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Donglegate: Why the Tech Community Hates Feminists | Wired Opinion | Wired.com - http://www.wired.com/opinion...
Steven Perez, Jennifer Dittrich and RudĩϐЯaЯïan liked this
One reason for this is the growing popularity of “Men’s Rights Activism” (MRA) — groups of men who refer to feminism as “misandry” and advocate vociferously that men face more discrimination than women. Its popularity is growing and is especially active online on sites such as Hacker News and Reddit, where much of the public controversy around Donglegate has played out in the comments. Even sites like GitHub, where the PyCon conference code of conduct was posted, are not immune.
- copystar
I think some of these MRA types mistake not being able to get any woman they want with discrimination. :0/
- Yvonne
Huh. EBSCO Industries, parent company of EBSCO Information Services, is also the parent company of businesses that have nothing to do with library and information services, such as Green Mountain Rifle Barrel Co. http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/militar.... Call me surprised.
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woah
- copystar
http://pegasuslibrarian.com/... (This is part of the reason we don't have leverage with them)
- lris
yep.
- ellbeecee
Waiting for my email or phone call from some EBSCO rep now...(not really, no need to, please).
- Stephen le Francoeur
be nice if we could put together the folks who got pissed at Elsevier over this once more.
- RepoRat
huh, i thought everyone knew this already? they're big into hunting and the outdoors. i forget the thing they're most well known for, something deer-related or fishing-related. gah, now i have to go research to find out what the thing is. EDIT: fishing lures!
- Marie
Fishing lures.
- barbara fister
Oh, late to the party.
- barbara fister
[story of my life]
- barbara fister
is Elsevier purely in library and publishing related businesses?
- aarontay
Oh mercy, no. They used to be arms dealers. (Full name of the parent corp is Reed Elsevier.)
- Catherine Pellegrino
Also, Vulcan Industries, Vulcan Information Packaging, and Vulcan Service. Which dovetails nicely into the Star Trek fixation of many information scientists.
- Larry Schwartz
But not related to Vulcan Inc., Paul Allen's company.
- kaijsa
Laura Krier, "Learning about Linked Data: SPARQL and Content Negotiation," Words for Nerds - http://stephenfrancoeur.tumblr.com/post...
from Stephen Francoeur's Commonplace Book http://stephenfrancoeur.tumblr.com/
- copystar
Interesting. I'm working on a C&I essay using some two-year-old quotes, and hit a librarian's blog referring to libraries without "dedicated web dudes." And find that I couldn't let the casual sexism pass without calling it out. Unless, of course, I'm wrong in assuming that few women regard themselves as "dudes."
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thank you, Walt.
- RepoRat
There are a couple of specific circumstances where "guys" as a kind of pronominal suffix is gender-neutral for me, but I avoid it on the web anyway because for many it's not. "Dude" definitely isn't.
- Deborah Fitchett
Scalzi, as usual, tries harder: http://whatever.scalzi.com/2011...
- John Dupuis
I'd say my increased sensitivity to this crap is probably four parts RR, four parts Jenica and the rest of the women in LSW, and two parts Scalzi. Although, as I've noted before, I was brought up wrong in the first place: My parents always taught (at least by example) that girls and women were every bit as much people and as worthy as boys and men were.
- Walt Crawford
DLK isn't really known for his careful use of the language.
- bevedog
At MfPOW I was the web master for a while, and never liked that, but "Web Mistress" is just..let's not go there. I tried to get the title changed to "Web Spinner" but my director wouldn't go for it.
- Rebecca Hedreen
I always thought that the correct, gender neutral term should be "Webster". I also think that the industry screwed up by creating a new gender specific term at a time when everybody else was moving away from them.
- DJF
I use guys as gender neutral all the time and dudes as gender neutral quite frequently, but only when addressing a group of people.
- laura x
I wasn't going to specify *which* librarian was involved, but Steve did that for me. Yes, I know DLK isn't known for careful use of the language--and two years ago, I would have said "Never mind." Now, I think careless use of language that assumes most/all web people are "dudes" reflects an attitude that's equally careless and needs to be called out. If that's not what he means, then,...
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- Walt Crawford
OK, admittedly I'm an old liberal who never grew up and got conservative and entirely unthinking, but there's a reason I always found complaints about "PC" difficult: Casual stereotyping and gendering do harm, even if only by encouraging "that's just normal" thinking. (I would say I'm an old hippie, but I was never a hippie.)
- Walt Crawford
I don't think that's anything to admit or apologize for, Walt.
- laura x
I'm admitting. I'm not apologizing. (If I was going to apologize for anything, it would be the fact that I was *at* UC Berkeley during the Free Speech Movement, but never actually took part in it. Still being a liberal: That I'm proud of.)
- Walt Crawford
I never use guys as gender neutral. I'm pretty crabby about it, actually. Y'all works nicely.
- kaijsa
Reminds me--I need to watch The Big Lebowski again.
- OMG 404 Joe
Webgoddess for the win?
- WebGoddess
Also, DLK is in my regional library system and, at the last meeting we had, there were 2 women of 13 total attendees. This upcoming meeting it will just be me and 14 or 15 dudes. In his world, techies *are* dudes... Not that this excuses anything, just maybe gives some background.
- WebGoddess
WebGoddess: Which is why DLK's awareness (and sensitivity to language) needs to be raised a little. "That's just how it is" really doesn't work (as you know).
- Walt Crawford
at a fPOW, I called myself the Digital Diva. I guess that's not gender neutral, but it was gender-appropriate (and at Hampshire College, they cared about such things)
- $tephanie•Gardening
I guess I wasn't trying to excuse anyone or give anyone a free pass. Just when I saw who it was, it wasn't that surprising. (not because I think he's a terrible sexist, just because I think he's not a very careful writer.)
- bevedog
And I'm not necessarily trying to attack DLK--but I've come to believe that casually sexist writing reflects casually sexist (possibly unconsciously so) thinking, which leads to casually sexist conference speaker recruiting, which leads to casually sexist...well, you know the drill. So I'll probably call him out on it--mildly, but clearly.
- Walt Crawford
possibly helpful link: http://blog.jorgenschaefer.de/2013...
- RepoRat
That's an interesting post. Thanks.
- Walt Crawford
To be honest, I googled to see if I was the original blogger.
- bevedog
When you do send your message (and Dude, you better do so after starting this thread otherwise I'm gonna call you out for going for the reward without doing the messy work), please don't try 'to attack' this writer or even 'call them out'. I like to keep in mind an idea that I learned from the good people at #libtechwomen : you are talking to a 'future ally'. Let's make it a team win - not an individual losss
- copystar
I'm not sure what you mean by "send your message." As I said, it will be part of a C&I essay--a parenthetical comment within a generally-favorable commentary on a post on DLK's blog. There's no way to do that without saying DLK should be paying more attention. (Also not sure what you mean by "going for the reward without doing the messy work" but that's OK.)
- Walt Crawford
Here's what I currently have--but this is first-draft stage: "And here I have to pause for a comment I might not have made a couple of years ago. “Dedicated web dudes” really isn’t OK as a general description of people who work on websites. They’re not all “dudes,” and assuming that they might as well be helps to maintain a fairly apparent pattern of casual sexism in technology. I’m...
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- Walt Crawford
So you are not going to contact him directly about this? That's what I mean about the 'messy work'. It's when we take our friends aside and tell them that something is not cool. IMHO, if you want to change folks' language, you have to talk to them directly about it, colleague to colleague, friend to friend.
- copystar
But they aren't friends, as far as I know. Our community has a history of discourse in blog entries and publications like Walt's. That's how we became a community.
- bevedog
That's true, but I think in instances such as this, copystar is right, and it has more of an impact if you talk to the person directly. It also goes along with the idea that we praise in public and reprimand in private. Hell, *I'd* be happy to write to DLK and say, "Dude, I get what you're saying about the web, but 'dedicated web dudes' is not an okay way to talk, even if it does reflect your experience."
- laura x
What Steve says. If I send a message to DLK directly about something he wrote two years ago, and *don't* mention it in C&I, then there's no impact at all. (Well, possibly on DLK, but I don't think I've ever changed his thinking before...) If I quote that portion of the post--without which, I'd have to leave it out entirely--I either comment on the language or, by silence, excuse it as acceptable.
- Walt Crawford
I'm not sure I much care about changing DLK's language. I care about changing overall perceptions of what is and isn't OK--e.g., casual sexism. Sending a message to DLK and not discussing it in C&I does absolutely nothing to change overall perceptions. (What Steve says: I'm casually acquainted with DLK but certainly wouldn't consider him a friend or close colleague.)
- Walt Crawford
The funny thing here is that I don't consider taking a *friend* aside and saying "You know, you need to think about that language" (or whatever) to be messy work. That's pretty easy, if the person is actually a friend--and yes, I've done it. (And people here who I do consider friends have done it to me, sometimes privately, sometimes on FF.) What's messy and difficult is pointing out the flaw in public. I'd be much happier just letting it go. But I don't see how that improves things.
- Walt Crawford
I think the fact that it's two years old is important. If I said something today that someone I was friends with thought was insensitive or inadvertently dismissive of women (which is what I'd say DLK's wording was), and someone called me on it, I'd understand and I'd either apologize or defend what I'd said or make a mental note for later or whatever. But if someone told me today "this...
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- bevedog
Okay, that makes sense--I failed to realize how old the comment was. It's a pity nobody said anything at the time. And yes, I get the desire not to condone it by not commenting on it when quoting it. But I still think writing is easy and talking to people is hard.
- laura x
I mean, it's not like that post where Steven Cohen was like "where the reference bitches at?"
- bevedog
Based on all this, I'll probably revise it a little more so it's clear that I'm criticizing the language, not the behavior. As for Steven C., who at least used to be a friend...well, I have called him out person-to-person for something like that. Quite a while back.
- Walt Crawford
Why do women try to get ahead by pulling men down? — Thoughts on Society — Medium - https://medium.com/thought...
The point here is that women are not asking for a lot. We’re simply asking that everyone start from an equal place and with an equal amount of upward force. If you stop all of the escalators, you’ll end up with only the very fastest people at the top, this will create better solutions for everyone. This will mean that the slower people, men and women alike, wont be getting an unfair advantage, and therefore might not make it to the floor with the jobs. Maybe this will encourage them to walk a little faster.
- copystar
Long-shot CodSignal request: There was a thing, a while back: a challenge of sorts. To take a specific, very unusual phrase, and get it published in either a PhD dissertation or a peer-reviewed journal article, I can't remember which.
I also can't remember the phrase, the name of the challenge, or anything else about it. Is this ringing a bell for anyone?
- Catherine Pellegrino
You're correct, there was such a thing. Um.
- Deborah Fitchett
Exactly. That's about where my brain hits a wall as well. And all my googling is for naught.
- Catherine Pellegrino
Oh yes, my husband's cohort did this in anthropology with "a rich tapestry." There was some discussion about choosing "data sucking" to describe the year-long data retrieval from foreign lands, but the "tapestry" won.
- Marie
Very cool, Marie! But not quite what I'm remembering. IIRC, the challenge phrase was WAY weirder than "a rich tapestry." GAH THIS IS DRIVING ME ROUND THE BEND.
- Catherine Pellegrino
The PhD Challenge - http://chronicle.com/blogs...
- Jess
Yay Jess! My brain was getting stuck on Chicken Chicken: http://talklikeaphysicist.com/2007...
- Deborah Fitchett
oh gawd I just had the most evil and awesome idea -- use that paper for document-structure analysis in next year's XML course!
- RepoRat
Oarsum!
- Deborah Fitchett
Has anyone won yet?
- OMG 404 Joe
<Lucy Van Pelt> THAT'S IT!!!! </Lucy Van Pelt> Jess, you are a genius. That is precisely what I was remembering. Thank you!
- Catherine Pellegrino
*loves the Peanuts markup*
- bevedog
Wow - that's a much more daring phrase than what I thought you were referring to... which was the word 'embiggen' : http://kottke.org/07... which has worked itself into string theory
- copystar
I know, right? and I think I recall hearing somewhere that someone DID win it, actually. I love the Paul Krugman bit as well.
- Catherine Pellegrino
We had something similar in undergrad, ours was "they're magically delicious"....
- ωαřмaiden ❤Marrit Woman❤
RepoRat: I would feel very bad things for you if I were a student in that class with that assignment. On the other hand, I REALLY want to see the XML for Chicken Chicken.
- Jason Griffey
The Rise of the Mobile-Only User - Karen McGrane - Harvard Business Review - http://blogs.hbr.org/cs...
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"You don't get to decide which device your customer uses to access the internet. They get to choose." While this is focused on mobile users, I'd really like to email it to certain vendors, like, say, ThomsonOne, who have products that only work in IE. *shakes fist of frustration*
- ellbeecee
from Bookmarklet
Very interesting: "Google reports that 77 percent of searches from mobile devices take place at home or work, only 17 percent on the move." THIS is what Google is using aggregated, de-personalized location information from your phone and tablet for.
- DJF
If Google Now is any indication about geography bounded search is heading... well, my sabbatical year's work is right on the money :)
- copystar
I have the search history stuff turned off in google now, but the location- and time-aware information is still interesting. I've started to see local movie listings, but only on certain evenings.
- DJF
" If you try to guess which subset of your content the mobile user needs, you're going to guess wrong"
- Christina Pikas
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An Epistemological Critique of Wikipedia | Pierre Levy's Blog - http://pierrelevyblog.com/2013...
First, based on rigorous scientific methodology, this groundbreaking research shows that the paratextual headings of the famous online encyclopedia are very close to those of the 19th century Britannica. Since headings and disciplines form the meta-data system of the encyclopedia, or its chief categorization apparatus, we can say safely that it is one of the place where its tacit epistemology is hiding. Second, based on a thorough historical study of the encyclopedic genre, Jankowski shows that the theory of knowledge officially followed by Wikipedia is also the theory of knowledge stemming form the movement of enlightenment and developed by modern Europe in the 19th century. According to this general framework, there is an “objective” scientific truth, that is produced by the scientific community according to its own academic rules (the primary sources) and a vulgarization of this objective truth by the writers and editors of the encyclopedia.
- copystar
How to Lead When You're Not in Charge - Gary Hamel and Polly LaBarre - Harvard Business Review - http://blogs.hbr.org/cs...
They are mentors — rather than hoarding power, they give it away. Like Mary Parker Follett, the early 20th-century management pioneer, they believe the primary job of a leader is to create more leaders. To this end, they coach, tutor, challenge and encourage
- copystar
I'm doing a list of Quick Reads for adult summer reading. Please name your favorite books that are either 1) UNDER 200 pages or 2) have VERY SHORT chapters. Fiction and nonfiction are fine.
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Girl With a Pearl Earring may skate in just over 200 pages, but I recall blasting through it much faster than most novels when I read it.
- Catherine Pellegrino
All my friends are superheroes by Andrew Kaufman; The chairs are where the people go by Sheila Heti; The Clock of the Long Now by Steward Brand are three that come to mind...
- copystar
Well, this will spoil the surprise I had for you, because I'm mailing it as soon as I get my ass down to the post office (and I am going to imperiously and ineffectually demand you not read it until you get that copy), but I'm utterly in love with Maggie Nelson's Bluets (http://www.wavepoetry.com/collect...). It's 112 pages long and the chapters are paragraphs. (It's not *actually* poetry either, although it is sometimes poetry-like - it's fiction and/or memoir.)
- Marianne
Blockade Billy, by Stephen King.
- Julian
84, Charing Cross Road by Helene Hanff (it's less than 100)
- Katy S
Animal Farm
- Hedgehog
The Illustrated Man by Ray Bradbury (technically a collection of connected short stories, if that's okay). Also, I'd love to see your list when you're done. :)
- Katy S
The Last Lecture by Randy Pausch
- Kathy
Broetry by Brian McGackin
- Katie
The Bride Stripped Bare by Nikki Gemmell (very short chapters)
- ωαřмaiden ❤Marrit Woman❤
Someone at Fiction-L has been collecting these, too, for a quick turn-around book club. http://www3.mgpl.org/maillis...
- barbara fister
Ordinary Love and Good Will, Smiley
- maʀtha
Annie John, Kincaid
- maʀtha
I think most Jane Austen novels are a little over 200 pages, and I think they also have fairly short chapters. Pride & Prejudice comes in at about 256, and has 61 chapters. My other favorite Jane Austen novel is Persuasion.
- Laura H.
ooh, a lot of kincaid is short. My Brother is my favorite (nonfiction) and it's 208 pp... it read very quickly.
- Marianne
Second on 84 Charing Cross Road! I also adore Cold Comfort Farm by Stella Gibbons, which skates in at 234 pgs. Paletas by Fany Gerson, Finnish Lessons: What Can the World Learn from Educational Change in Finland? Classic short stories like the Yellow Wallpaper, ....I do not read many book under 200 pages. This is hard!
- MontglaneChess
House on Mango Street, Cisneros
- maʀtha
also a lot of Diana Athill is very short. Somewhere Towards the End is seriously wonderful (and again, 208 pages; what's with me and 208 page books?).
- Marianne
I was surprised to see that The Martian Chronicles was as long as 250 pages. A college acquaintance of mine wrote a wonderful short book called Treasure Island!!! http://www.amazon.com/Treasur...
- bevedog
Room with a View, Forster
- maʀtha
Could alo include some flash fiction collections
- maʀtha
Various Steinbeck
- maʀtha
To the lighthouse, Woolf
- maʀtha
Night
- maʀtha
Is the goal to come up with books that are fun and not intimidating?
- bevedog
I just read Tale of the Unknown Island by Saramago on Sunday, VERY short
- maʀtha
In honor of DJF, Three Men in a Boat
- maʀtha
P. G. Wodehouse
- maʀtha
Teaching a stone to Talk, Dillard
- maʀtha
Stewart O'Nan's The Odds (179 pp). Iain Pears' The Portrait (224 pp but it's effectively double-spaced).
- Marianne
All The Days & Nights - William Maxwell; Kindred - Octavia Butler; The Writing Life - Annie Dillard; On Chesil Beach - Ian McEwan
- MoTO #TeamMonique
Pines- Blake Crouch (before M. Night Shameyalan ruins it)
- Guy
The Reluctant Fundamentalist by Mohsin Hamed
- Heleninstitches
Carlos Ruiz Zafon's shorter books
- Heleninstitches
Paul Torday's might come in under 200 pages. Always intriguing... tho perhaps a bit British!
- Heleninstitches
Cowboys Are My Weakness by Pam Houston, just under 200p, flies by
- Julie Kane
@Steele: Yeah, I've refrained from listing a bunch of titles because they might be less accessible: The Bluest Eye, Henry James short novels, Faith & the Good Thing, and the book I'm reading now, Beasts of No Nation (Iweala), which is definitely not light summer reading and is stunningly good.
- maʀtha
On Bullshit, Frankfurt. Less than 100 pages, but written by a real philosopher.
- bevedog
The Little Prince.
- Deborah Fitchett
Where'd you go, Bernadette?
- Elizabeth Brown
Any of Tove Jansson's non-Moomin stuff. Novels are short, others are short story collections.
- Pete #TeamMonique
Just read Buddha in the Attic. Not my favourite per se, but it's very good, quick, and unusual.
- Megan loves summer
Thank you all! The goal is to have a variety of short books and/or quick to read books. Some will be fun and some will be more intimidating, but I figure an intimidating 180 page book is much less intimidating than, say, an intimidating 680 page book.
- laura x
we would like to see the finished list, please :)
- maʀtha
Dislike.
- barbara fister
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and the local newspaper is apparently trying to extract a $60 license fee from people who want to link to their site.
- DJF
SMASH
- jambina
I told her that if I was going to be rude, I'd say that they were lying to her.
- DJF
Can you ask her for a copy of that email?
- copystar
wow. i'm fuming.
- jambina
tell me about it. They are truly desperate. I gave her Sam's name for a second opinion, but he's out of the office for the long weekend already.
- DJF
Well....then
- Sir Shuping is just sir
from FFHound(roid)!
Jeff: http://lmgtfy.com/...
- DJF
local paper = London Free Press http://www.lfpress.com/ which is part of the Quebecor / Sun / Canoe group
- copystar
Is this true or true-ish in Canada? Can't be, right?
- bevedog
Rats - she should call back and ask to have this in writing - and if they don't.. well it's a dammed if they do, dammed if they don't situation, isn't it?
- copystar
EBSCO and Ex Libris slapfight. Pass the popcorn. http://t.co/wdZFuT5Gfb
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Like Terrell Owens, I have my popcorn ready.
- Julian
*munch munch munch* (We're in the middle of this: we're an Ex Libris shop, looking to activate Primo Central soon, and the bulk of our database content comes from EBSCO.)
- Catherine Pellegrino
Highly entertaining. But, evidence of exactly why we need to remember and act like we are in the midst of a bunch of business deals, not altruistic nonprofits (even if that is our role - which may also be debatable).
- Lisa Hinchliffe
Yes. One of the things I like best about this is Orbis Cascade Alliance's tone.
- Catherine Pellegrino
Now entering The Octagon...
- Marie
What language is that signature from Matti in?
- OMG 404 Joe
Hebrew. Ex Libris is based out of Israel.
- Catherine Pellegrino
I'm not allowed to talk about why we didn't implement Primo at MfPOW a few years back.
- $tephanie•Gardening
Stephanie, did you sign a non-disclosure document about it?
- copystar
The Orbis Cascade Board of Directors are my new favorite people.
- Jenica
Now that makes sense (concerning the sig.)
- OMG 404 Joe
this rocks.
- jambina
In related news, does anyone know if ebrary content is indexed by EDS?
- Meg V. Meg
not any more. (I don't know)
- DJF
Could someone explain this to me like I'm five, please?
- Andy
EBSCO owns content. Ex Libris would like to include that content in its Primo discovery layer, so that users at libraries who subscribe to the EBSCO products can find it using the library's single search box. EBSCO says, "No. If you want to access the EBSCO metadata, you need to subscribe to OUR discovery layer."
- DJF
Ebsco, like Proquest, is in the position of providing both content and a discovery tool. They are taking the lead in ensuring that their content is best/only accessed via THEIR discovery tool. As a result, Ex Libris's discovery tool can't effectively access EBSCO content. And all commercial entities in the game are failing to play nicely with each other.
- Jenica
(Two of us assessed it about the same at the same time, so you know we must be right. AND AWESOME.)
- Jenica
I support Orbis Cascade's position that if EBSCO and Ex Libris won't play together, then neither of them gets any money. Of course, in this particular case, that's not really fair to Ex Libris, who has no control over what EBSCO lets them see.
- DJF
I'm in love with the fact that a library organization is standing up and, in public, plainly asserting its right as a paying customer to demand better of the industry. Fuck. Yes.
- Jenica
Gotcha. Thanks!
- Andy
Also: discovery layers are serious business.
- Andy
I think EBSCO's fucking this up. They need to build a wall between the discovery business and the content business, and fast. Because if the content business is not indexed in a neutral way, then people using Primo or Summon will not find the EBSCO content. If people don't find the content, it doesn't get used. And that's how databases get cancelled.
- DJF
O_o
- Hedgehog
The timing of this memo is odd as we learned a few weeks ago that EBSCO has agreed to re-do the API. I'm more upset with ProQuest They won't even offer us an API to use with Primo.
- Jen
One comment I've heard regarding this situation is that their library holdings are only a small part of EBSCO's portfolio. Of course you would think Proquest, who has a higher percentage of library content, would care more.
- Elizabeth Brown
It's a good thing I wasn't eating popcorn when I got to "and use sub-standard API" at the bottom of page 2, or it'd be all over my keyboard now. It's like when you're trying *really really hard* to be the unbiased voice of reason in a debate but then a "plus your product sucks!" just slips out there.
- Deborah Fitchett
It would have been handy to have all of pop into view last month when we had Serials Solutions, EBSCO, and ExLibris deliver back to back one-hour discovery layer pitches to our consortium. It was my first full-on vendor experience post MLIS and I was alternately amused and appalled by the EBSCO hard core FUD.
- Heather
Heather, FUD is EBSCO's primary product line. We've all seen that in action.
- DJF
I used to work in a comms unit that supported sales guys and anytime the FUD was rolled out it was a clear sign of a product line in trouble and/or sales reps that didn't understand or respect their audience. Sales rep tactics appear to be a transferrable skill.
- Heather
"there is an inherent conflict of interest when content providers attempt to control a library’s choice of discovery." But since their interest is to make money, as much as possible, and control as many markets as they can, where's the conflict? I'm glad there's pushback, but why would we NOT expect a company to vertically integrate and resist sharing? In some ways its more a conflict of public interest for libraries to rely on these bozos.
- barbara fister
You nailed it, Secret Agent Fister, when are libraries going to wake up and realize they do not need to buy in to feeding the pigs? (codicil: when are the damn faculty going to stop giving their work away to the pigs)
- awd (canoeist in th wild)
from Android
Must say I first read Ebsco's response and it was a very good attempt to cloud Pmatters, I was almost convinced..., shows how much I know about discovery :P Anyway I never quite got why it's always about ebscohost , Proquest does the same. Or is it because their databases have metadata that can be obtained in other ways?
- aarontay
Yes, Barbara, yes. If you're a librarian, Ebsco's position looks ethically sketchy. If you're a business analyst, they appear to have a sound strategy. Ex Libris's positioning of themselves as The Good Guys Fighting The Good Fight for libraries pisses me off, because i don't believe for a second that, if they "win" and Ebsco opens up their data, Ex Libris won't turn around and try to...
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- Jenica
Aaron, what is the link to the EBSCO response?
- OMG 404 Joe
All of them here: http://www.orbiscascade.org/index...
- Jaclyn aka spamgirl
how did ProQuest / Serials Solutions / Summon get around this?
- $tephanie•Gardening
They go to the journal publishers and get the metadata. It's not 100% of say CINAHL, but maybe 90%+ but of course it's very "thin metadata" (ebsco's term), sometimes not even abstract or subject headings and usually no full text. It can make quite a difference sometimes.
- aarontay
Thanks Jackyn.
- OMG 404 Joe
A message went around at my Primo-using library this morning saying that use of our EBSCO full text resources have declined 64% and use of their indexes 73%. I think we'll be looking for this content elsewhere...
- Megan loves summer
phew. well, I can't say I'm sorry to see this chickenshit tactic backfire.
- RepoRat
I like most of my EBSCO contacts, but the guy they had delivering the FUD sales pitch when we looked at EDS last year really turned me off.
- Royce's favorite Anna
Soil Kitchen - Results - http://soilkitchen.org/results
Thank you so much for participating in the soil sampling segment of the 2011 Philadelphia Soil Kitchen project. You kept the EPA analysts very busy! Just over 350 samples were analyzed for lead (Pb) by the X-Ray Fluorescence (XRF) instruments. Arsenic (As) and cadmium (Cd) also were recorded but, as discussed later, the XRF instrument is not as effective in detecting these metals at low concentrations. The tabulated results appear in both the Results Index and Soil Map. You should be able to identify your specific result by the sample identification number provided to you on the day you dropped off the soil. Results are expressed as parts per million (ppm) – particles of the metal being tested (lead, cadmium or arsenic) for each one million (1,000,000) soil particles. For soil sample results, sometimes you will see ppm expressed as milligrams of some substance per kilogram of soil (mg/kg).
- copystar
Stay blocks release of documents from Boston College oral history project | Inside Higher Ed - http://www.insidehighered.com/news...
A last-minute stay from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the First Circuit has blocked efforts by British authorities to obtain documents from an oral history project at Boston College. While the college was prepared to turn over the documents, as ordered by a lower court, a stay was obtained on behalf of those involved in the oral history project. The stay -- issued Friday -- followed two December rulings by a district court judge, William G. Young. First, he refused a request by Boston College to have subpoenas for the documents quashed, instead saying that he could conduct a private review of the papers. In the ruling, Judge Young said he would weigh a variety of factors, including U.S. treaty obligations to Britain, and the impact of turning over confidential oral history documents on future academic research. Then last week, in a follow-up ruling, Judge Young ordered the release of documents related to interviews with Dolours Price, a woman in Northern Ireland who backed
- copystar
maps on the web with a bit of midlife crisis | inkdroid - http://inkdroid.org/journal...
from inkdroid http://inkdroid.org/journal
- copystar
Y'all have probably already seen this, but just in case:"So You Think You Want To Be a Librarian" http://publishersweekly.com/pw...
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"The Atlas of New Librarianship - our profession’s Finnegans Wake."
- Blake
a work of comic prose?
- awd (canoeist in th wild)
I was thinking "a book acknowledged to be important but generally unread and possibly unreadable," but since I haven't read TAoNL, that's just me interpreting the article's language. And doubtless unfair.
- Walt Crawford
While I am a fan of the ideas of Lankes (from what I can discern from his posts and talks), I also had trouble the TAoNL. Dale Askey wrote a critical and (I think fair) review of it: http://bibliobrary.net/2011...
- copystar
"Let’s be honest. At one time, librarianship was a beacon for misanthropes. Forty-year-olds whose best friends were still imaginary, or whose inner voices screamed, “Leave me the hell alone!”" Really? Really? That's an asshatish thing to say, and I'm not just saying that because I'm way over 40.
- John Dupuis
I enjoyed that part. It might have been less provocative to say that "at one time, librarianship was not an unreasonable career choice for loners and misanthropes." I think that it's worth pointing out to an assumedly-naive audience that librarianship is usually not a solitary profession now, and people who go into it thinking that they'll mostly be left alone will be surprised and unhappy.
- bevedog
^^^^^^^^^^^^ this.
- RepoRat
Given the number of librarians I know who are in solitary positions (mainly school librarians), it does have the potential for being lonely.
- Andy
Sure, but I'm guessing that those solitary librarians need to work hard interpersonally in their institution. My kids' school has a "solitary librarian" who seems to spend all his time working with teachers and students and the principal. The person who wants a quiet solitary job would not succeed there.
- bevedog
Right. The many definitions of 'solitary'.
- Andy
On augmenting reality | Adam Greenfield's Speedbird - http://speedbird.wordpress.com/2013...
from Adam Greenfield's Speedbird http://speedbird.wordpress.com
- copystar
In May of 2010, a small group talked of starting a hackerspace in Windsor. http://t.co/qpfybTCsv9 3 years later @hackforge will launch!
- copystar
I've recently become the psychology librarian at my college and am trying to get a better sense of what I should be buying and licensing. I hope to begin a series of one-on-one meetings with psychology faculty in the fall and am thinking of using this survey with them during the meeting to capture in a structured way what the overall needs of ...
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the department are. This is just my first draft of this survey. Any suggestions? Feel free to take it to see how it works (when I get to doing the real thing, I'll copy over the questions to a new survey). https://baruch.qualtrics.com/SE...
- Stephen le Francoeur
Bumping for the morning crowd. If you can kick the tires of this survey, I'd be most appreciative.
- Stephen le Francoeur
Survey is here: https://baruch.qualtrics.com/SE...
- Stephen le Francoeur
Aggregated results report is here: https://baruch.qualtrics.com/CP...
- Stephen le Francoeur
I think the sliding scale doohickey is lovely. I have a suggestion (but it's admittedly geared towards my curiosity rather than your needs) : what steps of the research process would you or your graduate students like assistance or collaboration with. This was inspired by: http://www.kcl.ac.uk/library... (and other sites, I've been tracking)
- copystar
That's a nice page you shared, Mita. I think I may use your question for a separate project of assessing the services that faculty expect or desire, as I really want to focus on the subjects that are of interest to them so that I can better align acquisitions with their needs.
- Stephen le Francoeur
do yo have any cognitive psychologists? psycholinguists?
- $tephanie•Gardening
Stephanie: not sure. I'm thinking I may try to do one-on-one meetings with a number of faculty before launching the survey. I may come up with different questions if I go that way.
- Stephen le Francoeur
Are psychological tests a format worth asking about? I'm thinking of things like HAPI and Mental Measurements Yearbook. (Though I can't think of other resources in that area, so if you already own those, might be a moot point.)
- Amandadon't
Also, do your subject categories come from LC classification? Which psychologists might recognize, but some of the verbiage from APA Divisions might also be useful? http://www.apa.org/about...
- Amandadon't
The National Institute of Mental Health just announced they are going to use new, research-related categories rather than the new DSM. http://www.nimh.nih.gov/about... Those might be good categories, too.
- Rebecca Hedreen
Amandadon't, I used the topics in bold from this list of PsycINFO classification codes: http://www.apa.org/pubs...
- Stephen le Francoeur
Good suggestion also about psychological tests as a format type to ask about. Rebecca, that's interesting about the DSM and NIMH. I saw a headline this morning that the NIH regards the new DSM as unscientific. I'll have to take a closer look at the NIHM research categories to see if they might be useful.
- Stephen le Francoeur
I always forget about those PsycINFO codes! Those are awesome.
- Amandadon't
APA's PsychTests are another resource full of tests and other instruments. We love them, but are waiting for them to get on EBSCO, as the native interface is worse. Another one I'd love to get is the Sage Research Methods Online, which is broader and more methods than instruments, but our social sciences folks would dig it. Sorry if this is too off-topic!
- kaijsa
We have Sage Research Methods Online and are wishing we had greater usage of it.
- Stephen le Francoeur
the PsycINFO thesaurus is the BEST!!!
- $tephanie•Gardening
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Not a scholarly source but it gets the point across: Observational Selection Bias: http://io9.com/5974468...
- copystar
That's perfect copystar! I was introduced to a PhD student the other day and now I seem to see him all the time. I wondered today if we needed to name this phenomenon and he suggested someone already had. He's going to be so amused.
- Hedgehog
Buy a new (new-used, or new-new) car and suddenly you see all the other cars which are of the same make. That which one thinks about rises to conscious awareness more often.
- awd (canoeist in th wild)
Coyote is the term I've heard for these things. As in, you never notice coyotes out west until you just happen to see one -- then you see them everywhere.
- LibrarianOnTheLoose
from BuddyFeed
I've been looking for a word for this for YEARS and thatis the only thing I've come across- your student is a coyote
- LibrarianOnTheLoose
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This is called the Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon, or the Frequency Illusion (it's a type of cognitive bias).
- Meg V. Meg
The Death Star Library, or Library and Archives as it was officially known, was a large library on Deck 106 in Sector N-One of the original Death Star. Most information in the library was transferred to phononic lattice storage. The library's data channel was 557.9. It was run by Atour Riten.
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whatever inspired you to look up the details about the death star library?
- DJF
heh, I was going to post how I found it, but didn't figure anyone would care. It was a link from this post about moocs: http://followersoftheapocalyp.se/death-s...
- copystar
I love this. That someone took the time...love.
- Louise "Weezy" Alcorn
Remember when Atour Riten quit her Death Star job to go work for Elsevier? Oh the "Dark Side" jokes would not stop.
- bevedog
Death Star Book Club. Sounds like a band name.
- Andy
Anybody else finding that Coursera doesn't really give much of a breadcrumb trail? I logged in and wasn't sure where to start. Still not sure I'm doing/reading/watching things in the Right Order, or what's associated with which segment.
I do appreciate being able to speed up the video a bit.
- RepoRat
Maybe it depends on the class. I'm doing Coursera for a course called Technicity and it's very well structured: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- copystar
yep, that's way better than mine
- RepoRat
Yeah, there seems to be a lot of flexibility in structure that's left up to the prof, and I'm not sure that's a good thing. One of my courses is very easy to follow. The other took a whole lot of exploring before I figured out what was expected of me at any given time.
- lris
Possibly just my inexperience, but it also seems that Coursera doesn't allow the prof to *remove* nav options that aren't used in the course?
- RepoRat
Unique visitors to Summon seems almost constant all the months, was highest in Mar 2013, but otherwise hovered at the same level for Jan/Feb/Apr within 4% margin . Comparatively Encore was jumping up and down depending on the month within almost 20% margin.. No sure what that means.
- aarontay
i'm not familiar with encore? what is it?
- Christina Pikas
Innovative's "next generation catalogue", think normal "classic catalogue" but with facets and features like "did you mean", spell check, community tagging, relevance ranking etc. Typically does not include articles, though we have Encore synergy that does include some of it but as a secondary option.
- aarontay
Not sure what's happening there. Are these capturing 'hits' from Google Analytics or is this each product's individual stats collection service?
- copystar
Google analytics for both. Is not really comparable in terms of page views due to the fact that Encore includes item detail pages and Summon hands over to the classic catalogue, but that shouldn't affect unique visitors I would think. My theory is that the next generation catalogue swings so much because certain months users are doing assignments and go for databases for articles so...
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- aarontay
Hmm, I don't think I buy into that theory because almost all of our use stats (from gatecounts, to website hits, to shelving counts, to database and catalogue use) all follow patterns of high and low use. If anything, I would think that Summon (serving articles) would have more variation of use than Encore (serving books). I think you need another data source to suss this out
- copystar
I'll look at the native stats of summon, It could be some limitation in google analytics.. The last i checked in Jan and Feb they (Google analytics and summon stats) were remarkably similar though.
- aarontay
The Future of the Library (and how to stop it) - http://librarian.newjackalmanac.ca/2013...
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"pass into the lands of JSTOR" lol -- I hope you said that suitably apocalyptically!
- RepoRat
First question from my presentation: "Can you tell me what happened to ______ [journal name] I can't find it anymore at the library" o__O
- copystar
ugh. I'm sorry. the self-obsessed we shall have always with us.
- RepoRat
Yes - it is best to laugh at it
- copystar
Rational Expressions: Technology lets you say mean things - http://rationalexpressions.blogspot.ca/2013...
But technology is (by definition!) new and unanticipated. It's a chance to change without any of the responsibility of inviting change.
- copystar
Stop Drawing Dead Fish on Vimeo - http://vimeo.com/64895205
People are alive -- they behave and respond. Creations within the computer can also live, behave, and respond... if they are allowed to. The message of this talk is that computer-based art tools should embrace both forms of life -- artists behaving through real-time performance, and art behaving through real-time simulation. Everything we draw should be alive by default.
- copystar
Announcing the official Commons app for iOS and Android — Wikimedia blog - http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013...
Love taking photos on your smartphone? Now you don’t need to wait to get home to upload your high quality educational photos to Wikimedia Commons, the free image repository used by Wikipedia and many other projects
- copystar
Forget Searching For Content - Content Is About To Start Searching For You – ReadWrite - http://readwrite.com/2013...
First, there's the where - what Schwan refers to as geo-fencing. Where you are, as noted above, makes a difference in what search results are most appropriate. Then there's relevance, which dictates results through explicit preferences that you have set, the results delivered to other users in a similar context and what is going on around you at that particular time (traffic, weather, business hours, etc.). The third aspect Schwan highlighted is relatively new, but fast-becoming more important to contextual search: push. Rather than waiting for users to search and then reacting to that query, data providers and search engines are working on how to push data to users based on their context. Google Now does this now on Android and its Chrome browser extension: cards based on your search results, location and even email messages will appear that give you the traffic report to get home or inform you of the latest sports score.
- copystar
Imperceptibly moving GIFs will be the death of my sanity.
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The ones that push me over the edge are the ones that are still for a long time, that fool you into thinking it's not animated, and then all of sudden it moves (especially the GIFS of people who suddenly look directly at you).
- Stephen le Francoeur
I thought moving GIFs went out in the 90s. I haz confused.
- $tephanie•Gardening
They're back with a vengeance.
- Stephen le Francoeur
I grow old, I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.
- $tephanie•Gardening
Oh, wait, is a moving GIF the same thing as an animated GIF? Did I misunderstand this thread?
- Stephen le Francoeur
I guess there is a difference. to me, they are the same -- head-splitting.
- $tephanie•Gardening
I meant the animated kind, but "animated" is not exactly the right word, because sometimes it looks like they are animated with the same frame or another frame that is barely BARELY BARELY or maybe not but YES BARELY shifted. I found one last night of that movie theater shooter guy, and I couldn't figure out if it was animated or not. Something was wrong with it, like it was more "real" looking than photos usually are on the internet? Or maybe I am losing my mind?
- Meg V. Meg
I've seen a lot of the type you're talking about, Meg.
- John (bird whisperer)
It's here: http://gawker.com/freejah... The byline pic is an example of what I'm talking about, and is what initially threw me off, and it meant that my brain couldn't really process the James Holmes pic (scroll down, on the right). An optical illusion or something? I don't know.
- Meg V. Meg
I first saw 'moving' gifs from this tumbler: 'If we don't remember me" :http://iwdrm.tumblr.com/archive and I think it's the source of the definitive gif that freaks folks out: http://iwdrm.tumblr.com/post...
- copystar
The picture of Holmes isn't animated, but the majority of it has been slightly desaturated, except for his hair so it stands out more.
- Jimminy
Mita, that Tilda Swinton one from Orlando, that's the one that haunts me.
- Stephen le Francoeur
GAH TILDA!
- Jenica
omg that is creepy as fuck. That's a whole genre of .gifs of which I was previously unaware. And I was happy that way.
- Catherine Pellegrino
It's not even necessarily the punchline/surprise that bothers me the most? Like in the second GIF in this NYTimes piece: http://www.nytimes.com/2012... The way the image looks (even before anything "happens") actually *bothers* me. I wish I could think of a better verb. The frame transitions are perceptually disturbing.
- Meg V. Meg
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