"I agree. I referred to the fact that Feedburner stats are unreliable. You might as well remove it from your blog all together. It's just an unreliable number."
- Dave Stanley
"I don't get the logic behind doing something like this. It seems to me that this move pollutes the value (whatever is left of it) of Feedburner stats. Those stats are supposed to be tied specifically to people whom subscribe to someones RSS/Atom feed. I might follow someone on FriendFeed for a variety of reasons, one of which might not be that persons blog. FriendFeed evaluating the action of someone following someone else, and making assumptions against that action, introduces a huge grey cloud. This ultimately dillutes the value of the Feedburner stat. The Feedburner stat is tied to 1 thing. Someone subscribing to your blog. It's either true or false. There is a huge cloud of greyness baked into that number now. Not that Feedburner has done a great job of showing reliable data. But you can pretty much kiss goodbye any real understanding of how many people intended to subscribe to your blog. I'm wondering why FriendFeed felt the need to inject themselves into this position? Seems..."
- Dave Stanley
"Hi Robin, thanks. To create filters and pull the results into your RSS reader you don't need an account. You can get going right away here http://alpha.shyftr.com/filter.... If you are a publisher and want to offer the filter on your site, to your readers, you can request an invite for a publisher account here: http://alpha.shyftr.com/publish..."
- Dave Stanley
"Rob, definitely not a substitute. Once you create some filters you can pull the results into greader. It should be looked at as complimentary."
- Dave Stanley
I've often wanted something like Stumbleupon, but would only pull randomly from any of my unread entries in google reader. is it anything like that?
- Tony, Paradox of FF
I've tried Feedly. It's not quite what I mean. I may have worded it wrong.
- Tony, Paradox of FF
Crap - it's time for our advisory call
- Jesse Stay
(I've never used IE 7's feedreader, by the way, so I literally am guessing. And I've only just begun to li- I mean explore FriendFeed's filters.)
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
Pheuff, I thought he would NEVER LEAVE! :)
- jcunwired
Poof? Even Louis Gray Facts didn't cover his ability to disappear. And I have to be honest - this is the first time in my life that I've been sitting around, waiting for someone to write a post. Hope the kids don't start crying...
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
Must know now!!! I'm afraid of it taking everything I've been working on away.
- Jimminy
Louis Gray Facts? John, are you saying that Louis is FriendFeed's own personal Chuck Norris?
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Neat idea - tell everyone you're going to write a post, snare people's interest, then write the thing. Of course it only works if you have something interesting to say.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
Chris, I'm saying that Chuck Norris hopes to be Louis Gray some day.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
jcunwired: Digg Search did mention something similar to this earlier today. Maybe, but I wouldn't call it an RSS tool with the same qualities he mention above.
- Jimminy
Was worth a shot - "from a place you don't expect"
- jcunwired
That's pretty slick. I also use Tr.im and was just tweeting about the issue with the links not being available in a public list. I suppose you wouldn't want to give us a hint how you did that? Pretty please...
- Sheree Motiska
jcunwired: Sorry but you might have it I just went back and read the post which says RSS which contain X and Y but not Z. http://blog.digg.com/
- Jimminy
Well my head is spinning with ideas. And it hurts.
- Bwana ☠
I'm content; going to bed. Looks extremely useful.
- Jimminy
80% of my online time (outside of social networking sites) is spent in my RSS feeds, and probably 30% of that time is wasted scanning items I'm not interested in. Now I'm going to have a lot more free time to spend here on FF. Aren't you folks lucky! :)
- jcunwired
So they changed how comments work or something? As long as I've used GReader I could comment on articles. Guess this means there's now actual discussion-style ones, not the "fire and forget" style GReader's offered thus far.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
These are actually comments and conversations that take place within Reader, with friends you are connected to. It's not the "Notes" feature, and isn't referring to comment boxes on the original blog.
- Louis Gray
I don't want this. Reader should give access to the actual comments on the blog.
- Meryn Stol
At some point in the next six months or so we're all going to have to figure out how content--whether it's posts, comments, pictures, video...whatever--can be distributed on different system yet still tied together into conversations in whatever UI a user chooses.
- Ken Sheppardson
who owns the conversation? The publisher? The news reader? The commenter? Interesting debate.
- Bill Flitter
I should always "own" what I say, subject to whatever license I say it under (Copyright, Creative Commons, etc). Why would it matter that I say it in response to something somebody else said?
- Ken Sheppardson
No me likey. I much prefer using something like Feedly - that gives me the original content from the publisher, sometimes the comments off the blog (if WordPress), and comments from FriendFeed. Seems kind of too late for this.
- James Hull
"Unfortunately, we're down because we're migrating a bunch of data and re-writing our api. Once that's completed we'll be back up. This is what we're not doing. We're not showing full content on standalone pages anymore. In the reader, we show the feed as it is published (just as any other reader displays feed content). On standalone item pages we have a very abbreviated snippet of content (50 words). In the activity stream, we just provide the title of the story. And if you have a blog and want to pull the activity, comments included, back to your blog via an embeddable widget, you can do so."
- Dave Stanley
why does matthew get to rock and sarah has to sit there
- Allen Stern
Allen, one is automated, and the other requires toe-tapping to get going. :-) Right now, this second, Matthew is in the one Sarah was in during the video, and I am toe-tapping to keep him rocking. Sarah is laying flat, considering sleep. (Hopefully nobody notes that I got the date wrong on intro!)
- Louis Gray
ok good - equal rocking is important
- Allen Stern
The new camera will sell for an estimated price of $2,700. It will have a full frame 21.1-megapixel sensor, DIGIC 4 imaging processor and an expanded ISO sensitivity range from ISO 50 to ISO 25,600. It will shoot at 3.9 frames per second (a disappointment to some who were hoping for a faster camera). Canon says that the new camera will be available at the end of November. It will also shoot 16:9 full 1080 HD video. The maximum length for videos on the new camera will be 4 GB per clip or 30 minutes, whichever comes first. The new camera will also have an input terminal for external microphones in addition to it's built in sound.
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
Glad to see it's finally here. Sounds like a great camera - here's hoping it has or improves upon the superb image quality and low-light performance of the original.
- Tom Harrison
I'm a "Nikonian" but something like this is would make me very, very happy
- João Almeida
I really wish I were a good enough photographer (or wealthy enough) to justify this. It sounds absolutely fantastic.
- James (@willia4)
How long before you snag one, Thomas?
- Jordan Hofker
Been a long time coming. I want one.
- Dave Stanley
I'm a little disappointed in the fps but, overall, I'm counting the days 'til I pick one up
- Shawn Duffy
from twhirl
I'm excited. The 5D is my workhorse camera, this update adds so many cool features, right at the core of the camera. It addresses its (few) weaknesses, too. 25,600 ISO? nice! 3.9fps? Nice - I really didn't need 5fps for sports, even 3 was fast enough for me. Live View 1080p HD video?!?!? Awesome! Now I know what I want for Channukah. :-)
- David Sifry
from twhirl
Jordan, I'll buy one as soon as I can from B&H. Not sure if they are taking pre-orders or not yet but going to check on that later this morning.
- Thomas Hawk
Dave I agree with you on the 3.9 fps being enough. Personally I'm doing more fine art photography than sports stuff and I rarely shoot burst. It's only been a few times when I've been out there that I've wished for faster frame speed. 3.9 fps is plenty fast for me.
- Thomas Hawk
I'm glad this will be around when my original 5D stops working. I was getting worried they might abandon the model and come up with something else that would be a pro upgrade that I don't need.
- Tom Harrison
I am $2,700 dolllars away from purchasing this. I wonder how much I can get for my kids.
- iMorpheus
from twhirl
Most definitely on the "want" list, but having just spent some moola, it may be awhile before this ends up in my bag.
- Jeremy Hall
HD video. Wow. Guys will buy this just to record their kids.
- Russellreno
Curious to see in-depth review, but its definitely the DSLR I will purchase. Thomas, any idea whether date is preserved when batteries are changed? :-) No preorder at B&H, first thing I checked when I saw your post.
- jcunwired
Tina, I just got the same camera (the XSi). I'm loving it. And I'll definitely use it for a good long while. Buy good lenses for it and you'll be set when the time comes to upgrade.
- Jordan Hofker
Thomas, I'm looking forward to a "hands on" with this camera from you.
- Jordan Hofker
Jordan, that's my intent. Still working with the original Canon kit lens and debating on what to get next...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Wow, thanks for the link, Andre. Those videos are pretty impressive.
- J. McConnell
I hope Santa Claus will give me one of these this year :)
- imabonehead
Yes, 24/7/, 365. Damn, I'm only a few blocks away. I'd meet you there but I'm heading out of the city for a few hours. The MOMA is pretty close by if you're looking to be indoors afterwards.
- Dave Stanley
We're at the Apple store now. Lots of fun and free Internet for FriendFeeding. :-)
- Robert Scoble
now see im confused - why did orli and steve "like" this? you are having breakfast - big deal :) (nothing against you, just trying to understand why anyone would "like" this - it dilutes the "like"
- Allen Stern
I like things that I want to save for myself. Maybe they wanted to come to meet me? Or, maybe they wanted to tell their friends that there's a meetup happening. I like stuff like this too for both of these reasons.
- Robert Scoble
Oh, and if people didn't like things like these no one would be on Twitter. At least 57% of the messages on Twitter are insipid little things about people's lives like this one.
- Robert Scoble
*Pops in here without context* You folks "Like" things here so that you can't see past your last 300 likes? Scoble, isn't the "Like things to come back to it" line of thought useless with the 300 Likes limit?
- Yuvi
We are in Times Square now. Come join us.
- Robert Scoble
Yuvi, it's probably a little different for Scoble, but for us mere mortals following less than 1,000 people, liking something to save for later isn't a long term solution: that's what bookmarks are for. But let's say I'm tied-up right now, and I see an interesting discussion developing on Friendfeed. I can "like" it for easy access to it in a few minutes/hours/forthours, which doesn't intrude on the 11-page limit.
- Mark Trapp
@Mark: Point taken. I'm also trying to make as much noise(?) as possible so that this issue gets fixed.
- Yuvi
I used to work (and live) in NYC, and was on my way shortly into the city on 9-11. Big Apple has some nice features and attractions but I prefer Maine.
- Alex Hammer
sushi rec for you: ushi wakamaru (136 west houston street)
- colin nagy
Due to the girl's smaller size, under 2 KG, she'll be in the NICU, but the boy is already with mom, getting acquainted. Kristine is in recovery from the C-section, but I expect will do well. On with a new stage!
- Louis Gray
Yeaaaaahhhhhh!!!! Funny, Milan spent the first three days of his life in that same NICU. They are really great there, so your daughter is in good hands. Names?
- Robert Scoble
Lisa: you should open a day care for FriendFeed'ers. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
YAHOO! (the word not the company). Big congrats to Louis & wife. Now the fun REALLY begins. Thanks so much for sharing the experience on Friendfeed.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
That's awesome. Congrats to you and your wife!
- John McCrea
Congratulations! We look forward to chatting with them online as soon as you can prop them in front of the computer. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
Hmmm.... day care for friendfeeders = new biz model. I gotta got get some VC @now :)
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Congrats Louis! And hat's off to Kristine for the long labor followed by the c-section! Glad to hear things are good with the li'l ones. They'll be home before you know it. Fantastic!
- Hutch Carpenter
I promise photos soon. Names too. I'm tired and so is Kristine. Thanks for being part of a very real community here on FriendFeed and indulging me.
- Louis Gray
Lisa: our house is child proofed just for you. Or is it for the kids? I don't know, but either way, we're ready for the influx of FriendFeeding babies! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Louis: if you think you're tired now, just wait a couple of weeks!!! Enjoy your sleep when you can get it. We'll be here when the kids wake you up again. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
Congratulations Louis and family! All this twittering / FF'ing on the excitement of babies being born is reminding me of my own sons' births inspiring my proto-social-web baby pool project (admittedly it's Web 1.5 - not all shiny/ajaxy but hey, it debuted in 2004 which is like a lifetime ago in web-years). Anyway, thus ends my shameless plug: http://bebepool.com/
- Micah Wittman
Congrats, Louis. I was (and am) a twin, 2lbs, 6oz though. 4mos premature.
- Andrew Feinberg
Louis - you are one of the anchors here on Friendfeed! It's been an honor sharing this experience with you, and your family. Wishing you, Kristine, and the twins the sweetest of dreams. Sleep well. You deserve it!
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Wholehearted congrats. Our first was in the NICU after being born premature and those folks do wonders. Dylan is now a tall, healthy, 48-inch-tall five year old towering above the rest...
- Chris Reed
Luis fantastic duded. Congratulations to you and your wife!!
- Alexander van Elsas
Congratulations Louis & Kristine, & welcome to your son & daughter! You're tired now? Wait 19 years...I have twin daughters that age; I can barely type ;-) ! Twins are special, all enjoy your new life together.
- David Peacock
from twhirl
Congratulations to you and Kristine on your new arrivals, really proud for you both!
- Joe Dawson
Well done - the hard work starts now! Our youngest was in NICU for three weeks (he was 4 10 and had to be delivered seven weeks early as my wife had a life threatening condition), but the great thing about NICU baby's (well in the UK anyway) is that they get trained to sleep!!!
- Andy Davies
Mazal Tov to the new parents! Congrats!!!
- Mike Fruchter
Congrats Louis and glad to hear mother and twins are fine and enjoy your rest you'll need it! Only 12 weeks before our new one arrives and I'll be going through the same thing :)
- Russell G
Congratulations Louis. Brilliant news!
- Chris Nixon
Congrats! Hope everything goes really well!
- Matt Cutts
there are so many comments here i can't possibly read them all, but that's awesome louis, congrats to you and your wife. do the babies have names yet?
- MG Siegler
Congratulations! All our best wishes to mum, babies and your good self!
- John Samuelson
I think I teared up there a little bit. Congratulations Louis! I know how exhausted you guys are and hope you're getting some much deserved rest right now. You're all in my thoughts this weekend.
- Carla Thompson
~~~B~A~B~I~E~S~~~A~R~E~~H~E~R~E~~!!~~Y~E~A~H!!!!! Congratulations Louis & Kristine!!! So happy for you guys and your family!! (Sorry I feel asleep after 1AM EST... long week)
- Susan Beebe
Congratulations Grey family. "Hello, babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. At the outside, babies, you've got about a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies—God damn it, you've got to be kind."
- Clare Dibble
Awesome Vonnegut quote, Clare! Very fitting.
- April Buchheit
Congratulations! you didn't name them Luke and Leia, did you?
- Tudor Bosman
Awesome! Can't wait to meet your two new kids and hope everything goes as well as possible.
- Robert Scoble
When Maryam had Milan we were actually able to use our iPhones in between contractions. (Milan was born at Stanford, just like Louis' kids are -- great wifi there). Maryam didn't want any video, so we did photos and audio. Just be prepared to put down the iPhone IMMEDIATELY when your wife needs you. Otherwise the consequences are harsh. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Mazel Tov and may all go as seamlessly as possible.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Wi-Fi at Lucille Packard is great, BTW. :-)
- Louis Gray
Congrats! Don't worry about us and take some time offline!
- Xavier Bartholome
Louis: I told you it rocks. So, is your wife admitted already? Or did they tell her to take a walk and come back in three hours like they told Maryam? (We went to Jack in the Box, and later, even back home cause, while Maryam was having contractions, she wasn't dialated enough to give birth for nearly 12 hours after we first went to Lucille Packard (Stanford's hospital for children).
- Robert Scoble
Oh, and if you know Thomas Hawk, do anything you can to get him to come by and make photos. He took the most spectacular photos of Milan (and my family) that I really treasure to this day.
- Robert Scoble
Matthew- Seamless birth , hmm. Kind of counter-intuitive. Louis-all the best to you,wife and twins.
- Mark Forman
I'm going to sleep hoping we hear great news when I wake up. Just remember, photos, we want photos!!!
- Robert Scoble
We are admitted. Contractions are 4-5 minutes apart. We'll be here for a while.
- Louis Gray
Cool. Any bets on the time? I'll bet that they are here by noon. Ahh, long night for Louis ahead! Breathe! Breathe! Breathe! :-)
- Robert Scoble
I don't dare bet on a time. That's bad luck. But I'm not going anywhere, and she's not either. Duncan Scoble Gray and Cyndy Corvida Gray might debut in the morning.
- Louis Gray
now you are ego pandering! Well I am off to bed. Our house is childproofed now and is awaiting the arrival. Milan is looking forward to having a couple of new friends to share toys with. Thinking good thoughts for you both.
- Robert Scoble
Be interesting to see how many posts a week you're going to be able to manage now... :-)
- Andy Davies
And no, those won't be their real names. :-)
- Louis Gray
Best of luck throughout the night Louis. Hopefully when I wake up the two new Grays will be ready to blog.
- MG Siegler
In case you guys wanted to know where you rate, we haven't told any family on either side that we're here. Didn't want to wake anybody up. Once we get close to 7 a.m. PDT, depending where we are then, maybe we'll let them know. Thanks for the notes. (Is this the first FriendFeed "live" birth?)
- Louis Gray
Wooo, awesome! Congrats in advance. :)
- Don MacAskill
Congrats and good luck! And they'll share a birthday with @crazybob's #2!
- Cyndy
Contractions are 2-3 minutes apart now. Both of them hanging out, and both of us, hanging in...
- Louis Gray
I do like the names you've chosen, though. Although you haven't managed to tack FriendFeed or Disqus in there. Maybe two middle names would work. I did that with #4 so she could be named after three family members.
- Cyndy
My daughter was born in a different age (1991). I couldn't provide updates to the world on an iPhone. Heck, all I could have done (I didn't) would have been to drive home, fire up the Mac Plus and my 2400bps modem, and posted text updates to the Deep Thoughts and Grotto BBSes.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
@Ontario My last was born in 2005, and I couldn't even update THEN... they ban all cell usage and WiFi is still a pipe dream. They are still going with the "cell phones mess with equipment" airline story.
- Cyndy
And regarding names...you could work "Obama" and "McCain" in there somehow...Duncan Scoble FriendFeed Obama Gray? :)
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
first photos better be with the cn stickers :)
- Allen Stern
WOOT!! Good luck to you and your wife at the hospital today Daddy Grey.
- Mike Fruchter
You'er not streaming the whole event? ;-) No I agree some things are sacred. Unless you're scoble. I bet mrs scoble is happy that qik wasn't released when she gave birth...
- Gez
Congrats Louis. Maybe we should start a "guess the weight" meme here on Friendfeed and see if we can get it on Techmeme in honor of Louis and family :-)
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Wishing the best for all four (!) members of the family!!!
- Dustin Harris
CONGRATS LOUIS! Glad I get to be in the names :D Can't wait for pictures though. I need to get "shegeeks" and "hegeeks" schwag over there asap!
- Corvida
I hope you got plenty of Coffee and brought your laptop battery plug. It's going to be a loooooooong day/night. Hey at least you got FF to kill the time :-)
- Mike Fruchter
Update: Things are obviously not the fastest I've ever seen, but progress is progress. We're at six cm. I didn't want to do a cm by cm update, but here we are! Nurses seem excited, so I'll pretend I am.
- Louis Gray
This is one occasion when comments really need timestamps...
- Andy Davies
I am jealous. The arrival of one was a joy. Two would have blown my mind!
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
Turning to superstition a bit, I got out of my A's shirt, which I've been wearing since we got here. Let's see if wearing the DISQUS shirt I got from Daniel Ha does the trick. :-)
- Louis Gray
All in good time. Heck, I would be excited as hell. :)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
For those watching this thread, obviously things have taken longer than we expected. Dilation has been slow, and the doctors are talking C-Section. We're trying to avoid. Babies are doing great.
- Louis Gray
C-Section imminent, as labor stalled (you might have noticed). Hopefully, back with good news soon.
- Louis Gray
Well, this is the sixth thread goin' on the twins, so (1) Louis we're hangin' with ya buddy and (2) get on with it already ... I want to go to sleep :) Seriously, positive, warm and happy thoughts ... and coffee.
- Charlie Anzman
at this rate, i think Scoble's gonna have to change his bet from noon Friday to noon on Saturday!
- Susan Beebe
Baby Grays are here! The boy clocked in at 9:01 at 5 pounds, and the girl weighed in at 4 pounds, 3 oz at 9:02. Both healthy.
- Louis Gray
YEAH!!! Congratulations!!! This is wonderful news - both healthy!! awesome....next, what are their NAMES??
- Susan Beebe
bump for the oldest thread i've ever found on ff, post-congrads, :)
- chaz2b
Steve, check out http://fluidapp.com it does more or less this. RE: Gears for Safari, the webkit team is actively working on making gears work.
- Mark Trapp
I've been playing with it for a few hours already and feels OK, and fluid definitely does more, multiple tabs for example
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Fluid looks great, makes me wish I had Leopard!
- Samuel Bostock
I'd love to get my hands on and play around with Safari 4. Is it 'significantly faster' as noted? Safari 3 is pretty fast as it is.
- Dave Stanley
Steve, given Safaris support for HTML5 and client side storage, it won't need Gears. iPhone Safari supports all this stuff too - cool cool things are in the pipeline
- Jamie
"Shey, we want to let comments travel back to blogs and other services like FriendFeed. Although, I can't say when this will happen. It's not an issue of whether or not we support the portability of comments. We support data portability, especially letting comments get pulled back to the blog. That being said, it's unfair to assume that the solution is about finding a platform to support. If we said today that we supported Disqus, that only means it's beneficial for a finite number of people that use Disqus. Everyone that uses Intense Debate, Wordpress Sezwho, and any other competing platform that pops up in the future would be left out in the cold. The answer to data portability of discussions should not be about supporting and integrating with 3rd party solutions. It should be about creating an open standard where everyone that has a vested interest can take advantage. A standard that everyone can use. A standard that doesn't require web services to tackle APIs from multiple..."
- Dave Stanley
"Just to clarify our intention, we're not going to dump the data entirely. We're going to archive it, and explore ways to let users have access to that data in the future. We haven't yet decided how far back to keep accessible data in the near term; whether it be 3 months, 6 months, etc. I'd actually be interested to hear how far back people realistically read their feeds. Our observations are that users aren't scrolling back too far, and maintaining this data for those few instances is hurting the experience for everyone else. So in the interest of understanding how Shyftr is being used right now, and maintaining an efficient system to accommodate that usage, we believe this move makes sense."
- Dave Stanley
"Louis, thanks for pointing out the human side to all of this. It's easy to lose site of the fact that there are hard working individuals behind all of these products and services, and it's important we take a second to pause and realize this once in a while."
- Dave Stanley