twhirl is the only AIR app I've seen worth using but I really like it - tsudohnimh
I've played the both Twhirl and Feedalizr a bit, but always seem to drift back to web interfaces. Among other things, it lets me juice the font sizes a bit -- which i need these days. - Chris Baskind
Twhirl is the first I've used. It's not ideal. Adobe has a long way to go to make them less crappy on OS X. - Bjorn Tipling
And I *am* trying to use AIR from OS X. Good call. - Chris Baskind
Twhirl was the only one I could stand -- but only for Twitter. Now I'm trying out TweetDeck - Shey
I think they're the sexiest apps for windows :D - Corvida via twhirl
I don't think it's AIR itself that's the problem - a lot of the web enabled apps that have been programed with it lately just aren't that great. So far, for me, only Twhirl, Snitter, and TweetDeck are exceptions to this. - Frederic
Tried 3 or 4 Air apps, in each case I bailed out, even though they were OK or OK+. I prefer to work independently of which computer I am physically using. - ron k jeffries
Twhirl on OS X uses more resources (memory, processing) than Firefox. I wonder if multiple AIR apps running simultaneously will be able to share those resources effectively. Otherwise, I don't see how RIAs will become successful. - scott anderson
Scott, what's your specs, because on both my Mac's Twhirl doesn't even show up in the top 5 memory users where as FF is always on top. Maybe it's just me, but I've got no issues with AIR apps aside from some of them being a little wide on my screen. Twhirl, Plurkair, Alerththingy, Feedalizer are all usable apps. - Duncan Riley
I tried several Air apps too, and they were either buggy and/or slowed down my computer to a crawl, which is also buggy come to think of it. - Kambiz Kamrani
I use Adobe AIR on Linux, which could be part of the problem. I really cannot stand AIR apps. Really. It's just that they are so out of place and weird. - possible248
"Staying logged into Disqus is definitely a time saver. Sometimes I go to other sites and I look at the comments box and think "Why am I not logged into Disqus?". Really they weren't using Disqus, but I'm so used to not having to type such things in now just to leave a comment. Disqus has spoiled me." - Corvida
"I don't blame you. Any blog that requires me to basically register before commenting isn't likely to receive my comment and I usually move on too." - Corvida
greeeat stuff! - "i can't get to the conversation" - yep. - jeneane sessum
I think @scobleizer's point about Twitter was how well it interfaces with FF and while not a conversation facilitator, it is a conversation starter that can be carried on over here on FF. I don't really think you'll be leaving Twitter. My hope is that we can get all of these services interoperating and stable. Twitter has an established community and I think that was also @scobleizer point. - James
@James An established community that's inaccessible the majority of the time. I shouldn't have to carry my conversations on Twitter somewhere else. - Corvida
@corvida ... Stability and reliability are the key. I think Twitter will get it right in the end. - James
has robert been able to get scobleizer back from whoever has it at indenti.ca? - Jeff Evans
You have made your point. Don't you still see potential in twitter once it gets its act together? They had not anticipated such growth so cannot totally flaw them for their constant service interruptions. - Tatenda Mbavarira
@corvida - You're absolutely right - Twitter, at least for the time being, isn't where the conversation is happening - it's happening here, on FF. Twitter still has a lot of goodwill in the community - if they get their act together, we will all jump back on the bandwagon. In the long run, I think they will get things up and running again. - Frederic
Why return to Twitter when the FriendFeed logo looks just like Twitter's? Seriously, FF is missing a few self-promotional features but other than that its functionality exceeds that of Twitter. - Terris Linenbach
@Tatenda I still see potential in Twitter now. I'm not denying that I'll be back there if and once it gets it together. Until then, it's just kind of moot for me since the conversation is inaccessible on my end. - Corvida
It will be up and running but by then everybody would have been gone - Gordon Swaby
I'm still over at twitter more often than on FF for conversations and quick updates, and think that the simplicity gives it a lot of traction - Bill Thompson via twhirl
Why? Twitter updates reach two audiences: here and Twitter, and still can spark discussions in the same way any other service can. - Mark Trapp
I did it because Ive started to use my Twitter account for a single purpose and felt as though it was just adding noise to my Friendfeed acct. - Andrew Baron
The great thing about diversifying your services, I've found, is that it gives people who are following you finer grain control on what noise they want to hear. I may want to see everything you're doing and sharing except for your status updates: but if you combine everything into just using the Friendfeed share something link, I can't filter out the different types of items in your feed anymore. - Mark Trapp
I'm thinking about doing the same as I only use Twitter as a broadcast service now. - Colin Walker via fftogo
@Colin Same here. If I want a conversation, I post the message to FriendFeed - Shey
@Colin I think you nailed it. Twitter is more for broadcasting. FF is a lot more like a blog with comments. Most people dont include their tweets as blog posts. Anyway, once I turned off the Twitter noise, I started to think of FF much more like a link blog, which Im liking (but also not wanting to muddy up with my Tweets). - Andrew Baron
I want to do the same, but I'm wondering if ppl try and MSG me thru twitter after discovering in FF. Also, I'm now twitterfeeding my FF internal RSS. - Hao Chen
yes i have made that shift- using twitter to answer the question "What are you doing?" and discussing it over here on FF. - Nathan Eckenrode
I did the same a few months back and I don't regret it. The audience that I cater to on Twitter is different and I'm not about to go back and forth checking FF for Twitter replies. - Corvida via feedalizr
Twitter inside of friendfeed is pretty irritating. Not everything decontextualizes well. - Dave Coustan
boy I've been thinking about it for long long time, never had the guts @colin I'm twitterfeeding lots of my friendfeed on twitter just to keep my network over there in the loop, some people are just not happy with leaving twitter behind an dmoving on - Dobromir Hadzhiev
It was a comment that Dan Edelman made recently when he was asked for career advice. He said "Work hard." - Steve Rubel
my boss has a quote from mike tyson - "everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the face." it has inspired me to always have a plan b, and sometimes c. - Apollo Gonzales
Apologies are empty - own up to your decisions and don't repeat the mistakes. Also, never use the words: can't or impossible. Finally, the is never such a thing as perfect... Always improve things and always move forward. Seriously, I picked up thousands of pieces of good advice from outstanding leaders when I was in the military. - Vince DeGeorge
The opportunities to improve are endless ! - Murali
If you want to hear God laugh tell him your plans. - Michael Tefft
Sadly, I have heard nothing even remotely inspirational at my current job. I'll be glad to bail out of here as soon as possible. I do this job well because it's mine. - Harvey Simmons
The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. Eleanor Roosevelt - mark ivey
"Follow your bliss" and "First class is only 80% more." - Dave Martin
those determined to find an excuse will always be passed up by those determined to find a way - Marco
"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that every has." - Margaret Mead - This quote is one of the reasons why I'm working on my current project, BizUnite. I have to believe that 'the people united, will never be defeated'. - Sonciary Honnoll
"And here's the breakroom where we have different types of Starbucks coffee brewed daily"....OK, just kidding, but truthfully, the answer is that it's not something I heard, it's something I figured out for myself, and that is that *I'm choosing to be here. If I don't like it, I can quit.* Sometimes you get caught up in the negativity and realizing that you're in control and this is your choice helps. - Sarah Perez
@sarahintampa Good point, Sarah. I'll keep that tidbit in my back pocket. - Sonciary Honnoll
"Ummmmmmm yeaaaaaaah. Did you get the memo?" In all seriousness, it's probably a quote from our SVP Systems Engineering, who recently told me that: "The global SE team would be in bad shape without your expertise & desire to win" - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
"As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anyone want to see second prize? Second prize's a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired. You get the picture?" - Andrew Smith
Don't work at the level for the job you have, work at the level for the job you want. - Kevin C. Tofel
Learn from failure and don't be afraid of failure. True successes is alway built on failure. - Peter Dawson
"Work hard so you can end up doing something that you enjoy, helps others, and gives you satisfaction." - Conrad Quilty-Harper
"Peter, thank you for saving my home from foreclosure" - Petes2Cents.com
My father always told me "trust no one" when referring to working for others. Every mistake I've ever made in my working life was based on ignoring that advice. - Duncan Riley
the real job of a consultant is to get paid with pleasure... - Luigi Centenaro
Only recently I heard some apparently famous Wayne Gretzky quotes (paraphrased) : "I miss 100% of the shots I don't take, and I skate where the puck will be." Nice. - Paul Grant
Maybe, but then sould know what they are renting. But a youtube link can be anything. Remember people are still getting rick rolled. - Grant Bierman
If this were a police state it would. Or if it were Iraq and you were renting Christian videos. There was a segment on 60 Minutes this week about how the 1 million Christians in Iraq were either killed or exiled. Almost all are gone. So yes, if we value our freedom, that kind of information must be protected. Try asking a librarian for that info, they'll say the same thing. - Dave Winer
I'm all for wanton outrage, but isn't the scope of the order to determine a very specific question: that Youtube is, in fact, benefitting in large part due to copyright infringing content? Viacom wants to prove to the court that most of what's watched on Youtube is copyright infringing content; to do that you need to see all the records of everything that's watched. I would imagine that in order for them to sue individual people, it would require a separate court order. - Mark Trapp
Mark, if that's all they wanted, they could make do with anonymized data. - Paul Buchheit
if viacom wanted name, addresses, rental history, credit card numbers and birthdays as well; would that be worrisome? what line of data being crossed is teh distinguisher for cause to worry? - Nathan Eckenrode
Actually, the judge would deny the request the same as it was denied for a similar request in the current ruling. - Dennis E. Hamilton
So what gives Viacom the right to this information? Does this mean if someone uploaded something I copyrighted to YouTube, I could also sue for all the information Google has? - Chris White
@DaveWiner interestingly enough, the best place in the middle east to be a Christian is Syria - Prolific Programmer
@Mark Trapp: It is not enought to say that Youtube is benefitting, whatever that means. There is a statutory protection against an intermediary being responsible, so Viacom wants to show that YouTube's algorithms promote the pirated content out of proportion to other content, so that they can show inducement. The judge ruled against them when they wanted some over-broad discoveries. - Dennis E. Hamilton
Dennis, right: so while I'm sure, yeah, Viacom would love to use the data they're going to receive to do other nefarious things, they can't. Or am I missing something? - Mark Trapp
Yet another way our civil liberties are being eroded in the name of capitalism and protecting big business. - Nick Dynice
I'm much more disappointed in a legal system that would grant Viacom access to the info. Why isn't the outrage pointed at the system, instead of something that takes advantage of the system? - Robert Seidman
Considering that Viacom owned Blockbuster up to a few years ago, it would probably not be a big deal. I doubt Blockbuster would have a problem parting with the information now. - Gabe Schaffer
I didn't know about the prior ownership, which makes it an odd example I guess. There are actually special privacy laws that apply to video rentals though: "The Act forbids a video rental or sales outlet from disclosing information concerning what tapes a person borrows and buys, or releasing other personally identifiable information without the informed, written consent of the customer." - http://www.privacilla.org/busi... - Paul Buchheit
@Mark Trapp - some data they are not allowed to have, whatever they say they want it for. In the case at hand (http://www.schwimmerlegal.com/...) , the Judge ruled on 8 motions and three were granted: (1) to see the schema for the video content database, (2) to see the information from the logging database for each time a YouTube video has been viewed from YouTube (via embedding or directly), and (3) to receive all videos that have been removed by YouTube. There's another which could be granted partially, concerning some non-content data about videos in private areas under YouTube. Information about the actual private content is protected by law, but Viacom will use what it might be able to get about non-content information to demonstrate that a particular area is not private in the sense that is protected. - Dennis E. Hamilton
Maybe the fault lies, in part, with YouTube for not anonymizing log files after a certain point? - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Is Viacom covertly networking with any intelligence agencies? What are the politics of the people at the top of Viacom? What are their social networks? - Sean McBride
Who says they don't already have this info? Certainly if they wanted it bad enough they could pay the going rate and get it anyway. - Brian Sullivan
I would say blogging, because I count micro-blogging as just a subset of blogging. Meaning...I have really made no choice at all. I still get to do both :) - Rahsheen Porter
Does FF participation count as micro-blogging? I participate in FF a lot more than my blog now. More convenient, easier to start a conversation and keep it going. No self-imposed timetable or post quota to keep up with to make sure enough people are interested in being part of my "audience" (it's built in with FF). Easier to interact with people and get more interaction back. Easier to find the answers to my questions. FF does all I really wanted out of blogging anyway. - Lindsay Donaghe
depends on my mood and what I want to say. it obv takes a lot less cognitive ability to microblog, but many more mainstream people read my blog. - Philip Ryan Johnson
@Lindsay Yeah I definitely agree. FF takes away a lot of my time that I would spend doing other things, that's why I've significantly cut my usage over the past couple weeks. - Shey
definitely would stay with blogging. I can live without things like Twitter. - Rob Diana
If had known micro-blogging / lifestreaming would reach this level, I probably wouldn't blog at all - Charlie Anzman
I can always find time to micro-blog... - Rachel Beer
Micro blogging == FF? If FF posts supported more length, formatting and inclusion of media then blogging would disappear for most people - Brian Sullivan
I don't think we have to or need to choose. Both are great for different things. - Tris Hussey via twhirl
more and more I am falling towards the micro blogging side. I sometimes think I should just get rid of my traditional blog. - (jeff)isageek
Since you did not mention IM, blogging, even though I do little of it, there are times a long public rant is needed for the psyche - Michael W. May via twhirl
Mini-blogging. Creating content while wearing a mini-skirt. - Andy C
98% of my blog's readers do not know what twitter is and they don't care. When I used twitter tools to publish an daily digest of my tweets, they hated it. So: The answer is Blogging. - Rick Powell
I agree with Lindsay. Post directly to FF. - Russellreno
Very crazy. LV has their name on _everything_ now... Never did get into the name-brand thing. Only reason I have a watch that says "Rolex" is that I won it in Vegas... After wearing it awhile, I grew to liking it. :-) - Mitchell Tsai
The quality of the post from the people... BINGO! - Rom Feria
Good vid / reasoning Robert, but one question. You put a high value on the "real time" nature of Twitter (for good reason), but are you really highlighting the real time nature of Twitter via Google Talk? i.e.: is the "client" adding some of that value? If so, could FF in GT be of equal value? - Kevin C. Tofel
Won't TWEET just become a protocol and google create a clearing house or collection place fro tweets? Is Twitter the Right answer? - JMac of Earth
Funny that the IM feature you value is unavailable and down so often... - Jeff Davis, KE9V
my guess is that you already have a lot of followers on twitter and will stay there to the bitter end because it is the path of least resistance. Eventually the features that make twitter so great will be available on other platforms, plurk for example, and while it's easy to stop a spammer on Plurk (as soon as the first person exposes the spammer/bot no one will follow them unlike twitter where scrape bots have the same juice as anyone else. - Darren Daz Cox
LOLCATS, Bush approval ratings, high gas prices, Yahoo being clueless - anything but this Twitter maintenance, peope jumping ship from Twitter, bla, bla, bla! - Mike Doeff
"It could be a Twitter killer because of the community, not the apps. :) And people are willing to wait a little for features as long as the platform's foundation works." - Corvida
Myers-Briggs has always been a bit dodgy when it comes to test-retest reliability. Also, it's entirely based on Jung's writings, which were didn't have any hard science behind them. - Steve Lynch via Alert Thingy
In my case, Myers-Briggs has been right, insofar as I recharge by being solitary. In that way I'm an introvert. I'm also an introvert in that I'm afraid of people. - Bec
I am an extrovert who loves her space - Kimberly J
Most people who know me would say that I'm an extrovert but I'm not. That's because I charge my batteries alone and away from people. - Roy Montero via twhirl
It really depends. I'm mainly an introvert. - possible248
The real introverts are not answering this question. For me, in a group of people I don't know, major introvert. When I'm with family and friends I think I'm more of the extrovert. - Kevin Shannon
+2 intro-extro... I'm good with people but I hate people =\ - Mona N
I'm both. Sometimes I'm extremely introverted to the point of being weird and other times I'm pretty extroverted, but not nearly as extreme... - Tad Donaghe
extrovert with friends... a bit more introvert while blogging... ;) - Jan van Iperen via twhirl
0 or 1 questions do not have answers. I think everyone is both and we all come in different concentrations. - Julian Baldwin
Both. On Myers-Briggs, I test both I (IntrAvert) & E (extrAvert). - Mitchell Tsai
An extrovert online, and a introvert-trying-to-be-more-extroverted in meatspace. - Lindsay Donaghe
me tooo!! OMG I am trying to ignore those as I am working...hehehe! - Susan Beebe
Steven - In this case, you're right. You can't turn it off - Charlie Anzman
Is it worth starting your "friend" list again?? Will the people who care what you're doing even follow you to *another* site? Since there's no direct feed to FF, is it even worth being an early adopter on this site? - David Cook
David - Let me be crystal clear here. Friendfeed is my 'communication home' ... period. No ifs, ands or buts. Thought it was utterly amazing how many people jumped on a 'virtual unknown' and still are. - Charlie Anzman
@Charlie - is it just LOL ... I joined just to secure my id cuase I do think this could have legs as long as Twitter remains having problems. If they really do a push and get things working then this will be just an interesting experiment - Steven Hodson
Steven - Yep, looks like someone got Scoble's. Wonder if he'll get it back like he did with Plurk? :) - Charlie Anzman
@Charlie I think you could take bets on that he will :) - Steven Hodson
Man - Robert's getting almost as fast on the trigger finger as Louis ... Ugh ... Where is Louis ?? - Charlie Anzman
Louis is focusing on his two beautiful babies!!!!! Yeah for Louis and Kristine!! :-) - Susan Beebe
this is what filters are for.. subject:(has-added a-friend) - those together should be auto-archived lol - InsaneNinja
I've already set up a rule and dedicated mailbox in Mac Mail for mine :-) - Duncan Riley
same here its a mess, and their site is already down for me - shoemoney
Pretty much was going to take the same screenshot. - Aaron Brazell
Too much noise for my FF followers. I know they can "hide" my Twitter posts, but then they have to make a decision to see them or not see them on a daily basis. In the end, I just didn't think my Twitter conversations were that worthy. - Christine Cavalier
