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Watching the Podcast Awards show - and hoping to win one or two - http://www.ustream.tv/channel...
Dave Holle II, Daniel Rowley, Stephen Millard and 3 other people liked this
hey leo congrats on wing the pod cast 4 securety now they wanted u too call them if your listing
- daveccorey
and the GIZ WIZ all so winns way 2 go guys
- daveccorey
congrats
- echostreamer
so happy for you leo twit won best video podcast cool heres the web site for all of the winners at http://www.podcastconnect.com/
- Andrew Villafane
I thought TWIF was a shoe in though, NSFW will be up for 1 next year, great new show that really connects with the gamer community and culture.Good idea to not do a show of game reviews, but instead to simply put up a camera and let gamers do what the do. Great call, great show. Twit cleans up at the Podcasts!
- echostreamer
Great to see The GizWiz got a podcastawards award!
- Peter Costello
absolutely, Giz Wiz is hilarious. Not many shows can fit 1000 one liners in an hour.
- echostreamer
Aboard Emirates to Dubai - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Dave Holle II, Richard pancakhaus Walker, Daniel Rowley and 9 other people liked this
Did you get complimentary yacht wax? Have a good trip Leo
- Johnny Worthington
Leo lots of pictures please, have great time in Dubai, and come home safe.
- Vincent Chen
Now, that's traveling in style! Have a great trip.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Scary thing is that he posted this 11 hours ago and is probably still on the plane. Quite a flight.
- Andrew Leyden
hope your at&t int'l data plan goes better on this trip. I like @ATTSusan for customer care via Twitter as needed.
- Courtney Engle
Skype client can be used over WiFi on iPhone again,. the same other VOIP clients as SIP.
- Erik Trolle
What is this a photo of? Is this in front of the seat?
- Rich Puskarich
engadget: Microsoft Word allowed to stay on sale... for now http://bit.ly/Oav4h - http://twitter.com/engadge...
Dave Holle II and RetiredTeacherD liked this
If I don't want people to read something, I blog it. If I don't want them to respond, I Twitter it. Otherwise I use FriendFeed.
Fajar Nurdiansyah, Daniel Rowley, Ben Hanten and 13 other people liked this
hehehe .. Good thing I wasn't drinking water or it would have pushed right through my nose ... Loren using humor. Who would have thought that was possible?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Flying from Beijing to Xi'an - http://brightkite.com/objects...
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Eric Geller, Tao Wang, Brent - Loving Life and 7 other people liked this
your son looks thrilled to be having his picture taken!
- Bill Kinney
I would be doing the same thing, but at lest I would look up. lol. Hope u are have a great time in China Leo. I know I did a few years ago. :)
- Greg MacKenzie
from Alert Thingy
Brilliant photo !
- Michael Hoskins
Lovely picture of the two of you :) Great shot.
- mahjongmi
A picture of Leo. So he really is there ;)
- Felix Takach
Record jacket mashups - http://www.noiseaddicts.com/2009...
Jordan Hofker, Leslie Poston and Dave Holle II liked this
I had to do a double-take on some of these. These album covers are blended in so well to their respective backgrounds!
- CJ Guest
from Bookmarklet
Just landed in Kunming China!
Phillip Stewart, Dave Holle II, Alexander A. Carde' and 3 other people liked this
Leo and Kevin in China at the same time - sounds suspicious
- Randy Pollock
Waiting for the neewwwsss
- Ozkan Altuner
near Beijing, Beijing, China - http://brightkite.com/objects...
mahjongmi, Eric Geller, Dave Holle II and 4 other people liked this
Nice to see that Brightkite is working in China
- Bret Rowe
Get your riot on
- Will Higgins™
@leolaporte is in China, making audio blogs with an iphone app Audioboo (with RSS) It has maps and photos, too. These tools are so cool!
Daniel Rowley, Marko Saric, Jeff Brown and 9 other people liked this
Day Three Begins - http://audioboo.fm/boos...
mahjongmi, Willem (@wim66) ☠, Dave Holle II and 12 other people liked this
great stuff leo. really enjoying the boos. already subscribed to both you and Don and listening on iPhone.
- kent williams
Yes I agree, the audioboos are really cool, same with all the photos...
- Bryce Campbell
from iPhone
Wow you have been booing like crazy! lol Thank you Leo for promoting this, it's really awesome, made my first audioboo today, loving the simplicity and fun.
- The Tech Canuck
I like this way of listening to your trip. I just downloaded the app, but I doubt my boos will be as interesting, since I'm not climbing the great wall of anything or anywhere.
- Francine Hardaway
Steve Porter's at it again...the ShamWow Remix! http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Justin Rains and Dave Holle II liked this
Documents: FBI Spyware Has Been Snaring Extortionists, Hackers for Years | Threat Level from Wired.com - http://blog.wired.com/27bstro...
Larry Lewis, Dave Holle II and TiTi liked this
"As first reported by Wired.com, the software, called a "computer and internet protocol address verifier," or CIPAV, is designed to infiltrate a target's computer and gather a wide range of information, which it secretly sends to an FBI server in eastern Virginia. The FBI's use of the spyware surfaced in 2007 when the bureau used it to track e-mailed bomb threats against a Washington state high school to a 15-year-old student."
- Bill Romanos
from Bookmarklet
Hmm, think my numbers were slightly high, more like 1.2m+ new users. Still, damn.
Dave Holle II liked this
You now get FriendFeed direct messages (and replies to direct messages) via email. You can also comment simply by replying via email.
Thierry R. Andriamirado, Rick Cogley, karl dotter and 262 other people liked this
This is the first of a handful of direct message and email enhancements we have lined up - feedback is appreciated!
- Bret Taylor
woott
- Tyler (Chacha)
Great job, Tudor! (Tudor did all the hard work on this one: http://beta.friendfeed.com/tudor)
- Bret Taylor
nice work!
- Cee Bee
I love u guys :D
- Johnny Worthington
So.. how?
- Rochelle
Rochelle: if someone sends you a direct message (http://beta.friendfeed.com/filter...) or replies to a direct message you send, you will get an email, and you can reply by email as well.
- Bret Taylor
Nice!
- AJ Kohn
Bret, so there's no option to turn it off?
- Rochelle
Rochelle: there is an unsubscribe link on every email, or you can go here: http://friendfeed.com/account...
- Bret Taylor
NICE!!!!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
That's awesome!
- Parth Awasthi
Awesome! now we can also do it by SMS right? (not IM)
- Alfredo
Bret, how do you get to that URL if it's not typed in directly? Where is the account setting?
- Rochelle
I was wondering what happens when I send a DM to someone who doesn't use beta. I guess after today they will get an email?
- Laura Norvig
Rochelle: at the bottom of every email that you get, there is a link - "Unsubscribe from FriendFeed mail" - that takes you to the link that Bret posted.
- Tudor Bosman
I'm stunned. Cool.
- Micah Wittman
Tudor, there should be a link in the settings to change that. You shouldn't have to get an email to get a link to it.
- Rochelle
seems to work well. jut tested it out with someone
- Cee Bee
Rochelle, there will be, once we convert the settings page to the new UI, possibly before that.
- Tudor Bosman
Rochelle: the email settings are also at https://friendfeed.com/account..., but the Beta is catching up with the account settings UI still. It will be in there imminently, just rolling things out progressively.
- Bret Taylor
Okay, excellent. Thanks for the update!
- Rochelle
Sweet!
- Michael Fidler
Awesome!
- Robert Scoble
Nicely done, Tudor.
- Anne Bouey
If an entry is sent directly to you and as well as other feeds will it come via email? This can be a little ambiguous in my opinion with the potential for people to respond to direct messages that aren't private. I think its a great step though!
- Frankie Warren
Why can't Twitter do this? Oh, yeah, their engineers suck.
- Robert Scoble
Cool... Now my mailbox will seem more full ;)
- Bindu Reddy
How did the DM feature work before this? There were no emails sent when someone DMed you?
- Bindu Reddy
nice
- mike "glemak" dunn
Bindu: this is correct. DMs would only show up in your feed (and in the "Direct messages" filter).
- Tudor Bosman
On the DM feed, does a >> icon indicate privacy or just the fact that it is a DM ?
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
>> indicates that it is a DM. All DMs are private (unless cross-posted to a public feed, or to public rooms).
- Tudor Bosman
I posted a DM to a room ... that's the same as doing a post really, isn't it? I think it disappeared from my DM list.
- Laura Norvig
Yes, a "DM" to a room is the same as a post. Rather, the other way around: if you "post" to another user, we call that a DM.
- Tudor Bosman
What!! than it was not really a DM till now...;) Good work. Did our chat at B&B inspire any of this or was this in the works already?
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu: we've had this (and "a handful of direct message and email enhancements") working internally in some form or another for about 2 weeks.
- Tudor Bosman
@Tudor I see, so the >> indicates DMness, but not necessarily privacy. Do you think we need a privacy icon - like the one we have for private Feeds (rooms) ?
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Got it. Congrats! Good stuff. Though I am not totally sure about sending emails on the comments. It makes total sense for the 1st DM message
- Bindu Reddy
Ahsan: Let's say that you receive a message from me. You can look at the list of recipients. If it says "Tudor Bosman to you", it's private. If it says "to you, Tudor's feed, and FriendFeed Feedback", it's not (it's crossposted to my (public) feed and to the (public) FriendFeed Feedback room).
- Tudor Bosman
@Tudor Right, thanks.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Pretty cool! Is it possible to set this up to an SMS instead of an email address?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
@Scobleizer I get all my Twitter DM's via SMS and have for a long time.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Tudor: i guess it's similar to checking if people were cc'd on an email... but at the same time i think the potential to mess up is higher. especially since the feed paradigm takes some getting used to in the first place.
- Frankie Warren
Mark: not right now. (The message isn't formatted in a way suitable for 140 characters...)
- Tudor Bosman
Frankie: agreed. We may change the way locks and ">>" are displayed to reduce some of the confusion.
- Tudor Bosman
Mark: SMS is not email. Twitter's DM sucks compared to friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
That's still really great, Tudor. Nicely done!
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
@Robert I agree it isn't optimal but many, many people using Twitter don't have a smartphone and still want to get their DM's when mobile. I also agree this feature now on Friendfeed is the right way to do it.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Excellent - I depend on email notifications for DMs from Twitter. Great to see it here.
- Hutch Carpenter
Great! Thanks Brent!
- AJ Batac
Why Facebook can't get this right is beyond me. Thank you for resisting the urges of noreply and donotreply email addresses :)
- Jay Cuthrell
Thanks for all the love! If you notice any bugs (especially related to replying by email -- missing, incomplete, or incorrectly formatted comments) please let us know by forwarding a few affected messages (including full headers, if possible) to feedback@friendfeed.com. Thanks!
- Tudor Bosman
Really good feature for email api, now it's true usable. Thank you.
- Рыло из нержавеющей стали
from fftogo
OK... so the structure of the email address is 'ignore.<username>@friendfeed.com'. Does this mean in the future I will be able to DM someone by emailing something like 'message.<username>@friendfeed.com'?
- Johnny Worthington
Johnny: I wouldn't know :)
- Tudor Bosman
Neat.. way to go, Tudor!
- Balaji Raghavan
Thank you! Any plans to add it to the FF Notification tool?
- Josh Haley
Bret, thanks! And Mark, as a workaround re: wanting to get DMs via SMS, it's pretty easy to set a forwarding filter on one's e-mail to [number]@tmomail.net or whatever your carrier's SMS gateway is. Okay, that's minorly geeky, but IMHO not much of a hurdle at all :)
- Adam Lasnik
You can configure multiple email addresses on your account page (http://friendfeed.com/account/); for now, we'll send mail to the one you designate as "primary". You can set [number]@tmomail.net as the primary address and we'll happily send mail to it, which should be delivered as SMS; however, the email messages that we sent won't be properly formatted or clipped to 140 characters, so they may look ugly or get split over multiple SMS messages (and so you may get charged more if you pay per use).
- Tudor Bosman
Now I just have to solve the problem that nobody cares about me enough to send me direct messages.
- Bryce Roney
Bryce++ LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
This feature really rocks. I'm glad it's built into the system here instead of having to be provided by a 3rd party as is is on twitter.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
wow, finally!
- orie
Replied from my inbox .. it appeared on the DM by the time I switched back to FF ! Amazing :)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Well done FF!! DM to a room can be really useful! Bryce LoL, Scoble Rotfl..
- CantorJF
All sounds good, Bret. Next up IM alerts please. ;-) I'm trying to cut down on email. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Please develop a decent mobile/iphone interface
- Frank
amazing!
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Great news. I admire your profession on e-mails.
- Alp
+1 that the lock and >> icons need a bunch of work (rethought?). The emailing is a very nice thing to have, though. But could we also possibly turn it off please? :)
- Karl Knechtel
Thanks, this is another great feature!
- Nicholas James
Wow. VERY cool!
- Iain Baker
New to Friendfeed but this looks like a great feature! Thanks
- Medical Alarm Concepts
this is very cool
- Peter Efland
Tudor ftw!
- Rick Cogley
TWiT 187: So Say We All - http://twit.tv/187
Andrew, TranceMist, Sarah Perez and 16 other people liked this
This was one of the best TWiTs ever. They're all gems, but this one in particular shined. I am in stitches every time Jason Calacanis is on the show. The Star Wars jokes, the commercials, the orders for the chat room to rate TWiT and Dan Patterson...he really needs to be a regular!
- Eric Geller
I think Brian Gramo from thestream.tv would be awesome to have on the show.
- Tony, Paradox of FF
I love TWiT, but really, needs more Wil Wheaton.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Great show!!
- Jay Neff
Great episode. Mostly. I'm with Dvorak on the twitter business. If you spend 45 minutes of the next TWiT talking about twitter, again, I'm going to cry.
- Nathan King
The facebook issue I do not think is the twitter type look. It is all the junk on the side. It is very busy.
- Rick
I have to admit that I just skip the twitter discussion. The rest of the content is great though.
- Paul Grav
Used to follow Calcanis's feed, but all he talked about was his friggin' Tesla, so I stopped. Then, I listened to his annoying rants and bad impersonations on TWIT, and at that point I was pretty much done. Sorry, Jason.
- Fleagle
Listen to each ep religiously and this one was very good. Wish twitter wasn't focused on so much.
- Kamath (नमः)
Wearable LED signs
Mitchell Tsai, VC Freak, MedicalQuack and 39 other people liked this
Aubrey Beck shows off nyx Illuminated Clothing. Very cool signs and great for getting attention. $900 and up http://www.nyxit.com
- Robert Scoble
from email
this could get irritating though
- Varun Shenoy
Ooh. Want!
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Please - I want to display more than 140 chars on one of THESE thingies! :-)
- David Feng
What's her sign? ;)
- mjc
Make a hack to change the message, he'd never notice. "I'm a douche!"
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Just wait... Wearable OLED is just lurking around the corner. Then things will get interesting.
- Lee Stacey
yes, she's cute. but cute girls do not equal good tech. come on, give us real news. thanks. this is marketing 1.0, and is full of fail. advertising is broken, seriously.
- Josh Russell
Rudy Rucker has a short story where a girl wears a jacket that broadcasts images constently. I agree with Lee, OLED will make that happen.
- Dave Holle II
No. Never.
- Admiral Anika
This would be very cool for when I ride my bike around town, but not for $900. $50 maybe. $25 totally!
- MarkCarras
I could sell ad space and MONETIZE!!!!!!
- Martha
LOL mjc. I was wondering the same thing :-P
- Shawn Farner
Yeah - digital clothing FTW! woo hoo!
- Susan Beebe
Cut, copy, paste on Palm Pre
Tyson Key, David HC Soul, Brandon and 83 other people liked this
Just one of the reasons I want one.
- Robert Scoble
from email
Amen to that.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Awesome...amazing we all think it's so great yet it should be a fundamental feature in every smartphone.
- Jonathan Brown
does it feel good in the hand?
- Jay
<whisper> My G1 has been doing this since I first turned it on </whisper>
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Maybe this will finally get Apple to raise the priority on this feature ...
- Patrick Jordan
I strongly suspect next iPhone release will have it. But my phone has it now, so I got that going for me, which is nice.
- Wade Dorrell
After watching someone from work try 3 times to enter our 64-char-long wifi passwd on an iPhone, lack of copy/paste seems like a security hole, since it encourages you to use short passwds.
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
@Richard haha.. you are so damn right about that statement :P
- Qbat
Well, just like in my iPhone... oh wait.
- Sebastian
I really love my iPhone. While I'm not above switching to something superior, I would be satisfied if they just up the ante for Apple as suggested by @Patrick and compel them to deliver some much-needed functionality. I would like it to be a bit more open too.
- Devon Campbell
Apple needs to get copy/paste on the iPhone
- Kevin Whalen
As badly as copy&paste, iPhone needs better, slicker ways to switch between apps and organize and work with home screens - hopefully Palm may sort of embarass Apple into some greater efforts ...
- Patrick Jordan
It's going to be interesting to see if apple has a better solution up their sleeves. Or perhaps it will just melt away with inter-app integration such as URLs and data detectors.
- Robin Barooah
hahahahha
- Mona Nomura
DO EET ALREADY, APPLE
- Live4Emma (L4S)
Woot! Palm! :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Way to go Palm! Competition raise all boats.
- Clarence Chiang
I won't believe it until I see that its better then my old palm pilot.
- Colide81 (James)
Isn't that lovely..? :)
- Daynah
Apple: I don't care if you have to PR spin this and make it look like you just added the most innovative feature ever on the iPhone, JUST ADD IT.
- Brad Butner
Great product IF ONLY it is priced right and works with my Mac.
- Rom Feria
heard anything on pricing?
- Yolanda
Quick question on the iPhone... So they update it tomorrow with Cut & Paste... What do we complain about then?
- Johnny Worthington
Inability to multi-task, push, and its stupid stupid cables!
- Mona Nomura
@Johnny - lack of video recording, nothing in the way of organizing our ever-growing numbers of apps and our home screens, lack of some sort of launcher app ...
- Patrick Jordan
oooh cut & paste! what about a legit Qik app or the MMS function?
- Courtney Engle
Cool... I would like to be able to drag and rearrange my home screen icons via my computer
- Johnny Worthington
There is no need for MMS - I can email. Qik, I am waiting for. And truth be told, lack of copy and paste doesn't bug me. I just want PUSH.
- Mona Nomura
the need for MMS is more about friends sending me messages and having to log in to at&t website to see them. more on the receiving than the submitting end
- Courtney Engle
@Johnny - yeah, something like that, or that plus better way to do things on the iPhone in this area too - wiggly icons were cute when we first saw them, but with 5,6,7 etc. screens of apps, they suck - you get one fave onto a page you want and the knock-on effect is clumsy / knocks others off were you want them ...
- Patrick Jordan
Do you really think people will ditch the Iphone and change carriers for this thing?
- David
That keyboard sure seems tiny. But not really compared to the portrait mode iPhone keyboard.
- Ari Braginsky
Palm is turning japanese, finally.
- Greg
Excellent. Copy and paste just like Windows Mobile has been doing for longer than the iPhone existence, and I think that includes secret existence. I wonder if copy/paste was even possible in 2000 on the first widely available Palm-based phone, the Kyocera QCP6035.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
What does that mean, Greg?
- Mona Nomura
So people want copy/paste more than native apps?
- Bwana ☠
No way, Bwana; I want EVERYTHING more than a few things!
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Dare to effing dream....Has Apple ever given a reason that makes sense about why cut/paste is not available on the iPhone? Is this like the second mouse button, where it take 10 years to convince them it's a mission-critical feature?
- Matthew DeVries
I don't need MMS, but I do need the ability to receive MMS. What happens when my business contacts MMS me something on an iPhone? My plan is up in february and I need to decide soon between G1 and iPhone.
- Matthew DeVries
Personally, I've never used copy/paste on a mobile device.
- Bwana ☠
I don't need copy and paste because the iPhone enables me to do everything I needed copy and paste for. (used it a lot on the Curve). MMS? Who needs that when most people have email... :(
- Mona Nomura
where's the app market / store
- Bob Sonin
Mona: Email is find for sending, but it's a given that everyone expects you to be able to receive MMS. As long as either 1.) the MMS sender is told that I can't get that type of message, or 2.) the MMS gets emailed to me when they use my PHONE number, fine I'll live without it. If you have a job where MMS's are flying around all day, you can't go to your bosses and coworkers and tell them that they can MMS everyone else in the company, but me, they gotta log on and email.
- Matthew DeVries
Bwana: I never used a cup holder in a car either before my parents got a 1986 Colt Vista o.O
- Matthew DeVries
So is a cup holder "mission critical"?
- Bwana ☠
I wouldn't buy a car without one. Unless I it was a Mint 66 Mustang, but no one's allowed to drink in that.
- Matthew DeVries
I'm buying stock...Don't tell Alex though, or he'll whine about it.
- Geoff Schultz
Ok Matthew....you win.... cup holders don't mean a thing to me.
- Bwana ☠
Wow, MMS is used for business? I had no idea, since I've always been in email environments. Now I see where you are coming from. Thank you for taking the time to explain. :)
- Mona Nomura
Bwana: I don't think you can win the internet ;) , and I wasn't taking the piss out of you. It's just a feature I find important, There's a bunch of things I'm like that on. Got a touch of OCD. Oh, and your Patrick Norton impressions rock.
- Matthew DeVries
Mona: Sorry if I came of overly aggressive there. I'm still stuck in kind of a Web 1.0 vein where everything erupts into a flame war and it's a sprint to get your point across before the thread turns to spam, porn, hitler, or gets deleted.
- Matthew DeVries
If the multi-tasking works, I think this thing will be a giant step in the right direction. It's a pain point on smart phones. Just about all of them stink with multi-tasking. Matthew, I don't even try to impersonate him, it's just my normal voice :)
- Bwana ☠
hahahhahah no worries! FriendFeed is one of the few places different ideas are exchanged amicably, and this is definitely not the place where threads turn to spam, porn, hitler, or into the Dark Space. Though a picture of spam+porn+Hitler+bacon combination is known to show up... in LOL cat form. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Do you really think this could finally deserve the name, I PHONE Killer?
- RALPH
Competition - perhaps. Killer? No. (at this time)
- Mona Nomura
I guess it's more accurate to say you impersonate his cadence from time to time.
- Matthew DeVries
Does the iPhone need killing? I prefer iPhone challenger. If the iPhone is dead, then there's no need for the killer to innovate, and I'm never going to get my damn flying car.
- Matthew DeVries
With that type of logic, one cannot disagree. One can say further Matthew that inspiration for the PRE came from Apple in the first place.
- RALPH
I agree Mon N... let me change the terminology.. Lets talk about it finally that we have competition.
- RALPH
Haven't we established that labeling anything an X-killer is destined to actually kill the thing that is labeled? Think of the halls of recent tech history strewn with the corpses of so-called "iPod-killers"
- Victor Ganata
I *love* copy-paste in my Sony Ericsson W830i
- Toni @ NavinoT
I've got copy/paste on my nokia 6130. woohoo!
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
I for one applaud Apple for showing strong character and not adding this obvious, relatively easy-to-implement, immensely useful feature despite popular demand by loyal fans.
- Yaniv Golan
@Yaniv it's for your own good. You really didn't need it, otherwise it would have been there from the begining.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
on SE P1i too and a list of most used term
- Raphaelo Casanova
from twhirl
You've been able to do this on Nokia's for years. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
can you drag highlight? That's something I really wish the iphone had.
- alphaxion
Scoble, every smart phone has had copy and paste EXCEPT for iPhone.
- David Andrzejewski
#ces09 Microsoft releases new tag system for cell phones
LonelyBob, David Ward, Diana and 76 other people liked this
http://www.Microsoft.com/tag This is the coolest thing I have seen so far. You can add these color tags to things and any phone can read them. They released an iPhone app today! Free!
- Robert Scoble
from email
Cool, if people will use it. Kind of like web slices, it has to be implemented. We'll see.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
is that like those QR codes?
- David
I like this idea. It's the same principle as scanning a supermarket barcode. We need more of this; Japan has it, after all! Thx for the post.
- Allen S.
Interesting but do we really need another one? I have three of these apps on my phone already. Barcorama seems to be the most versatile but I doubt it will have MS's new stuff. These "Smart pox" systems have been around for years in Asia, do we really need to reinvent the system?
- Kalidor
after looking at the site, it is like the QR codes, except colorful and by proxy hip
- David
yeah, QR Code is already well established in Japan.
- Toni @ NavinoT
Oh, neat! Just wish there was support for crappy old WinMobile devices like mine. (Mine runs 2003SE, and I can't afford to upgrade to something modern at this time.)
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
This was actually one of my startup ideas from a while back. Seemed inevitable. Print Biz card with QR (or QRcode like) and use the cameraphone to scan. Additionally you would never be without a business card if you had your phone since you could use the screen to display the code, the other phone takes a pic of your screen presto.
- mikepk
also, you use the geo data in the phone to assign a location to when / where you "met" the person
- mikepk
meta data gets attached by the very act of scanning
- mikepk
chris, that was one of the things I thought was cool about this startup idea, you don't need a fancy phone (although it helps). Just snap a photo with cameraphone and email it to an online service to process. (or upload after the fact) makes it much more accesible.
- mikepk
very cool spin to something that is already in wide use in Japan. Kudos to Microsoft for seeing the applications of this. I'm going to have to try this on my phone.
- Bryan
the zune tattoo guy is going to need some more ink :-D
- Karim
++ Karim LOL
- Mona Nomura
Would this not be just like 2d bar codes that nokia has been doing for some time? http://mobilecodes.nokia.com/ Cool but not new for the masses just new for Microsoft possibly.
- Sloan Bowman
I thought this failed years ago...
- Bwana ☠
Hey, I was the second follower of their abandoned-looking @microsofttag account. This program looks cool but appears to be a typical MSFT rush job on all ends. Program launched a blank website, and when I tried to report the bug the form said "Special characters (< and >) are not allowed in full name." (Of course there are none in my name)
- Carl Black
Another iPhone app from Microsoft. I grabbed it, but oh yeah - I don't have any of these brand new proprietary tag images around to try it out...
- Josh Bancroft
Worked the very first time on a BB 8330 with what I thought would be an inferior photo. Very interesting. I think I'll try making a tag.
- Dave Holle II
David: yes, these are like QR codes but that work much more accurately and can be far smaller than QR codes.
- Robert Scoble
Here's a video demoing it: http://www.kyte.tv/ch...
- Robert Scoble
I'd like quantification of accurate and smaller. QR codes can work with over 50% of it damaged, and I have once working that are 3/4'" on each side? I wouldn't mind seeing smaller if it becomes a standard. I notice MS's website doesn't have this info? What do they say?
- Kalidor
What is the name of the iphone app?
- Amani
Kalidor: the microsoft tags are smaller in size and can be read without special lenses on your cell phone. They seem to work a lot more accurately here.
- Robert Scoble
Not sure what you mean by special lenses, the Moto V220 I got from Rogers for free (so you can imagine the quality) had no problem with those squares on salty posters in TO streets? Do some phones need wide angle lenses or something then?
- Kalidor
Amani ... it's TagReader (you can also find via search on 'Microsoft')
- David HC Soul
Absolutely cool, this thing rocks. Tried it on multiple tags and it is able to recognize most of the tags easily. With even 2 MP camera phone it works great. Now the question, how do I make my own tags??
- Deepak Sharma
Isn't this what ShotCode has been doing for at least the last two years? http://www.shotcode.com/home
- Christopher Harley
Oh, please. QR code are exactly the same, they work perfectly well. No news here. And more: it seems that after a period of free beta, creating tag will cost you money. Oh, dear, QR codes are free, instead. Nice try.
- Federico [Kurai]
Federico: they are not the same. Look into it. And not everything Microsoft does is evil.
- Robert Scoble
I'm not saying that this is evil. Just I don't get how this is different from QR codes (except for the fancy colours). But, don't get me wrong, Robert, I'm happy for this idea. QR rocks in Japan, but never really made their way in the rest of the world. Maybe Microsoft will be able to get this technology to spread. I think it's great for games.
- Federico [Kurai]
The Adobe TV demo of Flash doing this in a browser with a regular web cam is very cool. http://tv.adobe.com/#vi+f15... Long video but worth it. Jump to 41:00 min and 49:00min
- Andrew Smith
Created my first tag, posted to blog, took unbelievably blurry photo with my iPhone from the blog page on notebook (hand shaking, balanced on lap & low light) it took me successfully in the Safari browser right to the page. Wonderful. I'm looking at incorporating this for a Sports Hall of Fame to link exhibits to a virtual archive with supplemental information.... this will integrate a Second Place of Learning" with a virtual "Third Place of Learning" so that the two can be combined into one experience!
- David HC Soul
This is at least 7 or 8 years old technology. I have early versions of such cards laying in the bottom of boxes in my office somewhere. 2009 off to a rockin' start.
- michael silverton
michael: old cue cat scans weren't designed to be used by blurry cell phone cameras.
- Robert Scoble
I was thinking of printing bar code info on business cards that could be scanned by the G1 code reader. If this works, way cool!
- Greg Birch
I'm impressed, I work in the sign industry and this could have some interesting applications if enough people start to use it. The dialer tag worked quickly even when blurry and slightly crooked.
- Patrick Looney
mkay. but i'm sure you'd agree there's a fairly bright distinction between 'breakthrough' and 'refinement' right? why are we still awake? tomorrow will be a huge day! goodnight! ;-)
- michael silverton
Robert: QRcode worked as a charm with my E61 camera, which is not the best around (2 megapixel, more blurry than the iPhone one).
- Federico [Kurai]
I personally am a MS fan but have to say that in my opinion adding some colors doesn't really mean anything related to innovation. I think the size and ability to be read are depending on the resolution of the consumer device more than the underlying technologies and do you really think that changing the items from squares to triangles and adding some color could increase quality? Is there any academic paper about this issue?
- Kivanc Toker
And why to market a total new product from scratch rather than working together with Nokia? Theye are already embedding 2d barcode readers to their new products supporting the 2 widespread 2d barcode technologies which are QR and Datamatrix.
- Kivanc Toker
QR codes can be scanned, recognized, and stored while working offline. Microsoft tags require Internet connectivity, and they have to go through Microsoft server to be useful. It makes them only marginally better than cool, easy to type domain name.
- andrei_c
QR Codes are also in many products in Asia. Here in Hong Kong almost all products from Nokia, Sony Ericsson and Japanese cosmetic brands have QR Codes on them. BTW: @Leather the Google project is called ZXing http://tr.im/36xc
- Vinko
Can't get it to install on my non-fancy phone ;-) Guess I'll have to stick with QR codes for now!
- Nick Jones
it requires an internet connection meaning the data in the tag isn't really stored in the tag itself whereas QR codes hold all the data in their respective code. it's color also so forget about kids using this to advertise their band's party on campus using their cheap black and white printers.
- Stefan Constantinescu
@andrei_c, @Stefan The tags *could* hold all the data in the code; but less data is necessary if everything's routed through what's essentially a "tinyurl" service. I think that's what's going on here. I'm sure using tinyurl or another shortening service w/ QR yields a more legible QR code. A tag of any kind, QR or otherwise, is no good if it can't be read.
- Wade Dorrell
But QR codes *can* be read.
- Federico [Kurai]
@Federico These can be read too. But at what angles? In what lighting? On which camera, at which quality setting? What URL, a long one or a short one? All I'm saying is using a shorter URL probably increases the odds that the code can be read, and I should say, read quickly & easily, both for QR & this tech.
- Wade Dorrell
CueCat, anyone? Still, it seems like an interesting take on QR Codes, and the 2D barcode "data pointer" concept in general.
- Tyson Key
Very cool!
- Matthew Bishop
Never had a single problem with the E61i camera (which is a pretty standard 2mpixel) in every lighting condition. The scan is fast and reliable. I really don't see the need to use a third party server just for a small increase in the reliability. Japanese are using QR for a long time now, it is an open and affordable technology. Microsoft is proprietary and less economic, with few appreciable advantages.
- Federico [Kurai]
I like it, set up a few myself. Will put on my blog that i never seem to update. Showed a friend and he set his twitter picture to it which sends the user to his blog. Be interesting to see it around.
- Simon Wicks
WARNING: PISSING & MOANING - Why must Microsoft pull this crap. There areW codes like QR which are used all over the world. Just because it hasn't caught on in America, Microsoft has to go and create their own tag that they can license for profit. This is why America is behind in tech coolness. Standards exist. Look at Japan, Finland, etc.. I'm envious of what they have and I'm pissed because it's the Microsofts of America that are preventing us from having this kind of tech.
- Pete Barry
Pete, how does Microsoft Neapolitan ice cream "prevent" us from having somebody else's vanilla? :-) if Google was on top of things, they would have rolled out QR and *integrated it with AdWords.* Print ads that drive to website = $$$$.
- Karim
[light bulb goes on over head] now if you'll excuse me, I have to go file a patent. lol
- Karim
wow -- very cool. I wonder what's going on with Google's QR
- Mike
I just wrote up my thoughts here - http://www.centernetworks.com/microso... - this is very disappointing -r eminds me of facebook connect - i really like where qr codes are going and now we get this new microsoft tag?
- Allen Stern
@waded I agree and understand, however, as long as there are places like airplanes, trains, rural areas, foreign countries with expensive roaming, etc, routing through server is a deal breaker. We aren't going to have truly ubiquitous Internet access for at least a decade. And I don't even want to start on how this limits range of devices that can support tags. Basically, it rules out everything except smartphones and laptops with attached cameras.
- andrei_c
I just tried it. It launches the IE browser on my phone (HTC Fuze) instead of the much better Opera browser. Make sure to uncheck the "Always launch IE" in settings to get it working with your default mobile browser. They should have made this the default, at least until they improve the mobile browser.
- Jim Cahill
@yesthatkarim You are absolutely right. There are choices. My fear is that the general public will go with the one that is publicized and that will be MSFT Tag. There are a handful of QR code readers for the iPhone which I've tried out and they work great. I just tried to create a MSFT Tag to try their iPhone app and they required a login. That's a big FAIL. It's just sad to see some tech companies embracing openness while others keep their doors locked.
- Pete Barry
http://www.microsoft.com/tag... for some discussion of QR vs. this tech.
- Wade Dorrell
Benefits for end-users here: http://www.microsoft.com/tag... and publishers here: http://www.microsoft.com/tag...
- Wade Dorrell
@andrei_c supposedly the application can store the scanned tag for later use in a disconnected situation; I read that somewhere on microsoft.com.
- Wade Dorrell
There are some benefits to what Microsoft is doing; less space used for the same amount of data compared to QR/DataMatrix codes., tracking, lots of $ to push the effort. But the BIG problem I see is that Microsoft will be able to track all of these codes. QR and DataMatrix codes embed the ACTUAL data in the image. The Tag just embeds a code that the MS site uses to redirect the browser. Come on MS, just get behind a proven, public domain standard like DataMatrix.
- Mark Simonds
New OQO mobile Internet device. #ces09 Me wants!
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Really awesome OLED screen. $1499. Now has touch screen. Twice as fast as older ones. Runs Vista or XP. Lust! http://www.OQO.com
- Robert Scoble
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Cool!
- Bluesun 2600
jeebus! its awesome but expensive
- David
That's not fair!! OLED!!!
- Bwana ☠
looks amazing and would love to have that
- Joshua Smith
Looks nice - might be something to conisdert... hook up to external monitor when at the desk
- Matt Faulkner
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Is that a fully functional PC in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
$1500 for 2gig of RAM and 3G? Who buys this stuff?!
- Mona Nomura
It's essentially a netbook in a smaller body. Not quite sure it's worth $1,500.
- Shawn Farner
Like the screen, but yes that price is galactic. That said you could put an OLED toaster in front of me and I'd love the screen.
- Mo Kargas
Not worth it?!?!! Dude!! OLED!!!
- Bwana ☠
$1499? Is it made out of gold?
- John Munro
I'm waiting for the Sony Vaio. At least it folds and the screen would be protected.
- Mona Nomura
When it get's cheaper, that'll be awesome. I'll have to enjoy my netbook for now.
- Kamilah Gill
i'll wait a year when its $700 - early adopters will pay the R&D costs for me
- Damian Holmes
Damn. My oqo is ready for an upgrade. I wonder if they give discounts for current oqo owners. @Matt - I hook my model 02 up to my 56" Samsung DLP via HDMI connection. It's amazing.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Do you guys know what OLED is? This isn't going to drop anytime soon
- Bwana ☠
yeah I know what it is
- Joshua Smith
isn't that the flexible led monitor screen stuff?
- tony
yeah i know - what I also remember is LCD 7-8 years ago for a 15"
- Damian Holmes
Looks like they polished the design quite a bit. I don't think I'd consider it though without some kind of "instant on" feature like the HTC Shift.
- Chris
I apologize. I see OLED, and bodily fluids are involuntarily released. Carry on
- Bwana ☠
Mona, likewise - dreaming of a Vaio P
- Christopher Galtenberg
too expensive for something I will drop and break...
- Peter Hoffmann
Very cool indeed.
- WilliamMuncrief
Robert this is a PC and not a device ;) (jk, 4 all eavesdroppers)
- LPH™ and his dog P™
too fucking small. give me a 17" macbook pro instead. wink wink.
- mjc
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