Christina Pikas

Excellent ! Thanks. I tried something earlier but it wouldn't install - I think it wanted to put a dll someplace banned by work. - Christina Pikas from iPhone

Eclipse + eGit - Egon Willighagen

since i'd like to use eclipse, that looks good, too - Christina Pikas

too late, sorry! but there were a few questions that were like how much do i love the big evil publishers and do i love wiley more than the others.... - Christina Pikas

http://wiley.qualtrics.com/SE... - Christina Pikas

wow. that's... needy. somebody's PR arm is scaaaaaared. - RepoRat

the funny thing is that I'm pretty pragmatic about the whole thing.. i use the hell out of elseveir's products... and i get a lot of benefit from them and when they make improvements... Wiley's platform is pretty crap and hasn't improved since changing over from interscience... but they seem to want to be seen as forward looking and innovative and communicative... NPG is, yes, them? no. - Christina Pikas

Grabbing screenshots, thanks. :) - RepoRat

(I'm surprised the survey would let me page all the way through without answering questions.) Also interesting that they toss in a couple of OA questions... A strange, strange survey. - Walt Crawford

I think that's based on whether or not you have One-Click turned on. We don't, and I get a link resolver result page on articles with more than one access point. - kaijsa

EDL doesn't do this (or if it does, it's turn-off-able) - Meg V. Meg

We do have one click turned on for our Summon. We try to have it go to the most stable full-text sources, publisher first, then from a priority list of various vendors. We also have ArticleLinker set up on a top frame if the patron would like to see if the FT is available from other sources besides what was presented from the one-click. - Yo Joe. No, go slow.

What's EDL? Summon & other discovery services I think also has direct linking is independent of your link resolver settings. In our Summon instance, in some cases the link brings you to the landing pages like http://www.sciencedirect.com/science... , that's not directly the full-text, though in some cases it does bring you direct to full-text with pdf loaded though eg Oxford journals. - aarontay

Funny you should ask. I thought it was the new "EBSCO Discovery Layer"? Though their web stuff makes it sound like it's called EDS? But we have a trial now, and I am 99% sure that I've never heard it called EDS, because I would have made a Ross Perot joke. - Meg V. Meg

Definitely EDS. If you click the title, it brings you to a detailed record screen (usu. with abstract though not always), and there are links to either full text or link resolver that show on the results and/or detailed record screen, depending on how you set it up. (This is the same way that other EBSCO dbs work.) There's no option to make clicking the title go directly to the source. The one exception is their "Web News" database, which as far as I know is documented nowhere although it does exist. - JffKrlsn

Always heard it called EDS. It's quite interesting when you consider the main selling point of services like pubget is that you can do a search and download the pdf directly from the search screen without even seeing the native interface. That's one step up even from Summon with one-click 360link turned on. - aarontay

EDS (Summon, too, I thought) presents a "Full Text" button (or other specifically named option buttons to check for linked full text or ILL) right in the search results list by default. Click the Title for the record/metadata & click the Full Text (or other buttons) for the actual content. - awd

our new default is to go from citation to full-text without stopping at link resolver page. I prefer it the other way, but I think my colleagues' research supports the one-click thing - so I defer to the users. - $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian

I'm coming around to one-click. When we only have one full-text option, it goes straight to that from Summon, and it's nice. I think we're just worried about things breaking and not giving people options if there is more than one provider. We should probably stop worrying because things break all the time and we cope. - kaijsa

scopus has a separate button to grab and download the pdfs of any selected articles in your results set. I can see why that's handy. I'm not terribly keen on the title linking as there is a full text button in the record anyway - Christina Pikas

We hate the download button in Scopus, it's a bit confusing since it will download citation/abstract only if there is no full-text which confuses users. Plus we have this little thing about restricting downloads via ezproxy beyond a certain amt in a short time..... Plus the download manager uses java....sigh.. - aarontay

kaijsa, for 360link at least, you can do a helper window iframe, with links in the frame on what to do if the content below is broken. Disadvanatages are well it's a iframe, so some sites will not work well with it, and also for some browsers depending on cookie settings, there will be "cross-domain" issues with cookies or something particularly with ezproxy, there are ways around it..... http://laimages.s3.amazonaws.com/data... - aarontay

By the way, if you are talking about "page with more detailed citation information." in Summon, you can see this by hovering over the title for a popup or clicking on the small magnifying icon which will popup the detailed record in Summon. It is very easily missed (think Summon 2.0 changes this?), most people just click on the result, which will then go to the link resolver, which is... more... - aarontay

we have the same frame thingie that @aarontay mentions. except the peoples don't see it. still, good idea; I point it out in classes. dunno if this link will work: http://vb3lk7eb4t.search.seria... - $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian

Which thread on http://listserv.crl.edu/wa... - Yo Joe. No, go slow.

(Sandy Thatcher?) - barbara fister

ding! that's the correct ST and here: http://listserv.crl.edu/wa... - Christina Pikas

Bingo. - Yo Joe. No, go slow.

L. Quilter has been v. awesome in my books since at least 1997. <3. - Marianne

I said something mean about Thatcher then deleted it. Instead I'll say--is he ever useful, or is he just a full-time troll? - Steele Lawman

I've known her online since 1995 or so, previous life and all that. Was just plain shocked to cross paths with her in library land! She's fantastic. (also: super thrilled to have no idea who ST is. do I need to?) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan

He said something nice about DPLA on Secret Agent Fister's latest IHE column. I was surprised. Unless it wasn't actually him! - RepoRat

I find Thatcher confusing--I don't think he's a full-time troll, but I'm mostly not sure what he is or believes. One of the few people who talk about OA who I really can't pin down. (Almost like I used to be, perhaps?) - Walt Crawford

On this particular list he has to comment multiple times on every single thread regardless of the relevance on his running the penn state press (and retiring some time ago). I'm sure he makes some good points but geez. - Christina Pikas from iPhone

http://friendfeed.com/orgmonk... - Marie

Sandy's one of several reasons I unsub'd from that list and one other. Dude just talks too much. - Bill Hooker

so, more of the same, then - DJF from Android

I wonder which we'll end up with - Hedgehog

Tangentially: after MfPOW dropped RefWorks a year ago, it was finally removed from the home page today. Yep. - RepoRat

Oh my. We dropped RefWorks and haven't had any issues - Zotero works just fine, thank you. - barbara fister

We get a lot of "but one of the two ARL libraries in the state has it, so why don't you?!?!" Like we have anything close to their budgets. *sigh* - Kirsten

we're a division of a very wealthy R1... so we have lots of stuff... that's why this is crazy. - Christina Pikas

tia - Christina Pikas

I have no idea, but just wanted to say that I lol'd in my office when I read their message about it. "On a related note" indeed. - Meg V. Meg

Have no idea.... - Yo Joe. No, go slow.

catalogers get pretty upset about this kind of thing, no? - Christina Pikas

(Commenting as I need to look into number 3 for my researchers after the weekend) - suelibrarian from iPhone