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I am getting connected to Ecademy at http://www.ecademy.com/account... with @thomaspower @pennypower and more.
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I notice that profile says you work with Paladin Advisors Group, "a new consultancy". I must've missed the memo, and LinkedIn shows this was two months ago! I trust things are still going well for you in the Valley?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel, things are great. More on Paladin soon. It's a bit premature.
- Louis Gray
Are we going to get a nice summary report on the service from you? I have been curious about it, but never really had the time to check it out.
- Rob Diana
Rob, probably soon. I am checking it out and getting it connected to folks. It's similar to a UK/EU version of LinkedIn, but has many different features. The UI is a little raw, but the people are solid.
- Louis Gray
Can you tell us why you chose to connect on ecademy or point where you explained elsewhere? I'm really getting burned out on profile creation and maintenance. What does this service offer that linkedin doesn't? Is it more helpful to freelancers and thought leaders? The site itself doesn't even help me distinguish it...very raw.
- Lane Rapp
Lane, I am speaking to the Ecademy community in September in London, invited by Thomas Power. I wanted to be involved in the community prior to the trip and am getting up to speed.
- Louis Gray
It's one community I am in and know I am not using at even 10% of its potential - but then it can be that I havent crystallized what my next business will be about
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Do you think it's worthwhile? How is it different than LinkedIn?
- Dan Schawbel
I assume Louis is joining Ecademy for legitimate access to the established network of international digerati, not because its feature set beats LinkedIn. I'll leave it up to you to figure out whether or not those users are part of the Dan/Me2.0 target market. Also, don't forget Xing's "LinkedIn for the world outside of the US" niche.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Thank you Louis comments appreciated Thomas Power Chairman Ecademy http://www.ecademy.com/account...
- Thomas Power
RT @andersoncooper:Is Obama’s honeymoon over? http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009...
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Blogging at Work if You Don't Have a Blog - http://www.conversationagent.com/2009...
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How much faster is the new iPhone 3GS? It keeps up with friendfeed's realtime feed and the old one didn't. My son noted that 3G web pages are a lot faster too.
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On the non-iPhone site?
- Obayoo
Yes
- Robert Scoble
Can you make a video because not all of our feeds are as fast as yours.
- Jeremy Franklin
I just wish there was more to it feature wise, or else it would be a no-brainer upgrade for me.
- Obayoo
Just about everything - from reboots to app launches to page loads etc, is much, much faster :)
- Patrick Jordan
When you say it can keep up with the realtime updates. Are you testing this in Safari or through some sort of Friendfeed client?
- Alex Knight
I agree with Obayoo
- Johnny
Alex: Safari. I don't like any of the clients.
- Robert Scoble
I am on the standard site with my 3GS and it is rocking!!!
- Drew Lucas
I am loving my new 32gb black 3GS ... the S really does mean Speed!! :)
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Yes, it does. Really like the 3g s.
- Jeremy Franklin
Robert - Wifi or 3G when you were testing?
- Alex Knight
BuddyFeed is much better on the 3G S than the 3G
- LPH™ and his dog P™
I'm a bit surprised at how much faster it is. It chews through every app I've got.
- Bryan Bartow
How about battery life?
- Johnny
I just downloaded a new app and it was installed in only a few seconds ... wow
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Alex: both. Battery life seems just slightly better but I need more days to know for sure.
- Robert Scoble
The battery life on mine seems the same --
- LPH™ and his dog P™
I'm getting slightly better battery life on my 3G with just the 3.0 update. I was hoping the 3GS would have substantial battery improvements though.
- Alex Knight
Battery life test posted in FF room earlier - http://ff.im/4ehnW
- Mike Bracco
Thanks Mike
- Johnny
Eh, maybe I will shell out the $$$ to upgrade. I thought my 3g would be good enough. :( Not very interested in the video. Just battery life and speed
- Johnny
One of the many impressive ways it's shown off its speediness to me was on app updates. I had 12 waiting for me when I synced the 3GS first time to my Mac. I never, ever let it try to 'Update All' on the 3G because it usually took a long time just doing one at a time. Yesterday I gave it a go with the 12 updates - just over 1 minute - boom - done.
- Patrick Jordan
How are you accessing FF on the iPhone (I have a 3G)? What's your recommendation?
- Scotty Perkins
Scotty, BuddyFeed is the best app for the iPhone so far. AlertThingy is coming along nicely.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Scotty: I am sitting on my couch talking with you on my iPhone just using the web browser (Safari) set to the standard FriendFeed site. I refresh often. :-)
- Robert Scoble
LPH: I have BuddyFeed and love but today I was typing a long comment and got a call in the middle of it and then when call was done my message I was typing was completely gone...I don't understand how the app would not save the message in that case...absurd!
- Mike Bracco
Do any of the iPhone apps do real-time updates yet?
- Jesse Stay
Mike, I've had similar things happen. I've lost pictures that way too ...
- LPH™ and his dog P™
LPH: yeah seems like a huge design flaw, I guess I'm so used to apps on iPhone just working so I was really surprised by behavior.
- Mike Bracco
Excellent, thanks. Will try those. I'm still getting my feed under me with FF.
- Scotty Perkins
Jesse - don't think so, if you mean any of the native FF apps and FF real time updates that is.
- Patrick Jordan
Try Google Earth - which was barely usable on the older models. It screams on the 3Gs - benefits from the CPU, gpu, and ram improvements - it's more responsive than my MacBook pro (though obviously I have a much larger screen on that).
- Robin Barooah
This is great news. I can justify buying one if it's substantially faster than the 3G.
- RobinDotNet
Robert: I have a 3Gs since yesterday. I did not have the old 3G but sometimes I grabbed my friends' ones. I can tell you is faster and that the 's' is a good descriptor.
- Eduardo Loyola
makes it much harder to ignore when I have a 2G, will I be liked in past the 4G release I wonder?
- Mark Essel
Did you mean OS 3.0 or OS 2.x on the 3G didn´t keep up with FF realtime feed ?
- Thomas Bøhm
It blows that you have to go to the regular FF site to get the realtime updates. The iPhone site is much better adapted to the size of the screen but you still have to refresh. Do you think this is because of speed concerns?
- Wim Mulder
Wim: yes. Realtime was useless on old iPhone. Even on new one I keep it off most of the time.
- Robert Scoble
Is there a concern that developers might start building apps that won't work/are too slow with the older models?
- Obayoo
Obayoo: that almost is a certainty. Games, my son says, are much better on the new hardware.
- Robert Scoble
Jeff Atwood posted a link to a great video from the iPhone Blog that compared side by side the 3g with the 3gs and it was pretty well twice as fast.
- Travis Koger
I turned Wifi off yesterday after the first 2 hours of usage and then proceeded to use 3G the rest of the day for all data and forgot I wasn't on Wifi... Fast is an understatement, however I'd like to see some side-by-side speed tests for 3G vs 3GS. Not convinced just yet that folks need that "S", the more efficient OS could be adding to the speed... With that said, provided I un-brick...
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- Walt Ruppar
iPhone provides me tools for work and leisure that have me very excited about modern (social) media.
- Dave
There is a video being passed around of a woman dying after being shot in the streets of Iran. You know how to find it. I won't post it. It's just too horrific. My thoughts with her family and those who struggle to be heard.
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ya just saw it :/
- sean percival
saw that. :/
- vijay
that's the one Milad was talking about :||||||
- Shandiz
What the hell can we do instead of just agreeing that real time is awesome !
- sami
god. its just one person. today almost 6 ppl died in the streets
- Myri∂m
It's interesting that journalists always struggle to show just how much to show. It's a tough one. Sami: if you aren't in Iran you can't do much other than to declare your solidarity.
- Robert Scoble
horrific.
- Carlos Ayala
I agree with you (I didn't post it). then italian television showed it at 8pm... they suck...
- ezekiel
The only reason a video like that exists, is because people are morbid enough to go watch it. These people are like real life trolls. We should just ignore them, maybe they'll go away. Yea, don't judge me, I mean, we have never tried that, have we? For all we know, it might work.
- Javier Altman
Andrew sullivan live blogging what he is hearing from Iran http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/
- Teri Gidwitz
Javier: I don't agree with that. Sometimes you need to show other people the truth of life and death. Here they are showing what really is happening on the streets. On the Internet you can choose which truth you want to pay attention to.
- Robert Scoble
Has anyone stopped to think that maybe passing these types of vids around could be further inflaming an already violent situation on the break of something much worse?? I am all for transparency but, when do we in social media draw a line and say that its not our place to interfere in other countries politics??
- Joe Hall
Maybe can we all decide for a worldwide gathering on a certain date to push our governments to do anything to help.
- sami
the most important channel of italian public tv decided to show the video, at 8 pm, during the news, when a lot of people is watching... i'm glad here on ff we have this attitude, and WE THINK before posting...
- Ivy /composmentis
sami: the worst thing for the US government to do would be to get involved. That will allow the Iranian government to turn the protesters into villians.
- Robert Scoble
Not if governments where pushed into involvement by their citizens, Rwanda, Darfour, Bosnia, This has to stop, you know well that our governments will do nothing if no money is involved
- sami
This is when clicking 'like' is not really appropriate. I've seen some horrid videos on the internet over the years, no matter where the 'line' is drawn it will always be broken. Sad but true.
- Chris Marshall
The Supreme leader chap called Britain (my country) the most evil nation on earth which I thought was a bit harsh.
- David Lloyd
Robert: I don't disagree with the dissemination of information. I think we all have a responsibility to know what is really going on in the world. All I'm saying is that media can be morbid because the media knows that blood, gore and icky stuff grabs peoples attention. It's very sad, but it's very true. And all I tried to say was, maybe the only reason why this crap happens is because...
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- Javier Altman
I was so shocked when I saw that. But in a way it illustrates what is keeping everyone glued to the topic: ghoulish bloodlust, electronically sanitised for the mass market. Meanwhile I'll keep tweeting to encourage a donation to avzaaz.com to pay for an independant exit poll http://bit.ly/q46TU - the only practical suggestion I have come across for those outside of Iran to do something affirmative to try and help this dreadful situation.
- Anita Hunt
this is not interfering joe/ we need your help / we need you all to reflect these films and photos / we need to be heard
- Shandiz
Just watched the video: what a world.
- David Lloyd
Or we do something know to help them now, or our governments will go to war because of the Nuclear threat - Our choice !
- sami
we know iranian gov. is killing people... that would justify not a 'us' intervention, but for sure a UN intervention...
- Ivy /composmentis
from email
Anita: That is exactly my point. Because people consume it, it exists. Maybe if we stopped consuming it, it'd stop existing (or at least become rare). It's just a thought. It'll never happen though, human beings are way too drawn to blood and gore.
- Javier Altman
@Javier I don't agree with you. I was just having this discussion with someone. The media in the U.S. censors tons of stuff because they think it's too much for the American audience. On the other hand, other countries don't censor their media. I know that in Latin America, they show everything because they feel people should understand what is exactly going on. I am not sure if this...
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- Shevonne
The protesters have already been labeled villans. I watched this yesterday when it was broadcast on CSPAN. The crowd chanted "death to America" and "death to Britain". Sadly this clip on CSPAN only has been viewed 104 times according to the counter on the site. http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library...
- Robert Kenney
i just watched the video..and i feel that such videos should be shown so that the world gets to know the real situation in Iran . we cant just continue to be armchair activists ...something needs to be done ..NOW !!
- Ray
I saw it. There are simply no words.
- Chris Baskind
Shevonne: Please understand that I'm coming from a different background, as I was born, raised and still live in Latin America (Argentina and Chile, to be precise). If you saw some of the footage they show on TV here, dismembered bodies after a car wreck for no other effect but to keep people watching, you'd be disgusted. I have not watched this video either. I don't need to watch it to...
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- Javier Altman
@Javier I guess it depends as to the person's motive why he/she is posting it. I think the majority of the people (not going to say everyone cause you never know) are forwarding it so people can see that there is more to the story. The first time I saw the video on here was a Persian FFer, and I don't think she posted it for the shock factor. I think it's so everyone can understand what is going on.
- Shevonne
Javier: I think the importance of this video is to help us conceive of the horror on an individual level. It's so easy to say Iran, Iranians, Iranian Government - to coalesce these ideas into an oversimplified whole. Those oversimplifications allow concepts like "Axis of Evil" to exist. When you are confronted with the harsh reality on a personal level, it's harder to ignore that these are individuals like us with families and friends, who are suffering at this moment.
- Chip Ramsey
Shevonne makes a good point; there is so much disinformation flying around people post pics and vids as 'proof' to the outside world of their actual situation. For example: several hours ago there were reports of a bomb at the tomb of the last Ayatollah but not one pic or vid.
- Anita Hunt
Shevonne: True, I'm not saying people posting it are all doing it out of a morbid sense of entertainment. I just think it's redundant. Maybe I'm too much of an optimist, but I want to believe that people don't need to be shown this kind of horror to understand it. Then again, that's just me.
- Javier Altman
Chip: I'd hate to think that people need to be shown this horror on a personal level to understand how it works, what it is and what implications it has. I don't have to show you a video of me killing your dog so that you'll understand how much you'll suffer if I actually go and kill your dog. Aren't we smarter than that? Oversimplifications do exist and they suck, I'm not going to...
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- Javier Altman
+1 Javier. Just because I can see it, does not mean I need to. Just give me the overview so I can understand the gravity of it without all the gory details. The same reason I have refused to watch the beheading videos from the radicals. I understand what i means to be shot, beheaded, blown up, and have seen enough of this footage unintentionally to be satisfied that I have a grasp of what it means. I get it.
- Robert Kenney
so sad and horrifying may her death and all those involved not be in vain.
- Kim Landwehr
It is a difficult clip to watch - it makes me feel helpless. I pray for those in Iran fighting for their freedom.
- Robert Freeze
we need something more than pray :|
- Shandiz
Tell us what you need, Shandiz.
- Chris Baskind
Javier: I understand your point and wish that were the case. Let me put it this way, I will be going over to a friend's house in an hour or so. Most of the people there will not be talking about Iran, nor will they care to talk about Iran. 1) because they have negative preconceptions of the region and 2) because they don't want to talk about anything that makes them uncomfortable. This has been going on for me at work as well. My experience has been that very few people are really paying attention.
- Chip Ramsey
@Chris: we need to be heard as much as possible throughout the world. we can't just rely on BBC/ CCN or other news networks!
- Shandiz
Chip: But that's life, for the most part. People generally don't care about things that don't affect them directly. Showing a video won't change that, it'll only make them want to stay away even more -- if they are uncomfortable talking about it, be jumping of joy at the idea of watching a video of something like this, don't you think?
- Javier Altman
Javier: My point is you can't ignore the video. You can't shake the video. But, you can easily ignore my desire to talk about the situation at a party. You can easily ignore Anderson Cooper on CNN running a 5 minute news story about Iran tucked between stories about legalizing marijuana and a celebrity couple getting a divorce.
- Chip Ramsey
just saw the video, may her soul rest in peace and her death not be in vain. I really feel for all the poeple in iran, that there rights to choose for a president are being ignored, and their protests being beaten down.. shame to you ahmejinejad.. excuse my spelling
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Chip: It's true, you can't shake the video that easily, and I suppose the rest of your argument holds water as well. One thing though, even if you make these people who obviously don't want to get involved at least be aware of the situation, what do we gain? These people are not the ones who are going to go out of their way to complain, to participate, to make an effort from their own...
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- Javier Altman
The video has been published on Facebook with a brief description of the incident that ends with the words, "The film is shot by my friend who was standing beside me. Please let the world know." Initially I was against such footage being shown but if such a video makes the world take notice then so be it.
- Chris Marshall
Chip: maybe you could wear green to the party ;)
- Anita Hunt
Javier: It becomes a matter of peer pressure. An exercise in social psychology. We see it happen every day with politicians and religious leaders. Once a story gets promoted to a certain level, even the people on the sidelines get involved. Anita: Good idea, but that may clash with what my wife is wearing. (joke)
- Chip Ramsey
Chip: It usually happens when it affects that person's own community or country at most. It's rare that the people in the sidelines get involved with something that is so foreign to them. Still, I honestly hope you are right.
- Javier Altman
Saw it almost immediately. Was considering tweeting it, but I have to agree with Robert here. All those interested will find it on their own. I would, however, appreciate it if someone would point me in the direction of the facebook post that tells the story behind the vid. May she and all those who have ever lost their lives standing up for the right to speak or as collateral in any power struggle - rest in peace. Lest we forget...
- Danica Radisic
And so once again the media (real-time this time) is busy weaving and plotting justification to invade another country, demonize another nation (Obama 'world is watching'. Similar warning from then president, Bush, before Iraq invasion). I'm glad I know enough technologists are transforming the world for the better instead of fueling an already inflamed situation. Those who are claiming...
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- Moushumi Kabir
There are those who watch a video for the morbidity of it, there are those who watch because they need to see truth, and there are those (like me) who watch a video because they care about the subject (and had no idea the content would be what it was) There is nothing inherently wrong in posting, showing, or viewing a video. Only the intention behind the action is right or wrong. Many...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob, I agree, intention is important. Sadly, given our history/record, I can't help but sense a hidden agenda, more when emotions seem to be selective for the same crime based on nation/religion/ethnicity/color, etc.. If not, why are there no tears for fellow Americans: Katrina survivors, homeless, unemployed, etc.?! We all know the agenda is to instill a gov of our choosing. What...
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- Moushumi Kabir
I hope (among other things) to know her name... someday...
- Carlos M. Gomes
carlos, I've heard her name was Neda?
- motownmutt
it is not horrific, it is beautiful and tragic--she is the face of the revolution
- Eleanor Wynn
speachless and sad
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Moushumi: I agree with you about the desire to interfere (by politicians/military) when we have plenty of issues at home. However, the people here have the desire for the people of Iran to have the same freedoms and voice that we have here. It is our duty to stand with them, and encourage them. Hopefully in doing so, we all succeed, and there is no need or reason for bombing or...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I've only seen the Techcrunch picture of that scene. Horrific is right.
- George Hall (Australia)
That vid is raw, and real. Its a small representation of what people are ACTUALLY experiencing. We simply aren't used to not having layers of sanitized filters between us and well, life.
- Sean Oliver
Thank you so much, Robert: 'Free speech' means spreading infos 'wisely' and respectfully too..
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Rob: let me quote a fellow American who articulated it best "....It's a sensitive issue in the US, given the ongoing threats of "humanitarian" invasion, whether it be by our military or Israel's. The 24/7 news coverage we're getting is obviously aligned with the perpetual pre-war propaganda effort and an anti-Iran bias that has much more to do with oil, Islam, and the 1979 revolution...
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- Moushumi Kabir
What was I complaining about again? This vid is unspeakable even though I'm failing to be objective about it.
- dhamza
Moushimi: What I would like to see come out of all that goes on this week, is sufficient change that any and all threat of western military action in Iran is removed, once and for all. What is sufficient to do that? I don't know. These protests, if /un/successful at changing the mode of leadership in Iran, will likely lead to intervention. However, if the protests change make some...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: why is it our business whom the people of another nation chooses to elect? Our allegiance should be with our constitution, not with any foreign nation. In some countries it's considered treason and rightfully so. Singapore is a prime example: 0 political disturbance and 0 interference in internal politics of other nations. Nothing personal but just to clear my point: Would Robert...
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- Moushumi Kabir
Maryam told me that the name Neda means beautiful voice. I keep thinking of her dad who was one of the ones holding her as she died. It is my worst nightmare to watch one of my children dying. A beautiful voice has been silenced.
- Robert Scoble
The allegiance is not with any foreign nation. It is with /people/ who wish to be heard. People transcend the borders of any nation. My allegiance is for the right of the people to express themselves without being silenced. (cutting off all communications infrastructure silences them!) And as a nation who has suffered the /very same thing/ recently, when one of our own /stole/ an...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
That is terrible
- Dan Schawbel
Today when we celebrate fathers day. Please observe a moment of silence and say a small prayer for the father in Iran who lost his daughter.
- Russ Jackson
Robert: It is when I saw that video that I decided I could not just stand idly by.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: bottom line, there is an agenda behind 'supporting' Iranians. I want my government to focus on domestic issues, plain and simple. I want my fellow Americans to channel their energies in solving domestic crisis, health coverage for ALL Americans, jobs created for the rising unemployed. I want solidarity with these issues not the internal politics of a nation I've absolutely no right over. It's that simple.
- Moushumi Kabir
Want or not, your government is going to continue to worry about international issues. Want or not, your country is on the brink of military incursion into Iran. Would you rather that? Would you prefer us to be completely isolationist? No nation is going to fix all of its own internal ills. If there is any agenda behind supporting Iranians, it seems that it would be a CIA sponsored...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: on his day, I'm honoring my dad and following his teachings: cleaning up my own backyard and staying away from hypocrisy/double standards. It really is very simple, try it sometime! :-)
- Moushumi Kabir
I don't feel that I'm engaging in hypocrisy or double standards. I would do the same as they are in my own country. And, if I happened to be in their country right now, I know where I would be. I'm not sure what you think is hypocritical about that. It is every person's right to be heard. I feel it is my duty and obligation to support people who choose to exercise that right, whether or...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
This is the first time I have been so conscious of Iranian women, defiantly beautiful, with perfect make-up, a shock of hair showing out from under the hijab, they remind me of the Tianamen Lady Liberty and our own Lady of the Harbor.
- Phil Boiarski
Rob: allow me to share my Iranian friend's sentiment and message, "Friends: As a conscientious citizen of the world, I am very disturbed by the events that are taking shape in Iran, the country of my birth. As I have been telling some people in my recent discussions over the situation in Iran -- we all have to be very careful as to what we claim to oppose and what we choose to support...
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- Moushumi Kabir
Moushumi: well said. That's why I totally disagree with USA Republicans who are pushing Obama to do more. He has been perfect on this issue and should stay as quiet as possible. Iranians need to do the hard work here and it needs to continue to be seen as an Iranian issue. My wife still remembers being bombed by Iraq with USA made bombs. Lets not continue to make mistakes as Americans and I hope it all works out for Iranian citizens.
- Robert Scoble
Russ, I will. And I pray for all the fathers who have lost children either through death or divorce. May they be reunited, if not here in restoration then in the Resurrection. May they be granted comfort and peace and hope.
- Melanie Reed
I have to agree with Robert - The LAST thing I want to see in this is US military involvement. Whether that is to step in and be "peacekeepers" or to step in to overthrow the current regime, I don't think that these are admirable or desirable goals.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
And Moushumi, I don't understand why you think that supporting the people's right to be heard is hypocritical, or objectionable. I do not advocate violence, and I do not advocate military conflicts. Peaceful deomonstration is the proper means to change minds permanently. Why should I not support the people's right to do that. Go back and look through my tweets, and see what I think....
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Robert, Rob, I agree with you. As we got nearly the same problem in Madagascar: US, South Africa, other Africans, France (?) military involvement and so on! Believe me, pple just wanna live in -peace-, and those kind of unhealthy buzzes and wishes are simply inadmissible!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
The Iranian people don't need me to speak for them. But I am happy to help them have the means, and carry their message further. They don't need a "twitter revolution" but if there is revolution, the news of it won't be on CNN, and it won't be in the New York Times, or even on al Jazeera - at least not the news of it happening while it happens. That news will be on twitter, and on FriendFeed. I support people delivering the news.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Also: I truly believe that thought and words carry the ultimate power. If we all sit here and think about, and talk about violence as a solution, it will come to that. If we all sit and think about, and talk about the power of speech over the power of guns, that is what will come to be. Support speech with me. And remember Moushimi, supporting speech is not the same as taking sides. I would support both sides' rights to speak.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Robert I respectfully disagree. The us is the home And beacon of freedom loving people everywhere. It seems to me that most of the protestors want a strong show of support from the us administration. The eu has been much for forceful in their condemnation of the regimes behavior. I am a proud republican and want Obama to so much much more than he has. Like it or not we are accused of meddling anyway so we may as well truly meddle.
- Zachary Adam Cohen
Rob, you said it all! US and European governments can't continue to 'ignore' facts and truths spread on the Internet when their own people are buzzing about them. That's why too many unfair infos can lead to horrible 'mistakes'. Horrible but sometimes wanted or even provoked mistakes! We are talking about billions $$$, but about billions of lifes too!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
"Gandhi contrasted satyagraha (holding on to truth) with “duragraha” (holding on by force), as in protest meant more to harass than enlighten opponents. He wrote: “There must be no impatience, no barbarity, no insolence, no undue pressure. If we want to cultivate a true spirit of democracy, we cannot afford to be intolerant. Intolerance betrays want of faith in one's cause." [http://ff.im/4g7Oe]
- MikeAmundsen
Zachary, talking about 'home and beacon of freedom', once again I'll try to talk about nothing but just what I know: Madagascar, as an example. Believe me or not, but we in Madagascar have 'notions' of freedom too! We too have deep culture of 'how to protect peace' etc.. We too are Human, we too love our country as you love yours. We have brains (yes we do!) and can recognize it when...
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- Thierry R. Andriamirado
the best running commentary on the US foreign policy (among other things) is done by one Fred, at http://www.fredoneverything.net/FOE_Fra...
- Michael Bravo
There is a world outside US and Twitter. It doesn't reside in 'color' and has a mind of its own. It's called Asia - http://3.ly/tbE. Will Obama walk the walk as he talked the talk in Egypt? He should know Asia/Arab/Muslim world are watching him too.
- Moushumi Kabir
Maryam's relatives In Iran tell us they hear chants of "God is great." here is why that is significant:
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They are yelling that because that is the same chant they would say during the revolution 30 years ago. They do that to make it clear their protests are aimed at the leaders, not at Islam.
- Robert Scoble
tease
- Erin @queenofspain
Commercial break.
- Blake
Who needs CNN? I've got Scoble on my radar.
- Jason A. Nunnelley
i agree, God is great
- joebrooks
they've been saying God is Great all week during the night.
- geoff hines
"Allaho akbar" is what the cries say throughout the city.
- Robert Scoble
it also helps people let others know they are all in it together. the loader the chants, the more people feel support among their countrymen.
- Shayan
This is a way of telling the Supreme Leader that god is great but you are not.
- Robert Scoble
Shayan: yup. Are you in Iran?
- Robert Scoble
Robert, it's a defiant chant?
- Jason Nunnelley
Jason: very defiant.
- Robert Scoble
btw robert thanks for making CNN realize how much their were failing us.We appreciate it very much that you brought attention to the situation when it was starting to pick up
- Shayan
islamic govt certainly cant ban ppl from shouting god is great; also carrying a koran might prevent you from being beaten in the streets...
- Miko Matsumura
They are saying (from their subconscious): I can call on the bogeyman (that we both know doesn't involve himself in our petty issues) just as much as you
- Greg Marlin
Miko, I'm not sure about the Koran protecting you from a beating.
- Jason Nunnelley
These events are quite different than those we usually hear about coming from mideast. They tend to be about sunni vs. shiite, but this is people vs. government
- Blake
Shayan: my voice was one of thousands.
- Robert Scoble
yes I think it's reasonable to be skeptical of it, but possibly worth a try...
- Miko Matsumura
they can't ban ppl from chanting GOD IS GREAT as they are doing this on roof top so its kindda uncontrolable/ and holding Quran is not that helpful as police or guards and plain cloth forces don't care
- Shandiz
Robert: no. i wish I was there now. kinda feel helpless not being able to do much from here. I was there during the last student uprising (1999) and many died in vain last time. hope it's different this time around.
- Shayan
Shayan, I think it's different than 99 this time. I hope the outcome is, and hope the government avoids bloody conflict -- I should say continued bloody conflict.
- Jason Nunnelley
Shayan: I remember that. That time we didn't have YouTube.
- Robert Scoble
Firk God / Santa Claus if you want to know how to make mayhem, message me and I'll give you the plans we should have implemented when Kenya rigged the elections (Zimbabwe and Iran only exist because the world let Kibaki steal)
- Greg Marlin
the main benefit of the chants is that folks can express their support for the cause without being identified. most families would turn the lights out and start chanting. if you are identified, it doesn't matter what your chant says. you are still in danger. so is your family.
- Shayan
It is such an amazing indication of how incredibly powerful social media is now. If this doesn't open the eyes of traditional journalists, I don't know that anything will.
- Erik Boles
FriendFeed needs a troll button. :)
- Jason Nunnelley
Robert, Shayan: what roll do you expect international attention will play in the conclusion?
- Jason Nunnelley
Jason/Robert/Erik: exactly. I was telling some writer at San Jose Mercury the other day. last time something like this happened all the government had to do was shutdown 3 newspapers to kill the news. this time they are fighting thousands of citizen journalists. This is absolutely amazing...
- Shayan
Shayan -- the peoples voice cannot be oppressed any longer. You hit the nail on the head. it used to be a one way statement, it is now a two-way conversation.
- Erik Boles
there was a video of a woman reciting in the dark "where is this place?" also talking about the volume of Allahu Akbar chants on different nights
- Eleanor Wynn
Jason: the international community's attention helps in many ways especially by putting pressure on the regime's friends such as Russia and China. It also gives people on the ground hope that somebody is hearing their cries. Human solidarity always helps those in peril and gives them more conviction.
- Shayan
Jason: Iran's leadership has lost all respect in the world. Not that it had much but this will have deep impacts for years to come. There will be more resolve on nuclear issue now. Today Neda. Tomorrow YOU.
- Robert Scoble
they are risking their lives, we are just watching intently, it is all we can do
- Eleanor Wynn
Technology is a huge force that tyranny has a difficult time defending against.
- David Damore
because it comes from so many hidden places
- Eleanor Wynn
I believe the informational freedom (note people: freedom is taken, not granted) is most powerful in its ability to spark action in Iran. If the Iranian people stand together, they may create change. It is harder to kill a very large crowd than a single person. However, until recently, my fear was that the few brave Iranians were exposing themselves as targets for the government. With the numbers growing and continuing, they appear more hopeful for real change.
- Jason Nunnelley
they just don't stop or go away
- Eleanor Wynn
Jason: I would suspect you are correct. Initially it was just a protest, then as govt. operatives started killing people, it brought realization to the people of Iran, and they realized they had to stand together, for as long as it takes.
- Erik Boles
Have you read the Peggy Noonan article in the WSJ yet? "Whose Side Are We On? You Have to Ask? - With Twitter's help, the youth of Iran take on the ayatollahs."
- David Damore
David, technology is a tool that catalyzes other forms of action. Talking doesn't topple regimes. At some point people have to develop a plan of action and execute it. What they do, that is a big and scary question. This regime isn't going away any time soon without a big fight.
- Jason Nunnelley
Quoting for the WSJ article: "Half the people in Iran are under 27."
- David Damore
the videos are extremely compelling, more than still, you are there with the person filming and the people being filmed
- Eleanor Wynn
and so many points of view, unlike news where it is the same clip over and over
- Eleanor Wynn
Eleanor: I think that is the really powerful tool here. So many raw, unedited, unrehearsed video's directly from the streets. We have been at the mercy of big news post production for so long.
- Erik Boles
that is the video, in the dark, the woman reflecting with the chanting in the background
- Eleanor Wynn
Erik: I agree, after Twitter, going to the TV set seems lame
- Eleanor Wynn
Eleanor, TV is lame. Diddo on that.
- Jason Nunnelley
Funny, CNN is talking about this now. Sounds like lots in the city were chanting this last night.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, what are the objectives of this revolution
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Aaman: to be heard.
- Robert Scoble
To be precise, it might be too soon to call this a revolution, but in its nascent form, are there any signs of a leadership emerging, or stated principles? FWIW, I feel Mousawi cannot be the true face, unless he is seen as representing the principles of the original revolution
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
The only thing that matters in Iran now is, will the military stay loyal to the govt. Everything else is irrelevant.
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
Robert, Aaman: I'd assume there's some element of justice here as well. The people were granted a vote, told the election results would be respected, voted, and believe now that the government defrauded them. They have a moral standing, even under the most strict of loyalist perspective. At this point, since the government established elections in law, the government broke the law. Now...
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- Jason Nunnelley
It's one thing to be angry with your government. It's quite another to know the law of the land is on your side and your government is in violation.
- Jason Nunnelley
http://su.pr/1Oufcn What is happening in Iran is not happening to just Iranians but to all of us. It is happening to the world.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Perhaps I don't understand FriendFeed...I see "Here is why that's significant:" but I don't see any link or text after...
- Tony Zito
@Tony Zito: The reason is in Robert's first comment. He posted the topic, then continued with the immediate comment to explain.
- Mark H
The great thing about this whole episode is that it shows that Iran is a country of normal people - makes it very difficult for any future US government to bomb the hell out of it under the 'enemies of democracy' card.
- Martin Bryant
A Prayer for Iran: Out of chaos Thou dost create divine beauty; amidst dire disorder Thou dost plant the seed of harmony that blossoms into sweet Peace. May you be Free. May you be happy. May you realize all that is good.
- Meryl Steinberg
Free spirits cannot be chained - by any force of arms. The forces of tyranny may silence voices but they cannot silence the spirit.
- Lorin Olsen
Well Said Lorin.
- Garin Kilpatrick
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