google video sucked, whereas greader is the leading rss reader on the market.
- xavier vespa
If it keeps going like this, we might back to where we were, trusting our data and good old Desktop apps
- Tejas Patel
My policy is to do my best to back up everything I need if a service was shut down. I don't use Gmail to archive anymore, I save files on my hard drive. I back up my feed list from Reader. I export from Evernote. And I don't keep any important documents on Google Docs. Everything gets backed up to my server at home, and to the cloud (rsync.net).
- David Andrzejewski
If it was on Twitter than it must be true. Anything on FriendFeed, however is up for debate ;-)
- Andy Sternberg
I know two people who thought the MacBook Wheel was real...
- Dean Clark
Conspiracy nuts already go in circles. Part of being schizophrenic is going in circles. Around and around all the way down the rabbit hole.
- Chrimmus Tad
Half my office thought it was real Dean...
- Chrimmus Tad
Wait, the MacBook Wheel isn't real? I just pre-ordered one from a Nigerian Prince.
- Kevin Bondelli
I suspect me and @enroc are the only real people on Twitter. The rest is Robert Scoble and all his aliasses. No. Really. I read that in a newspaper. So that is really true.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Dean - score! You now know what to get them for their next birthdays :)
- Micah Wittman
My tin foil hat keeps Scoble's tweets from entering my brain directly. :)
- David Andrzejewski
I pick up Robert Scoble's tweets via the iron fillings in my teeth.
- Chrimmus Tad
See, that's funny, because I have this Facebook friend who has a Twitter follower who has a 3rd cousin who worked as MS who said Scoble was a 3rd gen AI bot. No lie...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Twitter search is disabled. I'm sure it is Bush's fault.
- Dean Clark
@Tina You forgot to mention that the Facebook friend works at a yogurt shop.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
everything you read on the internet is most certainly true, is it not? are you trying to inject a little sarcasm in your answer?
- Scott Jarkoff
Tad: 5 tons of flax says Robert is really Hagbard Celine in disguise.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Aluminum pull-tabs STILL buy one minute of dialysis because the costs are set by the man.
- Christopher Harley
After getting laid off the first time I quickly started believing conspiracy theories. I blew off all the conspiracy things when I worked there, but it turned out everything we were imagining was true. If we could imagine it, it was probably, and turned out to be true. Since then, even out of the job I'm much more prone to believe, or try to at least understand things people claim to have heard or seen or believe.
- Jesse Stay
every one believes in some thing ridiculous, its just that "conspiracy nuts" are brave enough to say their's out loud.
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
I believe conspiracy theories are a conspiracy of conspirators!
- Kevin Leroux
It's interesting that the Bush 43 administration and neoconservatives have been the foremost purveyors of false and demolished conspiracy theories over the last eight years. Just a few of the delusional assertions: 1. Saddam Hussein and Iraq were behind 9/11 2. Saddam Hussein and Iraq were behind the 9/11 anthrax attacks. 3. Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda were behind the 9/11 anthrax...
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- Sean McBride
@scobelizer so you and "Kindle Gate"??? I've now lost my faith in humanity
- sofarsoShawn
Governments around the world spend many billions of dollars each year both to engineer and to uncover real conspiracies -- what line of work do you think that agencies like CIA, MI6, Mossad, ISI, FSB, etc. are in? Smart people take real conspiracies very seriously -- they have a powerful influence on human affairs. Many bogus conspiracy theories are the handiwork of government agencies...
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- Sean McBride
Just like in the movie MIB. All the supermarket tabloid stories are actually true; we've been conditioned to not believe them.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Sean: I like your take on things... aligns with my views... I would like to subscribe to your newsletter, but your FriendFeed will probably have to do for now. ;-)
- Chris Heath
P2OG (Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group) was of course a mere literary invention.
- Sean McBride
Chris -- one of the most interesting and challenging intellectual activities available to thinking human beings is separating out real conspiracies from conspiracy theories, and especially separating hard conspiratorial facts from deliberate conspiratorial disinformation. Conspiracy theories are often the conspiratorial artifacts of real conspiracies. :) That's a concept that's too...
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- Sean McBride
A few real conspiracies (among thousands explored by reputable, mainstream political analysts and historians): Bernard Madoff, Gulf of Tonkin, Iran-Contra, Jonathan Pollard, Watergate. Do you have any doubt that prosecutors are now developing various conspiracy theories about the Madoff operation? This is what they are paid to do; it's their job. But they try to nail down their theories with facts, and let the facts lead their theories.
- Sean McBride
People who get this stuff are not easily bamboozled by official misinformation and disinformation. They keep their criticial and skeptical intelligence intact, which is a very far cry from blindly embracing any conspiracy theory that comes down the pike. Most conspiracy theories are disinformation. Many of the best mainstream historians conduct conspiracy research on a regular basis. Historical research is largely the enterprise of cutting through official lies.
- Sean McBride
I wish people would care as much about things that really matter and affect the world. But hey, let's pretend there isn't a bailout we should be bitching about, a economic situation we should be more deeply investigating and a chance for change in our country that we should be rallying for. Caring about the wrong, irrelevant and sometimes silly things is exactly why we lived in a country that is presently a little fucked.
- Patricia
And what forces produced the bailout and the current economic crisis? Is there a conspiratorial dimension to the bailout in particular? Certainly its operations have been shrouded in secrecy. Why? Inquiring minds want to know. Where is this money being allocated? Who benefits? Who are the key players controlling the bailout? What are their affiliations and interests? What does their social network look like?
- Sean McBride
I now think you are part of the conspiracy to hind the conspiracy!!!!
- John D Reasor
the Apollo never landed on the moon
- sofarsoShawn
Certain elements of the military-industrial complex used the Iraq War as an opportunity for war profiteering. Conspiracy theory. :) And: certain elements of the military-industrial complex played a key role in engineering the Iraq War. And Dwight Eisenhower, who first raised alarms about the military-industrial complex, was a "conspiracy theorist."
- Sean McBride
Wait, what are you hiding? Does that mean everything is not true? <head explodes>
- mikepk
Everything I've stated in this thread is disinformation. :) (Actually, it could be.)
- Sean McBride
Just in time, as I've just moved all my Google Notebook notes to Evernote.
- Rob Haas
Sad about notebook, although I don't know why. I used it for a few hours, said "this is cool, I'll use it all the time," and never used it again.
- Gregory Cohen
I am honestly surprised about Jaiku. I thought Google was going to try some thing with it. You can probably assume that leashes are much shorter these days on these sort of ventures.
- Rolf Schewe
What?? Notebook is one service that is actually useful.
- Morton Fox
Google is doing everything right lately IMO. Shuttering areas where it doesn't hold a core skill and focusing on things that it does well.
- AJ Kohn
You always use Evernote instead of Notebook and post to the cloud
- Sally Church
@Sally Evernote won't be around in a year or two either, unless they get acquired
- Steve Rubel
Dang, I understand the reasons, but I like Notebook :/
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Gmail is ad supported, clearly invested in and a driver of search. It's sacred. Now how about Google Reader? It doesn't make Google a dime! I wonder what its future is.
- Steve Rubel
It'll be interesting to see. I'm thinking maybe little AdSense boxes at the bottom of every few articles? Or perhaps a side bar like Gmail? Or... maybe they'll just shut it down :(
- David Andrzejewski
It's been a while since I read the gReader privacy policy, but it cold be a *bonanza* of information qualifying its users. You are what you subscribe.
- Chris Baskind
dammit...I used Notebook as much as I did Reader! What other free alternatives are there?
- JA Castillo
@JA Gmail. Check out my nerve center series.
- Steve Rubel
The way I read the Google Notebook blog, it is not going to vanish. We can still use it. Google just won't allow new users. Is this the correct interpretation?
- Steve Dittmore
@Steve Sounds like it. But why bother living in something that's not loved.
- Steve Rubel
Shutting down video? Not nice, there are videos that people link to.
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
So that will be one less option for Surfulator users that don't feel like paying for an upgrade.
- April Russo (app103)
it's not shutting down Jaiku though, that will stay around...going open source
- Zee.
Steve why do u say that about Evernote? About it not being around in the future?
- Zee.
Zee, do you have a reference for that ? I see secondary sources saying things about Jaiku, but can't find anything official.
- Michael C. Harris
Michael, I'm on my iPhone but click the link in this post through to the official google post about Jaiku
- Zee.
@Steve Rubel, Evernote just got a good round of funding, and has footholds in a lot more platforms than Google Notebook. I will be surprised if they don't keep growing, especially when people have finally realized their name is a misnomer for what they actually do.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
@Lindsay, Evernote will be acquired. That's my bet
- Steve Rubel
Evernote also has paying customers. I don't know how many, but I know that I happily paid.
- Joey Gibson
I hope they're not, Steve, or if they are, it's not by Google. I would be heartbroken if it languished and died the way almost all the other things I like that they've bought have. @Joey, I paid for my subscription and bought 2 gift subs for people for Christmas gifts... and turned Tad onto getting a paid sub too. They have a pretty loyal following and their services are worth paying for.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Shocking news! I really love Notebook; am using it extensively to prevent information-overload..
- Winston Teo
Jaiku was always doomed without the SMS short code. But I really liked notebook.
- Chris Mayer
we haven't got SMS for Twitter here in the UK though Chris...and it's growing ridiculously fast here
- Zee.
SMS to Jaiku was working just fine last time I tried.
- Michael C. Harris
At least they're going to keep Notebook active ... they're just stopping development.
- Brandon
Not Notebook, damnit! What am I supposed to do with my Notebook stuff now? :(
- Tanath
And indeed still does work. Perhaps "SMS short code" means something else ?
- Michael C. Harris
@Tanath Best I could find was to export to Google Docs. You have to do it for each notebook and it creates a single Gdoc with all of the items in that notebook.
- Warren Butler
Notebook was (is?) really good but needed offline access. E.g using Gears.
- Warren Butler
didn't think jaiku would last that long. twitter is far superior
- Alex Carpenter
I wrote off Jaiku months ago. And after Evernote, Google Notebook paled in comparison.
- Phil G
Have you tried Evernote, Jennifer? It's really good.
- Phil G
Phil, yeah I've tried Evernote...even have the iPhone app...but Google Notebook was a great fit for me...more than a little bummed
- Jennifer Van Grove
No big surprises here. Sad to see Jaiku go. It was good having a competitor to Twitter. Keeps the game fun. RIP Jaiku
- Sloan Bowman
Looks like Jaiku is going open-source. In which case it might rise to be even bigger than before. And as for Evernote - hey they have a pretty good revenue model. They're here to stay.
- Leo Laporte
so my theory that Jaiku has been bought as missing ready-made geo-data (BTS coordinates) for Google Mobile Search seems more or less plausible by now.
- A.T.
I wonder if they are going to get rid of video for Google Apps users too? I could see getting rid of the public Google Video since it competes with YouTube, but Google Apps video has a different purpose.
- Rob Boek
google notebook is awesome! why discontinue that?
- Kelly Johns
Notebook seems particularly suited to their mission statement. It ought to be improved, not discontinued.
- Tanath
I'm disappointed by the drop kicking of Notebook. You spend the time tagging entries with meta data, then poof, you have to deal with converting it into another system/workflow. I just did "Export to Google Docs" as an escape hatch move, but it's not the tool to gather new clippings entries.
- Micah Wittman
Ugh, I have quite a lot of stuff in Notebook.
- jjprojects
I wonder if *any* other company had come out with the iPhone if they would be getting the free ride that Apple does when it comes to things like the battery life and the host of other problems that people have experienced with the 3G version
I'm with Scoble on this one. I know it's wrong, but I'm just not above being amused that iPhoners are now complaining about the same things we Windows Mobile users (can I just call us wPhoners?) complained about before there was an iPhone.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
from NoiseRiver
Agree with Robert. MyNokia B73 gives me grief all the time.
- Roberto Bonini
doesn't Microsoft on mos of their new releases?
- R. Ferguson
@minimage: I'm sure it's amusing :) but I think there's a thought that Apple would somehow figure things out and show them all up. Now we know it ain't so!
- Robyn Miller
from NoiseRiver
I disagree with Robert. None of those phones have the popularity nor cult following that the iPhone enjoys (presumably because of problems like those). Even though other phones share similar problems, they are less popular because of them, while the iPhone isn't
- Thomas B
The problem is that almost everyone (that I've met at least) that has an iPhone thinks it's the best phone ever made in *every possible respect* (which it's not) and that all other smart phones suck in comparison (which they don't)... when you have that mentality, you get pissed when something goes wrong, it's almost a blow to your ego.
- David Andrzejewski
Damn I was actually considering buying one this time. If/when I do I'll have to have power cables in every venue like I do now with my T-Mo MDA workhorse. Solar charger this time as well. :-)
- Jim Stanger
Just carry plug-in battery packs in your briefcase. You can get a day's worth of 3G iPhone usage with less than a 10 pound lithium ion space pack.
- Bernie Goldbach
played around with someone's 3G iPhone for a couple of hours. Phone works fine, sometimes you just have to reboot.
- Robert Seidman
I agree with Scoble - first of all, I don't see a "free ride" - I'm hearing tons of iWhining this weekend. And second, I'll take the iPhone issues over the other sets of issues that come with the alternative platforms.
- Anthony Citrano
The only smartphone phone that I have not had battery issues with is the BlackBerry. You will continue to see this because the "push" technology that MS uses (and Apple licensed) is dependent on maintaining an open connection between the exchange server and the phone. The core use of the system (mobile email and push calendar) is engineered to be very, very good on power. Microsoft's is a hack. A very good, clever one, but it shows.
- Andrew Feinberg
I've dreamed about tweeting, but it certainly has never manifested itself in the real world!
- Robyn Miller
I've often thought of a twitter for dreams, maybe there is already a twitter in the dream world. I will look next time I am there
- Mot Faerin
You know you've Twittered too much when...
- Randy Hall
Not to troll... but I have 6 email accounts pushed to my BlackBerry and am signed onto 3 IM services constantly, along with regular talking and web browsing... I can still go 3 days before having to charge it... Shouldn't need to be disabling things just to make a phone last through the day!
- David Andrzejewski