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Those of you who work in academic libraries that use systems such as RefWorks--how did you overcome objections? 2 objections at MPOW are a) cost & b) differing faculty needs/preferences.
We've had RefWorks since before I got here. I don't like it. Most of the medical liaisons also have at least basic familiarity with EndNote because it's popular on this sideof campus. A few people scattered around know Zotero (me). There's a list somewhere of people in lib with expertise. We're all expected to be able to teach Refworks and we refer otherwise. - Hedgehog
I'm really skeptical about Flow and all the improvements they've promised for years that I've not seen much delivery on. ("it's coming real soon now" seems to be a common theme) - Hedgehog
Can you just do Zotero then? And if people complain, you can say "but now we can spend all that money on X!!!!" - Meg VMeg from Android
We dropped refworks because it's not worth the money and Zotero and Mendeley are both better, even their free levels than RefWorks. - DJF
We support Zotero, Mendeley and EndNote. Because those are all free for us, and we have librarians who use them (We turned Flow off, and will have to figure out how to make everyone responsible for it if we choose to turn it back on) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Are the objections to adding, removing, supporting...?? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
We are also dropping RefWorks. It is powerful, but usability is poor and the whole thing is outdated and super clunky. - maʀtha
If you do systematic reviews IMO you need either full endnote (no freebie ) or refworks. Zotero and mendeley aren't enough. Unfortunately I think rw bogs down with accounts with > ~5000 records - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Why no Zotero for systematic reviews? I can't think of any functionality it's lacking at this point, compared to Endnote, when it comes to systematic reviews. Smart groups, is that it? Because you could save Advanced searches in group libraries for that: - Meg VMeg
Ken Morley
Teaching human evolution at the University of Kentucky: There are some students I’ll never reach. -
Teaching human evolution at the University of Kentucky: There are some students I’ll never reach.
"One student explained that as a devout Catholic he had no choice but to reject evolution. He accused me of fabricating the pope’s statements. When I explained that he could go to the Vatican website for verification or call the Vatican to talk to a scientist, he insisted that there was no such information available from the Vatican. He then pointed his finger at me and said the only way he would believe me is if then–Pope John Paul II came to my class to confirm these quotes face-to-face. The student then stomped out, again slamming the auditorium door behind him." - Ken Morley
And if the pope did show up more excuses would be sure to follow. - Todd Hoff
I was surprised to learn the Vatican has it's own astrophysicist - Ken Morley
It was like this in New Mexico, as well. I tried to get students to realize they could accept evolution and still be Christians. Some could, but many couldn't. - Jenny H. from Android
Ref. #9 on Robin Williams' "10 best things about being an Episcopalian" list: You get to believe in God *and* dinosaurs. - Technodad
He believes in Zombie Pope, however. - Michael W. May
Not just an astrophysicist, they have an full fledged observatory. - Joe
It distresses me that being "Christian" has become synonymous with "closed minded." - MoTO Boychick Devil
+1 to moto - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Christina Pikas
why is it children and dogs always move themselves off of carefully prepared impervious surfaces when they throw up? even when they weren't moving before?
:( - Anne Bouey
Cats too. - Amit Patel
^oh yeah. i had blocked memories of carrying my cat to the linoleum while she was yakking. - Christina Pikas
Yeah, when we hear the Danger Signs, we try to get the cat off the carpet or rug, onto the tiled floor, and hold him (whichever one it is). Our house is about 80% tiled floor; I'd say the cats manage to barf on carpet or rug about 70% of the time. - walt crawford
One of the things I love most about my cat is her preference to yak on the hardwood. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Semi-related: We have to thank the folks here who mentioned the Furminator. It's reduced our Maine Coon's digestive problems and yakking by 90%, I think. (Every other day, my wife removes a sizable pile...) If we'd known about it/if it existed years earlier, the cat might have avoided pancreatitis. - walt crawford
Agree or disagree? Financial databases like CapitalIQ, bloomberg, WRDS etc are generally harder to use then article databases/eJournal platforms eg Academic search Premier, Sciencedirect etc where things are getting standardised. EDIT I only noticed because my new place a Business Uni has tons more of such stuff than my old one.
yes. very much agree. i feel like financial databases are getting more and more granular in what/how you can search, but each one has to have their unique twist on how/what's available. - ellbeecee
Yes. I think they aren't putting as much effort into ux - Christina Pikas from iPhone
That too, Christina. I'm of the opinion they feel like the user needs to adapt to them, rather than the other way around. I'm looking at you in particular, ThomsonOne. - ellbeecee
i've been amazed at how poor Lexis-Nexis is for that matter. - Christina Pikas
abso-fucking-lutely! Let's not even talk about Thomson One, which has AMAZING info but *only* works on PC, and ONLY on Internet Explorer. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I'm so curious how/whether the market for these things affects their usability. Like, is the content really so unique that they can just do whatever they want with the interface/functionality? - Meg VMeg
Yes, absolutely! - Galadriel C.
Basically article databases have to pull their socks up under pressure from Google Google Scholar which are perceived as substitutes. The financial databases (actually Capital IQ is not that bad compared to the rest), spot interfaces that look like they haven't been updated since the 80s or 90s. I would also guess the main customers for such tools are not academic libraries users but... more... - aaron
Meg, part of it is they've each cornered this (relatively) small portion of the financial information market, and when people need this particular piece of information, that's where they go. That said, I think they're moving closer together in the content they offer. I've heard rumblings that ThomsonOne will go away and institutions will be required to go to Thomson Reuters Eikon... more... - ellbeecee
Yeah, so maybe the question is why SciFinder Scholar works so much better, since they've also cornered a market. - Meg VMeg
Pressure from reaxys. - Christina Pikas from iPhone
True, but that's still only two key players. Maybe the financial databases have some sort of secret oligopolistic agreement to have sucky interfaces, because it's cheaper to have sucky interfaces? Like the flipside to price-fixing. - Meg VMeg
business inertia + high cost is my guess. If only a relatively few people in your organization have access to something because the cost is so high and they know how to use it just fine thankyouverymuch, where's the pressure to improve the interfaces at all? Academic users aren't the bread and butter for the owners of these databases. - ellbeecee
Especially if the ones who know how to use it see that skill as job security. - RepoRat
particularly in industries where job insecurity is the norm, RR. - ellbeecee
absolutely. - RepoRat
On bright side job security for us librarians. It looks so intimidating even some faculty ask for help. - aaron from Flucso
At a UX event last year featuring the lead UX person at Bloomberg, I asked if it was true that the finance types who spend all day on them liked the interfaces that way. He said yes, that there is a sense of pride in having mastered the screens and commands and that any effort to tinker in minor ways is met with lots of pushback from the users. Academic subscriptions to finance... more... - Stephen Francoeur from Android
That (what Stephen just said) makes sense for Bloomberg's clientele--not only the sense of pride but these people probably have the interface's intricacies in their "muscle memory." - walt crawford
Andrew C (✔)
Coach went off the air in 1997. NBC wants to bring it back: 30 Rock was right.
Wait a minute. His 18 year old son is now the head coach at any Ivy League school? I realize that there are many more important issues that I should be concerned about, but that one caught my eye. - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
There is now a Minnesota State Univ, so they may have to change the name of the pretend school. I don't think there was an MSU at the time of the original coach. - Joe
I thought the pretend school was Montana State - Christina Pikas
MN I remember since I was thinking they could also do a Wisconsin State Univ, since that didn't and still doesn't exist. - Joe
Well, it sounds like he won't be involved with Minnesota State University in this new incarnation, anyway; he'll be working at his son's school. - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
Sarah G.
Hope that's a good WELP... - Hedgehog
Just my reaction to the Team Harpy news. - Sarah G.
yeah, that's about where I'm at too. - RepoRat
Oh. Yeah. - Catherine Pellegrino
Ahh. Yes. Yeah.... - Hedgehog
is there anything more than the statements on the wordpress blog? - Christina Pikas
I wonder if the dollar amount was reduced or zeroed. - Joe
not that I've seen, Christina, speculation on Twitter and elsewhere aside. - RepoRat
:-/ - lris from Android
Andrew C (✔)
Shades of grey I can name: slate, gunmetal, concrete, ash, "nearly black", "almost white", silvery, "dark", "light" … "grey". D'oh.
Damn it, now I had to look it up. - Victor Ganata
TIL so far: gainsboro, Spanish gray (gris) - Victor Ganata
Heh. Confederate gray. - Victor Ganata
Cinereous sounds pretty cool. - Victor Ganata
Charcoal, heather, gravel, dust, mist, steel, elephant - Jennifer Dittrich
"kinda blue in the right light" - Steve C, Team Marina
battleship, English sky - Pete's Got To Go
I will accept "charcoal" and "steel" and I guess "elephant" as ones I knew at one point but forgot while writing the original tweet. The rest seem sketchy to me. - Andrew C (✔)
Earl - Brent Schaus from iPhone
Jennifer. - Anika
navy has: haze gray, deck gray, machinery gray (maybe others?) - Christina Pikas
I think Brent wins. :D - Anne Bouey
"About A Dozen Shades of Grey That I Can Name" -- a list-form novel of bondage and quick buck making by Andrew C. - Stephen Mack
list form novels: the "long form" of listicles. - Andrew C (✔)
Windows taskbar gray, old faded black jeans gray, senior hair gray, my black marker is running out of ink gray, overcooked steak gray - April Russo (FForever!)
Heather gray. - Joe
Davis. Spalding. Anatomy. - Corinne L
Jean - Jessie
Joel Grey, Macy Gray - Greg GuitarBuster
Luis Gray - That's So CAJ!
Kiss from a rose on the Gray - Micah from FFHound!
Also vaguely related: shades of white. - Andrew C (✔)
Wish I'd thought of this: - Andrew C (✔)
John Dupuis
A particularly ironic entry into the Open Access *Headdesk* Publishing Club (or whatever it's called): The open access advantage considering citation, article usage and social media attention:
There is an arXiv version at which was deposited yesterday. - Joe
Odd that google scholar doesn't link to this. Found it in the regular google search engine. I would have thought that GS indexed the arXiv... - Joe
Thanks for finding it, Joe, I should have looked. I guess Scientometrics is the core journal for this kind of thing so I guess I can't complain too much. - John Dupuis
Scientometrics is a joke and a half. - Meg VMeg
^ I think it's more of a hodge podge. Some are better than others. - Christina Pikas
Could be I've only seen the cringeworthy. - Meg VMeg
It seems that it's a community that is obsessed with Measuring All The Things, whether or not the data/methodology they have at hand actually measures the thing they think they're measuring. Which not surprisingly leads to a lot of cringeworthy but probably some decent stuff too. - John Dupuis
Mary Carmen
I've accepted that we've ruined her by letting her sleep in our bed. She slept the entire night with her feet between our heads and her head kinda under the covers. This kid.
Apparently she will sleep all night in our bed. Yesterday this entire family slept in until 10 and it was glorious. - Mary Carmen from iPhone
Nowt wrong with co-sleeping. We did that with our kids and they both had rather painless transitions to sleeping alone in their own beds later on. - Big Joe Silenced from Android
I've done co-sleeping with all three of my boys. No regrets. - Jenny H.
You learn to sleep with toes in your eyes and knees in your back. It's almost restful... - MoTO Boychick Devil
Just make sure you have a big enough bed. This arrangement could last for years. - ♫Maurice the Dolphin♫ from FFHound!
The 6yo slept with one or both of us until he was 3, and then on a mattress beside our bed until he was 4 b/c it meant more sleep for everyone. I don't miss the nightly wakings one bit, but b/c he was with/by us, I do have fond memories of some epic and hilarious middle-of-the-night philosophical discussions. - Galadriel C.
As the leader of my mom's group used to say, "Do what maximizes sleep for the whole family." Plus, middle of the night snuggles are the best. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
Hey, if it means you're all sleeping, NEVER STOP. - Melly
had to boot mr3 last night because he was running his choo-choo train up my back... but besides that. - Christina Pikas
I'm loving this thread. - Big Joe Silenced from Android
We have a cal-king. Between two adults, three cats and one toddler we fit fine. Can't wait to add another kid into the mix. - Mary Carmen from iPhone
Quick wiki editing question: I have a link whose text has a / in the middle of it (Tips for using the storage inventory/How to handle a storage request). The wiki in Sharepoint is treating it as a file path. I tried replacing it with ascii code / but it replaces it with a slash and treats it as a file path. Help?
I don't *have* to have both parts of the title, but I'd still like to know how to do this. - bentley
welp, I don't know how to escape things in Sharepoint specifically, but try doubling the slash to // and see if it helps. - RepoRat
Use a backslash before the forward-slash. '\/', like that or replace the forward with a backslash? - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Nope. And nope. I think I'm just going to remove the first part and leave it be for now. Thanks for the help. Heading home now. I'll try to figure it out tomorrow maybe. - bentley
Oin other words, Sharepoints continues to suck in new and creative ways that the rest of the world figured out twenty years ago. - DJF
Yep. Microsoft being "helpful" and all. - bentley
Did you have spaces on either side of it? I can ask our guru tomorrow to see what she says. i had sp. - Christina Pikas
Thanks. I don't remember if I tried spaces. - bentley
Meg VMeg
Sometimes I randomly take the quizzes in whatever Coursera class I'm currently signed up for, but have never participated in. Just to see.
do you pass? - kendrak
I just got 10/12 on the second quiz for Data Analysis and Statistical Inference! - Meg VMeg
This seems like a less high-stakes version of all the achievement tests my mom took "for fun." - laura x
i think in the jhu ones you can take the quiz 4 times so you can pass by trial and error. if you want to. - Christina Pikas
I cannot imagine having the perseverance to do that. - Meg VMeg
Is it just me, or are some vendors really ramping up their pre-conference pitches? One particular one has called me every day this week, keeps emailing to ask for an appointment, and now left a voicemail saying every existing customer who brings a non-customer librarian to the booth gets an iPad. This is beyond.
wait, whut? really.? that's a bunch of iPads. - Christina Pikas
Yeah, it sounds crazy. Like, do they mean one iPad per customer institution, or individual? We're customers of this company and are sending 13 librarians to ACRL. Theoretically, that could be $6500 worth of iPads if they mean what they say. It was clearly not a drawing but "we will give you an iPad." - kaijsa
I am so annoyed that I don't want to even talk to them to find out, btw. - kaijsa
Now I know where all my subscription money is going.... - lris
This is an equipment vendor. - kaijsa
so. many. cold. calls. it is ridiculous. - Marie
i'm not registered for ACRL, but I've gotten about as many emails from vendors about that as I do for ALA (which I do attend) - ~Courtney F
I have not been hit up for ACRL. I am TOTALLY okay with that. The ALA onslaught is going to start shortly - Hedgehog
I got an email coupon from vendor in question with the line, "a non-customer institution cannot be used more than once with this gift program." So I guess the limit applies the other way. So weird. - kaijsa
Stephan Planken
Oh Adobe, I still hate you.
Oh Adobe, I still hate you.
First the software updater redirects to a fucking website. - Stephan Planken
Then you need to download an installer stub. - Stephan Planken
Then I need to adapt the firewall because the installer has a different name than the last time. - Stephan Planken
Then it opens another URL in IE, even though that is not my default browser. Fuck you, Adobe. Fuck you. - Stephan Planken
(I have never used that many profanities here, it's about time!) - Stephan Planken
(Oh, and I didn't even mention the sneaky check box for that horrible "thing".) - Stephan Planken
Don't forget to unchecked the optional offer. - imabonehead from Android
Opens for me in ff and invariably makes it so I can't restore session - Christina Pikas from iPhone
I should clarify: Initially it directs to the Adobe site in FF, but once the installation completes and it points to other services it opens that in IE. - Stephan Planken
I also hate the whole "An important security update is available please update flash..." o god I just updated it yesterday, still another security issue? Goddamns Adobe, would you develop a more secure software instead of keep patching the holes every damn week. - bezdomnyj82 from Flucso
It's time that Flash is put out to pasture. - Stephan Planken
or out of its misery - bezdomnyj82 from Flucso
Why hasn't someone replaced this shit yet? (Yes, I know Microsoft tried with Silverlight, but that really isn't much better) - April Russo (FForever!)
The only site that uses thst is the corporate Outlook web interface. I uninstalled that long ago. Flash I can't do without, too many sites using it. - Stephan Planken from iPhone
Adobe seems to be trying to get people to stop using Flash. - Amit Patel
I would be happy to stop using Flash if Hulu, Comedy Central and others would stop using it. - Spidra Webster
I'm not sure how companies could be enticed to drop it if they haven't already done so. - Stephan Planken from iPhone
Still heavily used in the world of Facebook games. - April Russo (FForever!)
for video embedding flash is totally obsoleted by the html5 video tag and the js libraries built around it; on the other hand, for online games, animations and interactive multimedia content html5 canvas is still not enough, as far as I know there isn't any authoring tool that can fully replace flash yet. - vic
As someone that works in customer support for a company that offers video courses, I can tell you that for embedded video, HTML5 has not totally obsoleted flash. There are still a number of people using older browsers where it doesn't work well, if at all, that we still have to provide a flash option, just for them. We'd probably phase it out completely if what we were offering was for... more... - April Russo (FForever!)
yes, I mean obsoleted in terms of functionality and ease of use (also from a developer point of view). Of course support for older browsers is another issue, but I cited js libraries (like video.js) exactly because they dinamically provide an alternative flash player in case the browser doesn't support html5. - vic
So many sites that are still using it. Sophie does her kindergarten reading via Flash, for example. - Stephan Planken from iPhone
Meg VMeg
You guys, I can't brown onions anymore. It's like too much water comes out? It's hard to build up fond, because the water from the onions deglazes everything. Ugh, what am I doing wrong.
When I've had that problem it is usually because I've crowded the pan and it can't keep the right level of heat. Also, recipes are big liars when it comes to how long it takes to brown (or worse caramelize) onions. - Jennifer Dittrich
I'd think more heat + more space. I hate that. - laura x from iPhone
Yeah, maybe my stoves have gotten less hot or something. - Meg VMeg
Are they electric burners? I know those can lose the ability to heat as well over time. - Jennifer Dittrich
Gas, but I've moved apartments twice. - Meg VMeg
Ah, that could do it, if the output is lower. - Jennifer Dittrich
Try different burners on the stove too. Two of mine are supposed to be the same but they're not - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Just cook out the water. It might speed things up to microwave the onions at first, or add a little water and cover so steam cooks them. Then, when the onions are releasing liquid, uncover and let 'em cook, stirring so they don't burn at the bottom. - Andrew C (✔)
Eventually it'll build a fond and then you might want to actually add water, deglaze, and build a second or third fond for more flavor. - Andrew C (✔)
According to stats, the FF backup and render apps have been downloaded over 600 times. 85% Windows version, 15% OS X.
I could get that OS X number up if I could make it work on Snow Leopard. I'm trying to figure out if I can upgrade without breaking some of my expensive boughten software. - Spidra Webster
Spidra, do you want me to run a backup for you and give you a zip file to download when it's done? - Micah
(I forget: did yours include my comments?) - bentley
bentley, not sure what you mean. - Micah
If I were to download my feed using your thingie, would it include My Discussions? (Sorry, I phrased it badly earlier.) - bentley
Micah, that would be FANTASTIC. - Spidra Webster
@bentley - it does include comments on your posts - Christina Pikas
I mean the comments that I've made on other people's posts. Claudio's thing gave that as an option but I was told it tended to choke on that. - bentley
I successfully exported and converted 61 pages running on OS X 10.9, but the target directory does not show up in Finder. :-( - Nils Sandin
Nils, sometimes it doesn't complete ot can't create the files on a particular system. Did you try running again? Also, if you want I can run it for you a give a zip of your backup to download. - Micah from iPhone
The target directory is inside of the app, so you can't see it with Finder (was my problem at least, before I figured out how to look inside the app). - Meg VMeg
So if it's inside the app, how can I access it independently? - Nils Sandin
HOW TO MANUALLY FIND YOU DATA DIRECTORY: Ctrl-Click the icon > Show Package Contents > then drill down through directories: Contents > MacOS > www. In www you should have ff_stream_<your username>.json — this is your raw data. Also: html_output folder has all your HTML files if you converted the data with the app. The ff_media folder has all the images and attachment files. - Micah from iPhone
I already downloaded but I'm going to try this because now I'm curious. :) - Stephan Planken from iPhone
Thanks Micah! - Nils Sandin
Sarah G.
My dad does the play by play as well as provide color commentary. Which is impressive, since he doesn't really understand basketball.
He even provides commentary when Mr 13 goes out for the captains meeting with refs before game - sglassme
He and the old lady are drinking Cuba libres now so it's getting worse. Also now providing commentary for the Canada geese on my deck. - Sarah G.
At least they are happy drunks - sglassme
I love Smiley - MoTO Boychick Devil from Android
me, too - Christina Pikas
~Courtney F
"Vendor: We can't turn on access until you pay" Me: "We can't pay without an invoice."
Why is this so hard? - ~Courtney F
*headdesk* - Catherine Pellegrino
them: "we can't turn it on until we have a signed license" us: "send us the license""send us a license we can accept based on our dealings with you over our 70 year existence""do you really need a license addendum for each additional book on your platform?" - Christina Pikas
I sometimes feel this way getting quotes from vendors. Don't you want me to spend money with you? - John: Thread Killer
them: we sent you an invoice, please pay. us: we have required state forms that must be completed before we can pay an invoice. we sent them three months ago; please complete them - we want to pay you. - Galadriel C.
"send us a license we can accept based our our dealings with you over our 70 year existence" YES! +1000. Why do we always have to start from the boilerplate when we ALWAYS ask for the same changes? - Grumpator
cause THIS time will be different. we'll accept any liability, any venue... and promise our kids will eat their broccoli and go to bed at 7:30 - Christina Pikas
I just got an invoice forwarded to me that is dated 04-2014 and has been circling the university like a hot potato for nearly a year; I called the vendor as it's unclear what it's even for. That was two days ago and I'm still waiting for a response. They clearly don't want our money. - Jen
Quietly shred that invoice, Jen. If you don;t hear back about it, it's all good - Aaron the Librarian
Writing a letter to the IRS because they misread $700.00 reported as non-employee compensation to me as $70,000 and are charging me $33,366 in back taxes because of it. Just another day in the life of the Webgoddess.
So, it was the IRS's mistake, it wasn't reported to them wrong? - Christa
Right - I got a copy of the 1099-MISC and it was reported correctly. - WebGoddess
Heh. Nice. - Christa
Good grief. - AHnix (Anna Haro)
Eeep! - vicster.
Whoa - Christina Pikas from iPhone
It seems like someone would check an error that egregious before contacting you. In theory. - Hedgehog
o_O I hope they can sort it out quickly! - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Quickly is not a feature of the IRS. The key is to not panic. - Eric - Final Countdown
LSW: Joe
What did I learn from the LSW group and from the Wider FF community?
I learned that there are others who feel the same way I do about life, things and stuff. And I love you all for it. Heck, I even love [most] of the FF people who don't feel the same way. - Joe
God. So much. - laura x
most of what I know - lris
That not everybody hates me? - RepoRat
So so much. - Christina Pikas from iPhone
that my colleagues are funny, smart, in touch, and willing to lend a hand instantly - and that the world is not so grim a place after all. - barbara fister
All of the above. LSW restored my faith in librarianship. :-) - Megan loves summer
...pretty much everything I know about libraries...and technology...and what happens when social hits technological... - Cameron Neylon
So much, and so much that's kept me going. (OK if I mine this thread for my C&I reminiscence?) - walt crawford
That there are people who think like me, and people who don't, and there's a place for us all. That organisation need not mean organised. That people will, and do, lend a hand. - Pete's Got To Go
Walt: mine it as much as you want. - Joe
I've learned so much from the LSW! I feel pretty new around here, but have found the attitudes and passion here really inspiring. It's honestly helped me stand up more for the stuff I believe it at my own place of work. Plus the LSW has given me models for passionate-but-collegial disagreements. And models for robust theorizing about the library, or robust research into library stuff. - Regular Amanda
what it means to have a professional network I can immediately rely on at all hours. - Hedgehog
That ragequit doesn't mean forever. - Rochelle *boom* Hartman from iPhone
I agree with pretty much everything Cameron says here: - John Dupuis
i joined FF almost the day i started my first librarian gig. to me being part of libraryland means seeing all of you on FF daily. - jambina
How awesome non-medical librarians are, and some of the amazing things they're accomplishing every day. - Rachel Walden
To me, and this is mine-able, the great thing about FF was that it was the first place that I saw that really facilitated people interacting that might not have met before. In my case, it was scientists and librarians. We librarians had a chance to see what scientists were really thinking about and really doing at the edges of the open science world and to reflect back and give... more... - John Dupuis
So much - including through all these discussions about migrating content and community to a new site. I love how thoughtful you all are! - Grumpator
What a lot of you have said, but just that you all are my people. I love having a wide network of smart people who will give me advice, agree or disagree with me in meaningful ways, and give me a broader perspective on things. Also, I just like you all. - kaijsa
FF and the LSW is my go to professional network. - ♫Maurice the Dolphin♫
^^^ This. Twitter is useful for knowing what' going on and for links to interesting stuff, but the depth of the conversation here and the capacity to get good help or discussion about an issue - and sense of close community - there's nothing like it. - barbara fister
The ability to say something in more than 140 characters helps me gather my thoughts. Even though other services have threaded discussions like this, the LSW has the right diversity and mix of people for me. The ALATT had a chance to be like the LSW at one point, but that place feels more like a frat house, and people are trying to get the most attention. I know I am generalizing, and there are good libns in ALATT, but the loud ones get the most notice. - Joe
I learned that goodbye does not mean never again hello. Also, I learned that a career is more than just the daily job, as it can have so many facets and directions. - Julian
Who are the cool librarians who know the real deal.. who "get it"... - LibrarianOnTheLoose
^^^ This! Being part of LSW has changed my life. I've found support for incubating ideas, been challenged to grow and expand in a professional humorous way by fun super smart colleagues, and especially during the move and transition to my current place of work, LSW kept me from feeling isolated and alone in my work. - Galadriel C.
How awesome it is to have a tribe that has my back. That not all libraries are dysfunctional. That there are amazing people doing interesting work. That it's ok to have professional heroes/crushes/whatever-you-wanna-call it and sometimes you get to meet them and they have foibles and interior lives and that's cool. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
Like others have said, LSW has restored my faith in the future of librarianship. It's meant more than I can express to have a place to converse with such thoughtful, open people. - Jen
Besides learning the more practical aspects of things, a lot of my thinking on librarianship has been shaped by discussions here eg. IL, open access just to name two. - aaron from Flucso
Just to let folks know: I've put together a first draft of the C&I essay on FF and LSW (too long, but that's C&I: for concise excellence, go to Barbara Fister) and included *almost* all of this thread, names included. The exception: I omitted part of one of Joe's comments because, even though I agree fully with his thoughts on ALATT, I'd just as soon not go there by name this time around. Maybe I've been burned too badly by them. - walt crawford
So: If there's anybody who *doesn't* want your comment used (including your screen name), LET ME KNOW within the next two weeks. The thread reads really well as a closing section of the article. - walt crawford
I'm happy to have my comment and name included, but if you could please use the now slightly edited version I'd appreciate it. - Galadriel C. from Android
Galadriel: Done. - walt crawford
I should really try to say something more intelligent. - laura x from iPhone
LSW reminded that becoming a librarian was the right choice for me and that the job I had when I find this place was not the right choice for me. - John: Thread Killer
Thank you! - Galadriel C. from Android
Okay, here we go: Before I became a librarian or ever thought of it, I was an activist. I organized and demonstrated and got arrested and generally worked my tail off to try to change the world and make people's lives better--sometimes those of my colleagues; sometimes those of people I'd never met. When I started working in libraries, I felt I lost a lot of that. I still believed in... more... - laura x from iPhone
Pete's Got To Go
Here's a room to collate soc media accounts for The Aftertime. Feel free to point people who don't follow me to it.
twitter @reddite arrowvalleyman on google - Pete's Got To Go
Thanks, Pete. You're good people. - Big Joe Silenced from Android and @warmaiden on Google and Twitter - ωαřмaiden ❤Bassetmom❤
@ellbeecee most places, including - ellbeecee
Y'all can guess who I am on Twitter and Facebook. If you start seeing a lot of stuff about raptors, you've guessed wrong: that's the other Walt Crawford. - walt crawford
@hedgielib on Twitter. abigail.goben on FB - Hedgehog
@gchilton on Twitter - Galadriel C. from Android
@tbschaus on Twitter - Brent Schaus
@cpellegr on Twitter. I'm on Facebook but (hopefully) practically unfindable; I may have to rethink that decision. - Catherine Pellegrino
@corinnel on Twitter - Corinne L
@arc315 on Twitter, arc315 on FB & Tumblr (but that's mostly about improv), f---nobaddesign on tumblr (about bad product and other design), - my largely abandoned blog. - Andrew C (✔)
@dupuisj on Twitter, john.dupuis on Facebook but not particularly active there. - John Dupuis
This is me on Facebook: My Twitter profile is here: @k8southern Goodreads is here: - Katy S
@jenn2d2 on both Twitter and Tumblr; Flickr:; Facebook:; I'm more than happy to exchange phone numbers with folks (I'm on WhatsApp, for those who use that.) - Jennifer Dittrich
gohomekiki on both Twitter and Tumblr - Kirsten
@libskrat on Twitter, no FB. - RepoRat
It's really weird but when I go to the room, I can't make a post. Perhaps Facebook has also restricted the creation/operation of new groups? - Spidra Webster
@newrambler on Twitter and I'm on the latter more than the former. - laura x
spidra on Flickr, @may_gun on Twitter - Spidra Webster
sorry, I think that was me not setting it up right... - Pete's Got To Go
ok you shoud be able to create new posts now :) - Pete's Got To Go
@StarsAtNightTX on Twitter & on FB - Kristin
@oajoe - Joe
I have a Twitter list with 158 FFers on it: Kol Tregaskes has a list with 424 FFers on it - Spidra Webster
Facebook, Ello, Google+, tumblr (therunningdude), Twitter (@jwkeith80 and @bat_drunk) - Jed
i'm @joesilence on twitter. - Big Joe Silenced
@weelibrarian. weelibrarian on most other social things - weelibrarian
@jsholman on twitter. - Jen
@micahwittman on twitter - Micah
@cpikas most everywhere I only go to fb when absolutely necessary though - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Thanks, Pete. - Mary B: #TeamMonique
@marissagerding on twitter on facebook - Marissa
I'm marianne reddin aldrich on fb, marianne reddin aldrich on g+, marchinal on flickr, and (truly oldskool) maribou on livejournal. @maribou on twitter but i use it like, 4 times a year... I'm also Marianne on goodreads: - Marianne
@chaz2b pretty much ever where, fb - chaz2b
I am either bigstarlet, treaclelilly or treaclestuff on any social media network you can name. - #cryptic
If everyone let's me know who I've missed I'll add them to my FF Twitter list. - Kol Tregaskes
That's a new one for me. Just saw a teenage boy wearing skinny jeans that seriously needed to be pulled up.
I seem to see that a lot around here (not as a sartorial choice, but because the pants just don't fit correctly.) - Jennifer Dittrich
There was a boy in my grammar school who had no real butt. To this day I remember his full name because of this unfortunate problem. - Spidra Webster
@Spidra Webster it wasn't Hank Hill, was it? :) - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE from WinForFeed
skinny sags have been the style round these parts for a couple years and I want it to die already. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
This is the first time I'd ever seen "skinny sags", and it was extremely disturbing. I feel your pain, Starmama. - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
what I don't get - and i do see it around here - is how you could get on a bus or into a truck or even walk up stairs with skinny jeans with the crotch half way down your thighs? - Christina Pikas
RT @djfiander: Talk proposal: "Undocumented & unexamined confounding factors in academic libraries' ebook user research studies"
interesting! - Christina Pikas
Faved and retweeted so I could get back to the discussion that followed from other prominent members of the library community. - Joe
I am sorry Mr./Ms. sales person, but the library I work at is not interested in purchasing life insurance. IT CAN'T DIE!
yeah, my library could die, unfortunately. goodness knows our director of operations has tried. i don't think the money would help, though - Christina Pikas
Libraries aren't corporations and, therefore, are not people. :P - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
I thought libraries were on their last legs? - ellbeecee
This library has no brain nor a heart, so, I am not sure when a doctor would pronounce it dead. - Joe
Sarah G.
DC people - What's the status of the Cherry Blossoms? Blooming?
I'm going to be there Thursday. - Sarah G.
Well, you will be seeing nekkid trees. - sglassme
that is archive footage. This is what it looked like 4 days ago - sglassme
down town is different because buildings and whatnot but our fruit trees don't even look close. - Christina Pikas
well damn. - Sarah G.
Christina Pikas
Me: do you need to pee? Her: no (x3). Me: come on you'd better pee her: NO! (3x) ... Her: uh-oh accident
:( - Stephen Mack from iPhone
then got her all cleaned up and before we got her dressed me: maybe you better try to go potty again: her: i'm done I don't need to I'm sure [she ends every answer with "i'm sure"]. Me like 5 minutes later: "whew' what's that smell. her:need a new pull up. - Christina Pikas
What makes something "deluxe" as opposed to ordinary?
Generally speaking, yeah, bacon. - Meg VMeg
Or cheese. With pizza, it feels like 2 meats + 3 veggies. - Jennifer Dittrich from iPhone
I've also "deluxe" used to mean that a sandwich comes with fries and a pickle. - John (bird whisperer)
The price. - Micah from iPhone
Sometimes lettuce - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Unless of course we're talking cars--the deluxe is regular and grande luxe is fancier. - laura x
What Micah said. - That's So CAJ!
Unless it's the Grand Royale. In that case it's still just a big cheeseburger. - That's So CAJ!
Long week full of weird/stressful stuff. So now it's time to kick back, watch some stupid TV, and drink a pot of tea. While cuddling a cat of course.
Sister, you ain't never lied. I plan on doing a lot of the same thing this weekend. - Corinne L
*fistbump* except I'm reading a Kindle book instead of TV and the cat is singing The Song Of His People in the basement. - Catherine Pellegrino
yeah, but i'm freaking out about the dissertation and defense scheduling... so no rest til april unless, of course, it ends up being pushed to summer - Christina Pikas
Oof. Good luck!! - lris from Android
laura x
Can I just say a giant FUCK YOU to cancer? Because really. Just fuck it. Two people in one week, both of them much too young. Goddamn it.
I'm so sorry. And, I agree, cancer is an asshole. - AHnix (Anna Haro)
You sure can. - RepoRat
Fuck cancer - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Fuck cancer. - Tamara J. B. from FFHound(roid)!
Fuck cancer. - Heather Piwowar
I'm so sorry. And YEP. Fuck it all the way. - joey
I'm so sorry. Fuck cancer. - Stephen Mack
I'm sorry. *hugs* - Yolanda
Stephen Mack
Enter Scott and MC's Baby Pool! -
Enter Scott and MC's Baby Pool!
Enter Scott and MC's Baby Pool!
I created a baby pool for Scott and MC using our very own Micah's bebepool site. Guess Baby Girl Nyce's birthdate, birthtime, weight, and length! - Stephen Mack from Bookmarklet
What does the winner get???? - Mary Carmen
Uh, I probably should have asked MC and Scott for permission first. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Also, Stephen, 9 pounds, 13 ounces......I HOPE YOU ARE JOKING! - Mary Carmen
I think it's fun, no worries. - Mary Carmen
Phew! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Scott weighed like 10 pounds when he was born. I was 4 weeks early and weighed 4 pounds. I am hoping that she is in the middle of that. - Mary Carmen
Unca Steeben will be sending lots of Time Lord goodies to his favorite little Time Lady. :-) - Steven Perez from Android
Y'all are killing me with the weights. I may have extra padding, but I really am a small person. - Mary Carmen
I just used my niece's info for length/weight. Mostly because of Scott, as her father is tall as well. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
HOLY MOLY!! :))))) - Micah
MC, my oldest and baby brothers were both 9 lb 14 oz :D - Katie
My kids were both long at birth despite their mom being short. Plus: LOOK AT SCOTT JUST LOOK AT HIM (he's tall). - Stephen Mack from iPhone
I know, but I am short! - Mary Carmen
True! I guess we'll find out in November.... - Stephen Mack
Or December ;) - Eric Logan
I thought y'all liked I'm not so sure with these 9 and 10 pound babies. - Mary Carmen
We love ya, MC. But Babby wants pizza. :P - Just another Bubba
I see Scott is hoping for an All Hallows Eve baby. :D - Steven Perez
He wants that or 11/12/13. - Mary Carmen
Bumping this up. It seems like time is flying and this is getting closer. - Mary Carmen
I'm standing firm on my guess. That kid is a Time Lady. - Steven Perez
This bump brought to you by logging into BBB and seeing "89 days left till the baby arrives." I didn't realize we are down to two digits. - Mary Carmen
Whoa! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Crazy! - Mary Carmen
OK, guess who won the baby pool? Go on, guess! It was... HOLLY! Grats, Holly. Results here: - Stephen Mack
Did you see the Average Weight predicted??? Boy were we off!!! - The Other Yvonne from FFHound!
Kudos, holly-boo. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
Damn. I flipped the date and time again. I had the date as 11/23, and the time of birth was 11:23. Stoopid faulty precognition. - Steven Perez
The average weight was off even before Andre the Giant guessed 520 lbs. :-) - bentley
so who won ? - Peter Dawson
aw, i came in second! so close. - Christina Pikas
The 520 lb guess was excluded from the average automatically - I wrote standard deviation-based smoothing code to handle these kinds of occasional joke numbers, so extreme values get thrown out. :) - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
Smart Micah. - bentley
AWWWWWW YEAH. *struts* - holly #ravingfangirl
I got pretty close on the weight! - vicster.
I repeat—Mariella's almost 1½! - Micah
I know, can you believe it. Now we have another one to bet on. - Mary Carmen
Rachel Walden
Ooh, is #askmeanything a thing we're doing before ff shuts down? Ask away.
How often are you asked for medical advice? - Pete's Got To Go
What's the most disturbing thing you've seen in a medical textbook? - Pete's Got To Go
Do you think you'll not own a car again at some point in the future? - laura x
How's the new job? - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Are you still in Nashville? (I don't remember if you've said or not) - ellbeecee
Pete-Somewhat frequently asked for medical advice. The worst is when it's for family members with poor prognoses. - Rachel Walden
Pete-Dermatology atlases are kind of the worst. Eyeball problems bother me. Anything full-color, bloody, and bulging is an issue. - Rachel Walden
Laura-Could definitely see myself going car-free again in the future, especially if I moved to a city with great public transportation. I just couldn't make it here with once-per-hour shuttle buses just in town. - Rachel Walden
Christina and ellbeecee - The new job is amazeballs. :) So no, I'm not in Nashville - I'm in Johnson City, TN which is right by the mountains, an hour from Asheville, NC, and an hour from my parents/where I grew up. Just a few minutes up the road from Jonesborough, TN, where there is a great annual storytelling festival. - Rachel Walden
Pete-I will say that the worst things I've ever seen weren't in medical textbooks, but on rounds and case conference for trauma and emergency medicine. - Rachel Walden
The new job is a step up, management-wise, iirc. Are you happy you took that kind of opportunity? Can you see yourself seeking a directorship at some point? - John Dupuis
Rachel: I love your second response to Pete. When I'm checking OA journals for article counts, there are a bunch of medical journals that show an image with each article/case report listing in the ToCs...and I think I have nightmares some nights thanks to those. - walt crawford
John - Yes - the new position is a directorship, and I'm very happy with it. I am Associate Dean of Learning Resources for the college of medicine; LR includes 3 areas - 1) the medical library; 2) biomedical communications, which is a graphic design and digital print shop housed in the library building; 3) a one-person IT dept. I love it so much, and I am happy every take that I took the leap to come here. - Rachel Walden
Walt - I bet! Horrifying images are one peril of medical librarianship. Self-diagnosis and just knowing too much about medicine/healthcare are the others. :) - Rachel Walden
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