Andy -- it does, for at least the moment when I wrote it. I had just read something insipid on TM that no one was pointing to. When ever I see that I think what poor taste Gabe has. And I'm reminded that Scoble says, and I agree, that TechMeme is just Gabe's blog, and absolutely nothing more than that. He's got a lot of people snowed into thinking it's got some magic, but I don't buy it.
- Dave Winer
Yes Loic, and that moment too. Thank you for reminding me that I am an imperfect human being. :-)
- Dave Winer
Duncan I'm not so sure about that, but thank you for the vote of confidence.
- Dave Winer
Dave we all are :-) happy new year to you. I will not that sentence you used for my next imperfection!
- Loic Le Meur
interesting line on it being Gabe's blog. Good line from Scoble, and very much accurate. Why people believe it's some sort of magic ranking system is beyond me, given the evidence to the contrary. Sad thing for Gabe: the advertisers will work this out soon as well
- Duncan Riley
@DaveWiner: i bet if you upped ante on "fuck off gabe" tweet -> a blog rant it makes @TechMeme (pulls up chair & some popcorn ;)
- dave mcclure
dave, most times i don't care -- i had just read something idiotic (like what you suggest) on tm and thought what a waste. then i got over it and went on.save the popcorn for arrington's latest shoe bomb.
- Dave Winer
@davewiner lots of people have issues with techmeme. Duncan Riley even has a new name for it CRUNCHMEME
- Sidharth Dassani
from fftogo
To be fair, Dave, you didn't break any important news or start a bitchmeme lately. I am sad that you've joined the mob in shooting the messenger on this one. It's not Gabe's fault that people aren't linking to you. People aren't linking to anyone much any more on their blogs, be that the Twitter/FriendFeed effect or just that there is a real news drought underway. Bitching at Gabe is pointless.
- Paul Montgomery
Paul -- I'm just sharing my point of view, and that is never pointless. That's the credo of blogging.
- Dave Winer
Paul, what Dave is pointing out is that exactly because of the news drought, at least some of the stuff that he put out while other didn't should have been there.
- Amit Morson
Paul, Dave's proposed among other things a Feedburner alternative. A 2 second check of his link profile refutes your entire comment. But I do agree with one point: bitching at Gabe is pointless. He won't hear, his heads to far up Arrrington's arse to notice
- Duncan Riley
Duncan: Are other bloggers picking up on any of the things Dave is writing? Bitter comments from slighted bloggers aside, TechMeme is algorithmic, even if Gabe selects stories manually as well. None of the blogs I've read have been linking to Scripting News lately, so I wouldn't expect Dave's blog to register as noteworthy by TM (no offense intended).
- John Zipp
John, have you been watching TechMeme -- they include quite a few posts that no one is pointing to. Just FYI. (And I could use some perjorative terms to describe you, but I won't -- just note that it's not generally a great thing to do to someone who's right here -- if you want non-flamey discourse.)
- Dave Winer
John, it's not exclusively algorithmic. It's a mixture of link profiles and hand picked links. And it weighs links depending on the source: I'm completely banned, and as I've proved in numbers before, it treats sites like Mashable poorly as well, as it is with Dave. Context: Loic LeMeur is on the leaderboard. Love Loic, but numbers and links vs Dave...do some homework
- Duncan Riley
They like Fred Wilson too, and inexplicably (ha) two posts from the TechMeme blog ranked highly as well, even though no one was pointing to them. And that's just from memory. If I were taking notes there would be lots more, but I'm working on other things.
- Dave Winer
Who cares? Techmeme is artificial and stupid. My RSS feeds are way better any day of the week.
- Andru Edwards
Good one, Mark. Doubt he's ever heard that one before.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Techmeme tried to be fully automatic but couldn't pull it off. The human intervention there however is partly motivated by ego and personal "issues".
- Amit Morson
Dave: telling someone to F off is usually pointless, and hardly constitutes a cogent point of view. I think I might have to (gasp!) blog about this issue to get my point across more intelligently.
- Paul Montgomery
You don't say. What was the first time?
- Dave Winer
I've got into minor squabbles on your blog comments. Plus there was some mailing list shenanigans, I seem to recall. Nothing too severe. It's all part of the rough and tumble, no hard feelings.
- Paul Montgomery
Cool. BTW, I meant to say that Gabe should fcuk off -- with lots of love! :-)
- Dave Winer
TechMeme is like Head-On. Love the product or is that I hate the product. Can never figure it out. But it makes me feel like shit, except when I'm number 1 then I feel great. Most often it makes me feel like shit. Give me a way to kill it and I'll go for it. I'll even put some money behind killing it. Not a lot, but some. And with that I bid you all a good night. :-)
- Dave Winer
Psst.. did you hear Techmeme shot JFK and sold nuclear secrets to the Terrorists? But seriously. Techmeme has an audience because it's useful. That audience happens to be bigger than the 5 people that complain about not getting linked. Gabe doesn't have to make Techmeme link to anyone.
- Nick Gonzalez