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I have a confession to make. I just saw The Daily Show and The Colbert Report for the first time :) Good stuff - Stewart, especially, had a good go at Fox News ! - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

@Ahsan: Wednesday's Daily Show was great, Stewart ran Cheney into the ground in 3.50 mins: http://www.thedailyshow.com/video... - Rene Wirtz

Interesting. Semantic web stratifying, unifying and ultimately destroying the web. The stratifying, unifying sounds like an undesirable potential side effect of Greader's new "bundle" algorithm. - Brad Kligerman

cheers Robert, I've commented over there (in short: it won't "Think", but it'll help us in thinking/decision-making) - Danny Ayers

There are as many semantic models of the world as there are individuals and groups at any given time. View the world through as many different conceptual lenses as you fancy. That's another vision of the future of the Semantic Web. The dominant global consensus model may well be wrong on a regular basis. - Sean McBride

Good point Sean. You view of a semantic result may not be my view. - Robert Miller

"Semantic" will be defined as something much less than it is, and victory will be declared. - Cliff Gerrish

Models of social networks and semantic/conceptual networks will merge into a single knowledgebase on the World Wide Web. That is going to happen for a certainty, barring an asteroid hit or some other unexpected act of God. :) Everything is nicely on track to produce this technology. - Sean McBride

Sean and Robert, agreed. Everyone's semantical "view" has a flavor, a collection of "minor truths" but not the whole fullness. - Melanie Reed

It needs more semanticists, linguists, essayists, prosers & poets to particpate - Phil Boiarski

Sean, we can't even agree on what the <description> element in RSS means. I don't see things as being on track to making the web into a unified knowledge base. Computers relating disparate databases? I think it will only happen with a lot of manual human help. Basically what Cliff said. Or, as Peter Norvig put it, "The Semantic Web will always be the future of the web." - Bruce Lewis from fftogo

"Free Beer Tomorrow" (FBT) Have you ever seen this sign in a bar? I really do hope the semantic web delivers on TBL's initial vision, however it seems like it has become FBT over the last couple of years. - Jim Posner

It'll probably just start self-promoting itself like the rest of us. - Brian Ries

SemWeb is, in many ways, about leveling the information playing field. it's not so much about defining things, but defining ways to share - quickly and cheaply. like FF, but more than just a few elements. as for GOOG, decentralization and democratization are the only viable counterbalances to power and money. they're meager weapons, but when yielded consistently often enough by enough people, can be quite powerful. - MikeAmundsen

I agree with Mike. SemWeb is just another layer of structure for data so that it can be better arranged, linked and accessed; an enhancement, not an upgrade or replacement for existing data. It's pervasion will be determined by its usefulness. So far the promise sounds pretty useful, let's see where users take it from here. - Igor Goldkind

Much of the Semantic Web could be constructed now simply by tweaking existing databases with a few simple scripts. - Sean McBride

@Sean: IMO, SemWeb is not about storage, but about sharing/use. while it's true data could be output to match the RDF patterns relatively easily, until more tools *use* RDF, until more web servers *understand* RDF, it's still just another standard on a shelf somewhere. the RDF spec is close to 10 yrs old and has yet to make a serious impact in web users daily lives. - MikeAmundsen

Mike - agreed that RDF isn't going to close the deal. - Sean McBride

I agree with Mike. We've got tons of data laying around all over the web waiting to be used. Another form of markup doesn't change that situation. - Jason Wehmhoener

Just marking up new data and texts would work just fine in getting the show on the road. HTML reached critical mass long before most of the world's documents were retroactively HTMLized. - Sean McBride