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Marie
Check cost of living before getting too excited - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Killjoy. ;) - Marie
Sarah G.
Related: I have been informed that my cholesterol number is "dangerously low" and am instructed to try and raise it 32 points. (To 150)
You are the only person to get a prescription to eat meat. - sglassme
Lots of eggs and bacon - Joe
Welcome to my world: "extra butter and sour cream on that baked potato please" - WarLord
@sglassme - it's even better than that. I was told specifically to eat a lot more fat. - Sarah G.
"Could I get two bacon cheeseburgers? I'm trying to eat healthy." - Andrew C (✔)
"Is it....is it possible to deep fry buns? If so, hit me up with that while you're at it." - Sarah G.
oh, buns painted with butter and put on the grill before using ... mmm - Christina Pikas
"QUICK, this man needs a hot beef infection STAT!" - Johnny from iPhone
Come to the UK, we probably still have some hot infected beef ;) - Pete
"Hot Infected Beef", my new stripper name. - MoTO: Tufted Coqeutte
Bacillus Barry, the Rod of Love - Pete
*fans self* - Big Joe Silence
RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Summon users -- have you made decisions about keeping, paying for, or killing Flow yet? We've recommended we turn off Flow, until they develop RIS export functionality. Just curious if others have been making like decisions
Turned it off as well almost ASAP when it was launched. Didnt think there was anything that stood out at the time. Given that we don't even support reference managers that aren't named EndNote, and fact it was near to our semester start (we started early Aug) was a fairly easy decision. That said, I think there is export RIS functionality exposed now (just checked), initially when it launched I asked about it too, worrying about lock-in - aaron
we've asked to turn it off - weelibrarian
We are going to have it turned off. - Joe
Thanks for reinforcing my thoughts about it - DJF from Android
mad about flow. it doesn't have a ton of the features i need, but i want something that integrates with google docs. - Christina Pikas
Christina, have you seen this: http://zoteromusings.wordpress.com/2013... It's not "integrated" but seems like it could do in a pinch. Or this is the quick and dirty way for Scrivener, and seems like it would work for Google Docs: http://thedigitalresearcher.com/how-to-... - Meg VMeg
We have it on, but we subscribe to O.G. Refworks and Flow. - kaijsa
We're hoping to turn it back on over winter break, there's a lot of great potential there. And I feel much better now, knowing that many of you all have similar concerns. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Christina, you can still use it, even if your school turns it off. I think the URL is flow.proquest.com, and you just work with the bookmarklet instead of Summon integration. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Aaron, where did you find the RIS export info? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
We have no intention of turning it off and we don't have summon either because our search results with it were very weird - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Rudi, I saw it by trying flow on another library's Summon instance. Also see pic.twitter.com/GJZl6jJRGq - aaron
John Dupuis
RT @kanderson: Professional societies in the US are growing concerned about public access policies. http://thehill.com/blogs...
Hear that sound? That is a big loud FUD! - Joe
Poor babies. Here, have a world's smallest violin. - RepoRat
The hill is widely read by staffers. Hopefully this won't have any impact - Christina Pikas from iPhone
siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh - RepoRat
There was a lot of the same kind of FUD here about the coming Tri-Agency OA policy. "Ooooh, but what about the societies?" - John Dupuis
"Our professional society provides so little real value to its members that we can only survive because of library subsidies. Help us maintain our budgets by draining library budgets!" - Walt Crawford
Bingo. Same with government's funding research. They don't fund research for the sake of supporting society or commercial publishers' journal programs. They fund research for lots of reasons, but none of them involve making sure that publishers are taken care of. As a result, government OA mandates shouldn't spend a lot of time worrying about how mandating OA is going to affect the... more... - John Dupuis
^^^ Bingo is right. - Joe
Christina Pikas
so CHORUS and PORTICO have reached an agreement - I guess the publishers are trying to even keep DoE from having to have a dark archive
"(New York, NY August 18, 2014) The not-for-profit digital archive Portico and CHORUS (Clearinghouse for the Open Research of the United States) have entered into an agreement to support the preservation requirements of the policy memorandum released in February 2013 by the White House’s Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP). This policy directs United States federal agencies to develop plans to make articles reporting on the research they fund freely available to the public immediately or after an embargo period, and highlights requirements needed to ensure long-term access to this research through preservation." via liblicense - Christina Pikas
LB's 10:19pm Name Change
RT @wtfrenaissance: Tina looked over the prints from her children's portrait session. Anne Geddes work had certainly taken a dark turn. http://t.co/VKKUeO1K33
RT @wtfrenaissance: Tina looked over the prints from her children's portrait session. Anne Geddes work had certainly taken a dark turn. http://t.co/VKKUeO1K33
Except for probably in remembrance of a deceased baby - Christina Pikas from iPhone
aaron
Spoke to someone who told me they systematically upload their school's output to ssrn who asked me why they should change (or in addition) to uploading to our institutional repository . That is a really good question..... I am thinking there is no reason?
ssrn is indexed in Google Scholar, has its own builtin audience (and no one cares our IR is in our Summon instance), has better statistics than our current Dspace implementation (we don't even have stats for downloads). I don't think you can use the sustainability argument either. - aaron from YouFeed
Only possible argument - not persuasive - is for the prestige of the institution and to be discoverable with other things from institution. I heard of someone (Purdue ?) who just did some sort of export from arxiv to populate their ir - Christina Pikas from iPhone
I heard theoretically is possible but besides technical issues is it legal? Eg Get a blanket agreement to upload everything from a Subject repository to your institutional repository. Or do you have to seek permission, author by author? And yeah, I basically went with... Well.. our IR is likely going to be responsive to your needs etc while SR are going to be well... generic. Not sure if I believe what I was saying.... - aaron
If there's CC licensing of almost any stripe on the stuff in arXiv, yeah, it's legal. Ain't like the IR is gonna remove attribution, now, is it? Anyway, there's been some investigation indicating that the more URLs you can find something at, the more it gets read. Let me see if I bookmarked any of it. - RepoRat
Your IR might not be as responsive as SSRN. the disciplinary repositories are pretty squared away for the specific needs of their particular users. Some IRs are bound by the outdated ideas of their bureaucracies. Anyway - I'd agree with RR that it should be a both situation ,not an either-or - Christina Pikas
oh, SSRN prolly won't be happy with mass download/reupload, and last I remember they watermark their stuff, so tread carefully. - RepoRat
Thanks so much for the aallnet linky! Very timely, as I'm currently talking with law academics about where to archive and where to create profiles when there are so many options. I vote for both IR and SSRN, too, and the comments here will help me explain that!! One point against SSRN: it is super clunky for uploading. - Megan loves summer
Depending on who you talk to, you might also be able to make a digital-preservation belt-and-suspenders argument: Lots Of Copies (in responsible places) Keeps Stuff Safe! - RepoRat
Wow thanks RR for that article. Is interesting how the data seems to indicate that SSRN has less visibility to Google then to IRs. That's a interesting fact if it can be backed-up. - aaron
I would be happier with that article if they followed a lot more articles - Christina Pikas from iPhone
More research definitely warranted, Christina. But as a persuasion tool, I do think that article can be useful. - RepoRat
my lawdawgs (their term) LOVE SSRN. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I had a conversation with one of our law librarians who said that their faculty were less than happy with ssrn but keep using it because everyone in law goes there. I think the google ads were making them unhappy? I'll have to doublecheck with her. She pushes ideals as well but doing an upload twice isn't happening (understandably). - Sarah from FreshFeed
*sigh* I really wanted SWORD to make upload-once-deposit-several-places a thing, but it never did. - RepoRat
Rochelle *boom* Hartman
Anyone have firsthand knowledge of a public library/community college library partnership? Or if you could point me to case studies or examples.
Are you talking sharing space? ILS? Collection? Budget? We share our ILS with our community college and share materials via in house ILL. Users have separate HCPL *the library*and HCC (the community college) accounts because we have different circulation periods and fines. - ♫Robot Chicken, Trainer♫
[deleted my comment because I obviously don't know what I'm talking about] - Betsy
When I was a student at Everett Community College (WA), the college library was also a branch of Everett Public Library. It looks like that's no longer the case. Here in Wyoming, all the public libraries and community colleges share an ILS and database packages. http://www-wsl.state.wy.us/wyld... We at the university are part of the Colorado Alliance, which includes both publics and academics in the shared catalog. http://prospector.coalliance.org/ - kaijsa
I think Carroll county md does, too. Or they used to - Christina Pikas from iPhone
I can't say much because it's casual discussion (which could get serious soon). Mostly want to see different ways it might look. Thanks! - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
I've been involved in some partnering between a satellite campus of our community college and a public library; it is currently very loose and informal; we tried some tighter integration but it didn't work. One of our sister colleges has a joint-use MOE with the public library for one of its satellite campuses (although there is no info about that available online that I can find!). - JffKrlsn
Phoenix Public Library/South Mountain CC Library in Phoenix (RepoRat linked it above). It's been pretty popular (it's my local PL), and I know some of the librarians there, if you want a contact. - Grumpator
Thank you, thank you! - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
There's the library Chad Mairn works at in Florida - maʀtha
RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Editor would like me to provide a footnote sourcing the term "The Big Deal". Do any of you happen to have at your fingertips something describing/defining/originating this term?
Hm. Someone mentioned on liblicense who coined the term. - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Unless there's an earlier mention, I'd go with Kenneth Frazier in D-Lib in 2001. Here's the link: http://www.dlib.org/dlib... - Walt Crawford
Thanks Walt! The term was thrown around as common when I was in libschool, so this threw me :) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Kubke
Sigh: "Like most open-access journals, Science Advances will be supported by article processing charges." Keep repeating a falsehood over and over again (most OA journals, at least in DOAJ, do *not* have APCs), and even people on "your side" regard it as truth. - Walt Crawford
I don't think that that google doc is allowed to be edited any more. - Joe
It looks like that sentence was taken out after you viewed it. Good thing, because I almost tweeted him to ask him to edit it after it had already been edited. - Joe
Huh. Still the first sentence of the second paragraph here: http://www.the-scientist.com/... - Walt Crawford
Ah, I see, that is in the scientist reporting of the letter, not in the actual letter. We are talking about two different texts. - Joe
In order to comment on the Scientist article, I'd have to "Sign In with your LabX Media Group Passport to leave a comment" and I'd rather not do that. - Joe
you can put a comment in the google doc and protohedgehog will update - Christina Pikas
Julian
Good morning. Nap time soon.
Boy, did I nap yesterday. Almost all day, even. - Julian
jealous - Christina Pikas
Indeed. - Uli
Christina Pikas
crap on a banana. Looks like DoD will be using DoE's PAGES and will initially use an instance on DoE servers. Looks like DTIC will have the authors accepted manuscripts available (not just as a link or just in a dark archive) but those will only be available to registered users. Sorry - can't provide copy of where I read this :(
*eyeroll* - RepoRat
Of course. - kendrak from Android
Seconding RR's eyeroll - Hedgehog
In my head I'm thinking of this as the first NIH Public Access Policy, which as we all recall sucked giant boulders... but was eventually unsucked. Here's hoping... and working. - RepoRat
"crap on a banana" heh - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
DoD is probably all pissed that they have to restore funding to DTIC after they've sucked all the funding out of it over the past couple of decades - Christina Pikas
Galadriel C.
It is now official: UConn Libraries is discontinuing access to Web of Science as of 9/1/2014.
In 2005, UConn Libraries began a subscription to Scopus with the intent to, after a period of time, evaluate both Scopus and Web of Science and determine which *one* of these two resources should be maintained given use, user feedback, coverage, and fiscal resources. - Galadriel C.
Our usage overall for Scopus over the last three years is higher than that for Web of Science, while the cost of Scopus is significantly lower. - Galadriel C.
Additionally, while Scopus does not yet have the deep coverage that Web of Science does, Scopus does include books, patents, and more conference proceedings at no additional cost. - Galadriel C.
We have determined that our priority in collection development is e-preferred full text content. When we examined our top five e-resource subscriptions by spend for FY14, Web of Science was the only one that is an abstract and indexing resource while the other four are full text journal packages. - Galadriel C.
An official press release, and hopeful an article of our findings from the massive analysis that we did are forthcoming. - Galadriel C.
wow. very interesting! - Christina Pikas
As a side note, should you ever cancel Web of Science, have your internal communications to users ready to go as soon as you tell Thomson Reuters as they will soon blast an e-mail to your campus alerting everyone of the upcoming loss of access without warning you first. - Galadriel C.
^ Good grief. - Marie
Yes, indeed Marie! They even sent one to the archivists and the president of the university. - Galadriel C.
Reminds me of stories I've heard about that time we canceled subscriptions to Elsevier. - lris
Wow! Can't wait to read your full article - nice work! - Jen
But remember, vendors LOVE librarians! - RepoRat
Jeez, that's dirty tricks. - barbara fister
o_O WTF Thomson? that's messed up - Sir Shuping is just sir
Yes, I had strong words for TR. They first said that they knew it was a challenging situation and wanted to help make sure that users had time to switch their alerts. I kept reiterating the four main points *besides* budget for the cancelation. - Galadriel C. from Android
I don't think any librarian needs to be ashamed of budget management. Also sod you, TR, you disingenuous jerks. - RepoRat
I also explained that I knew with the loss of revenue from a big university that it was a challenging situation for them and that I could see their interest in alerting faculty with hopes for a reversal, but that they should be working with the library as their primary customer and that we were profoundly disappointed in their actions which represented a poor business practice. - Galadriel C. from Android
<3 <3 <3 - RepoRat
The ACS pulled the same stunt with our faculty fifteen years ago when we SWITCHED from print to electronic. They spammed all the faculty telling them we were canceling journals. - DJF from Android
Oooooh, interesting. What happens to your WoS backfiles? Or did you have them. - Meg VMeg
We'll be receiving the back files (1974-1995) on CD or external harddrive. Because Scopus is in the middle of reindexing records to go back to 1970, we're going to wait a year and see if we need to invest in locally hosting the back file. Originally TR said they host the bckfile for 10% of last year's subscription fee but then said that they no longer host... - Galadriel C. from Android
...because they need to focus on existing subscription customers. - Galadriel C. from Android
Interesting. We're deeply invested in backfiles, which has made me hesitant to consider canceling, even if my Science librarian wasn't so deeply in love with TR. - Holly's favorite Anna
^ same. - Marie
back in the day I was hopeful that this would be the end result. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
AND this is not news to Web of Science, iirc. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I'm just happy that there's competition. I actually like WoS a lot better than Scopus, but competition is good. - Christina Pikas
the competition made Web of Science better … but not better enough, imho. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Looking into back files and our investment in them was interesting. It proved to me that licensing them should be much stronger as we paid once for the back files; so, we shouldn't have to maintain an incredibly expensive A&I subscription in order to access back files easily especially when there are competing A&I resources that on our campus is used a lot more. - Galadriel C. from Android
Would someone mind unpacking the backfiles question for me? I'd like to understand it better. Is the issue how much of purchased backfile is covered by whatever A&I databases have been separately purchased? Or am I totally not getting it? - RepoRat
RR - Web of Science as a regular annual A&I subscription presently includes 1996 to the present. If you want to go further back, the library has to pay a one time fee to purchase back file coverage that is chunked out by year. For example, UConn purchased back filed that included 1974-1995 for art and humanities, social science and science. As long as we had a subscription to current WoS, back file content was also available on the WoS platform. - Galadriel C. from Android
Oh. And that backfile access goes away when you discontinue WoS? - RepoRat
Many libraries have purchased more extensive back files. - Galadriel C. from Android
While it is very true that one has to be able to find a citation to even know that full text exists, there are other ways to get citations (subject specific databases, Google Scholar, Scopus). In addition to paying a very high price for WoS citations and platform access, we are also paying for an OpenURL linker to connect from citations to full text, and then paying millions for full text as well as a lot for ILL if we don't have full text. - Galadriel C. from Android
The cost of access is absolutely unbelievable. - Galadriel C. from Android
Yes RR - the back file access on TR's WoS platform goes away when you no longer have a subscription. University of Prince Edward Island cancelled WoS and now they locally host their own back files. There is no support from TR once they've handed over the raw back files as I understand and it took them a while to get it set up. The whole set up of requiring a subscription for platform access to back files bothers me greatly especially since the back files alone are quite pricey. - Galadriel C. from Android
Wow. That is pretty f***ed up. How much did UPEI have to do to make use of those raw backfiles, if you can give me a sense? - RepoRat
Agreed. In the correspondence I had with UPEI, I got the sense that they had a very competent IT/systems person working on it and it took about a year of steady work amongst other responsibilities. I also *think* it occurred before a lot of libraries were investing more in hosting their own digital collections which may or may not have make it easier - I don't have deep grasp on what local hosting would entail. - Galadriel C. from Android
Thanks, Galadriel. Now I feel I can usefully explain this to students. - RepoRat
You're most welcome! - Galadriel C. from Android
Christina Pikas
Looking for a way to identify big/important conferences that mpow isn't already attending. Like I know sfn is a big conference and there are always news reports and press releases about it. AAAS is smaller, but there are some... is there a way or an altmetrics service maybe where I can find conferences that are covered a lot or are big?
For the library peeps or for the faculty/staff of the institution? - Joe
And, what is sfn? - Joe
for scientists/researchers - not library staff. society for neuroscience - Christina Pikas
anyone? - Christina Pikas
Do you have the Papers Invited database? It has a lot of conferences in it so you could poke around by subject. - John Dupuis
Elsevier has a list of conferences that they know about. Maybe these are conference that they exhibit at? http://www.globaleventslist.el... - Joe
Meg VMeg
AN ENTIRE RIBBON OF GLIDING GELS
bzuh? - RepoRat
Stupid ads for ladies in front of lady-oriented YouTube videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Meg VMeg
oh. - RepoRat
Ha ha. I had 3 guesses for where the gel went ( skis, roller pens, and the obvious ...) and was completely wrong :) - Christina Pikas from iPhone
RAZORS! - kendrak
Jason Griffey
Excited to be at the #code4libdc Unconference today, especially sans kidney stone.
I had hoped to go :( - Christina Pikas
laura x
Who would like to come over for banana pancakes? #toddlerx is not a fan. I have tons.
ohh ohh me! I would! - Sir Shuping is just sir
I'm anti-banana, except when I'm not. I suspect that makes me toddler-like. ;) - ellbeecee from Android
Let me just fire up the teleporter. - Julian
I would, but I'm on #TeamToddlerX. - Lisa L. Seifert from iPhone
I'd love some! But maybe just put them in foil in the freezer for easy morning breakfast. - Yvonne from FFHound!
I'd eat them. Would toddlerx like mr and ms 2's sandwiches? Turkey, havarti, mayo,tomato, lettuce. One top bun may be missing - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Christina, possibly, but it's hard to say. I'm really happy to eat all the pancakes. - laura x from iPhone
May I add some strawberries and a splash of chocolate syrup? - LB's 10:19pm Name Change from Android
May I add ice cream and chocolate syrup? - April Russo
Anything you like, if you bring it. :) I have strawberries, blueberries, butter, and real maple syrup (grade B!) here. - laura x
Leftovers in the morning! - laura x from iPhone
Meg VMeg
My ideal day these days: Wake up at 8. Poke around on internet & drink iced coffee. Go running. Poke around on internet while eating large arugula salad and drinking seltzer. Work on interesting research project (without concrete deadline) while random shows/movies are playing on tv....
Drink beer while continuing to work on interesting research project, poking around on internet, and chatting with BFFs while random shows/movies are playing on tv. Order in amazingly cheap and delicious food and chat with BFFs. Drink beer while continuing to work on interesting research project and poking around on internet (again). Bedtime at 11. - Meg VMeg
that is my ideal day too. only replace running with swimming. - jambina
Living the dream. - Steele Lawman
Yeah, and today there are lots of action movies on, all featuring Denzel Washington, so it's kind of like there's one really, really long Denzel Washington action movie playing in the background, which continuity is surprisingly soothing. - Meg VMeg
If left to my own devices I could totally go to bed at probably like 9:30-10 and wake up at 6 or 7. I would dig running, too, and the weather for running would always be like 55-60 and slightly overcast but no humidity at all. - Christina Pikas
Sounds awesome. I too would replace the running with swimming, and the beer with wine. - Corinne L
Andrew C (✔)
RT @billmon1: This is unconfirmed, but all too believable --> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news... https://twitter.com/billmon...
RT @billmon1: This is unconfirmed, but all too believable --> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11023915/Iraq-crisis-150000-Yezidi-Kurds-refugees-surrounded-by-Islamic-extremists.html http://t.co/KWvQsJIW4n
would MREs explode? would anything ever hurt an MRE? - Christina Pikas
I could see one bursting and spilling its contents if dropped from 15,000 feet. - John (bird whisperer)
Aaron the Librarian
Work signed me up and paid for a Data Management online course (good) while I'm not on the clock (not so good) but I've wanted to bone up on Data Management options for a while (so, overall: good). anyone got a pile of data they want help making a plan for? (it's an assignemnt, I would get credit for helping you)
anyone got a pile of research data they want help making a plan for? (it's an assignemnt, I would get credit for helping you) - Aaron the Librarian
i have ideas about data i would like to collect into a pile but no time to make said pile much less make a plan for it :( - LibrarianOnTheLoose
Right - I have library statistics data - but that is not "someone who is not [me]" and not "research data" is envisioned for this course. I'm sort of at a loss for who to ask... the faculty are still mostly gone for the summer - Aaron the Librarian
can you go shopping on an open repository or do you have to collaborate with the data people - Christina Pikas
I've got some research I'd kinda like to do but I'm not going to have time to even start putting out feelers for whether it's possible to gather the required data for at least a month. At least. - Deborah Fitchett
i'll have some substantial data to manage, but not until December probably... - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Meg VMeg
Got tailed by neighborhood security for taking phone pics (from the sidewalk!) of some of the crazy mansions. Lol, dude, don't put crazy mansions in the middle of Brooklyn then. Sorry I'm reusing an IKEA bag and wearing sneakers with no socks.
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wow. gorgeous. - jambina
It is unreal. I could look at them for hours. So many strange porches and columns and cupolas. Cupolae? - Meg VMeg
Are you in the Bay Ridge section? *cough* mafia *cough - Janet from FFHound!
Wow, these are in Brooklyn ? I can't even imagine what they cost and what taxes must be - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Kensington? Midwood? - ♫Robot Chicken, Trainer♫ from FFHound!
Ditmas Park! It looks like they go for anywhere $1-3million: http://ny.curbed.com/archive... No idea what the taxes would be like. - Meg VMeg
Freeda B.
Does anyone have any examples of libraries that prepare creative, effective, or otherwise remarkable annual reports (and make them available to the public)?
Was this a rhetorical question? <d&r> - Deborah Fitchett
Haha, sadly, no it was not. - Freeda B.
I don't think I've ever read a library's annual report - Christina Pikas
I have, a couple of them (local public libraries), but none that I'd call remarkable. "Serviceable and in reasonably clear English" is enough of a hurdle in most cases. - Walt Crawford
Ours are pretty fancypants: http://library.lmu.edu/general... - Marie
Was it Aaron Schmidt (Walking Paper) who did something really fun, or is my memory failing? I'll check when I get to work. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
i think it was Topeka that had one a few years back that made everyone oooohaaaah - jambina
Our annual report will kick your annual reports' ass. http://hcplonline.org/about... - ♫Robot Chicken, Trainer♫
Thanks, y'all. I also like this one, not fancy, but better functionality than usual: http://law.okcu.libguides.com/annualr... - Freeda B.
Christina Pikas
Skitch linked to my 2007 blogspot blog post on weeding saying it was "wonderful" - Jill O'N, btw. No need to click through to Skitch, but kinda cool she thinks the post is wonderful. If only she had linked to Scientopia :(
here's the scientopia re-post: http://scientopia.org/blogs... - Christina Pikas
Richard MacManus
Augmented Chat: Emu Acquired By Google - http://ricm.ac/2014/08/07/emu
This would be cooler without the : - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Jessie
Wikipedia refuses to delete photo as 'monkey owns it' - Telegraph - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technol...
Wikipedia refuses to delete photo as 'monkey owns it' - Telegraph
"Wikimedia, the organisation behind Wikipedia, has refused a photographer’s repeated requests to remove one of his images which is used online without his permission, claiming that because a monkey pressed the shutter button it owns the copyright." - Jessie from Bookmarklet
You found pictures of me! - imabonehead
" Mr Slater now faces an estimated £10,000 legal bill to take the matter to court. “If the monkey took it, it owns copyright, not me, that’s their basic argument. What they don’t realise is that it needs a court to decide that,” he said. The image has been removed in the past when he complained, but different editors regularly upload it once again. “Some of their editors think it should... more... - Jessie
So the camera should own the copyright? - Todd Hoff
If you're willing to rule that monkeys are no more sentient than cameras (or perhaps to rule that non-humans are not allowed to own copyright.) - Victor Ganata
Surely there must be a case where there's a copyright dispute between a toddler and an adult in similar circumstances, though. That would be an obvious precedent. - Victor Ganata
If Wikipedia's argument were allowed to stand, it could open up other questions about motion-sensitive or infrared-sensitive cameras. Could owners of those cameras see their copyrights disappear because they didn't physically trigger the shutter? - John (bird whisperer)
Maybe, but I don't think that's the dispute. I actually think the dispute is whether or not sentients (who are not necessarily sapients) can own copyright. Like, it's obvious that if I set a timer to take a picture, that I still own copyright, but if a toddler presses a button on a camera, who owns the copyright now? - Victor Ganata
In any case, Wikipedia's argument is still problematic because regardless of who owns the copyright, it's not in public domain, and there's no way they can ask a monkey for a license. - Victor Ganata
=))))))))))))))))) - جواد
I bet the monkey would grant them a license for a few bananas. Seems like a pretty silly thing to go all ape over - All You Can Arcade from Android
I mean, sure, I could think of a lot better ways to spend £10,000 (and whatever taxpayer money) but since the courts are considering it…. - Victor Ganata
If the photographer did give the monkey some food, it might have even been work for hire! - Christina Pikas
Did the monkey sign a release? - Todd Hoff
The bigger issue is whether monkeys have legal rights to ownership. I'm pretty sure they don't. - Glen Campbell
As a duly court-appointed expert monkey-whisperer, I am counsel for the referenced simian, who hereby wishes to express his heartfelt desire to retain all rights and privileges associated with the photographic image under discussion. Kindly remit payment at once to my monkey client, care of me. - Stephen Mack
Lengthy court case *SPOILER*: STATUE OF LIBERTY. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
You just *know* the barristers/solicitors are going to milk this thing for all its worth and then some :D - Victor Ganata
Walt Crawford
Another reportorial inquiry related to my "research" projects on OA. We'll see what this leads to, if anything. (As background, I am now informed that J. Beall does not read what I write. This does not surprise me.)
Maybe this one will lead to a mention (and a link, which may have interesting effects on C&I stats). - Walt Crawford
hope so! - Christina Pikas
I sincerely hope Bealle doesn't get confused about how US law defines "defamation" and copyright like a comic artist has recently http://www.themarysue.com/escher-... ("I don't like it! you're being mean! I'm gonna sue you!") - barbara fister
That's funny: My wife's first comment was "I hope you're not going to get sued." Seems unlikely, partly because I don't accuse Beall of anything, maybe more because Beall himself once received a threat-of-suit letter from a publisher (which drew lots of support for him, as it should have). - Walt Crawford
I should clarify: This story would, if it mentions me at all, be mentioning the list investigation, not the "sad case of Jeffrey Beall." Not that I believe either one is even remotely actionable under U.S. law. - Walt Crawford
I forgot one other thing: If there's a mention at all, it will only be mentioning the "only around 900 of the journals from Beall's list are in DOAJ," and Beall doesn't disagree with that. So I'm not terribly worried... - Walt Crawford
Megan loves summer
I've been a busy bee and haven't been lurking here as much as usual. Has this "postdoc free access program" from Elsevier been discussed yet? http://www.elsevier.com/journal.... Jobless PhDs can apply for free access to ScienceDirect materials "in their field" for 6 months. Hmm.
I wish I had art talent. This is begging for an editorial cartoon. - RepoRat
i saw it, but didn't get around to posting. - Christina Pikas
Christina Pikas
Did someone already post DOE Public Access plan? essentially goes with Chorus (sad trombone). http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...
statement on digital data management: http://science.energy.gov/funding... - Christina Pikas
can somebody define "published" for me? - kendrak
yeah, somebody on Twitter called that ambiguity out. who TF knows what they mean by it. pretty clear that DOE wants to obey the letter rather than the spirit of the law here -- which I think we-the-OA-movement could have anticipated better. *sigh* - RepoRat
well, given all of my discussions with feds recently, none of this surprises me. which is why i also want to define "published", because it's vague but important and they're avoiding it. - kendrak
there was a piece in the asist bulletin that just came out - a report of a conference panel - it sounded like from there that nsf has zero intention of developing their own repository. they'd be ripe for chorus, too. - Christina Pikas
Mr. Gunn
CHORUS is now live - how does it stack up to PubMed? - http://enjoythedisruption.com/post...
i'm gonna guess before clicking: poorly? - Christina Pikas
The answer is that it fails for the time being. - Joe
Walt Crawford
Am I wrong to feel irritable when a free service, where I was encouraged to sign up, says it's going to charge (I've never really used it)--and the site offers no way to say "Remove my account"? (I've sent support email. Clearly, they won't/can't actually charge me, but I don't care for the Second Life "Hotel California" model.)
Not naming the service for now, because they seemed sincere about trying to do the right thing. - Walt Crawford
They took care of this rapidly, so I still won't name the service (which I suspect is an excellent one for some folks, just not for me). - Walt Crawford
I'm not sure they've completely thought through all that and they didn't set it up that way from the beginning so they're trying to retrofit? I'm not sure what i'm going to do because i really can't pay that right now, but I want to and I don't want a waiver. - Christina Pikas
I'm trying to decide because most of the things I have on it aren't 'traditional scholarly' enough for it to really understand so I have conference papers labeled as articles, articles labelled as unknown, all the things labelled as webpages, and a whole failure of deduplication. Which isn't that the system sucks so much as that my stuff's a mess, but I can't manually fix it. --I am more likely to go with the annual subscription model they've just announced. - Deborah Fitchett
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