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David Andrzejewski

SQLCoffee - Property Owner is not available for Database - http://www.sqlcoffee.com/Trouble...

September 18 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

EXEC sp_changedbowner 'sa' - David Andrzejewski

David Andrzejewski

How to change Firefox settings to improve YouTube performance | Sync Blog - http://www.sync-blog.com/sync...

September 2 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

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David Andrzejewski

Managing Your Social Network Addiction - Stepcase Lifehack - http://www.lifehack.org/article...

June 18 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

I can quit any time. - David Andrzejewski

Robert Scoble

We moved the NYC tweetup to Mariott Marquis on eighth floor.

June 17 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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You should have made the location a game. "find me at the tweetup by using social networking tools and your smartphone" :) - jcunwired

Google Latitude anyone? :) - David Andrzejewski

David Andrzejewski

Paris Hilton pursues Mideast 'BFF' - Entertainment News, TV News, Media - Variety - http://www.variety.com/article...

June 3 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

Enough already! - David Andrzejewski

David Andrzejewski

Kernel/Compile - Community Ubuntu Documentation - https://help.ubuntu.com/communi...

May 9 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) - David Andrzejewski

David Andrzejewski

Troubleshooting Windows XP, Tweaks and Fixes for Windows XP - http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_twea...

March 30 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

Shutdown - David Andrzejewski

Steve Rubel

So you want to trust your workflow to the web – good luck with than plan - http://www.inquisitr.com/15368...

January 17, 2009 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

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I should have linked to this before. Great post. - Steve Rubel

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google video sucked, whereas greader is the leading rss reader on the market. - xavier vespa

If it keeps going like this, we might back to where we were, trusting our data and good old Desktop apps - Tejas Patel

My policy is to do my best to back up everything I need if a service was shut down. I don't use Gmail to archive anymore, I save files on my hard drive. I back up my feed list from Reader. I export from Evernote. And I don't keep any important documents on Google Docs. Everything gets backed up to my server at home, and to the cloud (rsync.net). - David Andrzejewski

Robert Scoble

What's my answer to people who believe conspiracy theories? Everything you read on the Internet is true. Heheheh.

January 16, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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The earth faked the moon formation! - Mitch

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Robert Scoble really is a member of the Illuminati! He must be stopped before he Immanentizes the Eschaton! - Internet's Tad

Some people will believe in anything. I want to run away from those people as fast as possible. All they do is waste your time. - Robert Scoble

Telling them that everything on the Internet is true sends them in circles. - Robert Scoble

It's like a computer program that overflows its stack. - Robert Scoble

Totally agreed. - Internet's Tad

If it was on Twitter than it must be true. Anything on FriendFeed, however is up for debate ;-) - Andy Sternberg

I know two people who thought the MacBook Wheel was real... - Dean Clark

Conspiracy nuts already go in circles. Part of being schizophrenic is going in circles. Around and around all the way down the rabbit hole. - Internet's Tad

Half my office thought it was real Dean... - Internet's Tad

Wait, the MacBook Wheel isn't real? I just pre-ordered one from a Nigerian Prince. - Kevin Bondelli

I suspect me and @enroc are the only real people on Twitter. The rest is Robert Scoble and all his aliasses. No. Really. I read that in a newspaper. So that is really true. - Ruud van Wijngaarden

Dean - score! You now know what to get them for their next birthdays :) - Micah Wittman

My tin foil hat keeps Scoble's tweets from entering my brain directly. :) - David Andrzejewski

I pick up Robert Scoble's tweets via the iron fillings in my teeth. - Internet's Tad

See, that's funny, because I have this Facebook friend who has a Twitter follower who has a 3rd cousin who worked as MS who said Scoble was a 3rd gen AI bot. No lie... - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Twitter search is disabled. I'm sure it is Bush's fault. - Dean Clark

@Tina You forgot to mention that the Facebook friend works at a yogurt shop. - MVB (Grinch of FF)

everything you read on the internet is most certainly true, is it not? are you trying to inject a little sarcasm in your answer? - Scott Jarkoff

Tad: 5 tons of flax says Robert is really Hagbard Celine in disguise. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Aluminum pull-tabs STILL buy one minute of dialysis because the costs are set by the man. - Christopher Harley

After getting laid off the first time I quickly started believing conspiracy theories. I blew off all the conspiracy things when I worked there, but it turned out everything we were imagining was true. If we could imagine it, it was probably, and turned out to be true. Since then, even out of the job I'm much more prone to believe, or try to at least understand things people claim to have heard or seen or believe. - Jesse Stay

every one believes in some thing ridiculous, its just that "conspiracy nuts" are brave enough to say their's out loud. - J. Abdul-Qahhar

I believe conspiracy theories are a conspiracy of conspirators! - Kevin Leroux

It's interesting that the Bush 43 administration and neoconservatives have been the foremost purveyors of false and demolished conspiracy theories over the last eight years. Just a few of the delusional assertions: 1. Saddam Hussein and Iraq were behind 9/11 2. Saddam Hussein and Iraq were behind the 9/11 anthrax attacks. 3. Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda were behind the 9/11 anthrax... more... - Sean McBride

@scobelizer so you and "Kindle Gate"??? I've now lost my faith in humanity - sofarsoShawn

Governments around the world spend many billions of dollars each year both to engineer and to uncover real conspiracies -- what line of work do you think that agencies like CIA, MI6, Mossad, ISI, FSB, etc. are in? Smart people take real conspiracies very seriously -- they have a powerful influence on human affairs. Many bogus conspiracy theories are the handiwork of government agencies... more... - Sean McBride

Just like in the movie MIB. All the supermarket tabloid stories are actually true; we've been conditioned to not believe them. - MVB (Grinch of FF)

Apparently everything is true - Snopes was faking all their debunking. http://www.techchuff.com/web-2-0... - cian

Sean: I like your take on things... aligns with my views... I would like to subscribe to your newsletter, but your FriendFeed will probably have to do for now. ;-) - Chris Heath

P2OG (Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group) was of course a mere literary invention. - Sean McBride

Chris -- one of the most interesting and challenging intellectual activities available to thinking human beings is separating out real conspiracies from conspiracy theories, and especially separating hard conspiratorial facts from deliberate conspiratorial disinformation. Conspiracy theories are often the conspiratorial artifacts of real conspiracies. :) That's a concept that's too... more... - Sean McBride

A few real conspiracies (among thousands explored by reputable, mainstream political analysts and historians): Bernard Madoff, Gulf of Tonkin, Iran-Contra, Jonathan Pollard, Watergate. Do you have any doubt that prosecutors are now developing various conspiracy theories about the Madoff operation? This is what they are paid to do; it's their job. But they try to nail down their theories with facts, and let the facts lead their theories. - Sean McBride

Sean: oh i'm with you 100% - Chris Heath

People who get this stuff are not easily bamboozled by official misinformation and disinformation. They keep their criticial and skeptical intelligence intact, which is a very far cry from blindly embracing any conspiracy theory that comes down the pike. Most conspiracy theories are disinformation. Many of the best mainstream historians conduct conspiracy research on a regular basis. Historical research is largely the enterprise of cutting through official lies. - Sean McBride

I wish people would care as much about things that really matter and affect the world. But hey, let's pretend there isn't a bailout we should be bitching about, a economic situation we should be more deeply investigating and a chance for change in our country that we should be rallying for. Caring about the wrong, irrelevant and sometimes silly things is exactly why we lived in a country that is presently a little fucked. - Patricia

And what forces produced the bailout and the current economic crisis? Is there a conspiratorial dimension to the bailout in particular? Certainly its operations have been shrouded in secrecy. Why? Inquiring minds want to know. Where is this money being allocated? Who benefits? Who are the key players controlling the bailout? What are their affiliations and interests? What does their social network look like? - Sean McBride

I now think you are part of the conspiracy to hind the conspiracy!!!! - John D Reasor

the Apollo never landed on the moon - sofarsoShawn

Certain elements of the military-industrial complex used the Iraq War as an opportunity for war profiteering. Conspiracy theory. :) And: certain elements of the military-industrial complex played a key role in engineering the Iraq War. And Dwight Eisenhower, who first raised alarms about the military-industrial complex, was a "conspiracy theorist." - Sean McBride

Wait, what are you hiding? Does that mean everything is not true? <head explodes> - mikepk

Everything I've stated in this thread is disinformation. :) (Actually, it could be.) - Sean McBride

Steve Rubel

Google is shutting down Google Notebook, Video, Dodgeball and Jaiku - http://searchengineland.com/google-...

January 14, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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Wow, interesting. Another Twitter competitor bites the dust. - Andy DeSoto

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bummer. i really like Notebook. - MikeAmundsen

Just in time, as I've just moved all my Google Notebook notes to Evernote. - Rob Haas

Sad about notebook, although I don't know why. I used it for a few hours, said "this is cool, I'll use it all the time," and never used it again. - Gregory Cohen

I am honestly surprised about Jaiku. I thought Google was going to try some thing with it. You can probably assume that leashes are much shorter these days on these sort of ventures. - Rolf Schewe

What?? Notebook is one service that is actually useful. - Morton Fox

Gregory: That's why. :-) - Brent Newhall

Google is doing everything right lately IMO. Shuttering areas where it doesn't hold a core skill and focusing on things that it does well. - AJ Kohn

You always use Evernote instead of Notebook and post to the cloud - Sally Church

@Sally Evernote won't be around in a year or two either, unless they get acquired - Steve Rubel

Dang, I understand the reasons, but I like Notebook :/ - Bec Rowe @d0tski

Gmail is ad supported, clearly invested in and a driver of search. It's sacred. Now how about Google Reader? It doesn't make Google a dime! I wonder what its future is. - Steve Rubel

@Steve, good point - Sally Church

It'll be interesting to see. I'm thinking maybe little AdSense boxes at the bottom of every few articles? Or perhaps a side bar like Gmail? Or... maybe they'll just shut it down :( - David Andrzejewski

I liked Google Notebook. :-( - ursi

It's been a while since I read the gReader privacy policy, but it cold be a *bonanza* of information qualifying its users. You are what you subscribe. - Chris Baskind

hey what about Grand Central?! - Susan Beebe

not notebook! - Yolanda

dammit...I used Notebook as much as I did Reader! What other free alternatives are there? - JA Castillo

@JA Gmail. Check out my nerve center series. - Steve Rubel

The way I read the Google Notebook blog, it is not going to vanish. We can still use it. Google just won't allow new users. Is this the correct interpretation? - Steve Dittmore

@Steve Sounds like it. But why bother living in something that's not loved. - Steve Rubel

Shutting down video? Not nice, there are videos that people link to. - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

So that will be one less option for Surfulator users that don't feel like paying for an upgrade. - April Russo (app103)

it's not shutting down Jaiku though, that will stay around...going open source - Zee.

Steve why do u say that about Evernote? About it not being around in the future? - Zee.

Zee, do you have a reference for that ? I see secondary sources saying things about Jaiku, but can't find anything official. - Michael C. Harris

Ah, Zee is correct re Jaiku, http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2009.... It's not closing. - Michael C. Harris

@Zee, money. - Steve Rubel

Michael, I'm on my iPhone but click the link in this post through to the official google post about Jaiku - Zee.

@Steve Rubel, Evernote just got a good round of funding, and has footholds in a lot more platforms than Google Notebook. I will be surprised if they don't keep growing, especially when people have finally realized their name is a misnomer for what they actually do. - Fa La La La Lindsay

@Lindsay, Evernote will be acquired. That's my bet - Steve Rubel

Evernote also has paying customers. I don't know how many, but I know that I happily paid. - Joey Gibson

I hope they're not, Steve, or if they are, it's not by Google. I would be heartbroken if it languished and died the way almost all the other things I like that they've bought have. @Joey, I paid for my subscription and bought 2 gift subs for people for Christmas gifts... and turned Tad onto getting a paid sub too. They have a pretty loyal following and their services are worth paying for. - Fa La La La Lindsay

Shocking news! I really love Notebook; am using it extensively to prevent information-overload.. - Winston Teo

Jaiku was always doomed without the SMS short code. But I really liked notebook. - Chris Mayer

we haven't got SMS for Twitter here in the UK though Chris...and it's growing ridiculously fast here - Zee.

SMS to Jaiku was working just fine last time I tried. - Michael C. Harris

At least they're going to keep Notebook active ... they're just stopping development. - Brandon

Not Notebook, damnit! What am I supposed to do with my Notebook stuff now? :( - Tanath

And indeed still does work. Perhaps "SMS short code" means something else ? - Michael C. Harris

@Tanath Best I could find was to export to Google Docs. You have to do it for each notebook and it creates a single Gdoc with all of the items in that notebook. - Warren Butler

Notebook was (is?) really good but needed offline access. E.g using Gears. - Warren Butler

didn't think jaiku would last that long. twitter is far superior - Alex Carpenter

I wrote off Jaiku months ago. And after Evernote, Google Notebook paled in comparison. - Phil G

I really like Google Notebook :( - Jennifer Van Grove

Have you tried Evernote, Jennifer? It's really good. - Phil G

Phil, yeah I've tried Evernote...even have the iPhone app...but Google Notebook was a great fit for me...more than a little bummed - Jennifer Van Grove

No big surprises here. Sad to see Jaiku go. It was good having a competitor to Twitter. Keeps the game fun. RIP Jaiku - Sloan Bowman

Looks like Jaiku is going open-source. In which case it might rise to be even bigger than before. And as for Evernote - hey they have a pretty good revenue model. They're here to stay. - Leo Laporte

so my theory that Jaiku has been bought as missing ready-made geo-data (BTS coordinates) for Google Mobile Search seems more or less plausible by now. - A.T.

http://www.jaiku.com/blog... - A.T.

I wonder if they are going to get rid of video for Google Apps users too? I could see getting rid of the public Google Video since it competes with YouTube, but Google Apps video has a different purpose. - Rob Boek

google notebook is awesome! why discontinue that? - Kelly Johns

Notebook seems particularly suited to their mission statement. It ought to be improved, not discontinued. - Tanath

I'm disappointed by the drop kicking of Notebook. You spend the time tagging entries with meta data, then poof, you have to deal with converting it into another system/workflow. I just did "Export to Google Docs" as an escape hatch move, but it's not the tool to gather new clippings entries. - Micah Wittman

Ugh, I have quite a lot of stuff in Notebook. - jjprojects

i was just tryin' to get into it :-) - mirko

I'll miss Google Video - Marcos Marado

Times are hard - Marcus Beagley

Notebook is the big one for me, I use it all the time for particular projects. Anyone suggest an alternative? - Alistair (alpinefolk)

oh bummer, I love Google Notebook. I use it all the time - Imabug

Zoho seems like a good alternative. Still wish Google would keep Notebook though. - Tanath

Robert Scoble

This is my first Windows 7 message. Everything on my main computer upgraded properly. This is a winner.

January 11, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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Windows 7 does sound good. I might give it a go next weekend. - jon

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I installed it on my mac, dont know why though - Simon Wicks

Can you say anything about hardware specs, Robert? I don't know if MS is playing the NDA game with the beta release. - teleken

Have you tried mouse hovering over the task bar in the bottom right (there's a small rectangle with no label) - does a nice 'show desktop' effect. Pretty cool so far eh? - David Ing

Happy too.. so far so good... - Aad 't Hart

I wanted XP rather than Vista, I really did. Now there's some slim hope?! - Bernard (ben) Tremblay

I love Windows 7 on my old hardware! Just posted a review on my blog... :) - carrotmadman6

teleken: if Vista works on it Windows 7 will work better. - Robert Scoble

David: that's cool! - Robert Scoble

Why does Robert get so impressed by every new technology ? - Sidharth Dassani

Robert: Understood. Now the question is whether I drop it in Parallels on the MacBook, or go for broke/masochism and see how the Inspiron Mini handles it. ;) There's the real acid test for a new Windows OS. - teleken

teleken, I have it on Fusion and on my netbook. Both work amazingly well. The only problem with using it on Parallels/Fusion is that you will not get Aero and hence won't get all the nifty Aero-dependent desktop features like Desktop preview, the preview panels etc. - Kamath (नमः)

What are the minimum memory reqs on it? - Jason Wong

Is it a winner because it actually installed correctly, or because you're impressed with the new feature set... - Shay Frendt

Also, try left-clicking on a taskbar item and then dragging upward. - Akiva Moskovitz

Shay: both. - Robert Scoble

Looking forward to the release after posts like this. Read that idle W7 uses appr. 600-650 MB RAM. Anyone confirm those numbers? - Migger

The real killer feature for Windows 7 would be a little dialog box at the beginning of the upgrade process that simply says "If you proceed with this upgrade, you will lose N days of productivity to trying to troubleshoot drivers, software incompatibilities, and reinstallation of incompatible programs; to re-learning simple UI tasks; and to experimenting with superficial cosmetic changes, all for marginal UX and performance gains . Do you want to continue? Yes / No" - Ken Sheppardson

Jason: I don't know what the hardware requirements are but it uses fewer resources than Vista. So, just go with the hardware requirements for Vista. - Robert Scoble

I've had Windows 7 running with just 128mb RAM in a VM - Excellent memory management. - Nigel Kitchen

Tips for VMWare Fusion install http://friendfeed.com/e... - michael silverton

Will Windows 7 fit on an 8GB netbook SSD? - Ken Sheppardson

teleken: My MacBook is running it fine, no problems so far, although I've only really been playing around with settings and stuff, not installed any big software to try with it. I used VM Ware to do it, Parallels always gave me problems so i switched. - Simon Wicks

Since I have both Vista & Ubuntu I think I can wait until all you early adopters work out the bugs. :D Seriously, I will wait until it is forced upon me when I buy another computer. That should be about 3 years from now. - MarkCarras

REALLY tempted to run the beta on my laptop...a bit nervous to run any beta on my main rig but i think it wouldn't be so bad on my laptop....hmmmmmmm - Live4Emma (L4S)

dual booting 7 with vista and 7 is running so much faster than vista. i'm happy that they cut down the min. req. - Aaron Eaton

Stay away from AVG under Windows 7...triggers a heinous BSOD in tdx.sys... - Mike Dove

I have been unable to download the Windows 7 image from Microsoft's site. I think they're a bit overloaded at the moment! - John Bellone

John, have you tried since Saturday? My download worked like a champ Saturday afternoon. Also Brandon LeBlanc @ Microsoft is reporting that extra capacity was added and the download site has been working smoothly since Saturday AM. Also they have removed the 2.5 million limit on the number of beta testers -- as long as you get it before January 24, you can get a product key: http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs... - Karim

Upgraded main computer? will MS support upgrade from Beta to RTM? - Vaibhav

I installed Windows 7 64-bit and Chrome doesn't work at all. GRR. - Phil G

I like the things they have done with respect to perf and UI changes, but this is what Vista should have been in the first place and I hope the upgrade from Vista to 7 is cheaper given the small number of differences between the two. - Vaibhav

Whoops, someone figured out how to fix it: http://www.blogsdna.com/1900... - Phil G

I got it here on my HP Mini 1000. Running good so far... not doing much though - Bwana ☠

Phil, have you run the compatibility wizard on it? - Akiva Moskovitz

@Mike Dove I have 7 x64 with AVG installed. I don't have any problems with it. - Vaibhav

Akiva - nope but that command line switch I just linked to did the trick. - Phil G

@Vaibhav Perhaps you are getting lucky. I believe I was triggering it with the Outlook Email scanner portion of AVG, it may be that for normal operation it is fine. - Mike Dove

Karim, What link did you use? MIcrosoft's site seems so slow. - John Bellone

When attempting to download Windows 7 I click "Download Now" and nothing happens. - John Bellone

Windows Weekly mentioned that there's quite a nasty MP3 truncating bug in the beta. If you value your music collections, it's probably best to avoid using WMP. Apparently there's a hot fix available. - Paul Grav

@Paul it was the first thing I did after installing Win7 and Windows Media Player is working just fine with no damage to the mp3's that I have been able to tell yet - Steven Hodson

@Paul same here. It works fine after hotfix - Vaibhav

Awesome news.... I hope MS Windows 7 is a winner...that would be great! - Susan Beebe

Yep, Windows 7 went pretty smooth so far; tackling my main home/Windows Media Center device now. +1 for sex life as well. - Wade Dorrell

Whats the timeline before it expires on you? how painless was the upgrade? - Stephen Smyth

Stephen: I think it's expires in August - Vaibhav

I wrote about my initial install experience on The Inquisitr (http://www.inquisitr.com/14951...) with some follow Snapshot posts at WinExtra .. I'm liking this release of Windows - Steven Hodson

Stephen, it expires in August which means a Beta 2 or RC1 in July (or a hotfix to extend the death date). - Akiva Moskovitz

Been running Windows 7 for about a week. Loving it! - David Andrzejewski

A friend just loaded Win7, she is upset that she can't find a way to make it Classic UI. It will be a long long time before I upgrade in that case. - Tina Clarke

I've heard someone saying he was expecting something new in Windows 7 and literally got the same Vista OS, just a little faster. Don't you think Microsoft is re-selling the same system (only a bit improved) instead of giving us a new one? - Nir Ben Yona

I think I'll be waiting for the BETA-tag to go away. I have tried vista and xp in beta and I regret it, so..this time I'll wait for the FULL and not beta version of Windows 7. - Qbat

In case anyone cares, I threw Windows 7 on a late 2006 Compaq V6600 laptop with a Turion 1.8GHZ processor. This was one of those Vista capable machines. It was running XP (it never had Vista on it) and Windows 7 runs better than XP did. It has 2GB RAM. It's not a low powered laptop nor is the CPU/chipset that old but it's nice to see Windows 7 run so smoothly on it. Windows 7 installed... more... - Dr. Apps from twhirl

John - if you are using the technet download link (the one with the serial number) , it will try to invoke a downloader app which only works in IE. If you find one of the many blogs with the direct download link, those should work with any browser. - Phil G

Previously as a test, I upgrade installed the Windows 7 6801 beta on a Vista 32 machine that was heavily used (over 1400 installed applications) and was shocked to see it that not only did everything still work (Zonealarm, LogMeIn, MICROSOFT FINGERPRINT READER!), but it was MUCH snappier and startup and shutdown was significantly better. Not that I would ever recommend an upgrade... more... - Dr. Apps from twhirl

Great to hear the upgrade worked. I hate when computers fail... - Mitchell Tsai

Failed to mention that the upgrade install on the Vista 32 box w/ 1400+ apps took at least 3 hours. I can't remember exactly how long. But it took forever, which was expected... - Dr. Apps from twhirl

Like it so far. Install was a bit difficult, but thats probably my fault (dual boot machine). Snappier than Vista, cleaner than Vista. Uses about 20% less RAM on my machine. - Chad Albert

Dr Apps mine took hours too. I ran it while I slept. - Robert Scoble

Just tried streaming h.264 video to a xbox as an extender. It works !! - Olivier Castets

Fresh install took me < 30mins to login prompt. Upgrades take a lot longer. - Chris Johnson

Clean install to Lenovo 510 went very smooth. Loading some apps shortly, but first impression is that it is noticeably snappy. http://www.flickr.com/photos... - George Rogers

John, I am using the regular Technet link: http://bit.ly/NJJb If you're seeing "Download Now" I assume you have gotten past the Live ID logon, profile update and gotten your Product key? The download uses an ActiveX control or Java applet download manager. Assuming you are on Windows :-) try your download in IE, and allow the ActiveX control to install. - Karim

I have Windows 7 beta running on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Processor 4000+ with 2 Gig of Ram and it runs better then Vista Home Premium did. The only issue is I can not get my Netgear SC101 NAS box to recognize. Does anyone have any ideas? - Rob Cairns

"windows", "winner" - is this an example of #15, say something outrageous ;-) - Neil Saunders

Peter Simard: That's awesome! I'm sure you backed up first, but were quite relieved it all went well. :) Rob Cairns: I didn't even know the SC101 worked with Vista in the first place... I gave up on that thing so long ago. That is probably the only piece of hardware I've ever regretted buying. Though it sounds like you've had a good experience with it if you're still using it. I'd say wait a few days and see if anybody comes up with a solution. I took a cursory glance and didn't find any info... - Dr. Apps from twhirl

Robert - Using it since late yesterday. On two boxes, more stable than the original final releases of Windows NT and/or Windows 2000. More drivers supported up front than in Vista. Think MS learned something and the download limit drop will bring a lot of embedded techies. It's a win. - Charlie Anzman

Thanks for being on the bleeding edge, just about to load the Windows 7 beta myself.. Good to know it upgraded properly for you. - TechMama Beth Blecherman

I'm going to download it tonight Can't wait! - Michael Fidler

It was a long upgrade for me... but overall I like it. - Jason Womick

Been very happy with Windows 7 so far. Many subtle improvements add up to a much better product than Vista. - Jim Bednarz

I am happy with Windows 7. Fresh install was effortless, but after the install and adding all possible board drivers, four "System Interrupts" entries remain yellow. At least the LAN connectors worked immediately. - Robert Miller

I put win7 on a Toshiba Satellite a65 from 2003 and it works better than xp did - Todd Loren Sinclair

Stephen : The upgrade was painless 90 minutes or so and a couple of reboots later. The only issue I had as previously mentioned was my Netgear Sc 101 issue - it did work on Vista. It expires in August - Rob Cairns

Steve Rubel

What is it About TweetDeck, Web 2.0's Bloomberg Terminal? - http://www.micropersuasion.com/2009...

January 11, 2009 from Micro Persuasion - Comment - Like - Share

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There's got to be a better way to organize twitter. - David Andrzejewski

Robert Scoble

Cut, copy, paste on Palm Pre

January 8, 2009 from email - Comment - Like - Share

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Just one of the reasons I want one. - Robert Scoble from email

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Amen to that. - Nicholas Kreidberg

Awesome...amazing we all think it's so great yet it should be a fundamental feature in every smartphone. - Jonathan Brown

does it feel good in the hand? - Jay

<whisper> My G1 has been doing this since I first turned it on </whisper> - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Maybe this will finally get Apple to raise the priority on this feature ... - Patrick Jordan

I strongly suspect next iPhone release will have it. But my phone has it now, so I got that going for me, which is nice. - Wade Dorrell

After watching someone from work try 3 times to enter our 64-char-long wifi passwd on an iPhone, lack of copy/paste seems like a security hole, since it encourages you to use short passwds. - Richard ¿digame? Walker

@Richard haha.. you are so damn right about that statement :P - Qbat

Well, just like in my iPhone... oh wait. - Sebastian

I really love my iPhone. While I'm not above switching to something superior, I would be satisfied if they just up the ante for Apple as suggested by @Patrick and compel them to deliver some much-needed functionality. I would like it to be a bit more open too. - Devon Campbell

Apple needs to get copy/paste on the iPhone - Kevin Whalen

As badly as copy&paste, iPhone needs better, slicker ways to switch between apps and organize and work with home screens - hopefully Palm may sort of embarass Apple into some greater efforts ... - Patrick Jordan

It's going to be interesting to see if apple has a better solution up their sleeves. Or perhaps it will just melt away with inter-app integration such as URLs and data detectors. - Robin Barooah

hahahahha - Mona Nomura

DO EET ALREADY, APPLE - Live4Emma (L4S)

Woot! Palm! :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker

Way to go Palm! Competition raise all boats. - Clarence Chiang

I won't believe it until I see that its better then my old palm pilot. - Colide81 (James)

Isn't that lovely..? :) - Daynah

Apple: I don't care if you have to PR spin this and make it look like you just added the most innovative feature ever on the iPhone, JUST ADD IT. - Brad Butner

Great product IF ONLY it is priced right and works with my Mac. - Rom Feria

heard anything on pricing? - Yolanda

Quick question on the iPhone... So they update it tomorrow with Cut & Paste... What do we complain about then? - Johnny Worthington

Inability to multi-task, push, and its stupid stupid cables! - Mona Nomura

@Johnny - lack of video recording, nothing in the way of organizing our ever-growing numbers of apps and our home screens, lack of some sort of launcher app ... - Patrick Jordan

oooh cut & paste! what about a legit Qik app or the MMS function? - Courtney Engle

Cool... I would like to be able to drag and rearrange my home screen icons via my computer - Johnny Worthington

There is no need for MMS - I can email. Qik, I am waiting for. And truth be told, lack of copy and paste doesn't bug me. I just want PUSH. - Mona Nomura

the need for MMS is more about friends sending me messages and having to log in to at&t website to see them. more on the receiving than the submitting end - Courtney Engle

@Johnny - yeah, something like that, or that plus better way to do things on the iPhone in this area too - wiggly icons were cute when we first saw them, but with 5,6,7 etc. screens of apps, they suck - you get one fave onto a page you want and the knock-on effect is clumsy / knocks others off were you want them ... - Patrick Jordan

Do you really think people will ditch the Iphone and change carriers for this thing? - David

That keyboard sure seems tiny. But not really compared to the portrait mode iPhone keyboard. - Ari Braginsky

Palm is turning japanese, finally. - Greg

Excellent. Copy and paste just like Windows Mobile has been doing for longer than the iPhone existence, and I think that includes secret existence. I wonder if copy/paste was even possible in 2000 on the first widely available Palm-based phone, the Kyocera QCP6035. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

What does that mean, Greg? - Mona Nomura

So people want copy/paste more than native apps? - Bwana ☠

No way, Bwana; I want EVERYTHING more than a few things! - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Dare to effing dream....Has Apple ever given a reason that makes sense about why cut/paste is not available on the iPhone? Is this like the second mouse button, where it take 10 years to convince them it's a mission-critical feature? - Matthew DeVries

I don't need MMS, but I do need the ability to receive MMS. What happens when my business contacts MMS me something on an iPhone? My plan is up in february and I need to decide soon between G1 and iPhone. - Matthew DeVries

Personally, I've never used copy/paste on a mobile device. - Bwana ☠

I don't need copy and paste because the iPhone enables me to do everything I needed copy and paste for. (used it a lot on the Curve). MMS? Who needs that when most people have email... :( - Mona Nomura

where's the app market / store - Bob Sonin

Mona: Email is find for sending, but it's a given that everyone expects you to be able to receive MMS. As long as either 1.) the MMS sender is told that I can't get that type of message, or 2.) the MMS gets emailed to me when they use my PHONE number, fine I'll live without it. If you have a job where MMS's are flying around all day, you can't go to your bosses and coworkers and tell them that they can MMS everyone else in the company, but me, they gotta log on and email. - Matthew DeVries

Bwana: I never used a cup holder in a car either before my parents got a 1986 Colt Vista o.O - Matthew DeVries

So is a cup holder "mission critical"? - Bwana ☠

I wouldn't buy a car without one. Unless I it was a Mint 66 Mustang, but no one's allowed to drink in that. - Matthew DeVries

I'm buying stock...Don't tell Alex though, or he'll whine about it. - Geoff Schultz

Ok Matthew....you win.... cup holders don't mean a thing to me. - Bwana ☠

Wow, MMS is used for business? I had no idea, since I've always been in email environments. Now I see where you are coming from. Thank you for taking the time to explain. :) - Mona Nomura

Bwana: I don't think you can win the internet ;) , and I wasn't taking the piss out of you. It's just a feature I find important, There's a bunch of things I'm like that on. Got a touch of OCD. Oh, and your Patrick Norton impressions rock. - Matthew DeVries

Mona: Sorry if I came of overly aggressive there. I'm still stuck in kind of a Web 1.0 vein where everything erupts into a flame war and it's a sprint to get your point across before the thread turns to spam, porn, hitler, or gets deleted. - Matthew DeVries

If the multi-tasking works, I think this thing will be a giant step in the right direction. It's a pain point on smart phones. Just about all of them stink with multi-tasking. Matthew, I don't even try to impersonate him, it's just my normal voice :) - Bwana ☠

hahahhahah no worries! FriendFeed is one of the few places different ideas are exchanged amicably, and this is definitely not the place where threads turn to spam, porn, hitler, or into the Dark Space. Though a picture of spam+porn+Hitler+bacon combination is known to show up... in LOL cat form. ;) - Mona Nomura

Do you really think this could finally deserve the name, I PHONE Killer? - RALPH

Competition - perhaps. Killer? No. (at this time) - Mona Nomura

I guess it's more accurate to say you impersonate his cadence from time to time. - Matthew DeVries

Does the iPhone need killing? I prefer iPhone challenger. If the iPhone is dead, then there's no need for the killer to innovate, and I'm never going to get my damn flying car. - Matthew DeVries

With that type of logic, one cannot disagree. One can say further Matthew that inspiration for the PRE came from Apple in the first place. - RALPH

I agree Mon N... let me change the terminology.. Lets talk about it finally that we have competition. - RALPH

Haven't we established that labeling anything an X-killer is destined to actually kill the thing that is labeled? Think of the halls of recent tech history strewn with the corpses of so-called "iPod-killers" - Victor Ganata

I *love* copy-paste in my Sony Ericsson W830i - Toni @ NavinoT

I've got copy/paste on my nokia 6130. woohoo! - Jason Shultz from twhirl

I for one applaud Apple for showing strong character and not adding this obvious, relatively easy-to-implement, immensely useful feature despite popular demand by loyal fans. - Yaniv Golan

@Yaniv it's for your own good. You really didn't need it, otherwise it would have been there from the begining. - Jason Shultz from twhirl

on SE P1i too and a list of most used term - Raphaelo Casanova from twhirl

You've been able to do this on Nokia's for years. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

can you drag highlight? That's something I really wish the iphone had. - alphaxion

Scoble, every smart phone has had copy and paste EXCEPT for iPhone. - David Andrzejewski

Robert Scoble

If you had $3,000 in your pocket, which would you buy? Canon 5D MKII or Apple 17-inch MacBookPro. Discuss here:

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We are arguing about that on the CES bus. Geeks! - Robert Scoble

Canon 5D MKII hands down. - Andrew Hyde

pro for sho - Bradley Will

Canon camera. I need a great camera more than a Mac - Keith - @tsudo

5d Mk II - Scott Loftesness

5D MKII, since I've already got a Mac Pro. ;) - Cory OBrien

Have a Nikon D300 and my old MBP is on the fritz, so this woud be a slam dunk for me - Gregg Gallagher

17 inch MBP because I love it. Then I'd buy a cheap 40D. I get more use out of a laptop than I do a camera. - Michael Yurechko

Apple 17-inch MacBookPro with a matte screen. - Arturo Puente

People who get a good cannon keep them forever, I go through a macbook every few years - Michael Struening

Macbook Pro. Only because I'm a Nikon fan. D300 is definitely my choice of camera ;) - Tamar Weinberg

mac - David Banes from IM

Mac - Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)

Would have to be the MacBookPro - Jason Townsend

The Canon. A solid peice of hardware and I'm after a camera - Mo Kargas

5D MKII of course. - Jeremy Franklin

The Canon. I'd have so much more fun with a zippy camera than a Big Mac. - Mike Neumann

Probably the computer. I'm happy with the first gen 5D I'm about to buy and as awesome as the camera is, the MBP doesn't need another $5K in lenses. - Derrick

Neither, you need at least twice that for glass & equipment to get the "rig" you should want for a Canon MKII - sorry, 3K isn't enough for that toy; and spending 3K on disposable technology (Mac equipment) isn't a wise investment. - Enrique Gutierrez

MBP....i miss my macs! - Brian Bufalo

5D MKII hands down. I can hold onto the memory cards until I get to a desktop :) - Austin

Without question: 5D mark II - Rodney L.

MBP - it's a means of production for me, once i make some extra cash with it I can always buy the 5D ;-) - Warren

which are you going to get more utility from? I'm guessing the Canon. - Peter Warnock

I already have a 5D MKII but I would take another one in a heartbeat, or a couple of nice L glass - Bill Pennington

5D Mark II..... no doubt. - Albert K

Canon, without a doubt. - Brad Butner

Definitely the MacBook Pro...but then again I'm not a photographer. - Charlie Flowers

Canon - Tyler (Chacha) from IM

Neither, I'd use it to buy food for a year. - Will Higgins™

Considering I can make quicker cash with my Photography work I would say the Canon 5D MKII and then I would buy the Apple 17 inch MacBook Pro with some of my earnings! - Patrick Greer

5D Mark II. And then throw the remaining towards some new glass. - Andy Hannon

2k into the bank, 1k for computer upgrades and other stuff. - Grant Bierman

5D Mk II everytime ... unless I don't have a Mac at that particular time ... - Stephen Taylor

I would go for the Macbookpro - Troy Malone

5D MKII...already have a MacBookPro and I'm willing to ditch my Nikon gear! - Dan Shust

Canon 5D MKII since I already have the 15" MBP. - Alan Le

I don't need either one--but I think the Canon would have much better resale value--so given the choices: Canon. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

Canon 5D MKII - for sure! - I really want one.... :( - Brad

MBP - not a photographer - Matt Faulkner

A 50D and a fast lens. ;-) - D. Lambert

I've already got the 15" unibody so I'd go for the 5Dmkii - Sparky

If I didn't have a laptop, then I would get the 17" MBP. If I already had a lappy, then get the camera... - William Sellers

Well, I recently moved from a 30D to a 5DMII because it was a huge upgrade for my "system". With a 2 year old Macbook Pro still serving me well for my needs, it's an easy decision. Additionally, I can't see using a 17" notebook over a 15 for portability sake, I'd just as well get an iMac and keep using my Macbook Pro for mobile use. - Ryan

Aren't you in Vegas? I think there are a few other options in front of you.. - LA Snark

5D!! - Wil

The camera. I have a new macbook already. - Jim Williams

The 5D is more than a $3k investment. It's $3k upfront but thousands in lenses, flashes and other gear over the years. - Michael Yurechko

Canon 5DMIII... - Greg Kamer

MacBookPro 17-inch. I am a Nikon guy. So, Canon 5D MKII if I had $7K for all the lenses, too. - Chintan Zaveri

The camera! I already have the 15" MBpro. 17" is just too big. - Sherry Main

My 1 yr-old MacBook doesn't thrill me; it sits on the desk unused, and I just couldn't pay more than $200 for a camera, unless I was dreadfully rich. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

5DMKII - sell some images on istockphoto, and then buy an MSI Wind and install OSX. It is faster than my 15" MBP! - Darren Mak

Definitely the 5D MkII - Christopher Chan

$3,000 worth of NOODLZ - Bwana ☠

MBP. I just got a brand new camera. - Glen Mistletoe

100 shares of CRM ;D - barl0w

What would I do with a Mac? - drsPIX

5D MkII - want! I already have a Mac, iPhone, 2 PC's and a laptop. <sigh> gadget budget is small right now though. - Jim Bergman

canon 5d. already have a 15 mbp - Kiran Patchigolla

5D MK II You can always get the Mac later. - Yu Yu Din

I'd pay my bills and buy some groceries. - ::Kristen::

Apple 17-inch MacBook Pro. - Chris Luckhardt

What's an Apple 17-inch MacBookPro and why would a person need one? - Michael Krigsman

Mac book pro - Randy

MacBook Pro because I have neither a mac or digital SLR and the Mac does many things where as the canon does one thing well/ - Bryan Lee

Canon 5D MKII - منــــصــــور

I'll take the MacBook Pro - Rob

MacBookPro...or a Martin 12 http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product... and use the difference to buy a copy of logic pro for my 15" macbook pro - Armen Chakmakjian

I'll go for the MacBook. My heart beats nikon so.... - studio_juan

5D MKII - do you want to lug around that 17" beast? - nicholas einstein

MBP - already have a nice Canon - but my Mac sits firmly on my desk - shaun mclane

MacBook Pro, but I would need another $1200 for the 8GB of RAM. - Shawn Hickman

5D MKII. Even though I already have one. - Kathleen McGivney

Neither. Maybe 3 coins :). I have a Macbook Pro which I don't use often comparing to my PC. I am not into the consumer electronic stuff, only got a digital cam last year :). - dexin

Canon. Can't believe Apple ditched the matte screen on the 17" - FCP users and photographers don't want a glossy screen - the idea of the 17" is the ability to use it out in the field for photo/video editing. - Peter Clayton

So limiting, Robert! If I could pick whatever I wanted, I'd get one of those sweet Asus multi-touch netbooks coming out - and then use the rest to buy Yahoo! stock. :P - Shawn Farner

MB 13'' and the external cinema display. MBP17 is huge to carry out - Jean-Charles VERDIE

canon - jtothea

17" MBP FTW! You should create a poll on SocialToo.com Robert, then we can see graphed results! - Joseph

Craigslist in Cincinnati - 5D for 1200: http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/ele... - D. Lambert

Wow, what a great argument! 82 comments in 17 minutes! - Robert Scoble

MacBook Pro. I really, really, really want a new laptop even though my current MacBook works just fine. - Nation Hahn

Camera. Droooooooooool. - Alix Whitmire

Well part of it would have to go towards fixing my car, http://preview.tinyurl.com/9dz2kz. Then the rest would go towards buying a second camera body to be my main and at least one lens if not two. Then the rest would go towards bills. - Mathew™ one of a kind

Robert: Apple products plus awesome SLR cameras...response is a given :) - Mo Kargas

the camera is nice - especially all the HD video. friend of mine in the movie post-production business reckons this sort of Camera will KILL the movie camera business in a few years time. especially at the low-budget movie (<$30 million) of the movie business. RED already making big inroads. much cheaper than an ARRI. - Scot Mcphee

The MK II as I already have the MBP 17 inch...older but it works. - Semipro

Canon 5D is the winner for me. Great digital photography is the gift that keeps on giving.... ;-) - John Uppendahl

Well.... Given that I have 4 PC desktops, 2 PC laptops, and 1 iMac, all of which are operational and regularly used, AND that I suck at photography, I'm going for what's behind door #3: A whopping big HDTV -- which will get hooked up to the living room PC, of course. ;-) - Joanmarie

17" Mac. Already have a camera. . . - Scott Whitney

Nikon D3 - Bill Sanders

Macbook Pro for me. Would be my first Mac. - Jim Bednarz

Nikon D3 - ThePicMan

MacBook Pro. Don't need such a super-duper crazy camera. Not a real photographer. But a very real Mac geek. - Louis Gray

5D for sure! - Daniel Pourasghar

I'd go the MacBook - but I'd also load it up with the full 8gb of RAM I see as an option (and not many people mentioning). Sadly, a nice 17" MBP setup it just over NZ$10k :( - Mark Derricutt

MacBook Pro. Hands down. I'm a computer engineer, not a photographer. - Logan Leger

well since I've already got a Canon 5D Mark II... hmmmm... - Thomas Hawk

I'll buy neither. What I would rather do is try to buy one share of BRK-B if it gets to that price. :) - imabonehead

The 17" Mac Book Pro, I already have a 5D MkII ;-) - Jeff P. Henderson

I'd buy the camera, I have always loved photography and wanted to learn. - R. Ferguson

The Canon, all the way man!! - Finding The View

Apple! I don't like the fact of the hd video recorder on the 5D and I want the Sony alpha! - Brandy Lea

Canon. 15" MBP is the largest I'll go. - ronin

I would take the cash and build an ultimate gaming PC !!! :D - ralphsaunders

When you buy an inexpensive camera, you really sacrifice quality, and that lack of quality endures (you want to keep your photos forever, right?). When you buy an inexpensive computer, that's not the case (I don't need a unibody case :) - David Andrzejewski

Canon 5D - easy answer! - Susan Beebe

Ouch, this one hurts. I suppose I can't opt for a Nikon equivalent to the Canon? If this is the choice, I'd opt for the MacBook Pro. But if I had 3K, I'd buy myself the Nikon D300 - Karoli

The Canon. A 17" laptop is too big unless you plan to use it as a desktop. - Hartley Spurlock

Mac for sure.I have a first generation Macbook and I need a new one. Kaya Singer - Kaya

I'd pay off my credit card. For all that stuff I, like, already bought. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

the Macbook pro but only because I need to upgrade my computer. - Anna Lynn M.

the Camera for sure - Tai

5d Mark II - Jauder Ho

None - a super-gaming rig. :) - carrotmadman6

Definitely a Canon 5D. - Maria Colacurcio

5D Mark II - Hands down. - Seagate

I would save it until I had between $8-15K for a CO2 laser cutting machine. I like my macs small, and while full frame sounds nice, I know I'm not nearly hungry enough to go pro in photography, so 40D suits me just fine. - Jason Wehmhoener

That's a tough one because I have been wanting to get my first Mac (have to start somewhere, right?!) but am a hard core Canon fan/user. So if push came to shove, I would have to go with the Canon. - Laura Zickus

Mmm, CO2 lasers. - Mo Kargas

That would be either a trip to another continent or a Fujitsu LifeBook P1630, but it would not be either of the options in the question. I seriously cannot understand $3k for a camera, unless you're going to make that money back in a month or two WITH said camera. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Neither, I would invest in the stock market. - DGentry

I'd prefer a D300, however no matter what brand I'd take the camera in a second over the MBP. Save up another $500 and get a Windows Notebook as well. - Kenton

The Canon 5D MKII for sure. Cameras bring me a lot more joy than flashy computers. Though a 17-inch MacBookPro would be nice to edit those new photos on too ;-) - Ian Holton from twhirl

Probably the Mac. I would never carry around a DSLR. Too big. - Rodfather

Neither. The new full frame format with HD Movies (wow! Woopee *rolls eyes*) is crap - only 3.9 FPS?! Who are they kidding?! - Adam

Seeing my Macbook Pro is 5 months old. I would buy neither...but I would buy a MacPro with more RAM. - Ryan

I take a cruise with Lindsay - big ass stateroom. - Internet's Tad

Neither, I'd get a Canon Rebel XTi and build a new gaming PC, anything left over would go toward the new home NOC - xero

I would take my lover to Italy :) - Maryam Scoble

The Canon 5D, I find the photographic process calming, a welcome diversion from the ones and zeros. - cornedbeefgents

Awwww :) - Mo Kargas

Nikon D700 - Rod Bauer from twhirl

There's one in every crowd. - Rod Bauer from twhirl

If I had the $3,000, Canon 5D and a larger donation here http://tinyurl.com/daniela Pros: it's more portable, takes better pictures, and connects to my more compact 15" Macbook Pro. Of course, it doesn't work with my Nikon lenses, so... - Lee Dale

Canon 5D MKII only cause I have a Macbook Pro. If I didnt it would be the Macbook. - Bob Maltais

Nah. Patrick's college fund. 5D Mark 2 or the Macbook isn't all that exciting. - Joshua Hayworth

cannon.I kill computers, so not worth spending 3 grand on one. Plus I have a (beat up) macbook pro already. - InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)

Photos shoot at 3.9 fps, video shoots at 30 fps. @AdamGiovane - Jim Bergman

The MacBook of course. - Rob Fahrni

mac - Vishy

5D, but I wish it had XLR audio. - Gus

the new MBP, without a doubt ... my current ones needs a refresh (I'm accepting donations btw) ;-) - Jeffrey Canton

Since I'll be getting the new MBP anyway, I'll take the 5D. BTW, is anyone keeping score? - Brad Kligerman

I would buy the Canon, but of course, I would need a MacBook Pro in order to edit/view the photos the way they were meant to be viewed. - Robert Peña

Blatant self-promotion, but if Robert used re-searchr.com it would keep score for us... I wrote it to suck down inline multiple choice selections so no ne would even have to leave ff - James Ostheimer

Robert, you're asking the question that's been pondering in my mind from some time (albeit it used to be with the 15" and Cinema display v. 5D/a900/D700 -cannot make my mind-). I want to be able to make a decision before March. I think I'll be going for the Mac, since I might relocate in part of the world where carrying an expensive piece of art around my neck might be more dangerous than here, in JPN. - Paul Papadimitriou

I'd go for a MBP, mine needs an upgrade and I just bought a 50D not long ago which is just fine for me. - Andrew Trinh from Nambu

I need cash! :) - Randy

Some of us are Nikon people. Some of us are not Mac people. I'll just take the 3 Gs. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

Nikon D700 + 50mm 1.4 prime lens! - Guillaume Lemoine

More lenses. My camera is fine, and this Thinkpad is a good 'un. - Paula W

Seems like Apple design the 17-inch MacBookPro just can use in 3years.the battery can only use in 1000 times,1time per 1day,3years.But Canon 5D can take more beatuful pics for me,and can stand by me more than 3years.if i really have 3000dollers,i real do this.kick off 17-inch MacbookPro. - jedorstar from twhirl

Lenses, like Paula sez. - Rob Kramer

Buy half and half :) - Michael Forian

Wow, I came late to this convo. Well, for what it's worth at this point, I'd probably get the lappytop, sell my old MBP and then use THAT money to buy a cheaper camera. :D - Jon, the Chilled Beartato

Canon 5D MKII, no doubt. I have a 1.5 year old 15-inch MacBookPro which is still more than OK. Going from Canon 400D to a 5D MKII however would be a major upgrade. - Rutger Blom

Macbook I think. I have a 40D but REALLY want the 5D. Which do you think you could get your hands on first? - Andrew Smith

The 5D. The MacBookPro can wait. - Chris Nixon

5D, I have enough laptops as it is. - Amit Morson

The $2800 MBP becomes a lot more compelling when converted to 2080€. - Brad Kligerman

I'm a Nikon guy but the 5D MKII has me seriously considering a switch - Bryan Thatcher from twhirl

As I don't like Macs and into my photography the choice out of the two is simple. :-) But I've rather spend the money on say the Nikon D3 and if you gave me an extra grand or 2 then I'd go for the Nikon D3X. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes from twhirl

Without though, the Canon 5D MKII. First up, you don't want to trust another "first gen" Apple product. And with the unimpressive lineup yesterday, maybe the 15" laptops are coming out real soon now, with similar features, and all quirks ironed out - Colin Charles from twhirl

MAC!!! - Orli Yakuel

(Friendfeed needs a poll feature) - Jérôme Flipo

5D over the MAC Pro. - Robert Miller

MacBookPro - just bought myself a nice camera with a fracking big lens! - Joel Hammond-Turner

Canon! - Janet

Canon. I have a laptop and rarely use it - well not as a laptop. It sits on a desk as a permenant fixture. - Ian May

Canon 5D mk 2 :) - Joe Dawson

Camera, I never liked the 17". It's too heavy for a "portable" - Melissa dela Merced from twhirl

neither, a big ass HDTV :) - Terry O'Fee

17-inch macbookPro is way too big. so I would go for the camera. Problem is I would need to learn how to use it then... - Davide D'Incau

If you have good lenses to take advantage of the MKII (extra $3000 needed here), go for the camera! - Joao Pedro

I would buy a Apple 17-inch macbook of course.! I don't have an apple and I would really like one. I have a camera thats good enough for me. - Qbat

nor this neither that! i will send money to help people in Gaza or at least I'll send 1000 $. - خیزران kheyzaran

canon 5d mk ii based on the videos I've seen - i mean just look at these http://is.gd/cP6x - planetMitch

The Canon, surely. No use for a laptop that big. - Ryan Sholin

5D over here too - Simon Wicks

Macbook Pro 17! - Greg

The camera. Already have three computers but have no camera. - Martha

I am not pro enough to need the 5D, I am actually looking at a D60 or D90. But the 17 Macbook is something I can use :) - TheSleepyGeek

I'd buy the Nikon D700 - David Parmet from twhirl

neither - cash is still king - viki saigal

its the lens, not the body - spring for L glass - @jessewright

MacBookPro - Stewart Rogers

New MacBookPro 17". I would probably get more use out of it than the Canon. But my, oh my, ya'll, the Canon sure is sweet. - Matthew Freeman

I have the glass. I have the Mac, I'd get the 5DMKII - stretta from twhirl

5D - I don't need a macbook. I'm happy with my PC and laptop - they cover my my needs perfectly. - Roberto Bonini

MBP. - Michael Molinar

Donate it to @armano. - Jim Mitchem

given my current status .. I am happy with my Canon XTi so I would go for the MacBook Pro. - Kapil

5D, but that's cuz I've been saving up for one. A new MBP would def. be on the list of future purchases (current computer is 3 years old) - Michael

Canon 5d Mk II, far more useful than the new laptop. More fun. One encourages you to sit around, the other encourages you to go out :-) - Richard A.

MacBookPro, Canon sux. (OK, relax, just kidding. I'm a Nikon guy. I have no Canon lenses.) - Trevor Carpenter

Canon!! - Ivy /composmentis from twhirl

I would buy the Mac, get a cheaper camera with the money I have left, and edit and enhance my videos using my Mac. - Shevonne

I'd go the Mac route. I'm looking to buy one anyway and I've already got a camera. Might not be as fancy as the Canon do-dad, but I'll manage. - James Ferguson

Wow 202 comments! How did I miss this thread? :) - AJ Batac

17 inch MCP - johnpiercy

The 17" MBP as my current 12" PB is on it's last legs and needs replacing - need rather than want for me - Sally Church

The Canon. I already have a 17" MacBook Pro. - Carmen

The Canon... even though I already have a 5D and actually need a new laptop - Shawn Duffy from twhirl

Macbookpro - Roger Kondrat

I'd say the MacBook... you can do more with it. - Dejim Juang

EOS 5D - Julien Guyard

Canon, since the MBP that I'd want would actually cost $5823. Not $3000. - Ben Hwang from twhirl

This would be much more enjoyable if there was some kind of poll widget along side comments. - Michael Leggett

The camera..I find apple laptops overpriced for what they offer. - Nick

Would be easier to see at a glance. - Richard A.

I'd by the largest HD display I could... - Clay Newton

Canon 5D MKII. huh.. no: a powerful Linux box - Thierry R. Andriamirado

The MacBookPro, I have a Canon 30d but I do not have a MacBook - Bob Gannon

I wouldn't want a 17'' monster of a MacBookPro and therefore would go for the Canon 5D MKII - Donald Townsend

Neither. Both are overpriced. If no other options; I'd go camera. - Wade Dorrell

5D, the 17-inch MacBook Pro is very big. Harder to find bags for it and its less portable. - seanb

bank it, put in matress, done need either of those things, we need smarter devices that tell us the likelyhood of use-longevitiy in them, "i'm a camera you bought last year, you used me 9 times, i collect dust, owner- please resist replacing me unless you really really really need to, and the data suggests you don't.." - Dan Rockwell from twhirl

Not enough to buy what I want with the Canon, and I wouldn't be caught dead spending $3000 on a laptop. What a waste! - Paul Puri

Neither. A $3000 laptop is not worth it just because of its branding. - Spencer

ohh.. I can't choose. I want both of them... But if i choose, first canon, second mac... İ have canon 40 d and 15'' mac book pro. And i don't like mac's new screen. It's like mirror... - devletsah

Spencer: as a recent PC to Mac switcher, it's more than brand. Much more. - Ryan

I'd buy a netbook for the other three members of my family and put the remaining $2000 toward bills or savings. :) - Steve Lowe

Agree with Aaron, love my 13" Macbook and really want the 5D MKII - Kyle

Definitely the Mac. - John Clifton

Is this thing still going? I can't remember if I replied to this yet, but I say it depends on what will benefit you the most. Robert, you are a photo-maniac. I know that you have a few cameras laying around the house, but I don't know how many Macs you have. You have to remember that a 17" laptop sounds great on paper, but I know that you do a lot of traveling as well, so it might now suite your means. Then again, I would never keep $3,000 dollars in my pocket ;) - Michael Forian

of course the mac - doesn´t matter what the second option is... - Dieter Schwarz

I would buy the Canon 5D MKII but being a Nikonian I would end up buying the MacBook Pro and feel no remorse :) - Carlos Lorenzo

MacBook Pro. I need a laptop really bad. - Nick Humphries

The camera. 17-inch laptops are fricking ridiculous. - Andru Edwards

camera and a box of junior mints - Morgan Haley

I'd definitely go for a MB Pro. My Rebel XTi and Panasonic GS180 video cam is doing me just fine. - emon hassan

Forget the Mac, keep your current camera, and buy better lenses. - Michael Krigsman

17 inch laptop is useless in term of mobility so I would go with the Canon - Hadar Weiss

A Sony a900. :) - Jeff Jones

Neither. I'd start with the Bonobo Pro Ubuntu Laptop for under $2000 and use the $1000 to max it out. http://system76.com/product... - Internet Strategist

Impressive amount of comments here, this has to be the highest ever now right? - Joe Dawson

I'm sorry, can you repeat the question: did you say a "camera", a "computer" or a "shark with laser beams"? - Micah Wittman

save the money for tougher times. as much as I'd like the Canon, it's going to be just an expensive toy for me. and my three year old Inspiron works just fine for the most things I do on it. - Franci Penov from twhirl

5Dm2 because I already have the new MBP 15" 2.8Ghz. Mostly b/c the cam is more revolutionary than the 17", even though the 17" battery life is enticing. - Thomas Bøhm

Wow, 250 comments - OMG ...FF is really growing ...YEAH !!! - Susan Beebe

Yeah, this week has produced several >100 comment threads in my feed. - xero

Not the 5D, but some body+the best lenses, that actually lasts longer. Laptops are out of date in months and often die within 18, cameras and lenses last a lot longer - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

I would buy a Apple 17-inch MacBookPro, only cause I already have a SLR, so I dont need the Canon 5D MKII. - Colide81 (James)

I would not spend it, id rather invest 3000 dollars with 10 shares of google - Kyle Weller

then just buy lenses - you probably already have a computer that can do everything you need - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Exxon-Mobile. Oh wait, what was the question again? - Erik S

Neither- new hardware for the pending Win7 beta drop. :) - Randy Holloway from twhirl

both! - jortai

@Ryan I am a Mac user, have been for a while. It's just my opinion, but $2800 for a piece of hardware in which you can the same or better specs on a PC, is quite a bit of branding. - Spencer

Using the MacBook Pro 17 inch now (love it!)- and I am quite happy with my Canon Powershot G9, so I'll just take the cash and pay down some of my debt--thanks! - Kelly W.

Canon 5D MKII then buy the 15" MacBook Pro later. - John Wang

I would buy a new fast lens for my old 5D (around $1000) and save the rest. - Alexander Arsky

Nikon E90 *and* a 15" Macbook. :) I bend rules. - Daniel Miessler

Nikon E90 like Daniel :P - Mol, Santa Claws

I already have the mac so I would take the Camera. - WilliamMuncrief

is someone tabulating these answers? - Glen Mistletoe

Canon 5d MKII, i'm not a mac person so that was easy. - Squid

I've been back and forth on this since the 17" was announced. I am very likely to upgrade to the 5DMKII this year. But I want a more powerful laptop to work on the huge files it creates. Chicken? Egg? Confused. - Jeremy Brooks

Canon 5D MKII for sure. MBP 15 is still chugging along after 2 years. And the 5D is still doing great after 1 year, but I would really like the new 5D. - Johnny Sewell

5D Mark II , without a doubt! - americanm

Caonon 5D all the way - John Uppendahl

Leo Laporte

Yeah it looks like my Twitter account was hacked and the password and email changed. No stray posts. Yet.

January 5, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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Get hold of them. Quickly. - Roberto Bonini

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Oh geez... Did you still have an active session open? - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

WHAT?!?!?! Jeez....did you Super Gen Pass the password? - Live4Emma (L4S)

I've posted a note on my Twitter feed, hopefully it'll make it to the Twitter folk. - Dave Winer

Ouch Leo. Hope Twitter gets that account back to you real-soon-now. - Robert Miller

wow, thats not a good thing... - Bryce Campbell from twhirl

Mine changed while I had an active session going! Change password - orionstarr

Leo got hacked! - orionstarr

I did not fall for the recent Phishing scheme so one of three things has happened, my password was hacked through a flaw in Twitter, one of the many services (NOT twply) that I gave my credentials to has hijacked it, or someone guessed the password. - Leo Laporte

Yep, spam and mlm are going to be a massive problem for Twitter mainly because spammers have a business model and twitter does not, here's an article I wrote on this topic just before Christmas http://experiencecurve.com/archive... - karl

I figured there would be some good conversation on TWiT regarding the hacks, now even more so. - Matt Mutz

This is not about pfishing.. this is something else - Ian D. Nock

i'll assume you put a strong password on somehow, yes? So that would mean something gave away your password or there was a bored hacker somewhere that zapped you...sorry to hear that.... - Live4Emma (L4S)

That's Harsh. It had to have been Kevin Rose. He knew you were on to him - Marcus Beagley

STEVE JOBS ADMITS HEALTH PROBLEM http://tinyurl.com/stevejo... - James Carroll

@Leo - Maybe one of those third party services isn't securely storing your credentials and it was stolen from them. I'm saying that maybe the third party isn't malicious, just careless. - Mitch

uh oh - Veronica

Leo, the Twitter official blog says they reset the passwords on your behalf - David Lloyd

Was Leo using Power Twitter at the time? New App new problem, coincidence? - SkiCat56

Get on the Red Phone and get @ev on the line. I've always knew giving out login credentials to 3rd party apps would lead to this. I like ping.fm and FF's use of an API key a lot better. - Dave Senior

Twitter needs to say more about what it was.. but my feeling this is something in the infrastructure or through people ... after all, Obama has not used his account for sometime. - Ian D. Nock

And you can bet that no-one messes around with all the apps using that account - Ian D. Nock

Well let's hope they don't make any horrible statements on your behalf about your sexual orientation or organs. :-) - Dave Winer

Twitter should use also something like apikey like ff, password for controlling your account and apikey for getting your content... or something like that :) - tanel

I heard from a reliable twitter account that Bill O'Reily is hot for manflesh.... - Mitch

No self-respecting gay man wants Bill O'Reilly. Not. A. One. - Derrick

Twitter may have reset my password but they haven't told me yet. Maybe they need my email? - Leo Laporte

Not even his "staunch morals"? - Mitch

I bet they wished they had followed Dave's advice about the authentication key thingy xx - David Lloyd

I'm not a celebrity so probably no need to worry, but I changed my password nonetheless. - Herb Hernandez

That's why I don't use 3rd party web services, don't trust any. Also Log-in on twitter.com using https. - Jay Barcelo

I think Leo put his fingers on the possible hacker routes. Pretty ugly. - Chris Baskind

Is Power Twitter one of the culprits??? I might have to uninstall it. - Roberto Bonini

New official blog post says "These accounts were compromised by an individual who hacked into some of the tools our support team uses to help people do things like edit the email address associated with their Twitter account when they can't remember or get stuck" - David Lloyd

Good grief! This is getting ridiculous. - Bill Sodeman

Hey now.. that's not cool. What did Leo ever do to you? Albrecht voices/suspects a hack on Diggnation podcast and now this? - Jamie Wareham

Geez Leo what a pain. I am sorry to hear.... - Rob Cairns

Is nothing sacred anymore? Seriously, Leo's Twitter! - Mike Syrek

Good luck Leo! - Mitchell Tsai

Seems you weren't the only one. http://www.cnn.com/2009... - Greg

There's a security hole in some "support pages" used by Twitter admins. Inside job I say. Disgruntled former Twitterite. - Scott Duffy

What's the procedure to get your account back? - David Andrzejewski

is there second email facility for twitter, like gmail does? - marx

Same here, actually. I haven't been able to log in or to reset my password since about 11am today. I did not fall for the phishing attack either. I was using Power Twitter, which I installed yesterday. I can still update Twitter and get my DMs via SMS, but otherwise I'm locked out. Thankfully, there are no stray posts yet on my timeline. I sent Twitter a bug report through their help screen earlier today, but haven't heard back from them yet. - alex de carvalho

Power twitter did NOT affect my account at all. That's just a Firefox add on and it does NOT ask for your password, so I doubt that would be an issue. I think this is more of a pointed attack to go for twitter's management; PR attack. Notice how pointed the accounts are that were hacked -- many *high profile* accounts...that's not a mistake, that was done on purpose. Leo was a victim and I hope they catch that / those jerks! - Susan Beebe

Robert Scoble

I survived the great hacking of Twitter just fine. Did a fun interview today and saw a pre-funding company. Tomorrow, #ces09 can't wait!

January 5, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Dammit! I was hoping to get through my FriendFeed in *less* than 3 hours today :) - David Andrzejewski

FriendFeed may be life condensed, but it's not that dense. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Robert Scoble

To properly back up you need three copies. What is your workflow? What services work best for you? Discuss here:

January 2, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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To properly back up you need three copies. One on your local drive in case something gets corrupted. One on an external hard drive or other media in case your hard drive dies. One on an external hard drive or other media or storage service that you store someplace else in case your house or office burns down. - Robert Scoble

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Dropbox. Three separate laptops and their Web service. - Stephen Pierzchala

Forget the external hdd in some other location, and just back up to that webspace you have that you never use, or maybe cloud-based backup. - Shivanand Velmurugan

For a local backup I run Time Machine on my iMac to an external drive. I also have a remote backup in the cloud using Backblaze. In addition I use DotMac and Mesh for sharing files among different computers. - Jonathon

Here's mine: The original copy, one stored using Time Machine, one copy on a network storage device (ReadyNAS) using RAID and one copy at an off-site backup location. Works well and I've got my backup scripts running constantly. EDIT: I also use Dropbox for my documents. - Eric D. Brown

#1 hard drive, #2 another hard drive, #3 old stuff goes to DVD - barl0w

Carbonite for local machines. - Todd Hoff

This looks like a good start for rsync to cloud. http://bit.ly/MBB0 - Shivanand Velmurugan

Around midnight I received a weird 'file access error', so I spent the first 90 minutes of 2009 running fsck on my MacBook Pro, then went to bed. First task on waking up? Time Machine (whole system) plus Mozy (home directory). Sadly, using the network support to back up with Time Machine to a disk on my Airport Extreme failed horribly when I tried it, so I'm down to Mozy (over the Internet) and Time Machine to a directly-connected USB drive. - James

Simple enough - internal drives backup nightly to external drives. The backup copy of my system drive is boot-able. I need to add the off-site factor to this setup. SuperDuper! is my backup software. - Tom Harrison

I agree the dropbox solution works well for me except for photos and video. In that case I have main HD, backup HD an HD I try to keep off site. If all else fails I have high res jpegs on flickr. - gfurry

computer, extra hard drive i keep in fire safe at home, WD Passport i keep with me most of the time. I use a self written program to run backups to all 3 places which i try to run it every few days to a week. cheaper then online services! - Russell Thomas

I'm using TimeMachine. I'm thinking about cloud solutions, but didn't find something cheap enough... - Simon Robic

I have one of the unibody Aluminum Macbooks with a 120GB SSD drive onboard. I plug this into 2 x 500GB USB disks when I'm at work. One of these is a Time Machine backup. The other has manually driven Carbon Copy Cloner backups. Done when I remember. Probably once a month. I also have a small mini-NAS on my work network which Apple Backup does an incremental network backup to once a day. At home I've got another small mini-NAS which I do the same. Also do a weekly backup to Amazon S3 using JungleDisk. - Alasdair Allan

Original, one copy on my Drobo via Time Machine and important (and not so huge stuff) on S3 via JungleDisk and on iDisk. Burning houses aren't as common over here as they are in the US. :) - Holger Eilhard

Each of our pcs has an external hd, an internal backup drive, and we have a backup server. We back up to the internal b/u drive, sync it to the external, then to the b/u server. It may sound like overkill, but we manage a TON of mission-critical data. Websites get backed up daily to the backup server and to off-site FTP. - Ron's Home And Hardware

I have a (1) a portable HD that I bring to work and store (2) there and also another (3) PC running Windows Server with a RAID5 setup. Tens of thousands of photos to lose would be a disaster. - Loukas Koufodontes

RAID 1 NAS, periodically copied to external USB hard drive. - Matt Mutz

Holger we have both fire and earthquakes so I decided no local storage for backups. It's all offsite now and I feel better for it. - Todd Hoff

Mirrored NAS 500GB each, plus portable HDD... cloud coming soon! Evaluating Amazon vs. Mozy - thoughts?? - Susan Beebe

I agree that it feels good to be backed up. I use duplicate external HD for my photos, and SmugVault (Amazon S3) for offsite. Uploading photos to SmugVault is a pain - it is very slow - but it works. Of course, if you forget to pay Amazon, you lose your backup. Backing up current pix to SmugVault is no problem, but I have a 1.5TB backlog. I tried DVD offsite, but they don't last very long. - Tom Kimmerer

Dell's DataSafe runs on my laptop, important files (like my photos, vidoes, and music) are manually archived to external drives on a reg basis, and Live Mesh keeps my documents synced between my computers and the cloud. Everything else is online. - Sarah Perez

todd: if I'd live in earthquake and fire country like, for example, say California, I'd also be worried about onsite backup. But - thank gd - the worst thing that could happen here is a flood, and even that's a stretch... - Holger Eilhard

The drive I'm on, an IDE external drive, or networked drive, and I'd like to have some decent remote back up, but I need Terra bytes worth of it and something that lets me upload the file structure as is. I'm using acronis true image echo to back up my installs. vista ult. - Devlin Holliday

I use Second Copy 7 for automated backups. It automatically sends backup copies to two other systems on the LAN and one off-site backup via FTP on a remote server. It also makes periodic copies to a potable drive that is sent to an off-site location. Frequently changed documents are copied every two hours, others are copied every day or once a week depending on importance. - Vishwas

Media is stored online. Important docs are on an external HD and back up Gmails. - Mona Nomura

1 weekly copy to external HD, Same again on another HD kept out of the house. Critical files changing more rapidly to Dropbox. Not perfect, but has worked for me. - Pete Marshall

Windows Home Server - two copies of each file. And i'm thnking of JungleDisk or somthing to Amazon S3. - Roberto Bonini

Drobo for storage, I back up important personal docs to S3/Jungledisk nightly. $5/month dirt cheap! I use an external disk for my 750+gigs of media (iTunes, photos (100+ gigs!) and my own videos, etc) that I take off site. I run time machine on my Macbook Pro at the office, take the macbook home, time machine drive stays here for offsite. - Lon Seidman

Time Machine to an external drive does well enough for me. Maybe I'm not paranoid enough, but I just don't see the value in an off-site backup for personal use. - David Wynn from fftogo

2 x Backup drives, alternate backups to each drive daily, and adrive.com for offsite backup (nice 50gig free account :o) ) along with DVD backup on adhoc basis - Carl Grint

Server to local using SyncBack SE, then Carbonite copies the local data off site. - Michael Krigsman

Virtually everyone who chimed in on this thread is a techie. Think for a moment about the typical consumer. There are no easy solutions. Larger hard drives make it easier to accumulate tons of docs, photos, music, and videos. Hard drives last a few years (and what data is there on reliability of drives that haven't spun up for years?). DVD-R and CD-R are probably only good for a few years (and of course are tiny relative to the data sizes we're talking about). Solid state still has a high cost per gigabyte. - LogEx

Online backup is useful, but will the company be around in 3 years? 5 years 10 years? What about the privacy of your documents? Break up your data into chunks and upload encrypted files? Also, consider how fragmented data is for many consumers... multiple computers, gaming consoles, mobile devices, etc. - LogEx

Mozy is in the cloud, backed by EMC, pretty simple to use (even for non-techies) and pretty cheap. Great support when you chat or call in. - Lee Herman

Keep in mind fire safes are designed to keep paper from combusting, not protect electronic gear from damage. Big difference. - stretta from twhirl

@Logical Extremes - your comments are definitely spot-on for Windows users. I think the Mac has a great built-in (and easy to use) solution. While Time Machine may not be configurable enough for us geeks, it's a real winner for trouble-free unattended backups. Very easy to swap disks too for taking them off site. - Lon Seidman

@Logical I see that a lot of non-techies are using external HDDs. They're pretty easy, but yeah, nothing lasts forever. - Sarah Perez

I've been using mozy.com for over a year now for pictures, personal files etc and it works well. I'm kind of a techie (a CTO @ ADP.COM), but, consider myself a consumer when it comes to my home stuff (has to be easy, wife doesn't have to think about it etc). I've recently started using Live Mesh to push files across all of my home devices as well which is great (esp. for one note,... more... - Richard Anderson

Logical: That's what Carbonite does. You can easily backup 100GB to them. David Friend, their CEO, told me he got the idea when a family member lost photos when laptop was stolen from a car. - Michael Krigsman

Every copy of data you put onto S3 is replicated (within and across data centers) so it's highly durable. It's where all my important data goes (through Jungledisk) and has been for a long time (disclaimer: I work there now, but was a user long before). Hard drives at home (a few TBs) are for things I look at every day and for sample libraries :) - Deepak Singh

Right, I know there are tons of components to an overall strategy out there, but for the masses, they're lucky if they have an automatic on-site backup like Time Machine. My point is that computers aren't like a file drawer or an appliance. Good backup today requires a good strategy and a combination of tools, and most consumers aren't up to it. - LogEx

The points raised by Logical Extremes are the same reasons I have not signed up with an online backup company. How do I know they'll still be here in 10 years, and how do I know I can trust them with my data? - Tom Harrison

Quite true @Logical Extremes--We all learn the importance of back-ups the same way: we suffer a data loss. Somethings I have backed up to DVD or another computer or "in the cloud" some projects live on in the "oral tradition" where I simply describe how great this thing is to someone else--an if it's lost--it's legend lives on...(silly)... - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

External hard drive is 1. Mozy is 2. Mesh.com for extra important stuff is 3. Skydrive for paranoia - Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)

The other issue that hasn't been mentioned is data obsolescence. Us techies can handle it if we plan for it, but as applications and data file formats get older, more and more files become unreadable for most folks. How many of you have old files that you don't have a reader app for anymore? I always encourage people to choose the simplest, most prevalent, and most open data format for a given application. ".txt" rules! - LogEx

And I hope that people rank highly the availability of simple, open format, file export capabilities, when choosing which services will house their data (backup, social, etc.). - LogEx

Re the trust issues with online backup, I think you have to go with a bigger player / name (like EMC owning mozy.com), that was my reasoning at least - Richard Anderson

Microsoft Mesh to sync across all machines, backup (using Syncbackup) of one primary to network attached storage, and Jungledisk to Amazon S2 as well for off-site + periodic checkpoint copies to external disks. I am a fan of backup software that stores the backup as individual files. - Ian D. Nock

Windows Vista Backup to 2 external drives at 2 locations + burning to DVDs. All long-term backups are regularly re-hashed and checked to make sure they can still be read. In addition, most of my backups contain a copy of an entire computer so all the programs are there. - Zian Choy

SuperDuper! plus selective JungleDisk for Mac. unison to server at school for laptop. SmugMug for photos. - Emil Sit

I'm beginning to think I should try online backup for offsite backups of my personal data. Has anyone used both BackBlaze and Mozy.com? How do they compare? Would anyone recommend another service at a similar price point? ($5/mo, unlimited) - Mike English

Roberto: Also look at Mozy Home -- It is also 5$/month unlimited. - Robert Miller

Different kind of workflow, also for @LogicalExtreme's non-techies: Keep an Outbox folder on every machine. Store pretty much every document you can there. Copy Outbox(es) to USB drive every week or so. Keep the USB drive in your car or on keychain. It's not a full-state backup, but 98% of computer state is not life-critical. Emergencies are rare and it takes less than a week to rebuild computer state. - Christopher Galtenberg

(Can also have VitalNonPrivate and VitalPrivate folders in Outbox - zip and email both to yourself, the latter with encryption -- that's your 'cloud backup') - Christopher Galtenberg

Just spent a few days sorting my backups out. Now have 1) machine image (Vista Ulitmate backup could use Acronis or Ghost) which will only be updated occassionally - on an external drive, 2) system image and incremental (updated monthly) on a protected local partition using Acronis 3) daily incremental backup of user data areas using Acronis on external drive and 4) daily copy of user data areas on an external server using Mozy - easy set up, good price, unlimited capacity. Can't be too careful! - Mark Warren

+1 Mark -- Good practices. - Robert Miller

I love my ReadyNas (http://www.readynas.com/) and have already failed over from a bad disk. Killer timing on this thread; getting ready to rsync to the cloud... - Jeff Malek

Currently Local system RAID 1....soon adding backup to NAS (also RAID1) & using an Offline backup service like Dropbox or other AWS hosted service. - Mark Krynsky

FWIW, http://journalspace.com/this_is... <-- this is a huge reason why RAID =/= backup. RAID = availability, Backup = recoverability. - matthew john ernisse

Carbonite. I just lost all data on my laptop a week ago. Restored my mission critical files immediately (after reinstalling Windows), then restored everything else over the next few days. There is no need to personally maintain three copies when you're using an online system with it's own redundancy such as Carbonite. - John Morley

Web-based backup -- Carbonite, Mozy or Jungledisk with Amazon S3 work nicely. I've shared John Morley's experience. - Sean McBride

I'm seeing Carbonite, Mozy and Jungledisk regularly mentioned... anyone care to chime in on why one versus the other? - Sean Katona

Sean Katona: I prefer Jungledisk with Amazon S3 to Carbonite and Mozy, because of price, user interface and reliability. You might want to try all three to judge for yourself. - Sean McBride

I used Jungledisk and switched to Carbonite because it backs up everything automatically as it changes and I don't have to worry about it at all. - Todd Hoff

I haven't tried Jungledisk or Mozy. Carbonite is great for me because it's seamless... you just don't ever have to worry about it. If it's not backing up properly it will tell you. If you have any files over 4gig that you want backed up though, you do have to manually tell Carbonite to keep those backed up or else they'll be skipped. - John Morley

I back up my important files on a back-up server then I back-up the back-up twice on tapes: One copy in my office, the other in my wife's office. - Charles Nadeau

I've found backing up to be far less important than it used to be - almost everything I have is in the cloud. Code is in version control hosted offsite and backed up, documents are in google docs, email's in gmail, photos are in flickr, not much else left to back up. - Parand

I've implemented a tiered system with numerous local snapshots (Time Machine, in my case), and automatic remote sync (Jungledisk). Details and overall considerations for any backup strategy here: http://tr.im/2v7b - Phil

IDrive is one of the better solutions. It is faster for backups and restores compared to other services, and easy to use. But nothing beats a local drive based backup. Online Backup services are simply too slow. - Kitu Gidwani

Some people might find Adam Tow's strategy interesting: http://www.tow.com/2008... - Joe Perrin

Someone needs to come up with software that lets you backup to a USB drive stored at your friend's house. You backup to the drive, take it to his house and plug it in, then do incrementals over the web. Encrypt everything. You do the same for him. - Dom

I just back up things to an external hard drive. And I refuse to back up to the cloud as I can't trust something that isn't under my control. - Mathew™ one of a kind

I use Acronis to back up an image to my FreeBSD box with ZFS. (Sorry Scoble, they're western digital drives :). Then, I also use rsync.net (lots of space for cheap), and - you guessed it - rsync the important files (documents, pictures, etc) to the cloud. - David Andrzejewski

I've been using Mozy and have recently been trying Syncplicity [http://www.syncplicity.com]. I don't know if I can justify the $10/mo for 50GB, though. The benefit to Syncplicity for me is that it's near real-time sync with unlimited computers. - Cory

Locally I have a RAID5 array on a dedicated server, otherwise Backblaze/DropBox. - Michael Laccetti

Robert - THANKS! I was one of the lucky 20 winners of the Jungle Disk software by @Mosso - wow, this is awesome and works seamlessly with Amazon s3 online "cloud" data storage services. Finally, I have offsite, encrypted backups!! Thanks again! Keep getting FFers cool promos like this! :) - Susan Beebe

Nitin Julka

The Power Of Less - http://thepowerofless.com/

December 25, 2008 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

Looks like there are some things in here that could nicely integrate with GTD. - David Andrzejewski

Robert Scoble

The Scobles are arguing over dinner. Did you think Twitter/friendfeed would be any different? :-)

December 20, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

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Never argue at the dinner table, for the one who is not hungry always gets the best of the argument. -Richard Whately - Robert Kelley

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I would rather friendfeed. Alex is funny. He says the xbox is better than the Playstation. I have both so can authoritative when I say he is wrong. - Robert Scoble

Is the argument over the fact that you're posting to FriendFeed during dinner? ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

Twitter for posting day to day, friendfeed for discussion and archive...Love them both.. - Sloan Bowman

Ken: no, dinner is over. I am about to get whacked for that now. :-) - Robert Scoble

I stayed away from FF for a while. At first glance, I thought that it was confusing with too much going on. Now, I'm liking the feeds and more content. And twitter isn't as exciting. I'm still looking for more responses/feedback (specifically to my posts/questions) from both sites. Now, kiss and make up! - BEX

Did Milan win the argument? - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Haahahahah!!! - Susan Beebe

Re: Milan: yes! :-) - Robert Scoble

I don't need to own both systems to KNOW which one is the best...hardware has NOTHING to do with it...it's ALL about the software and the 360 beats the PS3 there without even breaking in to a sweat. - Alex Scoble

Go Milan! But Alex, what about the red ring of death? - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

The PS3 is a superior system with inferior software. - Geoff Schultz

Alex: I will let you play the machine with the noisy fans and inferior graphic quality when you come over for Christmas just to make you happy. :-) - Robert Scoble

Robert LOL hahahahaa!! Milan needs to get his own twitter, FF and FB accounts soon just so we know his viewpoint on all these hot arguments! - Susan Beebe

What about red ring of death? It's a nonissue...It's all about games...not about hardware. - Alex Scoble

I will gladly play the better system despite the noisy fans. - Alex Scoble

Milan is an iPhone fan. Just like his smart brother Patrick, who plays Brothers in Arms on his iPhone and says it is the app with the best graphics. - Robert Scoble

Alex: that is cool. I will be upstairs playing with the Sonos to get away from the fan noise. - Robert Scoble

You can play with your irrelevant redundant media extender all you want. I'll be playing with the real hardware on your home theater. Microsoft GETS media convergence. Microsoft GETS online gameplay. Microsoft GETS what a gaming system should be....well except for the quality thing...but they GET that now too...presumably. - Alex Scoble

I've always loved watching brothers. They're hilarious. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Robert --- Is Alex trying to tell you to GET a clue? :) lol - Susan Beebe

I like the confidence in that "presumably" rofl. - Geoff Schultz

My brother and I both love the ps3. That is all. - Bwana ☠

Alex: microsoft needs an evangelist like you. Susan: he is trying. :-) - Robert Scoble

Robert Yes he is! :) - Susan Beebe

Arguing over dinner or arguing, over dinner? - Josh Haley

I wondered, myself, but decided that I could comprehend from the rest of the discussion. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Arguing. Period. :-) - Robert Scoble

Ah, Christmas at the Scobles. Have a great one folks! - Josh Haley

Arguing with my family after filling with wine is always a fun experience...at least for those of us properly filled with wine. - Alex Scoble

That is by far the nerdiest family argument I've ever heard of. Go Scobles :) - David Andrzejewski

By the way, the supposition that you need to own both systems in order to be authoritative is wrong. I've been a hardcore gamer for far longer than Robert, despite his advanced age and have played on way more systems than him...I KNOW what I'm talking about when discoursing on video games and the related hardware. - Alex Scoble

By the way...see this http://friendfeed.com/e... to see how wrong my brother is in regards to graphics quality of PS3 vs 360. The PS3 might have technically better hardware, but because it's so much harder to get the most out of it, the hardware advantage is effectively moot. Of course hardware doesn't matter anyhow...the best library always wins. - Alex Scoble

"Advanced age." Heh. - Ken Sheppardson

David Ward

Where do you order your cabling? - http://wiredathome.com/story...

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monoprice.com - on the advice of people from avsforum.com - David Andrzejewski

David Ward

A question about HDMI - http://wiredathome.com/story...

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HDMI -> TV, then TOSLink (Optical Audio) from the TV -> Receiver - David Andrzejewski

Robert Scoble

@joemaller says iPhone and VNC is a game changer.

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iPhone and RDP would be even more of a game changer for me, personally. I don't use much if any VNC at my job. - Jared Smith

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Both would be great. I'd definitely like to see an RDP client as well ... - Patrick Jordan

I disagree. I don't think it's anything revolutionary - other smart phones have had RDP, VNC, SSH, etc. for a while now. - David Andrzejewski

@scobleizer why don't you come over to the Luxe after you're done with the family - we'll have some drinks and hang out with @briansolis - Aaron Strout

Aaron call me 425-205-1921 - Robert Scoble

Partially agree with David - had sort of missed the game changer phrase - VNC / remote access on a mobile device is not a huge new thing by any means. But ... like web browsing on other mobile platforms, this is a *very* different experience ... - Patrick Jordan

This iPhone is like a sickness ... c'mon quit talking about it already! - Charles Heflin

Charles: no. :-) - Robert Scoble

I'd prefer parallels for the iPhone :-D - then i'd RDP to my parallels desktop and VNC / screen share from there to my OSX desktop. I find RDP more efficient than VNC. - Jim Stewart

Used RDP on my Dell Axim X5 in 2002 and later on WinMo phones. I'm sure VNC does change the game for iPhone users, though! Nice! - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

If I use IE on the remote PC, VNC's sluggish compared to RDP (we use VNC at work). Is it any better on an iPhone? - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Charles H- It's the single biggest tech story of the last 18 months. No one is forcing you to follow Scoble, I follow Scoble cause I have the same interests and I envy that he gets to do what he does. When someone else comes out with something as revolutionary and exciting as the iPhone then we will discuss it. Would you like to discuss the latest Samsung offering and Sprint's... more... - Ryan Cates

I was using VNC on the iPhone today and it's cute, but almost entirely useless except in extreme emergency. - Patrick Lightbody

How can it be? Remote control of Windows and Linux systems has been common on windows mobile phones for years. again, I don't think the term "game changing" means what folsk think it means. - Soulhuntre from twhirl

It's news. It's not a game changer. - Ryan

Declaring game changing dead has jumped the shark. - Ken Sheppardson

I've been using my Palm Pilot with VNC to take remote control of multiple desktops for years, ever since the first Palm Pilot came out with WiFi enabled. I'm not impressed. - Aram Zucker-Scharff

Perhaps, but a more elegant client than MochaVNC is needed. - Alexander Carlill

Those of you pushing VNC and RDP must have never used Citrix. It's super fast, secure, and light, but unfortunately expensive. It's what businesses use when they're truly serious about remote access. Businesses like hospitals and gov't institutions use it to guarantee fast connections to only what the end user needs and is authorized to use. - Ernie Oporto

I think most serious system administrators would agree that the iPhone and VNC are not "game-changer" technology. Yea, maybe in an emergency and you need to check to see if the server/workstation is up. But we still need a full keyboard and 10 fingers to really work on a PC/server. Until they get that damn Minority Report interface out of research and into production, we gotta have the keyboard/mouse for most of our computing interactions. - Herschel

Dave Winer

A general observation for no one in particular --> Consider not saying out loud every nasty personal thought that pops into your mind.

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I can agree with that. Hide nasty thoughts, but reveal weird, innocent thoughts! - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

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Even people on the internet need to be reminded of something we were taught from childhood "If you can't say something nice..." - Candace

...say it in the New York Times." - Robert Scoble

@Robert, I wish I could mark that comment as LOVED! - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Another adage to go with that one: Choose your battles. - Dave Winer

Anthony - I'm not sure that's what Dave meant... You can disagree and not be nasty... - Internet's Tad

Of course this note attracted all of FF's resident trolls. Big surprise there. :-) - Dave Winer

@Robert - nice finish! I suppose you can also finish it with "..say it on the internet under a fake name." - Candace

I chose this battle. You advocate censorship and I disagree. That wasnt nasty. That was downright logical. - Anthony

What's with everyone getting so sensitive? First Scoble's filtering negative comments on FastCompany.tv, then Calacanis's departure, now Dave Winer's version of Rodney Kings famous "Can't we all just get along?". What's really going on? - Jim McCusker

Dave is showing what I have learned is the wisdom of age/survival at least that is how I see it. I felt like some geeky Don Quixote last night. Civility and common courtesy belongs everywhere. - Mathew A. Koeneker from fftogo

Along those lines is the old adage, don't put anything in email that you wouldn't be comfortable seeing on a 5' x 5' poster in front of a jury. - David Thomas

While the source (Jimbo Wales) makes it sadly ironic, I still love the quote: "be honest with me, but don't be mean to me." Sums up what I strive for in life communication. - Anthony Citrano

amen! - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge from twhirl

That is perfect Anthony. I hadn't heard that before. - Mathew A. Koeneker

Now that I am back inside. I agree with both of those adages if you will. - Mathew A. Koeneker

I would qualify Dave's adage: Go ahead and say it out loud, At home, in front of your computer, where no one else can hear it but you. Get it out. Then if you have a real argument to make about whatever or whomever pissed you off, do so. I guess my cliche is: Count to ten. - Rick Powell

Ya its really not classy. Now excuse me i have to poo - sean percival

troll bait tweet! ha, ha! ... also laughing at Sean's post above. - Susan Beebe

There is a time and a place for everything. One should choose one's recipients on the internet for anything that may upset carefully - i.e send any risque stuff to only those that find it funny and not offensive, just as you would (or should) in person - Ian May

with lack of power comes great lack of responsibility. - Derek Tutschulte

Mother always taught me "pick your battles..." and I tend to agree. - David Andrzejewski

Don't cut the iPhone line like Scoble did! You get people pissed off! http://seesmic.com/v... - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Saw a calendar hanging on a mechanic's wall, two guys shaking hands. The caption: "Courtesy is the lubricant of good business." - Oldengrey (Jay)

Freedom of Speech doesn't mean that it's mandatory that you let every little thought fall out of your brain and into the world via your mouth (or keyboard.) Just because you can do something doesn't always mean you should. - Lucretia Pruitt

Lucretia! Awesome. You should run for President. Freedom of speech also includes freedom to STFU. - Dave Winer

You say something stupid, it will come back and bite your ass! Maybe you are upset with someone today for something, why not let it go! But if you willing to say it, be ready for the consequences, right or wrong is irrelevant! - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

I can't believe how great the quality of our trolling is here on FriendFeed! - Dave Winer

Dave we here to please! I am just going to add a "Jew" to my nic! Igor The Jew Troll. ;-) - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Dave: i don't see any trolls here. Oh, yeah, I block the jerks, which probably explains why I don't see them. - Robert Scoble

Oh Robert the Jerk here! Hey Robert why did you cut the iPhone line? You are too good to wait with other people? - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Robert just for curiosity, are you Trolling me? I get to see a lot of you lately! It is like a a Whale Shadow is following me. ;-) - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Robert: Thanks. :) As I have only blocked 1, I think that means that I can see every comment. They have all been quality. But I wonder if the message got to the recipients that Dave intended or if they ever saw the great responses. (I know that you said no one in particular.) - Mathew A. Koeneker

Mathew A. Koeneker when you block people based on over people opinions not your experiences with that person what does that make you? - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

I saw nice things to those that deserve them, I say mean things to those that deserve those and I say really, really mean things to the people who beg pretty for me too... that stuffs a privilege :) - Soulhuntre

Dave Winer

So far there are two people on my mail list. Me and Scoble. Oh the humanity.

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It's just like a phone call! - Robert Scoble

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And Scoble will subscribe to a Sunday supermarket circular if he thinks it might come up in the conversation. ; ) - DeWitt Clinton

Maybe time for you and Scoble to cosplay? - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

DeWitt is right. :-) - Robert Scoble

Well I'm pretty sure Scoble's on every mailing list by default, but why are you on your own mailing list? - Zach Underwood

Dave are you going back to your roots like Jason Calacanis? You still have your 36 baud modem? LMAO - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

I promise to only read that mailign list on my TRS-80 Color Computer with my old acoustic modem. It's so much more "intimate" that way. - Soulhuntre from twhirl

LMAO - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Are you using ListServ or Majordomo? Ah, the old days were so much simpler. :) - David Andrzejewski

Robert Scoble

...discuss this stuff. Nuclear is used all around the world with no probs.

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Doesn't the coal industry heavily fund the anti-nuclear activists? - Internet's Tad

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I wouldn't say no probs. What about waste disposal, and the facilities required for storing it, not to mention the danger involved with storing radioactive isotopes underground. - Mo Kargas

nuclear has tougher regulations then other energies, it's just when something bad happens...it's really bad. - clarke thomas

Dumping coal for Nuke power can give us the time we need to develop the technology to safely deal with nuclear waste and mature solar energy production. We need to quit dumping carbon into the atmosphere! - Internet's Tad

@Tad, agreed, but there needs to be an immense investment in infrastructure - Mo Kargas

In addition to disposal, what about all the pollution from drillling, mining, and enrichment of uranium? - Cheezz

I've read up some on the newer generations of reactors from GE and some of the pebble bed reactor technologies as well. I really like the fact most safety systems are passive, so if things get out of wack, it causes the reactor to shut down due to its design. We've got to do something for energy, there is no free lunch, so nuclear waste will have to be dealt with. It is a great supplement to solar and other renewable energies until we figure out fusion. - Dean Clark

Another issue with nuclear power is water. A lot of water is used in the process. - Michael Carter

Sean - Chernobyl was a horribly designed reactor that wasn't properly maintained. I believe I've read somewhere that most modern designs can not fail spectacularly like that. - Internet's Tad

Mokargas - the investment needed is just a tiny fraction of what the US is spending to fight an irrelevant war in Iraq... - Internet's Tad

What do folks think about this? http://www.pickensplan.com/ - Jason Wehmhoener

Nuclear is preposterously expensive. Never mind the safety issues. - Chris Baskind

Sorry, I should elaborate. T. Boone Pickens thinks the midwest could be the Saudi Arabia of wind, and that if we supplanted our natural gas usage with wind, we could use natural gas as a domestic transportation fuel. So, what do you think? - Jason Wehmhoener

Jason: regarding that video you posted, there was an article in National Geographic regarding oil / petroleum in Russia and how they are planning to build underground tunnels to transport it. Toss in South American countries (Chili and Venezuela for example) into the equation, it terries me when the U.S. is being bypassed in talks. We're all economically interconnected and at this point, it wouldn't be smart for the U.S. to consider other options.. - Mona Nomura

Link to the article: http://friendfeed.com/e... - Mona Nomura

Wind/Solar/Tidal/Hydro/Geothermal are all better alternatives. Need to do more in energy storage rather than just creation as well. - Andrew Smith

Hi Mona, sorry, I'm being dense, "consider other options" than what? - Jason Wehmhoener

Not being dependent on foreign oil? - Mona Nomura

It's not used around the world. Australia is nuclear free except for one small reactor used for research and to make medicine. Polls show that 95% of people here don't want nuclear power either. It's the one thing nearly everyone agrees on. - Duncan Riley

Jason - I like the Pickens plan. It looks like it may be the easiest thing to do in the quickest amount of time to help come up with better alternatives. I'd love to see some serious leadership from Obama concerning this along with massive government investment in ramping up solar research. - Internet's Tad

Robert: you grew up same era I did... things like 3 Mile Island, Chernobyl and "China Syndrome" were used to scare us out of Nuclear Power and to continue consuming from the oil & coal companies. We are children of the media generation. Unless our children are raised w/o that prejudice, it will be perpetuated. - Lucretia Pruitt

I think energy diversification is the key. Look at what happens when you rely so heavily on one source of energy. - David Andrzejewski

What's funny/sad is that the antinuclear crowd is helping to keep our older reactors online by stopping any advancement in building better, modern, safer reactors. - Jason Shultz

@Duncan Riley Yeah I don't really want reactors here unless *maybe* they get a lot cleaner and safer. That said I don't want other nations dumping waste where I live either, so overall I'm not enjoying a nuclear prospect for Australia. - Mo Kargas

I also liked this: "Decoding the World's Best Energy Policies" http://www.worldchanging.com/archive... - Jason Wehmhoener

I lived on a Nuclear Submarine for years and trust the technology - brant

I'm more excited to see the progress of the Climate Savers Computing Initiative (Intel, Google, MIT, Microsoft, etc) http://www.californiagreensolu... - Mona Nomura

@Tad - You are right that Nothing like Chernobyl could happen here. That plant had no sheild against radiation or meltdown. None. The worst problem we have had here was 3 Mile Island, where no one died or got sick. We have much much much better facilities than the Russians did or do. Chernobyl and 3 Mile Island are boogie men that scare us away from a really amazing and cheap and clean power source. - Andrew

How can we ensure that nuclear energy is not used to make nuclear weapons? Isn't the cost of nuclear power plants extremely high? - Jason Wehmhoener

uhhh... doesn't the US has the most nuclear weapons world wide?? - Mona Nomura

there are no problems NOW, but what about in 10 years, 50 years. All that radioactive waste has to go somewhere, and it will eventually come back to haunt us. - Jimmy Little

@Jason, I don't think you can 'ensure' it. Especially as said weapons already exist, and the nature of international politics means there will always be countries which will seek weapons either as a deterrant or bargaining chip. - Mo Kargas

Mona, yes, and that's a problem. - Jason Wehmhoener

@Jason Wehmhoener - Nuclear power is cheaper than all other forms of power generation. It is also cleaner. - Andrew

Most countries secretly CYA.. If nuclear resources can be used effectively and efficiently, then I'm all for it. Especially for teh U.S. since most people don't care at all about our environment. Maybe tossing in "nuclear" would give energy efficiency a 'cool' ring so people aren't so close minded... - Mona Nomura

What about three mile island? You might want to check out a book by Jay M. Gould called "The Enemy Within" in which he attempts to map some of the health effects linked to our current nuclear dependence (energy and weapons testing) including increased cancer rates, increased radiation induced immune deficiency and low birthweights. This is for people just living in some proximity to nuclear power plants. I know this isn't what we really want to hear right now but waste isn't the only problem with nuclear. - Rafael Robayna

@ Rafael - There were no deaths at all associated with the 3 Mile Island incident. http://www.nrc.gov/reading... - Andrew

From that article "Several independent studies have also been conducted. Estimates are that the average dose to about 2 million people in the area was only about 1 millirem. To put this into context, exposure from a full set of chest x-rays is about 6 millirem. Compared to the natural radioactive background dose of about 100-125 millirem per year for the area, the collective dose to the... more... - Andrew

I also want to point out that there are currently French plants that recycle waste in such a way as to get energy out of it twice. Now this technology isn't very fresh but it does exist in infant form. Imagine where it will be 50 or 100 years from now? Think about how far nuclear technology has come in the past 50 years. To think about the waste in terms of thousands of years is crazy when considering the energy potential in the waste and the growth rate of this science. - Andrew

With other, much simpler, alternatives rapidly approaching viability, why would you want to deal with the headache that comes along with nuclear fission processes? - Geoff Schultz

Geoff - Which alternatives are approaching viability? Wind is great but most of the US doesn't have enough clear spots to put turbines. It is all private land or parks. This is the same problem that Solar has. We can't cover our parks in these machines. And solar in particular is not a very efficient source of power. Most of the potential energy is lost before conversion. So Nuclear makes a lot of sense. I say this as a fan of the technology though I'm thinking about buying some stock tomorrow. - Andrew

It's cost prohibitive right now and storage/disposal is a major nut that just hasn't been cracked. Not legitimately, at least. - Preston Koerner

Well as demonstrated by the UK here recently a shortage of land can be overcome by using an abundant amount of open ocean area. Other technologies to consider are geothermal, tidal, solar(every rooftop is available area for panels) and a much sexier version of nuclear energy fusion. Fusion being my number one reservation regarding fission(build a bunch of billion dollar plants who will be rendered obsolete in every way to fusion in the next 50 years). - Geoff Schultz

Geoff - Are you talking about those smaller Nuclear reactors that they claim can't have meltdowns? I have only seen those referenced once by a friend who is a nuclear engineer. If that is what you are talking about, I would love to read more about them if you know of an article. - Andrew

@Andrew before you go any buy any more stock you might want to take another look at that document you linked for me. The area around three mile island was/is primarily rural farmland. Where did they find 2 million people to sample in 1979? Also, according to that document, 1 millirem is almost a normal daily dose of background radiation. This makes 1 millirem sound like an intentionally diluted number. - Rafael Robayna

I remember reading a story about a Toshiba branded home style Fusion reactor. Pretty sure that is more than a few decades off, hehe. However France has won the bid to build a nuclear fusion reactor expected to be completed in 50 years or something http://news.bbc.co.uk/2... - Geoff Schultz

You may have also noticed a lot of renewed interest in going to the Moon, that is partly because its surface has collected large amounts of Helium 3. He3 is the easiest known material for nuclear fusion but is pretty rare on Earth. (just an interesting side note) - Geoff Schultz

Steve Rubel

Extending Battery Life On The iPhone 3G - http://www.informationweek.com/blog...

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I hope he was kidding when he said 12 hours between charges... - David Andrzejewski

my post was better than mitch's - Allen Stern

Steven Hodson

I wonder if *any* other company had come out with the iPhone if they would be getting the free ride that Apple does when it comes to things like the battery life and the host of other problems that people have experienced with the 3G version

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Yes. I have two Nokia phones and one Microsoft-powered Samsung phone. They all have the same problems and many more. - Robert Scoble

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I'm with Scoble on this one. I know it's wrong, but I'm just not above being amused that iPhoners are now complaining about the same things we Windows Mobile users (can I just call us wPhoners?) complained about before there was an iPhone. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF from NoiseRiver

Agree with Robert. MyNokia B73 gives me grief all the time. - Roberto Bonini

doesn't Microsoft on mos of their new releases? - R. Ferguson

@minimage: I'm sure it's amusing :) but I think there's a thought that Apple would somehow figure things out and show them all up. Now we know it ain't so! - Robyn Miller from NoiseRiver

I disagree with Robert. None of those phones have the popularity nor cult following that the iPhone enjoys (presumably because of problems like those). Even though other phones share similar problems, they are less popular because of them, while the iPhone isn't - Thomas B

The problem is that almost everyone (that I've met at least) that has an iPhone thinks it's the best phone ever made in *every possible respect* (which it's not) and that all other smart phones suck in comparison (which they don't)... when you have that mentality, you get pissed when something goes wrong, it's almost a blow to your ego. - David Andrzejewski

jobs juice is available in 3 sizes - Allen Stern

Damn I was actually considering buying one this time. If/when I do I'll have to have power cables in every venue like I do now with my T-Mo MDA workhorse. Solar charger this time as well. :-) - Jim Stanger

Just carry plug-in battery packs in your briefcase. You can get a day's worth of 3G iPhone usage with less than a 10 pound lithium ion space pack. - Bernie Goldbach

The Twitter iPhone... - Hutch Carpenter

played around with someone's 3G iPhone for a couple of hours. Phone works fine, sometimes you just have to reboot. - Robert Seidman

I agree with Scoble - first of all, I don't see a "free ride" - I'm hearing tons of iWhining this weekend. And second, I'll take the iPhone issues over the other sets of issues that come with the alternative platforms. - Anthony Citrano

The only smartphone phone that I have not had battery issues with is the BlackBerry. You will continue to see this because the "push" technology that MS uses (and Apple licensed) is dependent on maintaining an open connection between the exchange server and the phone. The core use of the system (mobile email and push calendar) is engineered to be very, very good on power. Microsoft's is a hack. A very good, clever one, but it shows. - Andrew Feinberg

Steve Rubel

As the iPhone begins to resemble and be used like a computer, we will have to contend with challenges like crashing and battery life.

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Don't forget the viruses :) - Nir Ben Yona from twhirl

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Already had that happening before,but yes, it's getting worse. I've become adept at whipping out a charger when I'm near power - Robyn Miller

excuses excuses - steve got a large "jobs juice" this morning - Allen Stern

I usually describe my iPod Touch as a pocket computer that can also play media. The iPhone is a pocket computer that can also be used as a phone. - Michael Connick

You serious about crashing iPhones??? - Roberto Bonini

@rbonini, I have had to do a hard reboot at least once every other day. It sometimes takes me a minute to even get it to respond to a power button hold, and then longer because I can't move the slider. - Robyn Miller

totally agree. Heres a test report on smartphone battery life under 'mobile internet' conditions. http://tinyurl.com/5mbr89 - Steve 'Chippy' Paine

Battery life is the major hurdle the mobile phones need to conquer. - Muthu Ramadoss

Do we need Intel to come in to picture for the processor at least with better performance and less power consumption. I think the processor has to scale up before these phones can smoothly support all the pc functions - Umesh Kakkad

I predict the next iPhone will have a multicore processor - Alan Cheslow

I been hearing the battery story for 5 years now! iPhone is nothing new, it is a PDA with Windows CE! Solve the battery problem and stop lying how many hour it will hold charge! You lucky if you can finish a DVD on a clean charge? - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

I cannot use the Camera or go into Photo album right now on iPhone - both crash every time. Starting a restore... - Sean Alexander

The current iPhone has multiple processors. It has 3 ARM chips in it. 3G may have the ARM multi-core chips. Not sure. The power draw isn't the processor, it is the network, screen and GPS. This is why it lasts longer when that stuff is off. - Kevin Goldsmith from twhirl

Yes, just do not watch movies, no surfing the net, and no GPS! Is this like 8 years ago? Voice and SMS? - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

I wouldn't put up with that - #1 priority is reliability - it's a phone first. What happens in an emergency and it's frozen? - David Andrzejewski

David: all my phones have crashed at some point or another. It's one reason why I carry three phones. - Robert Scoble

I don't use phones. I like that. the joys of being unemployed is I don't want it. - Noah David Simon

how about microcomputer rice cooker? can it crash while cooking? - Pajama Domain from twhirl

agree with Robert Scoble - my n95 crashes all the time, including while having phone conversation! - Pajama Domain from twhirl

I thought the iPhone ran BSD/OS X, not Windows Mobile - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF from NoiseRiver

The worst things about the iPhone are the charge time and the inability to search email by author - Seth Shapiro

my N95 never crashes - Ivan Pope from twhirl

Robert Scoble

How do you know someone is smart? I've been thinking about that this morning and looking back at all the conversations I've had and one common theme is smart people talk to you about ideas, not about celebrities.

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Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie would certainly agree! - Internet's Tad

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What about people who share stupid ideas? Like Free Enegery, most conspiracy theories, many political statements, etc etc... - Internet's Tad

Robert, I like this and totally agree :) - directeur from NoiseRiver

Tad: even those people are still smarter than people who tell you about what Britney Spears did last night. - Robert Scoble

You could replace "celebrities" in that sentence with "names of people". In other words, it's ideas and concepts that are important, not egos. Even "nobodies" can have egos. Narcissism shuts out the world beyond the self, we can't learn if we are always holding up a mirror, never looking beyond it. - Jason Wehmhoener

My dad once told me that even the dumbest person in the world can teach you something because he probably knows something you don't. - Jason Shultz from twhirl

Smart people listen more than they talk. - Randy Hall

To me the smart people are those that make a well-reasoned argument for and idea and then do two things. 1. Have the guts to put it out there to the world and 2. Have the guts to change their mind if they're wrong (or hold their ground when they know they're right) - Morgan

I think it all depends on the topic you're discussing. I'd say someone is smart if she can engage with you on the discussion and make you think about it from a different angle. - Bruno Pedro

Jason: it's one thing if I tell you "Doug Engelbart had dinner at the Ritz last night." It's a whole nother thing if I tell you "Doug Engelbart told me that xxxx idea is interesting and he's working on making that better." - Robert Scoble

I absolutely agree, Randy. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)

Duncan for example is a smart guy, but still talks about celebrities, so it's possible to do both and still be smart - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Which reminds me I need to talk to you about an 'idea' at blogher. ok. not really...more about which cam to get for the conventions. lol - Erin @queenofspain

I agree... This is especially obvious here in LA... although sometimes the celeb mention is the nature of the business -- or at least mention of -- as Calacanis would say -- "webebrities." - Andy Sternberg

Jason: that's true. I have yet to meet someone who is able to communicate (I have a friend with a mentally retarded son who isn't able to communicate, so we'll leave him out of this) who I couldn't learn something from. Randy: exactly. When I fail as an interviewer it isn't because I'm listening, it's probably cause I'm talking. - Robert Scoble

Andy: when you talk to the smartest people in Hollywood they talk to you about ideas. Trends. People's work. They don't talk about "I saw Tom Cruise at dinner last night" or "did you see what they said about Oprah in the tabloids?" - Robert Scoble

Robert: I agree. The point I was trying to make is that we can learn something from almost everybody, even those who we may think know less then us. - Jason Shultz from twhirl

I think one can be smart and still talk about "Weird Al" Yankovic, because he's smart. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF from NoiseRiver

Dobromir: Duncan's best work is when he talks about ideas. That's why I love Duncan, cause he tells me who has the most interesting ideas, and he's very willing to debate ideas (I've debated a few with him). - Robert Scoble

I think people can be both highly intelligent and pretty stupid at the same time. Robert Anton Wilson said it better than I can, "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases." And that doesn't apply to just religious dogma - any kind including political, scientific, cultural, etc. - Internet's Tad

Robert Anton Wilson++ - Jason Wehmhoener

this is a cool thread! we need a lightbulb "intelligence meter" on FF - users vote on how smart you are based on your posts... bulb gets brighter with more votes! - Susan Beebe

Susan: fantastic idea! Now that's smart. - Bruno Pedro

I have a theory that being smart is simply a matter of the attention that you give somthing. Granted, Nobel Prize winning physicists dont grow on trees. - Roberto Bonini

smart to me is someone who knows what they know but more importantly knows what they don't know - too many intelligent people who never make it to smart because they are too busy broadcasting what they know - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

That would give credence to the old saying “if smarts was electricity that boy couldn’t light up a 10 watt bulb. “ - Moved to Facebook

Social media is about inclusion, don't alienate too much with your labels and boxes - Michael W. May from twhirl

I've found smart people treat being smart like fight club: rule number one is you don't talk about being smart. Rule number two is you don't talk about being smart. To Jason Wehmhoener's point, smart people don't spend their time making a point of how they're wrapped up in smart things or "look what a good person I am for talking to x or doing y." - Mark Trapp

Smart people usually start talking by conditioning everything - and the first condition is for them to say they are not an expert ... - LPH™ and his dog P™

How do you know that someone isn't smart? - mjc from twhirl

Smart folks understand questions are important, they are not afraid to admit ignorance and appreciate that learning is a process not an event. - Dave Martin

LPH: hmmm, the ultra smart like Douglas Engelbart (who really is the true visionary I've spent time with) just paint pictures in your mind of how the world will be someday. He never said he was expert at something, just talked about how this new world would work. I could listen to that guy for hours. At 82 he's easily the smartest person I've met. - Robert Scoble

Michael: that's an interesting question. The biggest way I've found? The only skill not smart people have is in ripping down other people's ideas, or, worse, trying to rip down other people altogether. - Robert Scoble

Robert, put it another way: smart people talk about the world that could be, not that the world that is? - Mark Dykeman

"No one who cannot rejoice in the discovery of his own mistakes deserves to be called a scholar." - Donald Foster - Roberto Bonini

Smart people simply can get the job done faster and pay attention to the hidden details that others would miss. I still don't know how to best test for it, though. - Ben Parr

smart people are visionaries, humble and most likely pious too. Take a look at the peoples who are deemed as being smart. These are some of the comman attributes of these type of people.! - Peter Dawson

I think it can go both ways-Charlie Rose talks about both-ideas are great, but what is with the people behind those ideas - that's very interesting! I also think its a natural human instinct to talk about others - it depends on the context. "I saw Tom Cruise last night" is the lowest common denominator. Inquiring about the dynamic of Shell's latest barrage of public vitriol and the work ethic of others in the Valley are spurned from natural human curiosity that we all share, whether we ask it or not. - j sven

+1 for Paul - Steven Hodson

Robert: ”Smart” here as different from ”Intelligent” – I have one story that will help us out here to identify a smart person. I had a friend at high school that knew he was not that intelligent, but he was smart: - he used to research old exams to see what the previous year tests would possibly cover on the upcoming exams. He used to collect all class notes from the top “dedicated”... more... - Joao

@susanbeebe: I dunno, I'd feel pretty hurt when the system took away my lightbult entirely. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF from NoiseRiver

@regila: all this for a "bob"? ;-) - directeur from NoiseRiver

I remember my dad once telling me what Eleanor Roosevelt said... "Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people." - Brian Sloane

the first sign that someone is really smart... they will tell you they're not but they will show you they are. - Scott Lockhart

I'm not saying I'm particularly smart, but I truly find celeb gossip one of the most uninteresting things I can think of. - Ian May

I think that smart people are the people that get things done. Imagine two people that have never heard or met each other and both of them come up with the exact same brilliant idea. One person brings the brilliant idea to a reality, while the other person doesn't. Which person is smarter? - Rishabh Mishra (p248) from NoiseRiver

Plug for the "highfalutin" room: http://friendfeed.com/rooms... if you want to talk about things with depth - Ňicķ

maybe true...but everyone is smart in their own right. you might be a social media whiz but not know anything about putting in kitchen cabinets. I'm a firm believer that everyone has their sweet spots in terms of knowledge. The really smart ones, just take the time to expand that sweet spot so it's more than just a spot and more like an area. - Don Martelli

I think a smart person can talk about both. That way he/she can converse with all people and not make anyone feel less smart than them. - Adrienne Van Houten

Adrienne: I agree with that. But smart people never start out that way. - Robert Scoble

What an awful generalization. That's how I know when someone is smart. When he doesn't make an implied generalization like "stupid people talk about celebrities". - Jay Cruz

smart people think through questions and give full answers. who talks to you about angelina jolie? i agree anybody asking scoble about that is "not as intelligent," but probably nice people...unless they have no idea who you are....maybe they ask you these questions: "is veronica belmont really cute in person? or is kevin rose really a ladies man?" however, smart people are not always smart in all aspects of their lives... - Pokai

"Smart people talk about ideas. Common people talk about things. Mediocre people talk about people." -Jules Romains - Joe Lencioni

@Jay: You spelled know wrong. - Daniel Smith

For the record, that was a joke ;) - Daniel Smith

Thank's @Daniel Smith - Jay Cruz

You know when someone is smart when they know what they're talking about and they have a good understanding. "Smart" people grasp things better and/or have ideas. - Kevin Porter from twhirl

Smart is not about opinions ("Stupid ideas"). You can be smart and have different beliefs. I'm wondering if they are "smart" conversations or just engaging conversations. I'm much more interested in sharing ideas than sports scores, gossip, or transitory circumstances. - Barb Gonzalez

Ugh. Most of these comments seem to prescribe behavior to those who are "smart" - one of the only commonalities I've ever seen of truly smart people is that they make their own rules. To say they only talk about X not Y or they listen more than they talk or any other behavioral observation misses the mark with me. Smart people don't subscribe to other peoples' ideas of what they should be. - Lucretia Pruitt

Smart people realize how little they know but have no need to try and convince others that they know a lot. - Dossy Shiobara

Scoble, no one is "smart" or an "expert." It doesn't really matter at all. The only thing that matters is how people preceive someone to be. My blog, http://onlyjames.com/ is constantly growing, so I believe people to think I am smart. Then again, I might be a complete nutcase. :D - James Mowery from twhirl

I think you can define smart a few different ways as well. I think the question you're really asking is "How to determine if someone is INTELLIGENT?" - David Andrzejewski

I have noticed that they seem less likely to urinate in their pants than the general population - Seth Shapiro

I wish I understood this. - Michael Markman

Takes a long time of knowing someone and seeing how they react under differents sets of circumstances. People are smart in some ways, but not in others. - Francine Hardaway from twhirl

When I hear the word "celebrity" I now think of Sarah Austin's Pop17 which come to think of it Robert, you have never acknowledged that I know of. Her site is about a new kind of celebrity. For her, and for me, the interesting celebrities are people who become famous because of their outstanding work. And she does not attempt to ask about shallow tips or favorite colors, but rather about their work. The people she tends to interview are micro-celebrities small in size, but important. - Andrew Baron

Smart people don't brag about how they can recognize smart people. - Rutger Blom

I enjoy people who talk about other change-makers in the world. People who point me towards amazing & influential musicians, dancers, physicists, politicians, chefs, etc... Sometimes the geek-world is a little heavy on ideas. I enjoy hearing about the life history & paths of unusual chemists, religious leaders, and environmentalists. Just as some of my friends have more "aesthetic sense" than others, some are unusually attuned to remarkable people, and some to innovative ideas. - Mitchell Tsai

smart people just know - Pokai

@ Scoble, once again you've hit a collective nerve with this thread. it goes back to what makes us human? "i'm not human without you"- Desmond Tutu re: Umuntu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... communities like friendfeed should be a place where we explore these types of questions, there is enough pablum out in this world already, thanks for pursuing this line of questioning. - michael sean wright

I have an idea in that I'd love to get Britney Spears on Twitter - I think that would do wonders for her career. ;) - Jesse Stay

Is smart a measurement of intelligence or emotional quotient? One's intelligence is measured and quantified, like it or not, whether intelligence is synonmous with smart, that maybe another question. One can have emotional quotient as well i.e. street smarts and it too is measurable. Intelligence is not dribble. Intelligence, for me, is the generation of ideas with vision followed by implementation. Intelligence has many forms as well albeit plasticity or crystallized. Good nature versus nurture question. - ka3drr

I'll answer with this: the people's intelligence that I most desire and respect are the ones who are able to bring reality to the "out of the box" ideas they have. Plenty of people can speculate, but very few have the competence to bring a good idea to the rest of us. - Tony

depressingly true... - Stephen Roberts

I still have no clue who these A-listers are that people talk about but I'm interested in ideas both from other people and also sharing ones I come across. Celebrities? Phooey, give me an original thinker any day. - Sally Church

Hmmm, how about... Methinks "smart people" think about having conversations with people (aka "intellectual celebrities") with whom they can talk about ideas and... Sigh... It still goes back to Howard Bloom: http://users.ucom.net/~vegan... —I'm a Zen Buddhist, but I still do think "God" is fair... As in, I can brainstorm pretty well, yes, but I'd die in the Aussie outback if you put me there. :P - asepsotic

Thats a great observation. If only we could make those ideas a reality :) You are a fun guy to talk about ideas with. - Christian Burns

Is this where we talk about Paris Hilton ? - Eric Berlin

Eric: my niece says Sean Faris is hot. I don't even know who that is. Off to the Google for me! :-) - Robert Scoble

I think I have a trump card. go look at The Inquisitr..there's some pretty intelligent posts on there and, also talk about celebrities. You can tell someone you are talking to is smart by the way they treat the subject at hand and, how they deliver their portion of the conversation. - Candace

Funny you should mention him, Robert. I'm working with a website, and he's one of our celebs on it. The odd part, for me, is that we have all of these B+ list celebs, and I don't know any of them. - Bradley McSpinn

I put it to you that smart people talk about people rather than ideas - Jim

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