Actually, as far as I can tell, Like in FB does do something: it's basically an empty comment, so you get notified of new comments that occur after you Like it.
- Mistletoe Glen
@Glen: it's true but what bothers me most is that unlike friendfeed, fb delivers a separate mail for every person that comments on that post. #lame
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
I would just like to go on record here and clearly state that, were I able to do what this lion is doing, I WOULD NOT! NO! NEVER! EVER! Thank you.
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Mark, not even if they were dipped in chocolate?
- Adrian
Yau'll are some sick _ucks. Let the King have a private moment for God's sake. Shame on you people. Can't yau'll see he's welcomed in the jungle. He went down south :)
- Jeunelle Foster
I love these sorts of creative things!
- Rick Cogley
I always wish they'd show what these things look like from something other than the exactly perfect perspective. Because to most people passing by these would look totally different.
- Brian Johns
These never get old. Thanks for sharing. :)
- Kevin Winn
New York Times says Twitter users are being paid to put ads in their Twitter streams now. Sure hope Twitter doesn't end up looking like, well, the NYTimes. I wonder how much they get paid for that big old Viagra ad at the top of their story anyways?http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
"De jonge lepelaar die via de site van de Natuurmonumenten was te volgen op zijn trektocht naar het zuiden, is dood. Een Franse jager heeft hem neergeschoten. [...] Natuurmonumenten meldt dat Harrie is doodgeschoten in de buurt van een natuurgebied in Platier d’Oye, vlakbij Duinkerken. Jagen is daar verboden, maar vermoedelijk verliet Harrie het veilige rustgebied op zoek naar voedsel. Otto Overdijk van Natuurmonumenten reageert geschokt. “Ik heb lepelaar Harrie deze zomer zelf geringd en met een zender uitgerust. Wij doen in Nederland onze stinkende best om ervoor te zorgen dat deze vogelsoort kan overleven. Het doet pijn dat een Franse jager hem tijdens de trek naar het zuiden afknalt.”"
- Ton Zijp
from Bookmarklet
"The rules are simple: I put the self-timer on 2 seconds, push the button and try to get as far from the camera as I can."
- Ton Zijp
from Bookmarklet
To my humble opinion 1 of the greatest useless ideas ever made to fill up a blog. Close to genius, this man is. You don't see his face, you just get to see his back, his changing clothing from photograph to photograph, depending on what season, what weather it is, sometimes he has a slightly different haircut, sometimes he wears a hat, he's been to a wedding or otherwise a funeral once,...
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- Ton Zijp
The postcard says "Postage will be paid by addressee", which implies it's the senator who will be paying the postage. Of course, the senator's franking privileges may make it so that the taxpayers pay the postage.
- Gabe
True. But why is it that the Senator Hagan/taxpayers should be paying for Blue Cross' message?
- Christopher Chung
My friend did this, too. I hope I get one in the mail.
- Ayşe E.
They haven't sent me one of these, but when they do, I'll be sure to mail it in unmodified (or with a big "NO ON PUBLIC OPTION" written on it, perhaps). The very notion of government run health insurance is a travesty that will end up bankrupting this country.
- Otto
So you don't think Medicare or the Veterans Health Administration is going to pan out, even after all these years?
- Mark Trapp
Medicare and the VA system are living proof of my statements. They offer crappy service and are continually costing more and more as time goes on. They are unsustainable in the long term, and basically expanding these failures to cover everybody is only going to accelerate the problem.
- Otto
What's long term? The VA system has been going since 1778, and Medicare since 1965. Are you thinking at the 300 year mark, they'll finally collapse?
- Mark Trapp
Right on! Good for you! That's a great idea
- Ciaoenrico
Our Canadian single-payer health care has been going strong for some time now with no risk of bankruptcy. I'd like to see some evidence that our system is unsustainable.
- Matt Mastracci
The VA system is garbage, ask any veteran who has to use it on a regular basis. And medicare is on the verge of bankruptcy, and has been for at least decade now. Last I checked, medicare was the biggest drain of tax revenue that exists. Predictions I've seen give it 10 more years, tops, even with restructuring.
- Otto
Of course, the assertion that government-run health insurance is unsustainable (whether Medicare, the VA, the Canadian system, or any other) raises the question of what system is more sustainable than government-run insurance. It's certainly not the current American one. ... I love April's use of the mailer.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favor of health care reform... But insurance reform is unnecessary. The problem is not the insurance companies, their reactions and bad-behaviors are created by the high cost of medical care to begin with. Fix the health care system to not cost so damn much, and the problems with insurance will solve themselves. Strike at the source of the problems, not at the consequences of them.
- Otto
Otto: Insurance causes high prices of medical care. Since you don't pay, the hospital can set its prices arbitrarily high and the insurance company pays whatever its maximum is. Since the insurance company pays so much, they have to have high insurance rates, which makes insurance expensive to buy. If the government had their own insurance, they would be big enough to demand low prices,...
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- Gabe
That's insane. The existence of insurance does not cause the high price of medial care. You have it exactly backwards. Furthermore, the idea of a government-run-insurance plan would not solve that problem, if it was at all the truth, because you're dealing with a supply demand situation. The government run plan could say they weren't going to pay above $X, at which point the medical...
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- Otto
The truth is that most of the waste in medical costs comes from two places: administrative overhead and fraud. Both of these are primarily caused by Medicare and the bureaucracy surrounding it.
- Otto
@Otto - why do you think there is so much administrative overhead? To deal with all the different insurance companies and the reems of paperwork to get a claim approved and avoid malpractice suits. That means more people have to be hired and trained just to deal with all that stuff and more systems and processes have to be put in place to handle it all. Insurance companies make more...
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
@Lindsay: I know several people who work in administrative roles in hospitals. Not one of them agrees with you. The problem isn't the insurance forms and such, those are fairly standard. Almost all of the administrative overhead is due specifically to Medicare. And no, I do not work in the health insurance industry, so your ad-hominem attack makes no sense whatsoever. Why is it that...
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- Otto
@Robert: I'm not ignoring evidence from other countries, I'm discounting most of it based on facts that contradict the ones you are linking to. And Medicare has lower costs than private insurance because it rarely pays for anything. How many people who have medicare must also have their own insurance in order to get proper medical treatment? Have you looked up the numbers on that?
- Otto
Otto, how does limiting the pricing result in providers refusing service? In Canada, the Federal Government sets the pricing schedule, but the private providers are still here, providing us good service for a set fee. More info on our system: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... I would say that our health care system is an excellent counterpoint to "if you fix the fees at a certain point, providers will stop providing service".
- Matt Mastracci
Otto - would you care to share some references which contain the facts that contradict those which I shared? I am open-minded, but I need to see actual data from credible sources to form my opinions.
- Robert Felty
How does Otto make the claim that insurance isn't even part of the problem when medical loss ratios in the health insurance business have dropped from 95% to 80% in just 15 years? (and if you don't know what that means, you don't have an informed opinion about health care reform.)
- Andrew C
I am always amazed at the ignorance of those arguing against public health care services when practically the entire world is doing it and they always have their facts wrong about Medicare and every other system. They'll become advocates when they or their loved ones are being evicted or foreclosed upon while they are dying an excruciating and untreated death.
- Brad Nickel
Otto, just exactly how many veterans have you actually talked to? The VA definitely has flaws, but all the veterans I've talked to seem to like the service provided, and often compare it favorably to the private sector. And why are all those people out there so opposed to changing Medicare if it's so terrible? Since you've stated you haven't seen a doctor in decades, how could you possibly have any experience with any health care system whatsoever?
- Victor Ganata
FFS... @Matt: Canada has a lower doctor to patient ratio than anybody else does, and it's decreasing all the time. @Robert: You have Google. Use it. I wouldn't believe links you provide me, so why should you believe links I provide you? Do your own research and make up your own mind. I'm not trying to convince you or anybody else, and I frankly don't care what you believe. @Andrew C:...
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- Otto
*shrug* I'm supposed to be swayed by second-hand anecdotal evidence from someone who doesn't have any recent direct experience with any health care system? If you don't care, why do you continue to post?
- Victor Ganata
*shrug* I'm supposed to be swayed by somebody who actually has a vested interest in the health care system (ie, a doctor)? See, I can use fallacious arguments as well as you can, Victor! ;) Also, I post to express my opinions and ideas. Why else would anybody post anything?
- Otto
Otto, your facts on doctor:patient ratio are incorrect. Our ratio is 2.2 per 1000, versus 2.4 per 1000 in the USA. In fact, our ratio has improved from 2.1 in the 1990s. While our doctor:patient ratio is not as high as other public health care systems, it isn't far off that of the USA.
- Matt Mastracci
Otto, but, fair is fair, so long as you don't pretend your anecdotes are generalizable truth, I won't pretend mine are either. It is clear that you do have quite a grasp on fallacious arguments. :) And I do agree that it's important to consider the source of your evidence.
- Victor Ganata
Otto, the dropping medical loss ratio specifically means an increasing share of premiums isn't going towards paying for health care; that is /by itself/ inherently bad! In an actual working market, advances in efficiency, if any, would be passed along to the consumers in the form of lower premiums. Instead, prices are getting jacked up even faster than health care inflation because the health care insurance industry exploits monopoly power.
- Andrew C
@Matt: According to the WHO: http://nofearsingapore.blogspot.com/2007... the numbers are slightly different. Close, admittedly. However, the important thing to note is that Canada's ratio is the lowest among almost all industrialized countries, which was my point. I was not comparing to the US, specifically.
- Otto
@Andrew C: I understand what "medical loss ratio" means. I understand what "profit" and "premiums" are. What I don't understand is why you think a company should not be allowed to make a legitimate profit? Insurance is gambling. If you don't like the bet, then don't gamble. Or, if you really want to see the loss ratios decrease, then ALLOW COMPETITION. Currently there is virtually no...
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- Otto
You make no sense. A company should certainly be allowed to make a legitimate profit, but indefinitely extracting rent at this level is a clear symptom of market-setting power. Trying to call one the other doesn't actually make them the same thing. Also, people can only reasonably get it from their employer _because that's the only affordable option_. Individual insurance exists; it's...
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- Andrew C
I find it pretty funny BTW that you have implicitly agreed with the rest of us that the health care _insurance_ industry actually is part of the problem.
- Andrew C
"Insurance is gambling. If you don't like the bet, then don't gamble." It shouldn't have to be a game. Everyone is going to need medical attention at some point in their life. It's a matter of how you will be able to afford to pay for it. People pay for insurance because it's the only way they can afford to ensure that their health will be taken care of. It's not really an option if you...
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
lolling at the "insurance is a gamble" statement. Classic.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
It's the conservative message: You're On Your Own.
- Andrew C
For the record, I'm not a conservative. I'm also not a liberal. I'm a person, with my own opinions and ideas. Labeling people only means that you're not paying attention to what they're saying.
- Otto
@Andrew C: Individual insurance is priced out of the market because of regulations limiting what kinds of plans can be offered. Why can I not a health insurance plan for, say, emergencies only? I'm healthy, I don't have any need to go to the doctor much, I never get sick, the only reason I'd need to do so would be an accident. So why can't I buy that insurance? State regulations...
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- Otto
@Lindsay: Your statements are provably false. Not everyone is going to need medical attention at some point in their lives. Furthermore, if your statement was true, health insurance would not work at all, since the entire point of "insurance" is to spread risk. If risk was 100%, as you claim, then there's nothing to spread. For the record, I do not currently have, nor need, health...
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- Otto
So basically you're gambling, hoping that you will "win the game". At what point do you decide you need insurance? And hopefully you don't get anything before then. It is pointless to argue with someone like this, just let him enjoy his smug satisfaction on having figured out the whole mess.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
Everyone has some chance of getting hit by a bus or eating E.coli tainted food or having a tree branch fall on them. {shrug}
- Andrew C
Except for the winners who have somehow divined ways not to do so, I guess.
- Andrew C
Otto is completely right. Insurance, not having insurance, it's all gambling. What's relevant is regulation limits choices; or forces one person's judgement and preferences on another. Big government healthcare won't work because the government can't do anything well because unlike a market it doesn't have distributed knowlege and I don't think the incentives are right. Witness the UK's...
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- Rob Fisher
While I don't know if we're using the word catastrophe in the same way, clearly there are policies that have very high deductibles where realistically, the only time they would pay benefits would be if you ended up hospitalized. And there are plenty of policies that don't cover preventative care at all. Even these types of policies are out of the reach of quite a few Americans.
- Victor Ganata
What a silly response Otto. Its all emotional. Why do you think the argument here is so passionate? The fact that you would even dismiss it that way tells me everything I need to know about your point of view and existence. Sad.
- Brad Nickel
from email
If "the government can't do anything well" why do they even exist? Unless you're an anarchist, I can't see how it makes sense.
- Victor Ganata
There are limited things governments might be good at. Defense of the realm; keeping the peace. They are not good at providing goods and services. When they try to provide (or control the supply of) food, for example, you get famine. That's because you need market signals to stimulate [the right amount of] supply [and demand<delete], and that information is not centralised. The same problem affects government supplied healthcare. Hence waiting lists.
- Rob Fisher
We have waiting lists now. In what way are the NHS's waiting lists worse than the delays caused by having to argue with insurance companies to get coverage for diagnostic tests, procedures, and specialist referrals?
- Victor Ganata
Because the latter involves the invisible hand somehow!
- Andrew C
It's hard to say. I'm not arguing that you don't have a problem, just that more government isn't the solution. E.g. on the NHS you often end up paying for your own treatment anyway just so you get it in time. This is not an improvement.
- Rob Fisher
So that's not really different from the current system we have now: you can always pay cash. I think "more government isn't the solution" is a bare assertion that needs a fair amount of evidence to actually prove.
- Victor Ganata
Medicare and the VHA have waiting lists? Really? I haven't ever heard anyone waiting for Medicare, and it's single payer. I haven't heard of anyone in England (or Canada, or any other developed country) put on a waiting list. Do you have evidence to support that? You would write off education, food safety, the highway system, firemen, and air safety as well? Seems like you're asking for a very extreme form of government that isn't very much like what developed countries are or what they provide.
- Mark Trapp
Otto: The way that discourse works in research-based journals is that one person makes a claim, and backs that up with either data, and/or references to other research. I would happily read any references you give. I don't understand why you wouldn't look at references that I give.
- Robert Felty
Rob Fisher: if government controlled healthcare doesn't work, then why does Canada spend less on health care per person, but have lower infant mortality rates, and longer life expectancy? In addition, these numbers have improved since they started their single payer system, while our numbers have basically remained flat. http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues...
- Robert Felty
Victor: What can I say? You probably won't be impressed by my Austrian economics theory. You could come and live in the UK and get sick, and see what it's like. :) I do hope the USA manages to avoid the worst of it. Maybe look around at what many other countries do; I don't think anyone gets it quite right. Singapore seems to have good healthcare; but their statistics look good partly...
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- Rob Fisher
Part of the reason all healthcare isn't like that is because not all health procedures and exams are as simple as eye exams.
- Andrew C
I also think it's fallacious to believe we're actually arguing about a completely government controlled system. The public option is not even close to a true single-payer system, and nowhere near a nationalized health care system. It is quite similar to Medicare, except with different eligibility criteria, and as far as I can tell, Medicare doesn't seem to have destroyed the private health insurance industry, no matter how many people try to argue that slippery slope.
- Victor Ganata
You probably can't get a new liver in an hour and expect to have a good outcome no matter where you go.
- Victor Ganata
But you should be able to get simple scans and tests quickly and cheaply. You can't on the NHS. The point about this not being about an NHS-like system is taken, though.
- Rob Fisher
If you are insured by a private insurer in the US your health fate is decided by insurance underwriters and doctor panels whose sole mandate is to save and make money for the company- not to keep you healthy or prevent you from getting sick or sicker. A doctor's intuition on what a patient may need, even in terms of preventative/investigative testing is hooey as far as they are...
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- Karma Martell
How do we get to a point where you can make money by keeping people healthy? People want to be healthy, so it must be doable.
- Rob Fisher
The prescription drug cos would fold, Rob. That is not what they want.
- Karma Martell
i wish i could do more than "like" this. oh, and while i'm here loving this, @Rob Fisher -- my answer is, make money doing something other than "keeping people healthy" -- putting profit and human life in the same objective is bound to have some horrifying conflicts of interest, no matter how pure the "health" motivation is. and with $$ involved, it will never even be close to approximating pure.
- (dot)lizard kelly
@Rob - you can make money by keeping people healthy, but as (dot)lizard kelly just said, you can make _more_ money by not... for example, by collecting premiums from healthy people and denying coverage to your sick customers.
- Andrew C
@kelly - I wouldn't mind people profiting by keeping people healthy. Hospitals and doctors do that. The trouble with insurance companies is that they profit by denying people care.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Karma: As long as *someone* can make money at it, doesn't matter who. (dot)lizard kelly: food is important to be healthy; people make money at providing food; no conflict of interest there. I'm not convinced there's anything so different about healthcare. I'll sleep on it and let you know if I have thought of an amazing business plan in the morning. And if it doesn't work, I'll be looking for regulations that stop it working.
- Rob Fisher
(I suspect the reason is you can't switch insurance companies easily.)
- Rob Fisher
Simple scans and tests frequently lead to incidental findings that are almost always benign but lead to literal million dollar workups. I actually don't think easy access to everything is always the right answer.
- Victor Ganata
The food example may not be a good counter-argument here in the U.S., where farmers have actually been paid not to grow things in order to artificially keep prices up.
- Victor Ganata
Evidently you and others that spout this free market gobbldy gook have never worked for corporate America and the absolute incompetence in those organizations. Hello , can you say mortgage, banking, savings and loan, energy, etc etc etc. It is a lie and a myth and you folks have gotten away with it for far too long! Thanks, Brad
- Brad Nickel
from email
I have worked for corp America. As Brad says, free market is never free. The wealth is not distributed. There needs to be accountability and standards. As Obama says, an insurance co should not be able to come between a decision made by you and your doctor. And Victor, it's about fair access, not just access if you have the money and you can override the system.
- Karma Martell
The problem is that access is controlled by two forces: actual medical need, and the need to generate a profit, and lots of times these forces end up opposing each other. As the costs of medical care continue to increase, I think we're going to have to decide as a society which is actually more important.
- Victor Ganata
This is not to say that I don't think people who actually provide the care shouldn't be compensated for their labor. (In my case, that's just self-interest.) But there's a huge difference between fair compensation and outright profiteering.
- Victor Ganata
So who is paying for the "Public Option"?
- Brett Veenstra
And who here does not know Blue Cross is a private company.
- Mahmood Padura
If you go by what's in the House bill, the public option will initially be financed by seed money from the federal government that is supposed to be paid back in 10 years. In the long run, it's supposed to be funded entirely by the premiums of people who choose to participate in the plan.
- Victor Ganata
Otto: it is not the existence of insurance companies that keep prices high (auto insurance's existence doesn't make auto repairs artificially inflated), it is how the system works. If I am a healthcare provider and you are a patient who will only pay $100 no matter how expensive the treatment is, I can set the price as high as I want. Your insurance might only cover $500, but somebody else's might cover $1000 or $5000, so there's no reason I shouldn't set my price at $5000 for the treatment.
- Gabe
Furthermore, let's say that there's a 1% chance that you'll need another $5000 test (an MRI perhaps). If you do need it and I don't give it to you, there's a chance you'll sue me and my malpractice insurance goes way up. If I give it to you and you don't need it, you don't care because you're not paying for it. You end up getting lots unnecessary tests just so I don't get sued. In...
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- Gabe
I dunno, didn't Japan solve the MRI problem by providing lots of them and driving the cost-per-exam down? ( http://www.pbs.org/wgbh... )
- Andrew C
And besides, the insurance companies in the States deal with that problem by denying procedures.
- Andrew C
It might be instructive to look at the US airline industry before and after deregulation. It used to be that prices were fixed, so airlines competed on service. This meant that service was good, and profits were built-in so airlines weren't constantly in bankruptcy. It also meant that flying was a luxury that most people could not afford, which made it not so crowded either. After...
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- Gabe
Unless you intend on repealing EMTALA, access to emergency care regardless of ability to pay is in fact a guaranteed right in the U.S.
- Victor Ganata
Hmmmm... Unless Crutis you think they fall within Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness! Thanks, Brad
- Brad Nickel
from email
What of someone is happiest if they choose not to acquire health care insurance? It would seem to me that the imposition would thwart their pursuit and remove their liberty.
- Mattb4rd
When are we going to learn that the cake really is a lie? Re: Washington D.C. - I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
- Mattb4rd
Civilization is impossible without some form of government. The idea that we can live without it is the lie.
- Victor Ganata
No, the lie is that government is somehow required in all aspects of daily life. Civilization does need government, but mostly it needs it to stay as small as possible and leave people alone as much as possible. You are not a child. Grow up and deal with your own problems instead of expecting the rest of society to take care of you.
- Otto
BTW, a "public option" doesn't actually bother me provided you use absolutely zero tax money to pay for it. Make it paid for entirely by the premiums of the people who opt-in to it, and I have no further argument against it whatsoever. (Also, eliminate the part of the current plan that imposes tax penalties on those of us who choose to not have health insurance, as that is simply flat-out wrong. If I choose to cover my own risk, then that is my business, not the governments.)
- Otto
Yeah Otto, that works well. For example banks, mortgage companies, savings and loans, toys from China, Enron.... The naive Libertarian view of the world that somehow everything will work out in the end and all will be well makes me laugh every time I hear it. Greed, perversion, violence, and chaos don't go away when the government goes away. Human run institutions are all equally flawed...
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- Brad Nickel
from email
Brad: I don't know what world you're living in, but it's not the same one I am. Government has done very little good in the world, and is in fact responsible for the vast majority of evil in it. Perhaps you forget who's waging wars, eh? A few people inconvenienced by a bank or who signed bad mortgages doesn't really much compare to millions and millions of dead people. Also, "this...
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- Otto
Sure, because the US Department of Defense had absolutely nothing to do with the Internet whatsoever. But I agree. To believe that the government is either completely virtuous or always evil is delusional.
- Victor Ganata
Actually Otto, religion and greed are responsible for most of the wars. Whether a government fights them or not is irrelevant and these days its private corporations that are fighting much of our wars and doing a piss poor job of it as evidenced by the debacle that is Iraq. That there is a fine example of where we should have let government run things, but we had to privatize things at...
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- Brad Nickel
from email
@Victor: The DoD had very little to do with creating the internet, short of funding it. They paid for it in order to connect universities together (whom they were funding for other projects as well). It's not like they sent over a bunch of engineers to lay some cables or actually wrote any of the protocols or anything. Vint Cerf didn't actually go work for DARPA until 1976. The first pipes were laid when he was still in school.
- Otto
@Brad: It's amazing to me that anybody can espouse a philosophy like yours, which enables governments to control the population and do basically anything they like, including killing millions of innocent people through senseless wars and immoral legislation. Corporations didn't bomb Iraq and Afghanistan, the federal government did. Corporations didn't lie to us about the non-existent...
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- Otto
Yes, because ordinary people with no funding or government backing whatsoever can always complete large scale worldwide projects if they just work hard enough, without any assistance. Rugged individualism FTW.
- Victor Ganata
@Victor: Why must everything come down to "large scale" and "worldwide" in your view? Are you so incapable of taking care of your own problems that you want to a) take care of everybody else's and b) have yours taken care of by everybody else? We're talking about health care. Why must "health" be a worldwide problem, to the extent that you want to take away individual rights in favor of...
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- Otto
Otto, where are we talking about taking away individual rights? I'm talking about HR 3200, not some fantastical single payer system or some nationalized health care system from your paranoid nightmares. Don't be a fool. Look around you right now. Clearly health can be a worldwide problem. And it's disingenuous to believe the Internet would have been built if some government hadn't been around to provide funding.
- Victor Ganata
Silly Otto... Its obvious that an informed conversation with you is impossible, since you are unable to defend your actual philosophy or arguments and rely upon distortions and extremely silly exaggerations to try and make a point when the question being asked can not be answered with the truth. This happens every single time I debate a Libertarian. They can't explain themselves or how...
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- Brad Nickel
from email
Because we'll have to pay for your silly self to keep you alive when you are sick and dying and don't have coverage.
- Brad Nickel
from email
@Victor: HR3200 takes away my right to choose my own health insurance (in my case, none) by imposing additional taxation and penalties for my choice. It also uses tax money to finance the "public option", which I'm firmly opposed to. And it's disingenuous to believe that the internet would have NOT been built if the government had not provided the funding. It would have happened...
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- Otto
@Brad: I'm tired of listening to your socialist and communist rhetoric. (See? I can apply incorrect labels just as well as you can! I'm not a "Libertarian".) Anyway, if you want the government to control your life, keep it to yourself, I'm not interested. Also, if you can find anywhere I called you anything other than "Brad", I'd be very interested. Note: Saying your ideas amount to "totalitarianism" isn't name-calling when it's true.
- Otto
You are a funny guy Otto and I mean that in all the ways it can be interpreted.
- Brad Nickel
Fine. Welcome to my block list, Brad. If you ever grow up and decide that you want to have a real conversation instead of trolling, then I'll be happy to oblige you. Until then, just rant incoherently to somebody else, eh?
- Otto
LOL. See what I mean. You are funny.
- Brad Nickel
Are you kidding me about the Internet, Otto? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... Note that 2 of the original nodes were UC schools--government funded public schools. With HR 3200, it's obviously going to take money to get the public option up and running, but it's supposed to be paid back in 10 years. As for the mandate, it's not ideal, but I don't see how else it will work. Otherwise,...
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- Victor Ganata
No, I think they are supposed to let him die.
- Brad Nickel
@Victor: No, I'm not kidding, and that link backs up every word I just said about it. As for the public option paying for itself, are you joking? Medicare is continuously in the red (average benefit per person in Medicare is $11,000 per year!) , and you think making a bigger version will somehow magically work? As for the mandate, that's an absolute deal-breaker, because it it is...
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- Otto
That's how government projects almost always work: they award private companies contracts to do the work. Even HR 3200 is structured that way.
- Victor Ganata
If you actually look at it, HR 3200 isn't structured like Medicare. And why is it that state laws that mandate you to carry auto insurance if you drive haven't been struck down by the Supreme Court if it's so unconstitutional? If you're totally healthy there are policies with $10,000 annual deductibles that cost like $50 a month. Obviously, the health insurance companies would rather you pay for a more expensive plan if they can get you to.
- Victor Ganata
Why in the world is a high deductible insurance plan not what you want, Otto?
- Andrew C
"Medicare is continuously in the red" - regular people who aren't on Medicare either lose benefits or coverage entirely or get outrageous rate hikes, so I'm not sure why you seem to keep claiming private insurance is any better...
- Andrew C
My goodness, a single-payer plan in BC costs ~$54/person/month and the deductible is way lower than $10K. And what I lose in 'freedom', I gain back in peace of mind and more money in my pocket overall. (and isn't the glibertarian definition of freedom money?) (Amazingly, the US actually spends as much _government_ money on health care per capita as Canada, and then of course far more in private money on top.)
- Andrew C
@Victor: a) State laws don't require you to carry auto insurance. They require you to carry auto insurance *OR* post a bond for some fixed amount, in case you hit somebody else. and b) Auto insurance is about liability (protecting other people from you), while health insurance is not (it's about about protecting you from other things, people included).
- Otto
@Andrew C: I fail to understand the question. A high deductible insurance plan is not what I want, because it is not what I want. What I want is a health insurance plan that will only cover me from, say, accident. Something that doesn't cover routine crap which I won't be needing anyway, or which I can pay for myself. In cases where there is an accident, I don't want *any* deductible,...
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- Otto
A high deductible plan effectively only covers you for catastrophes, because you're on your own for the first $5K or $10K, so all "routine crap" will be out of pocket.
- Andrew C
BTW, not seeing a doctor even for routine checkups is also gambling. Good luck with that.
- Andrew C
"Effectively" is not the same thing as actually. And if there was some kind of major incident, I'd still be on the hook for the $10k, which is still problematic. Basically, a high deductible means that you're getting no real coverage at all, it's not disaster coverage.
- Otto
The $10k outlay doesn't sound problematic to me; you've been investing your money, right?
- Andrew C
Andrew C: No, it's not. There is no actual need for "routine checkups" in a healthy human being. You'd free to disagree, but I'm just going to say you're wrong, and that is that, so there's no point in arguing it. And whether I can afford $10k or not is beside the point, it's still not the type of coverage I actually need or want.
- Otto
Otto - You have a valid point that insurance is designed to cover catastrophes. It turns out that preventative medicine helps to avoid catastrophes though. So it is in the best interest of insurance companies to encourage their customers to get preventative care. One way to do that is to pay fot it. Another way to do it would be to give people discounts for getting regular checkups, just like you get discounts on auto insurance for having a good driving record.
- Robert Felty
Yeah, there really is no point in arguing with you, not when you just make statements and "that is that". (Good thing cancer never starts off growing in the body for years before becoming a major problem! And that arteries don't ever get clogged before they close up entirely.)
- Andrew C
Robert: Preventative medicine does help to avoid catastrophe, however, it's also far cheaper to cover your own costs there instead of relying on insurance coverage to pay for it for you. It makes no sense for insurance to cover basic care. You don't pay for gasoline with your auto insurance, do you? The fact that insurance covers basic care means added burdens to the administrative overhead, higher premiums, etc, etc. It's a bad system overall.
- Otto
OK, so you want catastrophic coverage that starts from dollar 1 for accidents, but no insurance for routine procedures. I think this is a little ridiculous, but you're right, I don't think insurance companies offer that.
- Andrew C
Insurance companies are actively prevented from offering it, is what you meant to say. Many state laws require certain minimum levels of coverage, so the plan I want/need is unavailable to me because of over-regulation.
- Otto
Preventative care isn't gasoline. Food is the analogy to gasoline. And no, health care insurance doesn't pay for food.
- Andrew C
@Andrew C: Okay then, if you don't like that metaphor... Does your auto insurance pay for oil changes? My point is that health care should not pay for routine stuff *unless I want it to*. I do not want it to, I'm perfectly capable of dealing with routine stuff on my own.
- Otto
Otto - this is not just about you though. It is mostly about the millions of people who don't have any insurance at all right now. Also, with the oil change analogy, that is not quite right either. Standard auto insurance does not pay for vehicle failure. It pays for vehicle damage due to accidents. There probably is a small correlation between frequency of oil changes and automobile accidents, but I bet that the correlation between regular colonoscopies and advanced colon cancer is much higher.
- Robert Felty
Robert: Auto insurance does indeed pay for vehicle failure, if you have comprehensive insurance. Depends on the type of failure. On the other hand, you can get liability insurance to only pay for accidents caused by you, if you so want. You have choice of what to get. And I'd venture to bet that the correlation between colonoscopies and colon cancer is indeed quite high, but in the...
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- Otto
Otto - my dad gets regular colonoscopies, because he has diverticulosis, and I am not ready for him to die just yet.
- Robert Felty
Robert: He has a medical condition. I'd hardly call that "routine maintenance", sort of thing.
- Otto
Sure. The reason why health insurance companies don't offer plans like that are completely because all 50 states have strict mandates, and certainly not because the health insurance companies don't think they're profitable and would prefer that you pay for more coverage. Of course it's always the government's fault, and never the invisible hand's.
- Victor Ganata
Victor: In this case, what I said was in fact true. All 50 states and even the federal government have tons of regulations on the health insurance industry. Rates, premiums, etc.. these are all fixed by the individual states. The insurance companies have to work within a very narrow window of guidelines, sort of thing. This is one reason that so many of them have tried hard to deny...
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- Otto
The only regulation I see that applies to all 50 states is that insurance companies have to be solvent, capable of paying claims, and able to process claims in timely fashion. Fact is, the insurance companies have continued to make record profits despite all these regulations, so I'm not exactly going to cry them a river.
- Victor Ganata
Switzerland gets by with strict regulation... Admittedly, I doubt they have the kind of catastrophe-only plans you like, but (1) the insurers there make it work, and (2) they achieve better coverage and outcomes than the current US system does.
- Andrew C
@Brad Nickel - The right to life does not imply the right to the labor and property of other individuals. Medicine is exactly that: the products and services of tremendously skilled individuals. To claim by right their labor and products is the moral equivalent of slavery.
- Crutis
I just can't get over the rhetoric. It truly makes me laugh outloud. Slave labor. It's not worthy of further debate.
- Brad Nickel
from email
It's hardly slavery when health care professionals take oaths to serve society in exchange for the position of privilege it puts them in. And they provide care that isn't fully compensated quite frequently: it's part and parcel of many of the contracts they sign with insurance companies. Are you going to call that slavery too?
- Victor Ganata
@Victor, no I call it what it is: charity. Charity should be encouraged. @Brad, when you stop laughing maybe you can refute the right of a physician to contract with a patient without government interference. Until then the only laughable idea is the logical conclusion of your argument that physicians could be imprisoned unless they run their businesses for free or at a loss.
- Crutis
It is impossible to be a physician without government interference, since license to practice is issued by the state. I'm not sure I'd want it otherwise, personally. Anyway, once again we're straying from the topic at hand: there's nothing in HR 3200 that says you have to accept gov't issued insurance, anymore than you have to accept Medicare or Medicaid. It will still be quite possible to have a nice little boutique practice without getting a paycheck from the gov't.
- Victor Ganata
I do medical billing for a nursing home. Those of you who are in favor of a public option obviously don't understand Medicare and Medicaid. We couldn't take care of anybody if we had to rely only on what the government pays. And doctors didn't go to school for all those years and incur all that debt just to be civil servants with tons of red tape and poor compensation. There will be a huge shortage of doctors within a decade. If the bill passes the Senate, we're in for a true disaster.
- Dawn
Are u kidding me? They Gave You the Nobel Peace Prize? Really? Sorry to ask Mr. President, but Do you even know the definition of the word "Peace" sir? Just Look At Your Face In The Mirror And Ask Yourself how often you Really Think About Other People in other Countries? You Can't even Get Your Troops Out Of Iraq and the whole world is wondering whether you guys are just staying there 4...
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- +Holy Killer+
Especially when you know he is responsible for the murder of Hundreds of My innocent Brothers And Sisters… Just Because You're preoccupied with the Oil in Iran And Fear they might make an atomic bomb one of these days and pass it on to Hamas & Hizbollah to use against Israel doesn't give you the right to remain silent. You know what Mr. President? I Don't Believe in your Audacity of...
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- +Holy Killer+
Totally agree with Holy Killer. now that you have won the prize, you can at least start doin somethin to show you deserve it.... and that somethin better be good Sir ;-) you see... the world needs to be reassured...over and over again!
- Miss Self-Abort
Hey Mr. President! I'm not agree with Holly Killer and the others. Now would you grant me a green card for being nice and supportive? :D
- AutoBioFeeder
حاج مهدی سلام . خوبی شما؟ به انگلیسی از اوباما بپرس جریان اختراع دینامیت رو می دونه یا نه :دی
- وانا
آن که نامش بود باراک ، هست بی عرضه و با چاک
- وانا
بچهها ببینم میتونیم یه کاری کنیم که جمیعا از اینجا پرتمون کنن بیرون و بلاک حتی :دی خیلی علاقه دارم از جانب یه سیاستمدار برنده جایزه نوبل بلاک شم حتی :دی
- Miss Self-Abort
Interesting that the vast majority of the discussion in this thread concerning an American president's acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize is in Farsi.
- Itachi
يعني يه سيخ و منقل هم پيدا نميشه! اينا كه كلي ادعا دارن...! شام هم كه ندارن! حالا نگفتيد باراك چه كاره است؟ تو مايكروسافت كار ميكنه؟ اسمش آشناستها...
- hadi kh
that's cause Iranians are a huge majority on the net Mohomed ;-)
- Miss Self-Abort
Mr President when ever you want to answer me just call me and tell my secretary you won Nobel !he will let you go through my private line!
- موسوی phouzhanمیر
Hi Mr President, I am great Iranian political analyst and I want to help you.(One of my works is predicting Iran election that you can find it on my blog). My mother say I one day become a great person and I think that day is come. for more information make comment in my blog. I will contact with you.
- Darieh
I wonder, do people actually think President Obama reads their comments here?
- Stephen Mack
oh sir!i need to have an american greencard..oom..so you know,we are now friends in friend feed..dear barack can you help me? :D
- pope "1st lefthanded"®
میشه دوستام رو هم بیارم؟البته اینا بر میگردن،اما من می مونم،میشل جان خوبن ضمناً؟!بچه هم قد ما هم نداری ازدواج کنیم! می دونی ازدواج یه ارانی تر تبار با یه آمریکایی آفریقایی تبار باعث میشه بچه اینا با هیچ کدوم از این نژاد ها نجنگه!تو فیلم روبان قرمز می گفت به خدا!//جناب مترجم کبابت می کنم اگه سانسور کنی!
- pope "1st lefthanded"®
بعد اینکه من می دونم این پیام منو پخش نمی کنید! اما ما از مدیران آب و فاضلاب شهرستان هردنبیل آباد می خوایم به آب و فاضلاب اینجا رسیدگی کنن،آسفالت هم نداریم،من هم ی کارم!
- pope "1st lefthanded"®
تجمع اعتراضآمیز به همدستی رژیم اشغالگر نروژ با استکبار جهانی فردا 10 صبح از روبهروی منزل آقای شریعتمداری به سمت دفتر کیهان برگزار میشود
- Darth Farhad Sama
دوستان کارمون تمومه فید اوباما رو خراب می کنید فردا بهمون حمله می کنه اون موقع باید احمدی نژادی بشیم :دی
- Lord hozeh
Don't be shy, step up and support your leader.
- Joe
the majority of Iranians hate A.N. and that's why we don't think President Obama deserved this noble cause he closed his eyes to all recent incidents in here
- Darth Farhad Sama
We didn't close our eyes to anything - only Iranians can change their government - not us.
- Joe
ای ملت رئیس جمهور ندیده :)))) بابا اکانت توییترش را کسی اضافه کرده به فرندفید حالا ملتی به شما می خندند که اینها چقدر جدی گرفته اند
- farzaam
then stop negotiating with our criminal government!
- Darth Farhad Sama
فرهاد جون عالیه...بحثو به جای منم ادامه بده
- blind_owl
Stop complaining and continue to attempt make a change in your own country.
- Joe
@فرزام: چقدرم ملت جدی گرفتن!!! بابا دهن فید رو سرویس کردیم با این مدل کامنت ها!
- علی آقا
Stop looking around for someone else to do what your society needs to do on its own.
- Joe
We're already doing that Joe, risking our lives going to streets and protest in every available event! what else do you expect? start an open war with 100000 fully armed IRGC military force with near 2.500.000 Basiji militia?!
- Darth Farhad Sama
u r in the road that carter was before
- Liquid Soul
Hey joe what's wrong with you? Hah?
- Mr.Chocolate
Thank you PEOPLE of America! but we're not talking about people ! it's your President who is now helping A.N boasting about major political victories and helping our government divert the point of attention away from the Crisis at hand
- Darth Farhad Sama
You are talking about the person we elected to represent us.
- Joe
OK. Obama is so much better that Bush... but the question is: does he really deserve the noble prize?
- علی آقا
The question is : does he deserve all the disrespect people have shown him on this thread?
- Joe
so do we of ours for Mousavi and Karoubi! it's our lives at stake here and your elected president started a peace talk with a criminal and illegitimate dictatorship government!
- Darth Farhad Sama
Obama did nothing to bring the peace to the world? He just talked about the peace... but what happened? are the U.S Troops out of Iraq and Afghanestan now?
- علی آقا
دمت گرم مستر شکلات عزیز...داری با طرف بحث میکنی که نوبل حق کروبی بود:)))
- blind_owl
اي بابا... ولي خودمونيمها، اين جايزه نوبل مسخره تر از اين حرفا شده! حتي حيفه كه به يكي مثل كروبي اين جايزه رو بدن! همين كه به يكي مثل اوباماي تازه كار دادن، خودش حسّابي اين جايزه رو خز كرده!
- hadi kh
یا االله ... یا الله . خانوما چارقدشون رو سر کنن ، حاج آقا جنت مکان اومدن واسه سخنرانی
- وانا
خداييش ديگه اين يارو مترجه "چارقدر" رو نميتونه ترجمه كنه! =))))
- hadi kh
DrHussein you Arzeshi bros are always amazing! although I support Palestine too it doesn't mean you have to kill someone to support another! stop with your 30 years of nonexistence enemy of IRI already!
- Darth Farhad Sama
جناب هادی خ @ دست کم نگیرید این ملت جاسوس را . اینا حتی میدونن برو خونتون کنایه از چیست . مثل ما نیستند که برای علافی فرفرگردی کنند
- راحیل
اوباما جایزه صلح نوبل میگیرد، دقیقا بعد از اینکه تصویب میکنند نیروهای آمریکایی فعلا در عراق و افغانستان بمانند :) / چه جايزهي مسخرهاي، چه جايزهگيرندهي مسخرهتري!
- hadi kh
فحش ناموس هم می شه داد؟ سلام منو به دختر خانوم کلینتون برسونید
- مرحوم محمدمسيح
آلفرد نوبل زمانی که برادرش لودویگ فوت شد، روزنامهها اشتباهاً فکر کردند که نوبل معروف (مخترع دینامیت) مرده است. آلفرد وقتی صبح روزنامه ها را میخواند با دیدن آگهی صفحه اول، میخکوب شد: "آلفرد نوبل، دلال مرگ و مخترع مرگ آور ترین سلاح بشری مرد!" آلفرد، خیلی ناراحت شد. با خود فکر کرد: آیا خوب است که من را پس از مرگ این گونه بشناسند؟ سریع وصیت نامهاش را آورد. جملههای بسیاری را خط زد و...
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- hadi kh
It's funny how an Iranian is counting himself among the Americans and referring to them as us....
- Miss Self-Abort
But I also know that this prize reflects the kind of world that those men and women, and all Americans, want to build -- a world that gives life to the promise of our founding documents. And I know that throughout history, the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes. And that is why I will accept this award as a call to action -- a call for all nations to confront the common challenges of the 21st century.
- Buddy press
آخه این چه رفتار زشتی بود که با جو داشتین آخه .می خواستم جورش کنم بیاد منو بگیره که دور بعدی بتونم به میس تر پیس -اسپلش:پی آی دابل اس - رای بدم.. نامردا خدا ازتون نگذره!
- Mahsa
ما بازم دیر رسیدم ولی دریافت جایزه نوبل رو به جناب اوباما تبریک عرض میکنم و البته من هم با آقای متکی موافقم! دریافت این جایزه برای آقای اوباما زود بود و بهتر این بود که این جایزه رو به احمدی نژاد می دادن به پاس جنایات و فجایع قبل و بعد انتخابات
- Mohammad Mirzaie
I just like this writing but i do not understand what they mean! cool but atleast i can read and understand f.ahmadinejad, which is funny. hey! visit my site http://www.vinonagroup.com
- VinonaGroupServicesUSA
آقا مبارکه Congratulation Sir فقط but لطفا pls حمایت کن از دموکراسی support democrasi :D:D
- Jan Valjan
Nobel Peace Prize to President Obama - good. Now the goals --- 1. stop Iraq devastating costly colonial occupation war. --- 2. stop Afghanistan occupation war. --- 3. Cut US military budget of $1 trillion to $300 billion a year. http://costofwar.com. China military budget is $60 bill a year .. China has a surplus of $2 trillion, US, by wild capitalism de-investing and industries...
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- Petr Buben
I'll tell you more after work today but it's basically back to where I started and back to where I want to be. Really, really happy!! EDIT: This is the job: http://ff.im/8tFtu. EDIT 2: This is the company I'll be working for: http://ff.im/8tN7W
- Kol Tregaskes
That sounds like an awesome job. Congratulations!
- Mohsein Sani
congrats... I've had a new job forced upon me too. Carer of 2 little 7 week old kittens >.< no chance of me being able to work for a month!
- alphaxion
This will be the first time I've left a job. I've never resigned, never left a contract at mid-point, I've always stayed to the end or until I've been made redundant.
- Kol Tregaskes
"Leaving aside socioeconomic issues that prevent many parts of the world from having access to computers, mobile phones, or broadband, the panacea of an always-connected populace to access with all content, regardless of location, computer or Web browser, is still very far away. Thanks to overzealous individual governments or convoluted legalities that often involve copyright, the Web you see is likely far different from that enjoyed by the country bordering yours. Even in my short visit to the UK this week, I was annoyed to find that some of my data was blocked thanks to my newfound geography."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
Yep. And it will get worse. And then, hopefully, better.
- WorldofHiglet
Finally, people in the States can understand what I've been crowing about (from Canada) for the last 9 years.
- cecily
Cecily, they may have understood before, but I got the chance to go through it myself and make screenshots. :)
- Louis Gray
They are blocking content in UK? That is interesting.
- TrafficBug
Hulu has been blocking content outside of US for a long time
- winckel
What is the reason for Hulu preventing their streams from going beyond the states?
- James Kuypers
Probably similar reasons as the hot new music-sharing site in the UK not being available in the States. (I can't recall the name, I'm in the States).
- motownmutt
These limitations are probably because of licencing issues. Region based licences suck! Even in Europe not all content is licensed for every country. A lot of music is NOT downloadable in the Netherlands, but if you go to the UK version of the same site, you can find it. The entertainment industry should stop with the region based license model from last century.
- Daan
Its not just greedy big media companies though - wikipedia content for example is very US/UK centric. Look up say a dog breed and you will see when it was introduced in the US and nothing about other countries...
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
wikipedia has too many power-crazed editors that discourage people from contributing. That's unfortunate too.
- Thomas Hawk
When I learned I couldn't use Spotify from the US I was indignant. Aren't I entitled to use everything on web? I imagine that's how others feel. Then I went and searched for a proxy service.
- Todd Hoff
The reason for Hulu's licenses is also the reason for DVD region coding.
- Andrew C
Flickr censors out all moderate and restricted content to German users. It's kind of ironic that Germans who use Flickr aren't allowed to see boobs even if they specifically request to be able to see adult content and verify that they are adults, while they show boobs on TV commercials in Germany. I have a photo of a *painting* by Mel Ramos from an all ages museum in Oakland that people in Germany aren't allowed to see. That's just stoopid.
- Thomas Hawk
The music industry will never die. You have to have music, it is a part of our lives that personally I could not live without.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
So, will they be asking this of other sites like Amazon that allows previews before playing?
- JA Castillo
If they are going after Apple I imagine they would go after everyone. But, if they win then you won't be able to have a preview anymore because you will have to either pay for the preview or pay extra for the download. Previews will just die then.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
What idiots. If you can't hear the preview, you might not be tempted to buy the track at all.
- Spidra Webster
Myrna, she certainly knows how to make a cake look aesthetically pleasing to the eye! :) As for these being added to list, baby ... consider it done!! ;p <333
- Emma
I like that cakes like a basic frosted chocolate cake and the strawberry cream cake were included, because those are awesome cakes that just about anyone can do. You don't have to be an expert decorator to make those look scrumptious. Not that I don't appreciate the others - I do - but it's good to see beauty that is accessible.
- Katy S
YES! and they look like they'll be just as fun to make as they will be to eat! ;-p <333
- Live4Emma (L4S)
OMG... I'm at a loss for words!! Your revenge is deadly! ;p
- Brandon
It popped in the morning when I was hungry at work. Now I'm going to bed and it's here again!!! AAAAAHH! :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Sorry Sasha, but I am renowned for being torturous with food posts!! :)
- Emma
Hi Brandon ~ and believe me, revenge is just SO very sweet! ;)))
- Emma
Is this Airship Ventures in the Bay Area? I do want to do this.
- Andy Bakun
Just landed, it was amazing!! Yes this is Airship Ventures. The largest zeppelin of only 3 that exist in the world. We went out of Oakland and around SF and the bridges.
- Rachel Lea Fox
from iPhone
Plus Trapster works in Virginia and DC. . . legally.
- Dave Roth
I'm loading it right now. The map for my local area is very accurate. I can't wait to see what it can do on the road. Thanks for the tip Robert:)
- Michael Fidler
Trapster is a great idea, but I found it to be highly inaccurate.
- Otto
from iPhone
My Trapster was going off over Labor Day Weekend - and the alert can be startling, at first! (It's a siren). I've found the freshly reported alerts the most accurate.
- Kurt Starnes
Cool. Nice to know there's a webOS version coming
- Rodfather
love the idea, been thinking of similar thing like alerting the phone owners off the police parties/speed traps ahead, its an application i was thinking of a messaging system. whenever a motorist approaches the speed trap or traffic cops could be alerted via a flash message, and i wanted it to work on all GSM phones, a user could report the traffic cops to a number which would then alert the motorists going in that direction, it would require the use of a lot of hardware but it was just an idea
- testbeta
Thanks Pete for the service and thanks Scoble for letting us know
- testbeta
Or you could just, you know, drive at the speed limit?
- Bryce Roney
from IM
I wonder how the info is provided. If it comes from the police, I am not sure they would divulge the true locations.
- Brent - Loving Life
Have to say, agree with @Bryce You could always do the safe and responsible thing and drive safely in the first place. From someone who got 'done' 3 times as a kid, I now stick closely to the limits. Less stressful as a whole.
- ImJustCreative
from twhirl
Why as adults are you condoning the use of information that makes us act recklessly? Not the best bit of social media influence and advice I have seen.
- ImJustCreative
from twhirl
@imjustcreative @bryce Yep agree would be really nice to hear about the guy that killed someone while checking his anti-radar iphone app <sarcasm
- roger byrne
Pha, old hat. This stuff has been available to Sat Nav users forever. I have this on TomTom on my Palm LifeDrive, it's a simple database of camera locations with GPS coordinates. Move along, nothing to see here.
- Gilbert Harding
gilbert: it is now at a wide level, and Roger: this application speaks so no need to look at the screen
- testbeta
@gilbert Oh thats sooo much better now, now its only some ppl getting killed because of ppl playing the system <real big sarcasm
- roger byrne
Here's' a thought for you Roger. There have been some serious accidents in the UK because of people suddenly slowing down when they see a speed camera up ahead. Causing the vehicle behind to ram into them. Now you could blame both, or just the guy behind for not paying attention or going a bit too quick. But if both of them had some advance warning of the camera, I leave you to...
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- Gilbert Harding
Gilbert your trying to justify something that promotes illegal activities either way you cut it. If the people weren't speeding they wouldn't have to slow down for speed cameras...so in the end its the speed thats killing not cameras or radars!
- roger byrne
Roger: it is just to avoid those traffic checkpoints, nobody wants to be handed a ticket for whatever reason it is, these things help it makes people extra cautious and i would praise the guy(pete) behind it
- testbeta
Roger The official line on the purpose of the cameras is to slow traffic to the posted speed limit. Therefore they do the job and would continue to do so if every driver knew their locations. All that would change is the revenue stream from the cameras.
- Gilbert Harding
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- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
I am FOR this, 100%. Nothing really matters. Anyone can see. Nothing really matters...to me. Ergo, if it's shiny, I'm for it. More fun that way. Y'all can drive 600 miles an hour and burn for all I care. Or not. Point is, all of you law-abiding do-gooders are only protecting an extortion-based government revenue stream system.
- Will Conley
where can I get in the beta for the Palm Pre version of Trapster?
- Matt Kurio
@will good point. More folks would drive the speed limit if cops pulled you over to give you a fistful of cash.
- barce
from iPhone
He took time to hang them as you wanted, my God!
- Phil Jeudy
"When I was in Amsterdam I saw a guy peeing into one of these. They are in the middle of the road, and the guy just stands there, with the whole world seeing him, unzips his pants and pees into that hole. There’s no walls or privacy. It’s just like one giant pee cone. So weird."
- Nik
from Bookmarklet
"At an airport I overheard a father and daughter in their last moments together. They had announced her plane’s departure and standing near the door, he said to his daughter, “I love you, I wish you enough.”She said, “Daddy, our life together has been more than enough. Your love is all I ever needed. I wish you enough, too, Daddy.” They kissed good-bye and she left.He walked over toward the window where I was seated. Standing there I could see he wanted and needed to cry. I tried not to intrude on his privacy, but he welcomed me in by asking, “Did you ever say good-bye to someone knowing it would be forever?” “Yes, I have,” I replied."
- Anna Haro
from Bookmarklet
“Forgive me for asking, but why is this a forever good-bye?” I asked. “I am old and she lives much too far away. I have challenges ahead and the reality is, her next trip back will be for my funeral, ” he said. “When you were saying good-bye I heard you say, ‘I wish you enough.’ May I ask what that means?” He began to smile. “That’s a wish that has been handed down from other...
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- Anna Haro
“When we said ‘I wish you enough,’ we were wanting the other person to have a life filled with enough good things to sustain them,” he continued and then turning toward me he shared the following as if he were reciting it from memory. “I wish you enough sun to keep your attitude bright. I wish you enough rain to appreciate the sun more. I wish you enough happiness to keep your spirit...
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- Anna Haro
Right bank entrance to the Sint-Anna pedestrian tunnel underneath the river Scheldt in Antwerp, built between 1931 and 1933.
- Irma Vermaat
from Bookmarklet
Seriously, though, is the phrase "Please do follow the below check list" idiomatic in English in New Zealand?
- Victor Ganata
"Please do x" makes sense to me, Victor. Not idiomatic, although maybe a touch clumsy.
- Stephen Mack
I think because we would say 'Please do the following." It's the same, her's is just seems more stilted.
- Admiral Anika
Yeah, stylistically, I wouldn't choose "Please do follow" myself, although it is perfectly grammatical. But I was looking more at "the below check list"
- Victor Ganata
Vicki Walker, who was a financial controller with ProCare Health, has been awarded $17,000 for unfair dismissal, and plans to lodge an appeal for further compensation.
- Mary
The boss was way oversensitive in my opinion. In type, all caps are interpreted as shouting. I'd probably just ask her to lay off the caps lock key. (I occasionally use all caps in homage to the late Sam Kinison. ;)
- Dennis Jernberg
What a shame, and how asinine. Reading comprehension is lacking in general, so I think she was just trying to cope.
- Rick Cogley
Y'know, sometimes people just don't read emails well enough. Bold red and capitals certainly gets your attention when things are important.
- Charlotte M