The friendfeed code has been fixed, you'll need to grab it and embed it on your blog again.
- Orli Yakuel
The problem with the Feedflare is that it searches. Looks like that when a post appears on FF it's not indexed yet. Or is it just me? i.e. it works on older posts but not on those I have just published (and have already appeared on FF)
- Zio Bonino
I wasted my day with this code. the feedflare worked great... but I want it the way Pat Hawks blog does it. Waaaaah!
- Noah David Simon
I'm going to be trying this out later on my Tumlelog. Have been trying ineffectually to code up a version based on the WordPress plug-in, but to no avail! :(
- CannonGod
from twhirl
installed the feedflare but does not seem to push down the friendfeed feedbacks to myblog.
- Ouriel Ohayon
Can someone please get this to work with wordpress ( and wordpress.com)???
- Roberto Bonini
I couldn't get that shit working except in feedflare, but I am more curious if anyone else figured out how to get Seesmic working in Blogger. that dudes blog has some cool gadgets.
- Noah David Simon
thx Aldon i love coComment but it ain't workin w/ FireFox 3
- Billy Warhol
I still can't get this working. Am I a dumb ass? using blogger and I don't want to evolve
- Noah David Simon
Lily Sutton Sjogreen was born at 5:05pm on July 4th. She is 9 pounds 8 ounces and 21.5 inches long. She is of course the cutest little girl in the world. Pics to come!
hmm maybe he cannot find them on Internets?
- Fred Grott
After seeing McCain with Jon Stewart 13 or so times, watching him back in 2002 on SNL as a hippie high school teacher, and seeing him on SNL in the last few months making fun of his age, I sorta get the impression he has... well... a sense of humor. He can be a funny guy. Hasn't anybody else noticed?
- Ken Sheppardson
A great divide in contemporary American culture: crony capitalists vs. creative capitalists. Crony capitalists hate creative capitalists and feel threatened by them. That's the subtext here if you dig deeply. The Bush 43 administration (of which McCain is a part) is the last angry gasp of a particular class of crony capitalists who want to annihilate everything that they can't understand or control. The Internet is full-throttle creative capitalism -- it drives these people nuts.
- Sean McBride
Ken - How can a guy this deadly serious, with that rictus grin and ever-present rage, ever make a joke? Does he look like he gets the Internet?
- Sean McBride
Unfortunately his jokes tend to be about hating people and bombing countries. That bomb Iran song was a hoot.
- Kevin Bondelli
This was on December 7, and the clip leaves out a part where he is using a blog as an example, so it is tough to determine whether he was being playful or not. I think the selectiveness of the clip is unfortunate. Anybody know where the whole piece is?
- Dennis E. Hamilton
from twhirl
Ken: I watched the video. McCain can be charming and likable in spurts. He's also a very angry man who is going to push the same war agenda in the Middle East as Bush/Cheney, at the behest of his neoconservative and crony capitalist puppeteers. If you think "Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran" is funny, along with $200 to $400 a barrel oil prices, you'll be impressed by McCain's wit and brilliance. Joseph Lieberman, who knows McCain well, praised him as a "Maccabee" -- an Old Testament holy warrior.
- Sean McBride
@Robert Scoble: McCain's hatred of bloggers is evidence of blogger power. If a guy who can't use a computer feels the impact of bloggers, it's a cause for celebration, no?
- Michael Markman
@Sean McBride: pedantic nit: Maccabee doesn't appear in the Old Testament. He appears in the Apocrypha.
- Michael Markman
There's a massive lack of any kind of a sense of humor going on in this campaign, especially when it comes to McCain. He used a crack about beating his wife when he felt that a reporter asked him a "Have you stopped beating your wife yet, Senator?" question, and he got beat up about it. There have been many similar instances, and maybe this is one, too. I don't particularly like John McCain, but I think everyone needs to stop jumping his shit about trivial crap.
- David Worrell
Michael: a man who attends to the details -- I like that. :) Let me rephrase: the Maccabean meme -- the archetype of the ethnic nationalist holy warrior -- is a product of the Old Testament mindset or culture. (And there are many fine things in the OT -- I am not using the term in an exclusively pejorative way.) In any case, Lieberman praising McCain as a Maccabee doesn't inspire confidence in me about McCain; nor is it a tribute to McCain's sense of humor (or even sanity).
- Sean McBride
Note: Joseph Lieberman is also a big fan of Christian Armageddonist John Hagee, a fanatic who wants to set the world on fire, starting in the Middle East. Apparently Lieberman sees signficant similarities between Hagee and McCain.
- Sean McBride
Sean: wow, that explains a lot! yikes
- Susan Beebe
John McCain is definitely aware of the Internet.
- Alexander Carlill
November is going to be catastrophic for the GOP, I think.
- Alexander Carlill
Susan: Lieberman, Hagee, neoconservatives and Christian Zionists/Armageddonists are counting on John McCain to expand the Iraq War to Iran and the rest of the Middle East -- that is why they are promoting him. Notice how many belligerent and threatening statements McCain has made on the subject. He's a fanatic, not a comedian. This entire political bloc also hates political dissent and...
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- Sean McBride
"I hate the bloggers." So, he hates the ability of people to express themselves without censorship? Seriously, even in jest, this is disconcerting. And remember the adage - never truer words spoken in jest.
- AJ Kohn
AJ: One of John McCain's chief promoters, Joseph Lieberman, is also a sponsor of the Homegrown Terrorism Act, a piece of nasty legislation that is moving in the direction of censoring the Internet along neoconservative standards of political correctness. Make no mistake: these people really, really hate the Internet and diversity of opinion. "They hate our freedoms." :)
- Sean McBride
Ignore Lieberman. A few Senate victories and the Dems will kick him to the curb, he'll lose his seniority and the GOP won't take him either. He's a religious zealot and a total opportunist. Picking him as VP was possibly Al Gore's worst decision since he stole all of Vint Cerf's ideas and invented the Internet based on his unfinished plans...
- Andrew Feinberg
Seriously folks - he was kidding. I'm not going to defend the man as a technology pioneer but I think we can all agree that "bloggers" in the most general sense are not beloved far and wide - I don't know where Yglesias gets off calling the laughter 'tepid' either. There are PLENTY of substantive issues to disagree over - I'm ignoring ridiculous "Obama doesn't wear a flag pin" memes - no need for anyone to grab their e-muskets over this one either...
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I'd say the Democrats have pretty much kicked Lieberman to the curb already.
- Ken Sheppardson
He's still Chairman of the Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, and the leadership has to kiss his ass lest he go Jim Jeffords on them. With 12 Republican Senate seats open, give the Dems a few victories and Joe gets the boot.
- Andrew Feinberg
he also hates puppies, lollipops pigtails and sunlight - I mean ANY sunlight - if elected President he has a secret plan to detonate nuclear devices on the sun so that he may plunge the world into eternal darkness mwahahahahahaha Oh and he met my grandmother once (sweet, sweet lady) and he slapped her because she didn't get up when he entered the room (she was wheelchair bound at the time).
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
LOL at Marco. Need to be able to "Like" comments as well.
- Robert Stribley
@ Shey, i think he's serious, but he just let it come across as being a joke
- Gordon Swaby
@Gordon he's not despite whatever other problems people may have with him he genuinely enjoys a free and open exchange of ideas (simmer down - no flaming that comment folks) for well over a year now (and long before ANY other candidate followed suit I believe) he has hosted regular conference calls directly with bloggers where every two weeks or so he jumps on a conf call and takes their questions. It is undeniable that he provides journalists far more direct access than Obama
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
He was clearly joking during that clip. Senator McCain gives unprecedented access to bloggers and to all media types unlike Senator Obama. http://tinyurl.com/677vds The main benefit of web 2.0 is that it gives us a better view of how people think and what they are really like, but in this election Senator McCain is the only one with an open access policy. Senator Obama is restricting...
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- Michael Beach
Jason: I read your interesting blog entry. Let me clarify a bit: "creative capitalism" -- new successful and profitable businesses based on original intellectual property and fresh ideas, not necessarily restricted to the Internet or information technology. "Crony capitalism" -- businesses based on financial manipulation, no-bid contracts, oligopolies, monopolies and the like. See, for...
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- Sean McBride
John McCain's script is being written by the same neoconservatives at the AEI, JINSA, WINEP and other neocon think tanks who have come close to destroying the Republican Party and the conservative movement. They are urging McCain to expand the Iraq War to Iran, thus McCain's "joke" -- "Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran" -- a little ditty that was also sung by neocon James Woolsey from the AEI. Is there anything funny about the prospect of $10 or $20 a gallon gas? Chaos in the Mideast? Try nightmare.
- Sean McBride
Throughout the nineties I got the strong impression that old school crony and vulture capitalists were utterly baffled and enraged by the smart ass kids from MIT, Stanford and other hotbeds of radical imagineering who created the Internet revolution. They saw the entire cultural shift as mystifying, subversive and threatening. McCain is definitely old school in this kulturkampf. Ancient.
- Sean McBride
I don't agree with you Dave. The people here are earlier adopters and are people who want to have great conversations, rather than just push messages at people.
- Robert Scoble
I think Dave and Robert are both right! On FF we get more into discussions, even if sometimes hairballs are flying all other the place! lol But still there are many Social Media and SEO professionals who have not come to FF yet and hanging out on Twitter.
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I think comparing friend feed to twitter is like comparing a desktop to a laptop. Sure both are computers and can do a lot of the same things, but they were designed with different purposes. I think FF and twitter are the opposite of what Scoble says.
- Patrick Tulskie
Dave: you need to visit the "Everyone" tab. There's a TON of non geeks here. I just don't "Like" their posts, so you don't see them. There's also a very active non-geek community that writes only in Farsi but I don't translate them either. Speaking of which, wasn't this a slam against our blogs at one point? I seem to remember people used to say this kind of stuff about those back in 2001.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah you should read all of what I said, not just this one bit. I agree with Patrick, totally. I said the best system would be a combination of both.
- Dave Winer
Personally, I think that FF is better as a true "micro blog" because of the nature of leaving comments, where as twitter is more of a STATUS update blast to your friends.
- Ron Acierno
You guys missed the whole irony of a Twitter message showing up in FriendFeed where we're now discussing it. Dave: you should have posted some URLs so you could connect all your discussions together here. I'll do that in the next post.
- Robert Scoble
The key difference is twitter is a very low friction system. I can post things without fear. They go out to just those who have agreed to follow me. Here I inject myself into a conversation. By nature I am therefore more cautious and thoughtful about what I write. There is more friction and in a small way that creates a more thoughtful discussion.
- Joel Ordesky
Another thing is that I haven't learned how to use FF yet. Not that I haven't put in the time. There are just vast areas I have yet to explore, like the Everyone tab (per Scoble's recommendation). I wasn't slamming anyone Robert -- I'm actually just trying to figure it out, and I'm confused along with most other people, imho.
- Dave Winer
Not only wrong, but somewhat of a "jerky" statement. What's next, Twitter users are also "more pretty and popular?" Seriously, I don't get it. Edit: After seeing what you wrote above, don't you think that you could have said: "I'm not seeing as diverse items on FriendFeed as I am on Twitter, what am I doing wrong?" Instead of sounding like a troll to those of us on FriendFeed?
- Vince DeGeorge
Joel: funny thing is I see a lot of people's Tweets here. I don't get what you are saying at all. But let me try this another way: I've noticed that the half-life of a conversation on Twitter is about four minutes. On FriendFeed? One conversation can go on for hours. Far different. Maybe it's this that you're noticing.
- Robert Scoble
I think Dave is probably right regarding the diversity. Although if one's idea of a "diverse" conversation is one in which both identi.ca and Plurk are mentioned, FriendFeed is OK. I wonder which service has more discussions of Miley Cyrus, American Idol, and the Federal Reserve Board. Will check...
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
The conversation is here ... 'nuff said?
- David Weiner
Personally, I enjoy FriendFeed more. The conversations are much better, no 140 character limit, and you are not limited to only twitter, as you can access other services
- Grant
Twitter is bright...so is the headlight of a train...
- J.T Dabbagian
People on FriendFeed are more interested in the conversation so that makes them more interesting. It's like when you are dating- the more they like you the more you like them.
- Sarah Austin
Yes Robert that is the essence of what I meant. Things here are less ephemeral. Even the tweets become more solid and lasting here.
- Joel Ordesky
Twitter is fine for throwaway lines, but I find I get more sense of the conversation with Friendfeed.
- Craig Thomler
FF is more like a mail list and they're famous for flaming out. This one is right on the edge of flaming out right now. In all the time I've used Twitter, it's never flamed out once (AFAIK).
- Dave Winer
Dave - isn't it about conversation? Or is the paradox of Twitter/identi.ca talking but not listening?
- David Weiner
Dave: Twitter flames out all the time. It's just that those conversations move out of sight within two minutes. Here they keep moving back into view until you hit "hide." Also, if someone is flaming you out, you just need to learn to "block" and "hide." Also, you are in control of any comment left under your name (as is the case here). If you don't like a comment you can delete it. So, if it's flaming out it's YOUR FAULT. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Dave - Barack Obama HAS to consider Senator Evan Bayh as his VP. Bayh is a Democrat who has successfully won as governor and senator in the very red state of Indiana. He knows how to talk to the middle ground. Obama already has the left sewn up, he's going to need to win the middle. True, Illinois + Indiana do not provide geographic diversity, but that didn't stop Clinton-Gore in 1992.
- Hutch Carpenter
Dave W. - honestly I think that Twitter is just a status update site ... It has nothing to do with conversation or it would have it organized and you would be able to leave comments on posts like on Twitter/Jaiku... ect.
- Ron Acierno
I agree with Scoble re. this is a better place for real conversations. It's asinine - and increasingly more so - to refer to this "geek" hierarchy "I don't like non geeks". what does that mean? we're all people here. twitter, ff..your slicing hairs: they are are early adopters...
- j sven
I really don't think that Twitter ever thought of their site as a real micro blog that would be a tool for conversation, I just think that the users started using it that way. How can anyone even follow a conversation on twitter, there is not structure like there is here.
- Ron Acierno
Twitter is not about the conversation. It's about the information. FF is about the conversation.
- Nick in Manila
Twitter is a signal you do not like it, do not listen to it! Robert is a Dictator, he does not like the signal he blocks the user!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
The twitter audience is more diverse and less tech savvy. more of a wide slice of life.
- Rodney Rumford
Friend Feed is a discussion, you do not like the discussion do not participate! Robert is a Dictator he does not like the author he bans him to Siberia Gulag!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Nick: you're right and wrong. It's also for discussing Dave Winer's tweets.
- Robert Scoble
they may be more diverse, but if I look at it from a value equation, I get far more from FF than Twitter in terms of interesting. Although to be fair, Twitter still wins as a pure networking tool
- Duncan Riley
It's only a matter of time before the audience on FF grows and diversifies.
- Nick Dominguez
Where "brighter" = lacking the ability to really interact or challenge assumptions? No doubt this will not be seen since I made the mistake of disagreing in the past and am probably now blocked. I still like Twitter (conceptually) but got tired of being talked at - love the conversations here, even if the disagreements that sometimes occur make everyone seem a little less "bright/shiny or happy"
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
are you going to disclose the amount? :)
- Timo Heuer
Vezquex my blog is listed twice? One may be a twitter stream. To my knowledge it's only listed once.
- Jeremiah Owyang
Timo I really don't think that person was serious. I asked for enough for me to not work for a few years
- Jeremiah Owyang
Your blog does seem to be listed twice in your profile (FF that is)
- Brian Sullivan
It was listed twice, I'm not sure how that happened, I removed the dupe. Thanks for letting me know.
- Jeremiah Owyang
take the money and run, their foolish mistake if they don't include you in the deal
- clarke thomas
I'm pretty sure you could sell the blog, and then start an online show/podcast and be living pretty damn well.
- Ben Parr
Blogs are personal, so what are you selling ?? your past content or throwing your readers under the bus ??
- Peter Dawson
Peter, I think he just wants my domain. Quite frankly, the terms were not clear. I'd just start another blog, readers would come. (this is already my second URL)
- Jeremiah Owyang
that's weird. ask me if he'll buy interactiveartists.com
- Ryan
Jeremy, only the domian - must be some SEO /SEM strategy :)- sale sale . as high as they will go. but make sure that you get 30day handover period to notify your userland :)- yeah take their money and run .. LOL
- Peter Dawson
Weird, you are the blog - if they take it over, what are they going to do with it?
- Marshall Sponder
From the article: "In one experiment, one group of students was given a strong assurance that none of the information they divulged on the survey would be revealed. That should make them more forthcoming, right? Actually, the opposite was true. When the issue of confidentiality was raised, participants clammed up. For example, 25 percent of the students who were given a strong assurance...
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- Ginger Makela Riker
I've done it for a minute or two on a cell call
- Jeff Quinton
nothing worse than getting on a rant roll only to pause and realize you have been making all of those great points to yourself. whenever I reconnect with the person my summary always ends up being something like: "oh, yea - I was just saying that it sucks and they should be more careful"
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I use Weight Watchers Online and then shoot for three points below what they recommend. My weight tends to swing over the years. I hope to get it to stay here now. I don't exercise so I overcompensate by not eating!
- Steve Rubel
Steve how did you lose 15 pounds??? You were thin to begin with!
- Michael Wiley
I lost it via WW online. I want to lose a chin or two!
- Steve Rubel
I am jealous. Need to do much the same
- Deepak Singh
twenty pounds in two months by cutting the size of meals and having a veggie/fruit shake for lunch. Benefits: cloth fit, cholesterol down to lowest level in three years.
- Joe Buhler
Congrats Steve...I lost several pounds just by eliminating evening snacks--bare minimum after 7:30..
- mark ivey
Congrats Steve. I've lost 13 pounds since early May by refraining from overeating. Wanted to lose weight to help with the Walt Disney World Marathon I'll run in January.
- Mike Reynolds
Congrats! I'm down 6 lbs in 3 weeks--no more alcohol, or chips (Hi My name's Matt, I'm a chip-a-holic. "Hi Matt" <applause>) plus I'm working with a trainer. Ugh!
- MattKelly
Awesome! I lost about 8 pounds of my "New CEO 15"
- Mitchell Tsai
While the enterprise has to maintain some control, IT shops need to stop creating 5-year plans every 3-years and start looking at the fluid changes occurring in the real world. (said the proud Digital Nomad). Nice post!
- Kevin C. Tofel
Corporate workers on the road use a secure VPN back to the office. Google Doc's are fine for small businesses, but corporations need to adhere to the guidelines put forth in Sarbanes-Oxley.
- paul mooney
Great... What will Viacom do? Pull those guys' eyeballs from their sockets? I think we should sue the company that will be hired to do the data-mining, for working with privacy-threatening douches.
- Rodrigo Jaroszewski
Maybe Viacom plans to emulate Jay and Silent Bob and will visit each offending user to point out the error of their piracy ways?
- KerryG
Why is Google even keeping that sort of data longer than say 90 days?
- John Frost
It's a worry how far behind the legal profession is.
- Craig Thomler
This whole YouTube Viacom debacle is going to be very interesting to watch as Google produces documents to lawyers. And people thought the internet was "private" ha!
- Susan Beebe
Upon further reflection, I agree with Danny S. We need an Internet Privacy law now - http://is.gd/L7f
- John Frost
I wonder what Viacom will do with international IP addresses? e.g. EU one's? what about Iranian or North Korean one's? how about to go to court for suing Americans and not suing others, meaning that current management isn't effective enough executing company strategy?
- A.T.
@Susan Beebe - The intenet has never been private. Every piece of content we produce, every comment we write ends up in googles cache and search index. So there is a huge amount of information avaliable about our online precence that goes back years.
- Roberto Bonini
Have you thought about using http://www.dopplr.com/ ? Your friends can keep track of where you are and you can see who of your friends is near your location.
- sdfx
@Chris. Thanks. My Dopplr page is http://dopplr.com/travell.... I've been trying various things. I had my own travel website giving events/location http://spiritualbusinesscompanions.com/travel. I'm still updating my Facebook location, and I've been thinking about Yahoo/Google Calendar to put my events on-line. But it's so easy to update a FriendFeed link on any computer...
- Mitchell Tsai
Great first step! But am skeptical. It's all very vague. Scraping a swf for actual useful and readable content is the equivalent of trying to make sense of what is content in an .exe file. On top of that, they don't intend to index external xml files (which IS the content) nor index swfs embedded via javascript, the current standard. I just hope that the Flash sites that are built properly (a minority) with best practices and dynamic content aren't disadvantaged...
- Mike Chang
I haven't had time to look into the details yet, but I know you'll have to do certain things to help it along when building the Flash. Presumably most existing Flash content won't see much of a benefit. Hopefully it will be good for future Flash work.
- jjprojects
I want to be able to find more people on FF in my geographic region. Why not let us voluntarily put our country, state, zip code info in a profile page on FF and then let us "discover" others in our immediate area?
I like the idea - I've met many interesting people on Twitter that way. For the record, I'm in the Twin Cities in Minnesota. Will have to figure out where else to put that.
- Andy Tinkham
from twhirl
How about Room Search so you can FIND your local room?
- Andru Edwards
I could see that as a part of a FF iPhone app
- gfurry
Andy, I think where social media works best is when it becomes more than just online. Less about the conversations on here per se and more about relationship building. It can definitely work in an online only environment, but I think it adds an element when people take things beyond the network. I'm better friends with Robert Scoble online because I've met him in person and become friends offline. Geo contact recommendations can help build these offline connections.
- Thomas Hawk
These offline connections then become powerful reinforcements for online activity. Local Flickr user groups are a good example. But Flickr has never capitalized on this kind of search or recommendation technology. FF is innovating very quickly as opposed to flickr and could do this better.
- Thomas Hawk
This can work informally through rooms. Here's a "Bay Area" room. http://friendfeed.com/rooms.... But it would be more powerful if it were managed and organized more formally by the FF system itself. Not to mention when the first "we met on FF" marriage takes place, it will be just about in time for the New York Times article on FF as the web's hottest new social network as an anecdotal story.
- Thomas Hawk
I bet you they won't do it for a while because of these 3 things: 1) Pedofiles, 2) Geo-Spam, 3) Becoming a Dating Site.
- Johnny Worthington
Hey Thomas, I can't make the Photowalk in Seattle in July but if you make your way 3 hours north to Whistler BC we can hang out, shoot stuff :)
- Andrew Smith
Good idea... I'd like to interact with others in Austin. Glemak: One of the things I like about FFeed is the integration... I'd like to get off of a few of the 15+ services I have now. 8-) (this is coming from the guy that blasted his BKite location to Twitter-verse about 20 times yesterday. )
- Charlie Nichols Browning
Rooms are too informal of an answer. Flickr has rooms too. I belong to the SFlickr group for instance. No, what's needed is better recommendation technology by FF. Already the "recommended" contacts section of FF is super weak.
- Thomas Hawk
Hey Colby, Twellow recently came out with a nice way to search Twitter by location. Here's a search for people who have listed San Francisco as their location: http://www.twellow.com/search...
- Mike Doeff
http://friendfeed.com/setting.... This page is essentially worthless. Rather than focusing simply on higher profile FF members, FF should rank the recommendation page on who has the most mutual friends with you. This would be far more accurate. Then overlay that with a filter by country, state, city or zip. Then page it and you'd have one hell of a contact recommendation system.
- Thomas Hawk
Andrew, would love to get up to Whistler to shoot. Want to do a photowalk in Vancouver as well. Won't have time though on this next trip. If anyone is around Seattle next week by the way we are doing a photowalk. Details here: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event...
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas, there's a greasemonkey script called Better Recommended that takes into account your friends' connections.
- Jeff Quinton
Why not hold an event, advertise and see who shows up? Or use brightkite
- Craig Thomler
Jeff, I couldn't get that script to work. It freaked my browser out.
- Thomas Hawk
Craig, connections will be made informally for sure. Rooms, meetups, blogger dinners, brightkite, etc. It is human nature for some of this to happen around any communications medium. No, what I'm talking about is leveraging this natural tendency through official FF recommendation technology. It is far more powerful that way and the offline FF interaction solidifies the online experience.
- Thomas Hawk
I have it!!! FF should strike up a deal with MOO Cards with a special FF design. It lists your Name and FF address. Then, with the assistance of local cafes/bars/coffee shops, they could have a small stand where you can leave some for other FF to pick up.
- Johnny Worthington
I'm sold: does anyone have a brightkite invite for me?
- Marcos Marado
i currently have 5 brightkite invites - send me an email glemak (at) gmail (dot) com and i send one to you
- mike "glemak" dunn
Great Idea! I like the room idea mentioned above also.
- Jeff P. Henderson
"Words were not simply what they connoted: they were art objects and art supplies in themselves." -- I'll be thinking about that quote for a while. Thank you so much. BTW, I nearly bought that book in the second link this morning, settling on Phil Baines "Type and Typography," instead. I'll put "Stop Stealing Sheep ..." on my wish list. ;-)
- Chris Baskind