Filed under: Audio, Web services, Apple Apple has reportedly just purchased Lala, a music service probably best known as a partner in Google's new music search results. Lala offers streaming access to its music library at a rate of 10 cents a track for unlimited replays. Does this mean a cheap streaming option will eventually come to iTunes? Lala doesn't have a huge user base, so perhaps Apple is planning its own streaming music service to compete with the promising new generation of streaming services like Mog All Access and Spotify (which is anticipated to land in the US in 2010). Some sources are saying that Apple is very interested in Lala's payment system, which sells bulk song credits and thus requires fewer credit card transactions than Apple's current system. Lala stores users' music in the cloud, so it wouldn't be a stretch for Apple to use this technology to provide users with streaming access to the songs in their iTunes libraries. Rebuying your library at 10 cents a song...
- Jay Niemann
Filed under: Internet, Video It's one of those things that you'd expect all large sites to have, but for some reason or another, Hulu has always had a bit of a gimpy search engine. You kind of typed stuff in... and prayed the site knew what you were looking for. But that's just changed! Just in time too, with the deluge of festive programming that's about to hit their website. Yes, Hulu now has an Advanced Search: rejoice and be merry! I guess an advanced search was never really on the priority list, back when their archive of shows was pretty small. But now with their digital rights expanding every day and the list of available shows becoming impressively large, and streaming media fast becoming the Internet's primary purpose, Hulu's new search tool couldn't come at a better time. Apparently they also have some other neat features lined up for the festive season; we'll be sure to report on anything else that looks interesting! They've dubbed their festival of features 'Hulu for the...
- Jay Niemann
OpenShot makes me excited to bail on my crashy Mac PowerBook and pick up an Ubuntu laptop. Now if only I could settle on a decent notebook for video editing...
- Joel Zehring
Joel: try something with multiple cores, maybe 64bit with lots of memory. a decent video card chip helps too, what sort of audio or video input and output is important?
- Mike Chelen
I've heard mixed reviews for 64-bit Ubuntu. Is it suitable for a Linux noob like me? Hopefully I'm not too spoiled by OS X. Input: DV camera via firewire. Output: h.264 files and the occasional video DVD. I've been looking at refurbished Dell Studio notebooks.
- Joel Zehring
it's worthwhile to run 64bit if the rig has more than 4gb of memory. most apps can run okay, but it helps to check and see how easy or difficult they are. for drivers, look at the model number, or the chipsets for important pieces like firewire or video cards
- Mike Chelen
Joel: dell studio 15 and studio xps 13 look good, 3d accel is important mainly for live video or playback, for non-linear editing it might not really matter. im unsure if openshot does both? probably cpu and memory will be most important for encoding
- Mike Chelen
Mike: Thanks. I was looking at the studio 15 just yesterday. Currently saving my pennies.
- Joel Zehring
hey mike any guide for setting up a higher screen resolution than ubuntu can detect?
- testbeta
testbeta: it could be the driver or config, do you know what chipset the video card has? could try reconfiguring xorg, there is a pretty good guide here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthr...
- Mike Chelen
Mike: I'm all about the refurbs. Thanks.
- Joel Zehring
Joel: ATI will likely have better driver support in Ubuntu. also id go with AMD but idk really, so check CPU benchmarks. maybe pickup more memory if any supports more than 4gb, or if you get a unit that comes with less. im drooling :)
- Mike Chelen
Mike: I've heard that AMD is second fiddle to Intel at this point. I'll definitely look for a dedicated ATI card. I'm no fan of integrated graphics.
- Joel Zehring
Joel: that is possible, there are so many different cpu chipsets, they can be difficult to keep track of. integrated graphics are getting better, however it seems nvidia and ati still have better support in linux
- Mike Chelen
would apple be happy with that? the major 3rd party productivity apps that cemented apples position with graphics designers being owned by MS? Could it get past competition commissions?
- alphaxion
It's possible there would be anti-trust issues and certain things would have to be sold off, but there's not much barrier to entry for desktop apps. Apple probably wouldn't be happy, but they have some of their own competing apps, and Microsoft would probably continue to sell apps as long as there's a market (Adobe hasn't even been supporting OS X as diligently as they once were). But with more people discovering HTML 5 goodness, I really wonder what the future holds for proprietary environments.
- LogEx
If you are thinking of canvas as a flash replacement, there is some potential there, but there is a lack of authoring tools at the moment. It would be nice to think that Adobe would see the light and make tools to support canvas authoring.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Thinking primarily from a user perspective, I'm just tired of sites and features that don't work in all major browsers, or that require special plug-ins, toolbars, or other extensions. I'm sure there's a technical list of things that can only be done with some proprietary tool or another, but surely developers are more ingenious than that and can find a way to make it work for everyone.
- LogEx
Authoring tools matter. When you work for an agency, and you have been tasked with making a "cool" experience for a client, and you are on a tight budget/schedule, you are going to use the most efficient authoring tool for making that "cool" experience you can get your hands on. That means using Adobe tools, and that means Flash.
- Jason Wehmhoener
So it sounds like someone besides Adobe should come up with some great authoring tools for rich HTML 5 / JavaScript apps. I've seen some prety impressive stuff, but not sure what tools were used.
- LogEx
I've seen some pretty awesome stuff that was painstakingly hand coded.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I wonder if Google is sufficiently motivated to produce (or buy) tools, some kind of Sketchup-GWT-like amalgamation, for everyone to use.
- LogEx
That'd be interesting if they didn't eliminate it they'd get the 64 bit Flash perhaps SiverFlash to go with their Silverlight! I wish Macromedia was still here they'd had pulled it off. SilverFlash would work. LOL
- James Stratford
didn't they adopt the the <video> and <audio> tags with MS' blessing? Adobe isn't a good buy right now ;)
- Michael W. May
How dare you give MS ideas. Do you *want* Dreampage Frontweaver to exist?!
- Mo Kargas
I wish both of them would go away....Flash is the most intrusive thing on the internet besides Windows itself. I was really hoping HTML5 would break the need for flash....
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
as said in this post: http://openvideoalliance.org/2009... "This allows for open, royalty-free codecs like Ogg Theora to be widely utilized. It also frees video and audio from its current, largely proprietary grasp, which reduces the legal and technological costs of entry, allowing for more participatory media."
- Michael W. May
MS tried and failed on acquiring Macromedia, seriously doubt they can get Adobe.. and hopeful that they cant..
- Yunus Tunak
I don't think Microsoft should. They have some great tools. If they stay the course with Expressions studio and silverlight, I think they can grain significant traction and therefore market share. Besdies, competitions forces people to iterate and make things better rather than settle for the status quo.
- Roberto Bonini
Just found this this morning... http://code.google.com/apis... Of course Google is putting tools out there. Yes, they can index some Flash content, but they're going to put their energy into promoting open web standards. I am of course half-joking with this entire post, Microsoft having control of Flash would only extend its life, and I'd prefer to see popular reliance on proprietary...
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- LogEx
O3D has nothing to do with HTML5 (it's yet another plugin). Apple and Google are behind the H.264 side of the <video> debate because Ogg Theora decoding hardware (important for mobile) isn't as common as H.264. Unfortunately H.264 isn't seen as "open" as Ogg Theora. Lots of issues to be worked out before we have a set of open technologies that are a viable replacement for Flash.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Are there any good SVG authoring tools that are both developer and designer friendly?
- scott anderson
Jason, technically true, but it seems to be getting marketed as one possible tool in the arsenal (though niche-y). Everything's got to be a plugin until there's common support. What groups *are* out there doing the most to nurture open replacements?
- LogEx
angrykeyboarder™: Nope. Will check it out. Thanks.
- scott anderson
HTML5 is the best bet for replacing Flash. It's just not there yet. Inkscape is an excellent SVG drawing tool, but doesn't handle animation. There are some comments from an Adobe employee on this blog post from Jonathon Snook about why Adobe should support Canvas authoring: http://snook.ca/archive...
- Jason Wehmhoener
Does Burst hold any promise for getting mainstream adoption in the SVG animation space? I was also thinking about investing in SMIL to model SVG-based animations and interactivity in JavaScript.
- scott anderson
Oooh, I didn't know about Burst. Looks very interesting! Support for both Blender and Inkscape for drawing, way cool assuming it works as advertised. SMIL apparently has major compatibility issues. Definitely also consider dojox.gfx.fx. dojox.gfx is an abstraction layer on top of canvas/vml/svg/silverlight and uses the renderer which is best supported by your browser. dojox.gfx.fx is the animation library for dojox.gfx. Some good doc to get started: http://docs.dojocampus.org/dojox...
- Jason Wehmhoener
I used to do a lot of dojo stuff but now I am focused on GWT. I probably should consider creating a GWT wrapper for dojox.gfx and/or dojox.gfx.fx. I think the way to take on Flash and Silverlight is not to create another monolithic authoring tool that tries to solve every type of problem for every type of developer but which only ends up overwhelming and intimidating the majority of...
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- scott anderson
Some kind of timeline authoring is the missing piece. Being able to arrange objects on a stage and animate them using a timeline, tween them using a motion editor, these things are incredibly helpful for quickly creating exciting animation. (Blender has great support for animation, so if Burst can accept not just models, but also transforms from Blender, wahoo!) I know there are GWT...
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- Jason Wehmhoener
I was considering using SMIL for the timeline piece. Where did you see the info about compatibility issues with SVG? It seems like a good fit from my perspective. When I was just out of school I built a QuickTime authoring tool called MovieWorks. It was basically a mashup of dumbed down versions of HyperCard and Macromedia Director with some third party media editors (paint, text,...
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- scott anderson
Browser compatibility issues, not issues with SVG. Sounds like a cool project.
- Jason Wehmhoener
wasnt google chrome the brower that hackers avoided at the last convention because it was the hardest to hack?
- Jason Carroll
Most insightful comment on Slashdot pointed out that by having Chrome in a frame you're exposing yourself to IE *and* Chrome exploits simultaneously. Better to run Chrome standalone, then.
- Rob Fisher
hahahhahahahhhahahah... hahahahaahaha... haha... ha... ha.... nice one Microsoft
- Phil Whelan
This article describes how you can force your Internet Explorer browser to always render all web pages in Google Chrome even if the site doesn't carry any Chrome specific meta tags. How to Force Internet Explorer to Always Use Google Chrome Originally published at Digital Inspiration by Amit Agarwal.
- Jay Niemann
This article describes how you can force your Internet Explorer browser to always render all web pages in Google Chrome even if the site doesn't carry any Chrome specific meta tags. How to Force Internet Explorer to Always Use Google Chrome Originally published at Digital Inspiration by Amit Agarwal.
- Jay Niemann
New research indicates that Twitter is more of a one-to-many publishing channel, rather than a one-to-one conversational medium. - http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/cs...
"At the same time there is a small contingent of users who are very active. Specifically, the top 10% of prolific Twitter users accounted for over 90% of tweets. On a typical online social network, the top 10% of users account for 30% of all production. To put Twitter in perspective, consider an unlikely analogue - Wikipedia. There, the top 15% of the most prolific editors account for 90% of Wikipedia's edits ii. In other words, the pattern of contributions on Twitter is more concentrated among the few top users than is the case on Wikipedia, even though Wikipedia is clearly not a communications tool. This implies that Twitter's resembles more of a one-way, one-to-many publishing service more than a two-way, peer-to-peer communication network."
- Kasper Sorensen
from Bookmarklet
It really sucks as a one-to-one medium. Talking in Twitter is like shouting in a crowded hall.
- RK
Interesting take. FF is much better for conversation between more than one person. But I think Twitter is great for exactly that shouting in a crowded wall. Understand me right, you pose a question or issue for debate. People respond, and you can selectively decide with whom you want to carry on the conversation.
- Kasper Sorensen
It feels like SMS thought except it's on the web. It's a bit confusing unless you use clients that provide threaded replies. Seeing someone converse with someone else on Twitter is just weird, especially of you don't follow the person he's talking to.
- RK
@kismet sure, for one's followers, a conversation can seem pretty unrelated to anything. As the follower this type of conversation is noise for me. But for the people in the conversation, I find it can be quite useful, IF; you keep the conversation short and to the point. More than 4 message exchanges, and the medium loses it's point.
- Kasper Sorensen
Sorry man. Been busy. It's just that your followers shouldn't have to deal with that. It just adds to the noise in their streams. It's just too messy. At least for me. For conversations, you're better off in Friendfeed or Plurk.
- RK
what do you like better about feedly then friendfeed or others? just curious. I'm trying to cut back, not add more tools, great s they might be. i'm exploding!
- washwords
Can I like this 3x. Thanks for a GREAT recommendation, Bwana. My new fave Firefox extension.
- Leo Laporte
Wow, even the screensaver function is cool...I might be leaning to feedly and away from greader...
- Anthony Farrior
Revisited based on a few 'endorsements' here on FF. Wow. Easy, fast, just cool.
- Charlie Anzman
I definitely need to spend more time with it, because on first impression, it's just too much information in one place.
- cecily
What are the implications of "no thanks"? Same as "Mark as read"?
- Andrew Smith
@cecily if you get a chance, go to the feedly dashboard (through dashboard link at the top right of the screen) and click on the star next to the sources you like the most and see if the what's new page looks any better. The other option is to click on the "cover" icon on the top left on the nav bar and see if that view is more diggestable. If you have specific ideas on how to make the interface more appealing let us know!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
@andrew no thanks = mark the article as read + let the feedly recommendation engine know that you did not like this recommendation. This metadata is then used with other criteria to unfluence future recommendations.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
@Bwana Where is Feedly video, I love Bwana TV more than Scobleizer TV : ))
- Erhan Erdogan
Edwin, one main suggestion - use plain language. Why call it "no thanks" when "mark item as read" is more intuitive (and doesn't require guessing)?
- cecily
Hmm... have speed dial already loaded upon feedly install and cannot find feedly anywhere
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
I installed and uninstalled all in 1 minute.
- Aaron Myers
Erhan, thanks :) I need to learn how to utilize it properly before I screencast it...it's coming soon though, I love this thing
- Bwana ☠
I tried it but wasn't that impressed with it.
- BCK
Looks promising, but I'm always suspicious of extensions that don't come from Mozilla addons site...
- João Almeida
What do you guys say to the folks who say Feedly crapped all over their Google Reader (adding feeds to it)?
- David Risley
It's in this thread David: http://friendfeed.com/e... We asked for a bigger warning since the one there is easily missed, the Feedly guys chime in as to why they did it that way. It doesn't "crap" all over your feed, it does create new folders, but they are easily removed. They are working on an undo procedure as well.
- Bwana ☠
iGoogle has been my home page for well over a year and what I have found is that via widgets its generally there for me to either click on gmail or to go into google reader - the other widgets are generally worth an odd glance but thats about it - I've put feedly as my home page and will see how this works out - but first impressions is a clean easy to use interface even if you have a few hundred feeds to juggle..
- Jican
Feedly is awesome: I had a few hiccups after installation, but I re-installed, and it has been a real help in 2 ways: 1) motivated me to clean up my feeds and sort them into a major category 2)motivates me daily to actually skim through and read the content that is closest to my current interests. well done!
- Terri MacMillan
Not dissing Feedly, but didn't experience anything that made me want to give up Google Reader when I tried Feedly a few months ago. Anyone care to explain why I should try again?
- Chris Stevenson
I don't work for them, so I don't see a reason to convince you. Some people like it, some don't.
- Fleagle
Hi Chris: feedly tries to provide a magazine like summary of your google reader. Some users only care about productivity and find the magazine like interface a step backward. Some users like it and use it in concert with their google reader. Some people prefer using the magazine like interface only.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Sounds like an interesting little project.
- Tyson Key
Its been fun working on, I wrote up the idea while blogging back in March/April and figured it was time to put up or shut up. I'm surprised at how straight forward much of the early proof of concept work has been. Had some problems getting netbeans and scala to work early, moved to php for now
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
"S3fm is the first 100% Ajax file manager application for Amazon S3. It runs directly in your browser as a standalone Javascript application and loads from and communicates directly with Amazon S3 without having to share your access credentials with a 3rd party Web site."
- Arnaldo M Pereira
from Bookmarklet
You know what, it's pretty nice - I just tried it tonight. In the early days I fiddled a bit with a Java app (the name....cockpit something I think - there wasn't much else a few years ago. More recently, Cyberduck (OS X app) did the bare bones OK. I know there's an array of Windows apps, a Firefox plugin and such, but this javascript app is, again, pretty decent.
- Micah Wittman
1. It's substanceless. It's impossible to say anything of real value within 140 characters. Why do you think so many people are using it to share links instead of their own personal insight? Because no one can make a substantial point using three word sentences!
- Brad Williamson
2. It's turning into MySpace. Ya know how back in the day so many people wanted to inflate the amount of friends they have so they could be PERCEIVED as being popular? Well that's happening on Twitter right now. Unless you or your entity is a public figure, there's no way all those followers are listening to you. As a regular Twitter user who isn't any type of well-known thought leader,...
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- Brad Williamson
3. Here's how a Twitter conversation unfolds: 1. I write a Tweet (I hate saying that word). 2. Moments later, a person replies to that Tweet as best they can in 140 characters. 3. Because I haven't been on Twitter in a couple hours, I finally see their response and do my best to reply to them in 140 characters. 4. Hours later, my response is seen and replied to. ...This delayed...
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- Brad Williamson
4. All the hype is causing mainstream news organizations to OVERUSE the platform. Valuable on-air time is being used to either see what Twitterers are saying (in 140 characters, NOT MUCH) about an issue, or they're asking us to follow them during time on segments when they're supposed to be reporting news.
- Brad Williamson
5. Public figures are starting to believe that all it takes to be considered someone who is "fan friendly" is to write, or for their assistants to write, quick little tweets. As a fan of certain celebrity Twitterers, I find it to be insulting that they think they can satisfy my hunger to gain deeper insight into their lives with this lazy approach to fan "engagement."
- Brad Williamson
I use twitter primarily to converse on hot trending topics :)
- Swaroop
I'll post more of my beef with with Twitter in a bit. In the meantime, let's hear some well thought out reasons why Twitter is awful so that those who love the platform can feel a frenzy to argue back ;-)
- Brad Williamson
@Swaroop Do you feel like you can express comprehensive thoughts on trending topics within your limited character space?
- Brad Williamson
Twitter is/was/will be a big success owing to fact that people don't have time to blog (I know some ppl still manage to pull this off), but most of them would just like to dump their quick thoughts onto a platform easily reachable.
- Swaroop
@Brad: Agree to the fact that expressing a huge belief couldn't be done in 140 chars, but that's where we have conversations (Reply to a tweet) right ? For scattered conversations - I am still able to successfully stay in loop/touch with the trends & friends
- Swaroop
@Swaroop Why wouldn't you use Facebook, or any other social media platform that allows you to breath a little, to share yourself with friends and family?
- Brad Williamson
It is changing as do all children as they grow up. So far, I still like it. :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I don't feel like I can have a conversation on twitter without threads
- Ryan
@Brad: I'm using Facebook - But it's too personal for scattered thoughts. Sometimes strangers are better judges for random crazy ideas/or when some work related help (some technical prob). Plus I do have the twitter app repeating the tweets back in Facebook for those one or two friends who don't tweet.
- Swaroop
@Brad: Like your image on Blue "ugly" duckling *ahem* bird
- Swaroop
@Matthew Besides the Trending Topics (which has just tuned into a "FOLLOW ME!!" soapbox) and a few other little improvements, I personally don't think it's evolved that much. To me, it's still a constrained conversation prison (I wonder if that made any sense ;-)
- Brad Williamson
@Swaroop HAHA! Yeah, when I saw that pic, I knew it would be perfect for this conversation ;-)
- Brad Williamson
I like it for what it is and if Twitter expands options that will be a good thing. This site 'Friendfeed' offers more options for expression--I like that feature also, even better, I like the cc feature to Twitter. All social sites will eventually, I think, become an octopus like entity with many arms linked to one another in clouds.
- Johnice Reid
@Johnice I think we all can agree that FriendFeed is the king of of the real-time ring.
- Brad Williamson
6. Using Twitter often forces you to have to say out loud the word "Tweet." I swear, if that word is ever included in the dictionary in the coming years, I'm gonna lose all respect for the English language.
- Brad Williamson
7. The suggested users list represents a desperate attempt to encourage people to become engaged in the site. Not only will those suggested users never reply to anything you say to them, but it's likely that you won't be a fan of any of them in the first place.
- Brad Williamson
8. The Trending Topics feature has already become a spam machine. Sure, some people leave relevant comments within these topics, but, for the most part, it's just used as a place to get new people to follow them.
- Brad Williamson
It is Schrodinger's birdy I think of it as a quantum communication. I am speaking to everyone and no one at the same time.
- Robert Higgins
9. It's hogging all the hype that FriendFeed deserves.
- Brad Williamson
@LLL Your experience of FriendFeed would be much more enjoyable if you wouldn't privatize your feed. I'm just sayin' ;-)
- Brad Williamson
10. It's sad how many people say that traditional blogging is dead and Twitter is the future. How can constrained commentary and conversation trump a platform that is limitless in function? With such a philosophy it would seem like our culture is doing everything it can to embrace a dumbed-down appreciation of ideas and information. Twitter's current popularity gives it the influence to...
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- Brad Williamson
Twitter is on the bottom of a very large trend, it will be as ubiquitous as email. But yeah Brad they will have to replace wikipedia with twikipedia. Explain the 10th Convention of the Parties on Biodiversity in 140 characters.
- Robert Higgins
Brad -- permit me to voice a contrarian opinion on Twitter. :) I think it is currently the world's premier news distribution system. I used to share your views on Twitter until I realized that tweets can point to documents of any type or size, including long articles, books, dissertations, movies, etc. -- one click and you are on the full document. Now I use Twitter to track the latest news from dozens of high-quality news sources. For discussions, I use Friendfeed mostly.
- Sean McBride
An appalling lack of features and reliability
- LANjackal
Good article Brad. I think you make some very good points.
- Kevin J Hatton
The lack of features is really the only thing that bugs me. I can't believe a company with as much venture capital as they have and as huge of a userbase hasn't managed to innovate.... at all. I still use Twitter religiously, as that's where the majority of my friends and connections are, but I really wish they'd fix some things.
- mike fabio
Peoplebrowsr is overflowing with features for managing Twitter.
- Sean McBride
I agree with Sean. I use it to track news from various sources as well as the thoughts of others. I post quick links to things from the web that I want to share, but if I have an opinion to share in the form of a longer-form response to something, I'll blog that, then usually post a link to it on Twitter. I'm new to FriendFeed and still trying to figure out how to fit it into my flow, but i like its ability to do much of what Twitter does without the 140char limit.
- Kevin Arth
It's easier to just crosspost tweets to something with more features like Facebook. That way if someone has a follow up they can put it there instead. Other than that it's mostly a glorified mailing list, though I think Dane Cook proved to us that even that has some use.
- Ben Blackford
Who wants to read about what strangers are eating for dinner without at least seeing pictures of the food?
- Amy℠
Twitter may be awful but guess what? I tried to get people to come to Friendfeed and they didn't. So it's what we live with.
- Morton Fox
I love twitter because it allows me to use it exactly how I want to. Follow and unfollow and block allow spam to effect me very little. IF you are autofollowing and auto dming then spam will ruin it for you and in fact... you are spam. Its only awful if you let it be awful. it is awful as a ongoing conversation tool, but not what it was built to be I dont think. A baseball bat is a...
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- Cody Heitschmidt
One of the ways in which it is awful is that you cannot have a discussion like this. When public search worked properly you could follow conversations there but that part of the Twitter experience is broken for me and many others; which leads me to a second way it is awful - the apparent unresponsiveness of Twitter in addressing the search problem, but I am going to comment on that in tollie williams' Twitter search question.
- Phil Harrison
I hate that historical posts have no real use. After 10 to 20 posts no one cares about what was posted before that. Plus the search is crappy.
- tomit
from iPhone
What about ways in which it is not crappy. For me It has been an excellent introduction to new people (globally) and mediums (such as friendfeed). I have made new friends and acquaintances that I enjoy communicating with and yes a few of them are famous people who really do try to communicate and they have my admiration for that. Now that I have been introduced to friendfeed, however, Twitters' flaws are more and more apparent.
- Phil Harrison
discussion on Twitter is strongly constricted by the (in)famous 140 char limits. I tends to look with interest to new experiments like Qaiku, where there is a true conversation model, where replies are not conditioned by length...
- Marco Castellani
I like Twitter, but the Visigoths have definitely stormed the gates with spam posts, links to their own blogs, zero conversation, and WAY too many hashtags. In short, it isn't Twitter that sucks - it's we users who suck.
- Ciaoenrico
1. Spam followers! 2. updates that are not relevant to me at all.
- Rohit
Twitter sucks but thanks to FriendFeed we can discuss why.
- Sivan Mozes
RT Let's all give our personal perspectives on why Twitter is AWFUL
- elefantastico
When you get dropped off the Twitter search, your Twitter life is effectively over. I have been dropped off the Twitter search since June 10, and I have a broken heart that shall never mend. I loved #Journchat with all my heart. I was never in my entire life as happy as I was in Journchat on Twitter. Now, I will never again be able to participate in Journchat. When you get dropped off...
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- J. D. Ebberly
Same thing happened to me buddy. Apparently once you get dropped off Twitter Search, it's permanent
- LANjackal
from IM
Great points 1-10 Brad! I would only add that twitter search sux (for more than this dropping issue that JD and LANj are talking about) because it only goes back in time a short period of time. I do find twitter useful but wish everyone was on ff instead... that would be more useful. :-)
- Chris Heath
Twitter is like a food you really don't like, so you just don't eat it. 140 characters limits creativity but if you can't get a point across within those limits your language skills are lacking or you are using the wrong medium to make your point. Plenty of people do get Twitter and use it creatively. If it's not for you, stay away. No-one is insisting you use it.
- Gilbert Harding
I don't really think the spam criticism is fair. If FriendFeed had the same amount of users as Twitter then there would be the same amount of spam. Also, if people are spamming you just unfollow them. The only real problem is the spam in the trending topics. Personally, I love Twitter and FriendFeed. I don't mind using both.
- Shawn Hickman
Don't really like twitter, but I agree. Spam on the network is very easy to avoid unless you're automatically following everyone who follows you, which is just plain stupid IMO
- LANjackal
from IM
Why I find Twitter to be valuable (a few feeds I follow): Antiwarcom, alleyinsider, amnesty, atul, bbcpolitics, bbcscitech, BreakingNews, CBSNews, CFR_org, cnnbrk, cqpolitics, dailydish, DavidCornDC, DemocracyNow, dorait, EFF, foxnew_pol, FP_Passport, Gizmodo, glenngreenwald, guardiannews, guardiantech, haaretzonline, harpers, huffingtonpost, HuffPolitics, infowarsstories,...
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- Sean McBride
WOW. Thanks for the list of Twitterers who are worth following. But I gotta strike back with a counter point... Instead of Twitter, why not use an RSS reader to filter through their latest content, where you can read the entire headline as well as the article's by-line?
- Brad Williamson
Brad -- actually, I am experimenting on a regular basis with using Google Reader, Feedly, Friendfeed and Peoplebrowsr as front ends for browsing and managing Twitter feeds. I haven't yet settled on any one interface as the best (my opinion keeps changing from day to day and with experience). Also, I have noticed that as a rule 140 characters provide more than enough space for the artful...
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- Sean McBride
Twitter = Divas, Wanabe Divas, People on Prozak and Spammers! There are a few nice people there, but it is really hard to have a conversation! So unless you have a large following, the best way to use Twitter is to follow the peeps you are interested in, and then go to their blogs, FaceBook, etc, to talk with!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Twitter = some of the best news sources and minds on the planet. Twitter is only as good as the feeds you choose to follow.
- Sean McBride
You people have an awful lot to say about something you dislike. No one is forcing you to use Twitter. No one will resent you if you leave.
- Tal Shafik
@Sean, so Twitter is for broadcasting, if you have a following. Twitter is not for dialogue!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Actually it's far more useful to me the more people that are on it. But is least interesting in feeds from self appointed A listers. I avoid those and all is good.
- Cole Jolley
Igor -- yes: Twitter is primarily a *broadcasting* medium, and nearly useless as a discussion medium. Friendfeed is probably the world's premier discussion medium. Friendfeed could easily match Twitter as a broadcasting medium simply by providing the option to hide all comments under a list view interface (with one click to open the discussions).
- Sean McBride
Sivan Mozes hahahah... that is so true. It's like Friendfeed users need to constantly remind and assure themselves they did the right thing leaving Twitter
- Andre P. Siregar
we didn't leave twitter.. twitter left us. - joking aside though i don't think there's many ff users who don't have a twitter account maybe 10%... maybe (if i had to guess)
- Chris Heath
I think the market is big enough for facebook, twitter and friendfeed. Google wave will only strengthen twitter further with its extension Twave. Twitter has all the high profile people in it.. celebs, technologists, u name it.Twitter has its identity as a microblogging social network, Friendfeed has its identity as an aggregator with microbloggin features.Both hav their place. I think most will shift their base to facebook from twitter once facebook unveals the "everyone button"...
- Gtp19
there is not many desktop and phone clients for friendfeed.. any social network is nothing without its users.. i think more the people get to know about and use twitter, there is much of a chance for them to use friendfeed.
- Gtp19
Brad, point #10 is the most relevant in my opinion. Despite illusions to the contrary, our culture has been barreling down the "dumbed down" path for quite some time. I hate to think what the future will hold if we continue this pattern.
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