Down with crab cakes! Ban Whole Foods! / On the ludicrous outcry against a brilliant, oddball CEO and his unfortunate opinion - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin...
Perhaps post your favourite theme and whether you like or dislike the themes in the new *official* FF-Themes group here: http://ff.im/4DluG :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Peter, there should be an image inthe lower right corner. What browser/OS are you using? Thanks!
- Kevin Fox
@Kevin Fox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070725 Firefox/2.0.0.6
- Peter
I'm with Gabe: after considering BlueWave, I went with Helvetica, everything else is just girly. I might just stick with my 'stylish' hacks.
- Joel Bennett
Yea, flowers and stuff are annoying. Helvetica version should be improved for better spacing.
- Burcu Dogan
Thanks, Kol, that's what I was going to ask - if themes conflict with scripts. Sounds like it's cool - heading off to choose one now. I have one stylish userrstyle script and two greasemonkey scripts applied to friendfeed. We'll see if they can all play nice.
- Laura Norvig
works great - I'm trying helvetica now. It's super clean because I have avatars removed. Me likey.
- Laura Norvig
cool... when is that nasty orange "ParisLemon" theme comin? :P
- Susan Beebe
This'll make it prettier when I'm using Chrome anyway. :) I think I'll stick with the Stylish scripts and hacks on Firefox, though - I like the typography modifications they provide. When user-generated themes come in, will they be able to modify the typography/spacing, or just the background and colors? Thanks for the options, guys!
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
It's good that ugliness is no more reason #1 to stop connecting. Next I would like to have is d&d to sort out friends in categories
- Michele Costabile
I like the Helvetica, who created it?
- Juvenn Woo
Sorry, but were there no "real" designers to push out some mindblowing themes? It´s just a change of color and background?
- Hans Kainz
Like those themes. Would be nice though, if they also show up if someone visits my page. Or does it?
- Sven
When I click your name, Sven, I get the bamboo theme, which is what I chose. If you have chosen a different theme from that, we know it just remembers yours. It seems to work differently from twitter.
- Rick Cogley
Helvetica all the way! I feel like the nytimes.com
- Liviu Barbat
@Rick: Thanks. I get the idea. The twitter concept would be nice though. Like personalized version of the FF page. Now, if there were archive links now.....
- Sven
"You don't have to tell her she's overweight. She knows. You don't gain 30 pounds without being unaware. Plus, she likely is already feeling unattractive about it because she is able to tell that you are not attracted to her, even if you have not spoken those words. Your real question is "How do I get my wife to lose weight, because right now the cellulite is turning me off and I don't want to have sex with her. Oh, and also, I don't want to be a dick." More condensed, you're asking "How do I tell my wife that she is unattractive without being a dick?" You can't. Put yourself in her shoes. What would you do if she said "Honey, I don't want to have sex with you any more because you've got cellulite on your arms. So change that." No, really. Sit and think about that. Your wife is a person, not a computer. All these suggestions of trying to fool her into exercise or saying stupid shit like "Gosh, we're so fat" are absurd. "Take over the cooking" is also stupid. Do you even know WHY she is..."
- Andy Lester
I agree! Aside from a much more responsive community, the threaded comments drastically improve the relevance of people's posts.
- mark
I keep meaning to spend more time here but I don't know anyone using it. Maybe you'll be the one to make it more interesting for me :)
- DawnOwar
The new design gives it a Twitter-like wrapper, but there's a lot more going on inside. Use the "Friend Search" feature to make sure you're subscribed to everyone you know (i.e. on Twitter or on Facebook): http://bit.ly/ffonff
- Ryan
Yay! I just noticed this before I see this entry. Makes me happy.
- Admiral Anika
Uh, that's not going to be the standard bookmarklet from now? Please say no.
- Admiral Anika
Very cool... and thanks for including the "Share" URLs, particularly the short URL. Is the little "x" in the upper right to dismiss the window missing intentionally?
- Ken Sheppardson
I like the UI change. One minor suggestion: add a close box [X] to the dialog; I found out that you could close it by clicking outside, but I think it would be easier with an explicit action (or even "close this window")
- Mistletoe Glen
Nice! I just would like ESC as a shortcut to leave it please (this is my reflex when trying to escape this kind of pop up)
- Stanislas Jourdan
Stanislas, that pop up sucks balls on my netbook screen since I can only see up to 'Post' but clicking off of it helped. Odd there's no 'cancel' button.
- Admiral Anika
can the admins add the friendfeed-beta to the "to" list ?
- Kishore Balakrishnan
Thanks - great response to the feedback!! I'm very happy to see hide back.
- Robin Barooah
A close button has been added - sorry for the oversight.
- Bret Taylor
Why are those images showing up on every FF post?
- Andrew Leahey
Andrew, this happened to me (added image) and I deleted the post and recreated it.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Happened to me as well. Very strange.
- Andrew Leahey
you could've clicked on the gray area to close it too.
- Alfredo
I think the fact that it hasn't be noticed instantly shows how few people actually post text directly through FF.
- Andrew Leahey
Andrew: this is a spurious error, and we are pushing a fix now.
- Bret Taylor
Bret: What do you mean by spurious error? Was it a user error on my part? Not trying to bust you, just not sure what you mean.
- Andrew Leahey
Meaning it was not happening with all posts - it was an issue with one of our backends and caching. Let me know if you see the problem again.
- Bret Taylor
Gotcha, will do. Thanks for the quick fix.
- Andrew Leahey
I really like the embed feature, I can put a post in a blog post and the comments appear in real time, in the blog post as updates! That's something I haven't seen anywhere. http://breakingnewsviafriendfe...
- Wallace
This is cool, but I think the Quick Links to the services are superflous.... and the dialog barely fits my firefox viewport (on a laptop).
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
That is really great and useful. I liked Short URLs.
- Alp
I'm getting some bad results with short urls not pointing to the long URL it's supposed to, ending up in non-beta friendfeed and some other weirdness.
- Boris Gordon
I suppose short URL <http://ff.im/2lx3d> will eventually point to the beta site, but how about it should do that RIGHT NOW? ;-))
- ianf ⌘
Bret, this is far better, thank you. I love that we can see the short URL (this could really to with being on the share box and the bookmarklet as well as the embed code. The quick links are very useful too. But it's still just a link to the post not actually opening the post up to new feeds (i.e. with sync'ed comments and likes). Would this be possible please?
- Kol Tregaskes
What I'd like to see is the possibility to share the comments when you reshare it to another feed.
- Brome
In fact you could combine this new share dialog box with edit post options and we could edit/add/remove the images, the link(s), the title and the feeds the post (the ability to remove from existing feeds and add to new feeds).
- Kol Tregaskes
Brome, yep basically open the post to new feeds (or edit existing ones).
- Kol Tregaskes
Really impressed and agree with Kol that this should be the standard dialog across all Shares
- Joe Dawson
is embed realtime? If so it could replace the comment section on blogs easily.
- Rahul Das
Rahul, I'm typing this comment in here: http://breakingnewsviafriendfe... to prove that yes the embed code is real-time. Now that is *excellent*!!! Shame it's in a window though.
- Kol Tregaskes
this is awesome. Now someone needs to come up with some ready to paste code for blogs and we would have an awesome commenting platform.
- Rahul Das
Good point Kol. There is a problem when there are so many comments, tho.
- Roberto Bonini
Roberto, yep but not sure this is possible. It would be nice though. :-) The new way to blog? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Maybe. But I was thinking of doing that watchlist of mine using the embeds. What do you think?
- Roberto Bonini
And did you know this embed updates instantly????
- Roberto Bonini
Loving the new Share, thanks Bret. Would be cool if the Bookmarklet will have these options too.
- Majento
very nice ... It would be even better if the frame was not visible.
- Kevin Nordmand
Roberto, yep it's real-time. Yeah that watchlist would work, just create a private post on your site and add the embed code. A little fiddly though.
- Kol Tregaskes
Bret, thanks. What about sharing via Gmail or email in general?
- Damond Nollan
Now I want the 'edit' form upgraded with the same 'To:' field, so I can add crossposts after-the-fact.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Everyone noticed the retweet icons down the bottom, didn't they?
- Johnny Worthington
I have a bit of a problem, at my resolution of 1366x768, if there's a photo in the re-share I can't see the "quick links" section at the bottom, and there's no way of scrolling this screen.
- Louis Simoneau
Great stuff but now I need this same functionality in the bookmarklet!
- AJ Kohn
Wud be great & really easy if Mail Invitations link had option for importing & selecting email contacts...rather than typing/copy-paste. Any plans for this?
- Roshan Ramachandran
Cool - even cooler if the bookmarklet could do the same!
- Kevin Nordmand
I like it! Would be nice to update the bookmarklet too. And please keep the original comments added to a post.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Edit the bookmarklet to add "beta" to the address :)
- Roberto Bonini
how should we choose the groups to share the item in?
- Mahsa Z
Masha, click the Share link, when the box pops up, click the X to remove "My Feed" if that is not where you want to put the item. Enter the first letter of the group you want to send the item to and you'll see all the groups that you belong to that begin with that letter. Find the group you want and click on it.
- Sharon McPherson
would be nice if you could just dropdown a list of groups, rather than having to type the first letter
- Tommy Keene
You mean "FF should read our minds, one letter is one letter too many?"
- ianf ⌘
The new share function is pretty awesome.
- Andrew Trinh
Sharon, tnx. so we should memorize all groups' names! :-/
- Mahsa Z
Thanks. This is a great feature and makes sharing even easier :)
- Nicholas James
I really like the new Share feature. I wish the "Like" feature had more control on how Likes get sent to Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
I love this! Just discovered it today.
- Brian Bufalo
this is frustrating. More specifically...the retweeting is frustrating. We need to be able to retweet without a (via http://ff.im/2lx3d) at the end and the urls need to be shortened if we're resharing a link from friendfeed. This is driving me bonkers.
- Zee.
and a RT is nothing without mentioning the name of the person we shared from
- Zee.
Zee: thanks for the feedback. To clarify, is the fact we prepopulate the textbox with (via ...) what is bothering you? You can delete that text. Or am I misunderstanding? Good point about making the username of the person who shared it more prominent.
- Bret Taylor
I was just clicking on the Share feature, thought it was new.. And it is! +1 to email, that's what I was looking for, sharing the FF entry via email for non-FF users! Promote awareness! :)
- Chris Chua
I don't get any email options @beta.ff – Safari 3.2.1 on OSX 10.5.6. While I'm at it however, please consider making this Share dialog a little more compact. I read FF at 24p font size (tired eyes), and this dialog doesn't fit on my 13.3" (800px vertical) laptop's screen.
- ianf ⌘
This just makes friendfeed even more powerful. Love it.
- Angus Neil
We have separated Groups (the new name for "Rooms") into its own section, and we have renamed "filters" to "Saved searches" to make things simpler/clearer. Saved searches have simper URLs that can be shared, and friend list operations have all been added/cleaned up.
- Bret Taylor
Our primary goal was making Groups more useful again. The friend search / group search functionality is now separate and much easier to use.
- Bret Taylor
Thank you I love the new navigation.
- Russ Jackson
We have also added Atom feeds, Block, and a number of other small missing components.
- Bret Taylor
Organization is a good thing. Thanks and keep it coming. The subtle stuff will come. Color customization, etc. I think the main think is make it look dead easy, with the advanced user stuff just a little symbol or click away...
- kilbuda
i like being able to statically set the groups it shows me on the side now.
- rob friedman
Very cool. Much simpler. Any chance of being able to rearrange the blocks a la iGoogle in the future? Saved Searches were mighty convenient up at the top.
- Mark Trapp
Yes, rearranging and theming are both things we would like to do.
- Bret Taylor
@Rob, you still can set the groups that show up by clicking on "prefs" in the orange bar.
- Ana
Where did the create feed/imaginary friend substitute function go?
- Brian Sullivan
@Ana, I just said I liked it. :) I didn't see the ability to change what was shown there prior to this change. It just seemed like a random sampling of the groups I'm on before.
- rob friedman
Excellent. Very glad to see the "Browse/edit friends" link. I look forward to being able to rearrange to put my saved searches at the top.
- Elizabeth
Nice, but I use filters (well, now saved searches) more than I do my friend lists. Personally I prefer it the way it was, although I'd be happy just to have filters bumped up some (I got a _lot_ of lists to scroll past).
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
@Brian, I dont think the imaginary friend stuff is in the beta interface yet, I had to use the old UI to add a few yesterday.
- rob friedman
I like the new separation much more than old layout. Being able to rearrange placement of these blocks would be nice but not essential.
- Boris Gordon
Better, but you really gotta do something about that color scheme.
- mike fabio
Great work! Would be really nice to get the last modified time back next to the title of the groups. That saved me a lot of unnecessary clicks in the non-beta version.
- Christoph Studer
rob friendman -- I am talking about the create a feed function that allowed you to create the equivalent of imaginary friends.
- Brian Sullivan
I still think that the "My discussions" link under Friends should really be "My likes and comments", since there are some posts in that feed that are just ones I "liked" and have 0 comments, from me or anyone else. Would you call a post with no comments a "discussion"?
- Nathan Chase
Nathan: you are right, those should probably not be in that feed.
- Bret Taylor
We are still working out imaginary friends functionality. It is on our radar.
- Bret Taylor
Still wish there was a way to hide the top and side bars for use in a widget style browser window. Till then there's always greasemonkey http://is.gd/rBrh
- KyleHase
from twhirl
Thanks, Bret. You guys -- FF team and product -- are awesome!
- Eric Johnson
Thank you Thank you Thank you! Loving the beta and the FFteam's responsiveness
- Keith - @tsudo
Why is this showing up in my timeline? It says because one of the people I'm subscribed to Liked it. I'm not a member of the room and I'm not subscribed to the original poster (Sorry Bret!) But I swear I've turned off FoaF every day and this keeps happening.
- Paul Reynolds
Its enuf,men,give me more updated info plz.
- kelvin
from IM
We have more consistent terminology now; good. Now can we have more sophisticated feed-composition tools? How about one-touch "create group from saved search"? And how about fixing the "private group - standard FEED - public group" inconsistency?
- Karl Knechtel
I don't think we need full skinning capabilities - just a colour chooser for each coloured element. Also, the prefs link for Groups is a bit ugly. I don't like magically appearing links.
- Karl Knechtel
@patrick: every element of the beta UI should have a beta URL already. Any links that you click in posts are whatever URL is actually specified in the post.
- Karl Knechtel
Bret, this is great news. I'll leave the cosmetics to better people. I like things as is :)
- Deepak Singh
@Paul Reynolds: FoaF can be turned off?
- Karl Knechtel
We just pushed a fix for IE 7/8. If you were using IE, you should refresh. Sorry for the problems.
- Bret Taylor
I love it - especially the filters at the bottom (I use Lists, more often). That said, I like Kishore's suggestion -> let us choose the ordering of the boxes.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Very good improvement, but would like to have another box of favorite friends. I wouldn't mind if I could set this up like the groups box, or if it would just remember who I clicked on the most.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Simpler... When is the mobile version coming out?
- Brian Kenyon
I would really appreciate if we could drag and drop items and boxes. I want to order all this.
- Stanislas Jourdan
While the new sidebar order is good, I'm having fun getting rid of two saved searches which only bring up an "edit new filter/search page. It'd be nice to have some way to edit/delete searches, like with the groups and friends boxes. Still waiting for someone to give me a tip on how to remove those two links from the list otherwise.
- George Hall (Australia)
George: Click the "Saved Searches" title, then select the feed from the left-hand side, then click Delete.
- Karl Knechtel
like it! only thing i don't like is that i have to scroll down everytime i wanna see my saves searches now...
- Peter Efland
Peter, yep to me that's in completely the wrong place. It's the second most important new feature on FF (behind real-time) and it's now "hidden" at the bottom. I have a large list of Groups and means big scroll down to the Saved Searches, which I use a LOT. Please either return them back to the second tab down or give us the option to select what sidebars we have and what order they appear on the bar?
- Kol Tregaskes
Bret, this is great, especially being able to see all of my groups. But I agree with just about everyone else, I'd prefer to have my saved searches above groups. There is still enough room to add subscriptions as well . . . maybe??
- Chris Loft
Nice change. Please sort out the color palette next :-)
- Alex Gawley
I like it, although the name filter was better, I think. Besides putting the Searches under Friends, it would be good if the Groups would change order in relation to recent activity, like it used to be.
- Alejandro
I like the way things are separated, now. However, I too have a lot of lists to scroll past to get to groups and saved searches. It would be nice to move the saved searches and groups above the lists. Definitely loving the beta, though!
- Seth Greenblatt
A number of feeds I set up are showing as Groups. Is that right? I set up a number of Twitter feeds (e.g. "Twitter - Al Yankovic") for nonFF Tweeters. It's a little confusing since now they're listed as a Group when their settings are "Standard Feed".
- CAJ, somewhere else
I guess feeds that aren't individuals are groups :-)
- Neil Saunders
separate groups section is good. now about labelling content sources rather than people... (would be nice to have this at least as an option: show user avatar OR show content source - then those of us who read by content are happy, and those who read by user are happy)
- Richard Akerman
Alejandro, I first thought I'd miss "filter" but actually prefer "saved searches" now. Well because they are, aren't they? Makes things easier to understand. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I use filters a lot and now on the HP Mini I have to scroll down the window to get to the next filter I want to check which then scrolls the page back up to the top after picking it. I have nine filters that I check probably once an hour. The page scrolling is tedious to go through. Is there a way you could move Filters up above Groups either manually or automatically based on most common use?
- Loren Heiny
Thank you! Navigating to groups/rooms was a pain.
- amygeek
Nice Job, I like it. It feels simpler and will be welcoming to new users.
- Poor Gamer
I also don't care for the name change at the top of the "Search results." The name of the search was better at least for how I use it. I can see the actual search criteria in the seach box. I don't need it in both places. Plus, when I'm clicking through a list of saved searches one at a time I often forget where I am in the list. The title helped me keep track.
- Loren Heiny
"Atom feeds" are not a "small missing components"!!! :) .. as on abay +++++AAAA+++AAAA for beta.FriendFeed
- CantorJF
Just noticed the new groups sidebar. Thank you!
- Carmen
Seems like the green box should be titled "Friend Lists" (in an actual Friends list, I'd expect to see Joe, Mary, Bob, etc. -- right now, there's a pretty big disconnect btw typical user expectations and what's appearing in that box). And maybe the browse/edit should then be titled "Browse/edit friend lists".
- Christopher Galtenberg
Even more unexpected is that when I click on Friends, I also see Groups. There should probably be another split, so we have Lists, Friends, and Groups. Bret, you guys are going to run out of colors soon! :)
- Daniel Sims
And would you *please* give us custom backgrounds and colors?
- Gaby K. Slezák
Karl: tried it, but it only brings up a new filter again. If one could edit one's "saved searches list by the NAME of the filter, it'd be easy to delete it. But your suggestion didn't bring up anything that could help me get rid of the two empty filters. Neither has a delete button.
- George Hall (Australia)
Karl:don't know whether my desktop wasn't showing the left-side bar, but late last night, I was looking at a list of my saved searches with the delete button active for all things in the list. Finally got rid of those two items that were only bringing up a search/filter page. That left-side bar with all listed searches is an elegant solution.
- George Hall (Australia)
Dont like it. No longer can get Twit Conversations to show up in Groups.. only in Home even if I add it to Groups!
- Greg
"Are you a big fan of hash tags? Or are you wild about boolean searches? Do you find yourself reverting back to "Run DOS Run" instead of just typing and talking like a human being often online? Despite billions of dollars of investment and a plethora of companies trying to develop natural language (especially in search), we still have a long way to go."
- Chris Messina
from Mento
This is mainly a UI issue I think. You can find almost anything if you use all the filters available (AND,OR,+,-,filter:,""), it's just that they're annoying to type and remember for most. If the app developer put a UI in front of the typical search box and *not* called it 'Advanced Search', it would help guide the user to a more successful search.
- Mohamed J
Internets are 30 years old, WWW is getting older than our school children. We got the world plastered in tags for six years now (thanks to Flickr and Delicious). And Web Marketers along with "Social Media Experts" don't get what "metadata" is. Still. Makes us all sad.
- Urbansheep
Who says the human language is the most expressive one? While I believe that natural language recognition *will* improve I also bet that we'll adapt to "machine languages", too.
- Fabian Neumann
Humans don't generally speak in 140 character bursts, to be fair.
- David Young
And your alternative for indexing groups, movements, thoughts, behaviors in 140 characters would be?
- Gregg Scott
Machines are some of the nicest people I know. Don't be a hater :-)
- Todd Hoff
Hashtags are underrated and over-maligned here. Machines should not be expected with <140 chars to classify a half-baked thought into a meaningful meme that fits into a hierarchical structure. Hashtags may not always be necessary but they can be useful for top-down content organization.
- Ryan Miller
Used judiciously, hashtags can be very useful indeed as I found myself when I got encouraged to live tweet 2 Pharma meetings many of my friends wanted to follow easily but couldn't attend.
- Sally Church
The machines help us to promote our messages (tag oriented services). Until all machines are configured to do otherwise, I'll still speak to the machines.
- KyleHase
from twhirl
Why not talk the native language? If I'm in France, what should I speak? I do a lot of (non-union) light work for theatres. If I tell the director that a lamp has blown, they fear they lost a piece of equipment that costs several hundreds of dollars. I constantly have to remind myself to use "non-technical" theatre terms in a theatre environment. (lamp==light bulb for most people.) Ever talk to a musician? Won't go into anything else. What you define as language can also be as slang or technical language...
- Todd Zaba
When machines understand human language, they'll decide we're primitive and kill us all. Fact. :P
- Bwana ☠
When people evolve to the point that they can aggregate masses of information and recall it at will, I'll take Jeremiah's request more seriously. Until then, I will continue to follow his primitive tweets.
- jcunwired
Rochelle: if someone sends you a direct message (http://beta.friendfeed.com/filter...) or replies to a direct message you send, you will get an email, and you can reply by email as well.
- Bret Taylor
Awesome! now we can also do it by SMS right? (not IM)
- Alfredo
Bret, how do you get to that URL if it's not typed in directly? Where is the account setting?
- Rochelle
I was wondering what happens when I send a DM to someone who doesn't use beta. I guess after today they will get an email?
- Laura Norvig
Rochelle: at the bottom of every email that you get, there is a link - "Unsubscribe from FriendFeed mail" - that takes you to the link that Bret posted.
- Tudor Bosman
Tudor, there should be a link in the settings to change that. You shouldn't have to get an email to get a link to it.
- Rochelle
seems to work well. jut tested it out with someone
- Cee Bee
Rochelle, there will be, once we convert the settings page to the new UI, possibly before that.
- Tudor Bosman
Rochelle: the email settings are also at https://friendfeed.com/account..., but the Beta is catching up with the account settings UI still. It will be in there imminently, just rolling things out progressively.
- Bret Taylor
Okay, excellent. Thanks for the update!
- Rochelle
If an entry is sent directly to you and as well as other feeds will it come via email? This can be a little ambiguous in my opinion with the potential for people to respond to direct messages that aren't private. I think its a great step though!
- Frankie Warren
Why can't Twitter do this? Oh, yeah, their engineers suck.
- Robert Scoble
Cool... Now my mailbox will seem more full ;)
- Bindu Reddy
How did the DM feature work before this? There were no emails sent when someone DMed you?
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu: this is correct. DMs would only show up in your feed (and in the "Direct messages" filter).
- Tudor Bosman
On the DM feed, does a >> icon indicate privacy or just the fact that it is a DM ?
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
>> indicates that it is a DM. All DMs are private (unless cross-posted to a public feed, or to public rooms).
- Tudor Bosman
I posted a DM to a room ... that's the same as doing a post really, isn't it? I think it disappeared from my DM list.
- Laura Norvig
Yes, a "DM" to a room is the same as a post. Rather, the other way around: if you "post" to another user, we call that a DM.
- Tudor Bosman
What!! than it was not really a DM till now...;) Good work. Did our chat at B&B inspire any of this or was this in the works already?
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu: we've had this (and "a handful of direct message and email enhancements") working internally in some form or another for about 2 weeks.
- Tudor Bosman
@Tudor I see, so the >> indicates DMness, but not necessarily privacy. Do you think we need a privacy icon - like the one we have for private Feeds (rooms) ?
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Got it. Congrats! Good stuff. Though I am not totally sure about sending emails on the comments. It makes total sense for the 1st DM message
- Bindu Reddy
Ahsan: Let's say that you receive a message from me. You can look at the list of recipients. If it says "Tudor Bosman to you", it's private. If it says "to you, Tudor's feed, and FriendFeed Feedback", it's not (it's crossposted to my (public) feed and to the (public) FriendFeed Feedback room).
- Tudor Bosman
Pretty cool! Is it possible to set this up to an SMS instead of an email address?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
@Scobleizer I get all my Twitter DM's via SMS and have for a long time.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Tudor: i guess it's similar to checking if people were cc'd on an email... but at the same time i think the potential to mess up is higher. especially since the feed paradigm takes some getting used to in the first place.
- Frankie Warren
Mark: not right now. (The message isn't formatted in a way suitable for 140 characters...)
- Tudor Bosman
Frankie: agreed. We may change the way locks and ">>" are displayed to reduce some of the confusion.
- Tudor Bosman
Mark: SMS is not email. Twitter's DM sucks compared to friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert I agree it isn't optimal but many, many people using Twitter don't have a smartphone and still want to get their DM's when mobile. I also agree this feature now on Friendfeed is the right way to do it.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Excellent - I depend on email notifications for DMs from Twitter. Great to see it here.
- Hutch Carpenter
Why Facebook can't get this right is beyond me. Thank you for resisting the urges of noreply and donotreply email addresses :)
- Jay Cuthrell
Thanks for all the love! If you notice any bugs (especially related to replying by email -- missing, incomplete, or incorrectly formatted comments) please let us know by forwarding a few affected messages (including full headers, if possible) to feedback@friendfeed.com. Thanks!
- Tudor Bosman
OK... so the structure of the email address is 'ignore.<username>@friendfeed.com'. Does this mean in the future I will be able to DM someone by emailing something like 'message.<username>@friendfeed.com'?
- Johnny Worthington
Thank you! Any plans to add it to the FF Notification tool?
- Josh Haley
Bret, thanks! And Mark, as a workaround re: wanting to get DMs via SMS, it's pretty easy to set a forwarding filter on one's e-mail to [number]@tmomail.net or whatever your carrier's SMS gateway is. Okay, that's minorly geeky, but IMHO not much of a hurdle at all :)
- Adam Lasnik
You can configure multiple email addresses on your account page (http://friendfeed.com/account/); for now, we'll send mail to the one you designate as "primary". You can set [number]@tmomail.net as the primary address and we'll happily send mail to it, which should be delivered as SMS; however, the email messages that we sent won't be properly formatted or clipped to 140 characters, so they may look ugly or get split over multiple SMS messages (and so you may get charged more if you pay per use).
- Tudor Bosman
Adam that is exactly what i did. its very easy
- Alfredo
from fftogo
This feature really rocks. I'm glad it's built into the system here instead of having to be provided by a 3rd party as is is on twitter.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Great news. I admire your profession on e-mails.
- Alp
+1 that the lock and >> icons need a bunch of work (rethought?). The emailing is a very nice thing to have, though. But could we also possibly turn it off please? :)
- Karl Knechtel
I only seem to use it when twitter is down. A better iPhone app might bring me around more often more "reader" like features (ie, let me add feeds and info that only I see like my google reader subscriptions and all of the tweets from my account on twitter)
- Scott Watermasysk
If it's not on friendfeed, I'm not interested, Thomas. :)
- Alex Scoble
Best ignore those that think they know what is going on and preach about it.
- CW™
Uhh oh, don't I act like that sometimes, CW? *goes and cries in a corner*
- Alex Scoble
Your a scoble.. I don't think you can help it. ;) But you back up your statements, allow others the chance to change your mind and not go off to a Ashram and sulk when people complain about you. ;)
- CW™
People are complaining about me? *goes and cries in a corner*
- Alex Scoble
You mean yesterday's news Arrington ??? Or today's embargo Arrington?
- David HC Soul
I just read Arrington's post and commented via FriendFeed (not to make any philosophical point, but because I'm on an older mobile phone right now using fftogo). While I had some quibbles, the fact remains that there are far fewer FriendFeed users than there are Facebook users. Then again, there are far fewer Twitter users than Facebook users, so simplicity isn't everything...
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
The word I heard him use was "nobody", not "fewer", "nobody"...Perhaps I'm wrong though...either way, I don't care. I find friendfeed to be eminently more entertaining and useful than Twitter or Facebook.
- Alex Scoble
I'm going with Scoble, and betting on this horse. This new UI is just a thing of beauty. This is how it should be. They're the ones who've found the Grail Castle. This is it right here. I'm just loving it.
- Web Nex
Here. But off to bed soon. Back later. G'nite, FF.
- Lisa L. Seifert
Love the new beta. Really nice job to Team FF!
- Marc Chung
Wow, a whole ~120 people ... over 5 hours. I used to play on MUDs 10+ years ago with more simultaneous users. FF is 98% Scoble-hype noise, 2% RSS crawling.
- Dossy Shiobara
@bec rowe - fine, I'll be generous, suppose there's a whole ORDER OF MAGNITUDE more users, 10x or 1,200 ... this is a big deal? Most major IRC networks each have 60k+ concurrent users and that's tech that's 15+ years old now.
- Dossy Shiobara
for such a "new and improved" UI, why do I have to scroll ALL the way back up to click the "comment" link? what, did none of the UX people think "gee, putting it at the bottom of the list of comments would be a good idea"?
- Dossy Shiobara
seriously, people, stop being sheep. FF is cute but it's a pet rock.
- Dossy Shiobara
Exactly -- I come here to escape from Facebook and when I want more conversation than Twitter :) Sheep we are not. ;)
- Mona Nomura
I have 3 tabs locked into the first three positions of my always-open Firefox window: Google Reader, Gmail and you guessed it... FriendFeed.
- Brooks Bishop
Absolutley! Great aggregator, but have to use Twirl or other app at work
- Jonathan Decker
from twhirl
Who the hell is Michael Arrington, and why should I give two tugs of a dead dog's cock what he thinks?
- Steven Perez
damn you steven perez... speak ya mind for a change!!! ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Perez: Some meatbag with an overblown sense of self importance
- Mo Kargas
Arrington is a Web 1.0 dinosaur trying to make himself relevant still by being Jerry Springer without the entertainment value.
- Bob M. Montgomery
from twhirl
Just to note: I know damn well who Arrington is. He's that meatsack whose website couldn't hold its load for a few hours. But I'm serious about not caring what he thinks.
- Steven Perez
that's r scoble too mo... ooops I'll get bashed! :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
something tells me THIS proves how little he uses this place ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
That's OK, I get the sense that most people here couldn't care less. :) We use friendfeed because we like it, not because some A-Lister that doesn't even participate here thinks we should or shouldn't.
- Alex Scoble
*comment deleted to keep up appearances that I'm a nice guy*
- Michael W. May
Shouldn't this be on a TC post since all those comments will be sucked into the blog itself?
- coldbrew
agreed alex, if you watch your brother's video of the pre-beta walk through from last weekend, mike was there, engaged and asked good questions of bret and paul, but then he goes off and belittles ff & those using it - immature or trollish not sure which it is...
- mike "glemak" dunn
But Alex.. your bro is a supposed A-lister...
- Rob Sellen :o)
dunn: Arrington is providing feedback. I'm sure team-FF can handle it.
- coldbrew
yeah the feedback he provides is..."the worse way to use friendfeed" :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
My brother also participates here a lot, so when he says something is great or sucks here he has some authority...certainly a lot more authority on the subject than you know who.
- Alex Scoble
i am and its soo much better. Tell mike the tech rumors are better here, too.
- Roberto Bonini
my head hurts. || button is my friend
- Todd Randolph
Right on Alex! To enhance what I said yesterday, FriendFeed is the "coolest app" to consume information on the Internet and interact with smart people.
- Eric Berlin
Nah, I never use FriendFeed. FriendFeed uses me! Don't ask.
- Brad Butner
from twhirl
*rolls eyes* Outlandish statements are how Arrington moves the space. It doesn't matter how the space moves, as long as it moves, then Arrington can remora off it. He doesn't care who wins or how his little bombs affect anyone, just as long as it moves somewhere. He's like a weapons dealer who foments the extension of wars so he can sell the weapons to both sides.
- Matthew DeVries
It's Michael Arrington. His ego is the size of the Sun and is infinitely expanding like the universe. All I hear is "blah blah blah blah blah blah blah."
- Zach Flauaus
My thread was first and my brother was just being a copycat. First!
- Alex Scoble
Put both threads in a room, and similpost in both. The power of the exponent!
- Matthew DeVries
yep, that Scoble is a copycat !! :)-
- Peter Dawson
I think the only way to settle this is with a good old fashioned slap fight. Or a drinking contest... Either way we need video of it.
- Joe Pierce
But I said "First!" That's the internet beat down right there.
- Alex Scoble
more comments than likes? how can that be... you commenter's who have yet to like...like.. and those who have yet comment...comment..and like ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I'm down with FreindFeed. My usage has skyrocketed since the beta launch.
- Tim