Bora Zivkovic
Defining the Journalism vs. Blogging Debate, with a Science Reporting angle -
It took me two days to write!!! [Edit: this does not include two weeks of gathering resources, reading and thinking] - Bora Zivkovic
LOL! And of course, the links and the links-within-the-links are the most important part! - Bora Zivkovic
Bravo, Bora! Since you mentioned American Scientist, I suggest considering whether they might like to (re)publish this article: - Bill Hooker
I can ask - it would take a lot of rewriting and editing to put a greater focus on science journalism and blogging, and less on "death of journalism" in general, for their audience. - Bora Zivkovic I guess people need more time to digest before responding ;-) - Bora Zivkovic
As I wrote on one of the other items linking to your piece, I really get the distinction you make between being in the right place at the right time and reporting what you see vs. collecting information that perhaps want to remain hidden. It's the second part that requires skill, and j school training is helpful, though not essential, for learning these skills. I also like that you point out how the focus on "breaking news" or "getting the scoop" can lead to the "creating news" nonsense we see sometimes in - Mr. Gunn (Hat tip, Dave Lull?! srsly?) - Bora Zivkovic
@Bora: the hat tip is for pointing the author to your essay... seems pretty standard netiquette to me. What strikes you as weird there? - Bill Hooker
Just wondering as the name was familiar.... - Bora Zivkovic - hmmm, one of my points is that the new medium does not pose restrictions on length, thus an article can be as short or long as needed, not butchered by an editor to fit some pre-set length. - Bora Zivkovic
two days to write and weeks of research, you'd never make it as a news hack on an hour's deadline ;-) - David Bradley
I know. Never had such ambitions. But many bloggers are quite capable of doing exactly that. And I can, too, but sometimes a piece requires more time - digging, reading, thinking, writing, in order to make a longer, more thoughtful piece. - Bora Zivkovic
Bora: "butchered by an editor" is tricky. There are, in fact, good reasons to "write to length" in many (not all) cases, and good editors can substantially improve a piece in the process. It's a *lot* harder to write a good 800-word essay than it is to write a 4,000-word essay, but it's sometimes worth the effort. (I write as one most of whose writing doesn't get edited any more, and could probably benefit from it.) - walt crawford
I agree. As I noted somewhere in there, I'd love to have an editor check my work as long as the final decision on the final shape of the article remains mine. If you look around blogs (including mine), some posts are one-liners, some 3 paras, some are 10000 words - whatever length is appropriate for the topic. - Bora Zivkovic
As in everything, experience matters - noob bloggers are not as good as old ones at deciding what to blog about, how to organize the post, how to time it, and how long it should be. This one was, since I first thought about it, meant to be a long piece - as thorough and complete as I could make it. Not a news-break, an analysis. - Bora Zivkovic
Bora: True--blog posts can (and, appropriately, should) have extremely variable length. I'll be reading your post in detail later in context with some other stuff... - walt crawford
Excellent thoughts by David Dobbs: - Bora Zivkovic
Additional thought-provoking stuff on the topic: and - Bora Zivkovic
Think Again: Mice, Playing: The Decline of Skeptical Journalism: - Bora Zivkovic
OBITUARIES: Science Writing, life-long educator, age ~2500: - Bora Zivkovic
The Return of the Son of Bloggers vs. Journalists (Part II!): - Bora Zivkovic
New Journalistic Workflow: - Bora Zivkovic
'Journalists vs. Blogs' is bad framing: - Bora Zivkovic