, I guess from your message that you only have five people in your Wave. Then it's OK.
- Robert Scoble
Well, some of the stories on that list will probably help expand one's way of thinking... but Kim Kardashian and bed picnics? Knitting Icelanders? Seems there's a relative amount of fluff on that list as well, from the brief glance I gave it. Expand your brain all you want, Robert, it's an excellent idea. But don't discount the play factor in learning... which appears to be kind of what...
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- Bette Cooper
WorldofHiglet: I just sent my $100 to the Food Bank. Was worth every penny.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, if your looking to get smarter then get off the internet and go read a book. Or stay on the internet and go to websites that provided educational material. I'm so sorry that we don't provide you with the knowledge that you are seeking....
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Bette: there's always fluff. But now I don't need to dig through fluff on top of fluff. :-) Here I'm faced with both the fluff (and, sorry, compare the link above to the world news link and you'll see there's more fluff here) but here I need to deal with the conversation fluff too.
- Robert Scoble
When my brother decides to step in the poo, he certainly splashes it all over.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Jim: whatever. You obviously get value out of this kinds of conversation. I don't.
- Robert Scoble
Alex: I love giving people here what they want: a conversation. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Mathew: I read books too (even have a Kindle so I can buy most anybook and read it immediately), but they make me smart about something that happened 12 months ago (or longer).
- Robert Scoble
Robert, this isn't the kind of conversation that most of us are looking for. We are looking for fun or meaningful conversation. This here, is accomplishing anything more then wasting time.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Ok Robert I feel I need a disclaimer here... I was one of the Scobleites that followed you here, I stayed around though since I found it interesting. But yes you gathered a list on world media, that list though is not you or your conversations.... But look at your twitter feed, your conversations are 90%+ tech.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
So where's the guy who wondered where all the conversations have gone? Look at this one... the fine art of avoiding heavy objects, and how to fling poo in a civilized manner. Now that's a conversation! :D
- Bette Cooper
Is this your monthly Friendfeed slam? If so, thanks, see you in January.
- Kenton
Looking to get smarter, or looking to feel superior? I'm allergic to condescension and this post almost killed me :P
- Lo
Lo: :-)
- Robert Scoble
Lo: the thing is the traffic here has NOT been going up and I'm trying to communicate why. Most people look at FriendFeed and don't see the conversations. Then, if they do find the conversations they see a bunch of noise. FriendFeed is fun for my brother, but not for people like me who are looking for something more specific.
- Robert Scoble
Rasmus: my output is mostly tech, because that's mostly what I want to talk about, yes. But my inbound is much wider than that.
- Robert Scoble
Good luck finding what you are looking for on Twitter.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Alex: I already found it on Twitter. It's easy with lists.
- Robert Scoble
So Robert, in order for some of us to actually learn something; What do you, or any of us, gain by you coming here periodically and posting what is wrong with Friendfeed and the community? It seems to me that if you are looking for intelligent conversation you wouldn't just troll for comments, you'd actually start something worthwhile.
- Kenton
Kenton: it's fun. Oh, so you are admitting that some conversations are more fun for you than others? EXACTLY MY POINT!
- Robert Scoble
And I keep coming here, seeing the noise, and it makes me grumpy. Just like I'm making YOU grumpy! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Why does it make you grumpy? Because you see it as noise and others don't?
- Bette Cooper
Bette: yes. I see noise and not much signal. Makes me grumpy. But, worse, it explains why traffic numbers here have gone down.
- Robert Scoble
Kenton: and, as for starting something, I've already done that: my own filtered feed: http://twitter.com/scoblei... -- I wish I could do something like this here, but FriendFeed never got to it.
- Robert Scoble
TRAFFIC has not gone down! Traffic has gone up! Us American folks don't make a website! The people of the world make a website!
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
The reason it makes me grumpy is that I don't appreciate people who drive by and fling insults and tell us all that we're doing something wrong. The community here on Friendfeed works for the people who want it to work. If you're only doing it so you can have fun, have it at someone else's expense. Oh, here's a list of all the conversations (5 tweets or more) on Twitter. Oh, wait, how do I do that? How about Facebook? Oh, hmmm, can't do that there either.
- Kenton
Mathew: that doesn't match the statements I've seen from traffic sites. Would love to see URLs proving traffic has gone up.
- Robert Scoble
Isn't becoming better a nobler goal than being smarter? Smarter as a goal is solipsistic. Better as a goal encourages well roundedness and non means oriented connections with other people.
- Todd Hoff
Kenton: it takes two people to have a conversation. If you don't like the insults, don't pay attention to them!
- Robert Scoble
hmmm one man's turd is another mans gold... As I said before why do you come here if you don't like it and it makes you grumpy. To me that sounds quite masochistic... How are we to gauge your conversations? Conversation by definition takes two.. So what comes in through your lists can't exactly be said to be conversations you are taking part of. Your feed on the other hand can...
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Todd: that's cool, but I'm already listening to 1,300 on Facebook, 16,000 on Twitter, and something like 15,000 here. How many more voices do I need to listen to before I become "better?" Me? I'm ready to narrow my focus to people who are actually teaching me something and making my life more interesting.
- Robert Scoble
Here you go. http://www.alexa.com/siteinf... Now I do want to say that traffic does go up and down. But, it is easy to see that Friendfeed is on a upward trend.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Rasmus: I keep getting pulled back here because some of you take my name in vain.
- Robert Scoble
Mathew: Alexa is well known to be very inaccurate. Quantcast is the one that most people use as real numbers.
- Robert Scoble
As noted earlier, also seems language is proximate fundamental limiting factor. Really need Ubiquity add-on or some similar magic to do on the fly translation, (think Aunt Rosy Wavebot style). Seems next major limiting factor on expanding knowledge and integration of global cognition grid is language. This is fundamentally doable with today's tools, but nobody seems focused on making it happen in a way that we can all start teaching the GCG how to translate more accurately, understand slang, etc.
- michael silverton
Well, when I goto Quantcast and see "rough estimate" that doesn't work for me. I want to see something that looks solid. But, whatever, I'm done. No one is going to satisfy you with whatever they bring to you.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Jeremy: truth is, I do like the site, but haven't liked it as much lately because everytime I come here I see noise, even on the lists I hand made.
- Robert Scoble
No, you haven't found it on Twitter because it's not possible to have conversations on Twitter. And I doubt it will ever be possible. Twitter is like the modern equivalent of beepers. There's nothing there. Seriously.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Mathew: 20% of traffic comes from Turkey. I could care less about traffic there.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Funny thing is I like what you do on twitter, I even follow most of your lists on there, but the persona showing up here seems so very different.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Alex: really? I have conversations all the time on Twitter. I post a URL to my blog and on my blog I have Disqus, which lets me have conversations. Or, we link here, like we do for Gillmor Gang.
- Robert Scoble
"How many more voices do I need to listen to before I become "better?" - is better defined by information absorbed or actions of quality taken?
- Todd Hoff
I use FriendFeed to start smart conversations - I don't need to find ones to join, but there are those, too. I post them to Twitter, then continue them over here.
- Jesse Stay
You may careless about the traffic there. But those who own and run Friendfeed care about ALLLLLLLLLLL traffic, not just US based traffic.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Alex, Twitter can be the start of the conversation.
- Paul Harvey
Todd: Better is hard to define. Some people think better is having Turkish conversations. I don't.
- Robert Scoble
I call it weeding the wheat from the chaff, Robert. FF is an excellent place for relaxing, for finding stimulating tidbits that lead to other things... and for getting a good laugh after a hard day. Oh... and for taking your name in vain... you make it far too easy. :-p Dude, you get what you give. The way it works. You want good stuff, give it. You want laughs, don't ever change....
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- Bette Cooper
Mathew: the people who own and run FriendFeed don't care about FriendFeed. They run a little site named Facebook. You might have heard of it.
- Robert Scoble
I've had some great conversations with David Recordon, Chris Messina, Dewitt Clinton, Cristo, Otto, Stephen Mack, Atul, Steve Gillmor, and more and I don't have to worry about losing the organization of the conversation over here. There's still nothing better, but it's your responsibility to make those conversations happen. I can't do what I can here over on Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
By definition you aren't having conversations on Twitter. I get way more participation here than I ever will on Twitter even though I'm sending the same stuff there. Twitter just sucks. There's no way for you to say that it doesn't. It's popular, but that in no way shape or form makes it a viable alternative to friendfeed.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
You may think that but I don't. And unless you can show be proof to support your statement then I'm not changing my mind. Because if they didn't care about Friendfeed it all it wouldn't be here.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Jesse: true. That's why I link to the Gillmor Gang over on Twitter (I link here).
- Robert Scoble
Alex: you're just as delusional as me. It's a Scoble trait! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Most normal people would say we're both wrong and they point to Facebook as proof.
- Robert Scoble
It's incredibly hard to talk intelligently in 140 characters, and even harder when the conversation isn't organized.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: when I need more than 140 characters I blog and post a URL. It works. :-)
- Robert Scoble
You know what, I'm hiding this post. I'm done, because all it is doing is angering me and wasting my time.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
I have intelligent conversations on Facebook as well - see a few of the conversations (not near as many as here) over at http://facebook.com/stay
- Jesse Stay
Mathew: now you know why I bitch. I come here, see all sorts of noise and it makes me angry so I lash out.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, but your blog doesn't thread underneath the Tweet like my responses do here. If I need anything longer than this, then yes, I blog.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: Facebook is definitely becoming more interesting.
- Robert Scoble
Jeremy: I tried for 18 months to get everyone to use FriendFeed. I failed and will continue to do so because most people don't want to have conversations with people they don't know. That's the secret sauce on Facebook. You know everyone you talk with (mostly).
- Robert Scoble
http://www.quantcast.com/friendf... stats, mostly US. And from Compete.com: http://siteanalytics.compete.com/friendf...
- Robert Scoble
Twitter has its place as well - don't get me wrong, and there are many smart people there to learn from, but as far as continuing that conversation, I can have much more intelligent conversation here than I can there. I wish more people used a combination of the two, or at least turned on e-mails so they get responses to their FriendFeed shares.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: email bacn is horrid. I turn off email notification from all social sites.
- Robert Scoble
Sounds to me like you need to prune your feed again Robert so you only get the stuff you like, in the language you like from the countries you like.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
"Better is hard to define" - Better in this context is your personal goals, that is being smarter, not the thread language choices :-)
- Todd Hoff
maybe FF'ers are a bunch of know-it-all type of people.,.... therefore they need not get smarter ;)
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
hey everyone... forget this nonsense... watch the TWiT holiday special with Coulton and Hodgman - http://friendfeed.com/twit-co...
- Chris Heath
Gotta run, gang. Keep up the great work. I'm trying to make this Mozilla Raindrop thing work http://mozillalabs.com/raindro... -- YAARF? (Yet Another Aspiring Relevance Filter) Feedly's doing great, but needs Open Calais rockin' and aforementioned realtime translation. ;-) Onward!
- michael silverton
Jeff: heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, FriendFeed replies aren't bacon - it's the only way I can stay organized.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: I would get too many of them to make them at all useful.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, understood, but most people wouldn't, and should keep it enabled. Or find some way to know when people are responding to their posts.
- Jesse Stay
Anyway, I just checked out the link here again that I started this whole conversation out with and, boy, is it exciting! Not. Oh well, see ya again soon for more self loathing.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, sounds like you need to set up some lists ;-) The guys I named are a good start.
- Jesse Stay
The other thing that doesn't make sense with this conversation is you couldn't even do the search you did on Twitter. What would Twitter return if you could track responses to original Tweets that are greater than 5?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: one of the major reasons I keep coming back here is for the search. Twitter is rebuilding its search from scratch, so it'll be interesting to watch in 2010 (so is Facebook, btw).
- Robert Scoble
Jesse: I spent hundreds of hours organizing my lists here on FriendFeed. I find all I need to do is track you because you get involved in almost every interesting tech conversation here.
- Robert Scoble
They'll need to implement threaded conversations for a search like that to work. I'm listening though.
- Jesse Stay
Well thanks Robert - I use it as a tool. I wouldn't be using it if I didn't find it productive, which is why I get involved in interesting conversations. You know all this stuff better than I though so I know I don't need to convince you.
- Jesse Stay
Worried about getting smarter? Read a book. *says the Librarian, in a "the more you know" voice ;)
- ωαřмaiden ❤Marrit Woman❤
Archangel: books are nice for knowledge that's 12 months old (or older). It takes that long to publish the damn things.
- Robert Scoble
true. but it's a good in-depth supplement to the quick-hits of 140-character discussions. Plus, political theory - what's currently on the nightstand - isnt exactly on an expiration date (not often at least). ;)
- ωαřмaiden ❤Marrit Woman❤
For the record, twitter trending topics are #oneofmyfollowers , #ghettobabynames , #nowplaying , #thoushallnot , Jersey Shore , #p4a , Colts , #DavidArchuletaLive , Xmas , #omgfacts
- Bruce Lewis
Robert, if Jesse's in all the conversations interesting to you, just save this search: https://friendfeed.com/search...
- Bruce Lewis
My eyes sorta glazed over about half way down this thread, sorry... but I just wanted to correct something mentioned above about "traffic" being up. Alexa says "Reach" is up but "Pageviews" are down about 20% since August http://www.alexa.com/siteinf... And that's global stats. US only is a whole 'nother conversation. Whether "traffic" is up or down depends on how you define traffic... and what you're trying to prove.
- Ken Sheppardson
Here's what wolfram|alpha says http://friendfeed.com/ccheath...
- Chris Heath
With each conversation, I learn a bit more about those to whom I am subscribed and I hope they learn a little something about me. I am quite happy with that.
- Michael W. May
There are three major aspects of any social network: Relevancy, Technology and Community. FriendFeed has the best technology, period. The community is also excellent. The difference here is that it has changed from 12 months ago or 24 months ago. When I visit FriendFeed, I am not looking for the deep technical conversations we used to have because the community more accurately reflects...
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- Louis Gray
For Robert, who is a good guy even though at times he can be misunderstood or frustrating, this change in community has decreased the site's relevancy. Couple that with an unclear future, and he is doing what is right for him. I could make some quip about how Robert needs to get smarter more than most of us, but I won't. :)
- Louis Gray
Johnny, without invalidating the above, I would suggest that you are part of the "new-ish" community that joined after FriendFeed's initial 6+ months. Yes, many of the people Robert and I consider peers and friends who used to engage in the deeper tech talk here have left, but other great folks like you made the place a whole lot of fun. You just have to see what I like or comment on to...
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- Louis Gray
Yes Louis we all get that... What we don't get is why he keeps returning just to lay a brown one every two, three weeks. If he doesn't like it here, he doesn't have to say so again and again. He can just mosey along and think back on the good times. Being the "biggest fanboy" does not give you the right to then come back and be annoying after leaving. We all heard him the first time, if not second or third..
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Rasmus, I am explaining the behavior, not endorsing it. :)
- Louis Gray
I know Louis :-)
- Rasmus Lauridsen
I don't understand why you think that social networking sites that encourage people to post all the small mundane things in their life is the place to go to find an abundance of intelligent tech discussions. I would think a busy forum whose focus is on tech, inhabited by intelligent people, would be a better place to find what you are looking for. For me that happens to be the forum at...
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- April Russo
Good recommendation, April - thanks!
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
michael silverton (way up this thread ^ ), you mentioned on-the-fly translation tools? - I created them (not in Ubiquity, but Greasemonkey/Greasekit): http://translatorize.com - implemented for Friendfeed, Facebook, Twitter and Identi.ca
- Micah
Back when Robert was 'getting value' out of FF, he mentioned it (the first implementation was for Friendfeed): http://friendfeed.com/fftrans... .... hey, the Scobleizer blog post link is dead! So by my count: Friendfeed *not* dead, blog post dead (Seriously, I looked in the archives, Robert, but I don't see it? Did some stuff get lost when the site was hacked months back?)
- Micah
Micah, I linked to it from my "FriendFeed's Fine" post - it's here: http://scobleizer.com/2009...
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, you're checking the wrong one. It's http://scobleizer.com/2009...
- Micah
Oh, you're talking about one of the ones where he said it wasn't dying. A lot of that stuff got deleted when he was hacked, which is probably the case for that one.
- Jesse Stay
*slow-mo-facepalm*
- Micah
Why not look to exercise your brain at least rather than having to get "smarter"?
- Michelle Matthews
unexpected connections is what make your brain expand, hearing the same stuff from the same people is enervating...
- WarLord
what a noisy dumb post
- james
Oh vey. It is what it is fluid and alive. :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
This thread isn't making me any smarter ;)
- Jason Williams
from iPhone
FriendFeed has evolved, just like every other site out there. Perhaps at one time, it was a forum for techies. Now, not so much. You and those techies went somewhere else to fill that info void. Meanwhile, others joined FF for the social interaction. Not understanding why you keep coming back here to stir the pot. It's not for you any more. That's fine. Let it go. There are discussions here; they just aren't topics in which you're interested. I read lots of spirited political discussions. >>>
- rowlikeagirl
As for the bigger picture, I'm seeing FF turn into another aggregation site. Not a criticism, just an observation. ((((returns to watching Turkish animated GIFs)))
- rowlikeagirl
Robert , indeed,you shouldn't be in need to look smarter.I ,and many of your followers think you are smart.Here's what you read : @scoblemedia/world-news-brands .Some more can be added to this list.But your time will not be enough.Keep up the good work please...Thank You,and Best Wishes...
- Dedegi
I just ate a mango. The problem of infinitely multiplying narcissistic minutiae in social media. The solution: ultra-smart news filters and recommender systems. (And a big wave to Akiva Moskovitz, my biggest fan on Friendfeed.)
- Sean McBride
News recommender systems: what are the most important remarks made by the most important people on the topics I most care about? Sort them by priority, please. One wishes that Friendfeed had taken an interest in this technology but, alas, no.
- Sean McBride
"I can always make you smile" http://i171.photobucket.com/albums... :)
- Citronella still FFing
Public conversations of every conceivable variety should be able to coexist comfortably in social media space, without any conversation impinging on any other conversation. What we need are the software tools to discover, prioritize and manage those conversations that are most interesting to each of us individually. There is really not much point in complaining about conversations that are not interesting -- simply don't pay attention to them.
- Sean McBride
" I wish there were a filter for smart conversations because most of these are, while entertaining, not making me smarter about anything" ~ http://news.ycombinator.com
- Peter Renshaw
Robert, I have taken it upon myself to help grant you your wish with this hashtag: #HelpRobertScobleGetSmarter
- April Russo
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Robert Scoble didn't make FriendFeed. FriendFeed was already here. People were using it. Scoble showed up and brought thousands of his minions. They clogged up the feed for a few months. Some of them weren't total Scobleites and stuck around. The rest bounced when he did.
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To hear people talk about FriendFeed's high point being related to Scoble really bothers me. I think R. Scoble is a cool dude, but he isn't and wasn't the God of FriendFeed by any useful measure in my book.
- Rahsheen
Plus, I think I've had more meaningful discussion and engagement from his brother here. :)
- Rahsheen
Totally agree.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
But, ever since he pretty much declared Friendfeed dead he has been saying that since he "left" friendfeed has gone down hill.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Thanks Rah! I do understand Scoble's (apparent) complaint, though: the alpha-geeks and uber-nerds (and people that orbit around them) that **he** follows -- because he's a tech blogger/media person and that's how he makes a living -- aren't participating here as much, nor are the founders, who also happen to be part of that alpha-geek set, participating here as much as they once did, if at all.
- .LAG liked that
Johnny I realize that, but I'm trying to say that the way he acts makes it seem like he thinks he put the nail in the non-existent coffin of Friendfeed.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
i dont know why he just doesnt make a discussion board for himself and getting all his fans join that.. solve his problem then...
- Terry O'Fee
Wait. You mean Scoble didn't invent Friendfeed? Doesn't the fact that he invented the Internet mean, by extension, that Friendfeed exists because of him? :)
- DAMMIT, MR. NOODLE
Agreed Johnny. I'm not really blaming Scoble, it's comments from others that get on my nerves. I should have clarified that initially. I can't say that he's ever called himself the master of FriendFeed or anything....
- Rahsheen
I guess for me it is just his actions as they appear through the tubes.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
...haha! no, silly, he didn't invent Friendfeed, but as with many things, some people have a great talent for popularizing stuff and launching trends. In the Silicon Valley tech world, Scoble has a huge audience and some level of influence, and he certainly brought a lot more attention to Friendfeed than it was generating on its own. I guess the question is: can he take away just as much attention by pronouncing its last rites? Rahsheen doesn't seem to think so.
- .LAG liked that
Not wanting to be a Scoble lover but I have come to realise that Robert isn't a normal user. His job and personality drive him to be where the biggest audience is. He promotes his sponsors and discovers small things and tries to promote them. He has to be cut throat because he is pitching to a cut throat audience of early adopters and techies. The key is not to take it personally, because it's not about users, it's about new, popular and promotions.
- Johnny
from iPhone
With Scoble gone, I think FF is back where it was before he came. For many users who have stuck around, nothing has changed. For some, they're feed is less cluttered from Scoble's huge following. No, he can't kill FF by pronouncing it dead. Let's say I frequent a bar and some celeb brings his entourage. The bar will probably make a lot of money that night, possibly get some publicity or something, but when he leaves...it's business as usual. Doesn't really matter if he liked the drinks or not.
- Rahsheen
Johnny W... well-said. For me, it just makes me realize how strange the world of "technology media" really is. On the one hand, Scoble is a sort of journalist, and if that's true then it would be reasonable to expect complete objectivity on his part: when he says something perhaps it should be fact-based and not an opinion. But on the other hand he, and the Techcrunches, ad infinitums...
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Rahsheen... I like the bar/celebrity analogy. Also, similar to Mark DBJ, I actually enjoy Scoble's contributions to the techmediascape, and I have no problem with him speaking his mind, but his participation (or not) never affected what I'm doing here, what I will do here, or even how I found FF in the first place.
- .LAG liked that
To be fair, Robert was following people away from FriendFeed, not leading them.
- Bruce Lewis
Exactly, .LAG! I like to see him around and usually read/listen to what he says, but I'm not one of his sheep. He has quite a few of those and I wonder how he feels about that :)
- Rahsheen
I think Robert's ego often gets in the way of any value he provides. I know he's usually creating controversy to link bait, but his vanity tries my patience more often than not.
- Mark Davidson
:-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
<- Not a 'Scobleite', unless it's an AlexScobleite, he's an ok guy.
- Will Higgins™
Robert is so "mignon" ;-))))
- Desirade
Bruce is the most right on this thread. Since Facebook bought FriendFeed I've gotten 14,000 new followers on Twitter. That alone would put me at #6 on FriendFeed's user list, which is a great demonstration of why I'm investing a lot more of my time on Twitter now. FriendFeed is fun for a small group of people and that's OK. But I am spending my time where the geeks are and that's mostly on Twitter or Facebook (which I'm ramping up time on too).
- Robert Scoble
Many of those who have been paying attention do share one observation about why people have migrated to Twitter: it's so we can post links to drive traffic back to our own sites or employer's sites. This, I continue to advance, is because neither FF or FB or anyone else has yet got it through their thick skulls that WE ARE THE CONTENT ... or, if they do understand that basic fact,...
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- michael silverton
michael: good point! The real problem here is that conversations that are interesting to each of us are buried amongst conversations that really aren't.
- Robert Scoble
Clearly, your usage of social media is going to vary significantly if you're not actually trying to sell anything.
- Victor Ganata
Good point, Victor. Many people just want to chat, have fun, maybe meet someone or learn something new. Yet, even in those cases, I'm of the mind that we're all selling something: our thoughts, our perspectives, our ideas, our sincerity. However, one need not share this perspective to see that you and I and Rah and everyone here create the value of sites like FB and FF. It's the...
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- michael silverton
Robert: as so often, you nail it. Mozilla Raindrop? :-)
- michael silverton
*shrug* I also don't expect to make money off of everything I do. (If I did, I certainly wouldn't be in the field I'm in.)
- Victor Ganata
FriendFeed Launches Status Update Sync to Auto-update Facebook - http://staynalive.com/article...
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I've got to figure out how to kill that Tweetmeme image. I keep forgetting.
- Jesse Stay
I told you how over here: http://staynalive.com/article... Let me know if you need any assistance with it, I've done similar stuff before.
- Otto
Yeah - I know how. What I meant is I need to figure out how to find time to fix it.
- Jesse Stay
Navigatepartner: RT @MarketingHits: As Online Music Falters, Pandora Doubled To 40 Million Users This Year. http://om.ly/dFIS - http://twitter.com/Navigat...
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Tumblr’s Seasonal Offerings: Backup App, Foreign Flavor & Tweetie Tie-in - http://mashable.com/2009...
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Why Tiger (or you) should NOT talk to cops (watch the two videos on top of Google here): http://www.google.com/search...
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Thanks Robert. Was looking for a write up. I can read about it faster than watch 27 minutes...but apparently no one had anything to say. ;)
- Melanie Reed
Melanie, to save you the 27 minutes: "don't talk to police. no. matter. what."
- Chris Heath
Thanks, Chris!
- Melanie Reed
Why is Twitter better? The BBC didn't link to Tiger's statement, which is here: http://web.tigerwoods.com/news...
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Embarrassing photo meme. That's me on the left, DJ Jack Friday on the right.
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Well played, sir!
- Josh Haley
Wow Leo, that's vintage and precious.
- RODNEY OLIVER
Whoo, Leo! Way to mix it up with the common folk!
- Akiva
That photo is WIN!
- Eric - Too Hot
When is that Leo? I'm guessing 1978 or so?
- Michael R. Bernstein
Slow and clear.. and with a blue vest
- Rhys Amos
Woah...he MEMED! respect
- MiniMage
Dear Leo, I love you to death, however, please let your darling daughter know Monaco is not an island off the coast of France and yes, Monte Carlo is the capitol. My daughter is the same age and we are starting to shop college's as well. I wish you the best of luck finding a school that suits her well. I was an exchange student as well and found it the best experience ever!
- Jennifer Ragde
Okay, now my computer politically correct daughter is telling me this was not the correct way to state my opinion as I should have commented on the photograph. I'm really sorry, I love to listen to your broadcasts, but I really am computer retarded so please forgive me if I have transgressed in any manner. I can't even upload photographs without her help! Really, you don't look dapper,...
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- Jennifer Ragde
LOL Jennifer and +1 for your daughter. :)
- Josh Haley
You look so dapper, Leo!!
- Mona Nomura
go leo!
- sean percival
That's awesome
- Jesse Stay
lookin good ..
- Saad Kamal
Outstanding, Mr Laporte. You can see the in dream there. Potential and promise sporting a tank-top.
- Dan Biddle
Those pants look like they may be restricting blood flow a little bit... Also, sweet chalk board! Haven't seen one of those in years!
- Mark
I hardly recognised you. It maybe your outfit but you look older in this photo
- Kevin J Hatton
Taken at a radio station? (based on blackboard notes) Wait. BLACKBOARD??? Wow. :)
- Curtis (a) Jackson
Excellent sweater vest there, Leo!
- John Lutz
That's on handsome man! lol
- Melissa Goetsch
Leo, you were one hot stack if pancakes back in the day!!
- Erik Boles
Not to nitpick or anything, but Monaco is the name of the state and the capital city. Monte Carlo is just one of city's administrative areas :)
- Dorian
It's 1985 or 1986. I was 28 or 29. And an utter dork.
- Leo Laporte
This vintage is good stuff!
- Jackie Miao
not vintage but funny - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Mike Bracco
Okay. Leo you rock! Let me get that out of the way. But you look like Susan Boyle in this photo. Sorry, someone had to throw it out there. ;-)
- Oracio
LEO: if this was a family photo I think it might make it on to the hilarious site that aggregates awkward family photos: http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/ must check this out! :)
- Mike Bracco
Not a family photo - it's a work photo. That's from KLOK-FM San Francisco.
- Leo Laporte
Leo: I know, I was just saying if it was :)
- Mike Bracco
What's that funny lookin thing in the background?
- Daniel James
Daniel.. I think that is what was known as a monochrome display. They were all the rage back then apparently.
- Rhys Amos
Your hair wasn't even real back then! :P
- Kreg Steppe
I think his hair looks better now
- Jim Hague
Dear Dorian, I stand corrected. I was just stunned that someone thought Monaco was an island. When I was in high school (when Dinosaurs roamed the earth, ha ha!), we had to memorize the world in geography. I guess times have changed.
- Jennifer Ragde
LOL, I took all those old photos of me and hid them deep!
- Lillian Banchik
OMG I just found this... *DEAD*
- Johnny
Oh wow, totally 80s, fer shure. :P
- Molly Song ;)
You looked smart and confident :) Great photo! Thanks for sharing!
- mahjongmi
It is ridiculous startups have to pay to pitch - http://www.facebook.com/note...
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Twitter Is Frozen in Time - http://mashable.com/2009...
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Digg, I present to you the next great Internet meme! - http://www.facebook.com/video...
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Hilarious.
- Adam Martin
[Friday treat] 2 Awesome Flash Games: http://adamatomic.com/canabal... | http://www.addictinggames.com/bloxors... Enjoy!
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Fuck Yeah 4Chan - http://fuckyeah4chan.tumblr.com/post...
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Well at a really quick glance that is definitely funny.
- Jimminy
I'm feeling dense right now.
- Spidra Webster
I'm just so happy, because I kinda hate Lexus drivers.
- anna sauce
Spidra, it doesn't say anything bad unless it slips past real fast, and you transpose the S and L.
- Jimminy
HAHAHAHAHAAHAH!
- Just Kidée: Road Warrior
Ah.
- Spidra Webster
Something tells me this wasn't thought through very well....or maybe thought through extremely well
- Rahsheen
Damn Ustream's iPhone app works great! Watching http://www.ustream.tv/channel... @140tc live now.
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It is awesome. Will be nice when they let you livestream to your show from the iphone.
- Mike Elliott
I've never been able to get it to work properly. The events that it shows as "featured" work fine, but other live streams that are not listed cannot be found using its search mechanism.
- Otto
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First photos of Ryan Soroush Scoble.
- Robert Scoble
Congrats.
- Spencer
Love!
- Robert Scoble
Thanks, we're having lots of fun except for getting woken up after three hours of sleep. :-)
- Robert Scoble
that is one very alert kid Robert. Congrats again.
- Rhys Amos
Just awesome, Robert! Do you have some stats? Weight? Length? Give my best to your wife :)
- Robert Couture
Oh and I don't see an iPhone in those little hands yet :)
- Robert Couture
Robert: 7 lbs 13 oz. Born at 11:32 pm. on Sept 19, 2009. 20.5 inches long.
- Robert Scoble
He's adorable. Also I notice Sequoia Hospital puts their name on the onesie. Thats smart; just a bit of free marketing, in everyone's new baby photos.
- DGentry
Welcome to the our small world Ryan "happiness" Scoble!
- N.Onur ATAHAN
Congrats Robert! He looks beautiful.
- Devon Govett
Congratulations!
- Warner Crocker
Congratulations to you and Maryam (and Milan and Patrick as well)
- Brian Sullivan
Congrats - you have time to breed?
- Dave Hendricks
Dave: it's amazing, huh? :-)
- Robert Scoble
He is beautiful Robert!
- earl wallace
from twhirl
Congratulations,
- Michelle
:) ای جان
- Noosha
welcome to this ..... world! i hope you're luckier than us!!!!!!!!!
- Alaedin Fazel
Congratulations Robert and Maryam!!!
- Amit Morson
Curieux cet emmaillotage de bébé... Cela ne se fait plus...
- Polluxe
i LOVE new babies! he's so alert by the time he gets his clothes and blanket. congratulations!
- Trish Haley
Congratulations on a beautiful baby. May your entire family be filled with joy.
- Debby Bruck
Congratulations, and welcome to the little one.
- Sally - Skyrimmin' It
RSS FTW! Congratulations.
- Tom Horn
Congrats !
- Guy Vander Heyden
CONGRATULATIONS to the Scoble family. The baby's beautiful :)
- Jim Connolly
Congratulations, very happy for you and your family! Best wishes.
- Harold Cabezas
my heartiest congratulations! I'm so happy for all of you!
- Howard Greenstein
Congrats Rob.......He's got your looks too :-)
- Alex Marrow
iPhone User: I Used 662,258 Text Messages in One Month [VIDEO] - http://mashable.com/2009...
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@BenParr I wish Twitter used the same system FriendFeed brought us. The new RTs will piss off lots.
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As I said on Twitter, don't be surprised if future iterations of the RT feature have this type of commenting system.
- Ben Parr
have to agree with ben parr this commenting system is best even for blogs/sites, it is a content centered one, people read the comment first and then get to know who wrote it, instead of perceiving things by just reading the person's name and by being selective
- testbeta
When is the new RT system supposed to go live??
- Christopher Scott Ostini
Only boring people get bored.
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Our most retweeted post right now: "20+ Mac Apps to Increase Your Productivity" - http://mashable.com/2009...
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