"Cut in black by default, this decal fits iPad perfectly… Also you can use it in your laptop, car, kitchen, wall or everywhere you want!"
- AJ Batac :)
from Bookmarklet
I'm tempted to stick an Apple white decal on the back of my HTC EVO. Freak out the fanboys.
- Jack&Cleo
What if, in the end, the Toxic Asset Relief Program so controversial at birth and vilified throughout its two years of life turns out to have turned a profit for the government and the taxpayer? We — most of the news media this is — simply don't know what to do with this news. The suggestion that TARP did not blow a hole in the federal budget potentially blows a hole in some other presumptions as well. Still, the expiration of the program as Sunday turned to Monday passed largely unremarked. And insofar as the media have noticed the story of TARP's apparently much-reduced cost, that tale has been anything but ballyhooed.
- Ramit Sethi
"UFOs have monitored and possibly tampered with American nuclear weapons, according to a group of former Air Force officers who will make their claims public next week at a Washington, D.C., news conference. "While most of the incidents apparently involved mere surveillance, in a few cases, a significant number of nuclear missiles suddenly and simultaneously malfunctioned, just as USAF security policemen reported seeing disc-shaped craft hovering nearby," says Robert Hastings, author of "UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites." On Monday, at the National Press Club, Hastings will present six former Air Force personnel who will break their silence and disclose dramatic first-hand experiences with UFOs at nuclear weapons sites. In a statement, Hastings said, "At long last, all of these witnesses are coming forward to say that, as unbelievable as it may seem to some, UFOs have long monitored and sometimes tampered with our nukes.""
- Sean McBride
from Bookmarklet
"Hastings' co-host for the news conference, ICBM launch officer Capt. Robert Salas, was witness to a UFO incident in 1967 that, he says, caused a missile disruption at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana, and he was ordered to keep quiet about it. "The Air Force is lying about the national security implications of unidentified aerial objects at nuclear bases, and we can prove it," Salas...
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- Sean McBride
Wow -- just got around to checking out the "Changing Images of Man" document -- thanks much for that.
- Sean McBride
And Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince come across as fairly rational people -- not to be instantly dismissed.
- Sean McBride
Some Picknett/Prince topics noted: ancient Egypt, ancient Gods, Andrija Puharich, archetypal symbols, black ops, Changing Images of Man, channeling, CIA, Council of Nine, creating doomsday cults, creating a New Age religion, cultural engineering, ETs, experiments with belief systems, Freemasons, hard-headed military and intelligence types, hypnosis, lust for mass self-immolation,...
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- Sean McBride
Bottom line: thousands of credible UFO and ET reports from all over the world *may* be based on concrete reality, AND high-level secret societies and intel agencies may be manipulating and gaming these stories and symbols for their own purposes. These are not mutually exclusive models of the world. OR: the entire field of UFO and ET activities may be a Masonic project, a manufactured...
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- Sean McBride
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- I like big Botts
Well, duuuh. Where did we learn about nucular technology in the first place? They were just making sure we were doing it right.
- Kenton
Here's a thought: if UFOs and EBEs were for real, and if the PTB (Powers That Be) were determined to keep a lid on the truth, it would be useful to promote the belief that the worldwide flood of sightings and reports on the topic was the product of clever and manipulative stage magic manufactured by the government -- a scenario far less stressful for the general public than the truth.
- Sean McBride
Spencer Ackerman's snarky tone is cliched, intellectually lazy and not useful. What is useful is data mining the entire database on this subject to see what interesting patterns turn up.
- Sean McBride
Sean, the best explanation I have seen for why EBEs don't just land is to be found in the Ra books and L/L Research channellings. Nothing is scientifically provable, so you can read it as interesting science fiction if you like. Online at http://www.llresearch.org/library...
- Private Sanjeev
Thanks for the pointer. As someone who has delved into quite a bit of theosophical literature, I feel comfortable with concepts like this: "Probably the most difficult thing to understand about Ra is its nature. Ra is a sixth-density social memory complex. Since Earth is near the end of the third-density cycle of evolution, this means that Ra is three evolutionary cycles ahead of us. In...
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- Sean McBride
First Steve Schwartzman, head of the Blackrock private equity company, compares the Obama administration’s effort to close billionaires’ tax loopholes to “the Nazi invasion of Poland.” Then hedge fund mogul David Loeb announces that he’s abandoning the Democrats because they’re violating “this country’s core founding principles” — including... - http://silas216.tumblr.com/post...
You'd think fuckos who already have a truly unreasonable tax break - their /management fees/ are taxed at the much more favourable capital gains rate, despite not actually being investment gains - would keep a low profile.
- Andrew C (✓)
Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. There's nothing but cliches. Nothing AT ALL but cliches in this speech. None. Zero. Nothing but cliches. Did she say ANYTHING at all?
- tehKenny
"The genetic signature of canine slobber on a bait bag of chicken scraps and a fuzzy photograph from a motion-sensitive camera north of Yosemite National Park have confirmed the existence of a red fox, thought to have been all but wiped out, the U.S. Forest Service announced last week. "The last known sighting of a Sierra Nevada red fox in the Sonora Pass area was some time in the 1920s," said Mike Crawley, Bridgeport District ranger. "Needless to say, we are quite surprised and excited by this find." Federal wildlife technicians Emily Crowe and Julien Pellegrini were checking hundreds of photos when they came across an overexposed image taken at 2:17 a.m. Aug. 11 of what appeared to be the rare red fox — with its characteristic white-tipped tail — trying to get at the bait bag dangling from a tree."
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
"The Sierra Nevada red fox (Vulpes vulpes necator) lives at high elevations, eating small mammals and birds. It has a reddish head, back and sides; black backs of the ears; black "socks" on its feet; and a white-tipped tail. But the only known population of the fox is roughly 20 animals clinging to survival in the Lassen Peak region, about 150 miles to the north. DNA analysis of saliva...
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- RAPatton
I got this in my email a couple of weeks ago- it is in my colleague, Sherri's, district. :D
- Jenny R
Also, Emily Crowe was one of the undergraduates I mentored. This is so awesome!
- Jenny R
That is pretty cool to see one of your protégés involved in such a find
- RAPatton
Two of these live on my grandmother's property in Maine. They're so cute.
- Colette
Indeed it is. They were requesting any spare remote cameras we might have, to try and set up camera traps for these foxes. I am excited to see what they find.
- Jenny R
Neoconservatives, Likudniks, Christian Zionists, Greater Israelists, Old Testament cultists, Judeo-Christian fascists and neo-Confederates have taken over and destroyed the Republican Party. It's finished.
And they have made substantial inroads in the Democratic Party as well -- see Harry Reid as an example.
- Sean McBride
How many years have people been saying this? LOL. Amazing how the left goes out of their way to bash every religious organization, but defends to the end islam.
- Spencer
Spencer, you tool...nobody is "defending" Islam. What you fail to recognize is that ALL of the monotheistic religions have this negative outcropping in their extreme forms - INCLUDING Islam. That, however, is not what has run rampant among the GOP.
- Prosey BUTTONS!
Spencer -- Most of us are defending the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights, and fundamental American democratic values -- this isn't about Islam. Bible-thumping Confederates launched a disastrous war against America in the mid-19th century, and they now appear to be up to their old tricks. Do they really believe they will succeed this time around? Do they appear to be any smarter now than they were in the 1860s?
- Sean McBride
a quick search on Wikipedia concerning Bible Thumpers: Quaker and evangelical religious groups condemned slavery as un-Christian. the first British abolitionist organization was founded by a group of Quakers. The first American movement to abolish slavery came in the spring of 1688 when German and Dutch Quakers of Mennonite descent in Germantown, Pennsylvania (now part of Philadelphia)...
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- NoahDavidSimon
imagine that! The well-established colleges, such as Harvard, Yale and Princeton, generally opposed abolition. hmm... all 'em red necks were a bit more progressive then 'em elite eh?
- NoahDavidSimon
There has always been a major split in American Christianity between enlightened progressives and reactionary fundamentalists. The Confederacy was largely fueled by Christian fundamentalists who relied heavily on the Old Testament (over the New) for their brand of white ethnic nationalism and racism. See Kevin Phillips' "American Theocracy" for an excellent introduction to the subject....
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- Sean McBride
"There were many causes of the Civil War, but the religious conflict, almost unimaginable in modern America, cut very deep at the time. Noll and others highlight the significance of the religion issue for the famous phrase in Lincoln's second inaugural: "Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other.""...
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- Sean McBride
Kevin Phillips: "I am beginning to think that the Southern-dominated, biblically driven Washington GOP represents a rogue coalition, like the Southern, proslavery politics that controlled Washington until Abraham Lincoln's election in 1860." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...
- Sean McBride
Thank you for another terrific book recommendation, Sean. I was reading a few different review's of 'American Theocracy' -- and there is a strong component in it that will be beneficial to my dissertation. *salutes*
- Prosey BUTTONS!
prosepetals: Glad to be of service. :) I've been touting Phillips' book for quite some time, and still think that it is one of the most insightful analyses of what has gone disastrously wrong in American politics over the last decade. A major implication in his thinking, as I read it: we may be on the verge of a second US Civil War, largely organized around the same cultural conflicts...
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- Sean McBride
Agreed...and I've been saying similar things based on various observations over the past 15 years or so, but hadn't read anything specific with personal, professional, and academic backing such as this. He's got a few books of note that are added to my wishlist now for eventual reading. You & I have discussed previously many similar points of view on this topic, and I always enjoy reading your perspective.
- Prosey BUTTONS!
slavery in the bible was not based on race. neither were the slave sellers... (mostly the Arabs) using race as their justification from the Quran. you might however if you do your research find a lot of derogatory opinions of black folks because Babylon was briefly conquered by black slaves called the Zanj during tha Abassids and were a huge thorn in their society and it's ability to...
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- NoahDavidSimon
another fear of black folks in the Arab world was because the Berbers wanted autonomy from the Arab world and were even at one time led by a black Jewess in a war against the Arabs in Africa. If I remember correctly... they were a heresy that neither sided with the Abbasid's and the Meccan upper class or Ali.
- NoahDavidSimon
Regardless... contributing the Civil war to the bible is just plain stupid.
- NoahDavidSimon
if I may also remind you the Arabs were taking White People as slaves. that was why Thomas Jefferson probably would of sided with Newt today. he knew exactly what Islam was all about. He understood it was a form a sedition against our constitution itself. Islam is government. sadly we can't draw the line on Mohammad because obviously there are offshoots that have schools of teachers who...
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- NoahDavidSimon
We can not judge a religion by their texts... only their teachers. this Mosque in NYC being planned is clearly in league with the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Azahar University... which is clearly violent against Jews... not just Israel...not to mention they are killers of Gays. historically the first genocide against Jews was Mohammad, but if a religion wants to say otherwise we don't have the right to put words in their mouth
- NoahDavidSimon
the flotilla passengers were mentioning Khaybar. that was a genocide that Mohammad did himself. Even if the Jews were oppressors, the shear level of murder and mayhem did not justify the attack. in Judaism we have the forced conversion of the Edomites... but our rabbis teach us this is what led to King Herod and the end of Israel. this is the difference between Islam and Judaism. yes the Jews were documented to do bad stuff... but to what proportion? ...and is it condoned by our teachers?
- NoahDavidSimon
See also: book; Mark A. Knoll; The Civil War as a Theological Crisis; 2006; University of North Carolina Press http://www.amazon.com/Civil-W... "In an informative account of the theological dramas that underpinned and were unleashed by the Civil War, Noll (America's God) argues that mid–19th-century America harbored "a significant theological crisis."...
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- Sean McBride
for it to of been a crises tells you there were Xians and ...yes Jews on both sides of the war
- NoahDavidSimon
Noah -- you are trying to smear Islam with a broad brush -- the same tactic that antisemites use to try to defame Judaism. Quite a few extremists can be found in all major branches of monotheism. Regarding Thomas Jefferson's views on religious liberty, see a wonderful collection of his thoughts on that matter here: http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist... Jefferson disliked religious fundamentalism in general, but was tolerant of the expression of a wide range of religious views.
- Sean McBride
Noah -- in case I wasn't clear, nothing in the above comments should be interpreted as a critique of Judaism as a whole. In fact, Judaism on the whole historically has been in the forefront in promoting universalist ideas about human rights. Many Jews were inspirational leaders of the civil rights movement in the United States. Most neo-Confederates are self-described Christians, not...
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- Sean McBride
*bookmarks* (and I'm glad I chose the nuclear option with Noah ages ago...)
- Prosey BUTTONS!
Michael Bloomberg must be going senile. these issues are very complicated and not for the weak
- NoahDavidSimon
it is ironic that todays African American was bound and chained because they were resisting Islam before we knew what it was.
- NoahDavidSimon
Jefferson clearly was threatened by Islam because the Barbary Pirates and made a note of it. do a google search on "jefferson and islam"
- NoahDavidSimon
no one has to smear Islam. Islam has schools that decide their ideology. I am willing to accept Mohammadeans outside of these schools.
- NoahDavidSimon
One of my favorite quotes by Jefferson is in there: "Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person's life, freedom of religion affects every individual. Religious institutions that use government power in support of themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths, or of no faith, undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of...
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- Prosey BUTTONS!
More Thomas Jefferson on religion: "Religion is a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously reserved. I have considered it as a matter between every man and his Maker in which no other, and far less the public, had a right to intermeddle."
- Sean McBride
pardon my spelling of Druzes not Drews. as for your assumption on Jefferson... let the man speak for himself. Islam is clearly documented as a contemporary government by larger Islamic schools of thought.
- NoahDavidSimon
Noah: if particular Muslims or Muslim groups break the law, there are clearly established laws to handle that problem. If they don't break the law, and respect the US Constitution and Bill of Rights, they have every right to freely practice their religion in the same way that hundreds of other religious sects practice their beliefs. That is the American way, the Jeffersonian way, the Enlightenment way, and the modern Western democratic way.
- Sean McBride
let Islam speak for Islam. Let Jefferson speak for Jefferson. do a google search for both
- NoahDavidSimon
I'm not sure what your point is. All religious expression is protected in America under the U.S. Constitution, as long as it violates no laws. There can be no equivocation on this sacred core principle of fundamental Americanism. Christianity enjoys no superior status in the United States over Judaism, and Christianity and Judaism enjoy no superior status over Islam.
- Sean McBride
your denied correlative... guess what it is? I'm going to give you a hint.... Islam is not a ________! go ahead and fill in the blank.
- NoahDavidSimon
Noah -- prediction: at some point you are going to realize that you have wasted a tremendous amount of time and energy trying to defend an indefensible and un-American position with regard to Islam and the practice of Islam (and of all religions) in the United States. And you are probably going to blame Israel and Zionism for leading you down such a self-destructive path. You've been Bernard Madoffed. Taken for a ride. Awake from your slumber.
- Sean McBride
There are still people left on FF who have not blocked Noah? Sean, are you well?
- JCunwired
from Android
JC -- I go out of my way try to listen carefully to those who most disagree with me, and in the case of Noah, I am glad I did. His writing style and efforts at engaging in rational argument have actually improved quite noticeably over the last year or two. He's moving in the right direction. There is hope for him yet.
- Sean McBride
thank you Sean. I said some nice things about you recently as well. I believe you to be proportionally honest compared to most of social media... including my allies. I don't trust your sources, but what you do with them has been in general fair. that said... you seem to think I will be hurt by my allegiance to Israel. you seem to believe me to be a religious zealot at heart. you could...
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- NoahDavidSimon
Noah -- I've always sensed that your views on Israel and Mideast politics were much more complex than those of a typical religious fundamentalist, and this interesting last comment of yours sheds some light on the details of that complexity. I am actually sympathetic to your speculations here and have entertained similar thoughts.
- Sean McBride
In 1786 Thomas Jefferson, then US ambassador to France, and John Adams, then US Ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the Dey’s ambassador to Britain, in an attempt to negotiate a peace treaty with the Barbary Pirates based on Congress’ vote of funding. To the US Congress these two future Presidents later reported the reasons for the Muslims’ hostility...
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- NoahDavidSimon
I never did get a free hug. I wonder what happens when two 'free hugs' people see each other. Do they rush and hug each other, or do they eschew each other?
- Kevin Fox
I'm thinkin' buy the $2 hug and take the free hug too. Average cost per hug = $1.
- Cyrus Lendvay
Hell yeah, pass me one too. I will celebrate this one to the rafters. :D It feels good to know that people as awesome as Tina can win out over bad stuff like unemployment!
- Hookuh Tinypants
Thanks all! Laura, the best description is operations and business intelligence analyst but that's not 100% the job. Basically I get to help setup processes for a company that has outgrown its existing corporate structure and is revamping everything. I should start next week. In the realm of "the universe speaks" this week was my last unemployment check under my current federal extension.
- FFing Enigma
congratulations. I've followed your tribulations from a distance and boy did you ever want a job. Delighted you finally got sorted. Must be a big relief. Well done for staying what must have been a very trying course.
- JSLeFanu
I loved Manute. He was always cracking jokes.
- Rodfather
Holy crap. I remember watching him. Just a crazy unique player. Maybe not great, but memorable.
- Mike Nayyar
Manute was incredible off the court too. This needs to be read: http://www.kansascity.com/2010... He gave every dollar he had to help Sudan, even as his entire family was massacred. He died because he didn't treat a disease gained while peacekeeping.
- Louis Gray
The last time I saw him when he was trying to raise money by boxing Refrigerator Perry. He won!
- Rodfather
"If you think you understand it, you don't know nearly enough about it It will soon be 200 years since the birth of Charles Darwin and 150 years since the publication of On the Origin of Species, arguably the most important book ever written. In it, Darwin outlined an idea that many still find shocking - that all life on Earth, including human life, evolved through natural selection. Darwin presented compelling evidence for evolution in On the Origin and, since his time, the case has become overwhelming. Countless fossil discoveries allow us to trace the evolution of today's organisms from earlier forms. DNA sequencing has confirmed beyond any doubt that all living creatures share a common origin. Innumerable examples of evolution in action can be seen all around us, from the pollution-matching peppered moth to fast-changing viruses such as HIV and H5N1 bird flu. Evolution is as firmly established a scientific fact as the roundness of the Earth."
- Alexander Kruel
from Bookmarklet
Rationality is a means to an end. If you read the links I posted above you'll be able to defend creationism even better, if you still want to do so afterwards.
- Alexander Kruel
Anyway, I'm not sure how you came to refer to the origin of the universe. Neither the original article of this entry talks about it, as it is about biological evolution of life, or the subsequent links I posted.
- Alexander Kruel
And if you are already on about logical fallacies, if order does not arise from chaos without intention, how does intention arise without order?
- Alexander Kruel
"To improve your proficiency, ask yourself the following questions on a regular basis: • In a seemingly serious situation, what nuggets of humor or irony can I find? • When faced with a potentially difficult situation, is there a way that humor could help? Could lead to a better outcome? • Am I funnier than I think I am? Less funny? Who will give me an honest assessment of my sense of humor? • Could I start my next meeting, presentation, or conversation by telling a funny story? • What are the humorous situations in my life that have taught me something?"
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
And I know a group of people that will take this page quite seriously, likely test on it.
- Christopher Galtenberg
This is just some generic education thing, adapted from something else by Robert W. Eichinger and Michael M. Lombardo.
- Gabe
I need to work on my proficiency level.
- Louis Gray
"To avoid overdoing Humor, ask yourself: • When have I used humor in the last year when I shouldn’t have? When it may have backfired? • Do I ever encourage a near party atmosphere because of my comfort with using humor? "
- Clare Dibble
can't be having a near party atmosphere at work!
- Clare Dibble
Actually, the proficiencies guide overall I found super useful when I was there. It is a good to remind you to not see people through a single dimension lens. There are competencies where I excel and others where I suck. That being said, the humor disection is funny.
- Joe Beda
from iPhone
The humor competencies are derived from the Leadership Architect Competency by Robert W. Eichinger and Michael M. Lombardo. May be we need to give Microsoft a break.
- Shakeel Mahate
"The Arizona House on Monday voted for a provision that would require President Barack Obama to show his birth certificate if he hopes to be on the state's ballot when he runs for reelection. The House voted 31-22 to add the provision to a separate bill. The measure still faces a formal vote. It would require U.S. presidential candidates who want to appear on the ballot in Arizona to submit documents proving they meet the constitutional requirements to be president. Phoenix Democratic Rep. Kyrsten Sinema said the bill is one of several measures that are making Arizona "the laughing stock of the nation.""
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
You know what? I have a great idea. I don't believe these GOP people were born in the US, either. I think their birth certificates are bogus. Therefore, they now have to pass a 100-question quiz to maintain their citizenship.
- Steven Perez
...Arizona was also the state that initially rejected the MLK holiday
- .LAG liked that
My dad is trying to organize a boycott of arizona in the Hispanic community. This does not help AZ's case.
- Lo the Baker
from Android
The rejection of MLK holiday was initially pushed by McCain (as memory serves)...*nod* For some of us who have family members who are still in AZ (and who are members of the Hispanic community), imagine how they must feel...or *any* person of "darker" color...*siiiiiigh*
- Prosey BUTTONS!
I wonder if this stuff is gonna have an effect in the coming elections in November. Do you think any one in the Hispanic community is gonna vote republican now?
- Alejandro
@Ciaoenrico: AZ is starting to make TX (where i live) look good by comparison.
- Joe The Sausage
Oh for fuck's sake! Thank you AZ for making me drop the f-bomb this morning.
- Jenny R
are you f---ing kidding me?!?! What is wrong with that state? It's climbing to the top for most f---ed up states..it used to be Florida.
- Anna Lynn M.
So where is McMaverick on this issue, Tea Potters gotta be watching his response
- WarLord
Oh, good job, Arizona. You just got worse. *angst*
- Lo the Baker
Don't even get me started...I just got into it with a friend of mine back home on this subject. *heavy sigh* This particular friend *supports* this bit of legislation...and doesn't understand why I'd get annoyed for having my name brought into the discussion simply because we're from the same city. *grrr*
- Prosey BUTTONS!
Arizona just mandated racial profiling, all but making brown people illegal. I'm betting money that they'll pass this even loonier bill.
- Dennis Jernberg
This is the craziest bill ... I can't believe it!!!!!!
- Sepi ~ سپی
You know what is the true irony - McMaverick was born in the Panama Canel Zone where his Admiral Daddy was stationed - push come to shove his was the more tenuous claim to "Natural Born" not Hawaian born Obama #gottalaughathatersstupidity
- WarLord
Your papers pleaze! Is this America? Really?
- Ken Morley
thx for confirming one more time our prejudices against americans
- کاوه
"Conservative hero James O'Keefe — famous for those undercover pimps and hos ACORN videos — was arrested along with three others for posing as telephone repairmen and trying to bug the phones in Sen. Mary Landrieu's New Orleans office."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
Yeah, love his son-of-acting-US-attorney accomplice as well. Classy.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Even better, one of the guys arrested is the son of the US Attorney.
- John (bird whisperer)
Hehe. He's in real trouble. One wonders what his IQ is.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Getting back to the ACORN story, I never understood how conservatives thought the ACORN staffers believed this guy was a real pimp. Seriously, look at that picture and assume the ACORN staffers have even half a brain in their head.
- Andrew C (✓)
It's clear that there are a lot of people in California who would totally succumb if they moved to the Pacific Northwest. - http://www.facebook.com/profile...
Lack of sunlight, and rain. You'd think it had been raining for years, the way people are going on :D
- Victor Ganata
To be fair, though, I don't think the drainage systems in SF and LA are set up for rain like we get up here.
- Andrew C (✓)
It cracks me up how many people I work with are like "OMG TEH RAIN!!! SO COLD AND WET!!!" Bunch of babies.
- Hookuh Tinypants
Heh ya it's really about floods, mud slides, trees falling, and down power lines. Not so much about getting wet.
- Rodfather
so the snow thing would be like totally out of the question ;)
- WarLord
Snow is fine. We have plenty of skiiers. It's the flooding and mud slides that's a problem.
- Piaw Na
Holy shit, when it snows down at the super low elevations, the entire state bursts into tears. Srsly. I have coworkers who will call in sick because of hail.
- Hookuh Tinypants
I'm still feeling too emotionally vulnerable because of the 'Droplets of Doom' that have been falling for what seems like forever. I just want to curl up in a little ball and cry until it's safe in the Southland again. *speed dials mommy!*
- Morgan
I lived in the Pac Northwest for 13 years. Like WAAAAAAAAAY North up in Alaska. I'm fine right here in California, thanks. :-P
- EricaJoy
"We have skiers" is not the kind of snow I'm thinking about but thanx it answered it for me ;)
- WarLord
I haven't worn a tank top in like 9 days. I think that's a record...or a sign I'M ABOUT TO DIE!
- Anika
Unfortunately, discussions here have gone south... Vocal users have moved to twitter, but there discussions are lost. And then, there's facebook -IFAIC, I try to keep it "private"...
- Panayotis Vryonis
There was an article about how FF's quality has gotten better recently. I don't see it either, which brings a tear to my eye. We had some great, deep discussions on topics over here. That was Friendfeed to me, it was deeper engagement.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
And I can't give Scoble all the credit but clearly he was part of that...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Where DID Scoble go?!... things have gotten awful quiet.
- Thom Kennon
He fell in love with Twitter Lists and gave up on FF after Facebook acquired...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
*wonders if he has transformed into chopped liver*
- Morgan
dave - everyone moved to social median
- Allen Stern
Maybe we just aren't talking about what you want to see? Your FriendFeed != My FriendFeed :)
- Johnny
Once again, the color of the speech bubbles are very telling here. Morgan, Micah, Johnny, Allen have blue. People I'm subscribed to. Names I recognize. The rest of you? White. What are you guys subscribed to, exactly?
- Rah-PM 2012
the italian section of friendfeed is quite vocal...
- Alb.
The problem is Dave that many of the tech influentials, CEOs, programmers, journalists, etc spend their time elsewhere now. There are conversations but they are dramatically different than what were happening six months ago.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I think Itachi said it best earlier. The influentials and the like were the common glue (or routers so to speak) that joined various circles together. The routers are now gone, so now we are left with disconnected LANs. Each hold their value to that island but there much fewer bridges any more at least for the technical community.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
There are still some very interesting conversations that happen here - you just have to be subscribed to the right people. Follow some of the OpenID guys (Micah mentioned a few) - there is still a lot of conversation in that area that goes on here. It's a great conversations medium, much better than Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
Entries on my home feed with 3 or more comments: http://friendfeed.com/search.... You're welcome to modify the number to come up with your own definition of "discussion"
- Benjamin Golub
my FF has slowed down recently - people I used to have regular discussions with are either not as active, or not at the same time I am... as a result I use it less, and it probably trickles like that
- Iphigenie
I think those people who formed a unique community on FriendFeed are noticing less of a change because their community is staying here. Those whose community exists outside of FriendFeed and merely uses FriendFeed as one channel of communication may find more volatility because it's easy to shift to the latest thing. Dave, as someone deep in the tech industry filled with early adopters (and early abandoners) your FriendFeed may be more adversely affected than others like myself.
- Kevin Fox
Dave subscribes to only 122 people -- maybe he needs to broaden his horizons?
- Brian Sullivan
My feed has never been busier, and I'm getting new subs every day. Of course, I'm not very techy so if you are, our paths might not cross.
- Derrick
Building on Benjamin Golub's search: here's the same thing, but for friends of Dave Winer: http://friendfeed.com/search... Looks like a bunch of discussions, several in the last couple of hours.
- Mark Trapp
I think everyone nailed it on this one... FF is no longer the holy land of social media zealot discussion, but has retained a very real connectivity to it surrounding non-tech and some-what tech individuals. IMO, Scoble and the like are not the celebs of current FF, but true wonderful characters like Derrick are becoming them in their absence. If left alone long enough this place could really be cool.
- SAM
Not all discussions are in the main feed either. There's a ton of active groups.
- Rodfather
Kevin should win an award or something for clarity of thought. And to throw in my two cents behind many of the others here, my feed is nuts. I often have to rely on a subset list along with RSS notices just to keep up. Also, unlike the last few months, I'm starting to see a lot of new subs recently. My guess is that FriendFeed is not dead; it was just tired after a long squawk. Seems to be perking up quite nicely now.
- Akiva
Oh, and for one, I would like to see more tech-oriented discussions here. Sure, I'm all about the hyper-hangout that FriendFeed has become but I also miss the hardcore geek-outs that used to occur here. And I just seriously can't get my head around people having the same quality discussions about tech on Twitter that we used to have here.
- Akiva
I actually think the conversation streams and peeps have diversified from more hardcore tech to more cultural, art, cooking! not a bad thing. just a different tone and nature of the conversations. i still like that quote from a FF denizen who said "Facebook is where i hang out with people i already know. FriendFeed is where I hang out with people I'm getting to know." Speaking of FB -...
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- Thom Kennon
I also appreciate the fact that a large majority of users are having discussions in languages OTHER than English.
- Johnny
It's an elegant social network for a more civilized age.
- Goran Zec
Because it counters the thinking (or lack of thinking) of a few social media experts that places like FriendFeed and Twitter and other social networks only exists in western, English speaking countries...
- Johnny
Not everyone has an iPhone, not everyone can watch Hulu, not everyone can play Foursquare, not everyone has unlimited (uncapped) bandwidth, not everyone wants to know the news the second it happens, not everyone cares who someone reads and not everyone wants to talk tech 24/7. I like it outside the bubble :)
- Johnny
Maybe I do need to follow more people, but with the same number of followers there used to always be something interesting in FF to read about and comment on.
- Dave Winer
I also love the non-English. gives the place both a global feel - and reality. I have peeps, clients, etc. around the world and FriendFeed is our agreed great leveler.
- Thom Kennon
People you used to follow here have moved on to Twitter. Not many techies around these days. This leaves the rest, regular guys talking about regular stuff. But maybe this kind of discussions don't interest you.
- Jordi Soler
It's like a garden, if you don't tend to the garden bed, weeds will grow. If you don't prune your roses, you just have dead twigs.
- Johnny
Jordi there are still a lot of Techies - follow Dewitt Clinton, myself, Chris Messina, Dave Recordon even some times participates. Then there's Paul, Bret, Benjamin, Kevin, etc. of the FF Team. Cristo's a techie. I could go on and on...
- Jesse Stay
In fact I probably participate with more techies than non on here.
- Jesse Stay
There are a ton of conversations here and some are tons more interesting than others. This one is interesting. The question is though if you are not having a conversation here - where are you hanging out lately?
- Dan owns Comicsforge.com
Dave, I've been following you since at least 1995, and long before Friendfeed and Twitter. It was because of you that I heard about and joined Friendfeed and I regret the fact that it's lost its momentum since being absorbed into Facebook. There is still no substitute for what FF used to be. But the circus has left town now and there is no way of bringing it back. FF will continue and...
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- Tim Ostler
@Jesse: Perhaps I don't follow the right people then. Anyway, it was not a complaint, it was just a theory of what has happened to Friendfeed recently. More international content (myself) and more "social" posts. Which does not mean that there aren't any techies left. I'll follow your recommendations, thanks!
- Jordi Soler
I blame Facebook for all problems related to any lack of participation over here (j/k)
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Discussions are not missing. They're just harder to find.
- Louis Gray
Jason, it's worth a good hard think and discussion. Posting translated text is a thornier issue (thinking form the POV of the tool maker). It commits to record an imperfect source, with any successive translations further degrading the signal (copy of a copy). Maybe I'm overly concerned about it, but like I said - needs more discussion. Thanks for getting the ball rolling :)
- Micah
@kr8tr tried to hold a 30 min real-time Q&A yesterday via Twitter on "What's it like to be Scoble's boss". I bailed because little way to follow. Twitter search on "@kr8tr" kind of worked but you had to keep refreshing. Google search a little better. But it would have been ideal had he announced it on Twitter (where everybody is) and then pointed to Friendfeed for the Q&A. Not sure there's a better platform for that kind of rt discussion.
- Nick in Manila
Another prob with Twitter in above context is everyone is using different Twitter apps that regurgitate the firehose at different rates so some people see comments much later that others. On Friendfeed, the sequence is at least consistent across participants.
- Nick in Manila
Dave, you might need to broaden your interests.
- zeroinfluencer
Nick: I agree. One little datapoint, though. Since Facebook bought FriendFeed I've gained 14,000 followers on Twitter. That is more followers than all but five people on FriendFeed have. The reason Twitter is popular is, well, it's popular. I'm sad that FriendFeed lost out, but it did. Oh, and Facebook has similar threading to FriendFeed only you have to refresh the page to see new...
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- Robert Scoble
Robert, with the 14,000 new followers, is that a spike or did it follow natural upward trends?
- Johnny
Johnny: it's definitely going up faster lately due to new list feature.
- Robert Scoble
So do we assume conversations are "dying"? (Hate the word, every once in a while something "dies" in the internet...)
- Jordi Soler
It would also be helpful to evaluate the level of conversation that was here and has now left. Quantity != Quality
- Johnny
from iPhone
For each of us it depends who we are following and who is following us, and whether people with interests in discussing certain things overlap in time sufficiently with you to get a conversation going - I guess I need to change my follow profile
- Iphigenie
Vincent you got me there. Of course I knew there would be 33 likes and a zillion comments on this when I posted it. I am such an unreasonable person and you could see that! Your mother must be so proud of her little Vincent. :-)
- Dave Winer
thats why i am out of here and spending my time in boredom ,reading or sleeping
- ffcode
Vincent, the reason there is so much activity on this thread is because the topic is Friendfeed, specifically lack of activity on Friendfeed. People will flock to a topic if they can prove it wrong.
- Jason Williams
from iPhone
I wasn't saying there aren't conversations to be found but I'm talking about his experience. He wasn't seeing any interactions on his posts until he posted about FF. Make your own conclusions.
- Jason Williams
Dave has obviously not visited the Life Scientists room :)
- Deepak Singh
it's a hard sell when you can't engage with your own content, for sure. I'm trying to be better at adding commentary as to why I thought it important enough to (re)post what I (re)post rather than leave it to a bunch of bots to aggregate/shovel it out.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
But he did start a conversation, it's just that it was about Friendfeed so others joined in. Go look at best of day at any time and you'll find multiple items about Friendfeed. It doesn't bode well for a service if the most popular activity on that service is about said service. If you looked at Twitter and saw half of the trending topics looking like (Twitter fail, twitter is dead,...
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- Jason Williams
Jason, I don't comment on my own posts. That's the second time you said it, and you're wrong. I hooked up my Disqus feed to FF so you're seeing my comments there echoed here. Stop being such a wiseass, you're not half as smart as you think you are.
- Dave Winer
I'd love FriendFeed discussions. You can't have them on Twitter because of the lack of threads and you can't keep track of everyone's message. One of my biggest issues with Twitter.
- Patrick
from twhirl
I don't expect anything -- I asked a question.
- Dave Winer
I think Friendfeed is evolving into something quite different of what some people predicted a while back. But it's not dying, no way.
- Jordi Soler
Jordi, what is your definition of dying? Is it different than people leaving en mass (with the exception of non-english speaking countries) and the talent behind the service bought up by a mega-site all the while people arguing weather the service is viable/dying?
- Jason Williams
Good point. Dying as in "Geocities dying". But I see people talking about many things everyday. Just not the same topics there used to be.
- Jordi Soler
OK wait, Dave. First you claim that there are no discussions on FF. Then you say you don't comment on your own posts. The way I was brought up was that a discussion is when you say something, then other people respond, then you respond back, and so on. FF, like most anything else in life, is what you make it. If you don't interact with people here, then you have little basis for complaining (sorry, _observing_) that there are never any discussions here.
- vicster
I don't understand why people think the convo on friendfeed has gone down hill. It is the same if not better then it was before. If you don't like the discussions from the people you are following then find some new people to follow.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
i dunno about other people, but my FF is jumping so fast lately that i can barely keep up...and now it's mostly things i DO want to read about.
- Joe The Sausage
vicster+++ I just skimmed, but this dude sounds like he hasn't been skiing for three years and says "how come no one ever skies anymore?" If you came to the FF mountain once in a while, you'd see my crazy ass every freaking day. I use FF more now than I ever have, more than I ever dreamed I'd enjoy. Now maybe you think the mountain has been taken over by hooligans, and that may be a fair point, but the caliber and content of my discussions do not make them non-discussions.
- Lo the Baker
My conclusion, based on this thread, is that there is indeed some discussing going on on FF. Mostly of the "Neener neener" variety. :-)
- Dave Winer
You can't base your conclusion on one thread of conversation with a topic like this. Why don't go and look for other people to follow and you'll see some activity.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
@Dave: "Neener neener" is the response your comments require lately.
- Joe The Sausage
Of course you don't see any conversations taking place...you aren't even subscribed to me.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
When I said "Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place?" I was (in case it wasn't totally obvious) looking for suggestions not lectures. I'm now following Alex Scoble. I check FF many times each day.
- Dave Winer
Woo! I finally hit the big time! Seriously, though...thanks for the subscription, Dave. Much appreciated.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Dave, what type of topics are you most interested in?
- Johnny
from iPhone
If the FriendFeed community were not so oversensitive, one of the 100 comments above would have answered Dave's question by pointing him to the advanced search form, specifically the "at least _ comments" field and the saved search feature. Then he could quickly find discussions on his favorite topics every visit.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Bruce: That was the 23rd comment, from Benjamin Golub. How more/less oversensitive does that make us? ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Good point, Ken. I searched for "advanced", "comments" and one other term, but didn't find that one. It makes the community 34.7% less oversensitive.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Friendfeed and Twitter lack the depth and breadth of Facebook, no matter which way you slice it. Gather the best minds of our generation, in many fields and areas, on Facebook, and you will not have to complain. Friendfeed and Twitter are, however, useful as secondary feeds into Facebook.
- david beckwith
FriendFeed still saves my stuff, unlike Facebook where my posts are lost in the ether, but I do miss the more active FriendFeed of times past. I think once "best of" became a standard feature, FriendFeed shifted to more family, personal life, etc... discussions rather than "tech" stuff (for better or for worse). Even for techies, new/lost jobs, new/old romances, etc... generated more feedback & discussion than most tech topics.
- Mitchell Tsai