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Identi.ca and the Power of Microbranded Communities - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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Lots of good points. I feel so schizo moving between all these sites.
- Kevin Gamble
Kevin just remember that microblogging is a technology and not a service - whichever one of these services let you use that technology in the best way is probably your best choice IMO
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
bump!
- Jesse Stay
wow!
- Chris Heath
Fail whale. MORE PRODUCTIVITY! Oh, and hello again FriendFeed. Backup for the whale. :-)
ashish, Nathan Snyder, Jeff P. Henderson and 24 other people liked this
Ain't it the truth!
- Gregg Morris
Guess that answers my question. Twitter must be down. ;(
- David Damore
Twitter is definitely down.
- Robert Scoble
Heh--I was wondering when you would show-up. :-)
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Seems like a hard fail right now.
- David Damore
Ahoy!
- phil baumann
you know it!
- DanielthePoet
"Twitter is over capacity. Too many tweets! Please wait a moment and try again." Didn't know people had so much to say about Charlie Weis
- David Damore
It's been down for at least five minutes already. This is the longest I've seen the fail whale in months.
- Robert Scoble
F5 F5 F5 WTF???
- David Damore
so are you starting to get the shakes? How long can you go without tweeting?
- Ben Reierson
Responding to high error rate 21 seconds ago Starting about 10 minutes ago, we began experiencing a very high rate of errors and we are working on the underlying problem.
- David Damore
would be more productivity if there was no FF ( twitter backup )
- Mihai Secasiu
Grrr.
- James Myatt
Looks like they had a similar problem about a week ago with elevated error rates.
- David Damore
Hello again? Like the girlfriend once scorned, should we accept your advances now? :)
- Louis Gray
Zing!
- Jeremy (on vacation)
Fixed now for you folks?
- David Damore
Looks like Twitter is better now.
- David Damore
Not fixed here. I skipped the '?' and had my hopes up. F5 F5
- Tim
Hey it's back... nope there it goes again. And back... nope gone again.
- SAM
Hmmmmmm
- David Damore
Back down here again too :(
- David Damore
Are you going to stay this time? :-)
- Jesse Stay
How would Google Wave be useful right now?
- David Damore
Wow 15 minutes and counting. We're approaching pre @aplusk days
- Tim
@ David - well this looks like an interesting Wave - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- phil baumann
lol
- Mark
and is Twitter down? I never noticed.
- Jesse Stay
Is @aplush pre or post Oprah? Joking
- David Damore
lol@jesse
- Jeremy (on vacation)
Thanks Phil
- David Damore
So what was trending when it went down?
- phil baumann
Dave - sure. Interesting use case. Definitely spam would be something Google would have to work on.
- phil baumann
not sure what was trending but there was quite a lot of activity on #Spill - in Oz our opposition party is having a meltdown and are spilling the leadership in 30 mins time
- Hilary Talbot
Phil: That was really interesting. Surprised that that shooting never gained traction on Twitter. Did it ever trend? Seems like it was all about Mr. Woods the past few days.... and shopping
- David Damore
Hi everyone. Hope you are all surviving without twitter lol. Great to see you all here.
- snysctt
It's back
- Tim
For how long though lol
- snysctt
Twitter Lists are gone :o!
- snysctt
Back up. I think the FAIL Whale actually dreams of FriendFeed succeeding and killing Twitter. :)
- phil baumann
@snysctt Good catch on noticing the missing lists. Call out an APB!
- David Damore
Thanks! :-)
- snysctt
I think I broke my F5 button lol
- snysctt
Glad FF is the backup! </sarcasm> ...seriously though, I'd prefer people do one or the other. I don't reply to most of your comments because you're on Twitter and I refuse to get a Twitter account. Lame service.
- Scott Carmichael
Did you see this?! AT&T CEO says they won't have iPhone exclusive forever. http://www.informationweek.com/news...
Dan York liked this
We all know it's likely that Apple will seek to increase iPhone market share by expanding to other carriers at some point. But it's still shocking to hear Stephenson talking about it publicly. Perhaps AT&T is afraid what the FCC will do next time the company tries to extend its exclusive rights to iPhone? Or perhaps he is getting an earful already from Steve Jobs about the crappy service AT&T is offering iPhone users!
- Larry Hawes
RT @mariosundar: For anyone who has ever presented and for those who aspire to be a great storyteller the TED commandments http://ow.ly/6AcM
Dan York liked this
Getting extremely tired of waiting for OS X Chrome. Can it hurry already? Sheesh!
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I agree. Is there an estimate?
- Frankie Warren
i think that google should say something like "it will be ready, when it will be ready. Real soon! Possibly."
- gareth【ツ】
Last I heard, "by September" -- there was a CNET article a few months ago. *sigh*
- Mona Nomura
I'll probably still stick with Safari.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Join the club, Mona. Still waiting for Chrome for Linux. :(
- Steven Perez
My Safari has been unusable since I tried installing 4. It launches and just hangs so now I use Opera. I like it but it's s-l-o-w.
- Mona Nomura
We're all waiting.
- phil baumann
I've been having troubles on hulu with both firefox AND safari. Site is darn near unusable sometimes. :(
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Omg Jonathan - you don't even want to get me started with Opera LOL.
- Mona Nomura
Too funny, I was just Googling this about 5 minutes ago before I hopped on to FF. -The closest I have found is an independent project in its infancy...http://www.labnol.org/softwar...
- Kelly W.
I've been able to use Chromium.app as my primary browser lately, although I do have an extremely high tolerance for crashes.
- Victor Ganata
I prefer crashes to hanging or freezing. Wow, did I just say that? All should be unacceptable.
- Mona Nomura
It won't hurry. You'll just need to get a PC whilst waiting ;-)
- Richard A.
I'd rather die a slow death than go back to Windows (right now). As soon as Win 7 for Netbooks stabilize, I will consider going back. :)
- Mona Nomura
I have Windows on my Mac and run Chrome when I am forced to boot Windows to run Quicken. However, leaving OS X just to use Chrome? No Way! :)
- Kelly W.
Mona, strange. I run Safari 4 with Webkit nightlies and, for the most part, it's really stable and fast.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Ya, sadly my Safari has been dead for the past two months. I can't figure out how to fix it. :(
- Mona Nomura
My Safari 4 (now 5528.16) has been rock-solid (and fast) for me ever since it first came out. In fact I'm doing most of FriendFeeding in Safari since the beta went final because something about the new FF makes it very slow to load new pages/tabs in my Firefox.
- LogEx
Trust me, if I had a choice, I would use Safari. The problem? It is broken... just hangs.
- Mona Nomura
Why do you want it?
- Louis Gray
Because my Safari is broken and the current alts do not suffice.
- Mona Nomura
Yeah Safari has major bugs right now they haven't fixed since December breaking sites like Gmail, Facebook, and SmugMug. There are about 3-4 open cases for it with no response from Apple. It's incredibly frustrating, and making me consider getting a PC.
- Jesse Stay
Have you looked at your console logs to see if there are any telltale messages there when launching Safari? Have you tried any of the 3rd-party uninstaller tools to get the support files cleared out prior to a re-install (something may be corrupted). I assume you've tried getting rid of all plug-ins. Does the old version still work (if not, you have a more serious systemic problem).
- LogEx
Nope. It is completely dead. I spent three days trying to fix it (even went in from terminal with helpful suggestions from Akiva and Victor) but it is d.e.a.d.
- Mona Nomura
Jesse, why don't you just use firefox?
- Mike Hussein Cohen
Mike, because Firefox is extremely slow compared to Safari
- Jesse Stay
Not to mention the developer tools on Safari, especially on the nighty Webkit build, are far superior to Firebug on Firefox
- Jesse Stay
And Webkit is so much further ahead than Mozilla
- Jesse Stay
Except my banking site only works in Gecko and not Webkit :( Time to find a new bank?
- Victor Ganata
Have you tried using fluidapp or stainlessapp?
- JR Ignacio
Victor, honestly, I would. That's unacceptable in this day and age.
- Jesse Stay
I know! Where is it?!
- Shevonne
The antcipation...
- orionstarr
faces and geo location: who needs privacy? now you must verify to the spouse exactly where you are.
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I wonder how much this iLife '09 will cost us.
- Vinko
100 Personal Branding Tactics Using Social Media - http://www.chrisbrogan.com/100-per...
Michelle Barsi, Helen Hoefele, Muge Cerman and 78 other people liked this
Great list. Who knew there were 100 things you could do? They're all right on though.
- Leo Laporte
This is so weird.. I was just thinking about this today, when I was arguing with my wife about why I post so much stuff. I'm thinking that personal branding is important.
- Joe Mac Stevens
Really good stuff, Chris. Thanks for sharing.
- Bruce Turner
Thank You! Excellent topic that I will delve into right away.
- Wendy J. Roan
from twhirl
Excellent piece by Chris!
- Charlie Anzman
add this to listropolis - http://www.listropolis.com/2008...
- shaun mclane
except that you do a US only list it is a nice list. would it really be asked too much to at least recognize that for example linkedin does not rule the world and write "join the leading biz network, like for example linkedin"?
- Nicole Simon
Holy crap, Chris! This is great stuff! Would you say personal branding is for anyone, or more for people who have something to sell through their online persona (a product, service, or opinion)?
- Zach Landes
Wow, this list is awesome Chris. Thanks for sharing it.
- Jason Runyan
Kick Ass
- Dave Peck
great article with fantastic tips
- Mick Edwards
100 Personal Branding Tactics Using Social Media. Your title is awfully modest considering you covered every marketing aspect in the online world.
- Collin
One of the great things about blogging is it gives businesses the opportunity to listen. Your point about listening is well taken.
- John P. Kreiss
Twitter will kick themselves for missing this (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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Imagine if the world of Instant Messaging had been under one roof, if one vendor had invented it, and had 100 percent market share. Further, what if that vendor had the foresight that there would be other vendors and that compatibility between their services would make a huge market, and that incompatibility would keep the market fragmented and relatively small. What would that vendor have done?
- Dave Winer
from Bookmarklet
Dave - I don't quite understand your argument for how Twitter could have been the NSOL of microblogging. Are you saying that Twitter should have been the site that binds every other micro-blogging service together?
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I don't understand your question, sorry. All I get from it is your first phrase that you don't understand me. So neither of us understand each other. Oh well. Maybe someone else can bridge the void..
- Dave Winer
Love it Dave. We're having a meta conversation about microblogging. Maybe I'll go craft an old fashioned blog post of my own to try and elaborate/clarify :)
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
It's kind of like this Apple commercial. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Dave Winer
Exactly!
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Another example, I read somewhere on FF the other day that people took a feed from a music room here and added it to iTunes and it knew what to do with it! I feel really proud of that cause it was made possible by some early foundation work I did with RSS, a long time ago, paying off now for users. Exactly the kind of foresight I would like to see Twitter do now.
- Dave Winer
Now that I get. Thanks Dave.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Dave, yes you spot on (once again !). However, twitter doing it is basically like asking like asking water to turn to honey. Only a miracle can make it happen. The underlying architecture of Twitter, really can't support a framework of collaborative sharing of info with other 3rd party vendors. FB did a great job with creating the app that was actually a platform. FF seems to be like this, twitter is ouf of the window.
- Peter Dawson
Do you think the problem lies in the fact that they are a Valley startup that needs to look like something Google or Yahoo would buy and put ads on.
- Harold Gilchrist
from twhirl
Harold, I don't think there's a "problem" -- they're overworked and head-down and faced with an enormous amount of opportunity. It must be hard to sort through it all, and to them, a missive like this from me probably sounds pretty shrill. "Oh there he goes again." I don't blame them for this, but I would be remiss if I didn't put my stake in the ground so we can play Monday Morning Quarterback in 2010 or so. (Murphy-willing, knock wood!)
- Dave Winer
Network Solutions are the worst company ever, i don't know why you related Twitter to them.
- Nicholas James
I suspect that the problems from this past weekend are only going to exacerbate the problem. http://tinyurl.com/5pkpjs Not only have they missed they opportunity, but poor communication and support are seriously eroding the customer base. That the victims of this weekend's situation included several strong Twitter evangelists has unfortunate potential. Even tho the folks involved seem to mostly still carry a fondness for Twitter, their followers witnessed the problems and were involved in the solution.
- Patricia F. Anderson
"Imagine if the world of Instant Messaging had been under one roof, if one vendor had invented it, and had 100 percent market share." Wasn't that *mostly* true of AOL, though? Didn't AOL consolidate their position by buying up ICQ? Didn't they drag their feet for years and years on efforts to make their IM play well with others? By illustrating your point with IM, perhaps you have...
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- Karim
Likewise, Network Solutions is an example of *abuse* of a dominant position: in 1995 they charged $100 to register a domain name for 2 years, which led to an antitrust lawsuit. They've also been guilty of domain name censorship, domain name slamming, subdomain hijacking, domain name frontrunning, selling WHOIS information, etc. ad nauseam.
- Karim
I, for one, am glad their business model didn't become IP of a namespace
- Ross Mayfield
I'm really surprised that this weekend's problems of account closings haven't caused more of a fuss. It seems to me that it would be such a big deal, it would be the final straw that would get most of the major twitter advocates to finally pay attention to the whole issue of federation of microblogging. Also: this is the umptyzillionth thing that's made the thought go thru my mind that they must be *trying* to fail!
- Tegan Dowling
@Karim: While AIM is definitely the dominant IM standard here in the US, it doesn't even come close to being so abroad. People I know in India and Australia, for example, don't even know what "AIM" is. Yahoo and MSN Messengers are both the dominant IM networks there. I think that Dave's example very much reflects why Twitter would have done better in the long-term with an open model.
- Mohit
It would be great to see FriendFeed run their own laconica service (identi.ca).
- Dan Cameron
Isn't Identi.ca exactly what you're looking for? FriendFeed doesn't support multiple instances of FriendFeed, but I'm already party of multiple Laconica (the source of Identi.ca) networks via one seamless interface. There are some kinks, sure, but I'm bowled over by how much they've gotten done in a month.
- Marina Martin
Marina, I am an identi.ca user. How do I follow a user on another laconi.ca server? How do they follow me? Please post a pointer to the docs. This is very important.
- Dave Winer
Dave, when you are on the profile page of a user on another laconica server (such as mine: http://waka.me/wil) just click on the Subscribe button. It will then ask you for your profile URL (yours would presumably be http://identi.ca/dave) then submit the form. Your browser will do an OAuth redirect dance, after which you should be subscribed to me.
- Wil
from MojiPage
Mohit, the market is badly fragmented *now.* QQ is huge in China. Yahoo! and MSN started beta testing interop only in 2006. Google whipped out their checkbook and paid AOL a billion dollars for interop, and even that is lame -- AIM users can't see GTalk users from AIM. My point was that AOL *used to be* the dominant IM, just as Network Solutions *used to be* the largest domain name...
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- Karim
(continued) be different. Maybe "We learn from history that we do not learn from history." -- G.W.F. Hegel
- Karim
Ice found on Mars but NEVERMIND THAT SHIT! HOW BOUT THAT TWITTER HUH. Seriously. Knock. It. The. Fuck. Off.
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Yeah what about that damn fail whale shit...screw the water on mars - I want twitter 24/7!!!
- Susan Beebe
It's to the point of depressing, that there's a big wide world out there and some amazing minds around here, but they can't get off the god damned twitter and friendfeed cheerleader squad for five minutes. And everyone is the media, too, so basically unplugging from one, doesn't really do much.
- Eric Rice
If you want to look into the world of design and tech innovation beyond Twitter take a look at "Design and the Elastic Mind." It's the catalog of a recent show at MoMA. Annoying typographic design that makes reading painful (some designers need to be strapped into a chair and forced to read the crap layouts they foist on us.) But the work presented will shake you loose. Here's the NYTimes review of the exhibit (not the book) http://snurl.com/38l6t
- Michael Markman
good god the review starts: "Bioengineered crossbreeds. Temperamental robots. Spermatozoa imprinted with secret texts." Yeaaaah, I'm sold.
- Eric Rice
You, my friend. Are following the wrong people ;)
- Mona Nomura
I'm with Mona, Eric. Time to dial up some new follows :)
- TDavid
Mona: No, I pay attention to the right people, they just get squelched out by the goofy ass noise. You think I'm a pain in the ass for my health? There's only one good thing about some of these groups of people... they are programmable hives that you can run mental algorithms against. At least that's the way I'm writing it, heh.
- Eric Rice
The only person worth following, E: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mona Nomura
Really, Mona? There's got to be some other good twitter comedians out there...somewhere...such an untapped venue.
- Pete Delucchi
Unfortunately, aside from the man who throws up things he may need later (LOL!!) I have found anyone who's made me LOL.. I would LOVE to find more!
- Mona Nomura
Tsk tsk, sir! In these worlds talk like this gets you hidden. Forsooth! Also...Eeegad!
- Jim Stanger
Eric: yep, the noise can be deafening at times and make FF seem like huge freakin' echo chamber! expanding your FF circle will open up new stuff to your feed...more fun! get more cake and bacon!!
- Susan Beebe
You do not need to have 25k followers to be happy! A few hundred people who you interact with is just perfect! Just keep looking for followers who interest you!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Jim, you know my position on hiding, blocking, muting. ;)
- Eric Rice
...and we know yours on kfetching. :D
- Mark Forman
Actually it's not so much a follower thing, I've found that while my follower list is very low here, I'm still able to read and discover other things. It's the noise that seeps in. I mean, I don't *read* TechCrunch and I can't escape that thing because *everyone else does*. That's how the game works, that's fine. I'm not bitching from a poor-me perspective, I'm directly bitching AT: and that means saying, look, people YOU CAN DO BETTER FOR YOURSELVES. So yeah, kinda like that.
- Eric Rice
BTW, I freaking LOVE pomade.
- Eric Rice
Pomade pretty old skool dude. That used to be currency at the barber shops I frequented ans a Brooklyn kid,where all the barbers were named Louie.
- Mark Forman
That was my favorite tweet yesterday from the Mars Lander.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Agreed, the implications from water on Mars are mind blowing.
- Jeremiah Owyang
water on mars is great, but iet's get to the real issue: is there OIL?
- @baratunde
from twhirl
FOLKS - We *knew* there was water on Mars for quite some time. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastr... It's just that we can "touch", "feel" and "taste" it this time, rather than just "look". The linked-to post has more details.
- Yuvi
@Eric Rice, I hear you!! I stopped reading TechCrunch a few months ago because I knew I'd run in to their content repeatedly as it echoed throughout the rest of the blogs I read... and should probably unsubscribe from at some point soon.
- Christopher Butler
Amen brother!
- David Cook
Water on mars? We are just THAT much closer to twittering from Mars.
- Zach Petersen
LOL. your comment is ultimate win. I must say that I posted that article on FF, too, but when you put it that way, the misplacement of emphasis is quite ridiculous.
- Chieze Okoye
More status: identi.ca and Plurk
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Also, we now import Zooomr favorites, and IntenseDebate should work again (they changed their username scheme).
- Paul Buchheit
Thank you. :)
- Hao Chen
very good :-) (but ... can't wait when frf has an ability to add an arbitrary service (user-generated catalog of services available))
- Nikolay Samokhvalov
Awesome!
- Glenn Slaven
When can we have newsgator clippings support for us non-google reader users?
- Glenn Slaven
It's official ... from the big guy himself
- Charlie Anzman
Is there a Skype status feed somewhere Chris?
- Paul Buchheit
igor, I think we'll figure that out once they get federation working (which is supposed to be soon).
- Paul Buchheit
Great. Now I can hide identi.ca feeds without having to hide the blog of the respective user. Thank you.
- Lars Trieloff
Great job!
- Rutger Blom
what about the facebook status updates? I hope that's coming...
- Rahul Das
Nice work with the status, I would like to see DailyMugshot introduced!
- Joe Dawson
Great! Just added identi.ca; configuring brightkite too.
- Parth Awasthi
Paul, given Identi.ca uses the Twitter API it would be nice if we could respond via Identi.ca in the same way you can with Tweets. I presume implementing it wouldn't be overly hard (where as Plurk of course is another matter)
- Duncan Riley
@Rahul FB status would be cool, but there is no public RSS feed. There is a feed, but it requires a key, which would require you to type in your username/password.
- Hao Chen
@Duncan +1. i was thinking the same thing
- Trent Olson
Quick poll. Who's using Plurk?
- Larry Kless
Any chance of adding Qype for us non-american review writers (aka non-yelpers)?
- Liron Tocker
Woohoo! Identi.ca!
- ◄ani625Ξ
Integrated identi.ca via RSS feed before. OK, now it's there but it's not that big deal to me.
- Ansgar Wollnik
Thanks for the identi.ca support ... Excellent work !
- Christian Farley
AWESOME!! Ok, I might be using Identi.ca again!!! Yippee! Thanks FF team!!
- Susan Beebe
Why are the updates called Dents, I'll Dent you later :S
- Joe Dawson
i love "status-blogging", but i still think that it destroys the flow of my friendfeed - i also blocked every twitter update from everyone here at ff...
- Dieter Schwarz
Yay, more services to add to my profile! ;P
- Aaron Myers
I am getting ready for Identi.ca Twitter going down the drain!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
seems like i need to go get my identi.ca id before its taken ...
- Raza
Fantabulous ;)
- Yung-Hui Lim
yay!!
- Sarah Perez
I am all set! Please follow me! http://identi.ca/igorthetroll
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
ahhh cool
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Now people can stop doing status updates with FF every time Twitter is down ;)
- Alejandro
great! but my username on identi.ca (9000) is not recognized by the subscription page. starts with a digit, yes — maybe that's the problem.
- 9000
Of interest: FriendFeed has now added support for both identi.ca and Plurk. Add them to your feed here: http://friendfeed.com/e...
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This may be worth a re-tweet. The again, I could race you to blog it
- Charlie Anzman
Spread the love.
- Hao Chen
You're going to win, Charlie.
- Louis Gray
dozens and dozens of people are thrilled! ;)
- Jeremy Toeman
Ah ... what the heck. Make it a PS to the last post ... (Why am I thinkin' Duncan Riley is doing it right now?)
- Charlie Anzman
Has/How/Why tech blogging has failed you - http://scobleizer.com/2008...
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Long rant, sorry, had to clear the air so I can start blogging again. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Wow...I'm very interested and excited to see/hear/read what is to come from Scobleizer land next.
- Justin Korn
I hope I make your list and if not, please let me know why so I can potentially improve.
- Allen Stern
Glad to see that you are starting to realize, despite Techmeme that the world doesn't revolve around just the bay area.
- Harold Gilchrist
from twhirl
Gotta say you're bang on the mark there. Tech blogging should be about the tech, not the biz.
- Luke Robinson
Allen: I like your blog. It's just that I love hanging out with all of you and talking geeky stuff a lot more than talking about this deal and that deal and all that.
- Robert Scoble
Harold: I've always realized that. I feel I got unfairly tagged with believing the world only was about the Bay Area. I guess I deserved that to some extent, but this area is quite dominant in the world of tech (including the tool you're typing on right now) so some of my boosterism is to be expected. Funny that the top Israeli company has offices here too.
- Robert Scoble
Kudos to you Mr. Scoble, what a very bright post you delivered today! Thank you for bringing some fresh perspective, that's always refreshing and welcome. I'm also happy you cite Lifehacker as an example. They focus on the smartest digital experience possible and help us improve ourselves. That's the biggest deal of all. Techbloggers should never forget it.
- c0wb0yz
I love the tech first and foremost but the business is important too, especially in respect to the sustainability of said tech.
- Jamie
Jamie: I agree. But the business needs to serve the customers and the customers/participants/users or whatever you want to call you and me aren't coming first in this industry anymore and that's worrying.
- Robert Scoble
Wow funny enough thats the way i have been feeling for a while now I am looking forward to seeing what is next from the Scobelizer...
- John Spencer
from twhirl
I agree overall - CN has only a small percentage of biz - most is trends, analysis, and reviews. I had an interesting discussion about this with someone last week - if i had a computer that could handle video, i'd make a quick video to explain - there's an important part you are missing
- Allen Stern
Next is to get some sleep. Gotta be up at 7:30 to be at Fortune Conference at 8 a.m. for breakfast. It's an incredible conference, hope to see some of you at the Tweetup at 5:45 p.m.
- Robert Scoble
Allen: will be watching in the morning for what I was missing. I'm sure I'm missing a lot. I had to stop ranting at some point, it was getting too long! :-)
- Robert Scoble
This is often relevant from major blogs/ celeb bloggers. The smaller and more personal blogs are still focusing just on tech ;) Perhaps you need to update your feeds :-)
- Dennis Bjørn Petersen
from twhirl
Dennis: I know. It's why I spend a lot more time here lately than on blogging. The smaller stuff shows up here a lot more regularly and I see a lot less "Yahoo business news."
- Robert Scoble
Excellent post Robert. It's why I don't read Techmeme as much as I used to. The life and joy in exploring, playing with and dissecting tech, the geeky exuberance in 'new stuff' has been lessened across almost all tech sites in general, leaving a bland veneer that is just business talk. Things a geek like me doesn't care about, as I'm not an investor.
- Mo Kargas
Techmeme has suffered because most of the tech blogs they follow have become nothing more then PR outlets like you said.
- Harold Gilchrist
from twhirl
As I posted in your comments, that's a really good post. It's great to see the old Scoble back - the one who I started reading back when your "latest thing" was Tablet PC! Welcome back, mate.
- Ian Betteridge
Robert, blogging is becoming commercialized, as it becomes popular. I do not see it as a problem. It just might mean that you and a bunch of other likely minded people have to move on to a greener, more fascinating and less populated pastures. Like friendfeed, etc. Luckily, there are lots of them around and tons in the pipeline. Enjoy!
- Павел Романовский
I don't know, Robert. On the one hand I agree 100%. And can I say that as editor of WebWorkerDaily I am the one who gets those 15 press releases a day and I *constantly* have the "is this useful?" filter on. I hope that's clear in our postings. Anyway...Your post is kind of like the person who is used to picking their own corn complaining about the supermarket because it's not the same garden. It's not. The grocer has to pay its bills, as does the paid tech blogger.
- Judi Sohn
I know I am a newie to all this but I have been reading blogs for a while. I've bee thinking up a response and I'll post later. Long comments on the iPhone make for one queasy bus ride.
- Derick Valadao
Finally. Thank you. I follow 357 feeds. Everyday. Granted I have many pop-sites (lifehacker, engadget, etc) on the list. But not one is of these "new breed" of tech bloggers out there. Even though I am in the industry, they do not speak to me. They are just another form of CNN to me. Linking to each other and regurgitating the same gibberish, no matter how relevant or important, it does not speak to me. Anyway, welcome back! This is very refreshing news to me. I will be following it with much interest. TY!
- Carlos Ayala
We should all just organize a "Tech Blog Strike", unsubscribing to those blogs that only push press releases. Let's see how they sweat when they see their subscriber count falling...
- Jorge Escobar
Obviously my previous comment was "tldr". I just wanted to say how great it is that a person in your position is able to repurpose his content to better fit the goal you are trying to reach with your content. It's a great direction to take in a time where most blogs are just trying to echo up to the top.
- Derick Valadao
Excellent post on the state of the blogging nation.
- Sheila Thomson
My only real problem with tech bloggins is how easily ideas take hold and spread to get page hits. This is very easily seen in the Vista hatred - there was never any objective reasonf or it... but it was so useful for traffic generation and looking cool that it was rampant.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
It's probably less about the business/tech divide, and more about me-too echo blogging
- Dave Pelland
I think so... tech bloggers are jsut as easily victims of peer pressure and memes as anyone. Once an Idea ("love google") defines someone as "getting it" then few will look at it objectively.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
This is a welcome breath of fresh air. Fantastic.
- Pete Gilbert
Scoble. Great post. Agree completely.
- Tom Quinn
Super excellent post and, ironically, exactly what blogging is all about. One good thing about an economic downturn, it will weed a lot of fluff out of the infosphere -- with less incentive to act as promotional platforms for startups, blogs may get more informative about using established tech.
- Sprague D
Great article Robert. It is your authenticity even more than your tech blogging that has made you the great writer that you are. Anyone can report Apple's earnings yesterday. You have always had an honest voice though that makes your writing stand out.
- Thomas Hawk
The take away is 'sensational headlines'. Add to the "Rumor:" and we don't need this stuff unless it's coming from a tabloid format site
- Charlie Anzman
Blogging is about saying what I want to say, and sharing things that I like with anybody who cares to listen. I'm not interested in driving traffic (thank goodness) or repeating what others have said, but contributing to a discussion.
- Chris Nixon
Great post Robert. Very good read and right on the mark. I religiously read feeds in Reader, but only a few that help me. I love Lifehacker. Almost everyday I find something new and useful to my job.
- Gary Schmidt
The Techie audience thirsty for knowledge is much smaller then the Get-rich-quick audience, but the largest demographic are the Free-lunch boys. The blogs with the most revenue have tricked their advertisers into believing teenage boys are business decision makers.
- paul mooney
I love tech bloggers and the things they write about. The good ones will always come at a common topic from a different angle and I just LOVE that because it makes me think outside the box and start connecting dots all over the place. Robert you are definitely one of those bloggers that I love to read and I don't think any of the ones I read have failed me.
- Devlin Dunsmore
from twhirl
Awesome reading! THX a bunch!!
- Ronald
I have to agree about the comments system though. One thing that we started to see a while ago was data portability and being able to communicate accross services. I think Disqus does that quite well and it's a great first step to making sure that the comments system becomes a little more useful on blogs.
- Derick Valadao
Well said Robert, left a comment, said my piece, cheers!
- Steve Spalding
Wow, an impressive and honest assessment of some major issues in the techblogosphere.
- Richard Akerman
Robert - I'm not in the tech industry. But I love what lots of tech stuff has done for learning stuff in my life and for others. And I want to keep on learning. You've certainly helped me here - I wouldn't know a fraction as much about using Friendfeed productively, for example. Glad we're going to see more of this kind of stuff. Welcome back.
- Tom Landini
Knocked it out of the park. If we can just get back to being geeks again, a lot of this drama will calm itself...
- Jared Smith
Great read, but kind of depressing the way things have gone. I just like being a bit geeky and all things will work out in the end.
- Alan Ashley
from twhirl
Shripriay, you hit it on the head. It is a shame that all the tech bloggers just wants to be Engadet or Gizmodo these days.
- Harold Gilchrist
from twhirl
Nice writeup Robert. I enjoyed your detailed analysis & history of the situation. Perhaps you can lead us in a new direction?
- Mitchell Tsai
i read the tech bloggers then try to actually use the gadget. would like to hear more results from the usage angle.
- Lee Kent
Shripriya, I agree with you wholeheartedly. My original comment was much longer but got cut due to length. I wish more blogs were like Louis Gray and Lifehacker which take a step back and then hit us with posts that are useful/interesting almost 100% of the time. Zero Punctuation is a great example for the gaming crowd--one post a week, internet fame.
- Derick Valadao
Hmm... A Scoble article I like.... Is this the Seventh Seal? Seriously, you're right on in that the echo chamber of groupthink has made tech blogging boring and predictable. I think there's a few people out there fighting it, and FF makes it easier to find them. I think you're off on the business side, though... I think it SHOULD be about the technology, but the entrepreneurs coming out of the Valley have made it necessary for us to discuss the business side by not having solid business plans.
- Jason Carreira
Anyway, hope this is a sign of things to come from you.
- Jason Carreira
Thanks Robert. Great read, and perspectives. Love to see more on productivity, like Lifehacker. Just became a GTD convert BTW and loved the David Allen piece.
- Jericho
Thanks for that Robert -- perspective is key.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I'm sorry but those that don't scale are toast, from a commericial and traffic standpoint. I know that is part of the point (varying aims and objectives of blogging etc.)
- Alex Hammer
Slap your self and get back on that horse Robert. You have NOT failed us. Human nature makes us want what we do not have. For some it's page views/revenue, for trolls it's attention, and others it's n-list status. The rest of us are looking to quench our thirst for knowledge. And please give our group a little credit. We have become ever-so-skillful at weeding out those sources that do not provide this knowledge. I repeat...You have NOT failed us.
- Andrew Smith
I appreciate what you are saying, and am glad that others share the same opinion as myself. What happened to being the guys who always had some tech trick that seemed like magic to the uninitiated? The joy of tech for me is showing that magic to others and getting them interested in what's out there too, and lately we have all become business whores a little bit. I look forward to the future content coming from you, and getting back to what made tech cool in the first place, the tech itself.
- Aaron Krug
One of the things I value most about Robert is his inner homing mechanism. He's very prone to get lost, but something always shakes him loose and he re-calibrates. Or is that re-boots? (Kind of like iPhone 2.0 now that I think about it.)
- Michael Markman
I agree w/ your article, Robert. The wonder that makes so many of us interested in tech does get lost at times- I never saw tech blogs as the place for that stuff, but appreciated it when I found it there.
- anna sauce
Alex: While scaling is necessary if you want more people to view your content, why should that come at the cost of the content itself? Too many startups are trying to replace a solid marketing plan with social media and end up trying to use big blogs as a means to advertise their product and ride the traffic tail to customers. From what I gather, this tends to make jaded bloggers who...
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- Derick Valadao
I kinda find this funny.. the comments are so distributed between FF channel and Scobles blog channel ? which one am I too follow ? I mean yesterday we had this big huge augments about cluster and fragmentation of conversations. So Robert, here's a suggestion. Turn off comments on your blog and let your readers comment on FF only. Else dont post your blog entry to FF and break your own...
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- Peter Dawson
I just approved a bunch of comments that were held in moderation. Now there's 88 comments over there. Whew.
- Robert Scoble
melmcbride: good point. It's easy to just stay on FriendFeed all day. It's hard to come up with something new to say that takes more than a short paragraph. Damn, I'm sounding so old school. The neat thing is when I do a longer blog is comes in here and improves everything.
- Robert Scoble
i think this is part of the echo chamber that is the silicon valley. people who live there use the "new" thing for so long they soon get sick of doing it. they are same people who think everyone elses use technology the same way they do and feels the same way they do.
- Jonathan Jesse
Scoble steps out of the bubble and takes a breath of fresh air... hopefully more follow or we're going nowhere fast.
- Harish V
I thought this was great! Robert, I think what I hear is your desire to just do whatever the hell you want to without regard to "The Man". Go for it. You of all people can do that!
- Elliott Ng
Robert the real issues is that everything really only needs to exist once. Conversations don't neeed to exist in many different places. Your blog comments and the conversation here are all the same conversation. I'd love to explain the solution as i see it but it'd take too long.
- Anton Mannering
Robert I am still lost- How can you profess to be be a convo aggregator , yet approve 88 comments on your blog ? @Anton, no Blog comments and these comments on FF, are two different sets of conversation happening on the same topic. Lets not confuse this fact !! There is a fork in the convosphere.
- Peter Dawson
@ Anton: I sort of agree with you, but i don't think comment fragmentation is all bad. Sometimes well-written comments appearing somewhere else can draw attention to good ideas. If I don't subscribe to a particular blog but see the feed posted here on FF, I'll pick it up and then maybe I'll go straight to the blog. There's value in fragmentation along with the frustration.
- phil baumann
I think a service like disqus should be used so that friendfeed comments on links to blog posts (with comments therein) will all show up no matter which medium you use to discuss them. Does this exist yet? I thought disqus would have this covered by now.
- Derick Valadao
Great points as always Robert. We're with you on this.
- Missionary Broadcasting
Peter: I approved about 40 that were being held in a moderation queue. I don't let newbies post a comment on my blog because then it'd be overrun with spam. FriendFeed has a much better system to protect against spam than my blog's comments. I think that it'd very cool if I could replace my blog's comments with FriendFeed, but that'd require an API that would make a URL, return it to my blog, and get it linked in, all really quickly.
- Robert Scoble
I haven't read the comments here, but feel I can comment. Robert, as someone who as known you for five years now - just before the mania began - I am pleased to hear this. What got me into your blog in the first place was your ENTHUSIASM for technology, particularly GTD. Never let that go. You be you. I will be me. And everyone else will be everyone else. In the end, you gotta follow what you love. It works for everyone from Steve Jobs to the Pope. Your friend online and off - SR
- Steve Rubel
@ phil bauman Ok 2 things. First of all I didn't say it shouldn't appear in many places. I'm saying that if you're in Roberts comments and I'm on Friendfeed then we should be able to see ALL the conversation from both. But it need not exist in a whole bunch of places only be visible from there. Second I think the argument that there is value in fragmentation is similar to saying there is value in using a ploughshare pulled by an ox. Ther is but not to most people.
- Anton Mannering
@ Robert Scoble: Interesting you should mention your blog comments being friendfeed. I know a startup or two working on those problems. In reality though the issues become way bigger when such a service is subject to really large numbers (non-tech crowd). Solving those problems is where the fun and games are and I only know one startup with a real solution for that.
- Anton Mannering
Ironic, isn't it--the influences (PR, marketing, big media) the original bloggers were trying to break away from are--surprise-- still here and the game hasn't changed as much as we thought. PR people still push their stories, tech and news blogs focus on a few big name co's and start looking like traditional media, etc. What's needed is more of the energy, enthusiasm and original thought that Scoble and others brought to the game earlier on--otherwise, we've only duplicated the old media on a new platform.
- mark ivey
I send you a tweet also but I believe that I must also write here how spot-on was your post... I can't wait to see more real Tech news coming from you and I hope that this will force other bloggers to remember how they started back then...
- Manos Matsakis
This is clearly your best post ever. Thank you for all of your hard work. I read your blog because it entertains me. I would love more posts "sharing geeky things." On the other hand, if you blog about news, technology, and a few pro-company biases, that's nothing to be ashamed of. Just because you (or any other blogger) do not provide a perfect balanced news experience does not mean that you have failed. People are responsible for finding their own news this day in age.
- Brian Wilson
Great post and I totally agree. "What's needed is more of the energy, enthusiasm..."
- Eric_T
Great stuff Robert. As blogging and social media continues to spread outside of tech and into other niche industries and verticals, those of us facilitating and evangelizing that spread should continue to look back at this post so history isn't repeated. See you at the Ritz tonight.
- J.J. Toothman
"I think that it'd very cool if I could replace my blog's comments with FriendFeed, but that'd require an API that would make a URL" - yeah I second that motion. If I had a widget that could do that but with bi- directional flow , that would really be a convo aggregator. This will certainly be an interesting challenge to some of the geeks out here !
- Peter Dawson
You can, if you're willing to give up the content. Glenn developed a great plugin that allows for bi-directional flow. It works for Wordpress and (I think) Blogger http://blog.slaven.net.au/wordpre...
- Steve Spalding
Great timing :) I got strange looks this weekend when I said that I don't review anything that has been 'pitched' to me - but rather things I discover that I think are cool. I discovered something this weekend at BlogHer that I will review. But no one sent me a press release. :) It's just a really neat gadget!
- Lucretia Pruitt
I think you should watch the movie 'Resurrecting the Champ' - its about a Writer. Drew the analogy to your post and the movie (that I just happened to see yesterday) http://mrinal.vox.com/library...
- Mrinal Desai
Enjoyed that rant, Robert. I'm not a tech geek, I don't read techmeme or techcrunch as the gist and trends can be followed here on FF, but I do read blogs like yours, Louis, Jeremiah and Hutch's, mainly to learn new things. Before FF I had never heard of Rescue Time, Jott, Evernote or TSheets for example, but hearing about new ideas and then experimenting with them myself, well that gets me interested and excited. The corporate enterprise stuff leaves me cold, it isn't nifty or flexible enough for users.
- Sally Church
Nice post. The PR influence bit reminded me of this article by Paul Graham: http://www.paulgraham.com/submari.... Agree to the fact that Tech blogging has been less 'tech' than it was a couple of years ago.
- Nikhil Dandekar
I loved the rant earlier yesterday, and even more impressed by the ff reaction. My take on your blogging, having followed you since MS days. Stay on what you think, not what others think. Avoid the whole Gillmor Gang bs, and associated groupthink.
- Bankwatch
I think that every new medium matures as it becomes possible to make real money at it - this is inevitable. I don;t think it will be the death of blogging certainly but we are in a new phase. Older blogs will mature and still keep that flavor or they will stagnate and die. The personalities will decide that. One of the things I like about your work Robert is the enthusiasm. Sometimes it makes you a bit naive, others it makes you a little to fast to declare something game changing but it is always good input
- Soulhuntre
Robert, just read your wonderful post now, and I'm still fascinated by it. I'm commenting here because I know you'll read here first. You know, this competition that you were taking about, almost cause me to stop blogging, but then I realized that I'm writing because I like it, so as far as I'm concern, I'm not trying to compete anyone, this is why I'm taking things easy and on my own...
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- Orli Yakuel
Orli: you know me too well! :-) Yup, agreed. Just do it because it's fun. The problem is that posts that make us all smarter don't stick around very long because of the flow.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, maybe it's because 'blogs' are not so unique anymore. Lets take Friednfeed for example: everyone can get noticed here just because they favorite picture on Flickr or dugg story on digg (regardless if they writing a blog, or giving any other opinion in the subject) this and other massive content mixed up together on a daily basis is flowing so fast, it almost seem that if you'll...
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- Orli Yakuel
New blog post: "Identi.ca implements the Twitter API" http://www.scripting.com/stories...
Jerome Paradis, James Williams, Brad Collins and 14 other people liked this
Not suprising, as they appear on the surface to be very similar services
- Ian May
Very smart move on their part...
- Ron Emrick
This is great news. Thanks for sharing.
- jen robinson
from twhirl
But, just like the Twitter API, no search API is available. At least they thought about RSS feeds for the text search.
- Rob Diana
Whats needed is a common standard for friend relationships. then twitter, identi.ca, etc compete to be the medium
- Aziz Poonawalla
Aziz, there are a few "friend" standards alread, FOAF and XFN, as well as the open social and social graph stuff. Identica using the Twitter API gives you the same friend access as well.
- Rob Diana
Rob: theres a way to "see" my twitter friends using identi.ca? I googled but didnt find details on how.
- Aziz Poonawalla
Aziz, sorry I must have misunderstood you. The API is not "cross-platform", I was saying the Identica API is identical to the Twitter API. Not that you could see Twitter people from Identica.
- Rob Diana
Rob: no problem. yes, what i was getting at is a universla "friend" standard so your friend relationships are independent of the services (twitter, facbook, etc). this would remove the "network effect" catch -22 of any new service
- Aziz Poonawalla
Pretty wild, actually. Will (does?) identi.ca do an SMS short code gateway?
- Chris Brogan
"just worked" is the way you want stuff to work :-)
- Dave Winer
trackback from cmswire (near the end): http://tinyurl.com/6bdx9b
- john conroy
Retweeting @jmspool: Bush Tours America to Survey Damage Caused By His Disastrous Presidency: http://www.theonion.com/content...
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How to think about identi.ca - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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Again, One Clueless Person Destroys the Privacy Of Millions ( http://mashable.com/2008... )
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That is very disturbing.
- Corie
Oh cool more digital shit hitting the fan... be interesting to see if they go after persons from overseas as well - if not I am safe for the time being at any rate. Still - crapola dude...
- Dave Gray
Another entertainment giant seeks to destroy its own customers!
- Christopher Harley
Identi.ca Early Adopter Tips - http://www.sarahintampa.com/sarah...
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Jun 17, 2008: Firefox's Download Day at Worldwide - http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event...
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I'm going! :)
- Aaron Myers
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