"Today we are launching version 2 of the FriendFeed API for beta testing. We focused on making the API simpler to use, and we added number of compelling new features." Documentation: http://friendfeed.com/api...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
nice, good to see OAuth support, this will enable a larger 3rd party ecosphere around FriendFeed, I hope
- Jeroen De Miranda
After going through the documentation and playing around with some feeds, I love the fact that you can now see the subscriber lists of people who have their feeds set to private as long as you are subscribed to them and authenticate (mimicking the main site functionality). One thing that's absent is a discussion of Direct Messages. Do they show up in feeds if you authenticate? How do we find just direct messages?
- Mark Trapp
Mark: direct messages are accessed using the feed ID "filter/direct". Read more about feed IDs at http://friendfeed.com/api.... Also direct messages appear in the "home" feed.
- Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: ahhh, I see it now. I missed it when skimming that list over. Thanks!
- Mark Trapp
Can you post the wget version of the command line?
- Gabe
Gabe: wget --user=bgolub --password=passwd --post-file=MyPhoto.jpg http://friendfeed-api.com/v2... should work. In theory. Edit: nope. I'm not sure it's possible to do with wget.
- Mark Trapp
Gabe: wget doesn't support multipart forms as a design decision. If you post a file, FriendFeed returns a 404, and if you post data, the query is too long for wget to handle.
- Mark Trapp
Woowoo, bgolub's password is “passwd” ;-)
- Amit Patel
Amit: I wonder how many people tested that :)
- Benjamin Golub
Thanks to bgolub posting his password, I now have all of FriendFeed's secret documents about notorious users, useless metrics, Justin Timberlake's promoting FF on Oprah's show, hiring Colbert as a spokesperson, Ev Williams being just a “distraction”. TechCrunch is going to love this! ;)
- Amit Patel
Yes big big thanks to the whole team for all their hard work!!
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
from iPhone
I couldn't say. I don't use FriendFeed that much. -]
- Chris Loft
or you wish your blog integrated FF comments!
- Valeria Maltoni
Valeria: You could always use DISQUS third-party commenting on your TypePad blog. DISQUS now offers easy FF integration as well as slightly more complicated Facebook Connect functionality. Stowe Boyd uses DISQUS on his TypePad blog though he doesn't have the two features I mentioned switched on. http://www.stoweboyd.com/message...http://www.disqus.com
- Daniel J. Pritchett
You wish there was software specifically made for FF!
- Egyirba
have heard that lots of spam comes through Disqus and I already receive my fair share :) TypePad has not played nice with many applications, including the "share this" button. It was an innocent thing and it wracked havoc on the blog. Yes, Stowe Boyd and I had a brief exchange on Twitter on that. Thank you!
- Valeria Maltoni
Good point, V. I get plenty of spam to my blog and it's probably a lot less popular than yours. (edit: You have 40x my feedburner numbers!) There's a "report spam" feature but it still requires more effort than I appreciate.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
LOL! You gave me a good chuckle.TypePad has a very good spam filter and system (so far). 40x? Nah. I have so few comments :)
- Valeria Maltoni
Hmm. A bit over a decade ago, I remember getting momentarily confused trying for the hyperlinks in a print newspaper on the 'continued on page B3' text. It hasn't happened since. I haven't yet had the experience of looking for the 'like' button.
- Michael R. Bernstein
OT ho risposto al tuo commento...ripeto se è un problema tolgo subito il post
- catepol
lol! ... hand in the air!, tho maybe somewhat still in denial....
- Gregg
I am in love with FriendFeed, Scoble's posts and Twitter! I have never in my entire life, loved anything like I like Social Media! I am TERMINALLY ADDICTED, with no cure in sight.
- J. D. Ebberly
someone just left a comment on this post at my blog saying there's nothing to do on FriendFeed - thought I'd share with this group. You all seem to enjoy being here :)
- Valeria Maltoni
Scoble's gone. (Let me rephrase that - Alex's brother is gone.) I'm still here, and apparently we die-hard loyalists aren't yet so few that we all know each other! Just discovered your latest article this morning - 12 reasons - I'm SHOCKED I didn't discover you long before now. But every word you wrote in this post, almost two years ago, is still true!
- Auntie Buttinsky Botts
What a nice surprise to find this thread revived. Which is also one of the strong points of FriendFeed. Things don't disappear into oblivion like Twitter, or Facebook for that matter. I find that FF allows me to be more thoughtful.
- Valeria Maltoni
I use Twhirl and keep it on the "Me" button. That shoes all threads I've replied to I can manually refresh it and get the newst posts if there are new posts.
- Patrick
from twhirl
I don't like Twhirl, I am looking for a native solution.
- Mona Nomura
I've tried to come up with a search term that captures @replies but it's not an exact science: http://friendfeed.com/e.... Other than this if you go on NoiseRiver and your comments anything that mentions your name is highlighted in yellow, which is very useful.
- Kol Tregaskes
Twitter threaded comments would be welcome too, though not sure how to implement this?
- Kol Tregaskes
One option is to provide two modes/views: Current (flat) or threaded/nested. Choice could be in the settings or behind the More -menu, for example. This way everyone would be happy.
- Jemm
No threaded comments please it just leads to more chaos in long entries
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Perhaps limit the depth to just 1 thread? I don't really want a reddit-looking site but threaded comments would be cool in some way. #betakoltag-sg-postscomments
- Kol Tregaskes
I would very much enjoy threaded comments as an option so one could choose not to use it if they didn't like it. I would also like to see an option for timestamps on comments.
- Tony Miller
it would be nice as an option, perhaps including controls for depth and sorting
- Mike Chelen
the lack of threads in comments makes it more difficult to follow smaller conversations happening within a post when you have tens of comments under it. I hope this feature comes soon.
- Davide D'Incau
Instead of indenting for threaded view, how about this: when you click on a comment, its ancestors (there would only be one at each level) are highlighted in one colour (perhaps with shades to indicate generations), and its *immediate* (so that you aren't overwhelmed) children in another. For colourblind users we could draw boxes around the comments or something.
- Karl Knechtel
That way, you can read through in order, and reply to things without worrying about multiple indents making things unreadable (the above mentioned "reddit look" - it's worse at failblog btw), but you can still easily figure out the context for a comment that was in reply to some other specific thing.
- Karl Knechtel
I have mixed feelings about this. Just look at slashdot or imdb forums - looks awful.
- Ahsan Ali
agree .. threaded comments(if that means little tab and answer specific comment) - in fact, comments AS (mini)posts, just under the main posts .. grading. ... rss of comments. ffrequest .. posting on checkbox to blogger , and/or wordpress (they are big) :]
- pb:
Awesome job; favour? Next time you run into Zuckerberg can you tell him no, I will not be his nice Jewish boyfriend. I mean yeah I do like the nerdy hoody look, but I'm looking for someone with more direction, more ambition: knows what they want outta life and are not afraid to reach out and snatch it. And also to quit face stalking me :-)
- The Real sofarsoShawn
from iPhone
It was a great delivery. Loved the focus on simplicity, and one of the best explanations of the social graph ever.
- Bill de hÓra
I almost fell off my chair when I saw those simple lines of code. At that point Bret, Mark and The Facebook Team deserved, at least, a standing ovation.
- Lula Rocha
Oh there's gonna be some waves of backlash on this one I'm afraid! I understand why the opt-in on the personalization on profiles, but not sure it was a good idea without some global initial prompt to opt-in for the user. Reminded me of the google buzz roll out. But you did look very smooth and relaxed. Zuck stills needs to loosen up a bit though.
- Phil Ashman
Well, I couldn't listen because the stream doesn't aggregate. There are still dups out here. You might have made provision for them.
- Melanie Reed
Phil, no Publicly Available Information was added in this launch. All that data has always been available (well, for the last several months at least). What Facebook added was privacy controls around that finally. Facebook added *more* privacy, not less. Have you seen what Google and Twitter profiles reveal to developers by default?
- Jesse Stay
That was a great and ground breaking keynote. As a recommendation engine provider we are following closely.
- denizoktar
It is amazing how Bret can simplify APIs and make it sound so easy. The url centric API design is awesome and it reminds of the clean urls at Friendfeed. Thank you Bret
- Shakeel Mahate
Nice job Bret. Very innovative and complete, I'm blown away actually!
- Chris Myles
That was pretty amazing - it's clear you have had a huge influence on what Facebook has done since they brought the Friendfeed team on board. Oh, and I like Fuki Sushi too - I used to go there when I lived in Palo Alto, but the name always made me titter ... and you had to pair it with In and Out ... c'mon you guys did that on purpose right? Yeah, OK, I'm 12.
- Laura Norvig
"There are two kinds of people in the world: Disney people and Bugs Bunny people. Disney people want to deny reality and live the fantasy. Bugs Bunny people deny the fantasy and make fun of reality." - Paul
Was that a Paul original? I'd have to say I'm with Sparky...
- Eric Borisch
The wording was a little different, but yeah. It would be interesting to see how cartoon preference correlates with other things. For example, I would expect that Disney people are more likely to be political extremists (left and right).
- Paul Buchheit
That's interesting Paul. I see the very flip of that; most of my hardcore Disney friends (most of them work(ed) for Disney) are very uninterested in politics, whereas the WB fans are extremely political.
- Anika
Disney wins at yet another level. It is not only interested in erasing the real by turning it into a three-dimensional virtual image with no depth, but it also seeks to erase time by synchronizing all the periods, all the cultures, in a single traveling motion, by juxtaposing them in a single scenario. Thus, it marks the beginning of real, punctual and unidimensional time, which is also...
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- zeroinfluencer
Disney is the 'real' America, everything else is faux, so says Baudrillard
- zeroinfluencer
We have transferred FriendFeed to Facebook's data centers, which has fixed many of the ongoing performance problems we have had with the site and will provide us more room to grow.
We still have a handful of ongoing issues with services like IM, but most everything else should be online. We will update you all here when everything has been transferred.
- Bret Taylor
It's as bad now as it was last night when I gave up on it. Is there something else wrong? Something at my end? Or are others still experiencing poor performance?
- Kol Tregaskes
Shortly after my last comment I started having some problems again, both with the bookmarklet and long waits for comments to post.
- John (bird whisperer)
Seems like the problems are actually worse and things slower after the transfer -- so I don't think any performance problems were "fixed".
- Brian Sullivan
Thank you very much! I had been wondering about friendfeed-reservation-02-07-snc1.facebook.com (69.63.180.52) resulting from ping. It seems that SSL https connections are not working -- switching over to plain http for now helps. Is there a plan to somehow integrate FF services with FB? (FaceBuzz ;-)
- Adriano
Is https still broken for you? It was broken yesterday, but was fixed last night at approximately 9:30 pm PDT.
- Tudor Bosman
https was working for me as was the bookmarklet (which seems dependent) - but is now broken again. Just started working again.
- Brian Sullivan
FriendFeed is very fast for me again. Fantastic work. Thanks!
- Meryn Stol
just, please, don't let this thing die. just don't.
- LaurazetaTL
ummm...things seem to be broken again. I'm seeing comments disappear and I've got people showing up in my feed that I'm not subscribed too and aren't Friend of a Friend (which I've got turned off)
- Sir Shuping is just sir
Yeah just noticed a thread of mine where the comments vanished... after several refreshes they are back but it was still confusing!
- Lindsay
cevdet ne yaptın..ingilizce yaz..thanks bret.
- aynebilim
i dont know how you will bring back the disappeared comments. i hope you will find a way to do it. because, i really really think that, friendfeed is going a way back down. performance issues are alot we faced lately.
- Bahriye
The disappearing comments are sometimes reappearing, so they're not gone gone...I made another comment on a post that had lost its comments, and they all came back.
- Jandy
... also wondering if the database has changed from MySQL to something else like Cassandra at FB.
- Adriano
Brilliant work guys, thanks so much for putting in the effort!
- Glenn Slaven
thank you for keeping this site up and running
- chaz2b
I'd really love for IM to come back. :/
- Marcel Weiß
Could things like this also be posted to your friendfeed feed on twitter?
- Just Joe
I still will not open my account, when you resolve that?
- Profesyonel Öğrenci
"Rather than trying to replace Microsoft Office, as Google obviously hopes to do, they’ve picked a niche on which to focus: Team meetings for workgroups much like the Team Apart team, separated by geographical distance but connected by broadband. A Team Apart meeting room can be filled with notepads, whiteboards for freehand drawing, images, web pages, and live video chat windows for participants. The meeting rooms, reachable at teamapart.com but stored in the cloud somewhere, preserve the materials from their last meeting. ss1Without thinking, I instantly liked holding meetings at Team Apart. The lightly-colored default design is simply appealing — it’s got Web 2.0 style without being overbearingly so. The rooms aren’t overbuilt, so they’re easy to operate via the few buttons at the top. My meetings never go beyond four people, so the four-person restriction in the current free version isn’t a problem. And I have the option to use a still photo instead of a video feed as my avatar, for those times I don’t feel like being watched while I eat during a meeting."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
It's only a matter of time for someone does something like this for Wave as an extension.
- Ray Cromwell
Ray, the broadest, most general product isn't always the best or most successful.
- Paul Buchheit
This, to me, would be a logical extension for FriendFeed as it moves into business, with real-time chat on the side.
- Louis Gray
Paul, I agree, but that applies to Friendfeed too :) I love the FF UI, how stripped down and uncluttered it is, it does exactly what I want. But if FF+FB forces me to log into Facebook now and view FF functionality as part of the larger FB UI, I'm not so sure it will be as appealing anymore. I still want to go to FF directly, I'm not really interested in FB features.
- Ray Cromwell
wah!? The timing would be interesting for me because I just had a big "discussion" with a friend last week about how I won't join Facebook because it's not open like FriendFeed.
- Ben Reierson
Well considering FriendFeed had investment rounds aroung $5m (If I remember correctly) a 20x return would put it around 100m, so that would be a good guess.
- mikepk
Maybe I don't know enough about FF, but what is everyone so bummed about?
- Katie Wynne
^Exactly. The purchase in and of itself doesn't mean anything. Personally I'm happy, FB probably saved FF's ass financially speaking in the long run
- LANjackal
from IM
I think some think that it's a bad idea Tsega because FF represents a *vastly* superior content platform than Facebook and some might be concerned that Facebook would end up killing FF as we know it and trying to assimilate us all into their inferior product.
- Thomas Hawk
there was no "long run" to save FF from financially. It's Founders are loaded. They had the luxury of ample financial backing to run it for a long, long time. It will be interesting to see their reasoning on why they did this if in fact it is true.
- Thomas Hawk
For me, FF and FB have two separate purposes: FB is for communicating with my IRL friends and FF is for consuming and sharing content with everyone else, but then I've been on FB since it was select universities only, so maybe I have an outdated opinion of what FB is. They need to keep both products.
- James Myatt
once upon a time it was "don't be evil"..
- Cristian Conti
Seriously, Is this true? OMG this would be the worst thing ever!!! This is a joke RIGHT??!!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
chances are FF will be nuked. There's not much in it for Facebook to run two separate networks. The wording that Bret chose to use on the blog pretty much paints that case in my opinion. FF is worth so much more for it's potential than for it's users and I think Facebook wouldn't care if they lost 100% of the current users if they get unfettered access to implement the best tech ideas into their current product.
- Thomas Hawk
yeah, the phrase "for the time being" is a scary one.
- Ryan - @magicofpi
As in, "Friendfeed will continue to operate for the time being."
- Ryan - @magicofpi
The team will probably be locked into a 2 year employment with Facebook while their equity fully vests and then will end up jumping ship. This acquisition will likely make Facebook a little bit better, but we probably lose FF in the process which is too bad.
- Thomas Hawk
I was kinda hopin FriendFeed would open source some of their sauce but I guess now that's even less of a probability.
- matthew john ernisse
I don't have a good feeling about this. :-( Why have two services with so many overlaps. FF will be integrated into FB in the long term.
- Kol Tregaskes
gee, i step away from my desk for an hour and all heck breaks loose
- Imabug
you'd better delete any content (photos for instance) you posted in your feed that you don't want FB to own when they get their claws in.
- Joe The Sausage
When I look at how I used FB and how I use FF (which I am still new to) FBs purchase would actually suck in my world. I only use FB to keep up with my fam and friends and I don't do that very well because I loathe the interface. FF is fresh for a newer user like me. Adds a lot of value in terms of the knowledge sharing that goes on here. To think that this service would get sucked up by...
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- Michelle
Agree with many of the comments on here. I'm concerned Facebook will basically just take all of FriendFeed's great properties and fold it in the large kingdom that is Facebook. A great service, FriendFeed may just become FB's Twitter. (Funny, too, that we're mourning the potential demise of FriendFeed on FriendFeed. Kind of like the newspaper biz writing 1000s of articles about its own demise in its papers.
- Keith Trivitt
But all my extended family is on FaceBook! Where do I hide now?
- Ted Gilchrist
Keith - well, now we know what happens when Facebook gets jealous...
- Ryan - @magicofpi
Yeah, it's been pretty useless for me. It crashes consistently. I still have it installed but don't use it. I'll try it again when it gets updated.
- Vaughn
I bought Tweetie when it came out and I still like it - both on the iPhone and the MacBook. Haven't been tempted to switch.
- Brian Rendel
Tweetie is easily the best Twitter client for the iPhone.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Is it fair to do the comparison now when there are so many continuing problems with Twitter? Or is this a trial you've been doing a for a while, Robert?
- WoH: Minding her Steves
I saw the show for the first time today and really liked it, was actually surprising, specially the part were you face what most would not ever do least of all live on camera, that takes courage, and really shows a commitment with excellence, great energy and value for your followers, kudos.The set is way to dark I know you might be going for a look that focuses on the speakers, still,...
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- Carlos F. Sam Castillo
or maybe he's got a double life, daytime geek nighttime the big oscar winner LOL. That would be interesting if we have Apple WWDC and Oscar at the same time.
- Amiroo ™
I get this all the time! He's my stunt double!
- Robert Scoble
I always thought that Seymour Hoffman was Scoble's alter ego. I bet they have never been photographed together. Coincidence? I don't think so!
- Keith James Designs
Pretty close. :) Seymour Hoffman maybe underrated but he's a superb actor.
- jan geronimo
not that you don't get star treatment already ;) but you could walk into anywhere channeling PSH - best tables and autographs baby!
- BEX
I have thought that for a long time. Nice.
- Ben Hanten
It's Philip Seymour Hoffman's biggest role to date!
- Joshua M
Ok, to disprove the conspiracy... I propose that this *Robert Scoble* shave his head and appear in public. Although, I suppose PSH could just wear a wig.
- TINY REPTILIAN PYROMANIAC
I heard they're really twins separated at birth.
- imabonehead
I was just watching State and Main yesterday that "the big secret" had been revealed to me
- Amiroo ™
I am certain @scobleizer was used as a double in Doubt.
- Bernie Goldbach
Hehe... I've mentioned that to my wife several times. If they ever make a movie about Scoble, Phillip Seymour Hoffman it is (or vice versa).
- LionelatDell
man, i can't wait for theming groups...(and being able to permanently block spammers)
- Zee.
the problem that I keep harping on is that the API is seriously behind all this cool stuff and the metadata (appears) to be lost when you get things via IM
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
great interview, good to hear that subscription to search will become available the coming months! makes it easier to implement a private customer support group, as Paul mentioned
- Jeroen De Miranda
"Then the company’s CEO got up on stage, introduced himself, took out his Nokia smartphone, called some random guy in the audience and had him call him back on his phone afterwards. Projecting his mobile phone screen on a bigger screen for everyone to see, he demonstrated how he didn’t need to launch an application and just browsed his contact list to call the other person. Standard functionality, sure, but the cool part of it was the fact that the phone was lacking the presence of a SIM card, which is supposed to identify you as a subscriber of a telephony service."
- Wang Yip
from Bookmarklet
"I was intrigued. By now you’ll have guessed that the calling was done over Wi-Fi, which I suppose isn’t really unique even if it made me wonder how they did it without launching a third-party app like Skype. Looking to learn more, I went to their official coming-out event the evening after, when they presented the newly founded company to a host of local geeks in more detail, giving them the chance to beta-test the service for a couple of weeks to iron out bugs before launching publicly."
- Wang Yip
Seesmic changes direction and Loic Le Meur gives a brutally honest assessment (video) <-- must watch if you're into seesmic, a techie or web entrepreneur - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
Definitely the right move. I look forward to seeing the new site as well as the iPhone app when they release it. I know it's more of the norm in web/tech companies but it's really refreshing to have people who run companies and make business decisions communicate those directly to the user base instead of through some PR person.
- Mike Bracco
i don't think the accents too bad really - heck, its a french accent...not much can be done there
- Zee.
Yeah I must admit his accent has gotten me once or twice. But I quite enjoy it.. Does everyone have to sound the same all the time? On the video, I must say I like his decision and the passion he shows for that decision. Looks like it was tough but he did it.. Kudos
- Rasmus Lauridsen
@lelapin His accent is not CA-based, obviously, but Loic speaks with his heart, not reading a PR. You may see it as not prepared where others would just see genuine sincerity.
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
accent? hey he's french, the things is what he says not how he says. good luck @loic
- FullSite
Perhaps he should have just given it in French - I love speaking French - It's a lot nicer language to listen to when compared to English. And @Loic, about your accent - never try to loose it.
- Robert Freeze
Yeah I can clearly understand what Loic is saying so I'm fine with his accent. Regarding the actual message, I'm thinking that this is a smart move as well. Starting to build community from ground up and bringing videos back later might be something what we read later from web business related books as an example. Well.. at least if he succeeds.
- Petteri
I remember writing that this wasn't going to work when Scoble et al were singing Seesmic's praises. Geeks often call me an idiot (like when I predicted the Kindle would do well), but I'm usually proven right in the end. This is the problem with Silicon Valley, IMO. Too many of you guys create only for yourselves, expecting the wider world to think and behave like you do.
- Dawn
i guess i'd give more props if they hadn't raised TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS... loic's a fine leader and all, but there's just something amiss with the amount raised and the lack of success on the investment. then again, maybe this'll get them where they need to be... ?
- Jeremy Toeman
i support loic and this move, you people need to be less focused on the funding here.
- sean percival
good for you. you people need to stop lumping us people in with each other.
- Jeremy Toeman
i say that not just to these comments, sorry, but to comments left all over the place on this news.
- sean percival
but maybe some of us feel it is extremely relevant... are we not entitled to feel that way?
- Jeremy Toeman
Must be a hard move for Loic, but its the right one if there is no growth in video, you can't build and maintain a company based on it. I wish him and his company the best.
- Kim Landwehr
To be able to openly admit your product and direction needs re-thinking is admirable. Frankly, I thought he was a brown-nosing walking cluster of fluff, but this makes me see him in a completely new light. Best wishes to Loic and Seesmic.
- Mona Nomura
He's making the decision that is necessary for the company to move on. Why is he doing that? Hes doing it to protect amongst other things those "TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS" that have been invested. Most companies don't start out making the products that they end up finding competitive advantage in. A good leader is not afraid to take a company in a new direction when it is needed. It looks...
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- Rasmus Lauridsen
@loic Hard move! but the best choice these days; you've got all my support big guy (if needed) ; )
- ledretch
lelapin, maybe we could find you a board titled "really great accents that know nothing about business" you would feel more intelligent commenting on. I am sure Andy Grove had an unbearable accent when he arrived here but thankfully he did not take his accent and his company back to Europe early in the game. I think that to highlight someone's accent and miss the business lesson is the...
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- Chad Harris
I agree. This is the right move for seesmic, and I am happy that it was announced in this fashion. Leaving stuff like this to PR people or some random web site announcement wouldn't have nearly the same impact. With that said, what a great use for video....
- Josh Asbury
Impressive! Now you can save real time searches as embeddable widgets. That's just awesome! This is a massively POWERFUL feature. Thank you FF team!
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Lol, you flipped the switch before the post came out as far as I can tell. I was searching for it and I couldn't see it.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Yowsa. Makes quick easy work out of social media monitoring, don't it?
- Ian Wilker
YAY!!! FriendFeed staff rocks, that's all there is to it =)
- FFing Enigma
Congrats Paul to you and your team! Another one bites the dust!
- Jorge Escobar
WAAAAAAAAA.. meta real time search.. love the concept of embed a real-time search !! Way to Team FF -- luv u guys !! :)-
- Peter Dawson
Do you guys sleep? Honestly, love the constant output and attention you guys pay to user feedback. I know this highly requested and probably not easy to implement.
- Frankie Warren
@Jesse: It's a dead twitter command "track keyword" sends you realtime updates whenever the word is used. Think of it like realtime google alerts for friendfeed.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I'm pretty sure Gillmor et al kept calling it "track" because that's what Twitter called it back when they had it for a week.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
On a related note, live embeddable searches mean that I can hack together my own FF embeds for the pages that don't have them yet, like say "comment:dpritchett" http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel, Twitter never had this - this isn't "track"
- Jesse Stay
The blogpost said they're working to implement "keyword notifications" Jesse, that will be "track"
- Frankie Warren
Twitter's brought back track, it's just no one cares. You can now have updates by keyword on Twitter pushed to you, via XMPP, just like track used to. Gillmor says that's not track.
- Jesse Stay
That's why I hate the term "track" - no one knows what it is. The way Paul is explaining it, as real-time search, is a much better way of explaining it.
- Jesse Stay
I guess we're still missing the realtime notifications piece that folks want. You can shape the firehose to watch terms in realtime but you can't yet get it pushed outside of FF via email or IM?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel, Twitter has that right now, but Gillmor says that's not track
- Jesse Stay
/me prints up a few hundred "That's not track!" t-shirts
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Jesse: Oh, i'm with you... Real-Time Search is a better term :)
- Frankie Warren
BTW, integrating this into my blog right now
- Jesse Stay
Me too Jesse. Making a new static page for that comment:dpritchett search I mentioned
- Daniel J. Pritchett
this is definitely cool and all, but what about API? We are falling way behind on feature sets :)
- Tim Hoeck
It's like an alternative to watching TV, in a literary sort of way.
- Ted Gilchrist
Yay! This is the killer feature (once it's in the API, of course ;)
- Brandon Titus
I'd love to see a blog post about how this is implemented. Real-time search has some interesting problems.
- Chris Lamprecht
I take it back - I can't integrate this into my blog until I can filter it to a single list. I really need an embed for "comment:dpritchett list:e20" except lists are still virtual in that no one other than me can see them unless I use the atom export.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I am sloooooooooooow. But what/where is the template to make the embeddable widget. please?
- Marg Uerite
You're right Jesse - it's not exactly Track but it's getting a lot closer. The old Twitter Track allowed you to set up multiple search terms (e.g. track iphone) and get those delivered to your IM with zero time lag. At any time you could type "track" to see what you're currently tracking and "untrack" to untrack something - e.g. "untrack iphone". There are some third party tools that...
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- Mike Doeff
Paul, is there a way to change the title of the embed? The long search string looks kinda bad.
- Jesse Stay
Mike, Twitter offers that today. Gillmor says it's not Track.
- Jesse Stay
Marg, after you do a search, click the "Share / embed search" link to get the embed code.
- Dan Hsiao
Jesse, are you sure? Can you provide a URL describing this feature? I think you're referring to Twitter Search (and saved searches) which is totally different.
- Mike Doeff
Jesse, when / where did Gillmor say that isn't track? I'm pretty sure that Steve just wants the old track brought back, with some filtering capabilities added (the old Track didn't filter out blocked accounts).
- Mike Doeff
Yay! Have been eagerly awaiting this. :)
- Rick Turoczy
Mike, he's said in various comments. Looks like Track to me... Heck, it's even called "track".
- Jesse Stay
I want to 'Like' this *twice*! many thanks!
- 我是真砂!
The first step in a storystreaming platform!
- Kevin Sablan
Whoa. Wow. And Yes! Fantastic work, FF team.
- Micah
Good stuff although should support negative operators such as I should able to search my name in the all posts NOT coming from me. I've tried "from:-username" but it doesn't seem to work.
- Ferruh Mavituna
OK, you guys are wicked talented! It's kind of scary, but I love it. So what's next? Just kidding:)
- Michael Fidler
Ferruh: you just have it a bit backwards... try -from:username instead :)
- Ross Miller
WOOOOOOOOOOW. Friendfeed is really pushing some cool features out :). Friendfeed is the best :)
- alfred westerveld
Highly addictive--great stuff! I did notice that if you do a search like [google] you'll see dupe stories streaming by quite a bit (e.g. the TechCrunch story about Google Voice shows up over and over right now). Not sure if it's possible to de-dupe based on destination url a little bit more?
- Matt Cutts
two months after redesign, we have access to real-time search. good news bc my preferred search engine is friendfeed. ;)
- Friendfeed's Francisco
We are there, in the battle against Twitter
- Michael_techie
I can't say enough how amazing this is. So, I ordered a bottle of real-time translation to go with this magnificent feast of real-time search :D http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Micah
Just to show what is possible now with this feature, I've built SteroidFeed: Go here to see it as well as download the files: http://friendfeed.com/lph... Latest version is 1.01.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Official Google Blog: Let's make the web faster. Good discussion topic for Building43. How can we all work together to make the web faster? - http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009...
Erica, putting it in the footer helps a lot, but it will still make the browser animate and potentially delay other js from executing, which will slow the page. External JS and CSS are a big cause of slow web pages.
- Paul Buchheit
Do you think eliminating spam would speed up web traffic? (Kind of like trying to eradicate cockroaches in Texas though)
- RobinDotNet
Get rid of all the hackers and spammers jamming up servers and bandwidth :)
- LPH™ and his dog P™
iTbay: already done that! Paul: we should do a video with you about some of the things you've done at FriendFeed to make this consistently one of the fastest sites I visit.
- Robert Scoble
Google needs to add PHP support in App Engine, it'll make all Wordpress blogs, phpbb forums and mediawiki sites faster when hosted for free on that.
- Charbax
Make like the old days ... stop using full URLs internally. (Of course, you 'might' lose a little SEO juice too ?! )
- Charlie Anzman
@robert that would be a great interview with @paul
- andy brudtkuhl
Charlie, the feeds need to have full URLs, and it's a pain to use different URLs in pages vs their feeds.
- Bruce Lewis
I'd like to know what they use to decode incoming emails. My use of metamail+lv is a hack, and I'd like to know what cleaner tools are out there.
- Bruce Lewis
Regarding Analytics slowing down page loads, I was surprised to see that it's not always its fault. Per https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bu... the status bar in Firefox does not always blame the correct resource when the page is hanging.
- Mihai Parparita
i'm trying desperately not to be cynical and cringe at all the shiny happy people in the video telling us that they just want to make the web faster because, golly, that's what people want and it will make the world a better place, tra la la -- without mentioning how it might benefit Google financially ("Google Internet! Now with more ad impressions per second!") the Steve Souders quote...
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- Karim
i think there are a lot of good technical ideas already around (e.g. jumbo frames, IPv6) but getting everyone to implement them is another story. so i'm not sure how much "making the web faster" boils down to political consensus-making on existing solutions, and how much of it involves radical changes like replacing TCP/IP.
- Karim
Paul: I just have "0.0.0.0 www.google-analytics.com" in my hosts file
- Gabe
Making the web faster is a result of building proper web sites. The subject should be "Let's build better websites so they perform faster".
- Gilbert Harding
Ah, but what constitutes "proper" or "better"? There are a lot of subtle details to page (let alone ajax/dhtml) optimization that are not well known, and plenty that is only now becoming well-understood by those of us who deal with it daily. The tools and techniques that Souders and many others are working on should help everyone who cares about making their sites/apps faster. @Karim:...
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- Joel Webber
Joel -- if the justification for a faster internet is "glaringly obvious," then why does Google need to mention it on their blog? not only does it deserve a mention, but *research,* quote: "...our research indicates that people prefer faster, more responsive apps." File under "Duh?" News Flash: Google Research discovers people do not like eating excrement. Film at 11. if they bothered...
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- Karim
Amen to those asking for less use of scripting and GA in particular. Scripts are dangerous and GA slows us down. I run noscript on my machine and deny GA as a matter of routine. when I encounter a machine with scripting tuned on I notice the impact on page load times. If hosts provided decent, powerful and pretty stats packages as a matter of course site owners would not have to use GA. @gabe: Null routing google-analytics.com FTW !
- Mark Zip
Off-domain ad networks are even worse than GA.
- Gabe
Distributed processing methods such as HTML5 in-browser database, similar to Google Gears, can make a user's experience less dependent on central server performance and network latency.
- Mike Chelen
If the Pre works as fast in practice as it does in that demo--I am IN! I am sick of waiting on my (slow) iPhone all the time ( a geeky complaint perhaps--but true.)
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
If the demo was of the data, I would have my doubts, but it's the calendar. I'm optimistic, since information is goign to be stored in the cloud as opposed to locally (like the iPhone). I can't WAIT.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
For me--the Calendar is a very big deal. Palm was always great at it--my biggest iPhone gripe has been the slow (local) calendar.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Did you see the accordion like motions? I like it more than uber scrolling like on the iPhone.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Mona, agreed--Palm totally 'gets' calendars--and the whole PDA thing in general.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Jeez, I should hope so - they've been in the business forever haha! RIM should be worried, not Apple.
- Mona Nomura
yeah, thats pretty retarded stuff. love the dragging on the calender. nice improvement over iphone. this thing is really well thought out...
- tommy payne
from twhirl
Dragging appointments on a palm device--a great feature that Palm has had for YEARS.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
LOVE that - makes life so much simpler. Right now I'm using Google calendar because I REFUSE to use MobileMe. GoogleCalendar (love Google) but the unintuitiveness makes me want to Hulk Smash my screen. And can you imagine? No more cables. No more synching. Omg, I am getting excited.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
I love how ex-Apple employees are kicking Apple's ass in it's own game. These guys should start an Industrial Design school. They could teach the world a thing or two. Like I said earlier - http://is.gd/jF31 - Pre/Nova UI > iPhone UI.
- vijay
this really shows you what's the value of running multiple apps at the same time. The home button UI on the iphone sucks for multitasking.
- Davide D'Incau
Mona: when you say "since information is going to be stored in the cloud" where is it stored? At Palm? Your Google Calendar?
- Benjamin Golub
after watching this video it made me wonder why nobody has incorporated flight status into calendars? if we can bring in real time weather, why cant we check on flight status and make the necessary adjustments automatically?
- Chad Stoller
When that guy was typing "andr" I immediately thought of Android
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Benjamin: For the Pre, it would be Palm. @Chad - That is a very good question.
- Mona Nomura
While the Palm intrigues me, I'm more interested to see WebOS on a multitude of Palm devices. A Centro or Treo Pro-type device? A horizontal as opposed to portrait QWERTY? WebOS has some real potential behind it.
- Mike Nayyar
Exactly, Mike - I've been saying this from day one. I am excited for Nova, not inclusive to the Pre. If you look at Palm's job search site, they have tons of hardware related engineering opportunities - http://www.palm.com/us... I can't wait to see the next form factor!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
They could even put WebOS on a netbook and call it Foleo 2 ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, idea: Asus is releasing a touchscreen EeePC, right? Put WebOS on that...whoo nelly.
- Mike Nayyar
I'm a fan of both the Pre and iPhone, but note that part of the Pre's performance comes from the significantly faster CPU and more system RAM. They're the same specs the new iPhone runs, so they can both be quite snappy. That said, AnandTech did some real benchmarks and the Pre needs some optimization. The iPhone outclasses a bit in web surfing, but a LOT when it comes to app startup times.
- David Chartier
"Google Translator Toolkit is a new tool being launched today to help translators organize their work and benefit from shared translations, glossaries and translation memories"
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
I implemented translation memory, etc, for FriendFeed's translation system. Wonder if we can use this easily for our next round of translations. No time to look into it this week, but if anyone outside of Google uses it, let me know how easy it is to integrate with external projects.
- Bret Taylor
Bret, I'm not entirely convinced by the translation interface. And depending on the format of your source files, it might not be suitable at all. Unless I'm missing something here, something really important to note is that there's currently no way to download or export your TM from Google Translator Toolkit. If that is indeed the case, I can't imagine they'll get away with that for very long though.
- Tony Ruscoe
from fftogo
I still find it easier to translate using trados on word. Old habits die hard..But given enough time, we might say bye bye to trados and its €xxxx license fees..(Lacks .xls and xml support right now)
- Kenan Atalay (nitro)