Hmm, let's see...do I want the cliffhanger downer ending movie that isn't self contained, or the one where Luke and the rebels completely kick the empire's ass and has the cute little Ewoks? Tough decision? I think not. Ewoks win every time. Take that Darth Vader and your "I am your father" plot twist.
- Alex Scoble
According to my Star Wars fanatic son, Return of the Jedi was the best of the second trilogy.
- Elena
Alex- Empire has: Han Solo in Carbonite; Yoda's 1st appearance; HOTH!; and the BEST cliffhanger to a movie after Back to the Future II. LOL
- Carlton Hackett
Return has: An actual ENDING; The emperor's glorious death at the hands of Darth Vader; Jabba the Hutt getting choked and then blasted to smithereens; Boba Fett getting his just desserts; Ewoks going all Vietnam on the Empire; Chewie taking over AT-ST; That incredible chase scene on the bikey things through the forest of Endor (first use of steadycam in a feature film ever)...I could go on and on. What does Empire have? A lot of unresolved crap. Score 100 Jedi: 0 Empire
- Alex Scoble
Ok..true, Return has the super badass battle of Endor...but, but...Empire has Han Solo in Carbonite!! And the best Lightsaber Battle between Vader and Luke!! Oh..and the fact that Vader tells Luke he's his FATHER! LOL
- Carlton Hackett
The lightsaber battle in Jedi is much better. Score now up to 1000 for Jedi and 0 for Empire.
- Alex Scoble
Empire Strikes Back is the best Star Wars film period.
- Manuel Mas
No, Star Wars is the best Star Wars film...period. Jedi is 2nd with Empire a distant 3rd.
- Alex Scoble
Empire is my #`1 - Empire > all other movies. Period.
- Nathan Chase
The lightsaber battle in Jedi is longer...but it's also less intense. Well...up until Vader threatens to turn Leia, then it gets all Wolverine vs. Sabretooth. LOL
- Carlton Hackett
Nope, Alex is WRONG. First time I saw Star Wars, I was like "enjoyable" (I love it now). Then I saw Empire, and I was like "HOLY CRAP THAT WAS AWESOME." And then I saw Jedi and I was like "cute" (and I still think that). Empire wins for going as dark as possible and THEN ENDING THERE. It's not self-contained, no, but I like that better than the usual franchise ending of "we're stopping at a good point but here's our tag scene in case we get a sequel."
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
No. Jandy is wrong. Jedi is the better movie.
- Alex Scoble
Sorry, but cliffhangers suck. Categorically, ergo Empire sucks. The score is now 2000 to 0 Jedi has beaten the head off the challenger and is now feeding the body of Empire in to a wood chipper. This ain't pretty folks...I've never seen a beating like this.
- Alex Scoble
I'll give you another 1000 pts Alex for free: Return has: Leia in bikini. ;-)
- Carlton Hackett
Carlton: I find your argument compelling :)
- Glenn Slaven
The Hoth scenes are worth 8,177.6 points by my calculations, though. And each Stormtrooper killed by an Ewok carries with it -1,138 points. The robot torture factory scene is worth -3,033 points. This is going to be a tough battle.
- Stephen Mack
Lol... Alex. There is now way you can be a Star Wars fan and say that about Empire. Don't get me wrong, I like ROTJ, but Empire is still better.
- Kevin Whalen
from email
Kevin, no true Scotsman would say that!
- Glenn Slaven
damn, I can't rememeber how RotJ starts, someone remind me
- Glenn Slaven
Starts off with Vader arriving on the DS, then transitions to the Droids arriving at Jabba's palace (where Han is being held).
- Kevin Whalen
from email
Again wrong...Ewoks kicked the Empire's ass, which is why Ewoks kick ass which is why Jedi kicks ass. Kicking ass over not kicking ass kicks ass. Jedi kicks the ass out of Empire.
- Alex Scoble
Plot? There's no plot! It's all just build up for "I am your father"...That whole asteroid turns in to a monster thing? That's not plot. That's a whack ass writer's device to chew up 10 minutes of screen time. Again...good guys ACTUALLY kicking ass kicks the ass of bad guys NOT ACTUALLY kicking ass, but thinking they did. Jedi continues to win. Imagine that!
- Alex Scoble
Empire and RotJ are, in fact, a single movie, with a really long bathroom break. And multiple directors who, mercifully, are not George Lucas.
- The Letter M
I'm exhausted and really should go to bed, but I really want to watch Empire right now. :)
- Kevin Whalen
from email
You've been sniffing paint fumes again, haven't you, Alex? The only way JEDI excelled more than EMPIRE is that it was the end of the story.
- Steven Perez
from IM
You need to go eat some more cilantro, Steven, because you seem to be running low. There are about a thousand ways that Jedi was better than Empire...Empire has no cilantro. Jedi ate it all. Cilantro is better than no cilantro. Jedi wins again.
- Alex Scoble
Poor Alex. He has no idea that JEDI was the beginning of the end for Lucas. It just never got better for the Bearded One. As the original script proves (http://friendfeed.com/silas21...), when you have no one to rein in your worst impulses, bad things happen. Like PHANTOM MENACE.
- Steven Perez
from IM