Dave Winer

"It's more or less the way Twitter and Facebook work, and they have a few hundred billion users each (slight exaggeration)." - Dave Winer

"Beautiful idea! Win-win." - Dave Winer

"I like their thinking at Metafilter. ;-)" - Dave Winer

"HN has always been abusive as far as I remember. What's new is that people now seem to be willing to say so. I see that as a positive thing." - Dave Winer

"Does the file's name end with .opml?" - Dave Winer

"You should be able to put the file in the Fargo folder and open it via the Open command in the File menu. When you say it doesn't work, how far do you get? What happens?" - Dave Winer

"I wouldn't want to try "more vendors participating" approach because I know how much respect big tech companies have for startups. Not much. We have to get our work done before those guys get too interested. Most of them are super assholes. Like a few people who work at your company. ;-)" - Dave Winer

"Ole, that's much more helpful than "It doesn't work in Safari." I honestly don't understand how anyone could leave that kind of message and think they're being helpful. Anyway I noticed that too. I didn't really worry about it because the dialog works fine in Safari when it's running inside Fargo. I will take another look and see if I can find a problem." - Dave Winer

"That's a really good idea. I've put it on our list." - Dave Winer

"We, of course, tested in Safari, so what about it doesn't work?" - Dave Winer

"The format seems very complicated. Could you post the conversion script? I'm thinking of writing something in the OPML Editor to get the ball rolling. It has a full scripting language that's good with OPML (as you might imagine)." - Dave Winer

"Nah I'm not really serious. I wanted to contrast how Twitter solves the problem with the way HN does not. Not sure where the answer is. But the first question in thinking about it is applying the same approach Twitter used." - Dave Winer

"Now I have to find out what TODO.txt format is! :-) I love this story. I hope you do use Fargo for everything, and spread the word. There are lots of outliner people who don't know about it yet." - Dave Winer

"I'm closing comments here. It's devolving into meta-threads, that is comments about people and other comments. We just don't do that here. I guess that's what HN is for. Enjoy! :-)" - Dave Winer

"I find that interesting. I know a few people who work at Google who used to post flames with their real names before they worked at Google. It makes sense that they would do it now, anonymously. Pretty sure I know who they are. Mozilla also does it. I've seen their back-channel where they plan their "attacks." I think the reason they do it is not because of some corporate policy, because it would be a really stupid thing to get caught doing. I think it's because the employees inside these big companies feel powerless. They see other people like myself having a great time being free and becoming rich, which is more or less an illusion, a grass-is-greener type thing. To us it looks like they have it great. Full benefits, a chance to work on big projects with huge impact, the respect of little guys, etc. Their reality is much more grim. No one cares what they think. They are told to do things that make no sense by bosses who are dumber than they are, less experienced, and in many cases,..." - Dave Winer

"If that's all it said it would not have been deleted. We have a rule here about personal comments. Not allowed. If you want rant about an individual, do it in your own space. I'm not even *slightly* interested." - Dave Winer

"I don't see how you could possibly know that unless you could read their minds. Anyway, I've had to delete a couple of your comments because they were way too personal (not about me, but about others). You're not free to do that here. Post those kinds of comments on your blog, not mine." - Dave Winer

"Re avoiding comments, I'm sure you realize it's ironic to be saying that in a comment on my blog, yes? ;-)" - Dave Winer

"Yeah, it's hard to imagine." - Dave Winer

"I don't like what he said about me. For one thing, it's impossible to respond to someone who thinks he can hear your tone of voice in a blog post. The tone he's hearing is his own creation. I'm not responsible for it. I try not to blog when I'm depressed or "grumpy" -- I was actuallly excited when I wrote that post, because I found something that illustrated a point I had been wanting to make." - Dave Winer

"Or have their comments moderated into the bit bucket. :-)" - Dave Winer

"That's why I think we should get rid of it, the same way Twitter does. If Hacker News can't control their trolls, then we should block Hacker News." - Dave Winer

"I hope that's all it is. I wonder if there's some way to get a better error message from them?" - Dave Winer

"Tom, we just released a new version 5 minutes ago, and you found a bug for us. Which I hopefully just fixed. Could you try again and let me know if it works now?" - Dave Winer

"It was in writing. Doesn't matter if you're not prepared to fight." - Dave Winer

"BTW, Hacker News is fucked up. Mostly trolls, and a handful of people trying to enforce civility on them. Waste of bandwidth." - Dave Winer

"I use Flickr for my photo archive." - Dave Winer

"They were in writing, in the merger agreement and in my employment agreement. But I was als a very large shareholder in the company. So I wasn't going to get adversarial with them. They could have lived up to the terms by pretending to let me "architect" the strategy. Wouldn't have made a difference. No one in that position who had any common sense would sue the company. It would be self-destructive." - Dave Winer

"It should work with self-hosted ones too." - Dave Winer

"Thanks for explaining. It's certainly true if they have a NY office that makes it easier to visit." - Dave Winer