No doubt that guy had an alcoholic mother. - Dave Winer

Seems like a quite a leap Dave --is there logic? - Brian Sullivan

Is there a man-group to protest its blatant sexism. - Rex Hammock

Brian, just what I heard. This is a person who expects an explosion and is doing everything he can to contain it. See the fear on his face. Could be you see something else. Women do, for sure (I've heard women only hear an insult, saying he called her fat, but if you listen to the actual words, he never said it.) - Dave Winer

But these are actors with a script. Even if this were real it so seems like a conclusion based on no facts. - Brian Sullivan

It's an acceptable double standard. It's the same reason that 9/10 sitcoms feature a big, dumb husband and an all-knowing wife who's humoring him. If you reveresed that role, you'd have riots in the streets. - Bob M. Montgomery from twhirl

Bob, problem is that people emulate what they see on TV in real life relationships. Women wonder why they don't get the same response from real men that the women on TV get from the actors. If I were that guy, I might shut up, probably would, but I'd resent the hell out of it. - Dave Winer

Christopher -- finally some humor! I wish more people would project wildly on that ad. - Dave Winer

I think the ad is probably designed for women, a fantasy -- if only men were so pliable and easily manipulated. This is what women would like us to be like. Always wrong, and willing to suffer humiliation and apologize and STFU all in one sentence! - Dave Winer

Since there are no female voices in this conversation I'll add mine: Yes, the ad is "demeaning" to men, but it also makes women look unstable. I've never once accused my husband of calling me fat when he didn't outright say so. I hope I don't know any women who would bring that sort of unnecessary drama to their relationships. But these ads where women are going , "What's that supposed to mean?" give me a headache. Why can't people say what they say? - Anika

Peggy, I hate to say this (I'm laughing as I do) -- but you're saying I was wrong, which sort of reinforces my point. I think it might be interesting to, for 24 hours, make a point of never saying that a man is wrong about something, you might be surprised at how integral it is to the way women think about men. To be clear I did say you *might* be -- but then I'm like Steve in the commercial, saying the box told me to shut up. :-) - Dave Winer

Dave, I'll go 24 hours without saying a man is wrong if a man will do the same. As your comment goes to show, seeing the other gender as 'wrong' doesn't have anything to do with one being male or female. And to Bob: the current 'dumb husband' routine is a combination of pandering to women who control the purse strings and a paltry attempt at "making up for" 4 decades of TV where women "had some 'splanin' to do" every time they bought a new dress. - FFing Enigma

Tina, by wrong, I meant factually wrong; not wrong as in "he done me wrong." In English the word has at least two uses. - Dave Winer

One of my many charms is that I say obvious things in funny ways. I've found it helps me get what I want, it's a good strategy for success. :-) - Dave Winer

looks like the multi is actually corn. Real cheerios sound healthier and only have 100 calories. Yes there is less fat but not by much and only mono/poly. - mal

Methinks it's clever to create commercial controversy. - Phil Boiarski

The box should have said "Shut up Steve, first line Top left corner!" - Jigar Mehta

http://loopt.us/VSF2Zw - mal