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1973 study of D2O on circadian rhythms. A good quote from introduction: "Many subsequent studies, the most important of which are those of Suter and Rawson (2) and Enright (3), indicate this effect of D20 is widespread: it lengthens r in unicellulars (1), green plants (4), isopods (3), insects (Caldarola, in preparation), birds (5, 6), mice, and hamsters (2, 5, 7, 8). The effect is clearly widespread and since no exceptions have been found in 12 cases, it is likely to be truly general. As several authors have noted, it therefore merits closer study as a potential clue to the physical nature of the cellular oscillation responsible for circadian rhythmicity." - Steve Koch

Thanks for letting me know it's a classic, Bora! I'm not surprised, but on the other hand, it's only been cited 7 times this century...and 40 times over all...what's with that? - Steve Koch

ah, what sophistry! - Bora Zivkovic

Nice one Bora. Man, there's gonna be free beer&wine at #scio10 - YAY. And looking for a bigger venue for 2011. Gosh, that's v. encouraging :) - Graham Steel

Some will be free, some will be a very good deal, still negotiating with sponsors etc. too early in the game. - Bora Zivkovic

Have you shared this with Brady and the Ignite crew. I am sure they'll be happy to know - Deepak Singh

We should - gotta put that on the To Do list.... - Bora Zivkovic

Interesting point - could only track down Jon's tweet via Friendfeed. Possibly an argument for piping mine back in - or perhaps setting up a secondary account for archiving... - Cameron Neylon

Love it: "...the natural unit of science research is the blog post". - Bill Hooker

Hmmmm. I'm begging for one ^_^ - Cassie peakie

hey anyone have an invite i desperately want one Cyberfennec (att )gmail(d 0t)c0m - keegan maloney

*gasps* - Anika

how I did it? Simple: delete, archive, delete, reply, delete more - Wayne Sutton

we still need a 'ban all idiot applications flooding the feed' button. i have more than 50 banned, but new ones pop up every day, and sometimes i can't see if something at least slightly interesting was posted. - Endre Sebestyen

LOL. I just go to FB once a day, usually late at night, and click on all the "Ignore" buttons for all the invitations to silly apps. - Bora Zivkovic

consider: http://userscripts.org/scripts... - claudia

Hmmm, perhaps ask that question on the 'carpooling and room-sharing' page on the wiki. At least some locals may be interested. Perhaps you can visit Carrboro Creative Coworking space. Or do some other science-y stuff: http://scienceblogs.com/clock... - Bora Zivkovic

<sniffs> yet again, I won't make it in person :-( - Graham Steel

Is it just the two one-hour workshops we need to sign up for? - Steve Koch

Yes, choose one 10am and one 11am workshop to attend - Bora Zivkovic

"tag: Dunbar" - Bora Zivkovic

Bora, are these points what your getting at: http://phasinggrace.blogspot.com/2007... ? - Micah Wittman

Yes - that's a good one. There were a couple of other critiques, notably one by danah boyd. And even Dunbar himself is smarter than this and said that his number does not apply to the online world. Search FF for tag: Dunbar - I've been collecting these, hoping one day to find time to write a blog post about it. - Bora Zivkovic

FF has been really sluggish lately. Perhaps everyone at the conference will have access to Google Wave by January? - Bora Zivkovic

If friendfeed's not around, someone better get cracking on a better client for Wave, because otherwise it's going to be unfollowable. - Mr. Gunn

Could the scientwist list become "official"? #science Should we start a campaign? http://j.mp/4t1ErO HT @BoraZ [from http://twitter.com/science...] - David Bradley

I assume there is a large overlap between David's list and http://sciencepond.com/ list. Is there anyone on http://sciencepond.com/ that is NOT also on David's list? It is unfortunate, but the Twitter lists have to be built manually (for now, at least). It's a pain, but once done, lists are amazingly useful. - Bora Zivkovic

From the comments, @brembs: "I found the best advice to be that you spend as much time in the lab as you *like*. If the lab pulls you out of bed in the morning and you have to find some activity (sports, music, friends) to drag you out of it in the evening, you’ll be fine. If some clock rules your lab hours, something is wrong." --hands-down the best advice to an intending grad student that I have ever seen. - Bill Hooker

Well, my inner clock works me more like 10-7 but I believe 9-5 is plenty if you WORK. Much better than hanging around day and night to be seen by the supervisor, but doing nothing. You have to be able to cope with the 24-7 folks' comments though... - Oliver Schuster

The concept of "tacit knowledge" is very interesting. - Mickey Schafer

Oh yes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... I use it all the time when explaining to people why they should post comments on papers - to preserve the tacit knowledge to the next generation - Bora Zivkovic

That's a nice point, Bora. I will use that to encourage students to participate more. Also explains why reading comments is important. - Mickey Schafer

Yup - and there's a FF room for it: http://friendfeed.com/science... - Bora Zivkovic

Absolutely, and wouldn't it appropriate for this user-generated video to be linked directly to the Manu. in question. Wait? Holy Spiderz... how did this happen :-) http://www.plosone.org/annotat... - Graham Steel

Spinning (sorry) back to PLoS EVERYONE from 2 days ago, it's worth tying in the post Worth a Thousand Threads http://everyone.plos.org/2009... into this one. Having re-read it, I see that there is a somewhat sombre note to this discovery and I must pass on my regards to Dr Matjaž Kunter in respect of the sad loss of their best friend Andrej Komac who died in an accident at the time of the discoveries. This I have now done. - Graham Steel

great read -- at least three lines that belong in "quotes" for great writing lists! - Mickey Schafer

Guess I can't count 'cause there's one more: #6 "Eben Moglen provocatively wrote in 1999 that collaboration on the Internet is akin to electrical induction—an emergent property of the network unrelated to the incentives of any individual contributor." -- this one in particular helps provide a frame for understanding what happens "out here" -- I think this is what I try to get across to students. - Mickey Schafer

Bora, great point. The activity in private rooms--even rooms in general--is under the radar. - Micah Wittman from iPhone

only the immortal are changeless. - Joe Silence is not dead

Will our institutional subscription receive retroactive discounts for lots of open access content? I'm guessing that will be a big no. - Jenny Reiswig

just added to the OAD list of research questions the jousting game idea voiced 3 comments further up in this thread, check out the list and add your own: http://oad.simmons.edu/oadwiki... - Claudia Koltzenburg

I managed to access twitter after 15 hours & still can see only my own tweets - claudia

Scoble's post about Lists is good: http://scobleizer.posterous.com/twitter... I dislike the limit of 20 lists. Already made or following 17 and want more. - Bora Zivkovic

Thanks Christina - just saw yours, very nice ;-) - Bora Zivkovic

certainly in flux now that Fed is a) asking bloggers to reveal conflicts of interest and b) excluding bloggers from the Shield Law. - Bora Zivkovic

am particularly looking forward to this one: "The commenting conundrum: about where and why scientists do or don’t comment on scientific articles" - Claudia Koltzenburg

especially looking forward to The commenting conundrum AND the article-level metrics... ;-) - Bora Zivkovic

http://www.wikimatrix.org/ shows quite a few in comparison. I like wikis best that show changes in detail. And I want menues to be availabe in many languages. - Claudia Koltzenburg

+1 for MindTouch, which is based on MediaWiki, it just comes with 'easier' (non-tekki) editing and widgets. - joergkurtwegner

*dead* - Anika

and Waldo and Carmen Sandiego and Holy Grail and the third Moses' tablet and the other half of the Shroud of Turin. And Mowgly. - Bora Zivkovic

I found this a while ago, but no one, to my knowledge, seems to have blogged about it:Real Lives and White Lies in the Funding of Scientific ResearchThe granting system turns young scientists into bureaucrats and then betrays themLawrence PA (2009) PLoS Biology 7(9): e1000197 (open access)Go read the article. It's scary. And seems accurate enough even to an undergrad with limited experience. (Shit, I've been jaded already before even going to grad school...)Within the article is this quote:“Scientists might have had a Hippocratic oath of their own. They might have promised their gifts to mankind. But instead, I have fathered a race of inventive dwarfs who can be hired for anything.”—Bertolt Brecht “The Life of Galileo,” version by David HareTo be fair, doctors aren't exactly saints these days either, being tied up by the madness of insurance policies and a culture that deems it acceptable to SUE(!) a doctor for trying to help a patient. But at least doctors can have their own...

another one: http://ecodevoevo.blogspot.com/2009... - Bora Zivkovic

Congrats! - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

Nice! Be sure to blog about your own paper :-) - Björn Brembs

Jay invented it but months ago: dig through the months of this search: http://friendfeed.com/search... - Bora Zivkovic

and here: http://jayrosen.tumblr.com/post... - Bora Zivkovic

Must be true. Who would post such a thing, I mean, really? - Josh Haley

:D Wheeee! - Josh Haley