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FriendFeed Blog: You can now share files on FriendFeed - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
Joshua, david beckwith, HealingBrush and 596 other people liked this
"To share files on friendfeed.com, simply click the "Files" link underneath the post box and select which files you want to include. You can also share files by including them as attachments on emails sent to share@friendfeed.com."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
That's the new hawtness!
- Alex Scoble
wow
- michael sean wright
whoa!
- vijay
SEKRIT PLANZ! MWA HA HA HA
- Josh Haley
Excellent news, thank you Bret and guys! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
the game just changed
- chrisofspades
Haha! Nice...
- WorldofHiglet
nice
- endiaferon
This feature will help with using FF solely as a email mailing list.
- Kol Tregaskes
Now we just need page branding and some enterprise integration, and we can replace Sharepoint...
- sean andersen
Plus as a mail client too (kinda of anyway). I will have to get auto-forwarding my emails to my ff.com address again.
- Kol Tregaskes
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. i'm trying to be coherent but that's all that's coming up. Thanks... whats the file size limit?
- Frankie Warren
this has awesomesauce all over it
- Alfredo
is video an option?
- Zee.
We have a rolling 24-hour limit for the number and size of files you can upload, but you probably shouldn't hit it unless you are sharing really big stuff.
- Bret Taylor
Are the files public when accessed via direct link? Or do they require authentication?
- Mark Trapp
No video at the moment, Zee.
- Ross Miller
Bret, will this work for attachments sent to share@friendfeed.com?
- chrisofspades
So tell me, how will you send email verification emails to new users when FF has successfully replaced email? </paradox>
- nickrw
nice!
- Mike Bracco
So, no BluRay rips, then :p
- Josh Haley
Mark: right now they are public when access via direct link (though the links are not at all predictable).
- Bret Taylor
Yes, file attachments to share@friendfeed.com work as you would expect.
- Bret Taylor
Very Nice
- Brent - Loving Life
neat-o!
- t i n y m
Bret - is music an option?
- Zee.
WIN
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Any other files that don't work with it?
- Kol Tregaskes
What's the file attachment size limit?
- imabonehead
Kol: i assume you can attach video? it just won't play in-line? or did i misinterpret that?
- Frankie Warren
@imabonehead, from Bret's comment above: "We have a rolling 24-hour limit for the number and size of files you can upload, but you probably shouldn't hit it unless you are sharing really big stuff."
- Dan Hsiao
@Dan, thx
- imabonehead
Liked Liked Liked (*99999) "You can now share files on FriendFeed" This is.. GREAT!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Frankie, video attachments aren't currently supported
- Dan Hsiao
Frankie, Ross says no to video, see above.
- Kol Tregaskes
MP3s?
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol: there is a stricter limit on audio files (3 per day).
- Bret Taylor
Yay, no more rapidshare! :)
- Kaan Ertürk
OK, but any format?
- Kol Tregaskes
I tried it with both a txt and a rar file but neither seemed to work (the message was posted without a file attached). [Update: works now for me]
- Philipp Lenssen
Gonna give a big W00T!! to this before I even read the whole thing...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
LOL, Tina.
- Kol Tregaskes
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
Perhaps we need a list of file types (and their limits) that are supported?
- Kol Tregaskes
Tina++, Holy Crap! :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
music files work! awesome! example here http://friendfeed.com/fredyga...
- Alfredo
Bret: What about attachments to comments?
- sean andersen
Swwwweeeettttt!!!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Now all I need is a number where I can call and leave a VM that gets changed into an audio file, and I can get rid of drop.io for good! Yeah, we're never happy are we? Sorry....
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Greatissimo :)
- Stanislas Jourdan
Bret, does animated GIFs now work btw?
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks for the clarification on video :) how long will the files stay on the server?
- Frankie Warren
Tina - Perhaps if we leave a VM for the FriendFeed IM bot on Google Talk? That would rock.
- Mitch
Can we paste URLs into the box like we can for images?
- Kol Tregaskes
Seriously, guys, when and where do we start donating?
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'd prefer buying private shares, Akiva. :)
- Carlos Ayala
I think you can support them by buying the FF swags.
- imabonehead
cool
- Siavash
and sharing from URLs works! - http://ff.im/4o1RY
- chrisofspades
NIIIIIIIIIIICE
- Pedram
Pair this w/ a private room and you have instant office and/or project collaboration. Drop.io may have some competition. :)
- JA Castillo
JA, agree.
- Kol Tregaskes
Chris, cool. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
All we need now is a calendaring system and support for source code.
- imabonehead
mp3 sharing works in FriendFeed? Just when I'm thinking to share some 'musiclets' from time to time via Tumblr! mhh.. interesting, really!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Thierry, yep MP3s are supported.
- Kol Tregaskes
this is awesome, i was literally just trying to do this last night on one of our team feeds and had to post links to published google docs instead. going to try it out now. it's like they read my mind.
- Mike Elliott
Kol...we use Drop.io all the time here at my office. This would be great as it is supremely simpler. But approved file types and sizes needs to be understood.
- JA Castillo
Mitch, that would be an option, but I can only imagine the opportunity for the wrong voice file to go to the wronge feed...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
And Akiva is right...where do we start donating?!
- JA Castillo
If we had basic HTML support for first comments on FF, it could almost be used for mail (at least for forwarding and reading mail to and on it).
- Kol Tregaskes
JA, a list of supported file types, limits and sizes is needed... please. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Cool stuff
- Tyson Key
Any limits on the number of times a file can be downloaded, per day, out of interest?
- Tyson Key
Reminds me of Pownce :) Great addition!
- Holger Eilhard
NaFFster! :)
- jcunwired
Does this mean that the days are numbered for various Pownce clones and Jaiku? Facebook, start your photocopiers! ;)
- Tyson Key
this is GREAT!
- Cee Bee
Now cue Facebook adding this feature in 3.. 2.. 1..
- Daniel Sims
Yay! Friendfeed is yet another step closer to complete emulation of IRC :)
- Victor Ganata
Hey Bret, are these virus-checked?
- Jordan Hofker
@Jordan - good question
- andy brudtkuhl
Jordan, good shout.
- Kol Tregaskes
The moment I read this I updated my AV program.
- jcunwired
Are the shared files located in the enclosure tag of the feed? And can we filter feeds by enclosure type?
- Cliff Gerrish
Jordan- yes, we virus scan them.
- Casey Muller
Cool, Casey. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
LOL Victor ... true that. Well done FF team.
- Amani
from IM
Awesome, thanks Casey.
- Jordan Hofker
Cliff- only media files (images and audio) are included in feeds at this time.
- Casey Muller
Haha, Victor. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Uh, question two: how long before one of the **AA's gets all pissy? That would be sad. Is there a size limit?
- Jordan Hofker
search by file type?
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason, good shout.
- Kol Tregaskes
Jordan - what is **AA's ??
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
This will go a long way in convincing some of my Yahoo Groups to move to FF. Although we must have a list of file types supported, retention times and also if there is a max number of d/l's.
- Gil Francisco III
This is awesome but I'm also concerned about the type of people this might bring to the FF community.
- Johnny
Gil, I'm seriously considering moving my Y!Groups list members from there to FF.
- Kol Tregaskes
This is one of those features that people don't complain about even though they didn't ask the community prior to launching ;)
- Frankie Warren
Dare I ask about Boobies.jpg.virus.exe? - Oops Casey says they are virus scanned
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Jannifer: RIAA and MPAA, specifically. Say someone shares a copyrighted song or something...RIAA gets cranky.
- Jordan Hofker
Am I the only person that thinks this is an incredibly bad idea?
- Jason Nunnelley
.m4a files sent from the iPhone's Voice Memos feature aren't given a player but are making it through the mail to FF feature. Any support for a player coming down the line?
- Christopher Harley
How about .zip s that are password-protected? Reject I hope... (edit) .zip not supported at all, I gather, good!
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
yeah search by filetype absolutely! filetype:pdf, filetype:mp3, filetype:zip, filetype:doc etc.
- Nathan Chase
Christoper: (via Bret) "Unfortunately we only can play back MP3s at this point. The iPhone voice memos are in M4A (AAC), so we really want to support them, but it is a bit more difficult with Flash and our media setup at the moment."
- Ross Miller
\m/
- metalerik
abi allah tuttuğunuzu altın etsin **love**
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
Jason, I might be with you on this one.
- Johnny
This is nice! Very nice!
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Yippie-kai-yay :))))
- A.T.
Thanks, Ross. The paid app, iProRecorder http://www.iprorecorder.com/ suffers the same limitations.
- Christopher Harley
NICE!!! Been waiting for this... thanks FriendFeed team!
- AJ Batac
Cool! FF is becoming more of a platform of choice for me. Thanks guys :)
- Dilip Dand
Very Cool !!!
- Eric Logan
I'm not sure that I'm going to use that feature (I rarely share docs over the internet that weren't created in Zoho or GDocs, anyway), but still it looks pretty neato.
- Miss Elle
Bret, do you have any restrictions to protect against music filesharers etc so you do not become an RIAA target?
- Travis Koger
@ Travis: I was just wondering the same.
- Brian Chang
Bret Taylor, a friend of mine uploaded 1 mp3 and it disappeared. Now he can't upload any mp3 file, seeing a [The "" file type is not supported]. Broken message?
- Jason Nunnelley
"You can only upload 3 audio files every day. Please try again later." Too bad because I was really just trying to see what files worked. .wav aint one of them. No audio notes from Evernote, iPhone, iProRecorder. I soooo want to love this but It's not doing what I need it to do. This feature needs to support some kind of multi photo post with a recording appended to the message. That should be right out of the box. Video needs to come right behind it. Music is cool but citizen journalism is even cooler.
- Christopher Harley
seriously useful.
- Calvin Ayre
I haven't tested this but, how exactly are you determining audio file types, just using the file extension. If so there is a work around with a simple file rename, an example would be if you change an .mp3 to a .pdf and let people rename it once it becomes local on their machine. EDIT: This workaround would also allow video to be transferred.
- Jimminy Fuller
Maybe I don't know enough, but doesn't this kind of open the door to slipping malicious code to unsuspecting users?
- Fleagle
this is the best thing I know this morning when I open my eyes, well done!
- K.D.
that is AWESOME!
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Fleagle: It is possible that someone would do that but FriendFeed is fairly well self monitored. It is still a small group of people in comparison to other networks.
- Jimminy Fuller
Glad for this feature, though perhaps close partnership with Box.net or similar could keep FF storage costs better contained? Not criticizing, just hoping Core Team doesn't get distracted by extending (and babysitting) commodity services. Keep up the great work!
- michael silverton
Kudos on the added features!
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
可以分享文件，friendfeed更好用了。
- 老巫师
哇塞，这个强的。 I like it.
- xiawinter
Wow. Just wow. Thanks.
- Laura Norvig
NICE! Thanks for the info.
- Cyndi ~ @muchmorethanmom
Tell us more. Tell us EVERYTHING about the file "FF secret plans.pdf" shown in the blogpost <http://friendfeed-media.com/0fe9b6e...>.
- ianf ⌘
Oh, very awesome!
- Scott Magdalein
It's *machine code*.
- Karl Knechtel
Karl: FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
So we can setup private groups and share questionable files ? :)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
That's pretty much what I was saying, Ahsan. I did one earlier as a test to prove my point, (NOTE: it is a clean file, direct from Revision 3) at http://friendfeed.com/jimminy...
- Jimminy Fuller
Excellent! Thank you!
- Diego Barros
"Rapidshare Fined $34 Million for Copyright Infringement" (http://mashable.com/2009...)
- Ozkan Altuner
Hmmm @Ryo, good catch, posting directly from Android to FF your voice messages, would be cool!
- Ozkan Altuner
Can we tell the lawyers that they "won" and give them all the money? Then start over with a new set of I.P. laws and a new currency? Pretty please?
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Must you force downloads on HTML files?
- Raphael, Raphael
This is great. I'll try this instead of posting to Ipernity.
- Rick Cogley
Seems like a good step in the right direction indeed the concerns are founded based on previous experiences but it is a good start.
- Ubuntu101
Is it possible to set it up as part of the feed like a podcast?
- Ubuntu101
Excellento - inline playing of mp3 files at last - this will be dangerous. But is there are limit??
- Chris Loft
embedding mp3's is just fine when it works .. I've been trying to get a podcast rss feed I have setup imported for the past 8 hours straight only to find out that each time it's not importing squat.
- John Blanton
from twhirl
I take that back it worked once but everything in the description tags showed up twice.
- John Blanton
from twhirl
:( Apparently not *.pdn files (Paint.Net)
- Raphael, Raphael
Thx! FF continues to rock :)
- Krishnamoorthy
why the limit on audio files?
- Tyler Gillies
Can us folks with Symbian OS-based devices have some Adaptive Multi-Rate codec/AMR file love, too? I believe that some Samsung and NEC phones also use that audio file format...
- Tyson Key
Oh, and Google Earth KML files, and Ogg Vorbis files aren't supported right now either, for what it's worth. Still, it's a nice idea, so far.
- Tyson Key
wow :)
- Mucio
I'm disappointed that the PDF of your secret plans is only 1.2 mb. Surely there's more?
- Dnl
anyone know the file size limit?
- Julian Seery Gude
My old Motorola Que made .3gp files too. Facebook can process them. You want to be at least as cool as Facebook, right?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!
- Micah Wittman
FYI Micah, it works with *.user.js files... you know what that means...
- Mitch
*happy dance* this is really innovative and highly useful...thanks FF :)
- Susan Beebe
oh heck yes
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Tried to share an .hta file with Micah yesterday....couldn't attach it. Tried to zip it and still couldn't attach it. Ended up tossing it in my dropbox and posting the link. :-(
- April Russo (app103)
LOL at the FF secret plans.pdf!!
- Darren Heydon
Inbox2 - http://www.inbox2.com/
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Jason, Brian, ümid urmuli and 31 other people liked this
Scoble is raving about Inbox2. It looks like an Social Network Aggregator within an Email Client.
- Russellreno
from Bookmarklet
This is friendfeed style")))
- K.D.
>>> The spreading use of the Internet makes Email Inbox already your daily friend to communicate with. Apart from writing and receiving Emails, we have unconsciously given Email Inbox many other roles. By studying on how people want to use email and their daily interaction with data, Inbox2 is aiming at eliminating the current Email applications' barriers that prevent users from working in a highly flexible way.
- Russellreno
i need invite code , plz send to miladz at gmail dot com tnx
- Mil∂d
Go to Inbox2 for invite code.
- Russellreno
i went there , it got email address just ,i cannot waiting to try it !!!
- Mehdi saberioon
Looks interesting.. as I never used my email Inbox as a simple.. inbox. (That's why I miss some of my unfiltered e-mails ;-))
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
wish I had an invite.hmmm....
- Rohit
looks pretty cool, signed up and waiting for my invite code.
- John Spyers
When do you think they'll send out the next round of invite codes?
- Miss Elle
Hi there, this is Waseem from Inbox2. We will probably send out invites in a couple of weeks, follow me on twitter @waseemsadiq or @inbox2 if you want to keep up-to-date
- Waseem Sadiq
okay this looks really interesting .. request for beta done .. twitter follow done .. now for the waiting :( :)
- Steven Hodson
@Waseem Sadiq -- Thank you for being so responsive to our queries. :)
- Miss Elle
Tiananmen Now Seems Distant to China’s Students - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
Yunus Yalçınkaya, John Lam, Aaron Berman and 7 other people liked this
"And if a student today proposed a pro-democracy protest? “People would think he was insane,” said one Peking University history major in a recent interview. “You know where the line is drawn. You can think, maybe talk, think about the events of 1989. You just cannot do something that will have any public influence. Everybody knows that.” Most students also appear to accept it. For 20 years, China’s government has made it abundantly clear that students and professors should stick to the books and stay out of the streets. Students today describe 1989 as almost a historical blip, a moment too extreme and traumatic ever to repeat. But whether democracy still inspires them is a more complex question."
- Ana
from Bookmarklet
"One senior recalled an excruciating roundtable discussion with foreign journalists who visited Peking University in 2007 and asked about the government crackdown on student demonstrators in 1989. “They always ask about this June 4 incident, and we just keep silent,” she said. “It is not because we don’t want to talk. It is because we have no idea what exactly happened!”" It's true. A lot of students in China really have no idea what happened that day, or they assume it was "just some protest". =(
- Darren
It's weird going to the Genentech intranet and not seeing the stock price there.
Dan McCall liked this
Import Your Old Hotmail Messages into Gmail - http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009...
Nick Mutton, eHoteliers, Christian Saunders and 49 other people liked this
Step-by-step directions in case you want to migrate from Hotmail to Gmail.
- Matt Cutts
from Bookmarklet
will it let me import my hotmail messages directly into spam? 'cause that's where 99% of them belong.
- Phil Maxwell
yikes I forgot all about my hotmail account!
- BEX
What I'd like to know how to do is to retrieve my old emails that Hotmail has deleted. Bastards!
- April Buchheit
+1 to April's comment
- Adewale Oshineye
Phil, it does actually properly filter the spam too. Unlike Hotmail, Gmail pretty much always knows spam when it sees it.
- Tony Ruscoe
Now I don't have to check that account anymore.
- Peter Stuifzand
+1010101 April!
- AJ Batac
Gustavo is at Genentech today doing a commercial shoot. Playing with the new 5D rented from www.borrowlenses.com.
Dan McCall liked this
I care about having an empty Gmail inbox; for Google Reader however, not so much.
Dan McCall liked this
I wish I have a empty Gmail Spam box,but my spams are 500+,they are always there.
- Steve Chou
@steve try this: http://gangles.ca/?p=63
- David Miller
Thanks,David,I am OK now with that Hide Unread Counts feature in Gmail Labs, I just wish Google can make most of those spam blocked since their system obviously know they are useless spams
- Steve Chou
I can't get over my compulsion to empty my Reader box and get the All Items count back to 0.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Mozilla gives the passionates one with Ubiquity - http://scobleizer.com/2008...
Chris Chua, Franklin Pettit, rob zand and 27 other people liked this
And what an awesome gift it is.
- Mo Kargas
Absolutely zero non-passionates as you call them will use the tool but the surge in passion is likely to go through the roof which should guarantee another couple of hears of the passionates convincing the non-passionates that Firefox is the best browser out there…which, if you look after it, it is.
- Zee.
I think that this is Enso (http://tinyurl.com/2hkjsd) for Firefox. I Like it.
- Ravindran Navaneethan
Reminds me a lot of Quicksilver for OS X, and that's a very good thing. I can't wait to see what scripts the community comes up with.
- John Giannakos
the best thing that has happened the browser world for a long time!
- net
Yes It's Enso. Mozilla Fondation hire the Enso team earlier this year to embed their products into FF
- Francois Lamotte
It woukd be awesome for them to integrate the Powershell engine with this kind of thing.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
GMail's fail whale - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Mohamed J, imabonehead, peter huesken and 25 other people liked this
Thanks, just asked for this. I like Twitter's better.
- CynicRoot
Got it here too.
- Steve Rubel
sadly seeing this as well... as I was sending an email
- Jim Goldstein
This issue has been affecting Google apps for domains as well; I've seen it pop up a few times over the course of the past week.
- George Favvas
Is down also for me. :(
- Dario Salvelli
OK... I thought it was just my account. I rock! I'm in the company of greatness.
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Yup
- Hutch Carpenter
Yup, me too.
- Anthony Citrano
Interesting... POP servers are still working in case anyone is interested.
- Jim McCusker
Me too.
- Aaron Myers
got it too... <vader>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!</vader>
- Tad
Both my Gmail and my Google Apps Gmail are down. That's new.
- Kevin Fox
Try Again or Sign Out ?? LOL
- Alex Sauceda
glad the stream (FriendFeed/Twitter) is still flowing. who needs email?
- JP Dubois
FWIW, I am able to access it via IMAP on my iPhone.
- Anthony Citrano
same
- johnpiercy
CN is reporting on the outage - please report in - http://www.centernetworks.com/gmail-d...
- Allen Stern
Anthony... try emailing to a non-gmail account that you have access to. Doesn't work for me, but incoming email still does via POP
- Jim McCusker
I just came in my office, looks like my open session is still working as well as my mobile session. EDIT: won't let me send e-mails. bah.
- Aaron Myers
same here dave ,, no gmail ...
- johnpiercy
from twhirl
have you guys tried logging in secure? (https://mail.google.com)
- Phil G
https by default, still no luck
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Down for me, too...ah, well. I guess they're allowed to, what with the whole "beta" thing and all.
- flammable
GMail and MobileMe both went down today. Maybe we're all supposed to stick with Outlook. :-)
- Louis Gray
Oops… the system encountered a problem (#796) - Retrying in 4:05…
- Morgan
Gmail is back up for me.
- Steve Rubel
frankly, this is the latest of my problems with gmail lately. the spam is ridiculous.
- eric mortensen
Back, working fine but only in iG home frame, GTalk still down
- Dave Martin
@Louis Gray Or FF and Twitter (when it's up).
- Nate Pilling
from twhirl
just got this. google word's it as if it's my fault that my account is "experiencing errors." afraid to say that systemwide errors are occuring?
- Andy Sternberg
from twhirl
Just tried logging in secure. Not working.
- Roberto Bonini
HTML mode is apparently working. Add "?ui=html" to get to it.
- Ambar Pansari
Via twitter: html interface works for some: http://mail.google.com/mail... inclu. me :)
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Same here. Both "public" and hosted GMail are out
- Caleb Epstein
zoblue: Thanks. Works for me.
- Roberto Bonini
I am so used to Twitter being down that I don't know what to day about a GLOBAL GOOGLE MAIL FAILURE
- Chris Abraham
from twhirl
Ambar: I can get to HTML too, thanks. But it's sooo ugly. = (
- Anthony K. Valley ©
will try the html interface, but this is SO annoying :(
- Iain Baker
I'm not having any problems with Gmail through pop3.
- Bluesun 2600
from twhirl
It's back now...
- Cem Catikkas
I tried to set up Gmail IMAP in Outlook today, so this could be my fault... it was pretty wonky when I did it, but overall was a huge fail. Thunderbird also fails with IMAP. Sigh. I blame Google overall - the IMAP reliability factor is garbage.
- Vince DeGeorge
Jott Reads Feeds to Your Cell Phone [Jott] - http://lifehacker.com/394748...
Casey, Susan Beebe, Hacker News and 6 other people liked this
This is a great tool to listen to your blogs comments
- Kevin Tunis
Jott is a great service. I haven't tried this but I'm really liking the "Jott for Blackberry" app, which lets you speak your reply to BB email. Very accurate if you speak clearly enough. http://jott.com/jotters...
- Erik Dafforn
... speaking of, when will "Jott to FriendFeed" be ready?
- Erik Dafforn
Jott is great tool and interesting SW but has been difficult to get working correctly on my BB Curve
- Tim FitzGerald
@ Eric - You could save your FF email address to Jott and use it to post directly to FF.
- Marshall Bose
eddie murphy's giant head on the interstate on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Tai, Andrea Baker, Justin Yost and 25 other people liked this
Wondering if that would flip me out if I was behind it ...
- Charlie Anzman
LOLS nice one
- John Spencer
from twhirl
that giant promo head probably costs more than the movie has earned
- Cee Bee
This picture makes me LOL!!!! Aaron, quit your instigating! Besides, I'm really a guy. Let the rumors commence
- Mona Nomura
No quicker way to kill a conversation, eh? Well, I suppose it wouldn't be too much of a surprise if I also revealed that I'm really a guy, too?
- l0ckergn0me
As a professional Driver, I've seen much scarier things on the highway.
- Paul W. Swansen
man u got a big dome
- jason
Haha If I saw this in person, I would crash.
- Anamarie
That pic is awesome, can't stop laughing! Your comments also are worth reading. Wow, I'm crying from it sight. I'll have the worst nightmares.
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
from twhirl
The funny thing is, I can imagine Chris pulling a stunt like this. ;)
- Daynah
That is some scary crap!
- Scott
Rumor has it the giant eddie murphy head whistles at tranny hookers...not to be confused with the giant ronoldo head
- Live4Emma (L4S)
here is the story. movie promo. http://www.meetdavemovie.com/areyoui...
- Rodney Rumford
omg i'm so sick of this stupid Eddie Murphy head! -hide-
- Mona Nomura
You started it, Mona.
- l0ckergn0me
I brake for transvestites!
- Tad
Circular gorge (900×643) [friday4th, Pixdaus] - http://pixdaus.com/pics...
![Circular gorge (900×643) [friday4th, Pixdaus]](http://pixdaus.com/pics/1215197736ngkL4Pb.jpg "Circular gorge (900×643) [friday4th, Pixdaus]") |
Yolanda, imabonehead, Rutger Blom and 15 other people liked this
Awesome!
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
Mahdi's comment +1
- Mark Forman
That's incredible.
- BISQ
Wish I knew. These Pixdaus people post 90% without references. I'd love to dump this picture into a "picture search" engine to find a match...
- Mitchell Tsai
i also like to dump many photo into a search engine and find many thing about them. is it a dream?
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
Mahdi: I'd love that dream also. Maybe someone has made one?
- Mitchell Tsai
Wow, it's amazing!
- fbrunel
Pixdaus has some ridiculous pics. DeviantArt is nice. I've got to start fishing the pictures from photographers' home websites. There are some incredible photographers out there. I wonder if I'll ever shoot pictures like these... It's more fun looking at other people's pics than processing my own (procrastinating habit is tough to kick). :-( My last 100 favorites - http://friendfeed.com/mitchel...
- Mitchell Tsai
i hope someone made it soon. DeviAntart is very good and attractive website
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
Ian_Boys (Flickr) has a different shot of Horseshoe Bend - Page, Arizona (3008x2000) http://flickr.com/photos... http://flickr.com/photos...
- Mitchell Tsai
Twitter Traffic Soaring In The UK - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
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The Twitter #'s seem to be very different than FF. On FF, I find that conversations don't really start until it's 9am pacific time. When posting from India, Europe, or even NYC in the morning it's typically *crickets* for hours until silicon valley wakes up.
- Jason Goldberg
Jason you need to make more European friends, you are right though, which is why I was asking for more UK FF users earlier today.
- Toby Graham
@jason - I think it's an accurate observation... there are people posting links but not a whole lot of commenting. I guess people either need to sleep or get some work done at some point.
- Scott Lockhart
It just goes to show that FF hasn't gained much ground beyond the confines of the valley yet. Twitter, however, is a worldwide phenomenon.
- Nathaniel Payne
network effects are a bitch :)
- tommy payne
Better than Post-its? Toast messenger, silver, New era gourmet cooking - http://www.coroflot.com/public...&
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[like] :)
- edythe
How cute would this be... if like you woke up with one? <3
- Mona Nomura
Where the hell are you finding these things!?
- l0ckergn0me
Then you can eat your words?
- Paul W. Swansen
Ok.. this one was.. Oversized Eddie -> wow he USED to be popular -> Boomerang (the movie) -> nice soundtrack -> speaking of, Michael Jackson had a whole junk of good albums -> Michael Jackson = ebay toast -> toast -> toasters -> i wonder if there are any fun toasters -> Google = that up there
- Mona Nomura
....that sounds really complicated but it was done w/in like 2 minutes. See how weird I sound? That's why when people ask I just say Googling is my hobby.
- Mona Nomura
that's totally ridiculous. and essential!
- Cee Bee
I think I ate one too many crayons as a kid HA
- Mona Nomura
That is bloody cool
- Michael W. May
It's cool but... I don't want my food telling me what to do >:(
- Outsanity
another awesome Mona find
- Tyler Gillies
:) @Outsanity, better than getting yelled at LOL
- Mona Nomura
Mona Linksa...
- sergiooo
from NoiseRiver
LOL
- Mona Nomura
+1 sergiooo
- Karim
"'PC LOAD BAGEL?' WTF does *that* mean?"
- Karim
?
- Mona Nomura
Sorry, reference to the recalcitrant printer in the movie "Office Space." http://www.youtube.com/watch... see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Karim
karim, :)
- edythe
Shame on me for missing that. Office Space is like one of my favorite movies.. ever. me = FAIL
- Mona Nomura
The STOP IE6 campaign - http://www.stopie6.org/index...
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Friends don't let friends IE6.
- Chris Baskind
from Bookmarklet
This made me laugh out loud
- Mona Nomura
:) I find that just saying "you won't get viruses if you use Firefox" (though false) usually gets most to get rid of IE6. Even if they use a new window for every page. (But then again, my friends are school guys. Not Corporates)
- Yuvi
Why bother with IE when there's an IE add-on for FF (FF =/= FriendFeed; FF = FireFox)
- Mona Nomura
You can't make a friendfeed without IE and FF
- Slappy Line
IE6 still comes in at single figures in my referral logs...I know I had to fight to make the site work in IE7, I'd hate to think about what it looks like in IE7
- Duncan Riley
28.6% of my blog readers use IE6... and to think they seem like such a nice bunch!
- Martin Bryant
I find that most of my friends don't want to bother downloading a new browser. Which is why they are stuck on IE. I make it a point to download FF on a friend's computer if I visit. I set it as the default browser and some don't even notice ;)
- Rahul Das
Oh this is gold.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
All of the PCs here at work still have IE6. A few of us in IT have switched to IE7, but that's it. I alone am an oasis of Firefox sanity.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Heh, IE6 is the scourge of the web, although this seems a little heavy handed. :)
- felix
@rahul I do the same and if they are averagely computer literate I use an IE theme and they are rarely the wiser!
- John Samuelson
Google Gets Into Mobile Messaging - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
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Baseball is America's pastime, but Football is America's sport. Is this debatable?
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WSJ: "Most Corporate Blogs Are Unimaginative Failures", http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech... most don't get traction.
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Not having read the report, my initial reaction to the headline based on my experience is that it is probably the outreach strategy, if that headline is true.
- John Cass
from Alert Thingy
My thought is that many corporate blogs push their agenda, without considering the readers first.
- Jeremiah Owyang
before Corporations blog, they need to understand (a) the clue Train Manifesto and (b) the market is luaghing, at them !!
- Peter Dawson
The power of social media isn't so much in giving the leadership an online megaphone, but to economically service niche parts of a company's business. If a blog doesn't generate some arbitrary number of comments... WHO CARES!?! If the blog is about an arcane technical topic... WHO CARES!?! Does it reach the right people? Does it get the job done?
- Phil Gomes
I'm sure they're unimaginative, but are they really failures? The blogs may be dull and provide little new information, but at least corporations are blogging. Isn't that a step in the right direction?
- Brent Newhall
Nice to have an employer which gives me pretty complete access to Forrester material. Mmmm, feel the learning :-D
- Justin Guy Souter
from twhirl
I read a reasonably good article somewhere that said the problem is that instead of finding the internal blog champions, companies push blogs out through their same constrained traditional marketing and communications channels. Also, I liked the Greg the Architect video, even if it is viral marketing for TIBCO.
- Richard Akerman
agree w/ richard that the companies that do blogging via their traditional marketing/communications group don't normally do a very good job of it
- mike "glemak" dunn
now for my reaction to this article - ben worthen of wsj did a terrible job on this one, title is linkbaiting, the report he references and that makes up most of the content is from forrester and is related to b2b companies only - i'm sure its a valid report based on a valid study but how ben could then extrapolate this into all corp blogs (including b2c companies) is beyond my comprehension - do journalism much ben? boy i wish i could get back the 3 minutes it took me to read his fluff piece and write this
- mike "glemak" dunn
I would like to 'like' Mike's comment.
- Brian Oberkirch
I've been foloowing EMC's efforts at enterprise 2.0, as blogged by Chuck Hollis, VP Tech Alliances. He gives great detail about how they're doing it. In this blog post, he talks about grooming internal employees as bloggers, and graduating them to interact externally. Also some very good thoughts about corporate blogs. http://chucksblog.typepad.com/a_journ...
- Hutch Carpenter
This is the article about corporate blogging I was referring to http://www.canada.com/ottawac...
- Richard Akerman
What's really ironic is that Forrester puts itself out as THE social media analyst firm. Which begs the question: WTF are they doing?
- Dennis Howlett
from twhirl
hutch & richard - those are two good links to thoughtful well done posts/articles on corp blogging - hope ben finds this thread so that maybe next thing he does for wsj is more like those (thanks brian btw)
- mike "glemak" dunn
We, not technology, are the solutions to our own technological nightmares - http://feeds.b5media.com/~r...
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Digg Recommendation Engine Rolling Out This Week - http://blog.digg.com/?p=127
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Web 2.0 gas prices - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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a politician who's out of touch with reality? Surely not....
- Andrew Terry
I just want to stay home and read Anathem. It's really good. Instead I'll play some of the music from the CD on @twitlive today.
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where did you find music from Anathem?
- Dan McCall
Why not call in sick and enjoy the day? I'm sure the boss won't mind. Wait...You are the boss! :)
- Chris Rodgers
My copy is on pre-order; I can't wait, but I'll have to; Leo, please avoid any spoilers!!
- mark dekruyter
You can't use Qik in the Oval Office but you can Twitter. How do I know that? Because today Congressman John Culberson met with the President and he said the Secret Service wouldn't let him do live video but he did Twitter from there.
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What's Congressman Culberson's Twitter name?
- Chris Rodgers
Oddly enough, xSk8rB0i899x
- Mark Trapp
thats a security breach - but trust me the NSA is tracking that twit !! :)-
- Peter Dawson
Now if they'll just stop planning our foreign policy in 140 character tweets, all will be well.
- Chris Baskind
Heh, the Senator told me that limiting politicians to 140 characters is a good thing.
- Robert Scoble
@johnculberson - http://twitter.com/johncul...
- Kirk Kittell
Chris, his twitter name is @johnculberson
- Jason Shultz
@Mark quality response!!
- Joe Dawson
Why do I find it hard to believe that the president who touts using "the Google" and the "Internets" uses Twitter? Lord knows, McCain has yet to master Windows solitaire.
- Chris Reed
Thanks for the Twitter link. It will be really interesting to follow a politician on Twitter.
- Chris Rodgers
I wonder if Obama will tweet from the Oval Office
- Mike Hussein Cohen
Robert: I recant. 140 characters might be just the thing. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
unfortunately you can't take pictures inside the West Wing either - WH press room is ok, Rose Garden is ok but not in
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Following. - Holy moly, he just followed me back (probably auto...).
- Vince DeGeorge
Picture the monkey in office Twittering launch codes... "Twitter is over capacity. Too many tweets! Please wait a moment and try to invade Iran again".
- Andrew Smith
I follow him also - Twitter name - #johnculberson
- Craig Thomler
Culberson was by far the best conversation of the day. He clearly loves his job and wants new technology to do it better, even if he has to learn. Amazing, amazing guy. Can't wait for his Town Hall tomorrow!
- Andrew Feinberg
wow, you guys had FUN!! so jealous... twitter in the white house holy cow! McCain is soo screwed!
- Susan Beebe
So Scoble is the Maxwell Smart of tech?
- Mark Forman
surprised they didn't just put a jammer on the the area
- clarke thomas
I'm sure we'll be able to sum up all the positive things the Bush administration accomplished in less than 140 characters.
- Kevin Shannon
About to find the John Culberson Twitter account now. Wonder what he's saying about the Scoble effect. :)
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
very cool -- like what i see... following Culberson now.
- Andy Sternberg
+1 Kevin Shannon.
- Mohamed J
very interesting to see that Culberson also follows you back- almost immediately unlike some of the other politicos mentioned in yesterday's blog post.
- Nathan Eckenrode
John Culbertson followed me back immediately and then we even tweeted. I am still unsure about the other two mentioned. I can't seem to find the rep from OH and the rep from AZ (I think) his tweets have the feel of a staffer. Bears another look today though. By far the best thread yesterday!
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I had a back and forth with Congressman Culberson last night on gas prices on Twitter; pretty amazing, really.
- Lee Stranahan
from Alert Thingy
I got an immediate followback as well-- Lee, great to hear he is genuinely on the service.
- Doug Haslam
from twhirl
Rep. Culberson and I don't agree politically, but it was civil and it was a real conversation - a couple of people DMd me and said 'wow! this is cool!'. Tim Ryan is a Congressman, also on Twitter - but he follows nobody.
- Lee Stranahan
from Alert Thingy
I disagree with just about all of his politics, but I love his twitter gumption. :) Go Culbertson!
- Jarrod Morgenstern
Scoblizing The White House?:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
A proposal for Twitter: Shut it down | Webware : Cool Web apps for everyone - http://www.webware.com/8301-1_...
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A well thought out plan. So not for Twitter then.
- Chris Nixon
Shut Twitter down and we may forget it ever existed.
- Morton Fox
..or open your bugzilla and let the community assist :)
- Naor Mark
Maybe they took the idea and ran with it... "The server at twitter.com is not responding".
- cmiper
@Tom seriously speaking - I still can't figure out if the problems are hardware related, infrastructure or architecture. spending some time in my past with tier 1 telco billing, processing both inserts and lookups of several millions "transactions" per day can be very tricky without the proper architecture in place.. here is where the community might assist
- Naor Mark
Ah, I see. I misunderstood.
- Tom Ray
Open Source Twitter??? Won't work unless the infastructure is right.
- Roberto Bonini
This is an interesting article, I've thought of it, but hadn't dared say it. I think we're all betw a rock and a hard place. Even if Twitter came back to 100 percent reliability, it would be a long time before confidence returned, if it ever would. For the 180th time this is why centralized communication systems suck.
- Dave Winer
Open source twitter? Ok, lead developers get in a fight and it forks: Twitter and Fwattr. Fwattr adds a ton of features but Twitter remains the same. Twitter development seems to stagnate and everyone moves to Fwattr. Fwattr devs reunite and merge back with Twitter. Meanwhile, there were 10 different standards developed throughout this drama. Yeah, let's open source Twitter. Now I'll turn around so I can promptly get tore to shreds..I couldn't resist, it's Friday :)
- Bwana ☠
@Naor- I agree -its very tricky to build industrial strength apps that sustain X transactions /min. Having a good farm of servers or the latest servers is just one facet of the solution. It all has to come together, H/w, architecture, network bandwidth etc. Do startups complete a due diligence review on scalability , watermarks,/ thresholds etc.Or just launch as quickly as possible and hope for the best ?
- Peter Dawson
Yeah, Opening up Twitter wouldn't be good. However, I'm sure that there are all sorts of people that could help Twitter right now.
- Roberto Bonini
The fact that everyone kicks off when twitter is down shows how addicted we all are. Those who can't put up with the outages will go elsewhere or stop using it. But they'll always have that feeling that the party is happening without them. Twitter, in the words of Lou Reed, I'm sticking with you. Cause I'm made out of glue.
- Gez
Gez, I call it..the Twitter loop http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Bwana ☠
If i was another social network, I'd be marketing like crazy right now.. plurk plurk...
- Dave Peck
Gez, we're just weaning ourselves off it bit by bit
- Andrea B
Twitter is dead if you shut it down now. People will leave to another service and once the become rooted in that service they won't want to go back. I don't see how shutting down Twitter would work....via feedalizr
- Chris Rodgers
@Peter, too often "just launch quickly" twitter is very visible so we all see what happens, but many others struggle with the same issues and loose customers (and make me loose my hair trying to assist :)) I can't blame them really, there is a lot of pressure from the funding guys and sometimes very bright young guys but with not enough experience, when it comes to large scale type of services I always advise to have "one gray hair" guy around and accept that planning ahead is not necessarily something bad
- Naor Mark
LOL @Bwana McCall :)
- Naor Mark
Shutting Twitter down would be suicide for Twitter and more of a headache for everyone who uses it.
- Sean Hanna
from twhirl
Dude. It's free. :) Nobody's entitled to anything but their opinion... and I'm not paying for that, either.
- l0ckergn0me
i'm thinking "failwhale" will end up going more mainstream than Twitter :(
- Iain Baker
...and we're back down.
- Gez
I totally disagree. Proof: Jaiku. It has totally lost it, since closing signups! I'm a big fan of twitter. My patience is not endless. But they created something amazing. I still love to evangelize it.
- DC Crowley
"A well thought out plan. So not for Twitter then." hilarious!
- Rich
it is definitely hard to convince my friends to use it since every time I try and demo it, it is down.... not very convincing.... my only problem is that I've got everything already syncing with Twitter... I don't want to have to do it all again, so I guess the bottom line for me is that I hope they fix it
- nick carrasco
The downtime is still exaggerated. Barring a few isolated examples there haven't been a plethora of examples of it being down for long periods. The fact that I still use it on a daily basis, and have rarely been unable to do that, suggests it's up a lot more than its down. Not that it's perfect, but the flaws are overstated.
- Robin Cannon
from twhirl
be it because I'm using Twitter off-peak - because I'm in Europe - or because I use clients (thwirl and twibble) I haven't really seen a lot of the much-touted downtimes. so whats with that?
- Günther Mulder
from twhirl
i agree with gunther - twitter in european day time is seamless!!!
- Denise Young
How likely is it that the 3G iPhone will be in stock tomorrow?
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I would guess not very likely. I think they'll start selling in a couple weeks.
- MG Siegler
But I hope I'm wrong :)
- MG Siegler
By "in stock" do you mean everywhere or anywhere? If a 3G iPhone is indeed announced tomorrow then I'll say 70% they'll have some in stock at at least some of their stores.
- Tad
I'm with MG, though I hope he's wrong too. And on the one hand I hope they *do *go for $199, but on the other hand if that's the case my gen 1 model just turned into a paperweight!
- Robert Seidman
I bet they're available by the end of the week.And many of the 1st buyers will be iPhone Gen 1 users. What happens to all those old iPhones?
- Rich Casey
@Tad I mean this - should I be prepared to go to the Apple Store after work?
- Steve Rubel
Online? Good. At big stores? Decent. At my podunk Apple Store? Slim to none.
- Cyndy
@rich - they go to heaven of course! http://venturebeat.com/2008...
- MG Siegler
I say the old iPhones represent a huge opportunity for someone to start up a gadget subscription service to service those folks who weren't early adopters. They can get a still sexy-as-hell iPhone for a fraction of the price of what they were new. Either that or they can all go onto eBay. :D
- Tad
LOL MG, but I'm not sure they turn into heavenly iPhones unless you jailbreak them. Right now, you can't sync an iphone that hasn't been activated on AT&T and use it as a regular iPod w/o hacking it.
- Robert Seidman
@robert, fair enough, good point
- MG Siegler
I've got my money ready Steve, but I don't anticipate it being available for a few weeks. I just rewatched the SDK event and they clearly stated that v2 of the iPhone software would be released at the end of June
- Jamie
*Something* will be available right away (or within 2 weeks), either the 3G-iPhone2, or a cheaper entry-level/subsidized iPhone. Apple has been without stock for too long, they're not stupid, and they want to max out their Q3 shipments. But there's going to be quite a backlog of demand, so quantities will be tight at least for a few weeks.
- LogEx
My guess is 2 weeks, available from around the 19th, least here in australia (it's the date the Sydney store opens)
- Duncan Riley
I bet the app store will ship tomorrow.
- Steve Rubel
yeah, they'll need to give us something tomorrow. 2.0 software is a good bet.
- MG Siegler
Who cares - as long as the phone is tied exclusively to a service(AT&T in the U.S.), its going nowhere fast. It's kind of like a repeat of the Apple-exclusive hardware for Mac OS. That worked really well for market share and innovation...
- Zach Landes
absolutely not. Will be June 19 for the Australian Apple Store launch
- Allison
Seems reasonable that some will be in stock, enough to sell to people who have been waiting in line for weeks. If I get one, I don't expect to take the plunge for a few months.
- Mike Reynolds
rambn: funny, my family has five AT&T phones and I wouldn't use anything else now, at least in the San Francisco Bay Area. TMobile? Crap. Sprint? Crap. Verizon? That's as good as AT&T but they don't have iPhones, so they are out of my picture too.
- Robert Scoble
I don't know, but I really hope so! I have really become a fan boy :)
- Sean Ammirati
I think many of us are unhappy with our current provider. I know I an unhappy with Sprint and look forward to the day the contract is over. We have 5 lines counting the data card. I am looking forward to an iPhone.
- Johnny Sewell
@Robert Scoble My family is all in California except me and they are on Sprint. Very nice family plan, and the service has been fine. I think you met my sister Marni at Under the Radar. She's got data on sprint and it works well. Oh, and just because AT&T is "the best" doesn't mean its ridiculous that you should be locked into a service provider. What happened to choice?!?
- Zach Landes
You have choice, Zachary -- you can buy a Windows Mobile phone. :-) If Apple wanted to build a platform independent phone it wouldn't have gotten to develop the OS for the phone *it* wanted to build. The telcos were not too interested @ the time in a phone that nearly had a 1GB OS. I hope it is open to all carriers someday, but I'm glad it got built how Apple wanted it built.
- Robert Seidman
I'm betting immediate availability through the Apple store and in major markets. A couple weeks elsewhere.
- Chris Baskind
Almost certain that they won't be available until around the 18th at the earliest. Jobs will use the interim to build anticipation and for the free marketing. I'm hoping that I'm wrong, but I also suspect that we'll only get demos of apps and have to wait until the end of June for the 2.0 firmware update.
- James
from fftogo
@Robert Seidman thats not a compromise I'm happy to make. About a week ago I wrote up my thoughts about this, incidentally...http://snipurl.com/2en25 [zachlandes.com]
- Zach Landes
@Zachary and you get the opportunity to not make that compromise. On the other hand, had Apple compromised, nothing remotely approaching what got built would've gotten built. That said, I do not love the "control" they are lording over us (no support of Flash, etc). It's not a perfect world, but I am very happy with the phone.
- Robert Seidman
It feels like Christmas Eve and Steve Jobs is Santa Claus!! :)
- Paul
@Robert I want one...but my Sprint family plan is too good to abandon. And I'm about go to England...does the iPhone work there?!
- Zach Landes
it works in the UK, but you may want to look into the international data plan or not use it for data unless you have WiFi.
- Robert Seidman
This one is worth a thousand words | Blogs | Reuters.com - http://blogs.reuters.com/photo...
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ugh. good to see pictures like this every once in awhile. found via boingboing
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Images of political and cultural distress, no matter how disturbing, are always so interesting. It's a moment caught in time that you'd never see otherwise, preserved for history. Brilliant.
- Andrew Dobrow
What an amazing and disturbing photo.
- Brian
friendfeed.com - Traffic Details from Alexa - http://www.alexa.com/data...
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"up 108%"
- Erhan
Australia 7,608 United States 11,683 Iran 12,601 Turkey 12,792 Germany 13,386
- Erhan
Friendfeed.com traffic rank in other countries: United States11,683 Germany13,38486 United Kingdom19,338363151 China252435,511 Japan36,66839
- K.D.
United States 45.8% Germany 10.3% Japan 5.3% United Kingdom 4.8% China 4.1% Australia 3.6% Canada 3.1% Turkey 2.6%
- Erhan
Why Turkey? Iam turkish.. not like be have the best inernet connection
- Rif Kiamil
@Rif? Are you Turkish? Where are you now - Turkey?
- Erhan
sosyomat'a henüz yetişememiş olmasına inanamadım. :)
- cem baspinar
If that's real (it's Alexa after all), could be due to a small Twitter exodus. Given that Twitter is 10X the size of FF (or so), a small exodus from Twitter can really make FF grow. But then those people will bring others over to FF, etc.
- Mike Reynolds
Alexa is so incorrect it is not even funny. Their update just made it worse. I wish we would all collectively ignore it - it has the appearance of accuracy, but the data is just wrong.
- Bret Taylor
go FF goooo!!! *gg*
- Dieter Schwarz
from Alert Thingy
Thanks for the update Bret.
- Mike Reynolds
@Bret please won't ignore it - I'm playing http://www.urladex.com/ and I have lots of FF interests. : ) Alexa is just a good toy. : )
- Erhan
turkish cypriot born in london, but span the ip network.. right now in klagenfurt before heading to the Orlando for Cisco Live
- Rif Kiamil
@Rif I'm following you : ) Nice to meet you. ; )
- Erhan
Alexa isn't exactly gospel...
- Phill Price
yes - FF's Alexa is 37050 now. It was 40... 7 hours ago. Great eye! I love it ; )
- Erhan
Who Owns Your Comments? - We Need Your Input - http://intensedebate.com/blog/
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The definition of "own" is a little slippery here no?
- Brian Sullivan
Any system of accepting input (whether it's a comment, a username, or an uploaded photo) can specify TOS. So if a service (like Disqus) has some fine-print about owning (with rights to republish or repurpose) the comments inputed into their system, it's seems pretty clear-cut who owns the copyright. Think about the guy who published the Chuck Norris Facts book based on user-inputed data from his website. Think her got 10,000 approvals to re-publish? Nope, it was specified upfront in his site's TOS.
- Carter Rabasa
Did somebody call? Oh, you said "slippery". My bad.
- Slappy Line
the comments want to be free.
- Thomas Hawk
I draw a parallel between blog comments and "letters to the editor" in old media. If you think of it from that persepective, the commentor owns the comment and can do whatever they want, but by submitting it they extend a non-exclusive right to publish the comment to the blog. Same as people would write the same letter to 2 or more newspapers, you are free to resubmit your comments to multiple blogs, on your own blog, etc etc.
- Bastard Operator From FF
Define "own."
- Robert Scoble
My comments are on a permanent loan to FriendFeed. :-)
- Robert Scoble
If I say something out loud in the middle of times square (or any other public space) - does anyone "own" my speech?
- Tony Haenn
Ugh. No one.
- JonathanJoseph
It's all about an agreement I think. By default, if you make an interview for example, YOU own the rights on the interview, not the one who's interviewed. Because you did the "intellectual" effort of asking the right questions...
- directeur
is there a difference between written and spoken words? legally, i mean...
- TJ Trapp
Free for anyone to use for non-profit purposes, as long as they credit the originator. And no, adsense doesn't count as making a blog "for-profit".
- Zach Landes
According to FF TOS (though it may be a bit ambiguous) it would seem comments here are "owned" by them: 4. Intellectual Property (Trademarks & Copyrights)
- Brian Sullivan
Another example, say In my blog I have terms that say that I can edit your comments if I want to, and if you do comment you're bound to these terms... then it's "obvious" that I own your comments :)
- directeur
it's like if you wrote on someone elses house. It's their house. they can do what they want to with the comment.
- SolidSmack
from twhirl
I'm pretty sure I own all your comments.
- felix
@Josh That's a poor example -- writing on someone else's house is called vandalism.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Also, I think its time for Creative Commons to come up with some comment licenses that bloggers can display.
- Zach Landes
The day we start fights about who owns a thought or a scribbling is the day we give up the freedom that interaction brings us. It shouldn't be about ownership. Ownership is related to the self, the ego. It should be about contribution. If you want to own things, keep it to yourself and shut up. But I'd rather have everyone contributing with the idea that the contribution itself provides us all value.
- Alexander van Elsas
@directeur Ownership and control are 2 different things.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Alexander: I own rights on software I make, articles and books I write that doesn't mean I don't contribute in opensource and free knowledge :)
- directeur
@Alexander Ownership of our original thoughts and creations is a hallmark of the Western World. Imagine how many fewer companies would have been started, how many fewer hours great minds would have spent in the lab or sitting at their desk to create, if they knew that they had no ownership of their ideas. There is no point in pretending that people are only motivated by good will toward others.
- Zach Landes
Alexander: True. But if you consider all written thoughts to belong to the commons, then the question of who's allowed to manage it still remains. For example: is someone allowed to delete (retract) his own comment at all times, or is someone allowed to delete comments on his blog, and when is this censorship? The ownership question itself doesn't matter much.
- Meryn Stol
@Shey: I own implies I control, I can control something if the owner lets me do this, right?
- directeur
@directeur No. Ownership rights and management rights are different in my view. I give the bank management rights to play with my money when I invest, it doesn't make it their money.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
This is such an odd debate. What's the point of voting about whether commenters "own" their comments? No matter how the vote turns out, they don't. The person who owns the website (to which the comments were submitted) can do anything they want with them (including deleting or editing them). To pretend that the submitters have "rights" to how the is stored, displayed, or anything else is kind of a farce.
- Carter Rabasa
I think this is really kind of silly. This is a public forum, so in reality, anyone who wants to rip your comment, quote, blog, or whatever will, and chances are, someone already has no matter if they were involved in the discussion at all. The success of this global social network is that we are able to freely share and exchange ideas, and if we just go back to the primitive thought process that you can hold on to complete creative control of a one liner you post on twitter, we might see problems.
- Anthony
@Shey that's exactly what i'm saying :)
- directeur
I'm with Jason Kaneshiro, though I haven't figured out anything really valuable to keep offline yet ;-)
- Robert Seidman
I just want to be able to edit, delete, and export my comments. Call it whatever you want.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
@aureliusmaximus asks what's Twitter. Oh, it's the thing I use to put interesting 140-character items into FriendFeed. Heheh.
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